Yay I'm finally the first person to (almost?) break my Moto Z Force. *Facepalm* - Moto Z Force Questions & Answers

About an hour before writing this, I moved a cable off my desk which was also under my Force, and off goes the force back first onto the floor. Seems perfectly fine, using it just like normal, but after doing some things in the play store I decided to lock the phone with the power button, I pressed it. Aaaaand nothing.
Volume keys worked fine, everything else worked fine..why not the power button? Who knows. I tried restarting through adb hoping that was the issue and not the drop, didn't fix anything. So...I had possibly the dumbest solution possible. Lets replicate the drop and see what happens. Power button starts to work, but barely, you have to really press it hard to get it to work. Thought lets do it again. Now it's back to not working at all.
At this point I'm scared of dropping my phone any more because I don't want to break the entire thing, but I'm starting to get hopeless. One of the drops I tried to replicate it, it landed face first and cracked my screen protector. So I'm like screw it.
I cover the back camera of the phone with like 4 sheets of tissue and put it inside a PLESON TPU case, to cover the camera, and I just outright drop the thing from like 5 feet high, back first. Now the power button works perfectly again (What the ****?) All that was lost was a good screen protector...?
TL;DR don't drop your phone back first, your power button might become misaligned with...god knows what.

Thanks for the tip... and... Congrats

rejectedjs said:
About an hour before writing this, I moved a cable off my desk which was also under my Force, and off goes the force back first onto the floor. Seems perfectly fine, using it just like normal, but after doing some things in the play store I decided to lock the phone with the power button, I pressed it. Aaaaand nothing.
Volume keys worked fine, everything else worked fine..why not the power button? Who knows. I tried restarting through adb hoping that was the issue and not the drop, didn't fix anything. So...I had possibly the dumbest solution possible. Lets replicate the drop and see what happens. Power button starts to work, but barely, you have to really press it hard to get it to work. Thought lets do it again. Now it's back to not working at all.
At this point I'm scared of dropping my phone any more because I don't want to break the entire thing, but I'm starting to get hopeless. One of the drops I tried to replicate it, it landed face first and cracked my screen protector. So I'm like screw it.
I cover the back camera of the phone with like 4 sheets of tissue and put it inside a PLESON TPU case, to cover the camera, and I just outright drop the thing from like 5 feet high, back first. Now the power button works perfectly again (What the ****?) All that was lost was a good screen protector...?
TL;DR don't drop your phone back first, your power button might become misaligned with...god knows what.
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That's the craziest thing I have ever heard.... Something doesn't act right after accidently dropping the phone, so let's drop the phone many times on purpose and drop it from 5 feet..... Really???

This does remind me of a computer I was repairing ages ago. I got frustrated with trying to get data off of a clicking hard drive so I threw it on the cement floor. Worked perfectly after that. I think the head assembly was stuck or something lol.
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sericd2010 said:
That's the craziest thing I have ever heard.... Something doesn't act right after accidently dropping the phone, so let's drop the phone many times on purpose and drop it from 5 feet..... Really???
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Hey it worked didn't it? :good:

rejectedjs said:
Hey it worked didn't it? :good:
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You'd be surprised how much in the automotive industry is fixed by hitting something with a wrench and jiggling stuff. Everything mechanical likes to get stuck at some point or another

Hmmmm....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEkOT3IngMQ

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HD2 + spoiling beer

Dear forum members,
2 days ago i spilled some beer on my front pocket, exactly where my HD2 was located. It wasn't much, maybe one or two sips. The water damage seal is still white. I immediately grabbed my phone, pulled the battery out and put it in my other (clean) pocket. When I got home I immediately put my phone on top of the radiator (which i turned down a bit) A day later I turned my phone on again. Everything worked as normal, normal clear boot screen, the intro tune sounded ok, and it even vibrated. I was pretty relieved. The touchscreen works perfectly but only the phone turns the volume up all the time. I can't do anything with the phone because the volume is pernamently raising and thus going to the volume screen. Today I rinsed the volume buttons with demineralised water (very little and careful). The phone is currently drying in a sack of rice. Does someone have any ideas or suggestions how I can fix this issue?
Thanks in advance
EDIT: MY PHONE IS WORKING AGAIN! I just turned it on, the volume was still raising. I don't know why, but something told me i had to suck the "vaporised water" out of the phone. I used my mouth and sucked air out of the small openings of the phone. The phone immediately stopped raising the volume!
You should be able to find instructions for taking the phone apart somewhere around here... I've seen a thread about it I'm almost sure.
Apart from waiting and hoping I don't think you can do much else apart from trying to take it apart and see if there is anything that needs cleaning.

