Xperia X Compact Camera: RAW Support and Camera external lens in plastic or glass ? - Sony Xperia X Compact Questions & Answers

Hi @ all,
2 Important questions, related to 2 design flaw of previous compact phone (yes, i've own z1 compact, z3 compact, z5 compact):
1) Does the camera external lens is STILL made by plastic (blurred and scratched just after some days in all compact sony phones) or finally the decided to switch to glass as EVERY phone maker?
reference thread plastic lens z3 compact:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/help/bottleneck-camera-glass-plastic-camera-t2889060
reference thread plastic lens z5 compact:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/help/z5-compact-cover-include-camera-lens-t3235914
2) Does the camera support raw api? You can try just by installing "manual camera" from play store, and try to shot raw photo.
Thanks in advance,
WZ

Hi, straight answers:
1. seems no big difference from z3c and z5c, very likely plastic.
2. no raw support, confirmed by manual camera

thanks for info !
1) have u the iPhone and tested in some ways if it's plastic or glass?
2) have u tried to installare manual camera from the Store and check raw support?
thanks again!

Wing_Zero85 said:
thanks for info !
1) have u the iPhone and tested in some ways if it's plastic or glass?
2) have u tried to installare manual camera from the Store and check raw support?
thanks again!
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Hi, since I used to own the previous two incarnations of compact series and iPhone, I am pretty much sure that it is plastic again. In addition, I checked against the software you have mentioned.

qwsdert4 said:
Hi, since I used to own the previous two incarnations of compact series and iPhone, I am pretty much sure that it is plastic again. In addition, I checked against the software you have mentioned.
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Ok Thanks, so do you own the phone right?

Wing_Zero85 said:
Ok Thanks, so do you own the phone right?
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yup, have been using it for days

I was wondering if the recent Oreo update had brought camera2 api and raw support on X compact.
Someone who upgraded could check it please?

The protection of camera lenz is Glass indeed and there's also a comparison video between xc and X and it shows that xc is glass and x is plastic and very scratchable but let me say that is is not a very high quality glass, no it wont get blurry even after one year of usage its still very good but I could see some very tiny scratches if I look at it from some angles under direct light!

According to Camera2 probe app:
Model:F5321
Manufacturer:Sony
Build:8.0.0
SDK:26
SupportLevel:1
SupportLevel HR:Full
Manual exposure:1
Auto exposure:1
Auto exposure, always flash:1
Auto exposure, auto flash:1
Auto exposure, auto flash redeye:1
AF Lock:1
Manual focus:1
Auto focus:1
Auto focus macro:1
Auto focus continuous picture:1
Auto focus continuous video:1
Auto focus EDOF:0
Whitebalance off:1
Automatic whitebalance:1
WB: cloudy day:1
WB: day:1
WB: fluorescent:1
WB: incandescent:1
WB: shade:0
WB: twilight:0
WB: warm fluorescent:0
AWB Lock:1
RawCapture:0

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That was quite a detailed explanation u gave there..
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khanhtrinh said:
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