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hdx 8.9 generation 3 4.5.3

Anyone that can be done to this one root and gapps or anything?

ajac said:
Anyone that can be done to this one root and gapps or anything?
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Depends on what you mean. You say 3rd gen, I assume you are talking Apollo, correct? If so, you may be able to roll back to 3.2.8 & from there upgrade to 4.5.2, which can be rooted.

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Depends on what you mean. You say 3rd gen, I assume you are talking Apollo, correct? If so, you may be able to roll back to 3.2.8 & from there upgrade to 4.5.2, which can be rooted.
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Where can I download 3.2.8? All I an find is 3.5.7.6 and then 4+.

ajac said:
Where can I download 3.2.8? All I an find is 3.5.7.6 and then 4+.
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You need to be on 4.5.2 (or lower) to rollback. If your device is at 4.5.3 (or higher) you're stuck with Fire OS and no root. To roll back start here. READ, READ and READ some more. You won't find many tutorials. Don't expect to pull off rollback/upgrade/root/gapps in an evening. HDX is a tough bird; easy to brick with limited recovery options. Do you homework before flashing anything.
Good luck.

Oh never mind. I got them to rollback now rooted with twrp now to try some custom roms

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Oh never mind. I got them to rollback now rooted with twrp now to try some custom roms
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Great! If you post again please include current fw level, etc. Those who responded (including me) assumed you had a newer device and based responses accordingly. Trying to get my head around "got them to rollback" and "now rooted with twrp". Rollbacks usually don't conclude with twrp unless you start at 3.2.6 or below.

Well it was the 3rd generation Apollo with 4.5.3 on it. Contacted customer service told them it had all sorts of issues he went ahead pushed back a roll back to 3.2.8. Then I went ahead and rooted it using the KFHDX toolkit. Originally safestrap wouldn't boot into recovery until I updated it to safestrap-Apollo 3.75-0s3.2.4-b02. Now have twrp was able to flash thro-gapps-installer1.zip. also disabled OT updated.
Current version 14.3.2.8_user328003120
build number date monday december 7 2914 1':19pm mst

ajac said:
Well it was the 3rd generation Apollo with 4.5.3 on it. Contacted customer service told them it had all sorts of issues he went ahead pushed back a roll back to 3.2.8. Then I went ahead and rooted it using the KFHDX toolkit. Originally safestrap wouldn't boot into recovery until I updated it to safestrap-Apollo 3.75-0s3.2.4-b02. Now have twrp was able to flash thro-gapps-installer1.zip. also disabled OT updated.
Current version 14.3.2.8_user328003120
build number date monday december 7 2914 1':19pm mst
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Thanks. Some important tid-bits in your post:
- Amazon rolled back an Apollo (!) which they have been reluctant to do of late. No one has been able to capture the 3.2.8 OTA image which would be a tremendous help to users who are marooned at 4.5.x. While it may be too late can you fire off a PM to @ONYXis as he has a method for capturing the image file? Thanks in advance!
- You referenced 3.2.8 and twrp. Do you mean Safestrap which is derived from twrp? If you indeed have twrp installed with 3.2.8 then you have accomplished something that no one else has!

Davey126 said:
Thanks. Some important tid-bits in your post:
- Amazon rolled back an Apollo (!) which they have been reluctant to do of late. No one has been able to capture the 3.2.8 OTA image which would be a tremendous help to users who are marooned at 4.5.x. While it may be too late can you fire off a PM to @ONYXis as he has a method for capturing the image file? Thanks in advance!
- You referenced 3.2.8 and twrp. Do you mean Safestrap which is derived from twrp? If you indeed have twrp installed with 3.2.8 then you have accomplished something that no one else has!
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The version of safestrap I used was deprived from twrp it looks like but boots into it and lets me flash and put custom roms on. Just fired off my pm and about to do it for him hopefully I can capture it.

Okay had to do it twice but he should have captured it at least one time hope it works for everyone.

ajac said:
Okay had to do it twice but he should have captured it at least one time hope it works for everyone.
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Holly cxxp! I sure hope it worked for the benefit of Apollo users. Thank you so much!!

