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Just got my Find 5 (few months old with CM 10.1 installed) and according to "CPU Identifier" app, it has a Snapdragon 600 (8064T) processor, a quick Google reveals that Oppo released a Find 5TD in China a few months back with the 600 clocking @ 1.7 Ghz.
Antutu says my max clock speed is 1.512 Ghz though.
Maybe "CPU Indentifier" is telling lies or maybe CM 10 is holding back my processor speed cos it thinks its a Snapdragon S4.
If it was CPU z then it will say that. Same thing happened on my nexus 4.
But I am told some of the oppo find 5s where updated
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Yes, this is possible, due the fact that OPPO has upgraded soms Find 5's. But I thought they where all set on 1.5Ghz, if you want to can install a custom kernel and clock it right to 1.7Ghz.
Just installed CPU Identifier and I've got also a Snapdragon 600! AWESOME!
where did you guys buy your oppo find 5's from? I read that they refreshed it with the snapdragon, but all the places that sell it still list the old specs
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Refr...m-Snapdragon-600-chip-and-Android-4.2_id44879
http://oppostyle.com/home/9-find-5-midnight.html
Actually the updated Find 5 has the same processor as the Nexus 7 (2013), it's an underclocked Snapdragon 600, but on paper it's a S4 Pro Krait 300.
really ? one more thread about it ..... no and no.
Oppo Find 5 is a APQ8064 SoC , which is a Snapdragon S4 Pro
Its not one of those :
APQ8064T
APQ8064AB
APQ8064M
Find5 SoC is the same as Sony Xperia Z. All about the S600 SoC in a find5 is just rumours and have never been proven that it was correct
anders3408 said:
really ? one more thread about it ..... no and no.
Oppo Find 5 is a APQ8064 SoC , which is a Snapdragon S4 Pro
Its not one of those :
APQ8064T
APQ8064AB
APQ8064M
Find5 SoC is the same as Sony Xperia Z. All about the S600 SoC in a find5 is just rumours and have never been proven that it was correct
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Mine has a Snapdragon S4 @ 1.51. I use cpu-z.
With some kernels you should go up to 1.9GHz... but IMHO OC on these devices is useless.
OK did a benchmark on the s5 with antutu. Not bad at 36006. The one thing that surprised me was that it states that it has a snapdragon 800 in it with the same chip number as my tab pro tablet(it got a 34545 but it's also pushing a higher res screen and is only 2.3ghz). I thought it was supposed to have a 801 in it. So I downloaded a few cpu finder apps and they all stated it has a 800 in it?
Not that it really matters as it does anything with out issues, it just puzzled me that's all.
I'm guessing it's just the 801 is new and the apps don't recognize it or the 801 reads the same as the 800? Or it just has the 800 in it?
Anyone know for sure?
"The Moto X introduced the world to always-on voice commands, even when the screen is off. In Lollipop, it is now a built-in feature that's available to any manufacturer. To save battery, the Moto X used a special low power chip to do the hotword detection, which is something the Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 have included too. Burke pegged the Nexus 6's hotword processor as a "Ti C55," the same chip the Moto X uses.
Google's method skips the clunky middle man "hack" that was used in the Moto X, which used one program for the hotword detection and another (Google Search) for the actual command recognition. The Lollipop version uses Google Search for everything, resulting in much faster and less failure-prone voice recognition."
More from the article here: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...talks-to-android-execs-about-the-upcoming-os/
ra990 said:
"The Moto X introduced the world to always-on voice commands, even when the screen is off. In Lollipop, it is now a built-in feature that's available to any manufacturer. To save battery, the Moto X used a special low power chip to do the hotword detection, which is something the Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 have included too. Burke pegged the Nexus 6's hotword processor as a "Ti C55," the same chip the Moto X uses.
Google's method skips the clunky middle man "hack" that was used in the Moto X, which used one program for the hotword detection and another (Google Search) for the actual command recognition. The Lollipop version uses Google Search for everything, resulting in much faster and less failure-prone voice recognition."
More from the article here: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...talks-to-android-execs-about-the-upcoming-os/
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Well, considering both Moto X phones will get 5.0, it should be the same implementation or modified. Also, given how fast Motorola updates now, it's hard to believe they don't already have Lollipop waiting for at LEAST the new X and new G. The original Moto X had KitKat before the Nexus 5, so I think it may get it this time before some older Nexus devices as well. I don't have any proof of this, but Google releases this code ahead of time to the OEMs and there's not much baked into system for Motorola to change. Also, if you've ever used the new Moto X, most of the unique apps have been rolled into one interface and it already has a Material look to it. It's very different from how some of the features are interfaced with in the old Moto X. This leads me to believe that they've already been gearing up for this update. Time will tell.
