Hello all! Just Inquiring to the geniuses that float around on this site about working to help bring root to this device. I have all the standard things (wired connection to PC, adb access, etc.). Just wondering if anyone needed any extra help or if they need someone to test methods out.
Before I get flamed, I DO know the risks of running commands incorrectly, and running them not knowing if it will work, not work or brick the device.
Currently looking into the mod interface as well. (Might be useful)
unless I understand incorrectly the biggest issue isn't root itself but the needed boot.img that requires an unlocked bootloader because if Android 6.
I'm going to inquire with Moto and see if they would be so gracious enough to unlock my bootloader since the option is there in dev settings. I know this might be a lost cause but maybe if I can get that done, and upload any stock images for people to tinker around with, do you believe it would help the dev community find an exploit?
WestTexasCoder said:
I'm going to inquire with Moto and see if they would be so gracious enough to unlock my bootloader since the option is there in dev settings. I know this might be a lost cause but maybe if I can get that done, and upload any stock images for people to tinker around with, do you believe it would help the dev community find an exploit?
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Will not happen. Verizon won't let them. Just wait for the unlocked version to come out and a dev to get that.
Question: when the unlocked version comes out, that won't matter to us stuck using big red's version, will it?
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Question: when the unlocked version comes out, that won't matter to us stuck using big red's version, will it?
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Dont know. It could or it might not. It could lead to the finding of an exploit that we can use. When that comes out we have better odds. Heck we might just be able to do a simple flash and flash some verizon stuff....Prob not knowing verizon but it could happen. My advice is not to update until we see how the unlocked versions development is going. But as of right now no one is working on this phone.
Good odds tho. Unlocked comes out and people start working on it to unlock even more stuff for more mod development we might get lucky and get some trickle down exploits that will free us.
But knowing verizon i bet they have something in the works to force people to update. Because they are shady like that. Oh here is a new moto mod. And its only $20 and will add like wireless charging and a second sd card slot....but it wont work unless you use this software update. And oh by the way it fixes that exploit. I could see them doing something like that. Using a cheap mod that would be awesome like a mod that gives wireless charging and a second micro sd card slot to force us to update to use it and patch a exploit.
Great phone only phone i have ever had that i did not require root and a bootloader unlock. Hell its the only phone i will use stock...Well i use nova launcher but not to speed it up. Just to block the verizon bloatware from my app list. God i cant wait for them to load down the phones with all the yahoo bloat now. My god help us next year.
yahoo maps
yahoo messenger
yahoo news
yahoo search
Just to name a few of the crap they will load down. Get a 32gig phone. 5gigs of it will be verizon and yahoo apps you will never use that cant be uninstalled.
If our project was only gaining root access, then the Verizon Moto Z / Z Force currently has vulnerabilities listed under quadrooter.
http://blog.checkpoint.com/2016/08/07/quadrooter/
The international version does come out soon and hopefully we can get some progress on the bootloader!
As far as gaining root access, if I knew how to code we would already have it since every Moto Z / Z Force has 3 of the quadrooter vulnerabilities. If you want screenshots of which ones and their details let me know :3
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As far as gaining root access, if I knew how to code we would already have it since every Moto Z / Z Force has 3 of the quadrooter vulnerabilities.
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That's a bold statement...
Do you have a development background? I wasn't sure from your first post and your last one.
Not well enough to attempt any of these vulnerabilities on my own. Each of the three vulnerabilities allows users to access root privilege on the device without the device being rooted.
I'll put the three vulnerabilities here.
1. https://www.codeaurora.org/invalid-path-check-ashmem-memory-file-cve-2016-5340.
2 and 3. https://www.codeaurora.org/use-afte...tions-kgsl-module-cve-2016-2504-cve-2016-2503
2 and 3 both are very similar, hence the reason for one URL.
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Been messing around with my development kit. Good chance of a bootloader unlock and root with this. Bad news is its going to be over $125 for you to get the dev kit. But I think I might be on to something. Won't go into details on here because we all know Verizon watches for stuff like this.
Still gathering more info before I test anything since this is my daily driver. I'll start work when I get my back up phone.
Method will require a dev kit and a PC. So it's not going to be something you can just plug into your PC
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Been messing around with my development kit. Good chance of a bootloader unlock and root with this. Bad news is its going to be over $125 for you to get the dev kit. But I think I might be on to something. Won't go into details on here because we all know Verizon watches for stuff like this.
Still gathering more info before I test anything since this is my daily driver. I'll start work when I get my back up phone.
Method will require a dev kit and a PC. So it's not going to be something you can just plug into your PC
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This sounds very promising! I've been doing a bit of research and I have a much broader understanding of how gaining root access is accomplished, but not necessarily the bootloader.
I can save up some money and grab a dev kit as well if you want another set of hands on this.
If you need my email let me know, but i've been messing around with some of the exploits and once i get back home (hooray for IT job) i'm going to try out the system-less root, then go from there.
Good findings, and I believe you're on the right track! I read up on what the mods can access and control on the Android system and I'm actually impressed by what it can access and do. Heck, maybe we can even get a script going to utilize most moto mods to allow access to certain areas that we need, aside from the extra battery. I doubt that one will allow any kind of unintended access to areas of the phone. :silly:
If I can grab any kind of root access, would images be helpful to the much smarter people here?
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This sounds very promising! I've been doing a bit of research and I have a much broader understanding of how gaining root access is accomplished, but not necessarily the bootloader.
I can save up some money and grab a dev kit as well if you want another set of hands on this.
If you need my email let me know, but i've been messing around with some of the exploits and once i get back home (hooray for IT job) i'm going to try out the system-less root, then go from there.
