Related
Hi all,
I know that the product is yet to have an official event for more in-depth look of the device, but when someone finds out exact specifications of the camera inside the phone, please share here. If it's around One X quality I would be fine with that.
Many thanks
so far it's known to be a Sony back side illuminated sensor at 8 mega pixel supporting HDR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66-4uMQqerA
6:18
Now that I know that HDR mode is there, all I'm hoping for now is a fast shutter speed/zero shutter lag. Having burst mode would be a nice bonus, haha.
Since the Galaxy Nexus already have all that, its safe to asume this one will have them too, some of that are just software implementation. It will also have a sphere (360) mode.
Sent from my R800x
Does the Galaxy Nexus also have burst mode?
Most of what has been mentioned is software, the actual specs of the sensor is as follows:
Sony 5 element BSI Sensor
Aperature: f/2.4
Receptor size: 1.1µm
Autofocus
vindikleuk said:
Does the Galaxy Nexus also have burst mode?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Erm, custom rom I believe, even my Samsung Vibrant have it.
Sent from my R800x
l0st.prophet said:
Most of what has been mentioned is software, the actual specs of the sensor is as follows:
Sony 5 element BSI Sensor
Aperature: f/2.4
Receptor size: 1.1µm
Autofocus
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If this is true that would be a nice upgrade from the galaxy nexus. Can you point to the source of this info? Too many smartphone reviewers just compare images as a whole, mostly comparing default exposure & saturation settings. Real camera comparisons should be more like digital camera reviews, looking at 100% sections for noise under low ISO and high ISO. Also whether the picture is sharp from corner to corner. Everything else is software magic.
Whyzor said:
Can you point to the source of this info? Real camera comparisons should be more like digital camera reviews, looking at 100% sections for noise under low ISO and high ISO Everything else is software magic.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 on this !
l0st.prophet said:
Most of what has been mentioned is software, the actual specs of the sensor is as follows:
Sony 5 element BSI Sensor
Aperature: f/2.4
Receptor size: 1.1µm
Autofocus
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I am only interested in hardware specs. Can you maybe share source of your information and also what is the 35mm equivalent focal length?
I don't expect amazing photos from a tiny sensor on a phone but I do expect progression and better image quality than ancient devices, considering that sony are the king of camera sensors.
But to my surprise the macros are ridiculously shocking on the xperia Z. Needs at least a foot of distance. Check the comparison below at equal distance.
What gives?
(left is Z, right is 4 year old viewty smart)
Turn off superior mode..
Sent from my C6603 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Yes,i'm with you.For short range photos(like macro) xperia z can't focus on item, and giving us blurry scenes.You need get back from that.
Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk now Free
Destroyedbeauty said:
Turn off superior mode..
Sent from my C6603 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On/off makes no difference. Only having flash off and holding it still long enough to semi focus automatically will take a legible photo.
The software is just so messed up. During the photo sequence, you can see it focusing reasonably well then it instead gives up and vomits out a blurry mess.
andyukking said:
On/off makes no difference. Only having flash off and holding it still long enough to semi focus automatically will take a legible photo.
The software is just so messed up. During the photo sequence, you can see it focusing reasonably well then it instead gives up and vomits out a blurry mess.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If the camera software is messed up, then tell me how I and so many others can get awesome macro shots?
Sent from my C6603 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Destroyedbeauty said:
If the camera software is messed up, then tell me how I and so many others can get awesome macro shots?
Sent from my C6603 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
proof is in the pudding. Lets see some macro shots from around 1.5" (which the viewty does easy).
The more I mess about with this camera, the more it annoys me. My screenshot of the camera app gives me better results than the photo itself.
Left is screenshot of the macro pre focused and ready to shot. Right is the end result.
andyukking said:
The more I mess about with this camera, the more it annoys me. My screenshot of the camera app gives me better results than the photo itself.
Left is screenshot of the macro pre focused and ready to shot. Right is the end result.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
set to manual mode, EV to -2.00. and slowly adjust the EV value to your preference.