Davey126 said:
Holly cxxp! I sure hope it worked for the benefit of Apollo users. Thank you so much!!
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lol your welcome! I am just shocked amazon pushed it without to much trouble I guess i said the right thing lol

Android 5.1.1 update available... for Verizon Note Pro 12.2

With 5.1.1, many other changes also coming to tablet. Like, Reactivation Lock, Download booster, etc. and Stagefright fix ofc.
Full changelog at source below.
The build no. is P905VVRUANK5 and P905VVRUBOH1.
-- SOURCE

Would you believe my first VZW Note Pro 12.2 is arriving today? Yes I am late to the party but it's on FedEx truck for delivery now. This is my first Android tablet. You JUST made my day! Wow what timing!
Edit : I hope this is true. Source page gives a not found 404 error
Edit Edit: the URL had an error. Here it is again:
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/andro...y-note-pro-12-2-tablet-rolling-out-now-84315/
I am simply beside myself on the timing of this upgrade.
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Did the upgrade this morning. Bit of a heart stop when it sat at the Verizon screen for about 5 minutes on the reboot, but then it finally brought up the updating apps screen.
Only problem I've found so far is that for some reason, it removed just about every one of my purchased apps. All the free ones were there, but had to go out to the store and re-download all those I had bought. Strange...

Verizon Messenging crashes for me, but if I uninstall the Verizon Messenging app update it will work. Other than that 5.1.1 working thus far.
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How in the world did the Verizon version come out before the wifi?!?! Verizon is NEVER first... They are usually dead last! As with my note 4....still on 5.0.2 several months after the release of 5.1
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Has anyone been able to root or keep root after updating?

Has anyone found where we can download the update from so I can flash it with Odin?

SugeLover said:
Has anyone been able to root or keep root after updating?
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I too am awaiting confirmation on this before updating

I have the update.zip if it will help any devs with root or bootloader unlocking. It seems the update is a 2-parter, I have the the first update which according to the description "prepares your device for the 5.1.1 update." Please contact me if anyone can use it

Due to some new policies at work, Rooted devices weren't allowed to be connected to our E-mail, so I went ahead and took the plunge to 5.1.1 without worrying about rooting (gasp....did I just say that?). Anyhow, this thing feels like a new device. Much smoother, more responsive and it seems that the battery life is actually improved. IF Root does come along for the 5.1.1 update, I may root it and just use one of my other tablets for work, but I'm pleasantly surprised how well the NP runs at this point. Also...REALLY surprised that Verizon actually had the 5.1.1 update.

tdetroit said:
Due to some new policies at work, Rooted devices weren't allowed to be connected to our E-mail, so I went ahead and took the plunge to 5.1.1 without worrying about rooting (gasp....did I just say that?). Anyhow, this thing feels like a new device. Much smoother, more responsive and it seems that the battery life is actually improved. IF Root does come along for the 5.1.1 update, I may root it and just use one of my other tablets for work, but I'm pleasantly surprised how well the NP runs at this point. Also...REALLY surprised that Verizon actually had the 5.1.1 update.
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Can you test the old root method and see if it works? TIA

It does not.

tdetroit said:
It does not.
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Hi - I just got my NP today delivered and got the new OTA update. Can you provide any of the root methods that previously worked for you on the P905v? You stated that your job doesnt allow the rooted device but I am wondering if this one can be rooted still any way? I want to run linux deploy on here to run Fedora or Ubuntu but always end up down a rabbit trail with this setup that I can never get out of
Thanks for any help!

ckozler said:
Hi - I just got my NP today delivered and got the new OTA update. Can you provide any of the root methods that previously worked for you on the P905v? You stated that your job doesnt allow the rooted device but I am wondering if this one can be rooted still any way? I want to run linux deploy on here to run Fedora or Ubuntu but always end up down a rabbit trail with this setup that I can never get out of
Thanks for any help!
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I don't think there's a root yet for the Verizon variant, and I've not actively searched for one at this point. It was needed while the Tablet was on 4.4.2, but 5.1.1 gives me enough control not to worry about it too much right now. Before I used Towelroot, which will NOT work on the new version.

