"The Moto X introduced the world to always-on voice commands, even when the screen is off. In Lollipop, it is now a built-in feature that's available to any manufacturer. To save battery, the Moto X used a special low power chip to do the hotword detection, which is something the Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 have included too. Burke pegged the Nexus 6's hotword processor as a "Ti C55," the same chip the Moto X uses.
Google's method skips the clunky middle man "hack" that was used in the Moto X, which used one program for the hotword detection and another (Google Search) for the actual command recognition. The Lollipop version uses Google Search for everything, resulting in much faster and less failure-prone voice recognition."
More from the article here: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...talks-to-android-execs-about-the-upcoming-os/
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"The Moto X introduced the world to always-on voice commands, even when the screen is off. In Lollipop, it is now a built-in feature that's available to any manufacturer. To save battery, the Moto X used a special low power chip to do the hotword detection, which is something the Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 have included too. Burke pegged the Nexus 6's hotword processor as a "Ti C55," the same chip the Moto X uses.
Google's method skips the clunky middle man "hack" that was used in the Moto X, which used one program for the hotword detection and another (Google Search) for the actual command recognition. The Lollipop version uses Google Search for everything, resulting in much faster and less failure-prone voice recognition."
More from the article here: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...talks-to-android-execs-about-the-upcoming-os/
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Well, considering both Moto X phones will get 5.0, it should be the same implementation or modified. Also, given how fast Motorola updates now, it's hard to believe they don't already have Lollipop waiting for at LEAST the new X and new G. The original Moto X had KitKat before the Nexus 5, so I think it may get it this time before some older Nexus devices as well. I don't have any proof of this, but Google releases this code ahead of time to the OEMs and there's not much baked into system for Motorola to change. Also, if you've ever used the new Moto X, most of the unique apps have been rolled into one interface and it already has a Material look to it. It's very different from how some of the features are interfaced with in the old Moto X. This leads me to believe that they've already been gearing up for this update. Time will tell.
Does the new moto x use this chip? I thought it used the low power core processor of the 801 snapdragon. If using a separate processor is better then using the SoC then why did Motorola opt to use the SoC on their newest Moto X
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Does the new moto x use this chip? I thought it used the low power core processor of the 801 snapdragon. If using a separate processor is better then using the SoC then why did Motorola opt to use the SoC on their newest Moto X
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No, apparently the Moto X (both year models) use a separate dedicated low powered chip for this purpose. Maybe the built in snapdragon processor is just not as good. The Note 4 claims to have always listening (using the Snapdragon 805 only) and it was not very good when I tried it for about a week. It would be very inconsistent and "always listening" was more like works for a while after the phone turns on then it stops listening until the next time you turn the screen back on. It has some issues with that feature, I noticed it would stop listening after going into deep sleep or when it was connecting/disconnecting with bluetooth devices. A dedicated low power chip is probably just more reliable.
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No, apparently the Moto X (both year models) use a separate dedicated low powered chip for this purpose. Maybe the built in snapdragon processor is just not as good. The Note 4 claims to have always listening (using the Snapdragon 805 only) and it was not very good when I tried it for about a week. It would be very inconsistent and "always listening" was more like works for a while after the phone turns on then it stops listening until the next time you turn the screen back on. It has some issues with that feature, I noticed it would stop listening after going into deep sleep or when it was connecting/disconnecting with bluetooth devices. A dedicated low power chip is probably just more reliable.
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Do you have a link regarding the new moto x having that chip? Most of the reviews I read indicated that new moto x passed off those duties to the snapdragon SoC. I think the reason why motos work so well recognizing your voice is the 4 mics. I think you're right and the reviews are wrong so I agree with you. I'd just like a confirmed link so I can be right as well. I can't wait until ifixit tears downt he moto x and nexus 6.
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Do you have a link regarding the new moto x having that chip? Most of the reviews I read indicated that new moto x passed off those duties to the snapdragon SoC. I think the reason why motos work so well recognizing your voice is the 4 mics. I think you're right and the reviews are wrong so I agree with you. I'd just like a confirmed link so I can be right as well. I can't wait until ifixit tears downt he moto x and nexus 6.
