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I don't expect amazing photos from a tiny sensor on a phone but I do expect progression and better image quality than ancient devices, considering that sony are the king of camera sensors.
But to my surprise the macros are ridiculously shocking on the xperia Z. Needs at least a foot of distance. Check the comparison below at equal distance.
What gives?
(left is Z, right is 4 year old viewty smart)
Turn off superior mode..
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Yes,i'm with you.For short range photos(like macro) xperia z can't focus on item, and giving us blurry scenes.You need get back from that.
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On/off makes no difference. Only having flash off and holding it still long enough to semi focus automatically will take a legible photo.
The software is just so messed up. During the photo sequence, you can see it focusing reasonably well then it instead gives up and vomits out a blurry mess.
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On/off makes no difference. Only having flash off and holding it still long enough to semi focus automatically will take a legible photo.
The software is just so messed up. During the photo sequence, you can see it focusing reasonably well then it instead gives up and vomits out a blurry mess.
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If the camera software is messed up, then tell me how I and so many others can get awesome macro shots?
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If the camera software is messed up, then tell me how I and so many others can get awesome macro shots?
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proof is in the pudding. Lets see some macro shots from around 1.5" (which the viewty does easy).
The more I mess about with this camera, the more it annoys me. My screenshot of the camera app gives me better results than the photo itself.
Left is screenshot of the macro pre focused and ready to shot. Right is the end result.
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The more I mess about with this camera, the more it annoys me. My screenshot of the camera app gives me better results than the photo itself.
Left is screenshot of the macro pre focused and ready to shot. Right is the end result.
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set to manual mode, EV to -2.00. and slowly adjust the EV value to your preference.
You know EV is exposure, right?
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proof is in the pudding. Lets see some macro shots from around 1.5" (which the viewty does easy).
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Check my photos (last post)..
Macro
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Check my photos (last post)..
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Yeah I hear you. After further experimenting, it seems to be an issue with the flash. In good lighting with flash off, decent macros are possible. With the flash on its totally hopeless. Its strange because almost all other devices produce better macros with the flash/light. I remember how my old 2mp w810 could take great macros with the flash. It definitely seems like a software issue to me.
There are also occasions when the lighting is poor and it is therefore impossible to get a decent macro result.
Left (flash off), Right (flash on)
Just play around with manual settings
Don't know why some people complain about camera of Xperia Z. It is a PHONE, first of all, not a Digital Camera.
And the other hand's, if you adjust settings properly in MANUAL MODE you can get these results:
(I shoot pictures on different zoom, iso and metering levels as you see here; i had to resize them to upload here but the macro is its stock camera's job):
I find it satisfying from a phone. If somone wants better than these, BUY A CAMERA
If you take a close look on the last one, you can see even the number graved inside of the usb port of the charger. I just saw now, never before
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Don't know why some people complain about camera of Xperia Z. It is a PHONE, first of all, not a Digital Camera.
And the other hand's, if you adjust settings properly in MANUAL MODE you can get these results:
(I shoot pictures on different zoom, iso and metering levels as you see here; i had to resize them to upload here but the macro is its stock camera's job):
I find it satisfying from a phone. If somone wants better than these, BUY A CAMERA
If you take a close look on the last one, you can see even the number graved inside of the usb port of the charger. I just saw now, never before
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I am guessing that you are using digital zoom to get the last close up shot? I only want what my other devices can do. But the focussing is incredibly temperamental.
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I am guessing that you are using digital zoom to get the last close up shot? I only want what my other devices can do. But the focussing is incredibly temperamental.
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The last 3 pictures are yes, with digital zoom. The first had no zoom at all. I changed only settings.
I used like this:
- ISO 100 or 200 (depends of your light conditions) or 400 (this also good in twilight conditions I think) if you don't use flash at all
- metering mode SPOT (or Centre if you have less light)
- focus SINGLE or TOUCH FOCUS
- White Balance; it is according to your light enviroment (I use always Cloudy or Incandescent)
- No HDR, No Image Stabiliser, and hold it steady
The distance between the lens and the charger was about 8-10 cm (maybe less).
(But you really can do good macros if you use 1-2x digital zoom)
Try it and let us know how it is. Post examples.
