I bought this device because it was overall very good in all the reviews I read. I read that the charger that came with it didnt support Quick Charge 2.0. That was the first dissapointment. When i received it, it was running Android 6.0. I did an OTA check and no updates were available. I decided to download Lg Bridge and i finally found one update. I bought this device on one condition, to avoid LG UX 4.0. And guess what, my phone was part of an ever growing crowd of people who didnt have the eu bootloader! I felt like I was smacked in the face. I searched the internet for more info and my fears were confirmed. Ever since that i vowed to never buy from LG again. Android is about Freedom and there is none of that on the LG G4. European market bias confirmed:crying:. Months after the discovery I had witnessed the scariest thing ever, I was listening to some music with my LG earphones plugged in. And suddenly i couldnt wake the damned thing anymore but when i touched the screen i could hear typing sounds, I had to pull the battery out. The battery life on the thing was mediocre at best, the screen never lived up the my expectations, the phone gets dangerously hot when i use snapchat. The only thing going for the LG G4 is its camera which was probably the best in 2015. I simply cannot stand the lag on the phone anymore and I am searching for other phones. Im not that kind of person who spends 600 euros on a phone. Then the Oneplus 3 showed and for 400 euro i get a phone 2 times as powerful, dash charging, an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER and a premium design. Whats more Oneplus actually tries to fix its phones and released tons of fxes for the OP2. Im pretty sure the phone will get Android Nougat even if it takes a while(after witnessing what speedy updates meant on the LG G4 I would prefer slow and steady progress). The only thing the oneplus loses in is the camera department which will improve. Im tempted to wait for the 2016 Nexuses as they will have the best Android experience as well as support for Daydream vr. Ive also checked out the ugly zenfone 3 deluxe which will cost much more than 400 euro. The Axon 7 is also tempting but im not sure if the 6gb version will come out for Europe, the bootloader seems to be locked for now(news next week on whether it will be unlocked) So guys should i wait for the more expensive Nexus by HTC or look out for the OP3 and Axon 7?
You're not alone.
After a year of using it
Pro:
- Battery life, yes it last more than one day, and never need the 2nd battery
- Camera, I am not a pro, but keep getting compliment saying the photos are awesome
- Screen, I have no complaint, but nowaday a lot of high-end phone gets 1440p screen
- Quick eMMC speed and SD support
Cons:
- Still no unlocked BOOTLOADER!
- ****ty OS
- SLOW CPU nowaday
- Poor Wifi (50% vs my iPAD air 2 full bar)
- Very poor resale value
- Leather gets dirty quickly and expensive to replace
Verdict: The camera is holding me from getting another phone. It will be either Note7, Nexus 2016, or iPhone7.
I do not agree with some things here. The leather is not getting dirty fast at all except if you are not careful enough. I have the phone since February and the leather is like day one. I do agree that those covers are too expensive. The phone gets warm but so do many others with Snapdragons. Only my S6 and iPhone does not get very warm. It's a common issue with Android phones due to their hardware. The latest Snapdragons tend getting warmer than other chips. My 6P was getting very warm too. Metal is good for cooling during winter but during summer it absorbs the surrounding heat faster than other materials. The battery life is OK. Just OK nothing outstanding. I get 3 to 4h SoT indoors with WiFi and 1 to 2h SoT outside with 4G. The screen of G4 is 1440p except if I didn't understand correctly what you wrote. It's like you implied that the G4 has no QHD screen which is wrong. Overall the phone is one of the snappiest and lag free I ever had. It definitely feels more snappy than the 6P which shocked me when I bought it. The UX is OK. I find it a bit ugly and uninspired. It misses some options and features. Like settings search. The only thing that bothers me with this phone is the Bootloop issue and the absence of fingerprint reader. I will never buy OnePlus though. No official service centres in many countries and very slow Android updates. Look when they got Marshmallow. Their OS is buggy as hell. Also I will never again trust a phone with an OLED panel except from Samsung's. All non Samaung phones that have OLED tend to have weak and lower quality panels which are bad optimised. My guess is OEMs order lower grade OLED panels from Samsung to cut costs. G4 has one of the best screens I ever had. G4 and my older S6. I live in a sunny country and I had problems with many phones which were absolutely not visible during the day. For the price it is still one very good phone. Now it's dirty cheap. LG just lost their Mojo. They are trying too hard to innovate and do crazy things and lost the basics in the process.
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I bought this device because it was overall very good in all the reviews I read. I read that the charger that came with it didnt support Quick Charge 2.0. That was the first dissapointment. When i received it, it was running Android 6.0. I did an OTA check and no updates were available. I decided to download Lg Bridge and i finally found one update. I bought this device on one condition, to avoid LG UX 4.0. And guess what, my phone was part of an ever growing crowd of people who didnt have the eu bootloader! I felt like I was smacked in the face. I searched the internet for more info and my fears were confirmed. Ever since that i vowed to never buy from LG again. Android is about Freedom and there is none of that on the LG G4. European market bias confirmed:crying:. Months after the discovery I had witnessed the scariest thing ever, I was listening to some music with my LG earphones plugged in. And suddenly i couldnt wake the damned thing anymore but when i touched the screen i could hear typing sounds, I had to pull the battery out. The battery life on the thing was mediocre at best, the screen never lived up the my expectations, the phone gets dangerously hot when i use snapchat. The only thing going for the LG G4 is its camera which was probably the best in 2015. I simply cannot stand the lag on the phone anymore and I am searching for other phones. Im not that kind of person who spends 600 euros on a phone. Then the Oneplus 3 showed and for 400 euro i get a phone 2 times as powerful, dash charging, an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER and a premium design. Whats more Oneplus actually tries to fix its phones and released tons of fxes for the OP2. Im pretty sure the phone will get Android Nougat even if it takes a while(after witnessing what speedy updates meant on the LG G4 I would prefer slow and steady progress). The only thing the oneplus loses in is the camera department which will improve. Im tempted to wait for the 2016 Nexuses as they will have the best Android experience as well as support for Daydream vr. Ive also checked out the ugly zenfone 3 deluxe which will cost much more than 400 euro. The Axon 7 is also tempting but im not sure if the 6gb version will come out for Europe, the bootloader seems to be locked for now(news next week on whether it will be unlocked) So guys should i wait for the more expensive Nexus by HTC or look out for the OP3 and Axon 7?
