[Q]Pros & Cons of M ? I wanna Buy ! - Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

guys,i just wanna buy this mobile ! as you guys are using this,i wanna ask you guys only(not any site's bull****s )..
plz help me out...what are the pros and cons of motorola droid razr m ?

Ive had mine for about 5 days so ill give you mine so far.
Pros:
1)One of the best if not the best form factor for a phone with this kind of screen.
2)Audio is excellent. If you play music with your phone, youll love it.
3)Quite a good looker.
4)Quite snappy.
Cons:
1)Camera is very average. Can be improved with settings but who wants to change those everytime for a simple picture.
2)Support is very bad atm. There are barely any roms for it and bootloader is still locked so any major support wont come for a while.
3)Its quite expensive for what its got.
4)Internal memory is low (8GB) and to make it worse, its troublesome to move big programs to the sd card since its not officially supported.
5) This is a big one, since Jelly Bean there is no USB Mass storage. I suggest you read on this is you need direct access to your memory cards.
Lasltly id say the screen is outdated BUT it makes up for it with its punchy contrast levels. Its also very readable in the sun so its so-so.

b0uncyfr0 said:
Ive had mine for about 5 days so ill give you mine so far.
Pros:
1)One of the best if not the best form factor for a phone with this kind of screen.
2)Audio is excellent. If you play music with your phone, youll love it.
3)Quite a good looker.
4)Quite snappy.
Cons:
1)Camera is very average. Can be improved with settings but who wants to change those everytime for a simple picture.
2)Support is very bad atm. There are barely any roms for it and bootloader is still locked so any major support wont come for a while.
3)Its quite expensive for what its got.
4)Internal memory is low (8GB) and to make it worse, its troublesome to move big programs to the sd card since its not officially supported.
5) This is a big one, since Jelly Bean there is no USB Mass storage. I suggest you read on this is you need direct access to your memory cards.
Lasltly id say the screen is outdated BUT it makes up for it with its punchy contrast levels. Its also very readable in the sun so its so-so.
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a lot of this is going to depend on what device you are coming from.
but, i really enjoy this phone a lot. i believe that software is going to be the same as with any other device with JB on it, so that becomes a wash. the camera is actually quite nice when you set it to HDR, otherwise, below average at best. it's not too expensive, just $50 from VZW (or you can buy off-contract for about $250).
you can insert your own memory card - so that helps with storage issues; but the battery is not removable.
but I recommend it if you want a smaller device that fits easily in your pocket.
the best feature of all (in my opinion) is the battery life. most folks can get a least 24 hours in between charges.

So I've only had this device a few days, but so far I like it a lot.
I came from the DNA, which I only could take for about 2 weeks. It's just too damn big. I'm not a small guy, but a NBA player or someone with similarly large hands is what the DNA is made for.
Prior to the DNA I had the Incredible 4G. Very similar form factor and while it technically has a smaller screen, I would say the screen on the Inc4 is much better. But the Razr M seems to be just fine for me. I'm not glued to the screen watching movies.
The battery life so far seems better than the Inc4. I can't say for sure as I'm still trying to decide which ROM is going to be my daily driver (Currently on Eclipse with Apex and I'm really liking it.)

Razr M is Epic!
This phone does not get nearly enough credit!
I have had it for about 2 months now, and the battery life is great if you use it for just talk and text, I can get a full day of moderate browsing on and off of wifi (I am a student and a university). I get up at 8 and don't plug it in to 10pm, and it has about 35%. This is with the stock JB that comes with it. Despite the low resolution of the screen It looks just as crisp as my friends SG3. I will say that for what I use it for HD screens are pointless.
The phone fits perfect in my hand, and i would guess that my hands are a little smaller than average. Development is growing steadily for the phone, I have been running the Eclipse rom on it for a few weeks now Via safestrap, but I just installed it to the stock slot today, so there is potential for more.
I love the design of the phone as well, very small bezel on the side. The soft buttons on the screen, that change depending on usage are great. All in all the phone has a great form factor.

I agree this phone deserves more credit. It has just as much power under the hood as the sgs3 except for 1gb less ram. Draw back is as someone already stated is the internal memory is smaller but the battery life kicks the S3 s ass.
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b0uncyfr0 said:
Cons:
3)Its quite expensive for what its got.
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I'm not sure what you paid for your phone or where you got it, but this might be the last phone on earth I'd call "expensive". While I agree on some of your other assessments, the phone is awesome for it's price.
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Jersey846 said:
I'm not sure what you paid for your phone or where you got it, but this might be the last phone on earth I'd call "expensive". While I agree on some of your other assessments, the phone is awesome for it's price.
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Well i dont know where you got yours either but i can gurantee you for its price, its features are very sub-par. I paid $430 for mine on ebay (XT907) and that was cheap. Locally most telco's here have the XT905 close to $500 outright.
Compare the XT905/907 to the Xperia TX. The TX has a bigger and higher resolution screen, Better camera with the same dual core krait architecture. You can get it for $380. And to make it worse, the TX was released AFTER the Droid M/M.
For its feature set, this phone should be well below $350, i dont know how or why Motorola came up with such prices. Probably because of the form factor. Some people dont mind that, myself included but I KNOW alot of people put off by the pricing of this phone.

