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Software Update version 51.1.3.0_user_513011520

Amazon has updated their Fire TV Source Code page with a new software package: version 51.1.3.0_user_513011520
I haven't heard of anyone receiving this version in an OTA update yet, but I figured I'd let everyone know to keep an eye out and get the discussion going for the inevitable rollout.

Anyone already stuck without root would probably get that update since they are stuck.
They have no choice anyway unless they still use one of blocking methods.
We might need at least one person to stay on the first unrootable version in case rbox or anyone else could find a new exploit or something.
I wonder,what has changed in this new update anyway?
Edit:Amazon,listen to the users of Fire TV and add support for USB Media Storage.
It probably had a negative effect on sales,especially since the blocked root access which was the only way they could access USB media storage using stickmount.

retroben said:
Anyone already stuck without root would probably get that update since they are stuck.
They have no choice anyway unless they still use one of blocking methods.
We might need at least one person to stay on the first unrootable version in case rbox or anyone else could find a new exploit or something.
I wonder,what has changed in this new update anyway?
Edit:Amazon,listen to the users of Fire TV and add support for USB Media Storage.
It probably had a negative effect on sales,especially since the blocked root access which was the only way they could access USB media storage using stickmount.
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so native enabled usb storage with the update? we need to get that aspect without updating for us rooted users. im kinda tired of the stick mount method. it would be nice to not need it

So this tarball is smaller than the previous, but I can see no difference in it. Quite strange...

retroben said:
Edit:Amazon,listen to the users of Fire TV and add support for USB Media Storage.
It probably had a negative effect on sales,especially since the blocked root access which was the only way they could access USB media storage using stickmount.
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I don't think there was any doubt they would eventually add it. Ouya did the same thing. Originally yhey said it was over security concerns they needed to work out.

lost my root...Help Geohot!!!
Damn it!!! I just lost my root. I totally forgot to disable auto update on my Fire TV cuz was enjoying it all customized to my liking. Totally forgot to hack auto update feature. This sucks!!! :crying: It just happend about 10 min ago. Came back to tv and saw that amazon home screen was on screensaver. Knew that I had left Fire TV on xbmc. Went right to settings to see if box had been updated, and sure enough it was 51.1.3.0_user_513011520. So bummned out ritht now. I have another box that is disabled for auto updates, but this one is back to stock features. XBMC still works, just all root access apps are no longer working. Have to wait for root access to arrive again...Help Geohot!!! We need you!!! Yeah...this sucks.

oscargo29 said:
Damn it!!! I just lost my root. I totally forgot to disable auto update on my Fire TV cuz was enjoying it all customized to my liking. Totally forgot to hack auto update feature. This sucks!!! :crying: It just happend about 10 min ago. Came back to tv and saw that amazon home screen was on screensaver. Knew that I had left Fire TV on xbmc. Went right to settings to see if box had been updated, and sure enough it was 51.1.3.0_user_513011520. So bummned out ritht now. I have another box that is disabled for auto updates, but this one is back to stock features. XBMC still works, just all root access apps are no longer working. Have to wait for root access to arrive again...Help Geohot!!! We need you!!! Yeah...this sucks.
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And I'm assuming you actually tried all the root methods and didn't just assume it wasn't going to work? I know the reports were that 51.1.2.0 didn't allow root, but unless they are lying about their source dump, I see no evidence that they patched the kernel vulnerability.

rbox said:
And I'm assuming you actually tried all the root methods and didn't just assume it wasn't going to work? I know the reports were that 51.1.2.0 didn't allow root, but unless they are lying about their source dump, I see no evidence that they patched the kernel vulnerability.
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What other root method might you be talking about. All I know of is towelroot by geohot. Am i wrong about this being the only root method. I sure hope I'm wrong.

oscargo29 said:
What other root method might you be talking about. All I know of is towelroot by geohot. Am i wrong about this being the only root method. I sure hope I'm wrong.
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I remember people talking about different versions of it.

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I remember people talking about different versions of it.
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I've read that v2 of towelroot does not work on the Fire TV. I personally have not tried v2. I've used both v1 and v3 of towelroot successfully root on 51.1.1.0_user_511070220 and older.

One of my Fire TV's just got the update notification. Unfortunately it's my primary device, so I blocked the update. I'll be trying to get the update on a Fire TV that I don't mind losing root on. WIll report back shortly.
The download URL for the version 51.1.3.0_user_513011520 update is: http://amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuit...ueller-ota-51.1.3.0_user_513011520-signed.bin

Just a bit of clarification as the first mention of USB wasn't clear to me the later posts assumed USB is enabled in this version. Can anyone actually confirm that they have a USB drive working on this latest firmware version?
I just checked for updates and my FireTV is still on 51.1.1.0_user_511070220 with no new updates found. It never updated to the 51.1.2.0 version, was never rooted, updates are not blocked, at least not intentionally.

