[Q] g2 vs z1 - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just returning my z1 due to issues with connectivity and poor camera results. How are people finding the g2, especially if they have any hands on experience with the z1 - speed, ui, camera, build etc?
Cheers peops

pinn___________ said:
Just returning my z1 due to issues with connectivity and poor camera results. How are people finding the g2, especially if they have any hands on experience with the z1 - speed, ui, camera, build etc?
Cheers peops
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Just returned my z1 because the camera was shocking and viewing angles are the worse I've ever had on any phone. Just ordered one of these so hopefully it will be an improvement as well
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manook said:
Just returned my z1 because the camera was shocking and viewing angles are the worse I've ever had on any phone. Just ordered one of these so hopefully it will be an improvement as well
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Yeh,,bit put off by no microsd though - may go for Note 3

Z1 viewing angles are bad?
Oh dear.. hasn't Sony learnt from the Z?

I heard it's pretty much the same. 20 mp on crap hw. Giant bezels all around. Very nice materials annoying flaps.
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I had pre-ordered Z1 then read the reviews, regarding its size being close to a Note 3, display being better than z but still not as good as a flagship has to be, then cancelled it and pre-ordered LG G2, the only thing which does not impress me about this phone is the speaker output. But rest, every aspect of this phone is amazing!

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Need Suggestions

hi all
i need your suggestions about xperia z1 and gs4 i9500.now a days i am planning to buy phone but i am confused which one should i select between these cells gs4 i9500 or xperia z1?
anybody can suggest me which one is the best between these two cells?
which one is best performance wise?
which one is best camera results wise? i saw pictures and videos both these cells on some forum and i surprised to see that gs4 camera result is better than xperia z1 but how is it possible that gs4 is camera result is better than xperia z1 because xperia z1 has 20 MP camera?
and the last question is that which one is best battery life wise?
Get the LG G2, thats what I'm after. Better cam/sound/screen/battery then the s4 octalag!
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I suggest you wait for Nexus5 (about one week) and buy it.
raomustansar said:
hi all
i need your suggestions about xperia z1 and gs4 i9500.now a days i am planning to buy phone but i am confused which one should i select between these cells gs4 i9500 or xperia z1?
anybody can suggest me which one is the best between these two cells?
which one is best performance wise?
which one is best camera results wise? i saw pictures and videos both these cells on some forum and i surprised to see that gs4 camera result is better than xperia z1 but how is it possible that gs4 is camera result is better than xperia z1 because xperia z1 has 20 MP camera?
and the last question is that which one is best battery life wise?
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putting a 20.7 camera in a phone doesnt mean it will be the sharpest.
a 13 mp camera witha better sensor and better aperture size plus many software improvement and hardware improvement will beat the **** out of 20.7 mp camera.
regardless dont buy an s4 now. its 6 months old. there are newer devices with snapdragon 800 chip out there.
get any one of them
if i were you i would wait a week for nexus 5 and see what it brings.
if nexus 5 didnt impress me i would get a lg g2

is it worth to buy a Note 3 ? i'm so confused someone advice me!!

Hey Guyes
i'm Buying a smartphone next week and really so confused i don't wanna buy a phone then regret , i decided to choose between this two great phones Galaxt N3 and Xperia Z1 let me tell you what i need the phone for :
1- Social* * * *
2- Capturing photos* * * * *
3- Music* * *
4- Gaming* *
5- Browsing (in neccessary) *
"*" in terms of importance
is there a big difference in photo quality between two devices especially in natural photos and night modes ?
the big size of Note 3 is't a comfortable with ordinary using ?
i don't want a fighting replays between two owners i need a specific reasons to choose a one
please help me in choosing and thank you for reading my thread
Regards
jakkahf said:
Hey Guyes
i'm Buying a smartphone next week and really so confused i don't wanna buy a phone then regret , i decided to choose between this two great phones Galaxt N3 and Xperia Z1 let me tell you what i need the phone for :
1- Social* * * *
2- Capturing photos* * * * *
3- Music* * *
4- Gaming* *
5- Browsing (in neccessary) *
"*" in terms of importance
is there a big difference in photo quality between two devices especially in natural photos and night modes ?