tdetroit said:
It does not.
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tdetroit said:
I don't think there's a root yet for the Verizon variant, and I've not actively searched for one at this point. It was needed while the Tablet was on 4.4.2, but 5.1.1 gives me enough control not to worry about it too much right now. Before I used Towelroot, which will NOT work on the new version.
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Thanks for the feedback!
I have a specific reason to root and thats to use linux deploy so I can have a fully functional Linux OS on my tablet which would be really ideal so I think the root is still required. What control did you gain in upgrading to 5.1.1 ? Linux deploy needs root and SELinux permissive, from what I can tell, to use a loopback device and install the Linux OS there so I think even if I did get root, I'd still need to custom compile a kernel and to that end, I am not too confident in possibly bricking my brand new tablet. For now I seem to be able to settle on a VNC session to a Linux VM I have on DigitalOcean

i'm totally excited that my NP will eventually be updated to 5.1.1 it's just i'm still completely confused on why my stock (no-carrier) branded NP is still on 5.0.1, when Big-Red carrier is rolling out 5.1.1 to their devices.
I think I can smell the money being transferred to Sammy for Bid-Red's propriety rollout.

ckozler said:
Thanks for the feedback!
I have a specific reason to root and thats to use linux deploy so I can have a fully functional Linux OS on my tablet which would be really ideal so I think the root is still required. What control did you gain in upgrading to 5.1.1 ? Linux deploy needs root and SELinux permissive, from what I can tell, to use a loopback device and install the Linux OS there so I think even if I did get root, I'd still need to custom compile a kernel and to that end, I am not too confident in possibly bricking my brand new tablet. For now I seem to be able to settle on a VNC session to a Linux VM I have on DigitalOcean
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I've actually noticed less bloatware, and apps that I couldn't disable before (which is why I rooted so I could get rid of them), I can disable now. I have a 128GB card in it loaded with Music, Books, Images, and on 4.4.2-the device would often F/C which it's no longer doing. I've also noticed that the micro-stutters as I call them, are gone. Everything is a lot smoother.
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lawalty said:
i'm totally excited that my NP will eventually be updated to 5.1.1 it's just i'm still completely confused on why my stock (no-carrier) branded NP is still on 5.0.1, when Big-Red carrier is rolling out 5.1.1 to their devices.
I think I can smell the money being transferred to Sammy for Bid-Red's propriety rollout.
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Trust me friend....I was just as surprised when my Verizon Tablet had the update. I read about it while at work and told my Team Lead that I MUST go home right now, work from home or something, but I gotta leave NOW.

Do I have to throw my Verizon SIM to get the update or can I just keep it on WiFi?

sebastianraven said:
Do I have to throw my Verizon SIM to get the update or can I just keep it on WiFi?
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Mine came over Wifi but I've always had my Verizon SIM in. Not sure if there was a pre-check before downloading.

I'm upgrading my rooted tablet now using Kies (I figure the upgrade is worth risking losing root--but I'm not sure it'll work anyway since I outright deleted Knox). I'll let you know if TR works to re-root, or if I lose root in the first place.
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dot dot dot ... apparently I didn't read the threads above I'm upgrading regardless.

Custom ROM / CM on HD 8?

I am interested, and I am sure others are as well in removing Amazon's bloatware from their decent tablet.
I know the $49 tablet has done it, I am just wondering about compatibility.

It would be so awesome if we got CM-12.1 on the HD 8.

nyln said:
I am interested, and I am sure others are as well in removing Amazon's bloatware from their decent tablet.
I know the $49 tablet has done it, I am just wondering about compatibility.
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It would be so awesome if we got CM-12.1 on the HD 8.
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Would be awesome. Hopping this happens. But before this can happen we would first hear of a custom recovery option for the HD10 like TWRP. Which is more complicated then making a Rom. After that Roms can be next.
Hopefully a couple of good developers can get their hands on some HD10's to get them developing for them. :fingers-crossed:
Note: Missed the part that you where asking about HD8's not HD10's. But since HD10's are the only of the two that are rootable at the moment. I would think the HD10's are more likely to get recovery & Roms.