And do not forget, LG had XENON-flash. We don't know what could we get from XPERIA Z with a Xenon instead of LED...
Here's my results :laugh:
Left : Flash on
Right : Flash off
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I am guessing that you are using digital zoom to get the last close up shot? I only want what my other devices can do. But the focussing is incredibly temperamental.
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Here's my results :laugh:
Left : Flash on
Right : Flash off
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So now, are you satisfied with your XPERIA Z?
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So now, are you satisfied with your XPERIA Z?
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I'm satisfied from the moment I got it since March :victory:
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I'm satisfied from the moment I got it since March :victory:
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I am glad if it is so. Enjoy it so!!
I don't use digital zoom as its pointless and Lg just uses a normal LED flash.
You guys seem to be taking your pictures from further away than the macros that I am attempting to capture.
This demonstrates it:
The LG (Left) can capture at less than half the distance of the xperia Z
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I don't use digital zoom as its pointless and Lg just uses a normal LED flash.
You guys seem to be taking your pictures from further away than the macros that I am attempting to capture.
This demonstrates it:
The LG (Left) can capture at less than half the distance of the xperia Z
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I do not understand why are you trying to take macros. But if you feel so, use the LG instead of Sony. I made what I could with it, it is macro enough for me. If I need more than this, I use my WX80 Cyber-shot. But you could sell LG and get a camera. Or get a K800 Sony but XPERIA Play has very good macro too Or you sell the XPERIA Z and buy all the above mentioned devices.
I am sorry but I don't think you should suffer with it this much.
(I still think this is software isue of Z's camera, because clearly can see sometimes it catching when focusing even from 3cm, therefor hope Sony will solve this problem soon)
Hi. I have xperia sp.
It has the worst 8MP camera i'v ever seen.
images and videos are always grainy no matter what light conditions are.
every image has noise. its quality is equivalent to some 2MP shooter.
Is any one experiencing same issue? Is this software issue or hardware??
Please help me. after spending so much of money m not at all happy with the camera quality.... feeling cheated
xperia SP
Clean your camera lens first..
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absolutely true. worst camera considering the brand Sony. Micromax has better camera than SP. cleaning camera lens or cover does not improve anything.
I regret buying this phone. should have gone for ZR
I us this camera mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655322 on cm11 and it's nice.
Gesendet von meinem Xperia SP
Regretting buying a phone just because of crappy camera? And you feel cheated? It's not like Sony forced you to buy it and said its camera is excellent. In fact, all of the reviews say that the camera is bad and not good enough. Do some research before buying a phone. And don't expect wonders from a mid range with such high end specs
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No better pic. On the other ones are my family.
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For me it is not the worst. Stock 4.1.2. Superior auto mode. Indoor could be better though.
outdoor
indoor
my camera works just fine, you need to fine tune the settings
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Hi. I have xperia sp.
It has the worst 8MP camera i'v ever seen.
images and videos are always grainy no matter what light conditions are.
every image has noise. its quality is equivalent to some 2MP shooter.
Is any one experiencing same issue? Is this software issue or hardware??
Please help me. after spending so much of money m not at all happy with the camera quality.... feeling cheated
xperia SP
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Don't worry...!! All the Xperia SP got worst camera like you...!! It has worst camera than all other sony devices I've used till now..!!
sell your phone and buy new a phone
Okay i do not get all of ur complaints bout xperia SP's camera
The camera is pretty good, ya we cant compare to high end devices, but its still pretty good man
I was able to take perfectly clear pics of cells with this camera via a microscope, which i cudnt using a iphone 5
First 3 pics are from 4.1
Other 3 are from 4.3
I do not get how you can say its really bad :-/
Just try to take multiple pics, then delete all except best, or use burst
Low light is not as good
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honestly, the camera is fine, take it off superior auto and put it on manual and take a better pic, its not the camera its the photographer. now to prove this theory, please try and tell me what camera took this un-edited, un-filtered un modified pic
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honestly, the camera is fine, take it off superior auto and put it on manual and take a better pic, its not the camera its the photographer. now to prove this theory, please try and tell me what camera took this un-edited, un-filtered un modified pic
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okay there is no argue here
that picture is just... OMG XD
thanks brotha, feel free to use the pic if you wish
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Regretting buying a phone just because of crappy camera? And you feel cheated? It's not like Sony forced you to buy it and said its camera is excellent. In fact, all of the reviews say that the camera is bad and not good enough. Do some research before buying a phone. And don't expect wonders from a mid range with such high end specs
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i am saying this because i have compared pics taken by xperia sp and xperia L. (in auto mode and in manual mode with same settings.)