$99 (upgrade) w/2 year extension. It's "free" now on Verizon's site with a 2 year contract. I'm sure you have your reasons why you paid as much as you did, but I only upgrade when I have one available through Verizon. I'm cheap like that. At the time, a Razr Maxx was priced at $399 (w/contract). $99 as opposed to $399 is considerably less expensive. They aren't marketing this phone as if it's Motorola's flagship device. I knew the specs, and for what I need it has served me incredibly well.
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slogar25 said:
I agree this phone deserves more credit. It has just as much power under the hood as the sgs3 except for 1gb less ram. Draw back is as someone already stated is the internal memory is smaller but the battery life kicks the S3 s ass.
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Couldn't have said it better myself! I miss the resolution on the gs3 but that's about it. 32GB card in this phone makes the measly internal storage a non-issue.
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About to get an atrix, need advices

Well, i just broke my sgs for the third time , and im not fixing it anymore, in fact, just sold it as it is.
sgs2 is too expensive for me, and im thinking in something diferent too. So i must choose for atrix, or optimus 2x. my first choica fas the o2x, but on its forum, ppl said crap against this phone lol. so im here to ask, what do you think about atrix, does it worth?
thanks!
oh hell yes worth every cent !
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I like my atrix.
i like the size, the speed.
i like its accessories like the car dock and the lapdock.
and i love the fingerprint reader. love it.
it's a good phone. solid.
and i found out not evan a monkey can break it trying to root and unlock it aslong as it can read
instructions
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This is true, but we sadly do have a lacking development community to some extent. One reason why I'm considering leaving this phone. Although we do have ICS and MIUI on the way, probably in the next month or too. Ill stick around until I had my fun with those. But anyways its a solid phone with good specs that could really last you for a while.
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My gf has an Sgs2 and I have the Atrix. The SGS2 only has a better camera( which in my opinion is not a big deal as I love the 5 megapixel camera on the atrix. It satisfies ask my needs) and it also has a gorgeous screen, which again is not a big deal for me because my battery life is 24+ hours with brightness tuned to Max. I love the screen on the atrix although the one on SGS2 is better.
I think that the atrix is the most underrated phone ever. This thing can do more....a lot moee than what the SGS2 can do + it's got unique features like fingerprint scanner.
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you guys really made my mind. my choice is made, gonna buy an atrix tomorow. Thanks and welcome to me haha
infestedd said:
you guys really made my mind. my choice is made, gonna buy an atrix tomorow. Thanks and welcome to me haha
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I would go with the samsung galaxy s 2 for development. The phone is being supported by miui offically and you will get the lastest updates. If it costs to much for you .. you should probably save up.
just one last question: in latin america atrix dont have gingerbread yet. would be too hard to flash an international version? and 2.2 bootloader is locked, and 2.3 is open right? thanks! the version i would buy is atrix mb860
cannot (not yet at least) find out a phone which fits my needs as Atrix
I dont have an idea to make a PR or the comparisons between GS2, Op2X... or so on and the Atrix, but I would like to share my experiences as well as cons./pros of this phone so that you may have more exactly choice to pay money.
- Firstly, this is the best phone which has been offering me the highest quality of voice call, gsm, gps and wifi signals. Such the things satisfied me in the intensity and the stability of radio. I've been owned some other brands of smartphone before switched to the Atrix so that I can surely share this experience to anyone.
- The second pros is the huge battery that in fact impressed me more than the Moto's advertisements or disparagements somewhere out there. With the Atrix, the annoying issue of battery lifetime that I faced before is fully disappear .
- Atrix is so far so good in providing the strong secure ability under hardware level through the biometric sensor which is well known as Fingerprint scanner. Not only adding a mediocre feature of unlocking screen by fingerprint authorization, but it also added valued security options for protecting any sensitive things in my phone such as the business data, PIM data, apps, accounts... Such an ability performs security checks excellently while still keeping no change of speed for me in accessing the phone by myselft. Yeah, I mean that I dont need to enter the boring password or swipe the pattern to unlock the phone or launch an apps, etc...
In special addition, the fingerprint scanner on the Atrix also has the ability of operating as the track pad including the touch click like a mouse when you use the CM7-Fingerprint version at here