- I have been looking into the HD8 and HD10
- They seem to use the same firmware - both are codenamed 'thebes'
- All the known exploits have been fixed up by amazon making these devices well locked down
- The devices use the MediaTek 8135 and this has proved very difficult to work with
- The Amazon HD6 uses the same processor and while I was able to get CM-11 working, there were problems with video playback, bluetooth etc
- Getting TWRP to work on these devices has a low probability
- However if we get a working version of FlashFire for these devices then there is a possibility for a custom ROM.

ggow said:
- I have been looking into the HD8 and HD10
- They seem to use the same firmware - both are codenamed 'thebes'
- All the known exploits have been fixed up by amazon making these devices well locked down
- The devices use the MediaTek 8135 and this has proved very difficult to work with
- The Amazon HD6 uses the same processor and while I was able to get CM-11 working, there were problems with video playback, bluetooth etc
- Getting TWRP to work on these devices has a low probability
- However if we get a working version of FlashFire for these devices then there is a possibility for a custom ROM.
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Humn... Wonder if kingroot has ever been tested on the older FW on HD8 since they are the same as HD10's. Don't own one so haven't paid attention to HD8's.
Forgot about FlashFire, which would be great for HD10/HD8. Is there a way to request FlashFire support. Maybe the developer might just need some info/files from us to get it going.

Y314K said:
Humn... Wonder if kingroot has ever been tested on the older FW on HD8 since they are the same as HD10's. Don't own one so haven't paid attention to HD8's.
Forgot about FlashFire, which would be great for HD10/HD8. Is there a way to request FlashFire support. Maybe the developer might just need some info/files from us to get it going.
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I haven't ask Chainfire yet, he's seems to have a lot on his plate.
I can confirm Kingroot works on the HD8 and therefore the HD10.
I don't own either devices but was able to borrow an HD8 for a small amount of time and I managed to gain root access with the latest version of KingRoot.

ggow said:
I haven't ask Chainfire yet, he's seems to have a lot on his plate.
I can confirm Kingroot works on the HD8 and therefore the HD10.
I don't own either devices but was able to borrow an HD8 for a small amount of time and I managed to gain root access with the latest version of KingRoot.
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Please ask Chainfire at least what he would need from us so we can get them ready for him.
I knew HD10 was KingRootable. But did not know about HD8. Thanks for verifying that. I don't even have the HD10 anymore myself. But do have long distance access to it. I gave it to a family member. But I hope to still get CM12.1 or other ROM on it for them to get the full Android experience. Hope it happens.
I do have a few 7"rs here. Thanks a lot for the ROMs you've release for it. :good:

I have had no issues with roots, Kingroot works great on all versions.
I used FlashFire which worked great, didn't need a custom recovery on Fire 7".

I can confirm that root works on the HD8, and I had the latest update

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I can confirm that root works on the HD8, and I had the latest update
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Good to know. So both tablets just need a working FlashFire & then some ROM's...

I have asked Chainfire about Flashfire support here

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I have asked Chainfire about Flashfire support here
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"- The three devices are the Amazon Fire HD6, HD8 and HD10. The HD8 and HD8 share the same firmware." needs to be changed to "- The three devices are the Amazon Fire HD6, HD8 and HD10. The HD10 and HD8 share the same firmware.". Thanks for requesting this. Will add a ditto to that thread.