Does the new moto x use this chip? I thought it used the low power core processor of the 801 snapdragon. If using a separate processor is better then using the SoC then why did Motorola opt to use the SoC on their newest Moto X
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Does the new moto x use this chip? I thought it used the low power core processor of the 801 snapdragon. If using a separate processor is better then using the SoC then why did Motorola opt to use the SoC on their newest Moto X
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No, apparently the Moto X (both year models) use a separate dedicated low powered chip for this purpose. Maybe the built in snapdragon processor is just not as good. The Note 4 claims to have always listening (using the Snapdragon 805 only) and it was not very good when I tried it for about a week. It would be very inconsistent and "always listening" was more like works for a while after the phone turns on then it stops listening until the next time you turn the screen back on. It has some issues with that feature, I noticed it would stop listening after going into deep sleep or when it was connecting/disconnecting with bluetooth devices. A dedicated low power chip is probably just more reliable.
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No, apparently the Moto X (both year models) use a separate dedicated low powered chip for this purpose. Maybe the built in snapdragon processor is just not as good. The Note 4 claims to have always listening (using the Snapdragon 805 only) and it was not very good when I tried it for about a week. It would be very inconsistent and "always listening" was more like works for a while after the phone turns on then it stops listening until the next time you turn the screen back on. It has some issues with that feature, I noticed it would stop listening after going into deep sleep or when it was connecting/disconnecting with bluetooth devices. A dedicated low power chip is probably just more reliable.
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Do you have a link regarding the new moto x having that chip? Most of the reviews I read indicated that new moto x passed off those duties to the snapdragon SoC. I think the reason why motos work so well recognizing your voice is the 4 mics. I think you're right and the reviews are wrong so I agree with you. I'd just like a confirmed link so I can be right as well. I can't wait until ifixit tears downt he moto x and nexus 6.
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Do you have a link regarding the new moto x having that chip? Most of the reviews I read indicated that new moto x passed off those duties to the snapdragon SoC. I think the reason why motos work so well recognizing your voice is the 4 mics. I think you're right and the reviews are wrong so I agree with you. I'd just like a confirmed link so I can be right as well. I can't wait until ifixit tears downt he moto x and nexus 6.
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Well, here's the text from the 2014 Moto X specs on the official Motorola page: "Motorola Mobile Computing System including 2.5GHz Qualcomm® SnapdragonTM 801 with quad-core CPU (MSM 8974-AC), Adreno 330 @ 578 MHz GPU, Natural Language Processor, Contextual Computing Processor" https://www.motorola.com/us/motomak...6M78H3z8ECFYataQodl4gASw#moto-x+1-story-specs
Seems like they're stating it right there, that in addition to the 801, there's a natural language processor and contextual computing processor that, combined, they are calling the Motorola Mobile Computing System.
This is from the AnandTech review of the second gen Moto X: "First, we see the ability to assign new keywords other than “Ok Google Now”, which is nice. I’m not really sure how this is enabled, as based upon some digging Motorola is still using a TI C55x DSP to enable low power hotword detection." http://anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review/2
ra990 said:
Well, here's the text from the 2014 Moto X specs on the official Motorola page: "Motorola Mobile Computing System including 2.5GHz Qualcomm® SnapdragonTM 801 with quad-core CPU (MSM 8974-AC), Adreno 330 @ 578 MHz GPU, Natural Language Processor, Contextual Computing Processor" https://www.motorola.com/us/motomak...6M78H3z8ECFYataQodl4gASw#moto-x+1-story-specs
Seems like they're stating it right there, that in addition to the 801, there's a natural language processor and contextual computing processor that, combined, they are calling the Motorola Mobile Computing System.
This is from the AnandTech review of the second gen Moto X: "First, we see the ability to assign new keywords other than “Ok Google Now”, which is nice. I’m not really sure how this is enabled, as based upon some digging Motorola is still using a TI C55x DSP to enable low power hotword detection." http://anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review/2
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Nice. Thanks for the links.
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Yup, looks like a new variant is coming. With a 64-bit Snapdragon 410 CPU. Kernel sources are already available on OSRC.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=7666&view=1&c=samsung_gt-i9195i_galaxy_s4_mini_plus_4g_lte
It will be supported big guy?? If yes, maybe i could buy it
Probably not by me. The SoC is different, so I would have to own the device myself in order to do a CM bringup.
That chip maybe 64-bit capable but i feel dual krait 300 cpu is miles ahead of quad cortex a53. still s4 mini og is a great midranger.
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What is the model number please ?
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GT-I9195I
why would they make this? s5 mini is out and s6 mini is likely in the works.
GT-i9195I Galaxy S4 Mini Plus 4G LTE
arco68 said:
Yup, looks like a new variant is coming. With a 64-bit Snapdragon 410 CPU. Kernel sources are already available on OSRC.
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GT-i9195I Galaxy S4 Mini Plus 4G LTE
Using
Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 MSM8916, 1200MHz CPU
4x ARM Cortex-A53 MPcore
Qualcomm Adreno 306
instead of
Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 MSM8930AB, 1728MHz CPU
2x Qualcomm Krait 300
Qualcomm Adreno 305
Is it possible to install CyanogenMod I9195 on this device?
Or does it need a different kernel?
Are there benchmarks around for Snapdragon-410?