- The forth, Atrix offers valued entertainment features. I mean the lapdock and the webtop expansion. Though it wont works for replacing a laptop or your PC, but it offered me an excellent entertainment with a HD TV in games or Web surfing like a PC. Along with a wireless keyboard and wireless mouse, I even forgot I were playing on a phone! Becos it is really like a PC with a huge screen! If you cannot figured out this, just imagine that you are lying at now on the bed for relax with your TV before going into sleep, you always have a wireless keyboard and a mouse somewhere at the top of your bed, just take them and get started surfing the web, or maybe the facebook or anything else including games,... Well, you have the 3 in only 1 entertainment device, that are the TV, the PC and the smartphone. All of them are integrated into one big TV screen. And whats up when you feel now asleep? You give an eye to the docked phone (yes, its Atrix with the multimedia dock), seeing that is 11pm and the 60% battery in charging! Well, just leave it alone till next morning it will be ready at 100% charged for you for new working day. And for now, simply go to sleep!
Still not stopped at there, with a multimedia dock station you also are provided the great convenience in review or backup photos/videos/documents or anything else in the phone to your external storage such as an external drive, an USB drive or both..., just by plugging them through the USB ports on the dock station and using buil-in File Manager in webtop to browse data
Above are things that cannot be supported by another device till now, in my opinion
- For the biggest disadvantage of this phone, Atrix I mean, as my own view it is the Pentile screen. It is really not smoother and glitter than some others like GS2, Sensation, Galaxy Note...
Once you rooted & nlocked bootloader & tried the various Roms you find them to be a much of a muchness.
The stock rom is laggy, GB & froyo.
Rommed it's much better but nothing special.
Hardware it's prety cool, music played through power amp with flac is fantastic. Not much else is outstanding
If I knew then what I know now - I would avoid like the plague - Motorola Europe are pants.
Get a HTC or a Nexus, anthing but a Motofail - I'll never buy on again
Sorry it's bad news
well i came to a new problem now. the seller just offered me an milestone 3 (droid 3 xt860) . the price is not mutch higher. should i get it instead of atrix?
infestedd said:
well i came to a new problem now. the seller just offered me an milestone 3 (droid 3 xt860) . the price is not mutch higher. should i get it instead of atrix?
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With the MS3 you gain different advantages such as the physical keyboard, the 8MP camera... but at the same time you lost 512MB of RAM compared to the Atrix
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The Atrix is a very solid device and if you are looking to go the cheap route, it is definitely a strong option. Keep in mind however, that because of Moto's early bootloader debacle, the dev support for the phone isn't quite up to par with some of the higher profile phones like the SGS2. I would say that the two glaring drawbacks of the Atrix are the pentile screen and camera. When you pay close enough attention, you can tell that there are gaps between the colors, especially noticeable on the battery indicator. The camera on the Atrix is just sub-par. The colors seem too washed out and images aren't too sharp when compared with other phones out on the market. IMO, the quality of the recorded video seems better than the images, and it seems that something in the GB update made both just slightly better, but the camera is still on the bottom of my currently cycled phones.
That said, there still is legitimate development going on for the Atrix, and it is very likely going to get some form of ICS in the future (possibly not official from Motorola). The phone is coming up on a year old, but it's still one hell of a workhorse. My Galaxy Nexus is supposed to be coming in later today, but I can definitely still see myself using the Atrix from time to time. The build quality feels really solid.
The pentile display is actually not much of a problem for me. Anything is okay for me if it saves significant amount of battery life and moreover the display still is more than enough for me. Never like the oversaturated screen on my friend's captivate.
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Pentile matrix is really an advanced technology which gives a higher brightness, higher contrast and sharper screen. Hence it allows the manufacturer to decrease the intensity of the back-lit torch for saving power. But, as a cost, the "gaps" phenom is known as the characteristics of this technology. It can be corrected by increasing the pixels intensity of the screen, e.g. to HD resolution, so this technology is really a chance for the new handsets in the future. As for the Atrix, this is a loveable cost for major of people to gain the more attractive benefits that is the less consumption of battery power.
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Yes get it. ATRIX is on the list of supported phones for the gta 3 that's coming out soon. Check engadget.
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a sad subject. who's buying the Nexus 4 on here!?