xperia L inspite of being cheaper than xperia sp has nice camera quality and much less noise whereas xperia sp always has noise which drastically reduces the quality as compared to xperia L (Which is cheaper 8MP shooter)
and i am saying it because sony is advertising xperia sp and xperia L both for 8 mp shooter with "Sony Exmor RS™ for mobile image sensor"
How the same sensor with same resolution can produce so much of noise on xperia sp
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i am saying this because i have compared pics taken by xperia sp and xperia L. (in auto mode and in manual mode with same settings.)
xperia L inspite of being cheaper than xperia sp has nice camera quality and much less noise whereas xperia sp always has noise which drastically reduces the quality as compared to xperia L (Which is cheaper 8MP shooter)
and i am saying it because sony is advertising xperia sp and xperia L both for 8 mp shooter with "Sony Exmor RS™ for mobile image sensor"
How the same sensor with same resolution can produce so much of noise on xperia sp
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Because they have to sell both.
L for camera
SP for GPU and illumination bar.
These are market tactics and every manufacturer does it. Dont say you dont know this. My desire x was a low/midranger, with excellent camera, but crappy everything else. every set is made to sell for 1 or two points, and flagships are made to cover all of the points. simple.
neXus PRIME said:
Because they have to sell both.
L for camera
SP for GPU and illumination bar.
These are market tactics and every manufacturer does it. Dont say you dont know this. My desire x was a low/midranger, with excellent camera, but crappy everything else. every set is made to sell for 1 or two points, and flagships are made to cover all of the points. simple.
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Can i use any specific custom ROM for xperia SP which will have a better camera than what stock ROM has.??
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Can i use any specific custom ROM for xperia SP which will have a better camera than what stock ROM has.??
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Changing ROM wont change camera result. however you can try some camera apps from play store. like camera mx and camera 360 etc...
Some focus issues are solved by using 3rd paarty apps. But still, nothing great or extraordinary. Its a decent camera, not a world-beater. you have to accept and live with the fact like all of us. cheers
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my camera works just fine, you need to fine tune the settings
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Do you have any settings to take a nice picture? Please share
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Do you have any settings to take a nice picture? Please share
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i change the settings after every pic but i will post what i generally do
First of all put the phone in manual mode auto is ok but not great
set the focus to single auto focus
put on image stabilizer
you should put the phone to take 5mp 16:9 photos not 8mp 4:3
when you are about to take the picture set the exposure so that the pic isnt too bright or too dark
set the white balance now and change it till the pic looks right
now you must click the camera shutter so it focuses the pic then after 1-2 seconds take the shot :good:
Hello to everyone,
I think our phone doesn't have a great camera, but the sensors doesn't apperas so bad...so can be it a sw problem?
Do you think it can be improve by a new sw?
Did someone found a solution?
thanks!:good:
I've had no problems with the camera. The quality is very, very good (the first 2 pics are from the rear camera, the 3rd is from the front cam)
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I rate camera very good as well.
You can use 4:3 mode instead of 16:9 and it provides slightly more pixel detail.
Good luck.
Haha nice pictures m8
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mighty_moose said:
I've had no problems with the camera. The quality is very, very good (the first 2 pics are from the rear camera, the 3rd is from the front cam)
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The picture of closeup of flower and bee is really amazing!
Sent From My Mate7...
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The picture of closeup of flower and bee is really amazing!
Sent From My Mate7...
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Thank you, lol. My husband tried to say that I used a digital camera for it, until I did another photo with him watching
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The camera is capable of some really nice quality shots. Example below
The camera is good, but the processing/software is not the best, using the app snapspeed you realize there is a lot more potential with the camera.
My biggest problem with the camera is it does not handle sunlight well, it will dim down the picture a sunny day will suddenly look like evening and darker instead... I do not have any solution for that..
