Any improvements to Camera? - Wileyfox Storm

Hi,
I'm considering the Wileyfox Storm but reviews I've read really slate the main camera despite the impressive specs. I'm wondering if the problem was a software one and if it's been improved since the reviews came out in Oct/Nov?
Cheers guys.

I think it's a sony 13 mb sensor but it's doesn't have ois so yiu could had a nuce pictures but not always
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[Q] g2 vs z1

Just returning my z1 due to issues with connectivity and poor camera results. How are people finding the g2, especially if they have any hands on experience with the z1 - speed, ui, camera, build etc?
Cheers peops
pinn___________ said:
Just returning my z1 due to issues with connectivity and poor camera results. How are people finding the g2, especially if they have any hands on experience with the z1 - speed, ui, camera, build etc?
Cheers peops
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Just returned my z1 because the camera was shocking and viewing angles are the worse I've ever had on any phone. Just ordered one of these so hopefully it will be an improvement as well
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manook said:
Just returned my z1 because the camera was shocking and viewing angles are the worse I've ever had on any phone. Just ordered one of these so hopefully it will be an improvement as well
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Yeh,,bit put off by no microsd though - may go for Note 3
Z1 viewing angles are bad?
Oh dear.. hasn't Sony learnt from the Z?
I heard it's pretty much the same. 20 mp on crap hw. Giant bezels all around. Very nice materials annoying flaps.
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I had pre-ordered Z1 then read the reviews, regarding its size being close to a Note 3, display being better than z but still not as good as a flagship has to be, then cancelled it and pre-ordered LG G2, the only thing which does not impress me about this phone is the speaker output. But rest, every aspect of this phone is amazing!

Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus - 6GB RAM, Triple Cameras