the big size of Note 3 is't a comfortable with ordinary using ?
i don't want a fighting replays between two owners i need a specific reasons to choose a one
please help me in choosing and thank you for reading my thread
Regards
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seeing that you rate capturing photos 5 stars... my n3 camera sucks big time. i'm comparing my experience with iphone 4s which i used for 2years, can't speak for xperia. n3 camera is worse in terms of speed and capturing clear and sharp photos in most situations. that's very disappointing considering 4s was 2 years old. sure n3 has impressive specs (4k video no less) but all the specs are useless if it cannot take beautiful photos in most "normal" situations. normal as in day to day casual photos where you don't have to freeze in order to take decent photos.
Well here's my experience with the note 3 and the reason it is the better choice:
1. I think both are equal in the social side cause I don't think anything would change, well maybe that doing Snapchats with the s pen is a lot better hahaha.
2. I don't know about the user above but the quality of my photos is quite superior to everything I've seen our there by FAR, crisp, clear and perfect for me (my previous phones have been the GSIII, GSII, iPhone 4, and other older android phones and this camera is the best). The comparison in GSMArena proves that the Note 3 is better than the Z1 even with the Z1 being 20.1MP.
3. Galaxy note has almost perfect audio output through the jack but I have to admit the speaker sounds loud but kinda weak.
4. More screen real state makes it more suitable for gaming and but have the same processor so the advantage goes to the Note's screen.
5. Same as before, more real state equals better browsing the web.
And we'll the size at starts feels huge, HUGE but after a week my perception sees it as the perfect size as it fits in all my jeans and bags and the screen is marvelous, crisp and bright. Also I've heard that the Z1 although feels more premium it is harder to hold even if it is smaller
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2. Sony a has a dedicated camera button, water proof up to 5 feet of water, better sensor, It takes better than the note 3 and will get better with firmware update. You should check out phone arena camera phone shootout. The z1 is second to the Nokia 1020.
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copualt3 said:
2. Sony a has a dedicated camera button, water proof up to 5 feet of water, better sensor, It takes better than the note 3 and will get better with firmware update. You should check out phone arena camera phone shootout. The z1 is second to the Nokia 1020.
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No flash, then again Flash is for newbies. I have never used a camera flash before, so moot. lol
copualt3 said:
2. Sony a has a dedicated camera button, water proof up to 5 feet of water, better sensor, It takes better than the note 3 and will get better with firmware update. You should check out phone arena camera phone shootout. The z1 is second to the Nokia 1020.
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I believe more in GSMArena as it has proven to not be so biased as PhoneArena and the note 3 got in second place and you can see all the picture comparisons to see it's truly better
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The much better viewing angles/sunlight visibility deterred me from the Sony. That's one thing Samsung does well.
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I believe more in GSMArena as it has proven to not be so biased as PhoneArena and the note 3 got in second place and you can see all the picture comparisons to see it's truly better
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Gsm arena indeed rate the z1 behind the note 3 initially, but the recent z1 update has shown the potent z1 hardware capabilities starting to shine.
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*GalaxyDev* said:
Well here's my experience with the note 3 and the reason it is the better choice:
1. I think both are equal in the social side cause I don't think anything would change, well maybe that doing Snapchats with the s pen is a lot better hahaha.
2. I don't know about the user above but the quality of my photos is quite superior to everything I've seen our there by FAR, crisp, clear and perfect for me (my previous phones have been the GSIII, GSII, iPhone 4, and other older android phones and this camera is the best). The comparison in GSMArena proves that the Note 3 is better than the Z1 even with the Z1 being 20.1MP.
3. Galaxy note has almost perfect audio output through the jack but I have to admit the speaker sounds loud but kinda weak.
4. More screen real state makes it more suitable for gaming and but have the same processor so the advantage goes to the Note's screen.