Y314K said:
"- The three devices are the Amazon Fire HD6, HD8 and HD10. The HD8 and HD8 share the same firmware." needs to be changed to "- The three devices are the Amazon Fire HD6, HD8 and HD10. The HD10 and HD8 share the same firmware.". Thanks for requesting this. Will add a ditto to that thread.
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HD 6 is a 4th generation device
Amazon Fire Tablet Specs https://developer.amazon.com/appsan...ications/01-device-and-feature-specifications
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HD 6 is a 4th generation device
Amazon Fire Tablet Specs https://developer.amazon.com/appsan...ications/01-device-and-feature-specifications
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Ahhh... Had missed that. But the hardware seems to be just about the same on the chart. Hopefully the FW shares as much too.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66356902&postcount=2991
Chainfire said:
In case of issues, immediately after rebooting back into Android:
- Post /sdcard/FlashFire/lastlog
- Post /proc/last_kmsg
The latter may not be present, and is replaced on every reboot. So if you rebooted twice, no sense posting it. Please, post these things to http://pastebin.com/, so I don't need to download and open these files manually.
If you are ready to start messing around with it, this is how you get the BETA:
- Go to: https://play.google.com/apps/testing/eu.chainfire.flash
- Use the link provided on that page to download the app. Note that it may take minutes to even hours before the provided link actually works.
If you have no idea what any of the above means, you might want to wait with playing with this until proper instructions are available, and more people have tested it.
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Chainfire has now responded requesting logs of folks trying to run FlashFire on the three tablets. Instructions about logging is quoted above from the OP @ the FlashFire thread.
I don't have immediate access to the HD10 tablet. So someone else with a HD10 will need to do the testing to get the logs. We will need to find at least one tester per tablet. More then one would be good too.
Guess will need folks with HD6, HD8 & HD10 tablets to ROOT & install FlashFire v31 & try to run it & save both logs to show Chainfire. Make sure you label which tablet, what FirmWare, what KingRoot & which FlashFire version you are using. Let us know which tablet you'll be testing on below.
Addendum: You can get the v31 FlashFire APK from ChainFire's G+ post:
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/8WB78xvY2oM
And check here for future updates:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/chainfire/flashfire/
Just sideload it as an app.

Y314K said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66356902&postcount=2991
Chainfire has now responded requesting logs of folks trying to run FlashFire on the three tablets. Instructions about logging is quoted above from the OP @ the FlashFire thread.
I don't have immediate access to the HD10 tablet. So someone else with a HD10 will need to do the testing to get the logs. We will need to find at least one tester per tablet. More then one would be good too.
Guess will need folks with HD6, HD8 & HD10 tablets to ROOT & install FlashFire v31 & try to run it & save both logs to show Chainfire. Make sure you label which tablet, what FirmWare, what KingRoot & which FlashFire version you are using. Let us know which tablet you'll be testing on below.
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I went to that site, became a tester, clicked on download and got "We're sorry, the requested URL was not found on this server." URL was above + &ah=85V10sckvT5AVUb5tiYpFApIDBs. I have an HD 10.

MyNDIrish said:
I went to that site, became a tester, clicked on download and got "We're sorry, the requested URL was not found on this server." URL was above + &ah=85V10sckvT5AVUb5tiYpFApIDBs. I have an HD 10.
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Great. You can just get FlashFire from ChainFire's G+ post:
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/8WB78xvY2oM
And here for future updates:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/chainfire/flashfire/
Just sideload it as an app.

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I went to that site, became a tester, clicked on download and got "We're sorry, the requested URL was not found on this server." URL was above + &ah=85V10sckvT5AVUb5tiYpFApIDBs. I have an HD 10.
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Never mind. Tried it one more time (after posting (arghhhh!)) and it worked.

OK. I got my fire 8 on Wednesday. (Fire OS 5.0.1 - 5.1.1 downloaded and is waiting for me to install since I turned on WiFi.)
(Fastboot mode is just a black screen, no logo whatsoever, seems to respond to commands.)
Tried a few different root methods. (All failed.)
This afternoon I finally gave in, setup WiFi and used kingroot. After a few reboots, thankfully no auto fire updates, I finally got root os. (No root in adb.)
Installed SuperSU and get stuck updating binary.
FlashFire will not work since I don't have SuperSU or cm permissive.
Help.
How do I get rid of kingroot and install SuperSU?
Note :
I am very uncomfortable using kingroot.
I prefer root methods that do not require online access.