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Same, start on Apple, screw them to hell
Next, got LG, stared good, now it sucks
Moving to Samsung!
I was always trash talking sony, after buying this one I feel bad for that. I did not even know i bought a dual version until i got it :c
Now there is no unlock/root for me (bye-bye dualshock, drivedroid etc). Buy cheap, buy twice.
After a year or so, my main issue is the weak SoC.
It is really showing its age (weaker overall than 2 years old Snapdragon 805). I'm not even playing games, but using the likes of Google Photos takes its toll on the CPU and the battery drains fast.
Sometimes, it struggles to keep up with daily tasks (Google Maps, instant messaging apps, web browser, Strava, camera) : laggy, overheating.
Looking forward to the V20.
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V20 attracts me too, but G4 is a great phone. Unfortunately, the battery is bad, but
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After a year or so, my main issue is the weak SoC.
It is really showing its age (weaker overall than 2 years old Snapdragon 805). I'm not even playing games, but using the likes of Google Photos takes its toll on the CPU and the battery drains fast.
Sometimes, it struggles to keep up with daily tasks (Google Maps, instant messaging apps, web browser, Strava, camera) : laggy, overheating.
Looking forward to the V20.
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Unfortunately, the battery is bad, but I have a spare charger too, so far I am fully satisfied.
Only updates should come more often.
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Same here. No more LG for me... So many issues like bootloop and overheating...
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Jesus people, stop crying and make a reaserch before you gonna buy a phone. This kind of posts are on every phone forum, every single one, G4 is my 11th Android phone, I had Motorola, Sony, OPO2, OPPO, Samsung and on each forum I've seen countless posts like this. FYI - LG is a first phone that I really like after one year of using, just before I bought it I have read about unlocking bootloader, root, etc and chose it after some reaserch.
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I bought this device because it was overall very good in all the reviews I read. I read that the charger that came with it didnt support Quick Charge 2.0. That was the first dissapointment. When i received it, it was running 6.0. I did an OTA check and no updates were available. I decided to download Lg Bridge and i finally found one update. I bought this device on one condition, to avoid LG UX 4.0. And guess what, my phone was part of an ever growing crowd of people who didnt have the eu bootloader! I felt like I was smacked in the face. I searched the internet for more info and my fears were confirmed. Ever since that i vowed to never buy from LG again. is about Freedom and there is none of that on the LG G4. European market bias confirmed:crying:. Months after the discovery I had witnessed the scariest thing ever, I was listening to some music with my LG earphones plugged in. And suddenly i couldnt wake the damned thing anymore but when i touched the screen i could hear typing sounds, I had to pull the battery out. The battery life on the thing was mediocre at best, the screen never lived up the my expectations, the phone gets dangerously hot when i use snapchat. The only thing going for the LG G4 is its camera which was probably the best in 2015. I simply cannot stand the lag on the phone anymore and I am searching for other phones. Im not that kind of person who spends 600 euros on a phone. Then the Oneplus 3 showed and for 400 euro i get a phone 2 times as powerful, dash charging, an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER and a premium design. Whats more Oneplus actually tries to fix its phones and released tons of fxes for the OP2. Im pretty sure the phone will get Nougat even if it takes a while(after witnessing what speedy updates meant on the LG G4 I would prefer slow and steady progress). The only thing the oneplus loses in is the camera department which will improve. Im tempted to wait for the 2016 Nexuses as they will have the best experience as well as support for Daydream vr. Ive also checked out the ugly zenfone 3 deluxe which will cost much more than 400 euro. The Axon 7 is also tempting but im not sure if the 6gb version will come out for Europe, the bootloader seems to be locked for now(news next week on whether it will be unlocked) So guys should i wait for the more expensive Nexus by HTC or look out for the OP3 and Axon 7?
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not just that mine was dead in 2 days after an official update via lg bridge. i am a poor man ... i hope lg make things right but i dont think i can afford another until i am a grand grand parent...
i have seen few htc with my friends htc m8 ithink they were they had a solid build quality and never gave a problem to them all 3 of them running cynogen i bet quality wise htc or samsung are best Huawie and chinese phones are not attrctive but have solid build quality i knw this for sure
I'm done with LG as well. I wonder if anyone from LG reads REAL communities and learn from this? Mine is battery life, while some get good life, mine is at 50% by noon and I start at 9 am, so that's not saying a lot for this phone. Of course the locked bootloader, but even more than the lock, their OS is just abysmal, why, just why?
I can't wait until the Zenfone 3 Deluxe shows up in Canada.
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Jesus people, stop crying and make a reaserch before you gonna buy a phone. This kind of posts are on every phone forum, every single one, G4 is my 11th Android phone, I had Motorola, Sony, OPO2, OPPO, Samsung and on each forum I've seen countless posts like this. FYI - LG is a first phone that I really like after one year of using, just before I bought it I have read about unlocking bootloader, root, etc and chose it after some reaserch.
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Oh dude, so here is what your NOT UNDERSTANDING. The H812 (Canadian Version) came shipped with Android 5.1. It DID NOT have a locked bootloader. Then one day in February we got the Magical Unicorn also knows as Marshmallow. Like many MANY other people, we updated the OTA because we just needed that battery improving upgrade, after-all Europe got this update 2 months before and are happily running the phone the way they see fit...Stock, Roms, Root, whatever. SURPRISE PHONE BOOTLOADER LOCKED UPON OTA. This has nothing to do with the actual phone itself as a functioning electronic device, this has to do with LG's GIANT FK YOU Canada.