Good findings, and I believe you're on the right track! I read up on what the mods can access and control on the Android system and I'm actually impressed by what it can access and do. Heck, maybe we can even get a script going to utilize most moto mods to allow access to certain areas that we need, aside from the extra battery. I doubt that one will allow any kind of unintended access to areas of the phone. :silly:
If I can grab any kind of root access, would images be helpful to the much smarter people here?
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I figured the system for the mods would be the easiest way in. Working on a mod with my dev kit after that I'm going to start messing around more with seeing what I can do. There has to be something in here. First phone to use them first version of moto mods. There is somthing
Good chance root may happen tonight. Meet more work on it. But it won't be something everyone can do. Will require aoto mod dev kit and a fair amount of work. But if I can get it working tonight there seems to be some hope.
in4updates. Great work and keep it up! Only reason I want root is for new emojis haha. I will most likely unroot once 7.0 releases (assuming we get root before we get 7.0)
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Good chance root may happen tonight. Meet more work on it. But it won't be something everyone can do. Will require aoto mod dev kit and a fair amount of work. But if I can get it working tonight there seems to be some hope.
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Please don't break my heart.
Me either.. just got moto z force today ..Will speaker ,projector,battery wireless mod ..and a couple backs...But boy root and Roms would be a bonus...
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Nevermind project scrapped.
bignazpwns said:
The method i used 99% of the people here will not be able to do. Requires a moto mod dev kit and some other stuff. I'll work on getting the getting the bootloader from the non Verizon version on it when i get it. As of right now im back to working on my Moto mod so it will be a week or two before i go back to this.
Progress will be very slow. This is my only phone i sold my 6p so i cant do anything to risky on this. I got some ideas on working out a cheaper version. Drop the price of hardware needed from $200+ to $80.
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this photo looks shopped, poorly as well
bignazpwns said:
Been messing around with my development kit. Good chance of a bootloader unlock and root with this. Bad news is its going to be over $125 for you to get the dev kit. But I think I might be on to something. Won't go into details on here because we all know Verizon watches for stuff like this.
Still gathering more info before I test anything since this is my daily driver. I'll start work when I get my back up phone.
Method will require a dev kit and a PC. So it's not going to be something you can just plug into your PC
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Where can I get my hands on this kit?
bignazpwns said:
Nevermind project scrapped.
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lol why? because you got caught?
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Here are pictures of my AT&T Xperia Play! I met up with a guy from Fremont CA and he wanted a iphone 4 + cash on top. Where he got it he couldn't say but so far it's unreleased on the AT&T network. When I connect it to my pc, it has a system update for it already but i'm kinda hesitant to do so until it's officially released to the public.
In one picture it shows "EDGE" for the network on the home screen but I guarantee this is no R800i model or some photoshop BS. It connects to H+ once I get out of my house. I just made some quick pictures of the AT&T built in apps and phone properties in the settings.
YES the phone has AT&Ts lock for sideloading apps. I'm trying to get this to connect to my pc with Android Injector but the program doesn't recognize the phone for some reason even when the sony software suite the phone installs onto my Win7 PC.
I'm new to this forum and don't have 8posts to put yet so if any senior members would like to repost the pictures please do! Lemme know if there is any other pics needed. Sorry for the dark one, I snapped that one before I went to sleep in poor lighting.
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how come AT&T get android 2.3.3 and we get 2.3.2?
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Here are pictures of my AT&T Xperia Play! I met up with a guy from Fremont CA and he wanted a iphone 4 + cash on top. Where he got it he couldn't say but so far it's unreleased on the AT&T network. When I connect it to my pc, it has a system update for it already but i'm kinda hesitant to do so until it's officially released to the public.
In one picture it shows "EDGE" for the network on the home screen but I guarantee this is no R800i model or some photoshop BS. It connects to H+ once I get out of my house. I just made some quick pictures of the AT&T built in apps and phone properties in the settings.
YES the phone has AT&Ts lock for sideloading apps. I'm trying to get this to connect to my pc with Android Injector but the program doesn't recognize the phone for some reason even when the sony software suite the phone installs onto my Win7 PC.
I'm new to this forum and don't have 8posts to put yet so if any senior members would like to repost the pictures please do! Lemme know if there is any other pics needed. Sorry for the dark one, I snapped that one before I went to sleep in poor lighting.
h t t p://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c42/warudakumi/XPAPRIL%202011
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Was the Sony software suite you mentioned the PC Companion? And have you tried installing ADB? That's what I used for sideloading apps onto my Motorola Backflip.
I would recommend checking out these topics:
[HOW-TO] ADB for Dummies(How-To Learner's Guide)
[GUIDE] ADB, Fastboot, and Nandroid for Noobs
[ADB Setup] Motorola Backflip (This is what I used and it might be similar for the Xperia Play.)
Did you try to fastboot into it? :3
Thanks guys for the tips! I may try ADB this weekend. Nope I didn't try to fastboot it but I also haven't tried rooting the phone yet either. I've just ordered some generic cases off e-bay because the OE plastic protective film is starting to come off the front and back. As a temporary fix I'm using a Japanese X10 screen film and stretched a blackberry storm rubber case over it. Functional yes...but playable function no but i'm not trying to scratch the phone up with one little mistake.
Yup it's the PC Companion software and it has AT&Ts glove logo in the upper left. As soon as I plug the phone in, it says there is an update for the phone. This being a unreleased AT&T test phone, im kinda scared to try it at the moment because I'm unsure what it's going to do. Baseband update? UI fixes? The Xperia Home does however crash sometimes when doing a cold boot and I have to force close before it loads normally. Coming from an iphone 2G-4, i've been pretty good as far as not updating too often. I don't think AT&T would be like Apple remotely kill the phone like they did the iphone 4 but who knows.