Are there any differences in performance to be expected?
Thank you.
EDV-Oellinger said:
GT-i9195I Galaxy S4 Mini Plus 4G LTE
Is it possible to install CyanogenMod I9195 on this device?
Or does it need a different kernel?
Are there benchmarks around for Snapdragon-410?
Are there any differences in performance to be expected?
Thank you.
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NO. You cannot install I9195 cyanogenmod onto that.
It uses different chipset and needs its own sources for a ROM/ Kernel.
Benchmark results are pretty much similar. There are many android phones with snap 410 chip.
They get around 20000 to 22000. My S4 mini running lollipop gets 24K to 25K.
And overall similar in performance. Not sure if the 64-bit sd 410 is better than sd 400 when running lollipop.
civicsr2cool said:
why would they make this? s5 mini is out and s6 mini is likely in the works.
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Because those other Mini's are all more massive. The specs for this new S4mini Plus indicate it is only 1 gram over the 107 gm of original S4mini models. My 9190 is about 7 gm below original, thanks to having downsized her battery. Most people probably would not appreciate the lighter weight as much as I do.
new Mod i9195i
Recently I bought this new S4 mini (gt-I9195I). I'm very satisfied with it...
Does anyone build a new/rooted mod for this device? Or where can I buy/request such mod? I also posted an question in the Q/A topic of the S4 mini.
Thanks for your effort.
EDV-Oellinger said:
GT-i9195I Galaxy S4 Mini Plus 4G LTE
Using
Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 MSM8916, 1200MHz CPU
4x ARM Cortex-A53 MPcore
Qualcomm Adreno 306
instead of
Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 MSM8930AB, 1728MHz CPU
2x Qualcomm Krait 300
Qualcomm Adreno 305
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Well, i just found this thread and it appears that my recently purchased S4 mini is i9195i. The phone was advertised as the 2nd spec. (1,7GHz dual core). Is this an ok deal performance wise? Thanks.
Recently my friend and I both bought a S4 mini at the same provider. I got an I9195, he got an I9195i. Performance wise both are very satisfactory. It only seems that the battery of the I9195i lasts (a lot) longer. Don't know if that can be explained by the different processor.
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And another difference: I9195i comes with Android 4.4.4!
Do you have any benchmark scores (Antutu) for the Snapdragon 410 version?
What do you mean by a lot longer? Cand you give some numbers?
nick_white said:
Do you have any benchmark scores (Antutu) for the Snapdragon 410 version?
What do you mean by a lot longer? Cand you give some numbers?
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This is battery drain of my i9195i while barely using the phone. Stock rom, nothing changed, only disabled syncing and 4g.
As for heavy usage it lasts about 2-3 days.
What android is that? Can you provide more pictures? Thanks
berins said:
This is battery drain of my i9195i while barely using the phone. Stock rom, nothing changed, only disabled syncing and 4g.
As for heavy usage it lasts about 2-3 days.
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Is that the stock UI of the I9195i?
ironbg said:
What android is that? Can you provide more pictures? Thanks
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jnvdh06 said:
Is that the stock UI of the I9195i?
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Yes, its stock UI running android 4.4.4 which came with the phone.
Here are some more pics:
berins said:
Yes, its stock UI running android 4.4.4 which came with the phone.
Here are some more pics:
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Wont devs be able to port this to other s4 mini variants?
berins said:
This is battery drain of my i9195i while barely using the phone. Stock rom, nothing changed, only disabled syncing and 4g.
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So 12 days?? That's a lot... The best I could get was something like 7-8 days on a Trend Plus practically without using the phone; everything off, 2G mode, rooted and debloated.
Did you notice any performance related hiccups (maybe when compared to the "old" Krait 300 version)?
I feel kind of bad now that I recently bought a non-i version (the i is still not available locally) and the battery looks so much better...
So I bought Moto X Play. It's a nice phone and a good replacement for my Moto X (2013).
I installed CPU-Z and notice the the 8 cores are always active, even when the phone is just sitting there with the clocks at minimum. There is no cores disabled, ever. At least with the screen on.
Is this the normal behavior of the SoC?
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I believe Motorola has some tweaking to do with the CPU Governor, which may explain why this is happening (I see it too). What's more is that the cores seem to hover around 800-900MHz when just staring at the CPU-Z screen and not doing anything.
Devhux said:
I believe Motorola has some tweaking to do with the CPU Governor, which may explain why this is happening (I see it too). What's more is that the cores seem to hover around 800-900MHz when just staring at the CPU-Z screen and not doing anything.
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On Lenovo Vibe Shot (Z90-7) with the same Snapdragon 615 i have the same situation.
Maybe it's worth asking people who owns some other phones with this cpu how does it behave in their phones?
According to Qualcomm's website those phones are Huawei P8 lite, Alcatel One Touch Idol 3, Oppo R5 and HTC Desire 820.
I'm curious about the behavior of the SD615.
When Motorola release the sources of the kernel, I hope that optimized kernels for this processor will arise with better management of the cores.