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Jesus people, stop crying and make a reaserch before you gonna buy a phone. This kind of posts are on every phone forum, every single one, G4 is my 11th Android phone, I had Motorola, Sony, OPO2, OPPO, Samsung and on each forum I've seen countless posts like this. FYI - LG is a first phone that I really like after one year of using, just before I bought it I have read about unlocking bootloader, root, etc and chose it after some reaserch.
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Sorry but your point is not valid, the sellers don't tell you if its the European bootloader version or not.
I have the Singapore model so I'm stuck with what I have.
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Sorry but your point is not valid, the sellers don't tell you if its the European bootloader version or not.
I have the Singapore model so I'm stuck with what I have.
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European reseller has no right to sell you Singapore version as warranty won't be valid in Europe, if you referring to some eBay sellers then you can always ask about country origin.
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I'm done with LG as well. I wonder if anyone from LG reads REAL communities and learn from this? Mine is battery life, while some get good life, mine is at 50% by noon and I start at 9 am, so that's not saying a lot for this phone. Of course the locked bootloader, but even more than the lock, their OS is just abysmal, why, just why?
I can't wait until the Zenfone 3 Deluxe shows up in Canada.
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Oh dude, so here is what your NOT UNDERSTANDING. The H812 (Canadian Version) came shipped with Android 5.1. It DID NOT have a locked bootloader. Then one day in February we got the Magical Unicorn also knows as Marshmallow. Like many MANY other people, we updated the OTA because we just needed that battery improving upgrade, after-all Europe got this update 2 months before and are happily running the phone the way they see fit...Stock, Roms, Root, whatever. SURPRISE PHONE BOOTLOADER LOCKED UPON OTA. This has nothing to do with the actual phone itself as a functioning electronic device, this has to do with LG's GIANT FK YOU Canada.
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Does kzd upgrade also update bootloader? maybe you can flash inside your g4 , the eu kzd , update bootloader to eu version and just unlock it . Just a Ideea ,Maybe dnt works
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Does kzd upgrade also update bootloader? maybe you can flash inside your g4 , the eu kzd , update bootloader to eu version and just unlock it . Just a Ideea ,Maybe dnt works
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It depends on your device id and your IMEI not the software sadly ..
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It depends on your device id and your IMEI not the software sadly ..
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There must be a way to restore the bootloader . I read on some post taht a guy used a ZTE software to rewrite all phone partitions and he modified IMEI and Device ID . He did not changed bootlaoder but I think there must be a way .I will look for that post and I will post here . He explained that his phone was switching mode and appeared in his Windows Device manager like a serial COM device and he had access to all phone partitions ,about 20-30 of them .
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There must be a way to restore the bootloader . I read on some post taht a guy used a ZTE software to rewrite all phone partitions and he modified IMEI and Device ID . He did not changed bootlaoder but I think there must be a way .I will look for that post and I will post here . He explained that his phone was switching mode and appeared in his Windows Device manager like a serial COM device and he had access to all phone partitions ,about 20-30 of them .
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A guy whose name is XVANKO said he found a way to unlock bootloader unofficially. He disappeared 4-5 days ago. I can't access him.. Hope he returns and tell us the unlocking method
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"The video below shows the researcher using his app to root an Android-powered HTC phone, which is connected to a computer by a USB cable. The first ID and su commands show that the device is unrooted. After running "moo"�the name of the file containing the exploit code�and then running the su and ID commands again, it's clear that the device has been rooted."
http://arstechnica.com/security/201...ed-by-most-serious-linux-escalation-bug-ever/
and there is more on google .
I had LG G4 for 1 year and a half, i was tierd of waiting for software fixes, Android 7 etc... The phone got worse day by day, even after factory reset. On 31 December i have switched to Moto Z, 2 days ago i got Android 7 via OTA, the phone is flowless and the camera is slightly better then G4, also the battery life is better, and dont forget that you can add modules. I will buy the Incipio pack with 2220mAh. Just read the reviews.
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I'm tired of this planned obselesence bull. It has the same exact camera. If I don't see high bitrate 4k, 60fps 1080p, and manual video control I'm done. Furthermore, I better not see any UI improvements that won't be present on the G4 in a near future time.
If they do any of this nonsense on a year old, marketed, FLAGship, I'm finished. At that point I'll know the path they are taking with their phones and what they think of their consumers.
I see what you mean but we live in such system, now more than ever, programmed obsolesence is the first reason phone's are sold. We can't do nothing really, what we can do is stopping buying but no one will do that because for one that not buy there are millions that buy, try to port features or just use alternative apps.
Yep, then don't buy. Vote with your wallet, eventually these companies would understand why their sales are dropping. I've already sold my LG G4
I jumped ship this evening and ordered the 6P. I've had several awful days of lock ups, lag, bad touchscreen response, weird graphic glitches, etc. Just done.
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I jumped ship this evening and ordered the 6P. I've had several awful days of lock ups, lag, bad touchscreen response, weird graphic glitches, etc. Just done.
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6p too here soon, hopefully.
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What does the 6p have that the g4 doesnt have?
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What does the 6p have that the g4 doesnt have?
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Marshmallow. Soon a **** load of roms
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What does the 6p have that the g4 doesnt have?
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Hmmm.. An open conversation between developer and consumer? At least with Google, you KNOW you have at least a year before they will release their next flagship. I bought the G4 and LITERALLY the next day the V10 leaks started! Also... frequent updates without carrier bs (I'll never forget the update I got on my last phone.. when everyone else was getting Lollipop, AT&T pushed out an update that installed UBER and AT&T Live on my damn phone lol). The Nexus will have a vibrant developer community that isn't hobbled by locked bootloaders and carrier restrictions, and a Fingerprint scanner to name a few. But, the G4 does have some features that I don't think you'll find on the 6p! Namely, horrible touch-screen response, lag that appears out of nowhere, a plastic back that can get so hot I'd swear it was metal. Sorry for the pessimism but this is only my 2nd Android phone and I'm batting 0/2 as my first was the AT&T variant of the Galaxy S5 (RIP Safestrap!) and I'm done with this crap lol. As soon as possible, I'm hitching my horse to a Nexus and never looking back! PS I forgot! The 6P has that giant Cyclops eye on it's backend! Also, having said all that, the developers that are working here on the G4 are amazing! The fact that they've been able to do what they have despite the restrictions is awesome!