AFTVnews.com said:
I've read that v2 of towelroot does not work on the Fire TV. I personally have not tried v2. I've used both v1 and v3 of towelroot successfully root on 51.1.1.0_user_511070220 and older.
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When you say older, do you mean older as in update 51.1.2.0_user_512073320. Cuz update 51.1.3.0_user_513011520 is not able to root with towelroot v3. Wishful thinking on my part thinking it will work.
I have rooted 3 Fire TV's. All 3 came with software 51.1.0_user_510047320 and I updated all to 51.1.2.0_user_512073320. I rooted all with towelroot v3. Towelroot v3 no longer worked after update 51.1.3.0_user_513011520. That's the first thing I tested after auto update happened. Towelroot v3 state's "This phone isn't currently supported". So no "rain" for me I'll try to find v1 or v2 of towelroot and see what happens.
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Well that was quick...and painful. Towelroot v1, v2, and v3 are now confirmed by me, to not be able to root Amazon Fire TV.
O'well, I tried.
v1 just halts but was able to press back button and get out. v2 and v3 both say "This phone isn't currently supported". Good thing I have a spare Fire TV
In all honesty, as long as XBMC still runs on Amazon Fire TV, this shouldn't be such a total loss.
But when you get your settings and your customization just right, and then its all gone, it really hurts...a lot. :laugh:
Just got to wait now till further updates on root for this last Fire TV update.
Just a FYI. My first 2 Fire Tv's came from Amazon. 3rd one was from Best Buy. All came with Amazon's 1st firmware put out for this box 51.1.0_user_510047320.
I was expecting latest update when ordered from Amazon for sure. That was weird.
Heads up Everyone. Don't forget to disable OTA update for Amazon Fire TV so you can keep Root Access.
Silly me forgot to follow this big rule.:silly:

I was able to manually install v51.1.3.0_user_513011520 onto a rooted Fire TV that had not received this update.
I can confirm that towelroot v1, v2, and v3 all CAN NOT root the Fire TV running v51.1.3.0_user_513011520. Towelroot v3 reports that the 'phone' is not compatible, while v1 and v2 just sit there frozen when you press "make it rain".
I'm currently going through to determine what has changed with this new update. Please list anything you'd like me to check.

Thanks for checking into this update.

AFTV news:
Please check if the USB port is active and allows access to external storage from XBMC. I don't care if I can root as long as it supports external USB storage... 4TB hopefully

alexb101 said:
Please check if the USB port is active and allows access to external storage from XBMC. I don't care if I can root as long as it supports external USB storage... 4TB hopefully
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I don't know why everyone thinks out of no where Amazon would add USB support...
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Preliminary examination shows that the main bootloader hasn't changed, but the sbl1/2/3 and the rpm images have changed. The image was built on September 5th. It looks like they added german to the recovery. Not sure how it decides german vs english, probably means there is a difference between the english and german versions.

alexb101 said:
AFTV news:
Please check if the USB port is active and allows access to external storage from XBMC. I don't care if I can root as long as it supports external USB storage... 4TB hopefully
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That's a big NO. XBMC does not detect any external storage. I don't think Amazon will give end users this feature.
Only root access will allow this. Hoped might just work, but only way this would work is with root access.
Wishful thinking Amazon will add this feature.
A "no go" for external storage on latest update 51.1.3.0_user_513011520.
Hate being the one know this first hand.

rbox said:
I don't know why everyone thinks out of no where Amazon would add USB support...
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Preliminary examination shows that the main bootloader hasn't changed, but the sbl1/2/3 and the rpm images have changed. The image was built on September 5th. It looks like they added german to the recovery. Not sure how it decides german vs english, probably means there is a difference between the english and german versions.
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Damn, it looks like the german Fire TV will be shipped with the unrootable firmware
Hope we can find a way to get it rooted soon.
Is sideloading still working with this firmware? Without XBMC, this box would be useless for most people.

Xedos9er said:
Damn, it looks like the german Fire TV will be shipped with the unrootable firmware
Hope we can find a way to get it rooted soon.
Is sideloading still working with this firmware? Without XBMC, this box would be useless for most people.
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you dont need root to install xbmc. just sideload the app

SM-T320 March 2015 Firmware Upgrade

I've just installed the latest firmware for the TabPro 8.4; KOT49H.T320XXUBOC1. Disappointingly, it's still 4.4.2 which makes me wonder if we'll ever see a L-pop upgrade. I've only been running it for a half-hour or so but can't notice any difference. I'll report back if there any major problems.

horseycraze said:
I've just installed the latest firmware for the TabPro 8.4; KOT49H.T320XXUBOC1. Disappointingly, it's still 4.4.2 which makes me wonder if we'll ever see a L-pop upgrade. I've only been running it for a half-hour or so but can't notice any difference. I'll report back if there any major problems.
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IPTV or torrent tv, normally plays through mx player ?. Was a bug, half of the screen black
http://forum.xda-developers.com/app...f-screen-black-watching-t3017829#post58842303

That firmware is just for the UK, which I believe went to NI1 last fall about a month before the U.S. went to NK1.
I don't know that I'd read a lot into it. If anything, they could be getting UK firmware better aligned with other locations for a smoother universal upgrade to 5.
Edit: Okay, looks like it's indeed out now for the U.S., too. Still hoping it's progress towards a Lollipop upgrade.