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How do I get rid of kingroot and install SuperSU?
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http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html
install terminal emualtor, download the zip, and run the script
reboot
then wipe cache

5th Gen Fire 7 OS mods, roots and downgrades

PLEASE PROVIDE LINKS TO RELEVANT ARTICLES AND FILES WHEN UPDATING THE SHEET!!!!
I don't know if it's possible to make a chart through the forums, but I was hoping you folks might be able to help me out and other users as well.
I created a Google Doc which has a few versions of the Fire OS listed and whether or not they are rootable, downgradable, can have OTA blocked, get Google Apps and have a replacement launcher.
Maybe it's a silly idea, but I figured I'd give it a shot. The sheet for now is open to all with a link. Please feel free to add more versions, information, links (in the via columns?) to instructions, etc.

5.4.0.1 can be downgraded to 5.4.0.0 https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/fireos-5-4-0-1-downgrade-t3671406

Very good, and overdue, idea.
Some remarks, as I cannot use a Google account:
There's no 5.3.3.3 - you mean 5.3.3.0
Sometimes 5.4.0.0 is referred to as 5.3.4.0 (that's the version string that shows up in several places)
Although "5th gen Fire 7" should be clear enough, please add the "ford" codename in a prominent place
It would be good to collect download links for stock firmware
Is it still worth listing versions < 5.3.2.1? I think so, they are the rootable ones.
Any moderator around? This one deserves to become sticky as soon as the empty cells have been filled.

steve8x8 said:
Very good, and overdue, idea.
Some remarks, as I cannot use a Google account:
There's no 5.3.3.3 - you mean 5.3.3.0
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Yes. Corrected, thanks!
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Sometimes 5.4.0.0 is referred to as 5.3.4.0 (that's the version string that shows up in several places)
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I've only seen 5.4.0.0. I don't find anything with a Google search either.
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Although "5th gen Fire 7" should be clear enough, please add the "ford" codename in a prominent place
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Added Ford to the Top of the post. I'm not sure if you can edit the title.
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It would be good to collect download links for stock firmware
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That's where I am hoping other folks would be able to help.
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Is it still worth listing versions < 5.3.2.1? I think so, they are the rootable ones.
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I think so and for the same reasons. Whether a method comes out to downgrade to a rootable version before 5.3.2.1 or for those that don't want to go beyond for some reason.
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I appreciate it, but I'm not sure how far that will go. Apparently some of the information is encompassed here. It's missing some of the latest information and is not organized in a way for my mind to process it very well. That's not to say it isn't organized, just hard for me to process it.

Greetings,
I want to confirm I'm understanding this spreadsheet correctly. My FireOS is 5.6.2.0, am I able to just pick and downgrade to an earlier firmware version that will allow rooting ? Or do I need to downgrade in the correct order to get back to a rootable earlier version: downgrade 5.6.2.0 > 5.6.0.1 > 5.6.0.0, etc... Or am I just out of luck and stuck with no option to root?

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Or am I just out of luck and stuck with no option to root?
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Correct - no 'downgrade to root' path for 5th-7th gen 7" or 8" Fire devices starting at with any build of FireOS > 5.3.2.0

Davey126 said:
Correct - no 'downgrade to root' path for 5th-7th gen 7" or 8" Fire devices starting at with any build of FireOS > 5.3.2.0
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Okay and one last question, an I able to downgrade at all? From a couple other threads I read it seemed as if downgrading to 5.4 might yield some customization?

Mike The Menace said:
Okay and one last question, an I able to downgrade at all? From a couple other threads I read it seemed as if downgrading to 5.4 might yield some customization?
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Downgrading to 5.4 will allow removal of *some* Amazon bloat with various restrictions. You can also install Google's Play store for access to a wider selection of apps. See relevant threads in the General section for more details.

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Downgrading to 5.4 will allow removal of *some* Amazon bloat with various restrictions. You can also install Google's Play store for access to a wider selection of apps. See relevant threads in the General section for more details.
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Okay but I'm able to downgrade to 5.4 from 5.6.2.0?

Mike The Menace said:
Okay but I'm able to downgrade to 5.4 from 5.6.2.0?
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Best read the relevant threads. Some claim success going directly to 5.4 from 5.6.2. Others take an incremental approach: 5.6.2->5.6.1->5.4.1->5.4.0. I personally believe a direct download is possible and safe but don't have direct experience to back that statement (all my Fire 7's are early 5th gen; rooted and TWRP bootable; most never saw FireOS).