You know EV is exposure, right?
andyukking said:
proof is in the pudding. Lets see some macro shots from around 1.5" (which the viewty does easy).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Check my photos (last post)..
Macro
Destroyedbeauty said:
Check my photos (last post)..
Macro
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I hear you. After further experimenting, it seems to be an issue with the flash. In good lighting with flash off, decent macros are possible. With the flash on its totally hopeless. Its strange because almost all other devices produce better macros with the flash/light. I remember how my old 2mp w810 could take great macros with the flash. It definitely seems like a software issue to me.
There are also occasions when the lighting is poor and it is therefore impossible to get a decent macro result.
Left (flash off), Right (flash on)
Just play around with manual settings
Don't know why some people complain about camera of Xperia Z. It is a PHONE, first of all, not a Digital Camera.
And the other hand's, if you adjust settings properly in MANUAL MODE you can get these results:
(I shoot pictures on different zoom, iso and metering levels as you see here; i had to resize them to upload here but the macro is its stock camera's job):
I find it satisfying from a phone. If somone wants better than these, BUY A CAMERA
If you take a close look on the last one, you can see even the number graved inside of the usb port of the charger. I just saw now, never before
laceex said:
Don't know why some people complain about camera of Xperia Z. It is a PHONE, first of all, not a Digital Camera.
And the other hand's, if you adjust settings properly in MANUAL MODE you can get these results:
(I shoot pictures on different zoom, iso and metering levels as you see here; i had to resize them to upload here but the macro is its stock camera's job):
I find it satisfying from a phone. If somone wants better than these, BUY A CAMERA
If you take a close look on the last one, you can see even the number graved inside of the usb port of the charger. I just saw now, never before
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am guessing that you are using digital zoom to get the last close up shot? I only want what my other devices can do. But the focussing is incredibly temperamental.
andyukking said:
I am guessing that you are using digital zoom to get the last close up shot? I only want what my other devices can do. But the focussing is incredibly temperamental.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The last 3 pictures are yes, with digital zoom. The first had no zoom at all. I changed only settings.
I used like this:
- ISO 100 or 200 (depends of your light conditions) or 400 (this also good in twilight conditions I think) if you don't use flash at all
- metering mode SPOT (or Centre if you have less light)
- focus SINGLE or TOUCH FOCUS
- White Balance; it is according to your light enviroment (I use always Cloudy or Incandescent)
- No HDR, No Image Stabiliser, and hold it steady
The distance between the lens and the charger was about 8-10 cm (maybe less).
(But you really can do good macros if you use 1-2x digital zoom)
Try it and let us know how it is. Post examples.
And do not forget, LG had XENON-flash. We don't know what could we get from XPERIA Z with a Xenon instead of LED...
Here's my results :laugh:
Left : Flash on
Right : Flash off
andyukking said:
I am guessing that you are using digital zoom to get the last close up shot? I only want what my other devices can do. But the focussing is incredibly temperamental.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ravdo said:
Here's my results :laugh:
Left : Flash on
Right : Flash off
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So now, are you satisfied with your XPERIA Z?
laceex said:
So now, are you satisfied with your XPERIA Z?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm satisfied from the moment I got it since March :victory:
ravdo said:
I'm satisfied from the moment I got it since March :victory:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am glad if it is so. Enjoy it so!!
I don't use digital zoom as its pointless and Lg just uses a normal LED flash.
You guys seem to be taking your pictures from further away than the macros that I am attempting to capture.
This demonstrates it:
The LG (Left) can capture at less than half the distance of the xperia Z
andyukking said:
I don't use digital zoom as its pointless and Lg just uses a normal LED flash.
You guys seem to be taking your pictures from further away than the macros that I am attempting to capture.
This demonstrates it:
The LG (Left) can capture at less than half the distance of the xperia Z
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do not understand why are you trying to take macros. But if you feel so, use the LG instead of Sony. I made what I could with it, it is macro enough for me. If I need more than this, I use my WX80 Cyber-shot. But you could sell LG and get a camera. Or get a K800 Sony but XPERIA Play has very good macro too Or you sell the XPERIA Z and buy all the above mentioned devices.