So does anyone actually know what changes this update brought? I was having some issues with my tab pro 8.4 missing touches, i 1st noticed it during gaming but was able to replicate it with display tester multitouch test.
It seems to be fine now, i thought for sure it was a hardware defect but now I'm not so sure. Anyone else in a similar position as me?

Hey there
I m downloading it, but not sure i will apply it .. does it makes root going byebye ? Wanna stay with my device rooted !
thanks

I just downloaded and installed in California. Still 4.4.2 no issues so far.
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+1. Got excited over nothing.
johna2u said:
I just downloaded and installed in California. Still 4.4.2 no issues so far.
Sent from my SM-T320
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Rooted device? Able to root after update?
Thx

Just finished updating and was very disappointed that it's still 4.4.2, I didnt check this forum beforehand so was hoping for a nice surprise.
I hope we see official 5.0 for our devices...

Still. Nothing here! Will we ever get lollipop?

biroot said:
Rooted device? Able to root after update?
Thx
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Without thinking I took the update and lost root. So, I'm searching to see if root is available for the update.

Rooted T320UEU1AOC1
66gt350 said:
Without thinking I took the update and lost root. So, I'm searching to see if root is available for the update.
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I rooted with Chainfire"s CF-Auto-Root for Odin. download.chainfire.eu/383/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-mondrianwifi-mondrianwifixx-smt320.zip (For T320). Main web page here autoroot.chainfire.eu/. As you know To prevent spam on the XDA forums, ALL new users prevented from posting outside links in their messages. After approximately 10 posts, you will be able to post outside links. Thank you for understanding! So don't forget http//:

Rooted i747 said:
I rooted with Chainfire"s CF-Auto-Root for Odin. download.chainfire.eu/383/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-mondrianwifi-mondrianwifixx-smt320.zip (For T320). Main web page here autoroot.chainfire.eu/. As you know To prevent spam on the XDA forums, ALL new users prevented from posting outside links in their messages. After approximately 10 posts, you will be able to post outside links. Thank you for understanding! So don't forget http//:
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Thanks for the quick reply. Reading on the main page, did using the Chainfire's CF-Auto-Root trip the Knox Counter and the custom firmware counter?
thanks

A little bit less lag going from TW to Magazine tiles. Tried removing them with no luck. Hopefully this update sets us up for lollipop.
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66gt350 said:
Thanks for the quick reply. Reading on the main page, did using the Chainfire's CF-Auto-Root trip the Knox Counter and the custom firmware counter?
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It trips knoxs
Ported Note 4 on 3

Anyone try use towelroot method to root T320 without trip knox?
>flashing old kernel
>run towelroot
>flash new kernel again

M4r10 22 said:
Anyone try use towelroot method to root T320 without trip knox?
>flashing old kernel
>run towelroot
>flash new kernel again
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I'm in the process of trying to line up everything to do this. My update that pushed through took me to T320UEU1AOC1. I haven't located the extracted US kernel file for that and unfortunately don't know how to pull it from my current build. Sammobile has an AOC1 file noted as Cellular South and the build time is same date as mine but different timestamp. Anyone know if that would work to get me back to my current build and keep my US region?

horseycraze said:
I've just installed the latest firmware for the TabPro 8.4; KOT49H.T320XXUBOC1. Disappointingly, it's still 4.4.2 which makes me wonder if we'll ever see a L-pop upgrade. I've only been running it for a half-hour or so but can't notice any difference. I'll report back if there any major problems.
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How did you do this? I have mine rooted and have TWRP but can't figure out how to get that stupid Touchwiz back. Any help would be great
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I've just installed the latest firmware for the TabPro 8.4; KOT49H.T320XXUBOC1. Disappointingly, it's still 4.4.2 which makes me wonder if we'll ever see a L-pop upgrade. I've only been running it for a half-hour or so but can't notice any difference. I'll report back if there any major problems.
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Could you put the steps I need in order to what you did here?

I have the Romanian version of the updated ROM on a T325.
The biggest issue I have noticed is with the light sensor, with the previous ROM the auto setting worked smoothly, now with the new ROM the screen doesn't fade continuously. Whenever I turn on the screen the brightness just switches from a higher to a lower setting or inversely (without smooth fading and with lag), also the screen flickers horribly when it detects a change so I can't use the auto anymore.
The second issue is with the Samsung keyboard with learning disabled, in a Facebook floating chat window I tried to respond to someone and the keyboard would auto complete with empty words and after every word I had to delete the word before to be able to write the next word. I had to re-enable the learning to get rid of this very annoying problem.
I will try to downgrade to the previous ROM and root it with towelroot and say goodbye to any future official Samsung updates. Samsung has the ****tiest update developers, actually I had the same problem with the auto light setting (but not so serious) with the ROM which was before the good one.
By the way, if Lollipop comes DON'T UPGRADE. Lollipop on S5 sucks bigtime, the phone has major issues, android eats more battery than the screen.
Stick with the previous ROM, for me it was the most flawless one. I might try a cache wipe on the current ROM but I doubt it has anything to do with the screen flickering.