5. Same as before, more real state equals better browsing the web.
And we'll the size at starts feels huge, HUGE but after a week my perception sees it as the perfect size as it fits in all my jeans and bags and the screen is marvelous, crisp and bright. Also I've heard that the Z1 although feels more premium it is harder to hold even if it is smaller
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i agree with you in browsing gaming cause note 3 got bigger screen size , but in Music i think Xperia Z1 is better you can check the music player of sony it's so cool and the speakers are so clear , in Camera they aren't same check this website (dxomark) sorry can't post a link cause i'm new here , also you can take the best night shots by Xperia Z1 Camera
I don't believe in any of these websites GSMArena , Cnet , etc.... , cause they don't give the Sony devices what they are really worth i think Samsung giving some money to these websites lol
i think i'm going for Xperia Z1 and i wish Sony UI gets update to new Android KitKat SOON !
thank you for replaying
if you view the ph in outdoors often...nothing comes close to note3...the screen is just unbelievable..
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jakkahf said:
Hey Guyes
i'm Buying a smartphone next week and really so confused i don't wanna buy a phone then regret , i decided to choose between this two great phones Galaxt N3 and Xperia Z1 let me tell you what i need the phone for :
1- Social* * * *
2- Capturing photos* * * * *
3- Music* * *
4- Gaming* *
5- Browsing (in neccessary) *
"*" in terms of importance
is there a big difference in photo quality between two devices especially in natural photos and night modes ?
the big size of Note 3 is't a comfortable with ordinary using ?
i don't want a fighting replays between two owners i need a specific reasons to choose a one
please help me in choosing and thank you for reading my thread
Regards
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Hi
TBH, The Camera on the Note 3 is not the Best. It is OK. It does it's job. But compare it to the iPhone or the Sony Xperia, there is a difference. I did hear a lot of the time that there is a preference difference. (Some likes the N3, Others the Sony/iPhones).
Personally, I use my DSLR for some memorable shots and other artsy shots, but in those moments or other situations where it is awkward to bring out my large DSLR camera I would use my Phone camera.
Everywhere else, N3 excels.
In a real time user experience I can tell you that the battery life will not disappoint you. (2 days of batt life with little effort, but a whole day of usage is the norm)
The phone (Personally) does not heat up unless I game in 3D
Gaming is certainly a blast
The screen is very crisp and clear / colorful
USB 3.0 does show improvement under normal 3.0 operations
The specs live up to its name in real time usage.
But if Photo is a highly regarded feature, I would look at the LG G2 or the Sony Xperia or the Nokia 1020
All phones have their ups and downs :victory:
I find my Note 3 very confortable for any use
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1sagain said:
Hi
TBH, The Camera on the Note 3 is not the Best. It is OK. It does it's job. But compare it to the iPhone or the Sony Xperia, there is a difference. I did hear a lot of the time that there is a preference difference. (Some likes the N3, Others the Sony/iPhones).
Personally, I use my DSLR for some memorable shots and other artsy shots, but in those moments or other situations where it is awkward to bring out my large DSLR camera I would use my Phone camera.
Everywhere else, N3 excels.
In a real time user experience I can tell you that the battery life will not disappoint you. (2 days of batt life with little effort, but a whole day of usage is the norm)
The phone (Personally) does not heat up unless I game in 3D
Gaming is certainly a blast
The screen is very crisp and clear / colorful
USB 3.0 does show improvement under normal 3.0 operations
The specs live up to its name in real time usage.