Do any of you have a R800 i or a model and got asked to update via the companion on day one upon release?
I promise to have more better pix this weekend. Just busy with work at the moment.
Does it have Timescape or other Sony specific bloatware installed? What about brightness? Is it adjustable or no? The Verizon edition is supposedly vanilla android with a few VZ apps. Wondering if the AT&T model is the same. Does it have a code number like R800at anywhere?
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Does it have Timescape or other Sony specific bloatware installed? What about brightness? Is it adjustable or no? The Verizon edition is supposedly vanilla android with a few VZ apps. Wondering if the AT&T model is the same. Does it have a code number like R800at anywhere?
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I read a few posts already claiming that the verizon model will be vanilla android... but who said that? did someone saw the phone already?
do we have a source?
i dont understand why Sony Ericsson will let Verizon to remove all their soft, and then SE giving Verizon the exclusive for the US... to be honest, i dont think so, otherwise i wouldnt mind to give you any exclusive, and you will have to sell it like all the rest of phone companies at launch time....
just my 2 cents...
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I read a few posts already claiming that the verizon model will be vanilla android... but who said that? did someone saw the phone already?
do we have a source?
i dont understand why Sony Ericsson will let Verizon to remove all their soft, and then SE giving Verizon the exclusive for the US... to be honest, i dont think so, otherwise i wouldnt mind to give you any exclusive, and you will have to sell it like all the rest of phone companies at launch time....
just my 2 cents...
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Well on GDC they were showing off the Verizon version of the phone and it had vanilla android. They even said it will come with vanilla android on launch.
They mentioned it at CTIA too...
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/03/21/handson-verizons-sony-ericsson-xperia-play-ctia-2011/
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how come AT&T get android 2.3.3 and we get 2.3.2?
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I have no clue on this but I'm wondering if this has anything to do with The PC Companion software never completing. I bit the bullet and tried to update the phone to see what would happen. The phone software update always fails no matter what as if it can't find the necessary components on Sonys servers.
The other two programs did install on my pc however: File browser and MediaGo and let me say Wow Media Go totally looks like a re-skinned iTunes! Anybody making the transition from iphone to xperia shouldn't have any issues.
Pictures will come later
Hmm... MediaGo Store isn't working....
This morning I fastloaded my Xperia Play and now the bootloader is unlocked. One thing I'm itching to do is use the R800i root method. Do you guys think this will be compatible with my play?? My build number is different.
(PS) couple of more posts and i'll be good to go to upload pix finally
After unlocking my bootloader on my Xperia Play I noticed the AT&T Logo doesn't show up anymore when I connect the phone? Does that mean the warranty is voided now? One thing it never did was finish updating the phone software. It would always get 75% of the way and get an error. This is what it looks like before and after on the Companion Screen.
PS Updated photos on 1st page.
^ Greatest Neogeo fighter in that series....3,4,5,6 were totally unbalanced!
Warudakumi said:
This morning I fastloaded my Xperia Play and now the bootloader is unlocked. One thing I'm itching to do is use the R800i root method. Do you guys think this will be compatible with my play?? My build number is different.
(PS) couple of more posts and i'll be good to go to upload pix finally
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Wow! I didn't think that Sony Ericsson would have unlocked the bootloader of a R800at version considering that those will most likely be locked to AT&T. Perhaps SE will sell some unlocked in the US through Sony Style or something like that?
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Does it still ask you to update after you unlocked it? And if so, does it complete now? And does it still have the AT&T splash screen when booting, or did that go away too?
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Wow! I didn't think that Sony Ericsson would have unlocked the bootloader of a R800at version considering that those will most likely be locked to AT&T. Perhaps SE will sell some unlocked in the US through Sony Style or something like that?
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Does it still ask you to update after you unlocked it? And if so, does it complete now? And does it still have the AT&T splash screen when booting, or did that go away too?
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When I unlocked the bootloader the Splash logo still remains but however it still doesn't update in the PC Companion. I'm wondering if because it's a "test unit"if this is the reason? It's already on 2.3.3 while I think others mentioned theirs is on 2.2.2??? Maybe the software is trying to update to 2.3.3 but realizes it's already updated? I don't know. However the phone is kinda buggy... If I do a cold boot, the phone always crashes the home launcher even on a fresh system cleanup. I really want to root this phone but I don't want to brick my unit trying the R800i method.
I still can't sideload for some reason. I tried Android Injector and Android Side Wonder Machine. The SDK can detect the phone but A.S.W.M doesn't for some odd reason?
I want to root so I can edit the adata folder and hex edit the manufacturer settings file and turn on "unknown sources to true" I hate having to sideload but at this point I can't even if I wanted to. I want to sideload my n64oid and psx4android but those aren't in the market place anymore.
This is a picture of a harsh crash that occured while attempting to run a PSX game in FPSe.
Any luck getting ADB to work? I've never used either of those side-loading programs, but ADB always worked with my Backflip. Eventually I used Z4 to root it, but I don't know if that'll work on the Play.
Finally Rooted! Gingerbreak
Well I bit the bullet and tried Gingerbreak 1.2 and it succesfuly rooted my
R800at! Scary thing tho was the fact that it took approximately 13-min to do. The phones SD card was mounted but the phone was doing something funky with the SD-card showing the unmounted "safe to remove sd icon". I got scared after reading peoples posts saying it only took about 1min on their devices.
I then tried tapping on the memory card in settings to remount but got Force Close errors! I then waited a little longer as the phone wasn't actually frozen..so maybe it was still thinking? then BAM! phone just turned off! I turned it back on and there was only a black screen with a dim backlight for about 2-3min. I was thinking to myself $*@T i just bricked the phone! 2more minutes passed and then the Sony Ericcson logo came up...frozen followed by the AT&T logo which seemed to freeze for about a good 2-3min as well.