I will definitely miss the manual camera, I think LG did a great job with that, and I'm disappointed that Google has not included manual settings in the stock camera. But there are other manual camera apps for that. I've been hunting down camera comparison shots for weeks, looking to see that the 6P can hold it's own, and I'm confident in all the test shots I've found. It's less a question on what the 6P has than what it DOESN'T have. I have reached the end of my patience with the bad performance of the G4 that I'm willing to lose some (if any) camera quality to gain stability and reliability. It's true that you gain a thriving development community with Nexus, but the development on the G4 didn't bother me to begin with. I'm perfectly happy with just root! It's a shame, because I had a G3 which I loved.
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I've said this for years xD I'm no longer buy Apple devices or Samsung devices. I'm only left with LG, Sony and the smaller brands. Haha.
Every company does this, so, if this happens now, I won't have another LG. These companies just keep trying to sell more and more phones every year.
I'm also crossed that LG doesn't allow longer exposures for third party apps so you don't have 30 sec. exposure times.
I must say that from all the brands. I was the most satisfied with HTC. (had One M7). Good updates, has google play edition. Awesome policy. Too bad that when G4 came out you really didn't have a good camera phone except it and S6.
Too bad, the companies are shifting to this practice. As @Mad_Duke said the HTC M7 was the phone I liked the most (except for the camera). For the past 1,5 years I owned Sony (Z3), OnePlus (One), Samsung (S6/920F) and now the G4. I have to say that Oneplus was the most satisfying overall. All big names are unfortunately doing their own practices to sell more phones. Sony was slow at releasing 5.0 (and when it got released it was a "crippled" update), Samsung puts too much bloat and do not release the full documents for the Exynos, thus the development is slow. So far LG is kind of OK, at least you can flash some of the updated apps. However, if you want the fastest and most developed phones, you have to go with Nexus (or OnePlus like) devices.
I kinda expected manual camera for g3 when g4 came out. However, seeing a reality of thos bussiness I can see why they need to constantly shell out new products and plan the software obsolence of the older ones - because market (all of us) demands it. We need new models, company just cant sell same phone for 2 years and just shell out the updates (even with nexus5 we started demanding new models).
Vallet voting, just that.
I hope your post is a joke!
I had Nexus 4 before,and even if it was a Google device,I never had manual camera(with third party App),HDR+ or other improvements.
The same is happened with Samsung,Sony and Apple.
So what are we talking about?
If you want devices that has improvements in camera you should buy a Windows Phone.
After updates,even Lumia 520 has Manual Camera.
What a stupid thread
I have had marshmallow since day one ableit custom rom
Unlocked bootloader h815
Lg are a business in a cut throat market with so much choice for the consumer
You cannot live without the extra features? Wow lol
Imho its the best phone of 2015
Wow... just wow. Some of you guys are expecting waaay to much. It's not like other companies/phones bring all the latest **** to their older phones. The V10 has extra hardware to make some of the new video features work, so no, you probably won't get these features.
Also, LG is the first non-nexus to update to marshmallow but for some this still isn't fast enough. They offer fine support for this phone, realize normal consumers don't care if updates like these take longer (see Samsung) but LG is offering it way faster anyway.
The G4 looks very attractive right now.
The v10 is bigger, in size. Great video if you need it.
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I hope your post is a joke!
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tinkerers get bored when there is nothing left to tinker with
I had Nexus 4 before,and even if it was a Google device,I never had manual camera(with third party App),HDR+ or other improvements.
The same is happened with Samsung,Sony and Apple.
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S6 still does not have shutter control in the UI, the s6e+ & note 5 which came out only 3 months later have it.
S6 has raw and shutter in the api so if you use a 3rd party app you can use it but everybody wants to do this in the stock app.
The Z5 has shutter control, still no raw. Previous xperias have no shutter control because companies lock down the camera api to the point that the only reliable camera app you can use is the stock one.
So what are we talking about?
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he basically wants out and is trying to find a pretext, not necessary.
If you want devices that has improvements in camera you should buy a Windows Phone.
After updates,even Lumia 520 has Manual Camera.
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not really, the 930 languished for a couple of years after it launched. Its successor is two years late, the 950 but the OS is difficult to deal with without google services integration.
its true nokia camera interface is ahead of the curve and is available even on budget devices. But OIS, lens, bigger sensor and image processing requires more cpu is only present on higher end models. The 830 has ois. The 1020 can't do 4k.
G4 has been a POS since day one with the exception of the fantastic camera. I cannot believe that ppl are still here when you got phones like the Note 5 and 6P on the market. A removable battery and SD card slot does not solve lag and touchscreen issues....
Hello,
Having some problems with my LG G3 and LG have agreed to giving me a settlement of the phones value when I first started my contract as they can't replace it so I'm getting between £400-600 for my troubles. Trying to avoid going on contract so wanting to pick up a phone on par or better than my G3 and I came across the OnePlus 2 which is £249.99 for the 64gb model and from what I've seen packs a punch.
Is the device worth the cash? I'd be unlocking the bootloader and heading straight to CM so not too fussed on the state of the stock ROM. Just want to make sure it runs smoothly, has no lag and all in all is good value for money.
Any help would be great.
Thanks,
Curtis
No. I'm quite sad that i bought it. And i can't sell it, as not a lot of people in denmark, are into phones like this. Btw what were the issue with your lg g3?
As soon as OOS 3.0 beta was released, I would recommend this phone to everyone. Now with 3.0.1 it became even better. I was looking for a better phone, but haven't found anything that would suite my needs better yet. UI is butter smooth, camera is superb, haven't came across any heat problems with SD810 neither. Battery life is plain marvelous (see pics). So yes, in my opinion it's worth giving a shot.