I am sorry but I don't think you should suffer with it this much.
(I still think this is software isue of Z's camera, because clearly can see sometimes it catching when focusing even from 3cm, therefor hope Sony will solve this problem soon)
Hey everyone.
Today I searched in store some kind of camera app with macro focus feature (too bad Sony Camera lacks this.)
So I came across Camera FV-5. Nice interface, but still a Sony UI fan. Anyway, besides the macro focus, under Settings I found the option to save pictures as .PNG.
I knew it has a better compression, almost lossless, compared to the common and easy-to-process .JPEG, so I took one photo outside (ISO 50, AutoFocus, a bit lowered exposure) and one indoor (without flash, yellow/orange 60W lightbulb as source of light in the room, same settings as above.)
I was pretty impressed by the quality. It takes some time to process the image fully, Album firstly doesn't even recognize the photo as existent. Afterwards, it takes ages to load the cache when double-tap zoom.
Anyway, see how nice, crisp and clear photos our phones can take - with absolute no post-editing.
Taken with Z3 Compact with Cyberian Camera MOD.
BTW, the files are huge. One is 21.7 MB and the other over 25. That means 1 pixel is over 1 byte. Cool.
OUTSIDE VIEW
INSIDE ENERGY BAR
Wow - that shot of the candy bar is VERY impressive. Too bad the file size is so ridiculously large. Can you show us the same picture taken using the Sony Superior Auto Mode (8MP)?
PuffDaddy_d said:
Can you show us the same picture taken using the Sony Superior Auto Mode (8MP)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've attached 8MP and 20 MP versions, Superior Auto Mode.
And thanks to Cyberian MOD, I'm lucky to have macro auto-scene on 20MP also.
Also, massive improvement in quality overall, the Z5 Camera libs really work great.
Now that I can see them side by side, it still appears that the Sony camera app reduces noise better than the 3rd party app. I had a similar experience in a comparison thread I created a while back as well.
Sent from the only flagship phone that actually fits in my hand... The Sony Xperia Z3 Compact
weekender90 said:
I've attached 8MP and 20 MP versions, Superior Auto Mode.
And thanks to Cyberian MOD, I'm lucky to have macro auto-scene on 20MP also.
Also, massive improvement in quality overall, the Z5 Camera libs really work great.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not bad for a macro shot. Here's mine using the Slim Rom i been using for couple of months.
I just used the sony camera with z5 camera libs, set to auto 8MP (4:3).
yoorie016 said:
Not bad for a macro shot. Here's mine using the Slim Rom i been using for couple of months.
I just used the sony camera with z5 camera libs, set to auto 8MP (4:3).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh my god, I'm in love with your photos...
Gonna flash this today and compare the results very strictly before and after flashing
romcio47 said:
Oh my god, I'm in love with your photos...
Gonna flash this today and compare the results very strictly before and after flashing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks I didn't make any tweaks, i just used the auto and set the aspect ration to 4:3.
here's another one, and saved on JPEG format.
Jep im using open camera and snap camera they also give simelar results. I dont know why sony gave such a bad stock camera the difference is huge
The sony camera takes better pictures now than my galaxy s6
jody2k said:
Jep im using open camera and snap camera they also give simelar results. I dont know why sony gave such a bad stock camera the difference is huge
The sony camera takes better pictures now than my galaxy s6
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So stock camera is now better?
doriandiaconu said:
So stock camera is now better?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No i mean with open camera or snap camera its waayy better than stock camera
jody2k said:
No i mean with open camera or snap camera its waayy better than stock camera
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What rom are you using?
Sent from my D5803 using XDA Free mobile app
jody2k said:
Jep im using open camera and snap camera they also give simelar results. I dont know why sony gave such a bad stock camera the difference is huge
The sony camera takes better pictures now than my galaxy s6
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a hard time agreeing with you. I tried to compare the stock camera software to various 3rd party software (including Open Camera) and the results indicated that Sony's produces better images:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/sonys-camera-isnt-worse-t3102790
All taken on Manual mode.