Hello! Xiaomi Mi5s Plus was launched recently and here are the features: 5.7-inch FHD Screen, Snapdragon 821 CPU, 6GB RAM, and Triple cameras with two rear cameras (source: http://www.chinaphonereview.com/xiaomi-mi5s-plus).
The dual rear cameras is a unique characteristic in which it features a 13MP colored camera and a 13MP black & white camera. I'm not sure how this would translate. But I'm certain the 6GB RAM and Snapdragon 821 processor would definitely provide an excellent performance.
Any thoughts on this smartphone?
If a decent developer community forms and this gets the ability to work on Verizon then I'm sold. But I have to hold out hopes that the Mi5 progress keeps advancing and can easily translate to this device.
toffzter said:
Hello! Xiaomi Mi5s Plus was launched recently and here are the features: 5.7-inch FHD Screen, Snapdragon 821 CPU, 6GB RAM, and Triple cameras with two rear cameras (source: http://www.chinaphonereview.com/xiaomi-mi5s-plus).
The dual rear cameras is a unique characteristic in which it features a 13MP colored camera and a 13MP black & white camera. I'm not sure how this would translate. But I'm certain the 6GB RAM and Snapdragon 821 processor would definitely provide an excellent performance.
Any thoughts on this smartphone?
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Be careful, the mi5s plus cameras are old sony imx258 and not the new imx378 on the mi5s. Also the mi5s plus lacks of ultrasonic fingerprint sensor.
jlmcr87 said:
Be careful, the mi5s plus cameras are old sony imx258 and not the new imx378 on the mi5s. Also the mi5s plus lacks of ultrasonic fingerprint sensor.
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Yah, they gimped the plus so much.. if you like larger phones, neither are good buys. If the plus had 2 x imx378 and ultrasonic, best phone in the world easily, by hardware.
The pixel phones use the imx378, I believe, and the pixel is rated best camera phone by DxO (take with grain of salt as they're apparently biased), but it still shows the prowess of the imx378.
Would the dual rear cameras make any difference in terms of picture quality? How can the additional black & white camera help?
Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.
hkd said:
Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.
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No way to tune camera shots focus after the take like on the Redmi Pro?
I so much want this feature!
strifej said:
Yah, they gimped the plus so much.. if you like larger phones, neither are good buys. If the plus had 2 x imx378 and ultrasonic, best phone in the world easily, by hardware.
The pixel phones use the imx378, I believe, and the pixel is rated best camera phone by DxO (take with grain of salt as they're apparently biased), but it still shows the prowess of the imx378.
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Well, sadly enough that the imx378's sensor is large and I assumed that is why the dual camera setup with that sensor is not achievable.
Same goes to OIS, most probably due to sensor size issues. (Pixel phones have no OIS thou)
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hkd said:
Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.
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Where did you ordered from?
Well, just wait for developers to get their hands on the device~
Device is just too new
hkd said:
Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.
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So how is your experience with Xiaomi Mi5s?
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Would the dual rear cameras make any difference in terms of picture quality? How can the additional black & white camera help?
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From what I've read, but I'm not an expert, the B&W camera should be capable of capturing more light.
So combining images from both cameras it should capture better pictures on low light conditions.
gnazio said:
From what I've read, but I'm not an expert, the B&W camera should be capable of capturing more light.
So combining images from both cameras it should capture better pictures on low light conditions.
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So I guess it will result to much clearer pictures and lesser noise compared to the single color camera. That's nice. :good:
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No way to tune camera shots focus after the take like on the Redmi Pro?
I so much want this feature!
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Now it can do like Redmi Pro with global dev rom 6.12.8 and FreeDcam application can turn on EIS
Xziting said:
Now it can do like Redmi Pro with global dev rom 6.12.8 and FreeDcam application can turn on EIS
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You mean it can do bokeh effect? [emoji3]
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You mean it can do bokeh effect? [emoji3]
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Yep it can do bokeh effect
Wow great! [emoji1]
I saw a screenshot on eu.miui.
Would have bought it if it were sold with that when it came out. Now I have bought a Sony. Probably will wait for the Mi Note Pro 2.
Maybe some would want to post photo samples​ with the latest ROM?
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Maybe some would want to post photo samples​ with the latest ROM?
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I have it and for me there's 2 things that I don't like. MIUI 8 , I'm a stock Android guy I hope somebody bring cm or something like this to this mobile and the other thing it's the camera, it's a camera for me from the beginning of 2015, that perform well in optimal light conditions and in low light even with the stereo option it's not very well.
Conclusion, I'm not a photo guy so there's no problem but I can't support miui even that it runs fast in this mobile. So until we have some development to this mobile I'm going to stay whit my axon 7.
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Maybe some would want to post photo samples​ with the latest ROM?
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Optimal light conditions interior and low light outside
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Don't you like taking photos during daylight?
Yes I do , but almost every 2105/2016 phone does nice or ok photos in daylight.
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comparing to s8 plus and G6

I had a chance to play with thew new Samsung and LG devices. even though they are wider, their screens feel significantly smaller than the Mate 9. Their email software is better than M9 IMHO. Cameras, though not as creative as the M9 benefit from lower aperture (1.7 and 1.8 vs 2.2) which was clear when I took low light shots with them at a Verizon Store.
Anyone else have a chance to do a compare?
I can't stand Samsung bloatware on their devices and am enjoying my near stock Android platform on the Mate9.
Did it have all the typical Samsung apps?
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70challenger said:
I can't stand Samsung bloatware on their devices and am enjoying my near stock Android platform on the Mate9.
Did it have all the typical Samsung apps?
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Talking about huawei and emui, stock is not really an option ?
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dondavis007 said:
Talking about huawei and emui, stock is not really an option ?
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I said near stock and emui doesn't get in my way. Coming from Nexus 6p, I became a Huawei fanboy..?
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I can't stand TouchWiz. I really tried to like it but couldn't get over the look of it. Also hate how they try to push their own apps instead of Googles
G6 S8 will have better cameras and display is optional, CPU performance and overall performance the Mate gonna dominate both, battery life there is no competition, now imagine a Mate 10 with 10nm Kirin 970 and 4500mah or even the same 4000.
For next mate, they have to improve software even more and cameras, F 1.8 like on P10P as well on front, a 13MP f1.8 with OIS would be a killer for accurate selfies under low light.
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I had a chance to play with thew new Samsung and LG devices. even though they are wider, their screens feel significantly smaller than the Mate 9. Their email software is better than M9 IMHO. Cameras, though not as creative as the M9 benefit from lower aperture (1.7 and 1.8 vs 2.2) which was clear when I took low light shots with them at a Verizon Store.
Anyone else have a chance to do a compare?
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Agreed that Huawei's Android Email app is not as good. I personally use Nine ($9.99), I think it is the best email client for Exchange/Active-sync mail. However, Nine doesn't support Google and I used Gmail for that
Hm. I've had all the S Galaxy series. The only one I remained with was the Note 4. Best one overall. The rest, the battery sucks. Simple.
The G6 is good but it's too slow and too stuttery coming from the Mate 9.
Both have better screens....and the Samsung cameras have been rocking since the S3. Huawei will have to catch up there.
I'm with the Mate 9 until the Note 8. And I love Emui. Just love it.
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I'm going to give the S8 a go. That screen really is incredible. The camera in low light was the item that I found most frustrating on the Mate 9. I haven't tried the p10 to see if it's really better in low light. I already miss the Bokeh having returned the mate 9. It's so unique. But low light shots were always far too noisy.