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Well, here's the text from the 2014 Moto X specs on the official Motorola page: "Motorola Mobile Computing System including 2.5GHz Qualcomm® SnapdragonTM 801 with quad-core CPU (MSM 8974-AC), Adreno 330 @ 578 MHz GPU, Natural Language Processor, Contextual Computing Processor" https://www.motorola.com/us/motomak...6M78H3z8ECFYataQodl4gASw#moto-x+1-story-specs
Seems like they're stating it right there, that in addition to the 801, there's a natural language processor and contextual computing processor that, combined, they are calling the Motorola Mobile Computing System.
This is from the AnandTech review of the second gen Moto X: "First, we see the ability to assign new keywords other than “Ok Google Now”, which is nice. I’m not really sure how this is enabled, as based upon some digging Motorola is still using a TI C55x DSP to enable low power hotword detection." http://anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review/2
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Well, here's the text from the 2014 Moto X specs on the official Motorola page: "Motorola Mobile Computing System including 2.5GHz Qualcomm® SnapdragonTM 801 with quad-core CPU (MSM 8974-AC), Adreno 330 @ 578 MHz GPU, Natural Language Processor, Contextual Computing Processor" https://www.motorola.com/us/motomak...6M78H3z8ECFYataQodl4gASw#moto-x+1-story-specs
Seems like they're stating it right there, that in addition to the 801, there's a natural language processor and contextual computing processor that, combined, they are calling the Motorola Mobile Computing System.
This is from the AnandTech review of the second gen Moto X: "First, we see the ability to assign new keywords other than “Ok Google Now”, which is nice. I’m not really sure how this is enabled, as based upon some digging Motorola is still using a TI C55x DSP to enable low power hotword detection." http://anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review/2
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Nice. Thanks for the links.
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I have a Samsung galaxy S4 and i want to switch to a near google experience (I just think the nexus won't do it for me right now)
So how is everybody coping with the moto X's dual core ? I mean does it feel sturdy or lagy ?
No lag at all.
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AliKhater said:
I have a Samsung galaxy S4 and i want to switch to a near google experience (I just think the nexus won't do it for me right now)
So how is everybody coping with the moto X's dual core ? I mean does it feel sturdy or lagy ?
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The CPU really wouldn't generate lag, that's more the GPUs territory and the GPU is the same as the S4 and HTC One. There really isn't any lag.
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I have a Samsung galaxy S4 and i want to switch to a near google experience (I just think the nexus won't do it for me right now)
So how is everybody coping with the moto X's dual core ? I mean does it feel sturdy or lagy ?
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Coping? Nothing to cope with. The Moto X is at least as fast if not faster than the S4. There is significantly less lag and it is as smooth as butter, which you can't really say about the S4. I ditched my S4 for the Moto X and couldn't be happier.
So how is it possibel that a dual core is operating this phone very well with no lag ? what's the point then from the quad cores and the ARM chip race between the other companies if Dual Cores are still in shape ?!
...Do games and apps perform well , operate and open without lag or without being slow with this dual core ?
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So how is it possibel that a dual core is operating this phone very well with no lag ? what's the point then from the quad cores and the ARM chip race between the other companies if Dual Cores are still in shape ?!
...Do games and apps perform well , operate and open without lag or without being slow with this dual core ?
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One word- optimization.
Games perform better seeing as though it's the same GPU but with significantly less pixels to push. Everything else is as fast as can be. Motorola really did an amazing job with this phone and has effectively rendered the whole spec war obsolete.
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So how is it possibel that a dual core is operating this phone very well with no lag ? what's the point then from the quad cores and the ARM chip race between the other companies if Dual Cores are still in shape ?!
...Do games and apps perform well , operate and open without lag or without being slow with this dual core ?
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Well it's the same thing with desktop a huge multicore race then you realize all of 1% of your apps actually benefit from it and on android there's even less multitasking happening. A lot of companies want the numbers despite the fact that they don't really change anything.
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One word- optimization.
Games perform better seeing as though it's the same GPU but with significantly less pixels to push. Everything else is as fast as can be. Motorola really did an amazing job with this phone and has effectively rendered the whole spec war obsolete.
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Yeah I think that the Moto X's quadcore GPU may the factor, that and Google's software expertise hence Motorola has never been a real software company. I saw one review that talked about how Google used the game Riptide GP to showcase the power of the Nexus 7's quadcore CPU and the Moto X runs it like a champ with only dualcore CPU.
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Well it's the same thing with desktop a huge multicore race then you realize all of 1% of your apps actually benefit from it and on android there's even less multitasking happening. A lot of companies want the numbers despite the fact that they don't really change anything.