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The camera is good, but the processing/software is not the best, using the app snapspeed you realize there is a lot more potential with the camera.
My biggest problem with the camera is it does not handle sunlight well, it will dim down the picture a sunny day will suddenly look like evening and darker instead... I do not have any solution for that..
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I've not yet experienced it dimming my photos. But I can agree that it could probably be better, but my whole point is that it is far from terrible
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Takes very good daytime shots
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Camera timer not working
Has anyone else seen this problem? It was working in the beginning but I think after root it stopped. It takes the photos immidiately without the timer.
I too can't find the "timer" ... Have set up the 3 seconds option, but when pressed the shutter, photo was taken immediately.
How to make a timer shot? Thanks.
Please can anyone help me ? I've frozen the stock camera and when i restored it it doesn't want to work. Can anyone give me the apk of the app camera ?
Thanks a lot.
Try the app perfectly clear it will bring your camera with life with HDR realistic mode.
how?
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how?
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buy the app
but download snapseed it will do well
I was impressed with the sharp focus and good detail but the images were dull. Simply turn up saturation and voila! Nice images. Does great close ups too. I really like being able to trigger it by saying "cheese" also.
What mode did you guys use?
I used HDR 4:3
Anyone have any lowlight shots , thinking of buying this...its kind if a biggie for me lol
As OP said, the camera hardware is pretty good, however the software can be improved.
I came from an iPhone 6 Plus to my HAM7, and I must say I very dearly miss optical stabilization. Color reproduction also leans to the dull side, but as previous posters have mentioned a few seconds' worth of tweaking in Snapseed will fix that problem.
Overall the camera is definitely not bad, and I adore the fact that you can get super close to the subject without losing focus (something I had to buy a macro lens for on my IP6). I just really, really wish it had OIS.
Our other thread became a 'device specific' review sticky, so wanted to share some lowlight pictures from Z3+, S6, & Z2 (in that order) here. All are taken in 'auto' mode. But feel free to include daylight pictures and other devices as well!
Photobucket Link
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony...mproved-rankings-for-latest-iteration/Ranking
Z3+ improved over Z3 there.
Wow thanks, so without heat problem which can be resolve after an update, it it pretty close for the perfect smartphone ?
No Ram problem, Waterproof, Good Sound, Stereo speaker, LDAC for future compatibles devices, Good pictures for the back and front camera, Good Battery Life. And the camera does't go out as S6 or IPhone 6, etc...
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How the mic for recording video in a concert ?
Is it possible to record loud environment ? As HTC ONE, IPhone 6 or the last Galaxy S6. Without use in option the mic STM10
Thanks
Find day pics from Z3+ Dual.
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More shots from Xperia Z3+ & Galaxy S6 (both in auto mode) . Keep your shots coming!
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Is it possible to record loud environment ? As HTC ONE, IPhone 6 or the last Galaxy S6. Without use in option the mic STM10
Thanks
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Didn't try to record video in loud environment just yet. Someone else probably can answer this ?
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This is in auto mode. Taken at 4:50 in the morning.
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asking said:
Find day pics from Z3+ Dual.
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Where did u buy yours?
cerobles1 said:
Where did u buy yours?
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Got it from Amazon.com!
I would like some full resolution samples from the front camera. In fact, I'm searching like crazy the exact resolution of the front camera all over the internet. How much does it's width and height measure? How many pixels?
It would be cool if you uploaded a screenshot with the camera app shwing the resolution settings to see the other resolutions supported.
Cambapo;61597748 It would be cool if you uploaded a screenshot with the camera app shwing the resolution settings to see the other resolutions supported.[/QUOTE said:
Front camera is 5mp. Attached are the screenshots you're looking for :good:
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Front camera is 5mp. Attached are the screenshots you're looking for :good:
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Gee thanks :'D. At last!
I'll be posting some shots tomorrow maybe comparing with my Z2 and QX30 beside the Z3+
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I'll be posting some shots tomorrow maybe comparing with my Z2 and QX30 beside the Z3+
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That would be awesome!
QX30 must be nice too.