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Best read the relevant threads. Some claim success going directly to 5.4 from 5.6.2. Others take an incremental approach: 5.6.2->5.6.1->5.4.1->5.4.0. I personally believe a direct download is possible and safe but don't have direct experience to back that statement (all my Fire 7's are early 5th gen; rooted and TWRP bootable; most never saw FireOS).
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Ok, thank you so much! I have 2 that my daughters use and was just trying to breathe some new life into them and clear up some space.

kindle fire 7 5th gen. fireos 5.6.2.0 -> downgrade or lineageos ?
Mike The Menace said:
Ok, thank you so much! I have 2 that my daughters use and was just trying to breathe some new life into them and clear up some space.
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Hello Mike,
did you have success? I´m looking for a possibility to get a custom rom on my fire 7 5th gen - do you have any idea if its possible ?
thanks

gauki said:
Hello Mike,
did you have success? I´m looking for a possibility to get a custom rom on my fire 7 5th gen - do you have any idea if its possible ?
thanks
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If your 5th gen device is running FireOS 5.3.2.1 or higher it can not be rooted - hence no custom ROMs. Been that way for 2 years and unlikely to change. The needle isn't moving on this one.

and so...
so no developper can make rooting possible on 5.3.2.1 and upper in the future ?

avatarma said:
so no developper can make rooting possible on 5.3.2.1 and upper in the future ?
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If it were that simple root would have been achieved on these builds long ago. Google and Amazon have closed vulnerabilities that made root exploits easy. While it's possible another weakness will be discovered the chances are quite low IMHO.

you are right , and if that damned bootloader was not locked......so only hopes remains

Is it possible to downgrade from 5.6.2.0 to 5.6.0.1. ?
I am on 5.6.2.0 and i want to try to downgrade to 5.4.0.0 to remove amazon apps. Is there any chance to do it? Sorry for my bad english

Gengis26 said:
Is it possible to downgrade from 5.6.2.0 to 5.6.0.1. ?
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Yes.

Davey126 said:
Yes.
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Ok, can you give me some informations? Is there a thread to understand in which way?

Gengis26 said:
Ok, can you give me some informations? Is there a thread to understand in which way?
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You will need to find a 5.6.2.0 bin (source file). Check the 'debloating' threads as it's probably not directly downloadable via the Amazon support page; only the most recent build is referenced. Note: Amazon also maintains links to all prior builds. Just gotta find the url which is obscure.
Once you have the file it is simple to install via the stock recovery menu. Lots of documentation on that procedure in the Fire forums or via Google search.
Of course, you gotta decide if the benefit is worth the hassle. Probably not.

What's the latest update we can use and not lose root?

I'm not well versed in this realm of rooting, but I've rooted my V20 (H918) and I'd like to update to the latest version possible and not lose root. I think it involves using some kdz file or something and flashing that, is that right? Let me know, thank you.

Wrong, you have to use this @runningnak3d tutorial to go back to root...but so far, even if you are on H91010T, you can roll back and root. ARB has not yet been implemented on this phone, so you're good to use any rooting method you see fit in this forum. Enjoy!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/root-h910-v10m-t3664500

jreed3786 said:
Wrong, you have to use this @runningnak3d tutorial to go back to root...but so far, even if you are on H91010T, you can roll back and root. ARB has not yet been implemented on this phone, so you're good to use any rooting method you see fit in this forum. Enjoy!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/root-h910-v10m-t3664500
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I think you may be responding to the wrong thread? I wasn't asking how to root, I've already rooted my phone. Also, I said I have a H918, not a H91010T.

Mr December said:
I think you may be responding to the wrong thread? I wasn't asking how to root, I've already rooted my phone. Also, I said I have a H918, not a H91010T.
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Oops!!!! LOL! That darn 8 looked like a 0! My bad, bro! LOL. Late night!!!