M4r10 22 said:
Anyone try use towelroot method to root T320 without trip knox?
>flashing old kernel
>run towelroot
>flash new kernel again
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stormygal said:
I'm in the process of trying to line up everything to do this. My update that pushed through took me to T320UEU1AOC1. I haven't located the extracted US kernel file for that and unfortunately don't know how to pull it from my current build. Sammobile has an AOC1 file noted as Cellular South and the build time is same date as mine but different timestamp. Anyone know if that would work to get me back to my current build and keep my US region?
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After losing root when I took the T320UEU1AOC1 update, I was able to flash the T320 kernel in this thread then use Towelroot again. I did have to reboot, even though it told me I wouldn't need to. I uninstalled and reinstalled SuperSU (hit cancel when I got the SuperSU notice about Knox) and verified root with Root Checker Basic. Then installed the AOC1 kernel. I still have root and Knox is not tripped. (KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0; KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x0)

Fire OS 5 developer preview available

DO NOT USE THIS METHOD ANYMORE DUE TO BRICKS WITH LATEST DEV PREVIEW. PLEASE FOLLOW ONE OF @DoLooper 'S GUIDES TO GET OS5.0
Warning: I am not responsible for any damage that may occur. Follow this video at your own risk
Just got an email about the Fire OS 5 developer preview. It's available for the fire HD6 and HD7. It runs lollipop.
developer.amazon.com/public/solutions/platforms/android-fireos?sc_channel=EM&sc_campaign=FireOSPreview&sc_detail=GetPreview
It's downloading now on my device. I'll let you know if I figure anything out.
Edit: Amazing update so far. Much closer to stock android! It even has wallpapers enabled by default. It has a few strange grapgical glitches but nothing to worry about. Many of the apps are stock instead of amazonified. For example the browser and even Launcher are stock aosp. Even the recents activity is aosp. I really do like this. If we never get a custom rom, this will be the best choice as an os.
DO NOT USE METHOD DESCRIBED IN THIS VIDEO ANYMORE DUE TO BRICKS ON LATEST DEV PREVIEW. INSTEAD, DOWNLOAD update-kindle-devpreview_ariel-20.5.2.2_user_522041550.bin FROM forum.xda-developers.com/fire-hd/general/lolipop-ota-capture-t3141810 AND PLACE IT ON THE ROOT OF YOUR SD CARD. THEN GO TO SETTINGS>DEVICE>SYSTEM UPDATES AND PRESS UPDATE etc.
Downgrade Instructions:
1. Download firmware from http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201596860
2. reboot device into recovery via "adb reboot recovery" or by holding power, volume up, volume down all at the same time on boot
3.use volume and power keys to select "apply update from adb"
4.sideload the firmware with "adb sideload update-kindle-20.4.5.3_user_453011120.bin"
5.wipe data/factory reset
6.reboot

Did you install this via TWRP and kept root, or just the regular Amazon update?
How is the speed? Slower than 4.5.x, or about the same?

bibikalka said:
Did you install this via TWRP and kept root, or just the regular Amazon update?
How is the speed? Slower than 4.5.x, or about the same?
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regular amazon update. Seems about the same speed
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powerpoint45 said:
regular amazon update. Seems about the same speed
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So you just gave up on the whole root business ? Back to the Amazon empire for good ?
Amazon probably could not keep up with the changes required for Lollipop 5, and so they are switching to stock versions of stuff. Which is good news for us, those who manage to keep root going forward ! I see the light at the end of the tunnel!

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Edit: Amazing update so far. Much closer to stock android! It even has wallpapers enabled by default. It has a few strange grapgical glitches but nothing to worry about. Many of the apps are stock instead of amazonified. For example the browser and even Launcher are stock aosp. Even the recents activity is aosp. I really do like this. If we never get a custom rom, this will be the best choice as an os
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Sounds incredible! I don't know about developer previews, so just to clarify: Amazon has killed the carousel and is (finally) providing aosp-like launcher that allows wallpaper?!
Are you testing Kingroot yet? lol!
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Some pics

bibikalka said:
So you just gave up on the whole root business ? Back to the Amazon empire for good ?
Amazon probably could not keep up with the changes required for Lollipop 5, and so they are switching to stock versions of stuff. Which is good news for us, those who manage to keep root going forward ! [emoji14] I see the light at the end of the tunnel!
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ya pretty much at least as of now unfortunately. I made the mistake of updating to the 4.x version and lost root so I'm stuck for now
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DoLooper said:
Sounds incredible! I don't know about developer previews, so just to clarify: Amazon has killed the carousel and is (finally) providing aosp-like launcher that allows wallpaper?!
Are you testing Kingroot yet? lol!
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Well at least in the preview. Also I need to check if the amazon Launcher is still disabled. Some reason pm unblock was not working for me earlier. That may have been changed to prevent that stuff.. No KingRoot does not work
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I put up a video if anyone is interested btw
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Kingroot
I tested, and Kingroot unfortunately does not work (which was to be expected).