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We need moar jiggawatts.
The spec war always drove me crazy anyways.
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the X8 chipset have a quad core gpu while most other phones are single core gpus
Yes it's dual core. It's two krait 300 cores essentially a dual core snapdragon 600. The quad core devices rarely call on the other cores. As others have said moto optimized the hell out of the software.
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The gpu is the same as the snapdragon 60p
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Yeah I think that the Moto X's quadcore GPU may the factor, that and Google's software expertise hence Motorola has never been a real software company. I saw one review that talked about how Google used the game Riptide GP to showcase the power of the Nexus 10's quadcore CPU and the Moto X runs it like a champ with only dualcore CPU.
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The nexus 10 is not a quad-core. It's a dual core exynos 5.
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OMG it HAS TO SUCK! ONLY HALF THE CORES!!!!11oneone
ummm no.
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The nexus 10 is not a quad-core. It's a dual core exynos 5.
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You are right, I meant Nexus 7.
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OMG it HAS TO SUCK! ONLY HALF THE CORES!!!!11oneone
ummm no.
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LOL .. so is it safe to say motorola's approach in software to hardware optimization is somehow similar to that of apple ?
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LOL .. so is it safe to say motorola's approach in software to hardware optimization is somehow similar to that of apple ?
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Yes. exactly.
I've said on more than one occasion that this is Android's iPhone.
Very good hardware meets very good software.
But i still think dual core certainly has its limitations. IF you want to have a good 13 mega pixel camera with sensors and image stabilization chips , recording 4k videos, heavy gaming and whatever the heck they are going to invent in the future !
Quad Cores are there just for elimination of any limitations for the innovative side of the smartphones makers. But i hope they still optimize software to hardware as motorola did !
AliKhater said:
But i still think dual core certainly has its limitations. IF you want to have a good 13 mega pixel camera with sensors and image stabilization chips , recording 4k videos, heavy gaming and whatever the heck they are going to invent in the future !
Quad Cores are there just for elimination of any limitations for the innovative side of the smartphones makers. But i hope they still optimize software to hardware as motorola did !
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You should read this, really slow:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...oto-x-specs-q-a/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title
Stop obsessing over the gd number of cores.
Here's a quote from that article (interview with a Moto engineer)
I'll start with the processor technology. For one, we are not using last year's Qualcomm processor. It's this year's processor. It is a dual-core processor, but the thing people have to understand is that in mobile devices, more CPUs don't necessarily mean better or faster devices. In fact, in most instances, no more than two CPUs are being used at any given time. In order to save power, the algorithms controlling the device are often trying to turn off CPUs.
In the stress tests we have conducted on competing devices, we launched 24 Web sites at once on the device, and none of the devices used more than two CPUs at once to do this. So more than 90 percent of the time, the additional "cores" on the CPUs are turned off, so even if you have a quad-core or an octa-core device, not all of that computing power is used at once.
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If I didn't know the specs of either phone, I would say that the X had an octo-core and that my old Note 2 had a dual core. My X is that much faster and makes my Note 2 feel like a snail. My wife has the S4 and this thing runs circles. You will be very pleased with the performance of this phone. Like many people are saying, Motorola just make the spec war obsolete with this phone, it seriously kicks ass.
I am going to put it through some paces and see how it handles games that chug along on my older phones starting with Asphalt 8.
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Hi,
I'm pretty curious why all the current Android Wear devices seem to have such powerful hardware built in.
As far as I can tell, almost all the processing is done on the phone, so the SoC should not need to be so fast and power hungry.
Any ideas on why this is?
My Pebble has about 80Mhz single-core Processor (if I read that correctly) and can do many of the things the Android Wear devices can. Of course this is Apples and Oranges, but I think that even with Touchscreen and everything the processing power is unneccesarily overpowered...
Thanks.
Well, Moto 360 has a less powerful CPU. I think the reason is because these companies don't have the ability to design their own custom chips, other than maybe Samsung (who maybe just hasn't had time yet), so they need to use off the shelf chips that already have the drivers and kernels to run Android.
Older processors (like what's in the moto 360) are larger and more power hungry. Newer SoCs like the Snapdragon 400 used in the G Watch and Gear Live have higher-clocked, more powerful cores, but are manufactured with a smaller 28nm process. Smaller means more performance-per-watt. They disable all of the cores except one, which decreases power draw even more. Underclocking the one remaining core then saves even more power, all the while still performing even better than the old chip.