PS I've tried most of the cm roms, would still recommend sticking with Oxygen. Even if everything was okayish, call quality was always crap (me being hipster who still uses phone to call)
PS 2 I'm new here (being registered, I've been following xda threads since years) - how to upload an image?
I'm on my 9th phone so far for 2016 lol. As of right now, I am more than satisfied with my OPT. This thing crushes the G3 in evey way.
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Thanks for the replies. In regards to the question about the problem with my G3 - Mic was fully gone, sent it back four times and each time they claimed it was fix but the device wasn't touched whatsoever.
Is is it worth waiting for the Oneplus 3 (Assuming it launches June 14th)? I don't mind being phoneless for a few weeks so I'm hoping it's fully announced and online very soon as my G3 is being sent off Tuesday so should have everything sorted from LG by next Tuesday I imagine as it's being sent direct to their head management since their engineers are incompetent haha.
Last question; any discount codes floating around for the OnePlus devices? Had a look online but no luck! No harm in saving a few £££
Thanks again
Today I learned something : Never buy LG smartphones'. My G3 crashed while I was surfing on facebook and a blue screen appeared, after few seconds, the smartphone turned off and no more sign of life. Tomorrow I will try to repair it with this guide : http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...very-guide-t3132359/post65003040#post65003040 . According to what I read on the web, the G2 has the same problems, the G3 suffers from the problem of battery and slow GPS, the G4 and the V20 from reboot ...
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Finally, I succed to repair my G3, by burning the internal memory with a HAIR DRAYER ?
Thank you for your opinion. It helped me a lot.
NOT
Who's forecing you? Buy an iphone
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Who's forecing you? Buy an iphone
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Nobody forces me, and I no longer trust LG, all their products have problems after some months of use :crying: .
I can not buy apple products because it's expensive and I do not like their CLOSED SYSTEM .
My next smartphone will surely be an Xperia.
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thank you for your opinion. It helped me a lot.
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you're welcome
I had iphone an I had xperia phones. But the best smartphone that I had was LG. And I have a g3 and a g4. Never had any problems with them.
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I had iphone an I had xperia phones. But the best smartphone that I had was LG. And I have a g3 and a g4. Never had any problems with them.
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I'm not the only one to have these problems, many G3 are victims of the blue screen of death and reboots caused by the battery after 6 months of use, the body of the phone that breaks near the micro and the usb port.
The G4 suffers from bootloops.
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Today I learned something : Never buy LG smartphones'. My G3 crashed while I was surfing on facebook and a blue screen appeared, after few seconds, the smartphone turned off and no more sign of life. Tomorrow I will try to repair it with this guide : http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...very-guide-t3132359/post65003040#post65003040 . According to what I read on the web, the G2 has the same problems, the G3 suffers from the problem of battery and slow GPS, the G4 and the V20 from reboot ...
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I respect your opinion Sir. Everyone is entitled to their choices and opinions
But please ....please dont generalise based on just opinions or few out of a larger groups.
Any device will have its ups and downs.
I have used LG devices for a very long time and I am completely convinced that their device is very robust and bricking it requires special (shall I call it special stupid skills ) skills
So. please try to be composed and not to spread negativity.
I dont use LG G3 but I know there are brilliant devs here and people who will swear that their devices are working great.
I am not closing this thread on the account of leaving users opinions but plz avoid spreading confusing conflicting biased opinions
Thanks
TOO BAD for you ... because LG G3 is one of the best smartphones that I used and ENJOYED USING IT in my life .. ps: I never had this problem and I hope you could solve it good luck
Never had one issue or the reboot problem with the battery however I replaced with aftermarket batteries after awhile...have had every Rom installed and used it while not rooted...everything put on ur phone requires reading up on this knowing the knowledge of what's going on to your phone along with adjustments from your own experience...most of what goes wrong is user ERROR. I would suggest you do your homework before blaming LG for your problems although I hope you can resolve them and good luck
I´ve been using LG since the ¨LG Chocolate¨ days I´ve had almost every single ¨G¨ phone you name it (OG1,G2, G Pro, GFlex, G3, GFlex2, G4, V10) even the Nexus devices 4 and 5... And I gotta tell you there´s nothing like the G3. 5 G4s have died outta nowhere and I´ve lost money cause they were out of warranty, plus @bountyman334 stole my last good G4 when I sent it to him for repair. My V10 lasted 3 months and I bought it new from VRZW, that one I sent it to factory and they fixed it with a new motherboard.
But sincerely I ditched LG for Moto again, rocking the Moto X Pure now and loving it (same specs as the G4 only no bootlooping and quite large development community).
But I still love the G3, I´m ordering one as I type, it has a great dev community and its a beast phone!
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I respect your opinion Sir. Everyone is entitled to their choices and opinions
But please ....please dont generalise based on just opinions or few out of a larger groups.
Any device will have its ups and downs.
I have used LG devices for a very long time and I am completely convinced that their device is very robust and bricking it requires special (shall I call it special stupid skills ) skills
So. please try to be composed and not to spread negativity.
I dont use LG G3 but I know there are brilliant devs here and people who will swear that their devices are working great.
I am not closing this thread on the account of leaving users opinions but plz avoid spreading confusing conflicting biased opinions
Thanks
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I agree with you, the G3 is a very good machine, it was the best smartphone of 2014, but reliability is a disaster, I flashed a long time ago Fulmics 6.7 to avoid overheating, I Replaced the battery twice (originals batteries.) My brother has the Xperia Z3 and flash every day roms but the smartphone is still intact.
My friend has a G3 and has reboots after 7 months because of the battery, on the web, lot of users have the same problem.
Well, I am still using a G3 and I really love it. Easy root, good custom roms, XDA community support. I bought a G5 in hope of root and custom ROM support. Mine was not the EU varient since I don't live in europe (mine is South African H850), so I didn't get bootloader unlock. While I was hoping root from XDA community, nothing came so far. Just because of that I'm getting rid of it tomorrow. None of the LG devices got so much xda community support after G3. Locked bootloader is an issue obviously.