But if Photo is a highly regarded feature, I would look at the LG G2 or the Sony Xperia or the Nokia 1020
All phones have their ups and downs :victory:
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let me tell you something i live in Turkey and there's alot of beautiful views here so i'm gonna use camera all time i know it's a phone not a camera but Xperia Z1 Cam takes a beautiful shoots especially in night that's a point
if you gonna tell me about the battery well Xperia Z1 battery is better i know it's less than Note 3 battery but if u have alook in the display ( bigger screen , Super AM-OLED ) that's all take alot from the Battery even if it's 3200 , also Xperia Z1 have a mode which apply you to use the phone for more than 7 days so i guess Xperia Z1 wins
both screens are great also i don't use USB 3.0 i Prefer WiFi Connections so it won't be useful for me but it's a Great improvement
at the end both devices have a great performance and great touches so i guess it's going to the buyer opinion
Thank you for this beautiful replaying
jakkahf said:
let me tell you something i live in Turkey and there's alot of beautiful views here so i'm gonna use camera all time i know it's a phone not a camera but Xperia Z1 Cam takes a beautiful shoots especially in night that's a point
if you gonna tell me about the battery well Xperia Z1 battery is better i know it's less than Note 3 battery but if u have alook in the display ( bigger screen , Super AM-OLED ) that's all take alot from the Battery even if it's 3200 , also Xperia Z1 have a mode which apply you to use the phone for more than 7 days so i guess Xperia Z1 wins
both screens are great also i don't use USB 3.0 i Prefer WiFi Connections so it won't be useful for me but it's a Great improvement
at the end both devices have a great performance and great touches so i guess it's going to the buyer opinion
Thank you for this beautiful replaying
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If you are going for the sony xperia z1 after weighing your options then go for it friend
I hope what ever you choose in the end it will meet your needs! Good luck!
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Xperia Z1 vs Nexus 5 (UPDATED WITH VIDEO)

I have just got my Nexus 5 few hours ago, and I thought I would give a quick comparison between the Nexus 5 and the Xperia Z1 while waiting for more in depth comparisons from tech sites. I will keep it short and informative.
Look, Feel and size
The Nexus is alot lighter and smaller but the Z1 is more premium. This doesn't mean that the Nexus looks cheap. the Nexus is very good and the Z1 is excellent in the feel but the Nexus is better when looking at the size or weight.
Performance
Benchmarks
I know it means nothing bla bla bla, but people still wants to see them
antutu benchmark X nexus ~26000, Z1 ~35000
quadrant nexus ~8700, Z1 ~21000
sunspider nexus 745ms, Z1 694ms
I am not sure why the nexus 5 scored less (consideribly less for antutu and quadrant) but I think it has to do with ROM stability as the nexus 5 was turned on for the first time few hours ago.
Real life
just done few tests on opening various websites and apps. the Nexus was milliseconds faster on opening almost all websites except one or two where both phones were as fast. However, opening apps were of the same speed for both phones. (keep in mind that the Z1 has alot going in the background while the nexus was clean)
Screen
I tried viewing various photos and videos but couldn't really say which is better. Some photos were better on the Nexus while other were better on the Z1.
the viewing angle were significantly better in the Nexus, but not perfect though.
The brightness of both devices are almost equal.
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Camera
This is quite hard, I do need some more time to say which is better. But initially, the Nexus has better low light image (the images are softer which has advantage of less noise and disadvantage of less details) but the colors are more accurate in the nexus as well. in good light conditions, the Z1 is better in every way.
Speaker
tried playing various sounds in youtube and the Z1 is Alot louder and of better quality than the Nexus.
Battery
I didn't have time to test the battery life of the nexus of course. However, during testing the previous things, the Z1 dropped ~%25 while the Nexus dropped ~%40. Again, I know that the battery tends to get better after couple of charges but the Z1 had lots of apps installed and lots working in the background while the Nexus was clean. Additionally, the Nexus was in airplane mode while the Z1 had the radio working. all in all, I would say the Z1 battery would be better as expected by the battery size and hopefully it will get better after getting 4.4
I should mention that the Nexus 5 was warmer than the Z1 after finishing these tests.
Advantages of the Z1
Better Battery life
Better camera images in good light conditions
Louder speaker
SD card
more premium feel
doesn't get warm as fast
Advantages of the Nexus5
Android 4.4
Better camera images in low light conditions
better viewing angel
smaller and lighter
Both were as good in
Screen quality
Performance
Here is video showing detailed comparision between the Nexus 5 and the Z1 by shem2409 who came up with similar conclusion.
I don't see the nexus 5 significantly better in anyway compared to my Z1 or SGS4. And the 4.4 update doesn't seem to add much (the Z1 doesn't lack anything compared to the nexus 5) 4.3 and 4.4 mostly added performance improvements which won't really benefit us (Z1 users). The Z1 is already powerful enough and I didn't see it lag or stutter not even once. and I couldn't see any differences between the Z1 and Nexus 5 overall performance. 4.4 will benefit low end and mid range phones more than high end ones. We might benefit from battery improvement more than performance improvement.