would it be possible to remove the recovery and bootloader it comes with an flash it to a device with twrp and an unlocked bootloader?

siegesoldier said:
would it be possible to remove the recovery and bootloader it comes with an flash it to a device with twrp and an unlocked bootloader?
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it is only plausible if we can either root this version so we can grab the partition we want, find the direct download to the bin update file, or somehow grab the update file once it's downloaded via otaverify
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All of the Amazon apps crash for me and an error message saying there was an internal error for third party apps is popping up for me. Is anyone else getting the same problem?

Bahamutmaster said:
All of the Amazon apps crash for me and an error message saying there was an internal error for third party apps is popping up for me. Is anyone else getting the same problem?
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I'd sugest doing a factory reset
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considering doing that anyway - the screen is extremely twitchy and seems to react if you simply look at it wrong lol.
but I really like this, and probably won't even try to -> 4.5.3 -> root. agree with the comments about lollipop possibly being different enough they may never try to re-spamazon-ify this OS as hard as they have in the past. (but I'll still keep updates blocked if possible lol)
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oh and good call on speeding up by hitting system update. although surprisingly my did it on its own within minutes of applying for 5.0 on spamazon.
(which is doubly-hilarious, because I had gone through their phone support in an effort to downgrade mine to 4.5.3, and after tens of minutes of trying to convince them that YES IT IS POSSIBLE, they agreed and said it would take up to 24 hours. naturally it never happened, and subsequent calls to try to make it happen were even more painful lol. trying to explain the whole thing again over and over, surprising since obvs they had records/logs of the initial request...)

tarvoke said:
considering doing that anyway - the screen is extremely twitchy and seems to react if you simply look at it wrong lol.
but I really like this, and probably won't even try to -> 4.5.3 -> root. agree with the comments about lollipop possibly being different enough they may never try to re-spamazon-ify this OS as hard as they have in the past. (but I'll still keep updates blocked if possible lol)
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oh and good call on speeding up by hitting system update. although surprisingly my did it on its own within minutes of applying for 5.0 on spamazon.
(which is doubly-hilarious, because I had gone through their phone support in an effort to downgrade mine to 4.5.3, and after tens of minutes of trying to convince them that YES IT IS POSSIBLE, they agreed and said it would take up to 24 hours. naturally it never happened, and subsequent calls to try to make it happen were even more painful lol. trying to explain the whole thing again over and over, surprising since obvs they had records/logs of the initial request...)
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You might wamt to do a factory reset as well. Seems to have fixed some of my issues i've had before in 5.0. Good thing you can downgrade without calling now
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had definitely been considering the reset - thing was getting abominably super-hot and the screen was absolutely not behaving. but next day, it seems to have changed its mind lol. possibly just b/c it cooled down.
I wonder also if some of the weird behavior was due to some spamazon packages still remaining pm-blocked, even after the OS update? obvs a factory reset would clear this, although I could also just use the debloater tool to check. (well, whenever I get a chance to run windows)
also also, can you report any experience with the stock kindle-reader app in this version? (up until now, I have been using the hackified version that I believe you can be thanked for repackaging)
and getting some consistent failures on spamazon-appstore apps, but not all of them. instant video and mp3/music are fine, but xbox-smartglass and spamazon-echo always fail. probably also just indicates need to reset the whole thing...

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I tested, and Kingroot unfortunately does not work (which was to be expected).
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if kingroot didnt work on 4.5.4 why would it work on 5.0 at all. its not like they released 5.0 with the same vulnerable kernel as 4.5.3 and below

off topic, whoops.

ryanyz10 said:
LOL it's worth a shot. You get nowhere if you don't try. Why are you so mad about it??? It didn't affect you in any way, and you didn't have to reply either.
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nobody said i was mad about it, that was just your own assumption, and you didnt have to reply either LOL

January 2, 2017 Software Update

This morning, my Note received a rather large software update that installed without many problems. Most likely certain security updates, but I was surprised to receive it as we are not really "accustomed" to any attention from Samsung for this tablet. Any further comments from anybody else?

I got the same.
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many problems? like what i have it to and i hate updating. anything broke? IR blaster still work? Please and thanks.

Mispelling
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many problems? like what i have it to and i hate updating. anything broke? IR blaster still work? Please and thanks.
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Sorry for the misspelling. I meant to say "without any problems" not "without many problems". In fact, the whole update process was smooth and fast. Everything works fine. I understand, however, that everyone's setup is different and my experience should not be the absolute rule.

Nothing here on my device. Although it might be because I'm in Sweden.