OPO upgrade should I get the 3t or the 5

I'm currently using my soon to be 4 year old Oneplus One and it's approaching the end of its life span. Random reboots, degraded battery life, overheating etc etc. One of the main features I'm wanting from a new phone is a great camera. Not outstanding, just great. The only two phones I'm considering are the 3T and the Oneplus 5. Based on reviews I've seen, pictures on the OPO 5 look better than the 3T's. Besides that, everything else is about the same. Which phone do you guys recommend?
In my opinion, unless you can get a really great deal on the 3T, go with the 5.
Yeah I was thinking the same. I prefer the design of the 5 rather than the 3T's HTC look. The camera seems a bit improved as well so I guess the extra 60 bucks will be worth it.
I had the OP3 (remember: same main camera as the OP3T) and now I have OP5... believe me, it amazing how much OnePlus has improved their flagship, especially in the camera. Photos are a whole new deal with this phone in comparison with the OP3. I think that the great aperture on the main lens and the zoom on the secondary are the perfect package for great low-light shooting and sharp-clear 2x zoom photos in the other hand. Very very happy and surprised with this camera.
Performance it's also better than the OP3, the Snapdragon 835 really bring the mobile experience to a new level.
The only thing that I'm sad about the OP5 is the jelly scroll effect. It's real and it's noticeable. But, to be honest, by the third week of use you'll forget about it as I did.
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I had the OP3 (remember: same main camera as the OP3T) and now I have OP5... believe me, it amazing how much OnePlus has improved their flagship, especially in the camera. Photos are a whole new deal with this phone in comparison with the OP3. I think that the great aperture on the main lens and the zoom on the secondary are the perfect package for great low-light shooting and sharp-clear 2x zoom photos in the other hand. Very very happy and surprised with this camera.
Performance it's also better than the OP3, the Snapdragon 835 really bring the mobile experience to a new level.
The only thing that I'm sad about the OP5 is the jelly scroll effect. It's real and it's noticeable. But, to be honest, by the third week of use you'll forget about it as I did.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll be looking forward to taking a lot of pics with the OP5
take the OP5, excellent specs and price-performance ratio.
If you're planning to keep it for the next 4 years then you with the op5. The camera alone isn't worth the price difference. That being said. I do love my op5. The battery might be smaller but it last really long compare to the 3t, I've gotten 7 hr sot a few times with Heavy ish use. But I do much prefer the look of the 3/3t
Take op5 so far
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dwanchope said:
I'm currently using my soon to be 4 year old Oneplus One and it's approaching the end of its life span. Random reboots, degraded battery life, overheating etc etc. One of the main features I'm wanting from a new phone is a great camera. Not outstanding, just great. The only two phones I'm considering are the 3T and the Oneplus 5. Based on reviews I've seen, pictures on the OPO 5 look better than the 3T's. Besides that, everything else is about the same. Which phone do you guys recommend?
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Oneplus 5 will ensure that you get the latest updates for a much longer time. That includes Andoroid O. I have also sent you a message. Do check your inbox.