I seriously think Motorola just had a truck load of those TI processors sitting in a warehouse somewhere and was trying to figure out a way to make some money off them. Here's hoping they get rid of them all before the next hardware revision.
CommanderROR said:
Hi,
I'm pretty curious why all the current Android Wear devices seem to have such powerful hardware built in.
As far as I can tell, almost all the processing is done on the phone, so the SoC should not need to be so fast and power hungry.
Any ideas on why this is?
My Pebble has about 80Mhz single-core Processor (if I read that correctly) and can do many of the things the Android Wear devices can. Of course this is Apples and Oranges, but I think that even with Touchscreen and everything the processing power is unneccesarily overpowered...
Thanks.
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Running lower freq on a powerful cpu is more efficient than running a higher freq on a less powerful cpu
Like what another member have posted, there are perhaps more access to the current stockpile of CPUs which is cheaper than redesigning a new CPU or ordering an out-of-stock CPU (which is costlier)
or we do need to consider the possibility that there is more room for app developers to play with, without having the CPU as a limiting factor.
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Well, Moto 360 has a less powerful CPU. I think the reason is because these companies don't have the ability to design their own custom chips, other than maybe Samsung (who maybe just hasn't had time yet), so they need to use off the shelf chips that already have the drivers and kernels to run Android.
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The processors in other watch are not customer chips, Motorola just decided to say we rather save $10 in building the Moto-360 than letting users have a watch that is more responsive and better on battery life.
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Older processors (like what's in the moto 360) are larger and more power hungry. Newer SoCs like the Snapdragon 400 used in the G Watch and Gear Live have higher-clocked, more powerful cores, but are manufactured with a smaller 28nm process. Smaller means more performance-per-watt. They disable all of the cores except one, which decreases power draw even more. Underclocking the one remaining core then saves even more power, all the while still performing even better than the old chip.
I seriously think Motorola just had a truck load of those TI processors sitting in a warehouse somewhere and was trying to figure out a way to make some money off them. Here's hoping they get rid of them all before the next hardware revision.
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This is the best reply thus far. The only other thing I would add on is that using the older processor has already been proven to lower battery life on a SmartWatch. This article is a great example: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/09/moto-360-review-beautiful-outside-ugly-inside/2/
You'll see there that the Moto 360 has similar overall performance, and lower battery life in the standardized tests he was able to create. This also takes into account his "screen-off" tests with battery life, leading the reviewer to believe the SoC was the culprit.
Thanks.
The other day I was cruising around amazon looking for an unlocked smartphone. I came across the BLU Studio X, the specs were striking similar to the Moto G 2nd gen with some better assets. With The Same 5.0" HD Display (720 x 1280) 294ppi, 8gb internal storage, 1gb of ram, 8mp primary camera [2mp front], and android lollipop. Also with some better assets like: a 1.3Ghz processor vs the 1.2Ghz processor on the G, expandable storage up to 64gb oppose to the 32gb limit on the G, 1080p video recording vs only 720p on The Moto G, 4G HSPA+ (Not Lte), Wi-Fi Direct, Dual Sim and a slightly lager battery of 2100 mAh for about $125 unlocked. But that's not even the phone I wanted to talk about. The real "game changer" here is the BLU Studio C 2015 Edition. Its pack the exact same punch as the BLU Studio X, but just at $99 Unlocked! Did I forget to mention that the BLU Studio C 2015 has a 3,000 mAh battery ?! It must be bulkier than the G right? Wrong! the BLU Studio C 2015 Is Only 9.4mm thick. 1.6 Thinner than the Moto G. Crazy right ? basically if your purchase this device you'll be getting a not-so-Motorola Moto G 2nd gen with slightly better perks and assests and a huge battery.
What am I losing?: The fact that its a Motorola (moto suite), dual front facing speakers, corning gorilla glass 3*, 1ppi
What am I gaining?: a 0.1 clock speed gain, up to 64gb expandable storage, dual sim, 1080p video recording, 4G HSPA+, Wi-Fi Direct, A 930 mAh battery gain, earphones, micro usb charging unit, free case,*comes with screen protector, phone comes in 6 different colors and $79 less you have to spend. ships with lollipop.note (the studio c 2015 has 293ppi)
Don't get me wrong I love the Moto series, but this phone really does put a road block in front of of the Moto G 2nd Gen.