Did anyone see any changes? I dont see/feel anything other than the version number change even the security patch level date remained the same. Is there a changelog somewhere

dingnecros said:
Did anyone see any changes? I dont see/feel anything other than the version number change even the security patch level date remained the same. Is there a changelog somewhere
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I don't see any difference after the update, either. I wonder what it was supposed to have updated?

Maris_ said:
I don't see any difference after the update, either. I wonder what it was supposed to have updated?
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There's a whole new Lollipop firmware on the San mobile firmware site.

Yes...problems
My tablet updated and now the OS boots super slow and then does a soft shutdown and reboots a second time. It takes more than 60 secs to get to the home screen. Anyone know how to uninstall this update?

ADRz said:
This morning, my Note received a rather large software update that installed without many problems. Most likely certain security updates, but I was surprised to receive it as we are not really "accustomed" to any attention from Samsung for this tablet. Any further comments from anybody else?
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I've seen this post for a few days but not had time to respond till now.
I've got an SM-P605v. Haven't seen, or been able to download the update you've mentioned. This may be because I don't use Verizon as my connectivity partner, or it may be that my particular tablet's OS doesn't need the security updates that yours did.

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I've seen this post for a few days but not had time to respond till now.
I've got an SM-P605v. Haven't seen, or been able to download the update you've mentioned. This may be because I don't use Verizon as my connectivity partner, or it may be that my particular tablet's OS doesn't need the security updates that yours did.
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I also have a SM-P605V but have Verizon as my carrier. I got the notification to update today. I don't see anything on VZW site about it nor under the specific SKU on SamMobile (still has 10/15/15 as the last official update). When looking at the SM-P605 model, there are some in the list (even today's date), though they are for non-USA countries.
Even so, it looks like they are still all Android 5.1.1, so it's likely just some minor tweaks. To my understanding, you would need to pop in an activated Verizon SIM to get the update for your specific tablet, as Verizon is the one that issues it. You can also wait until it's posted on SamMobile and manually do it. https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-P605V/
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I think I found the official from Verizon: https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/samsung-galaxy-note-10-2014-update/
Software Version: LMY47X.P605VVRSDPL1
The current software update gives you the most up to date Android™ security patch on your device.
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(I called VZW and she confirmed that it was an Android Security patch, no MM, darnit!)

Kingsman1 said:
I've seen this post for a few days but not had time to respond till now.
I've got an SM-P605v. Haven't seen, or been able to download the update you've mentioned. This may be because I don't use Verizon as my connectivity partner, or it may be that my particular tablet's OS doesn't need the security updates that yours did.
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You should be able to flash this now that Sammobile posted it... https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-P605V/

I got this a couple of days ago - managed to odin flash after I put the wrong file and got the boot loader triangle a day before.
Its extremely stable and the tablets working like a dream - the only issue is no root.
Edit: I noticed a great improvement in battery management and it will charge to 100% from 30% in 4 hours before I flashed the 5.1.1 rom it took nearly 8 hours with a new(second hand) USB Flex connector and nearly 20 hours with the old usb flex connector to go from 30% to 100%.
I really like this tablet - it reminds me so much of my SM-N910F note 4.

You can root the latest firmware and also install twrp. I have a 600.

louvass said:
You can root the latest firmware and also install twrp. I have a 600.
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did it actually do anything? or is it not worth it

graffix31 said:
did it actually do anything? or is it not worth it
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Probably just a security update

Please excuse my silly question but I have P600 with 5.1.1 and never rooted. Do I need to install twrp before I update or it doesn't matter? Updates always make me uneasy with locking bootloader or needing new root methods.

If you just want to update then flash with Odin and the appropriate file. Try looking at sammobile.com for the appropriate rom file.
If you want root then you will need to install a custom recovery using CF auto or Twerp - the latter will NOT work on the SM-605v version as the bootloader is locked and will result in the yellow triangle and stating that the tablet has a strange recovery and that you should see a verizon technician. By installing the recovery you can then update the system or even try out new roms created by the people of this wonderful community.
Rooting will potentially stop business application with built in security from working - i.e. HSBC application, Virgin Media app and Sky Movies apps will not work on rooted phones to name a few.

I updated and rooted and everything is working ok. I had trouble with 64gb Sandisk microsd with "sd card unexpectedly removed" error. Then it mount itself back. Sometime it shows empty and asks to format and sometime it works. Also the lockscreen flicker and that usually when the card error happened. I suspect they are related and it happens only when waking up the device. The card works fine with all my other devices including my note 4 on stock 5.1.1. I'm not sure what caused it because I just used this sd card with the note 10.1 and then updated and rooted all in the same day.
Anyway, I removed the Sandisk and now I'm using 32gb Samsung and it only happened once for maybe 12 hours (could have been 100 times with Sandisk). Also, I don't notice the lockscreen flickering anymore. I will see if this problem comes back or it just that Sandisk doesn't play well my note. I have seen many people here reported similar problem with other Samsung devices for too many reasons. I don't believe file format is the issue but I'm using exFAT.

Official Verizon update???