Well patience paid off because I'm glad I didn't force power off the system while Gingerbreak was doing it's magic! I guess with the r800at it just needs some more time to setup. approx (15min) I rooted a Generic IPAD "flytab" with 1.6 android with a custom rom and it took about that long just to startup the first time...
Now I just want native "unknown sources" sideloading to be enabled and i'll be good to go.
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Any luck getting ADB to work? I've never used either of those side-loading programs, but ADB always worked with my Backflip. Eventually I used Z4 to root it, but I don't know if that'll work on the Play.
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Got ADB to work finally! Just a dumb user error.... haven't messed with a DOS like environment since 6.22 haha. I had a dumb typo and sure enough I was able to transfer my apk files from my Galaxy Tab over.
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Got ADB to work finally! Just a dumb user error.... haven't messed with a DOS like environment since 6.22 haha. I had a dumb typo and sure enough I was able to transfer my apk files from my Galaxy Tab over.
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Excellent! Glad to hear. I know ADB can be a little cumbersome at times, but it's very useful. Plus the commands you use in it are pretty similar to using the terminal on the phone. I'm still not sure if there's a way to just turn on the option for installing from unknown sources. That would be ideal. At least now we know that it is possible to sideload apps on the R800at.
I have been reading several forums, and it seems that quite a few people are in a hurry to unroot their phones in order to download the latest OTA update from HTC.
WHY WOULD YOU EVER WANT TO UNROOT JUST TO DOWNLOAD THE LATEST OTA ??
Why would you want to risk breaking your root, possibly permantly, just to install an update that is basically the same as the previous one and is going to bring some bugs with it? From what I am reading, the new update is not all that wonderful.
One of the purposes of any HTC OTA update is to break as many roots as possible and to patch the phones so that they cannot be rooted. And, if the bootloader is locked, which several people claim it is, your phone may never be rooted again, at least not perm rooted.
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE FLASH YOUR FAVORITE LOOKING CUSTOM ROMS, YOUR CUSTOM ROM THAT MAKES YOUR PHONE RUN SO MUCH FASTER, THAT CUSTOM ROM THATS GIVING YOU THAT GREAT BATTERY LIFE,...
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL YOUR PHONE'S CPU, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESTORE THAT BACKUP, THAT POSSIBLY SAVED YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT FREE WIFI TETHERING, YOU WILL NOT BE ALBE TO DELETE THOSE UNWANTED APPS THAT ARE WASTING STORAGE SPACE ON YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FREEZE ALL THOSE SERVICES THAT YOUR TASKMANAGER CANNOT TOUCH THAT ARE KILLING YOUR BATTERY,...
Sorry I wrote a book here, but it makes no sense to me. If you want to try Android 2.3, why not just download the rooted version and maintain your root along with its many advantages?
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I have been reading several forums, and it seems that quite a few people are in a hurry to unroot their phones in order to download the latest OTA update from HTC.
WHY WOULD YOU EVER WANT TO UNROOT JUST TO DOWNLOAD THE LATEST OTA ??
Why would you want to risk breaking your root, possibly permantly, just to install an update that is basically the same as the previous one and is going to bring some bugs with it? From what I am reading, the new update is not all that wonderful.
One of the purposes of any HTC OTA update is to break as many roots as possible and to patch the phones so that they cannot be rooted. And, if the bootloader is locked, which several people claim it is, your phone may never be rooted again, at least not perm rooted.
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE FLASH YOUR FAVORITE LOOKING CUSTOM ROMS, YOUR CUSTOM ROM THAT MAKES YOUR PHONE RUN SO MUCH FASTER, THAT CUSTOM ROM THATS GIVING YOU THAT GREAT BATTERY LIFE,...
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL YOUR PHONE'S CPU, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESTORE THAT BACKUP, THAT POSSIBLY SAVED YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT FREE WIFI TETHERING, YOU WILL NOT BE ALBE TO DELETE THOSE UNWANTED APPS THAT ARE WASTING STORAGE SPACE ON YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FREEZE ALL THOSE SERVICES THAT YOUR TASKMANAGER CANNOT TOUCH THAT ARE KILLING YOUR BATTERY,...
Sorry I wrote a book here, but it makes no sense to me. If you want to try Android 2.3, why not just download the rooted version and maintain your root along with its many advantages?
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I just answered a post in another thread about this .... people are out of their effin minds especially when the software is out there already and has been for a while... Hey there a million what do I do posts and people getting flamed and the sensitive ones going stop doing that... Hey you stupid enough to update your phone OTA f-it you deserve what you get. forum is here to educated and help and if you dont want to use that help then you get what you deserve... Dont mean to be a **** but I guess for some you will feel that I am oh well
A lot of us unrooted prior to the update because we were expecting a hell of alot more than what we were given. I could have waited for one of the devs to give us a rooted version but it's like being given a present and told not to open it till tomorrow. Had I known the specifics of the update I definitely would have waited. All in all not a big deal though, they'll figure out how to root this soon until then I'll just piss and moan about this half ass update.
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I didn't get a choice, my phone died after flashing the new radio. When i got my replaced it had the latest ota already installed. Also went from Hardware 003 to 004. Guess I now have to give up flashing cold turkey
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A lot of us unrooted prior to the update because we were expecting a hell of alot more than what we were given. I could have waited for one of the devs to give us a rooted version but it's like being given a present and told not to open it till tomorrow. Had I known the specifics of the update I definitely would have waited. All in all not a big deal though, they'll figure out how to root this soon until then I'll just piss and moan about this half ass update.
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Within the same day a rooted version was out.
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Do we really need a thread to explain the obvious? People are just impatient and stupid.