Power button dying

Coming across a problem with my DHD. The power button looks like its beginning to fail. I had it in my pocket and bits of sand and dust were getting into the edge around the power button and it got stuck. I got most of it out but its getting harder to press. Anyone else had this problem and maybe have a solution?
Ok its been a couple of days now and its pretty much useless now. The power button is constantly pushed in by whatever is stuck in there. I have to push it about 10 times to get it on or off. Going to take it to the store after work and tell them to replace it.
Seems like the Power button isn't. Pretty good. Mine is on the left side a bit higher than on the right since I bought it.
But I don't want a replacement, because the phone is sold out in Germany..
If it gives up its job, ill bring it to the store.
Please let me know what they say in the store
DN41
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Im in australia, vodafone said 2-3 weeks for them to send it off and get it back =/
Im going to take it apart and see if i can clean it out first before handing over to warranty.
Safwah said:
Im in australia, vodafone said 2-3 weeks for them to send it off and get it back =/
Im going to take it apart and see if i can clean it out first before handing over to warranty.
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Surely taking it apart would void your warranty?
I had a good look over what they would see as voiding warranty and theres just one lil sticker on top of a screw. Not even a security one, u just take it off and put back on.
I took it apart and fixed the problem anyway.
I've noticed my button has gotten tired as well. It seems like it has sunken down and feels harder to use.
I've downloaded an app called "tap tap app" which makes you able to turn on and off the screen by tapping on the sensor next to the speaker on top of the phone. Works pretty well and saves my powerbutton.
saves the powerbutton but drains battery faster
another question: your dhd is built together again?
i didnt find any teardown yet..some pics would be great...
DN41
My power button is fine, but it feels like my volume up button has sunken down since I removed the battery.
i had this but fixed mine by applying pressure on the button for a while and pushing it right in, try using a needle to remove any dirt or grain from it, if your in portsmouth sometime maybe i could fix it XD
Not a sollution, but you can disable the lock screen (i made it cause i really think it was pointless) and use an app to turn off your screen when needed...
I barely use the button, even with no problem with it...
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Its actually very easy to take the phone apart and back together again. And since doing so i fixed the problem. Im not sure if it was causing the problem or if it was something else, but once i had a look there was a flat piece of lpastic on the underside of the power button. It looked like it was supposed to be there but i took it off to give abit more clearance and that worked.
Id love to do a guide but my phone is my only camera. Ill see if i can borrow a friends. Or use an old phone.

volume button craziness (possibly water?)

Hey all,
So the other night at the pub, a friend spilled their water on the table, and my nexus 4 was in the path. It was quickly removed and pulled out of its case which seemed to have protected it and was working just fine. The next morning however, and the past few days, it's been acting perfectly fine except for it acting like the volume down button is being held down. The worst part is I can't get it to boot into regular mode, only safe mode because it thinks the button is being held down...
Could this have been the water? I tried a couple days in rice with no change. Any ideas for what I should try next? It makes me incredibly frustrated to think a perfectly good phone would go to waste just because the volume button is acting wonky (and I've tried mashing on it and making sure it's not stuck in or anything).
Thanks!
cj1171 said:
Hey all,
So the other night at the pub, a friend spilled their water on the table, and my nexus 4 was in the path. It was quickly removed and pulled out of its case which seemed to have protected it and was working just fine. The next morning however, and the past few days, it's been acting perfectly fine except for it acting like the volume down button is being held down. The worst part is I can't get it to boot into regular mode, only safe mode because it thinks the button is being held down...
Could this have been the water? I tried a couple days in rice with no change. Any ideas for what I should try next? It makes me incredibly frustrated to think a perfectly good phone would go to waste just because the volume button is acting wonky (and I've tried mashing on it and making sure it's not stuck in or anything).
Thanks!
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If was me id take it apart and inspect inside since happened after water spill.... Ud be surprised how fast corrosion can happen and could be causing your issues, may just need be cleaned inside (worth a try) . Quick google search will find u a youtube video on how to take apart
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If was me id take it apart and inspect inside since happened after water spill.... Ud be surprised how fast corrosion can happen and could be causing your issues, may just need be cleaned inside (worth a try) . Quick google search will find u a youtube video on how to take apart
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Cool, I'll give that a shot...too bad my tool set only goes down to a T6! Gotta get a T5 and some proper rubbing alcohol. Fingers crossed!
So, no luck trying to clean it with alcohol. The button is still acting as if it is being held down.
...what do I do with the phone now?