Product website - http://www.bluproducts.com/index.php/studio-c
Purchase the Studio C 2015 - http://www.amazon.com/BLU-5-0-Inch-...TF8&qid=1432047643&sr=8-1&keywords=B00WN7L4IA
And because of MTK you gain no updates ever.
Also mtk performance is lower than snapdragon.
About SD card I've use my transcend 64gb microsd in the moto g and works fine
Its an MTK device, you only will have luck with MTK if you buy an Android One. also the GPU is pretty bad.
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I agree that the qualcomm s4 is better than the MTK
And 64gb sd-cards a well supported by the Moto G. I woudn´t want to change....
It seems to not available here in the Netherlands... Besides Motorola is a much better supported brand!
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Are you sure ? @Lynse. check out the comparison, link - http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com...omm-Snapdragon-400-MSM8226-vs-MediaTek-MT6582
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Are you sure ? @Lynse. check out the comparison, link - http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com...omm-Snapdragon-400-MSM8226-vs-MediaTek-MT6582
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If you are talking about the processor, i was not saying that MTK6582 is has a bad performance, i believe it have the same performance as our Snapdragon 400, or close to it, a little less, can be. As for the GPU, Mali-400 is a pretty bad GPU today, if the site is right, its not even a Mali-400MP2 (the GPU used on the Galaxy S3), Mali-400 was the Galaxy S2 GPU, so its a 4 years old GPU. But i believe its a new version of this GPU, if its not, then its really bad.
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Everybody disregard this thread. I purchased the Studio C and its absolutely terrible, its a bad phone overall. it feels extremely cheap. the screen touch isn't accurate. you can even see the layers within the display. this phone is a gimmick. it looks absolute great on paper for a budget smartphone, but doesn't meet the expectations at all. the only thing that is impressive is the 3,000 mAh battery. nothing else ... I would rather spend $79 more bucks for a phone inessentially the same specs besides the slightly better chipset than save $79 for a deceiving phone that is terrible. you Moto G owners made a great choice, its the best budget smartphone to date.
I've tried out similar devices. The lack of support due to the closed source chip sets is depressing. Always choose a device with open source and good support
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if you need better phone for the same price, look on Amazon Fire Phone ($179 on sale)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone
Gorilla glass 3 alone is worth the extra $ of the Moto G 2014, imo.
well if put like this,then there are a lot of phones with higher specs and low prices than moto
but the thing is that primarily we do not get any good support in lieu of software
build quality is mostly low and even problematic with hardware
So to say I'm happy with my little moto,its quality and devs here:good:
Avoid BLU!
I fell for a Blu phone, it was a Studio 5 I think. It was riddled with bugs and in a year there was not one update. Everyone was clamoring for the kit-kat update they had promised for the phone. The date came and went. Finally, the president of Blu said in an interview that if you want an update just buy a new phone. I bought the moto g and recycled the blu.
Mediatek?
No, thanks...
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I went for a Blu Studio 5.5 last year to replace my windows work phone, support sucked never got the promised Kitkat update, replaced it with a moto g 2014 and never looked back and was one of the first devices to get lollipop.
You want an alternative to a moto G 2014? Buy an asus zenfone 2 for $199 and get way better specs than your blu phone and the moto g 2014 combined nuff said.
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So I bought Moto X Play. It's a nice phone and a good replacement for my Moto X (2013).
I installed CPU-Z and notice the the 8 cores are always active, even when the phone is just sitting there with the clocks at minimum. There is no cores disabled, ever. At least with the screen on.
Is this the normal behavior of the SoC?
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I believe Motorola has some tweaking to do with the CPU Governor, which may explain why this is happening (I see it too). What's more is that the cores seem to hover around 800-900MHz when just staring at the CPU-Z screen and not doing anything.
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I believe Motorola has some tweaking to do with the CPU Governor, which may explain why this is happening (I see it too). What's more is that the cores seem to hover around 800-900MHz when just staring at the CPU-Z screen and not doing anything.
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On Lenovo Vibe Shot (Z90-7) with the same Snapdragon 615 i have the same situation.
Maybe it's worth asking people who owns some other phones with this cpu how does it behave in their phones?
According to Qualcomm's website those phones are Huawei P8 lite, Alcatel One Touch Idol 3, Oppo R5 and HTC Desire 820.