Yup but I felt the need to get let down a few hours sooner. But I will say I knew in advance that it would more than likely screw my chance to root for a while. I made my own bed no need for me to come on here and whine about it like I see a lot of others doing.
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Award Tour said:
Do we really need a thread to explain the obvious? People are just impatient and stupid.
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The purpose of this thread was to discourage the next person from making the same mistake that others made, because people right now are still desperate to get the update by any means necessary.
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Yup but I felt the need to get let down a few hours sooner. But I will say I knew in advance that it would more than likely screw my chance to root for a while. I made my own bed no need for me to come on here and whine about it like I see a lot of others doing.
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When you do that, you run that chance of an exploit never being found. That may very well be the case if you have S-ON.
The dissapointment in the leaked OTA wasn't enough to dissuade people i guess.
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The purpose of this thread was to discourage the next person from making the same mistake that others made, because people right now are still desperate to get the update by any means necessary.
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If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
If they come here for help then they already know better.
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If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
If they come here for help then they already know better.
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I agree fully with this statement but like I said the leaked version has been out for like a month already... no guarantees they can fix the new bootloader... I know better though lol
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Impatience
I unrooted because there was no reason for me to be rooted. The only benefit of rooting for me was to have the free wifi tethering.
When my wife did the latest OTA update she was getting 4g in places I didn't get it. Her phone was also downloading on 4g at 10 megs down using the speedtest.net app. With multiple roms I have never gotten above 2 megs down, when I unrooted and went stock I was getting faster and better 4g.
Every Rom I installed was buggy, So if I am going to deal with roms that don't work or take away features or burn your eyes in the dark I would rather just deal with the stock sprint phone. I am also fortunate enough to be able to afford the hotspot service from sprint so I would rather pay for reliable fast service.
These are the reasons I unrooted. I understand that everyone has their own reasons for what they do with their devices and I respect them please respect mine. I am just answering the question that was asked in this post.
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If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
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Well, people HAVE missed it, and yes, they SHOULD know better. However, some need more help than others.
I was tempted but I knew someone that was stock and I let him go first. I also knew everyone would be posting here. I now run the rooted Rom put out the same day the ota was released. Thank god I held on to my senses and waited for it.
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I'm not unrooting anytime soon. Couple of reasons.
1.The big one is I'm not a huge fan of Sense.
2.All the bloatware that comes on the stock rom that slows it down, and takes up room.
3.For my battery!!!!
unrooted
Unrooted, tried out stock Gingerbread, rooted it again with rooting hormones.
It's not that "hard"...
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All,
Just want you to know I have had android phones for the past 4yrs and each and every one I have rooted, installed ROMS, tweeked etc...This is the only phone I feel I don't need to root. I did tweek it a bit by installing ART and disabling some bloatware apps from ATT, but so far, I have not gotten the itch to root yet.
I'm sure it will change, but so far this phone is a beast and I have no issues with it.
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Good for you. But some of us NEED root.
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Good for you. But some of us NEED root.
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No you don't, you WANT root. There is a big difference.
I think over the years manufacturers have slowly figured out how to make the stock experience less and less awful. I used to be a flash-aholic on my Droid Incredible but I can see how custom ROMs are becoming more of a personal preference than a necessity.
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No you don't, you WANT root. There is a big difference.
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Yeah, it's all semantics, really. :silly:
Sorry, but I guess that is what I was trying to get at with my post. In the past, I would root to optimize the phone, increase performance etc...But with the current state of Android and even this skinned LG, I can live with stock and not have to go through crack flashing. Was terribly time consuming.
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All,
Just want you to know I have had android phones for the past 4yrs and each and every one I have rooted, installed ROMS, tweeked etc...This is the only phone I feel I don't need to root. I did tweek it a bit by installing ART and disabling some bloatware apps from ATT, but so far, I have not gotten the itch to root yet.
I'm sure it will change, but so far this phone is a beast and I have no issues with it.
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Plus the LG set up has a native bluetooth hotspot that doesn't seem to need the $10 a month change my provider normally charges. So No hotspot hack required.
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No you don't, you WANT root. There is a big difference.
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I have an appradio 2 in my car. I NEED root for it to connect to my phone. So yes. I NEED root. Don't try talking for me.
Edit: NVM.
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I have an appradio 2 in my car. I NEED root for it to connect to my phone. So yes. I NEED root. Don't try talking for me.
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Again, you want root. You purchased an item under the assumption that you will always have root, and that may not be the case. You bought an item that doesn't support many devices it seems, perhaps you should have taken that into consideration before assuming every device you buy will have root. Its much easier to go to appradio and look at what is supported, and buying the appropriate device then insisting on needing root to use an item that currently isn't compatible with your phone.
Quit arguing semantics. It is really quite juvenile. Need/want - who cares.
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Again, you want root. You purchased an item under the assumption that you will always have root, and that may not be the case. You bought an item that doesn't support many devices it seems, perhaps you should have taken that into consideration before assuming every device you buy will have root. Its much easier to go to appradio and look at what is supported, and buying the appropriate device then insisting on needing root to use an item that currently isn't compatible with your phone.
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Dumbest debate I've ever heard. Maybe he NEEDS root to use a certain feature everyday for his job.
I NEED root to read logcats on my phone because I develop apps.
Any way to restore full sd support for kitkat without root?
I will mine tomorrow as soon as I get it lol
I rooted mine the same day I got it, for the same reason I immediately root all my devices. Adfree Android. I can't stand advertisements.....
Lord, the guy was talking about himself and somehow it became about someone else....he is experiencing his thought on HIS rooting experience. You want to go on about how much YOU NEED / WANT root open your own discussion thread and go at it...in YOUR thread.