Full versions can be found here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/djlukew/
DjLukeW said:
All taken on Manual mode.
Full versions can be found here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/djlukew/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow, awesome shots man. Viewing these on my X and the quality is great!
Sent from my Sony F5121 using XDA Labs
Really good pics.
What setting are you set on manual mode?
ali_bobo said:
Really good pics.
What setting are you set on manual mode?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can't remember exactly but I think
8mp 16:9
Iso100 or 50
Multi metering
Object tracking off
Summer beer
Sunrise in St Ives.
Iso50
8mp
Exposure slider - 2
St Ives harbour
can somebody post some pictures with low light. i was thinking to keep my z3, but i'm beggining to like and thinking about buying the xperia x. The sunrise picture from djlukew looks like a difficult one for a camera and it looks amazing. Does this phone have the option to choose the exposure time btw? Thanks for your shares
Odesláno z mého telefonu Xperia Z2(D6503) root, xposed
Shot in auto mode.
great quality
Related question: Anyone else experience problems focusing with the sony camera app? Had to switch to Open Camera for it to work as I expected. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
Things I've tried to fix focus on sony camera app:
- Clear app data
- Tried manual and automode
- Disables object tracking
None really helped.
SONY XPERIA X 7.1.1. - Sony’s Concept for Android™
DjLukeW said:
All taken on Manual mode.
Full versions can be found here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/djlukew/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can u please upload a night photo with flash, on Nougat? I've a big issue with that. Greenish tint over the picture in night shot with flash. U find a post in other section. Thank you
Inviato dal mio iPhone utilizzando Tapatalk
https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-XZ-Premium-camera-for-smartphone-photography-enthusiasts
MOD EDIT: LINK REMOVED
furkan31 said:
https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-XZ-Premium-camera-for-smartphone-photography-enthusiasts
MOD EDIT: LINK REMOVED
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is crazy....xz do really better shoots than x performance.
djgigi94 said:
This is crazy....xz do really better shoots than x performance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i think the problem are the artifacts....too much visible is many conditions....hope sony will be solve, at least a little,with an update.... In the end the hardware (sensor i mean....300) it's the same of the previous generations...so...
herasymcuk said:
i think the problem are the artifacts....too much visible is many conditions....hope sony will be solve, at least a little,with an update.... In the end the hardware (sensor i mean....300) it's the same of the previous generations...so...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I see REAL photos of xz..i don't see that artifacts like xz of dxomark
djgigi94 said:
I see REAL photos of xz..i don't see that artifacts like xz of dxomark
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are artifacts
Anyway the only problem is on the software side... And Sony is not doing anything to solve it.
No hdr in auto mode? Poor post processing??
Why Sony why
Besides artifacts, great score.
---------- Post added at 01:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:38 PM ----------
100rabh7791 said:
There are artifacts
Anyway the only problem is on the software side... And Sony is not doing anything to solve it.
No hdr in auto mode? Poor post processing??
Why Sony why
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes HDR fires up in Auto, but it's an AUTO mode so it fires up automatically lol
doministry said:
Besides artifacts, great score.
---------- Post added at 01:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:38 PM ----------
Yes HDR fires up in Auto, but it's an AUTO mode so it fires up automatically lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But even in mid-range devices we have an option to keep it always on or in auto mode...
100rabh7791 said:
There are artifacts
Anyway the only problem is on the software side... And Sony is not doing anything to solve it.
No hdr in auto mode? Poor post processing??