Hey there, everybody. I'm currently running a manually odexed version of the stock N900VVRUEOF1 firmware, with bootloader unlock, TWRP 2.8.7.0, and am both rooted and running Xposed framework...
Out of nowhere, I see a long-forgotten icon, in my notification tray. It's saying there's a software update available! I wanted to make sure this wasn't some fluke (or to make sure I wasn't dreaming), so I checked out Verizon's update list.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/software-updates/
Lo, and behold! There's an actual, honest-to-goddess update! (Listed as: LRX21V.N900VVRSEPL1)
However, there is little to no information on what it is or does, apart from the ever-vague "latest security updates"...
Fearing a potential planned obsolescence (like the Note 7) or it wrecking my custom root/recovery/bootloader status, I haven't installed it.
I could try to unpack it all and go digging through it, but that takes way more time or energy than I can currently devote to this sort of thing...
Does anybody know what is involved with this update or have any other information as-to what it includes?
Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

Would love to know as well. However I am not rooted nor do I want to.
I was honestly shocked when I saw the notification.
I'm tempted to go through with the update but since I like how I have my phone setup at the moment, im really hesitant to install it.
Would love to hear from anyone that has!

Update...
New update is just a security update for Lollipop.... http://www.galaxynote3update.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3-updates-lrx21v-n900vvrsepl1/
Kancerstick said:
Would love to know as well. However I am not rooted nor do I want to.
I was honestly shocked when I saw the notification.
I'm tempted to go through with the update but since I like how I have my phone setup at the moment, im really hesitant to install it.
Would love to hear from anyone that has!
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New update is just a security update for Lollipop.... http://www.galaxynote3update.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3-updates-lrx21v-n900vvrsepl1/
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Hey there, everybody. I'm currently running a manually odexed version of the stock N900VVRUEOF1 firmware, with bootloader unlock, TWRP 2.8.7.0, and am both rooted and running Xposed framework...
Out of nowhere, I see a long-forgotten icon, in my notification tray. It's saying there's a software update available! I wanted to make sure this wasn't some fluke (or to make sure I wasn't dreaming), so I checked out Verizon's update list.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/software-updates/
Lo, and behold! There's an actual, honest-to-goddess update! (Listed as: LRX21V.N900VVRSEPL1)
However, there is little to no information on what it is or does, apart from the ever-vague "latest security updates"...
Fearing a potential planned obsolescence (like the Note 7) or it wrecking my custom root/recovery/bootloader status, I haven't installed it.
I could try to unpack it all and go digging through it, but that takes way more time or energy than I can currently devote to this sort of thing...
Does anybody know what is involved with this update or have any other information as-to what it includes?
Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
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New update is just a security update for Lollipop.... http://www.galaxynote3update.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3-updates-lrx21v-n900vvrsepl1/
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New update is just a security update for Lollipop.... http://www.galaxynote3update.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3-updates-lrx21v-n900vvrsepl1/
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Thanks for the update, GoNavyMike.
That's about all I could find as well. :-/
In an effort to get a better idea of what has changed, would you have happened to have installed this? If so, would you say that there's any noticeable difference in performance or features, apart from the obvious potential app updates?
I'm all for the performance fixes and whatnot, but I really don't wanna lose root. Does this patch over current root methods, bump the Lollipop build up to 5.1 (sdk21), or anything like that? These are the kinds of things that a number of folks (myself included) are curious about. If you have updated, any insight you might provide would be very valuable!
Thanks for your time!
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Was shocked to see myself.
I'm having trouble to disable the notification.
Tried using disable services from the playstore and unticking system update from Google framework also tried the Disable system updates app for rooted devices. Also the tick mark to hide notifications is grayed out on System Update in applications.
Im running Stock VRUEOF1 with TWRP and rooted.
Any suggestions?

My GF and I both have the Note 3. Mine is rooted and her's is stock, so I told her to go ahead and install it. Yeah, it's just a security update. I decided to update mine and it fails with the 402 error. Likely because I'm rooted. I need to look into deleting the update and blocking OTA.

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Hey so I've got the 900v and it was rooted stock deodexed with a few rom toolbox tweaks. After the updated I was soft bricked - had to revert back to factory with Odin - no fun.

OffTheChainz said:
Was shocked to see myself.
I'm having trouble to disable the notification.
Tried using disable services from the playstore and unticking system update from Google framework also tried the Disable system updates app for rooted devices. Also the tick mark to hide notifications is grayed out on System Update in applications.
Im running Stock VRUEOF1 with TWRP and rooted.
Any suggestions?
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I used titanium backup pro and I froze the software update and it removed the annoying update pop up and stoped the updating from happening.