And thanks OP for your input, thats the same kind of experience I am trying to go for where the stock rom can fullfil my phone desire without needing to root...and when I do will just be to entertain myself
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Again, you want root. You purchased an item under the assumption that you will always have root, and that may not be the case. You bought an item that doesn't support many devices it seems, perhaps you should have taken that into consideration before assuming every device you buy will have root. Its much easier to go to appradio and look at what is supported, and buying the appropriate device then insisting on needing root to use an item that currently isn't compatible with your phone.
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Actually, I bought the Appradio while I had the GS4, which has root. I got it knowing that I would need root, so I STILL have the GS4, and won't be buying the G3 until it has root. I'm not just going to jump to another phone without knowing for sure it has root.
So seriously... Get off your ****ing high horse.
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Dumbest debate I've ever heard. Maybe he NEEDS root to use a certain feature everyday for his job.
I NEED root to read logcats on my phone because I develop apps.
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You develop apps, but don't buy a developer phone? That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. He bought a niche product, and NEEDS root to play with it, its not for work, lol. Whatever. You need root, and you're a developer, so I'm sure you'll have it figured out in no time at all, Chief.
Ive been a long time lurker on this site prolly since the GSII-- I dont post much then , or with me GSIII or Note 2- I guess thats why that account no longer exists. So with my purchase of the Note Edge i knew this would be my go to place for any information or eventually ROM's-- i gotta say that normally i never spent more then a day with Touchwiz- usually rooting and flashing within 24 hours of purchase. Ive had the phone foe about 4 days and.... HOLY MOLY this phone is slooow... so much crap is running-- 3gb of ram and 2 and half of it is always used-- sprint zone and fb keep updating and re downloading even though i continuously uninstall them daily and revert to original software versions. Now i finally understand peoples hatred towards touchwiz.. im used to ASOP-- I coulda swore touchwiz was NOT that bad in the GSII days ;-( although i have faith the dev. will take off eventually with this phone... if there were other options i might have considered going else where-- im coming from a rooted note2) But i dont think there is anything remotely better then samsung-- as bad ass as the phone is spec'd out to be i thought it would be as zippy as the nexus--- but it is most definitely slower then my note- Also since ive been ot of the loop this KNOX stuff is all new to me--basically from what i gathered by googling any root will void the warranty on the device? ive never ever sent a phone in to samsung but there is times ive gone to A Sprint tech center for help--will they turn me away if its 0x1? well i just wanted to stop by and say hi to this forum-- im beginning the process to acquire files so i can root my phone tonight-- id think the sky is the limit with the things we can do with out phones--- Much thanks to the DEV's that make this possible!!
Well your sprint one seems to be acting funny.. I'm on my T-Mobile Note Edge, and I started from the G1. This phone is really smooth, no errors, and for the first time really no reason for me to have to root my phone and get rid of bloat ware to speed things up! And that was before I disabled the bloat ware anyways. You could say I'm also waiting for a way to root without tripping Knox. I'm kinda curious how ASOP or CyanogenMod will look like on this phone, and if they'll be able to use the edge productively. I'm actually throughly pleased with the phone, especially with how the home launcher is setup. My only bug is the fact that the second favorite edge doesn't allow for reorganization. That's my 2 cents. I hope your experience becomes more enjoyable
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Let me restate...i kinda sounded like a whiney brat with my last/first post. I realize that we as a group aa the less then 1% that care about specs.. and ver numbers. Im just not used to TouchWiz trying to do everything for me yet not the things i want it to do. for example every time I touch it text entry field I have a keyboard icon on the top of the notification bar...prompting me to choose Input method EVERYTIME?!? everyday I get sprint zone adverts in my notification bar even though I uninstall it every night before bed.. and multiple times a day I'm asked if I would like to sign in for Picasa.. i say no 3 or 4 times a day.. i cant figure out how to delete it. I miss the custom roms where all this bs is not even installed. Granted i knew there wasn't much support when i took the jump.. and honestly these issues would be the same with the regular note 4... id most definitely be willing to throw some $ to a recocognized established dev out there ... im miss my paranoid android and illusion roms :-/ but i know nothing out there can compare to the note edge at the moment...!
I have none of the issues you speak of. My only real issue is with kit Kat since I can't write to my sd card but other than that I am good with my phone.
I'm using the AT&T stock version and haven't encountered any issues except I waited to long to send it back to get the white version. Lol. Other than that I like the device.
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Ive been a long time lurker on this site prolly since the GSII-- I dont post much then , or with me GSIII or Note 2- I guess thats why that account no longer exists. So with my purchase of the Note Edge i knew this would be my go to place for any information or eventually ROM's-- i gotta say that normally i never spent more then a day with Touchwiz- usually rooting and flashing within 24 hours of purchase. Ive had the phone foe about 4 days and.... HOLY MOLY this phone is slooow... so much crap is running-- 3gb of ram and 2 and half of it is always used-- sprint zone and fb keep updating and re downloading even though i continuously uninstall them daily and revert to original software versions. Now i finally understand peoples hatred towards touchwiz.. im used to ASOP-- I coulda swore touchwiz was NOT that bad in the GSII days ;-( although i have faith the dev. will take off eventually with this phone... if there were other options i might have considered going else where-- im coming from a rooted note2) But i dont think there is anything remotely better then samsung-- as bad ass as the phone is spec'd out to be i thought it would be as zippy as the nexus--- but it is most definitely slower then my note- Also since ive been ot of the loop this KNOX stuff is all new to me--basically from what i gathered by googling any root will void the warranty on the device? ive never ever sent a phone in to samsung but there is times ive gone to A Sprint tech center for help--will they turn me away if its 0x1? well i just wanted to stop by and say hi to this forum-- im beginning the process to acquire files so i can root my phone tonight-- id think the sky is the limit with the things we can do with out phones--- Much thanks to the DEV's that make this possible!!