[Q] Power Button Issues :( lol

Hi, I just bought a new phone, yes, i guess you know what it is.
G900H (damn...) I wanted F version.
Well, Everything worked nicely, then I tried water, apps, anything, the phone worked.
BUT something happened, power button didnt work, sometimes it did sometimes it didnt... Then I restarted, a LOT, pulling battery etc, It booted itselft btw. Then I deleted apps, etc. Somehow, after 30+ restarts, it worked! phone worked normally, i was like, WTH.
then after 2 or 3 months, now...
Today I washed the phone, everything closed, it looks like after that, the phone's power button doesnt WORK... (every other button worked fine, all operations up to date. nothing bad)
I went to recovery.. power button didnt work. volume, home did work.
I asked myself, did I screw up the power button? then should I wait for the phone to dry out? WTH. This thing worked for so many times, NOW it doesnt...wat do i do..
DOWNLOAD MODE
once in download mode, volume + to go volume - to restart phone.
I couldnt CLICK any option.WTH
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH MY PHONEEEE
yes, warranty is void
anyone happened the same?
fenchai said:
should I wait for the phone to dry out? WTH.
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WTH indeed. Should you wait for the phone to dry out? Seriously? Electricity and water.
You shouldn't be washing a phone. Carefully wipe it with a damp cloth perhaps. And yes wait for it to dry. If you are lucky, it will be okay after it dries, although it sounds like you have a physically damaged button.
You could try reverting to 100% stock to rule out software issues. The only proper fix for physical damage is to replace the power button. The part is dirt cheap, but the labour to disasemble yourphone and install it could be quite expensive.
A possible workaround would be an app that remaps the button elsewhere. That won't work to power on the device, but may help for routine operation once it's already on. Should your power button completely fail, you can use an USB JTAG adapter to turn your phone on.
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fffft said:
WTH indeed. Should you wait for the phone to dry out? Seriously? Electricity and water.
You shouldn't be washing a phone. Carefully wipe it with a damp cloth perhaps. And yes wait for it to dry. If you are lucky, it will be okay after it dries, although it sounds like you have a physically damaged button.
You could try reverting to 100% stock to rule out software issues. The only proper fix for physical damage is to replace the power button. The part is dirt cheap, but the labour to disasemble yourphone and install it could be quite expensive.
A possible workaround would be an app that remaps the button elsewhere. That won't work to power on the device, but may help for routine operation once it's already on. Should your power button completely fail, you can use an USB JTAG adapter to turn your phone on.
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Hi bud,
thanks for replying,
I got so scared, but it looks like now everything works, I put the phone to charging, the button looks perfect, y clicks and everything.. i dont see how it is damaged T.T
Maybe water entered somewhere? Damn u samsung, water proof THaT.
After charging a bit, I was stuck in recovey, I tried pressing power button . IT Worked! then it didnt, I had a few self reboots but everything is fine now.
So I guess I had to dry it. How? I cant know, the phone seems dry to me. Maybe theres a small hole where water could enter in power button?
let me see your opinions.
Sent from my SM-G900H
fenchai said:
the button looks perfect, y clicks and everything.. i dont see how it is damaged
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Looks perfect, clicks and everything. But doesn't work reliably. And you can't imagine how it could be damaged? I would have thought the erratic operation to be a clue.
fenchai said:
Damn u samsung, water proof THaT.
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Show us where Samsung ever wrote that the phone is waterproof. It's water resistant, which means that it will probably save you from permanent damage if it gets accidentally wet. A splash, rain, a one time drop into shallow water. But tempting fate by routinely exposing it to water; washing it or taking it along when snorkeling would be imprudent.
It's unclear from your last post if the button is now working properly or not. If it is, great. If not, you will find some suggestions in my previous post. Good luck.
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fffft said:
Looks perfect, clicks and everything. But doesn't work reliably. And you can't imagine how it could be damaged? I would have thought the erratic operation to be a clue.
Show us where Samsung ever wrote that the phone is waterproof. It's water resistant, which means that it will probably save you from permanent damage if it gets accidentally wet. A splash, rain, a one time drop into shallow water. But tempting fate by routinely exposing it to water; washing it or taking it along when snorkeling would be imprudent.
It's unclear from your last post if the button is now working properly or not. If it is, great. If not, you will find some suggestions in my previous post. Good luck.
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yes, it is working properly now may have been because of water damage. thanks
Sent from my SM-G900H

Random screen presses and back button presses?