xm41907 said:
My GF and I both have the Note 3. Mine is rooted and her's is stock, so I told her to go ahead and install it. Yeah, it's just a security update. I decided to update mine and it fails with the 402 error. Likely because I'm rooted. I need to look into deleting the update and blocking OTA.
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Thanks for the heads-up. This is the sort of thing I was worried about. Firstly, whether being rooted would mess with the update (perhaps it's just a partial update...?) and secondly, that I'd be able to keep root.
Assuming that your GF is okay with you borrowing her phone (which IS a rather large assumption, for nearly anybody), would you mind trying to see if current rooting methods still work for the new update?
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Hey so I've got the 900v and it was rooted stock deodexed with a few rom toolbox tweaks. After the updated I was soft bricked - had to revert back to factory with Odin - no fun.
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I'm sorry to hear about having to do the full backup and restore... According to what yourself and xm41907 have posted, it apparently checks for full stock. Not sure how you managed to get as far as you did, but at least we know that this update doesn't play nice with rooted phones.
Performance/security improvements are great and all, but there are plenty of Xposed mods and manual tweaks to take care of that-- as long as there's still root.
If there's anybody who doesn't care whether they have root or not, I'd love to hear if current rooting methods still work after the new update, or if this update patches over or current for exploits.
Disclaimer: If you update, you do so at your own risk. However, we'd love to hear more about the details and any root-related insight.
Thanks, everybody!
Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

NeoHiPPy1980 said:
Assuming that your GF is okay with you borrowing her phone (which IS a rather large assumption, for nearly anybody), would you mind trying to see if current rooting methods still work for the new update?"
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I can ask if she is ok attempting root. I've been out of it since the Verizon Note 3 first got root capability. This brought me back to it seeing the bootloader can be unlocked and roms put on. I'm jazzed to try AryaMod !

I'm worried about what specifically it means by "Security Updates". I'm still on the OLD unlimited data plan. Because of this, I have to use FoxFi to tether as Verizon doesn't allow it. I'm worried this update may block it.
Can anyone confirm FoxFi still bypasses Verizon's tethering check post update? My Note 3 is totally stock, not rooted, and updated to the last patch(before this one).
Thanks!

Gaylo said:
I'm worried about what specifically it means by "Security Updates". I'm still on the OLD unlimited data plan. Because of this, I have to use FoxFi to tether as Verizon doesn't allow it. I'm worried this update may block it.
Can anyone confirm FoxFi still bypasses Verizon's tethering check post update? My Note 3 is totally stock, not rooted, and updated to the last patch(before this one).
Thanks!
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I ran the update over a day ago and FoxFi still works.

RITMan said:
I ran the update over a day ago and FoxFi still works.
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Im in the same boat but I'll wait a while before playing with FoxFi

Gaylo said:
I'm worried about what specifically it means by "Security Updates". I'm still on the OLD unlimited data plan. Because of this, I have to use FoxFi to tether as Verizon doesn't allow it. I'm worried this update may block it.
Can anyone confirm FoxFi still bypasses Verizon's tethering check post update? My Note 3 is totally stock, not rooted, and updated to the last patch(before this one).
Thanks!
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For those wondering...
I went ahead and did the update. Foxfi is still working post update

Thanks everyone for your continued feedback about this update. I am still clinging on to my Note 3. This is most certainly my last subsidized phone on VZW with my UDP.
In any event, I was just as shocked as you guys to see the system update notification. I went straight to Tibackup and froze the "System updates" app, which has tamed the notifications.

I did the update 2 days ago on my non-rooted note 3.
Everything is pretty much the same I dont notice any difference really.
Only thing is it seems my battery life has become worse.

Kancerstick said:
I did the update 2 days ago on my non-rooted note 3.
Everything is pretty much the same I dont notice any difference really.
Only thing is it seems my battery life has become worse.
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That's what I've noticed too maybe we just need to factory reset our phone somebody should test that and give us feedback I haven't noticed anything changed with this update maybe possibly a better signal will update in a couple days and battery light seems to be an affected slightly

teckynerd6249 said:
That's what I've noticed too maybe we just need to factory reset our phone somebody should test that and give us feedback I haven't noticed anything changed with this update maybe possibly a better signal will update in a couple days and battery light seems to be an affected slightly
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Update for everybody with the Note 3 I don't know if it's coincidence or not after updating but when I'm in the YouTube app and have my charger connected to my phone it will say dock is connected really quick and then disappear it will probably do this two or three times a day just wanted to throw this out there and let people know that there might be a bug in the update I will check my USB port and see if it's clean and not damaged

speed_phreak said:
Thanks everyone for your continued feedback about this update. I am still clinging on to my Note 3. This is most certainly my last subsidized phone on VZW with my UDP.
In any event, I was just as shocked as you guys to see the system update notification. I went straight to Tibackup and froze the "System updates" app, which has tamed the notifications.
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Hey Speed_Phreak - thanks for your post, I think I'm on the right track but still having some trouble. After freezing "Security Policy Updates.apk," "Samsung Updates.apk," and performing a restart, the OTA "security update" notification persists. How did you access "system update.apk?"

bprintz44 said:
Hey Speed_Phreak - thanks for your post, I think I'm on the right track but still having some trouble. After freezing "Security Policy Updates.apk," "Samsung Updates.apk," and performing a restart, the OTA "security update" notification persists. How did you access "system update.apk?"
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Freeze "System update".. in titanium backup.