You can use kdz writter to upgrade to kdz with new security updates. You will not lose root.

jreed3786 said:
Wrong, you have to use this @runningnak3d tutorial to go back to root...but so far, even if you are on H91010T, you can roll back and root. ARB has not yet been implemented on this phone, so you're good to use any rooting method you see fit in this forum. Enjoy!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/root-h910-v10m-t3664500
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Wait i thought ARB was implemented on the lg v20 already, does that mean if i am on H91810Q, (T-Mobile) i don't have ARB yet?

jreed3786 said:
Oops!!!! LOL! That darn 8 looked like a 0! My bad, bro! LOL. Late night!!!
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Haha, it's alright, man.
shomi1417 said:
You can use kdz writter to upgrade to kdz with new security updates. You will not lose root.
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Thank you, I'll research this and see how to go about this.

do not use anything kdz to flash... you will lose root! you need to flash a TWRP flashable zip to update and keep root

dimm0k said:
do not use anything kdz to flash... you will lose root! you need to flash a TWRP flashable zip to update and keep root
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Thank you! That would've been atrocious. Can you point me to a guide that explains this? I'd hate to make a rookie mistake like I would've made and accidentally update the firmware past 10J.

Mr December said:
Thank you! That would've been atrocious. Can you point me to a guide that explains this? I'd hate to make a rookie mistake like I would've made and accidentally update the firmware past 10J.
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I don't know what version of H918 you're on now, but if I'm not mistaken 10k is the last one that you can still mess up and still get root back by downgrading to an earlier version, root and then upgrade. any version after 10k will increment ARB to 1 whereby you will not be able to get root if you lose it. that said, the latest version out now is 10s and if you have root then you should also have TWRP. here's my guide for updating to the latest versions while keep root https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/rom-h91810q-stock-rom-twrp-flashable-zip-t3681312. looking at this now, I haven't posted the 10s update file, which I will do now... keep in mind that if you update to 10s that if you lose TWRP you'll be fscked and stuck without root, which at this point could be permanently.
EDIT: 10s is a go! original post updated with link. also removing the older versions from Google Drive to free up space... if they're still needed, PM

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I don't know what version of H918 you're on now, but if I'm not mistaken 10k is the last one that you can still mess up and still get root back by downgrading to an earlier version, root and then upgrade. any version after 10k will increment ARB to 1 whereby you will not be able to get root if you lose it. that said, the latest version out now is 10s and if you have root then you should also have TWRP. here's my guide for updating to the latest versions while keep root https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/rom-h91810q-stock-rom-twrp-flashable-zip-t3681312. looking at this now, I haven't posted the 10s update file, which I will do now... keep in mind that if you update to 10s that if you lose TWRP you'll be fscked and stuck without root, which at this point could be permanently.
EDIT: 10s is a go! original post updated with link. also removing the older versions from Google Drive to free up space... if they're still needed, PM
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Man that is awesome news! Thank you for linking me to your guide. I will do it tonight when I have the time! My current version is 10J, btw.

Mr December said:
Man that is awesome news! Thank you for linking me to your guide. I will do it tonight when I have the time! My current version is 10J, btw.
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if you're willing to take on the risk then go ahead... I did and am still rooted. just ask questions if you have any doubts

Will this work for the Verizon model?

dimm0k said:
if you're willing to take on the risk then go ahead... I did and am still rooted. just ask questions if you have any doubts
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Hey, I followed the instructions per your thread and successfully installed 10s and kept root! The bad news is that I did a factory reset immediately after and now it keeps bootlooping into TWRP. Any idea how to fix this? Sadly I didn't make a backup because my microsd card was too small and I didn't have the patience to wait til tomorrow and go out and buy one, really hope I didn't kick myself in the ass and brick my phone. :crying:
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I was able to find a fix by following these instructions:
"I had this happen to me after installing TWRP for the first time. It would keep rebooting to TWRP. This was after making sure I flashed SuperSU as well. Eventually in a moment of "might as well see what will happen" I rebooted then held down the power button and volume down. Got to the option if I wanted to factory reset my phone which I did which booted into TWRP. Rebooted to system from there which got me out of the TWRP Bootloop."
I also set my phone up again and can confirm that 10s is still good with root! Thanks for the guide and work, man. Much appreciated!