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root it and strip the rubbish and bloat, was da matta you?!
mine was slow and lagged like crazy from all the "indexservice" and annoying samsung crap running. i stripped it all and use CM cleanmaster and battery doctor. no autostarting apps and no bloat like weather and yahoo finance...
titanium backup to freeze or remove crap.
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No problems since I pulled it out the box...
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I have none of the issues you speak of. My only real issue is with kit Kat since I can't write to my sd card but other than that I am good with my phone.
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theres a fix listed in the note 4 root post. let me see if i can find it.
here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-edge/general/easy-steps-stock-odin-n915tuvu1anjl-sm-t2943993 first post, midway
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I have none of the issues you speak of. My only real issue is with kit Kat since I can't write to my sd card but other than that I am good with my phone.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jrummy.sdfix
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jrummy.sdfix
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even better
All those fixes are for rooted phones, i have not yet taken the plunge. I rooted my wife's note 4 but have just been hesitant to do my edge. I thought I was going to wait on lollipop but might not make it
Welp... enjoy your refusal
I wish there was a step by step thread on how to root the Sprint Edge and not any other variants because I don't wanna mix things up and brick my phone.
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I wish there was a step by step thread on how to root the Sprint Edge and not any other variants because I don't wanna mix things up and brick my phone.
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follow the steps in the link i posted but get the cf auto-root for the 915p. easy. i did it by following the link. if you screw up relax, you can fix it. but you will not screw up
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follow the steps in the link i posted but get the cf auto-root for the 915p. easy. i did it by following the link. if you screw up relax, you can fix it. but you will not screw up
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Does that include either custom recovery?. Is there one that is prefered to the other.
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Does that include either custom recovery?. Is there one that is prefered to the other.
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i would suggest at least reading the steps before asking questrions
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Does that include either custom recovery?. Is there one that is prefered to the other.
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I usually use CWM, but that's only because it's old school. Right now I chose not to install it in the last step of that thread because I have never used TWRP before. I have to say that I like the touch interface.
Besides getting the sprint variant of auto root you also need the sprint variant of TWRP. I posted a guide with basic steps including getting private mode working with xposed
For those that are here to help, thanks for pointing me to where I need to go, for those that posted about my needing to read, maybe you should spell check your snyde remarks before posting........lol
Sometimes its easier to answer a question and move on than to waste yours and my time. Yours by typing and not helping and mine by reading and not getting an answer.
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For those that are here to help, thanks for pointing me to where I need to go, for those that posted about my needing to read, maybe you should spell check your snyde remarks before posting........lol
Sometimes its easier to answer a question and move on than to waste yours and my time. Yours by typing and not helping and mine by reading and not getting an answer.
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look dude, i'm not trying to be a jerk but, you didn't even read the post. you just fired back a question. it's all right there in the in the link i posted, props to the creator, very well laid-out.
"RTFP"
nobody is going to baby you. you wanna root and do phone kung-fu, read!
I got my Note 4 Today! I love it already. Once I get my old phone official transferred to a family a member I think I'm going to root her. But first I wnated to know whats the process for rooting? And is it possible to unroot without signs its been rooted in case I need to send it for repairs? Thanks
My advice, start reading a little. I think I have seen your questions answered before?
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I got my Note 4 Today! I love it already. Once I get my old phone official transferred to a family a member I think I'm going to root her. But first I wnated to know whats the process for rooting? And is it possible to unroot without signs its been rooted in case I need to send it for repairs? Thanks
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There are many tutorial here on XDA about rooting, flashing etc.Read carefully and you'll be good to go.Also there is a section for question(Help&Troubleshooting), this is the general forum section, make sure where you post next.
Ah, cut him some slack, he's just excited he got a new phone!
But yes, you should do some reading before you do anything as drastic as modifying system files. There are tutorials and that will guide you through the process and a lot of threads discussing issues such as unrooting and warranty. Good luck!
As of right now, there is no known method to reset value of knox to default once rooted. Hopefully, someone will come up with a to root it without tripping knox or a way to reset the knox to default value. I also recently got my Note 4 and weighing in on whether I should root it or not.
I'm familiar with rooting and it's risks. I've rooted other devices. I just didn't want to dive headfirst into rooting this phone if I was not able to get it back to stock with no evidence of tampering. I have total equipment protection which covers any physical damage to the phone, and its come in handy in the past with devices that hav enot been rooted. I don't eve recall them doing anything at the store to check for modications to the software. Ultimately I plan on just rooting the device nad installing SU to get rid of bloatware and used some Xposed modules, no flashing of custom roms or anything.
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I'm familiar with rooting and it's risks. I've rooted other devices. I just didn't want to dive headfirst into rooting this phone if I was not able to get it back to stock with no evidence of tampering. I have total equipment protection which covers any physical damage to the phone, and its come in handy in the past with devices that hav enot been rooted. I don't eve recall them doing anything at the store to check for modications to the software. Ultimately I plan on just rooting the device nad installing SU to get rid of bloatware and used some Xposed modules, no flashing of custom roms or anything.
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rooting a note 4 is extremely silly. you lose half the functionality including a nice secure app store. and you lose it permanently with no possibility of getting it back along with the warranty.
zurkx said:
rooting a note 4 is extremely silly. you lose half the functionality including a nice secure app store. and you lose it permanently with no possibility of getting it back along with the warranty.
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I've had mine 4 days and rooted it. Just becos....well, cos I always have! Nowhere did I readabout losing functionality app Store, Samsung's l assume?Care to expand on that further?? while I search it?