OnePlus 3T vs LeEco Le Pro 3 Camera comparison - Why there is huge difference?

Hi guys. I ordered yesterday X720 variant (4GB/32GB gold) from banggod under flash sale (cost me 192 USD) and I cannot wait it to be delivered to me..
So after that, I started some re-search, especially regarding the camera performance and I found out that Le Pro3 actually has ALMOST the same camera sensor like OnePlus 3T, apart from OIS?
OnePlus 3T has a 16MP Type 1/2.8" Sony IMX298 sensor with f/2.0 aperture lens which is the same (correct me if I am wrong) in Le Pro 3. But OnePlus 3T takes really good and better photos in any environment(good light or low light) if to be compared to LePro 3...
So, can we say that OIS and maybe better rom/software in OP3T makes the difference or what? Or LePro 3 has a potential to takes better photos with some custom ported roms or ported camera apps and come closer to quality of OP3T?
I am sorry, if this or a similar thing had already been talked before here. It will be great to hear your comments and opinions.
Have a nice day/week for all!
If you are running it on Stock ROM, try Google Camera 2.7.10 via https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-2-7-010-release/
Le Pro 3 has even better IQ than iPhone 7 just so you know. =D
If custom ROM and especially nougat-based, there is a patched version of latest Google Camera with HDR+ enabled.
When it comes to mobile cameras, it's almost always the imaging processing that makes or breaks a photo quality.
OP3/T does share same hardware specs of the camera lens and sensors with the exception of OIS, but it is the software itself that determines how an image is to be processed.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple basically spends a lot of their R&D budget on the imaging software, because camera qualities are synonymous with quality of the phone.
OnePlus did spend fairly large amount of development into their camera software, and it is very good. OiS helps, of course, but image quality itself is determined via software.
When you're using Google Camera, the game changes, however. Since Google Camera does not use OiS even if you have it, it won't be an advantage with OP3/T. Theoretically, the image when using two identical camera app would be very very similar.
Joms_US said:
If you are running it on Stock ROM, try Google Camera 2.7.10 via https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-2-7-010-release/
Le Pro 3 has even better IQ than iPhone 7 just so you know. =D
If custom ROM and especially nougat-based, there is a patched version of latest Google Camera with HDR+ enabled.
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Thank you. What about this one? Are they not the same apps or different?
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...mera-3-2-045-2821762-30-android-apk-download/
SUMMERBREEZE said:
Thank you. What about this one? Are they not the same apps or different?
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...mera-3-2-045-2821762-30-android-apk-download/
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So far 2.7.01 is the only one that works on Stock ROM.
Joms_US said:
If you are running it on Stock ROM, try Google Camera 2.7.10 via https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-2-7-010-release/
Le Pro 3 has even better IQ than iPhone 7 just so you know. =D
If custom ROM and especially nougat-based, there is a patched version of latest Google Camera with HDR+ enabled.
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rickyoon.vegas said:
When it comes to mobile cameras, it's almost always the imaging processing that makes or breaks a photo quality.
OP3/T does share same hardware specs of the camera lens and sensors with the exception of OIS, but it is the software itself that determines how an image is to be processed.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple basically spends a lot of their R&D budget on the imaging software, because camera qualities are synonymous with quality of the phone.
OnePlus did spend fairly large amount of development into their camera software, and it is very good. OiS helps, of course, but image quality itself is determined via software.
When you're using Google Camera, the game changes, however. Since Google Camera does not use OiS even if you have it, it won't be an advantage with OP3/T. Theoretically, the image when using two identical camera app would be very very similar.
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I just didnt want to open a new thread for this question.
Does stock rom (EUI 5.9 , Marshmallow) supports cam2api? So we can use footej camera, open camera etc?

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