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Never had one issue or the reboot problem with the battery however I replaced with aftermarket batteries after awhile...have had every Rom installed and used it while not rooted...everything put on ur phone requires reading up on this knowing the knowledge of what's going on to your phone along with adjustments from your own experience...most of what goes wrong is user ERROR. I would suggest you do your homework before blaming LG for your problems although I hope you can resolve them and good luck
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I'm blaming LG beacause I'm not the only one who had these issues, I ever had baseband issue with an Xperia SP but It was the only model that had it and sony exchanged it for free. The G4 suffers from bootloops after generally 4 mounths, LG exchenged it for free, but once the warranty ends it will be necessary to pay
Unfortunately, the guide did not help me, I flashed all thepartitions but no sign of life.
never had issues with the phone. soon it'll be 2 years since I have it. I'll probably just buy new battery and skip upgrade for at least a year more...
I think LG G3 is the best phone in 2014, but not as good as the Samsung hardware, many faulty screen machines and resources, so sad.
here's my rant (sorry for broken english in advance)
- awful GPS. I've owned not so much android devices, flagship mainly. I've never faced GPS problems, till G3 =). I thought it's impossible to be a flagship device and have poor GPS. But guys from LG think different.
The problem is both with hardware and software. I know what i'm talking about. I tried to fix it since i have this phone.
Hardware: bad connection between pins on MB and cover. Software: it keeps loosing GPS lock randomly. You can turn gps toggle off and then on again, and will lock almost instantly.
A year ago i was traveling with family miles away from home, i didn't have data plan, may this was a reason.. anyway my G3 started to loose GPS when i was in center of Warsaw. God i was mad.. After that it continue to loose gps till i back to my home region
Even now, when i "fixed" HW problems GPS reception is just poor. I have some ASUS cheap tablet, this thing can lock gps anywhere - on the backseats of a car, in a building even w/o AGPS
Don't tell me that "i don't know what are talking about, my GPS is fine". No it's not, try to google "LG * GPS" where star is anything from G2-G5, V10, V20, nexus 5 - top results will be about poor GPS. This is major LG problem
- Overheating. I don't actually understand how it's possible to have such kind of issues in 2014. This is LG - one of the biggest phones manufacture, right? Don't they have quality control department or something like that ? I have only one explanation for myself is they just don't care.
Under heavy load phone heats up almost immediately. The problem is that phone becomes laggy at these moments, also you can't adjust brightness to 100% (because it's hot), and you can't charge it more than ~80%. And when you using it , for example, as a navigation on a dashboard... well, you have to stop using it, because it's charging, heating by a sunlight, heating up by it's display, GPS chip, CPU so display dims to 5%
- The loss of SD card slot. Several months ago my phone started to throw messages "sd card unexpectedly removed". I bought a replacement card - same thing. I don't actually know whether it's HW or SW issue, because it can work for a day or two, but eventually comes to this error. And it's not only me:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/sd-card-unmounting-t3462752
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/sd-card-major-hardware-problem-t3464949
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/help-sd-card-randomly-unmounting-t3138756
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/help/lg-g3-d850-ejecting-sdcard-marshmallow-t3460538
https://www.reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/5ls0ei/sd_card_unexpectedly_removed_continues_to_unmount/
https://www.reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/4js10i/sd_card_keeps_ejecting/
- And least. Yesterday my phone started dropping WiFi connection.
Lg g3 - is the most unreliable phone i've ever had
I use my phone much. Navigation, notes, RD client ,tv show watching, lots of stuff. My work and life depends on a phone. If yours’s too - avoid LG phones.
some other thoughts:
>Who's forecing you? Buy an iphone
I don't understand your point. Will it make LG better ? Obviously not.
>Any device will have its ups and downs.
The OP is talking about major issues with this phone. These are not just pros and cons. The fact that other phones are not so great doesn't make G3 better. LG G3 still remains bad phone.
>please dont generalise based on just opinions or few out of a larger groups.
It's not just opinions. Take a look to the Help & Troubleshooting section: bootloops, screen death, hard bricks, no sd card - for the past month.
Sheep...
My g3 is the best phone I've owned, still matches up to the newer phones my friends try gloating about..
Specially with custom os on it.. stuck a 6000mah battery in it and never looked back.
Shame you didn't have a good time with yours.
SREEPRAJAY said:
I respect your opinion Sir. Everyone is entitled to their choices and opinions
But please ....please dont generalise based on just opinions or few out of a larger groups.
Any device will have its ups and downs.
I have used LG devices for a very long time and I am completely convinced that their device is very robust and bricking it requires special (shall I call it special stupid skills ) skills
So. please try to be composed and not to spread negativity.
I dont use LG G3 but I know there are brilliant devs here and people who will swear that their devices are working great.
I am not closing this thread on the account of leaving users opinions but plz avoid spreading confusing conflicting biased opinions
Thanks
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i've bricked mine several times in one day
Finally, my G3 is totally dead. Hairdryer/oven methods don't work anymore
I'm the not-so-proud owner of the LG v20 dual SIM phone...and with it, 6 months on...it's STILL lacking a viable root option on 7.0 Nougat and there's not a SQUEAK of support on the development side coming from LG. So, I've turned to this new release. The P10 Plus looks quite attractive as a potential upgrade from me. Here's why, in my books:
- MIMO dual antenna is excellent for COVERAGE concerns/download speeds
- Retains a useful IR blaster (hooray, it's not dead on smartphones afterall!)
- LED notification status indicator/light (User manual page 4 indicates green, red and orange thus far...think I've also seen white)
Then you add the fact that it comes boxed with a case (or even without the cut diamond reduces fingerprints and is a nice feature); it is available in Dual SIM (and also B28 700Mhz frequency; important for me in Australia); it's no bigger than 5.5" - and while it 2K IPS, it more than makes up for the hefty 3750mAh battery drainer with a massive battery. That's enough to convince me to change.