One more thing...
You did interesting thing but...
4.4 Android is optimised whole lot better than 4.2.2 and you'll get better results when Sony release 4.4 for Z1.
So, if you now think they are similar devices - you can be sure that Z1 powered by KitKat will be faster and smoother than Nexus.
That's all theoretically for now but I'm 100% sure Z1 will become even better device on 4.4...
Sent from my Z1
ahomad said:
I have just got my Nexus 5 few hours ago, and I thought I would give a quick comparison between the Nexus 5 and the Xperia Z1 while waiting for more in depth comparisons from tech sites. I will keep it short and informative.
Look, Feel and size
The Nexus is alot lighter and smaller but the Z1 is more premium. This doesn't mean that the Nexus looks cheap. the Nexus is very good and the Z1 is excellent in the feel but the Nexus is better when looking at the size or weight.
Performance
Benchmarks
I know it means nothing bla bla bla, but people still wants to see them
antutu benchmark X nexus ~26000, Z1 ~35000
quadrant nexus ~8700, Z1 ~21000
sunspider nexus 745ms, Z1 694ms
I am not sure why the nexus 5 scored less (consideribly less for antutu and quadrant) but I think it has to do with ROM stability as the nexus 5 was turned on for the first time few hours ago.
Real life
just done few tests on opening various websites and apps. the Nexus was milliseconds faster on opening almost all websites except one or two where both phones were as fast. However, opening apps were of the same speed for both phones. (keep in mind that the Z1 has alot going in the background while the nexus was clean)
Screen
I tried viewing various photos and videos but couldn't really say which is better. Some photos were better on the Nexus while other were better on the Z1.
the viewing angle were significantly better in the Nexus, but not perfect though.
The brightness is so much better on the Nexus 5. 100% in the Z1 = 40% in the Nexus 5. I am not sure if this because of the recent update which brought the brightness down for the Z1. Anyway, this is not big issue for me, I have my Z1 at 25% all of the time. But again this would probably mean better viewing in sunlight for the Nexus.
Camera
This is quite hard, I do need some more time to say which is better. But initially, the Nexus has better low light image (the images are softer which has advantage of less noise and disadvantage of less details) but the colors are more accurate in the nexus as well. in good light conditions, the Z1 is better in every way.
Speaker
tried playing various sounds in youtube and the Z1 is Alot louder and of better quality than the Nexus.
Battery
I didn't have time to test the battery life of the nexus of course. However, during testing the previous things, the Z1 dropped ~%25 while the Nexus dropped ~%40. Again, I know that the battery tends to get better after couple of charges but the Z1 had lots of apps installed and lots working in the background while the Nexus was clean. Additionally, the Nexus was in airplane mode while the Z1 had the radio working. all in all, I would say the Z1 battery would be better as expected by the battery size and hopefully it will get better after getting 4.4
if anyone wants me to test anything else, please let me know as I will probably be sending this phone tomorrow as I don't see it significantly better in anyway compared to my Z1 or SGS4. And the 4.4 update doesn't seem to add much (the Z1 doesn't lack anything compared to the nexus 5) 4.3 and 4.4 mostly added performance improvements which won't really benefit us (Z1 users). The Z1 is already powerful enough and I didn't see it lag or stutter not even once. and I couldn't see any differences between the Z1 and Nexus 5 overall performance. 4.4 will benefit low end and mid range phones more than high end ones. We might benefit from battery improvement more than performance improvement.
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Thanks for the review/... It seemed to confirm quite a few things about it... BTW, are you in the UK? I'm willing to buy it off you
funky0308 said:
One more thing...
You did interesting thing but...
4.4 Android is optimised whole lot better than 4.2.2 and you'll get better results when Sony release 4.4 for Z1.
So, if you now think they are similar devices - you can be sure that Z1 powered by KitKat will be faster and smoother than Nexus.
That's all theoretically for now but I'm 100% sure Z1 will become even better device on 4.4...
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I totally agree with you Z1 runs 4.2 while Nexus runs 4.4 and both are using the same chipset. So there is advatage for the nexus but the Z1 performs on the same level.