Why Sony why
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The hdr there is in optimal situations . But try xperia xz...and tell me where are those artifacts in photos...there are more on x performance (but it have a greater score there). Stabilizzation same of x-performance? What the... the 5 axis stabilizzation do a greater stabilizzation than x-performance eis. Rgb sensor is usless in xz? More real colours on xz than x-performance. Focus the same of x-performance??? The laser autofocus is usless? NO. It's working better than hybrid focus of x,x-performance and z5 series, who have serious problems with macro photos (you must use zoom to do macro shoots). But x performance have 88 and xz 87.... This is crazy. I try both ...and xz have a very superior camera (expecially in auto) . The 3 sensors works great and xz do a really better night shoots than x-performance. On -performance you must be stable to do shoots or the photo became moved and noisy. On xz point and shoot! So...this camera review is absurd....
djgigi94 said:
The hdr there is in optimal situations . But try xperia xz...and tell me where are those artifacts in photos...there are more on x performance (but it have a greater score there). Stabilizzation same of x-performance? What the... the 5 axis stabilizzation do a greater stabilizzation than x-performance eis. Rgb sensor is usless in xz? More real colours on xz than x-performance. Focus the same of x-performance??? The laser autofocus is usless? NO. It's working better than hybrid focus of x,x-performance and z5 series, who have serious problems with macro photos (you must use zoom to do macro shoots). But x performance have 88 and xz 87.... This is crazy. I try both ...and xz have a very superior camera (expecially in auto) . The 3 sensors works great and xz do a really better night shoots than x-performance. On -performance you must be stable to do shoots or the photo became moved and noisy. On xz point and shoot! So...this camera review is absurd....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree it's a better camera thn x performance.... i think Google paid them to put pixel on top ..xz deserves more thn x performance
100rabh7791 said:
I agree it's a better camera thn x performance.... i think Google paid them to put pixel on top ..xz deserves more thn x performance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Probably there are some dirty things behind. But xz for me have the best camera of 2016 overall.
djgigi94 said:
Probably there are some dirty things behind. But xz for me have the best camera of 2016 overall.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I saw the comparison...Xz lacks in Dynamic range... I just hope Sony update their post processing...
furkan31 said:
https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-XZ-Premium-camera-for-smartphone-photography-enthusiasts
MOD EDIT: LINK REMOVED
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well before it was 90, idk why they changed the score, weird, well xz has the best natural camera software for me , better than Samsung (way to much oversaturated on ambled screen but in real viewing on pc or TV it's not good at all,)
Sent from my F8331 using XDA-Developers mobile app
dontbelive said:
Well before it was 90, idk why they changed the score, weird, well xz has the best natural camera software for me , better than Samsung (way to much oversaturated on ambled screen but in real viewing on pc or TV it's not good at all,)
Sent from my F8331 using XDA-Developers mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When was it 90%?
What a ****ty camera we have received from Sony. Thank you for the garbage you call superior 23mp camera
Verstuurd vanaf mijn F8331 met Tapatalk
I'm curious if the quality improves with respect to post processing artifacts when you use another camera app like opencamera or camera-fv5 or footej-camera ?
And if camera2api is actually available wouldn't the other apps take advantage of that?
I had a z3 before, and i always got better shots on camera-fv5. My xz is arriving this week, looking FWD to see how it compares with my OnePlus3 and Samsung s7edge
djgigi94 said:
Probably there are some dirty things behind. But xz for me have the best camera of 2016 overall.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When the results are in line with your rhetoric you praise DXOmark. When they are different you are sure they are rigged. Great logic !
Rear camera sucks indeed mostly because of weak dynamic range but front shooter works better. So I guess if you want to have good pics use front camera lol
pk-air said:
Rear camera sucks indeed mostly because of weak dynamic range but front shooter works better. So I guess if you want to have good pics use front camera lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Silliest post of 2016?
The rear camera is fantastic, just use some knowledge.
doministry said:
Silliest post of 2016?
The rear camera is fantastic, just use some knowledge.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Anything posted in 2016 is silly now. That is why I am just trolling here before this year is gone. Also use some knowledge and read what I said that camera sucks in dynamic range and not the quality of pictures
pk-air said:
Anything posted in 2016 is silly now. That is why I am just trolling here before this year is gone. Also use some knowledge and read what I said that camera sucks in dynamic range and not the quality of pictures
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Allright. I just think it essentially doesn't suck in dynamic range anyway...