But first things first - viable root. Who is getting this phone? Whats the liklihood, as Huawei did for the P9 Plus, to release the open source kernal for download? Who is going to attempt and develop root for it? If any owners are reading this, PLEASE post a video testing out the NFC and the notification lights (with lightflow, if possible) - that would be super helpful!
P10 Plus HUAWEI Phone support:
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/mobile-phones/huaweip10plus-en-sup.htm
RoOSTA
You realise you've posted in the P10 Plus section?
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You realise you've posted in the P10 Plus section?
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Haha. Thanks. I'll change the heading..
I'm also sitting here with a V20 and boy do I regret getting this phone.. Even though I have root and am able to flash a couple of custom ROMS availlble for my device, I'm still not one bit satisfied with this phone. GPS totally sucks! I'm being navigated to a location and all of the sudden I hear nothing because the app is "looking for GPS signal" and never locks in... This happens in both stock and custom (with updated GPS files)
I'm really attracted to the P10 Plus and am really considering in purchasing the phone. I don't think we'll know about dev until a little bit more time passes as this phone is still a little bit new.
I've come to the P10 Plus from the LG G6, which I REALLY didn't like, and I'm happy to confirm that it's a great device. Superb camera, really nice feel and design (I have the blue diamond cut version), and it's much smoother than the LG in handling tasks. Battery is ok, but I'm still in that new phone, constantly tweaking, phase, so I'll see what happens when I revert back to normal usage. I can definitely recommend getting one if you're on the fence about it.
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I've come to the P10 Plus from the LG G6, which I REALLY didn't like, and I'm happy to confirm that it's a great device. Superb camera, really nice feel and design (I have the blue diamond cut version), and it's much smoother than the LG in handling tasks. Battery is ok, but I'm still in that new phone, constantly tweaking, phase, so I'll see what happens when I revert back to normal usage. I can definitely recommend getting one if you're on the fence about it.
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Thank you! I really appreciate it your input!
Where did you purchase yours from? I'm in the USA, not too sure which version to purchase for full LTE speeds on AT&T hmm
I live and work in China, so not too hard for me to get hold of one here, lol - they're EVERYWHERE at the moment, big push for them before the S8 hits
I picked one up myself. I'm loving the camera, but i haven't made it my daily driver yet as i'm patiently waiting for a new rom and recovery. Almost went with OPPO but they are really locking down their devices.
How do you guys find battery life and standby?
Standby appears to be great. Battery... Not so much. BUT! I'm still in the honeymoon phase with phone, so it is getting used a lot. I'll post again in a few days when I have taught myself not to keep playing with it. The phone too
Love this p10 plus!
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I live and work in China .... they're EVERYWHERE at the moment, big push for them before the S8 hits
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Surprising regional strategy by Huawei....as Samsung is as big as Apple here, yet their AUS region service people and marketing know nothing st all, so that's as good as not even existing. They need to start pushing in countries where LG is doing well, because there's people who will ditch their sh*tty brand and lack of dev support for their models in favour of this phone:
Cocytan said:
I've come to the P10 Plus from the LG G6, which I REALLY didn't like, and I'm happy to confirm that it's a great device ...I can definitely recommend getting one if you're on the fence about it.
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Another unsatisfied LG customer.
xxxrichievxxx said:
I'm also sitting here with a V20 and boy do I regret getting this phone..
I'm really attracted to the P10 Plus and am really considering in purchasing the phone. I don't think we'll know about dev until a little bit more time passes as this phone is still a little bit new.
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Yep! You and me both. Except YOU are enjoying root at the very least...you can't have DUAL SIM and root, so I'm looking to ditch this sooner rather than later.
Anyone able to post any videos of using NFC or the LED notification light? Want to see how either it is to detect and its brightness, etc.
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Standby appears to be great. Battery... Not so much. BUT! I'm still in the honeymoon phase with phone, so it is getting used a lot. I'll post again in a few days when I have taught myself not to keep playing with it. The phone too
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any updates on battery life?
Im lookin at this phone also.. But I need some screen on time shots and battery usage to know how well it fares with the competition. Also how dev friendly is Huawei?? I've never used a Kirin soc before. I have not seen benches on it too. Anyone post any yet?
I had an S7 Edge Qualcomm but screen wanted to get a pink line down it so I sold it off. (I had lineage booting on it) Tried Dual sim LG V20 for a few days.. absolutely hated that phone. So I'm shopping around trying to find my next phone I want to bring Lineage to.
Seems Huawei forums are dead on here until months after release. I wonder how hard it is to employ someone, part time, as a social media marketing expert who jumps on these places, lends their time every so often and PROMOTES their product, PUSHES it to people, COMPARES against the competition. Rather than just waiting for people to spend big dollars to get their hands on it, dislike it (if they do, for whatever reason), and then sell it? There's just no useful information that can be obtained on here yet...
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I am a type of geek who like using a phone for long period of time(3.5years for my original moto g now).
I really like the hi-fi audio recording and quad-dac in the V20,but I am worrying about the software support of the phone.I don't want to stuck with outdated software over years of time to degrade the user experience.(retailers in my cities are selling H990N which cannot unlock BL)
So another alternative - HTC 10,come to my mind with some sacrifices,but come with countless dev support to keep me on par with latest android update.
So which one should I choose???
(they are both selling for about $400 USD in my country)
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I am a type of geek who like using a phone for long period of time(3.5years for my original moto g now).
I really like the hi-fi audio recording and quad-dac in the V20,but I am worrying about the software support of the phone.I don't want to stuck with outdated software over years of time to degrade the user experience.(retailers in my cities are selling H990N which cannot unlock BL)
So another alternative - HTC 10,come to my mind with some sacrifices,but come with countless dev support to keep me on par with latest android update.
So which one should I choose???