I do agree that the Z1 will get faster with 4.4 but I am not sure about smoother because it is already smooth to the highest level, I am not sure if it can get any smoother. in the past we used to look for performance boost from the hardware and the software sides to get smoother phone. But now we won't notice any improvement to the smoothness. what we will get from better software or hardware is just faster loading time of apps, websites, movies ... etc. But still your point is valid +1
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Thanks for the review/... It seemed to confirm quite a few things about it... BTW, are you in the UK? I'm willing to buy it off you
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you are more than welcome. I am in the UK, and ordered two nexus 5 and willing to sell both unopened
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you are more than welcome. I am in the UK, and ordered two nexus 5 and willing to sell both unopened
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What colour and size? I just need 1 and looking for 32GB one...
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The brightness is so much better on the Nexus 5. 100% in the Z1 = 40% in the Nexus 5. I am not sure if this because of the recent update which brought the brightness down for the Z1. Anyway, this is not big issue for me, I have my Z1 at 25% all of the time. But again this would probably mean better viewing in sunlight for the Nexus.
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Did you untick adapt lighting condition in the settings on the Z1? makes a big difference...
Thanks for review, Xperia z1 is a really good device
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Did you untick adapt lighting condition in the settings on the Z1? makes a big difference...
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Thanks for the tip. I always use auto brightness (forgot to turn it off). Now the brightness is almost equal and will the update the original topic
Sean473 said:
What colour and size? I just need 1 and looking for 32GB one...
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I have 16 and 32gb black ones
ahomad said:
Thanks for the tip. I always use auto brightness (forgot to turn it off). Now the brightness is almost equal and will the update the original topic
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Thanks! Got me worried a little if the difference was that huge lol
Thanks for testing!
Great to see that the Z1 is still the fastest Snapdragon 800 phone around (and yes: I am one of those benchmark lovers ).
The performance difference in Antutu really is impressive though, and that's although the Z1 has a slightly lower maximum clock than the Nexus (2,15 vs 2,3 GHz). It is probably for the same reason as with the LG G2: Thermal management.
Sony allows for the Z1 to run quite hot and the phone is bigger and does better at dissipating the heat, therefore the CPU is not clocked down during benchmarks.
You could try placing both phones in your refrigerator and repeat the Antutu test just for the fun if it, scores should be up by some 100 points
That was the case with the Nexus 4 too, due to thermal management it scored lower than the Z despite having the same hardware.
Thanks for the nice review btw.
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I have putted 64Gb SDcard in my Z1 - now everything is fine , also damn huge Akku! I think Z1 is best choise for snapdragon 800 atm imho
Z1 is with your last update? I ask because the camera has received some improvements.
As for me I didn't even considered getting nexus 5. No sdcard slot is a huge deal-braker for me...
Imagine that you want to watch full hd video on your mobile. Thats 11GB, where am I going to put my music in the end?
Its even worse than no led in XZU.
Another thing is that if it wouldnt come out for my ISP in Poland till 27'th then I just wouldn't be able to get it.
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I purchased the Nexus 5 as well. If it somehow trumps the Z1 then I'll just give this phone to my mom, if not: she'll get the N5 as intended
When it came down to it, it was either the Galaxy Note 3, Z1, or the N5. The GN3 suffered from touchwiz and the N5 is still up for debate since I have yet to really use it (used it for a bit when a Google rep came into my best buy store) but I think the Z1 is definitely the way to go. I just can't imagine myself ever using something that doesn't feel as solid as the Z1 in the future. I'm excited to see what Sony does with Kit Kat (hopefully we get it!) But till then, it's a bit pointless to compare the two phones IMO. One is running superior hardware but inferior software (not that 4.2.2 sucks or anything) while the other is running superior software with average hardware (save for the processor).
Both phones are amazing at the end of the day in their own right. But I'm willing to bet that we'll all see the same things said about them when these two phones are compared: people will rave about kit kat and how cheap the N5 is and will complain about viewing angles and price for the Z1.