I'm curious about the behavior of the SD615.
When Motorola release the sources of the kernel, I hope that optimized kernels for this processor will arise with better management of the cores.
Ok I just two days ago buy a brand new Moto X Style, my beloved MotoG3 who was root and run with Tesla rom + FireKernel who have a smaller and older battery is consumed so less battery ! It's just insane.
Moto X Style is heating battery like nothing.
I usually wait at least 2 month to be sure the phone I buy don't have trouble, but right now I just want to unlock it and install a real rom....
What do you think ?!
@Vink67 from what I've heard stock moto ROM offers better battery life than any custom.
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@Vink67 from what I've heard stock moto ROM offers better battery life than any custom.
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But I don't understand, battery gone like crazy !! Why ?!
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But I don't understand, battery gone like crazy !! Why ?!
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Thanks to the QuadHD 5.7" display and 64bit processor. Moto X style do have a mediocre battery. But the TurboPower charger makes up for it.
Apart from battery, am sure you gonna love this phone.
I have a Moto G3 was well, it is very efficient with battery life. You do have to think though, you are going from a Snapdragon 410 to an 808 with a larger, higher resolution display.
The 808 has 6 cores instead of 4 and a much more powerful GPU. The 808 is also the big.LITTLE configuration. So you have 4 low power A53 cores and 2 powerful (battery consuming) A57 cores. The difference in power between the two chipsets is immense.
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I have a Moto G3 was well, it is very efficient with battery life. You do have to think though, you are going from a Snapdragon 410 to an 808 with a larger, higher resolution display.
The 808 has 6 cores instead of 4 and a much more powerful GPU. The 808 is also the big.LITTLE configuration. So you have 4 low power A53 cores and 2 powerful (battery consuming) A57 cores. The difference in power between the two chipsets is immense.
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Have you trying custom ROM ?
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Have you trying custom ROM ?
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I have used CM (then LineageOS), and AICP. They can offer some improvements in battery, but I am holding out for official Nougat. I don't find any of the custom ROMs to be as fluid and smooth as stock, so that is what I am using.
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I have used CM (then LineageOS), and AICP. They can offer some improvements in battery, but I am holding out for official Nougat. I don't find any of the custom ROMs to be as fluid and smooth as stock, so that is what I am using.
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Ok thx
I went from a Moto G 2015 to a Moto X Pure (North American version of Style) and that is my only real complaint... the battery life easily cut in half or more. Although some of the reasons for it are listed in previous posts, one is missing, the SD808 SOC's radio is a battery hog especially when signal is not optimal, a mediocre connection will kill your battery especially if you actually make or receive calls, but if you have great signal then it sips battery very efficiently.
The main battery drainers are the 5.7 QHD Super LCD display (this display panel is incredibly inefficient, but beautiful), the SD808's radio, the SD808's architecture (2+4 big.LITTLE setup in this chipset is much less efficient than anticipated, probably why the configuration was dropped), and the poor battery size choice (it should have been 20-33% larger) makes this device seem like a terrible "upgrade" to the Moto G, battery-wise at least, and in that regard it is correct.
But the very things that draw battery are it's strengths... the display is gorgeous, it can be seen clearly in full daylight and is incredibly vibrant and sharp, and side-by-side to the Moto G 2015 it makes it's little brother's display look like an old 20" tube TV vs a 55" 4k UltraHD display. The SOC may not be very battery friendly, but it is much more powerful and it's reception is excellent, even with poor signal it will hold service well, at the cost of battery life (note that Moto did NOT implement Jio VoLTE in this device, and will not, a significant letdown since it is working on similar Moto devices of that generation), and the QuickCharge 2.0 will refill the battery very quickly, around 75-90% in an hour if necessary.
It's kind of like comparing a Chevy Cruze to a Corvette, one is simple, reliable, and very fuel friendly, the other is a performance machine which sucks gas like nobodies business... but they are for different purposes entirely.
As far as custom ROMs go, I have not found one that gives better than near equal to stock... After trying a dozen or so ROMs and kernels, I went back to pure, unrooted, stock and haven't looked back in a few months. It isn't ideal, but until I can get a better all around device it will have to do.
It's been 3 days now I test SlimRom 6.0.1 Build 2 Stable version, the official release on SlimRom.org, not the beta one from a developer in XDA.
And I would say for now it's been pretty good, and better than original ROM.
More battery friendly.
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