I dont have the time for a full comparison today but will update this post with a comparison soon
Alright quick comparison with my Z2 - Z3+ and my QX30
There is of course no contest with the QX30 but I think the Z3+ produced a better pciture mostly because colours were better and light didn't affect it as much as on Z2
Full picture HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heYAgIsaPYY
Look at this.
doministry said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heYAgIsaPYY
Look at this.
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Its pretty much a tie throughout which should make all the nagging fanboys shut up. Both phones are excellent choices.
doministry said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heYAgIsaPYY
Look at this.
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S6 leader in camera color reproduction, but in the video practically no difference. Very glad for Sony. At first LDAC then it, finally they began to gratify
A couple of photos taken with my Z3+
Thanks
Hey everyone.
Today I searched in store some kind of camera app with macro focus feature (too bad Sony Camera lacks this.)
So I came across Camera FV-5. Nice interface, but still a Sony UI fan. Anyway, besides the macro focus, under Settings I found the option to save pictures as .PNG.
I knew it has a better compression, almost lossless, compared to the common and easy-to-process .JPEG, so I took one photo outside (ISO 50, AutoFocus, a bit lowered exposure) and one indoor (without flash, yellow/orange 60W lightbulb as source of light in the room, same settings as above.)
I was pretty impressed by the quality. It takes some time to process the image fully, Album firstly doesn't even recognize the photo as existent. Afterwards, it takes ages to load the cache when double-tap zoom.
Anyway, see how nice, crisp and clear photos our phones can take - with absolute no post-editing.
Taken with Z3 Compact with Cyberian Camera MOD.
BTW, the files are huge. One is 21.7 MB and the other over 25. That means 1 pixel is over 1 byte. Cool.
OUTSIDE VIEW
INSIDE ENERGY BAR
Wow - that shot of the candy bar is VERY impressive. Too bad the file size is so ridiculously large. Can you show us the same picture taken using the Sony Superior Auto Mode (8MP)?
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Can you show us the same picture taken using the Sony Superior Auto Mode (8MP)?
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I've attached 8MP and 20 MP versions, Superior Auto Mode.
And thanks to Cyberian MOD, I'm lucky to have macro auto-scene on 20MP also.
Also, massive improvement in quality overall, the Z5 Camera libs really work great.
Now that I can see them side by side, it still appears that the Sony camera app reduces noise better than the 3rd party app. I had a similar experience in a comparison thread I created a while back as well.
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weekender90 said:
I've attached 8MP and 20 MP versions, Superior Auto Mode.
And thanks to Cyberian MOD, I'm lucky to have macro auto-scene on 20MP also.
Also, massive improvement in quality overall, the Z5 Camera libs really work great.
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Not bad for a macro shot. Here's mine using the Slim Rom i been using for couple of months.
I just used the sony camera with z5 camera libs, set to auto 8MP (4:3).
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Not bad for a macro shot. Here's mine using the Slim Rom i been using for couple of months.
I just used the sony camera with z5 camera libs, set to auto 8MP (4:3).
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Oh my god, I'm in love with your photos...
Gonna flash this today and compare the results very strictly before and after flashing
romcio47 said:
Oh my god, I'm in love with your photos...
Gonna flash this today and compare the results very strictly before and after flashing
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Thanks I didn't make any tweaks, i just used the auto and set the aspect ration to 4:3.
here's another one, and saved on JPEG format.
Jep im using open camera and snap camera they also give simelar results. I dont know why sony gave such a bad stock camera the difference is huge
The sony camera takes better pictures now than my galaxy s6
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Jep im using open camera and snap camera they also give simelar results. I dont know why sony gave such a bad stock camera the difference is huge
The sony camera takes better pictures now than my galaxy s6
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So stock camera is now better?
doriandiaconu said:
So stock camera is now better?
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No i mean with open camera or snap camera its waayy better than stock camera
jody2k said:
No i mean with open camera or snap camera its waayy better than stock camera
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What rom are you using?
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jody2k said:
Jep im using open camera and snap camera they also give simelar results. I dont know why sony gave such a bad stock camera the difference is huge
The sony camera takes better pictures now than my galaxy s6
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I have a hard time agreeing with you. I tried to compare the stock camera software to various 3rd party software (including Open Camera) and the results indicated that Sony's produces better images:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/sonys-camera-isnt-worse-t3102790