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I'm really torn between the N5 and the Z1 at the moment... pretty much narrowed it down to those two, since I don't want any Touchwiz/LG crapware on my phone (2 years with an SGS2 is enough). Number one priority is battery life for me, and I thought the Z1 would be great since it had the large 3000 mAh battery, but from what I read that's not really the case. On the other hand my girlfriend's N4 actually has a very decent battery life, despite her using facebook and stuff extensively, so maybe the N5 is actually in a way equal to the Z1. And then of course I don't know when/if Sony releases updates, and do they bring all the 4.4 software goodness?
ahomad said:
Camera
This is quite hard, I do need some more time to say which is better. But initially, the Nexus has better low light image (the images are softer which has advantage of less noise and disadvantage of less details) but the colors are more accurate in the nexus as well. in good light conditions, the Z1 is better in every way.
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Z1 is F2.0 and N5 is F2.4. That's a half stop difference. So Z1 has a 50% bigger aperture size than the N5.
Thus Z1 will get away with shots with 50% faster shutter speed so action shots as well as better low light pics will go to the Z.
You can zoom to about 1.8x with Z1
N5 only has a 2 axis OIS which isn't all that great. Digital stabilisation can beat a 2 axis OIS.
Check this photo comparison between 5s & N5. (scroll down a bit till you see the starbucks coffee) Now check the lobby shot. At first glance the N5 looks better, but zoom into the garden behind and you can see the 5s doing a better job there.
Al this is not to say you cannot get good shots with the N5 or any other camera for that matter.. You can and its a definite improvement over the N4.
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Thanks for testing!
Great to see that the Z1 is still the fastest Snapdragon 800 phone around (and yes: I am one of those benchmark lovers ).
The performance difference in Antutu really is impressive though, and that's although the Z1 has a slightly lower maximum clock than the Nexus (2,15 vs 2,3 GHz). It is probably for the same reason as with the LG G2: Thermal management.
Sony allows for the Z1 to run quite hot and the phone is bigger and does better at dissipating the heat, therefore the CPU is not clocked down during benchmarks.
You could try placing both phones in your refrigerator and repeat the Antutu test just for the fun if it, scores should be up by some 100 points
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Jiyeon90 said:
That was the case with the Nexus 4 too, due to thermal management it scored lower than the Z despite having the same hardware.
Thanks for the nice review btw.
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I repeated antutu test on the Nexus 5 today morning while it is cold (left it next to the window where it is so cold here in the UK) and it managed to get higher score ~29500, but still no where near the Z1. I should mention that the nexus 5 got warmer than the Z1 during yesterday and todays tests (although the nexus was colder when I started doing antutu test today as I was using the Z1 to check e-mails and other things before reading you comment and decided to repeat antutu test on both devices).

Z2 camera battery

Hello i am new here.. I had lg g3 and i sold it and bought z2.. I found that g3's camera and battery was much better than z2.. I dunno if i missed something or the g3 much better than z2
In your opinion is the lg g3 better or the z2 is a beetrr smartphone all around?
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Battery on z2 should outperform the G3, try manual settings for camera as in less than optimum conditions auto settings struggle.
I went from g3 to z2 as well and thought the same thing, g3 takes great shots when there's a lot of sunlight and it tends to sharpen the pictures more. The z2 is more subtle in the picture that it takes.
Video on the other hand, comparing videos from both phones, the z2 is better.
Overall performance, z2 is better again. There's strange intermittent lag on the g3, you don't get any lag on the z2. The way I see it, the z2 is basically a Nexus 5 with an awesome camera
jigna said:
Overall performance, z2 is better again. There's strange intermittent lag on the g3, you don't get any lag on the z2. The way I see it, the z2 is basically a Nexus 5 with an awesome camera
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And an SD slot, & decent battery.
Sorry i have both z2 is all round better device lg has loads of lag

Any improvements to Camera?

Hi,
I'm considering the Wileyfox Storm but reviews I've read really slate the main camera despite the impressive specs. I'm wondering if the problem was a software one and if it's been improved since the reviews came out in Oct/Nov?
Cheers guys.
I think it's a sony 13 mb sensor but it's doesn't have ois so yiu could had a nuce pictures but not always
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