Hi,
A while ago my S7 Edge had some strange behaviour. I think I posted a forum when I had the problem, but suddenly the phone was working normal again... Until now. (5 months later)
When I'm watching youtube video's it's like I'm continius pressing the screen to show the pause/play button and title of the video. But I aint touching that screen?!
Also the back button keeps pressing itself. It's so anoying... I disabled the capacitive buttons in the generic.kl file, so they don't work in android. This took me like 20mins to do, because I kept going bck to the home screen...
When I layed in bed, I saw that the back button was slightly lit up. Just a little bit. I freaked out, because I have the backlight of the keys turned off!
Is it possible that there got water inside the phone? The only water this phone has seen is the shower.
Does someone have a clue what this problem is?
Thanks!
Hmm it looks like a screen problem to me.. doubt is the water since i i always use my phone under water...have you tried a factory reset? Are runing a custom rom?
nickxofficial said:
Hi,
A while ago my S7 Edge had some strange behaviour. I think I posted a forum when I had the problem, but suddenly the phone was working normal again... Until now. (5 months later)
When I'm watching youtube video's it's like I'm continius pressing the screen to show the pause/play button and title of the video. But I aint touching that screen?!
Also the back button keeps pressing itself. It's so anoying... I disabled the capacitive buttons in the generic.kl file, so they don't work in android. This took me like 20mins to do, because I kept going bck to the home screen...
When I layed in bed, I saw that the back button was slightly lit up. Just a little bit. I freaked out, because I have the backlight of the keys turned off!
Is it possible that there got water inside the phone? The only water this phone has seen is the shower.
Does someone have a clue what this problem is?
Thanks!
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I have the same problem if I understand correctly. When I download something from Google play then the phone get black screen and the button lights are on. But can't open the screen. It stucks.. don't know why.
raz_il_dio said:
Hmm it looks like a screen problem to me.. doubt is the water since i i always use my phone under water...have you tried a factory reset? Are runing a custom rom?
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Yeah, I'm running the latest version of supermanrom. Factory reset doesn't help at all...
StonebridgeGr said:
I have the same problem if I understand correctly. When I download something from Google play then the phone get black screen and the button lights are on. But can't open the screen. It stucks.. don't know why.
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My screen works perfectly, no black screen. Only the youtube thing that bugging
nickxofficial said:
My screen works perfectly, no black screen. Only the youtube thing that bugging
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Have you tried to back to stock nougat or mm?
StonebridgeGr said:
Have you tried to back to stock nougat or mm?
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It's also present in the recovery (twrp latest), that makes it really hard to flash roms when the back button is pressed continously..
But I didn't try that yet, I switched between a couole roms and the problem is still present.
nickxofficial said:
It's also present in the recovery (twrp latest), that makes it really hard to flash roms when the back button is pressed continously..
But I didn't try that yet, I switched between a couole roms and the problem is still present.
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Then it must be water on the button like the other guy said.. go to YouTube and find a video that help you to open the back side of your phone and do it with a dryer . I don't know the word .. the thing that we do on our hairs after the bath you know ;p
The issue is most certainly because of water damage. Most of the time if water comes into an S7/Edge it starts messing up with the cap keys, had those somptoms one, and also other people, but for me it was just 1 time after a pool bath with my phone, and it went away after maybe 1h. Now I am carefully when making the phone wet and I get it near water just to clean it, but not for fun anymore.
StonebridgeGr said:
Then it must be water on the button like the other guy said.. go to YouTube and find a video that help you to open the back side of your phone and do it with a dryer . I don't know the word .. the thing that we do on our hairs after the bath you know ;p
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With a hair dryer you mean?
Thanks for the advice!
arnes_king said:
The issue is most certainly because of water damage. Most of the time if water comes into an S7/Edge it starts messing up with the cap keys, had those somptoms one, and also other people, but for me it was just 1 time after a pool bath with my phone, and it went away after maybe 1h. Now I am carefully when making the phone wet and I get it near water just to clean it, but not for fun anymore.
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That's just stupid.. Samsung claims it's waterproof, so the shower mustn't be a problem, right..
I just spotted like realy tiny like bubbles or something on the back button, it looks like water indeed... **** me.
I think i'm remove the sim tray and put the phone in a rice bag for a couple days. If the problem doesn't go away, then I'll open up the back (breaking the waterproof seal ) and dry it up. Wish me luck..
arnes_king said:
The issue is most certainly because of water damage. Most of the time if water comes into an S7/Edge it starts messing up with the cap keys, had those somptoms one, and also other people, but for me it was just 1 time after a pool bath with my phone, and it went away after maybe 1h. Now I am carefully when making the phone wet and I get it near water just to clean it, but not for fun anymore.
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I thought it was waterproof
StonebridgeGr said:
I thought it was waterproof
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It is water resistant, which means that it is still possible to get water inside/water damage.
i'm also having a strange issue with the phone after some upgrades. my phone will freeze at times and nothing will restore this unless i use the back button and the phone works. It doesnt happen all the time but only at times. Its like its in pause mode and only back button fixes this.

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