Gotta say I'm impressed with the note so far- -Spen rocks-- no more keyboard which for me is the best feature, still exploring.. Any hints on using the note 4 to it's fullest capablities would be greatly appreciated.
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you lose the knox secure app store and obviously all the apps like knox email and secure/business versions of common apps as well.
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obviously all the apps like knox email
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and secure/business versions of common apps as well.
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ok, thanks for your reply and heads up-my phone is pure indulgence, not for the business side of things. will keep in mind though, and look into this 'Knox' thing a bit more .
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But you don't lose access to the galaxy apps such as s write s health etc.? If that's so I really don't care. I will probably never even look at this so called Knox app store.
youre going to write off half your phone functionality permanently without even trying it out once ?
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youre going to write off half your phone functionality permanently without even trying it out once ?
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mate it would be really nice. you could explain what this "half the functionality" we are losing, is-Samsung Apps still work,. Google search turned up only one post regarding ''losing functionality" and that was yours?? So I am a bit confused?
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mate it would be really nice. you could explain what this "half the functionality" we are losing, is-Samsung Apps still work,. Google search turned up only one post regarding ''losing functionality" and that was yours?? So I am a bit confused?
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you lose a huge huge amount of functionality. too much to describe. an entire separate app store with only secure apps. a stripped down and fast encrypted personality (basically a second phone with no bloat). seamless switching. secure email and separate invisible device storage. secure calendars and notes. device tracking and logging. remote wipe and remote lock/unlock. there is literally a multi hundred page manual for all the functionality available.
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you lose a huge huge amount of functionality. too much to describe. an entire separate app store with only secure apps. a stripped down and fast encrypted personality (basically a second phone with no bloat). seamless switching. secure email and separate invisible device storage. secure calendars and notes. device tracking and logging. remote wipe and remote lock/unlock. there is literally a multi hundred page manual for all the functionality available.
have a look at just one screen of knox emm and you can see how much functionality you lose :
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Off Topic: Is that a 4K screen? Damn that DPI must be pretty low I couldn't read without my glasses
Basically, yes, you lose Knox. Which is something that no app can replace right now. Knox is what iCloud Security is for iPhones. If somebody stoles your phone, you can track it, or delete everything and render it unusable to the thieft. Also, with knox and reactivation lock enabled, no one can root the phone and delete knox as it prevents to flash anything via Odin. It makes your phone really safe, but it's a worth losing.
I've rooted my phone since the first day I bought it. I don't have warranty as I've imported the phone from USA, so Samsung Argentina doesn't cover it. It's totally worth. If you use Kitkat, Xposed is the best addition for your rooted device. If you're in Lollipop, you can always flash custom themes/mods via Recovery. Root (almost) always is a benefit. I recommend you to enjoy your phone as is, and when you're prepared (or bored, whatever you want to call it), go ahead and root it. Congratulations and cheers!
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you lose a huge huge amount of functionality. too much to describe. an entire separate app store with only secure apps. a stripped down and fast encrypted personality (basically a second phone with no bloat). seamless switching. secure email and separate invisible device storage. secure calendars and notes. device tracking and logging. remote wipe and remote lock/unlock. there is literally a multi hundred page manual for all the functionality available.
have a look at just one screen of knox emm and you can see how much functionality you lose :
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Thankyou, I've had abitof a read up on Knox, I guess,.if this was a company phone, or I worked in IT then this ' feature would be the' bees knees'. fortunately its purely for pleasure!!
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Off Topic: Is that a 4K screen? Damn that DPI must be pretty low I couldn't read without my glasses
Basically, yes, you lose Knox. Which is something that no app can replace right now. Knox is what iCloud Security is for iPhones. If somebody stoles your phone, you can track it, or delete everything and render it unusable to the thieft. Also, with knox and reactivation lock enabled, no one can root the phone and delete knox as it prevents to flash anything via Odin. It makes your phone really safe, but it's a worth losing.
I've rooted my phone since the first day I bought it. I don't have warranty as I've imported the phone from USA, so Samsung Argentina doesn't cover it. It's totally worth. If you use Kitkat, Xposed is the best addition for your rooted device. If you're in Lollipop, you can always flash custom themes/mods via Recovery. Root (almost) always is a benefit. I recommend you to enjoy your phone as is, and when you're prepared (or bored, whatever you want to call it), go ahead and root it. Congratulations and cheers!
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nice, thanks for the info chap, I'm absolutely loving this thing. Root was done in first few hours, used CF Root and Odin all good.
Hope OP has enough info now to make a decision,
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I can see how Knox would be detrimental to someone in a business or tech related job where security is upmost importance however I am not that person so it's just something that' snot useful to me. I think for the time being I'll just keep the phone as is but eventually I will probably root it. I'm only a few days in and I already miss some of my apps and Xposed modules that I used one my One from when it was rooted.
Personally I wouldn't bother rooting. Losing a warranty isn't worth it considering the minimal benefits of rooting.
You'll soon learn to live without the limited additions that exposed offers, and you'll not miss the performance hit exposed offers the Note 4 which is slow enough already.
There is a thread that suggests alternatives to rooting.
If you're anything like me, you'll be onto another phone soon enough and no one will want to buy a phone with no warranty that someone's been trashing with Root.
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Personally I wouldn't bother rooting. Losing a warranty isn't worth it considering the minimal benefits of rooting.
You'll soon learn to live without the limited additions that exposed offers, and you'll not miss the performance hit exposed offers the Note 4 which is slow enough already.
There is a thread that suggests alternatives to rooting.
If you're anything like me, you'll be onto another phone soon enough and no one will want to buy a phone with no warranty that someone's been trashing with Root.
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Not me I wen the Sprint easy pay route. I'll have this phone for the next two years. I think I'll wait till OTA of Lollipop comes out then wait for a stable root and do it then.