(they are both selling for about $400 USD in my country)
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Me personally, as a tinkerer, would go with which ever phone has support for BL unlock. However, if its primarily software support your worrying about the V20 will probably have the same life span as any other top tier smartphone in the same class, if not more. And with the release of Android O, google has confirmed they will stop upgrading the nexus devices first, and will rather update all android devices with updates as they come out. Google is also fighting the many vetting processes that Providers go through before releasing the update to your phones.
TL;DR: Both phones will have support for years to come, google has stopped updating nexus devices exclusively, and if you're worried about BL Unlocks, go with the one that's unlockable.
Edit: Forgot to mention Im almost certain the v20 has better camera hardware & software then the HTC 10 does, but that can be considered an opinion on the internet now a days so, do with it as you will.
Unfortunately Google, OEM's and Carriers mostly dictate what ends up on every phone. And cooperation between the three is often lacking, late, fragmented.
I did my research before getting my V20 so I don't have any expectations regarding newer firmwares, b/l unlock or rooting.
I'll take whatever comes along.
There's very little open development and what there is only covers a few variants.
Although the V20 is a fantastic phone I think you would be better going for the HTC or another similar device.
personally I would go with the v20, no doubt!!
a much better screen (unless you're one of the lucky 10% to find a Sharp panel, the Tianma looks quite awful...), a better dac, even if the aQstic dac on the htc10 isn't a bad choice at all; more ram; v20 was equipped with android N at the launch so my guess is it will be updated to android P
about the custom roms matter: I'm not sure how the dac would behave on a custom rom, so you better check before you decide!
LG V20 with official Android P-ie-in-the-sky
I'm also an optimist, but as there's not even 7.1.1 yet I'm not gona hold my breath.
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LG V20 with official Android P-ie-in-the-sky
I'm also an optimist, but as there's not even 7.1.1 yet I'm not gona hold my breath.
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This is my real concern here as I would definitely keep my device for more than 3 years(unless it gets into hardware bootloop), android updates is something important for me
(I use my tiny moto for so long as it gets 7.1.2 running flawlessly)
However,since I love the feature of V20 so much,it is going to be a tough choice
Yeah it probably is a tough choice. But it is your choice. My suggestion was in reply to your post.
The V20 is one of the best phones I've owned. I knew the state of play before I decided to get it. And I've no regrets.
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LG V20 with official Android P-ie-in-the-sky
I'm also an optimist, but as there's not even 7.1.1 yet I'm not gona hold my breath.
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Lg has never bothered updating to any x.1 release, so I'm quite positive we won't see any 7.1.1 update... As I'm planning to keep this phone for a couple of years I'm hoping Lg will follow his usual 2 major updates policy anyway... we'll see!
. OK, seems you know more about LG's weird ways of doing things than I do. But I'm learning lol.
So, their flagship V20 the first to be released with Nougat out-of-the-box..... then update limbo until whenever they can be arsed....
Marvellous
I'd be happy with a couple of minor updates, at least security patches would be more pertinent.
Personally because you have a removable battery on the v20 I would say go for it.
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Personally because you have a removable battery on the v20 I would say go for it.
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As I'm a careless user who drop the phone more often than anyone else,the removable battery option just makes the phone less durable in drops...
But it has a mil spec drop resistant...
Gosh I can't make any choice?
zack1175 said:
As I'm a careless user who drop the phone more often than anyone else,the removable battery option just makes the phone less durable in drops...
But it has a mil spec drop resistant...
Gosh I can't make any choice?
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The removable battery doesn't affect it's durability, v20 is a bit different in that the back doesn't just pop off there is a button you have to press to remove it. The removable battery won't negatively affect durability.
I think the removable battery is important if you're going to keep your phone long term because the battery is likely the first component to degrade.
As far as updates go LG tends to support their phones for at least one major release (Android O in this case) which is what the majority of manufacturers do.
Google is the only company that tends to support their phones beyond a typical one major release, the Nexus 6 for example has gone from Lollipop (5.x) to Nougat (7.x).
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I say go with the V20 but ONLY after the V30 info has been released. The V30 might be a worthy upgrade so don't throw any money at the V20 yet.
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I say go with the V20 but ONLY after the V30 info has been released. The V30 might be a worthy upgrade so don't throw any money at the V20 yet.
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I can't purchase latest flagship as they are beyond my budget well over $200 USD...
(400USD VS 699USD for brand new phone)
I've dropped my phone 3x, the back pops off but it hasn't affected the phone or battery in any way. The phone only got minor scratches. Anyways, if the spare removable battery ? isn't important to you then get htc. I believe to truly enjoy this phone YOU HAVE TO have a spare battery. Battery life isn't that great but with a spare I don't care. We'll good luck
Yeah removable battery is key if you plan on keeping phone for 2+ years. Disassembling the whole phone just to change the battery as well as resoldering it is going to be a pain unless you are ok with dealing with the lost capacity from the battery due to age.
Resoldering?
Batteries are modular so there's no soldering required.
And many phones aren't all that hard to dismantle for battery access. Teardowns are readily available.
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Resoldering?
Batteries are modular so there's no soldering required.
And many phones aren't all that hard to dismantle for battery access. Teardowns are readily available.
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Could have sworn the Nexus 5x my buddy had was soldered when he went to switch out the battery. Maybe not I don't really remember as it's been awhile. That's pretty nice if so, still a pain having to take it apart compared to to just a couple of seconds to pop off the back of the v20.
Also doing a battery pull can be very helpful sometimes in the modding community when rooting and stuff. I've had to do it a few times on my s4 and note 4 back when I was flashing all sorts of different rooms trying stuff out.
Nexus 5x has a connector most phones use a connector but there are some devices that are soldered so it's not unheard of. The iPod nano battery replacement is an example of a battery that requires soldering.
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Wtf iPod Nano?
Some batteries are connected with a plug.
Some connect via spring contacts - V20 for example.
Modular: easy replacement if required, cuts service labour time etc..
I wonder how many recent devices have hard-wired batteries.