I, like many of you, was going to stay loyal to the good old Motorola Atrix. Especially since we finally got CM10 that actually worked pretty much flawlessly for most, except the battery life which was completely awful. I haven't seen much going on here, and usually I would care since I love my Atrix and would like to see more going towards the improving of CM10...but how much can we really improve? I'm stuck with the thought that we're lucky and this is as good as we'll get with Atrix. So...the Nexus 4 comes out the 13th and it's only $300. There's a lot of controversy about the no LTE thing, I've never had it so I don't care. The SD card thing is a shame but googles done it since the Nexus S so it was expected. Anyways, I think it's amazing. I've always hated the cheap plastic quality of the Atrix and the horrible adhesive that I blame for the corners of my screen popping up. This has gorilla glass on both sides which I find really cool. It looks like the most solid Android phone out there right now, I don't think any phone meets it's build quality. No removable battery is upsetting, but it's not like they could of done a removable glass back cover. Plus I think it has do do with making the device thinner. Annnyyywayss... I'm getting it. It's the best, most powerful, and its CHEAP. So who else is ditching the Atrix (sad I know) for the Nexus 4?
BravoMotorola said:
I, like many of you, was going to stay loyal to the good old Motorola Atrix. Especially since we finally got CM10 that actually worked pretty much flawlessly for most, except the battery life which was completely awful. I haven't seen much going on here, and usually I would care since I love my Atrix and would like to see more going towards the improving of CM10...but how much can we really improve? I'm stuck with the thought that we're lucky and this is as good as we'll get with Atrix. So...the Nexus 4 comes out the 13th and it's only $300. There's a lot of controversy about the no LTE thing, I've never had it so I don't care. The SD card thing is a shame but googles done it since the Nexus S so it was expected. Anyways, I think it's amazing. I've always hated the cheap plastic quality of the Atrix and the horrible adhesive that I blame for the corners of my screen popping up. This has gorilla glass on both sides which I find really cool. It looks like the most solid Android phone out there right now, I don't think any phone meets it's build quality. No removable battery is upsetting, but it's not like they could of done a removable glass back cover. Plus I think it has do do with making the device thinner. Annnyyywayss... I'm getting it. It's the best, most powerful, and its CHEAP. So who else is ditching the Atrix (sad I know) for the Nexus 4?
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I'll probably just wait for the SG4, since I actually have LTE in my area.
Have fun with your N4.
Nope...
Not me...
I'm currently running CM7 and will soon flash to Nottach so I can use it with my lapdock... as soon as my Note II shows up next week! :highfive:
At first I thought cool, but I'd prefer to have LTE on my next phone. The real deal killer for me is no SD card. I've got a 32gb sd card + internal storage in my atrix and I'm running low on space. Being stuck at just 16gb is no go for me.
Not me, I'm loyal to my Atrix. Please go crying somewhere else
I'm still up in the air between the optimus G and the nexus 4. I'm leaning towards the G as it has lte and more space. The fact that it's shipping with a locked bootloader is a bit worrisome, but so did our atrix. It's so close, essentially identical, to the nexus so once it's bootloader is unlocked it should stay up to date.
Maybe getting the nexus 4 but just to play around with still sticking to the atrix though
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Wow. That's surprising. I would also love LTE, but I can easily live without it honestly. I have wifi at home and any other building... and on the go I really don't care to have super fast speeds... of course there's a difference in pages loading but it's not significant enough for me to really care. I would like the Note 2 also like many of you... but it's really not the top of the line. It's pretty powerful, just not the best. And I'm tired of hard white cheap plastic. I would of thought so many more of you guys would like the N4... you know you can also wait for the SGS4 but it's going to be the same old plastic device as the previous ones. It's the power and the quality that really made me want the N4. Oh, and it's extremely cheep.
Me. HSPA+ 42 is close enough to LTE in my area for the difference to be negligible. LTE is a huge battery hog anyway. Bring on the Nexus 4!
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Wow. That's surprising. I would also love LTE, but I can easily live without it honestly. I have wifi at home and any other building... and on the go I really don't care to have super fast speeds... of course there's a difference in pages loading but it's not significant enough for me to really care. I would like the Note 2 also like many of you... but it's really not the top of the line. It's pretty powerful, just not the best. And I'm tired of hard white cheap plastic. I would of thought so many more of you guys would like the N4... you know you can also wait for the SGS4 but it's going to be the same old plastic device as the previous ones. It's the power and the quality that really made me want the N4. Oh, and it's extremely cheep.
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So, are you saying the LGN4 is the best? The best is what works for 'you'. Smaller screen, non-removable battery, and no expansion for SD card does not equel best in my book.. but that's me .. .oh, and no LTE.. my daughter has the SGSIII, doesn't feel cheap to me...
I'm getting the Note 2 for the larger screen and the S Pen features and the other feature the Nexus line lacks, mentioned above. To me those are important, to you it isn't, personal choice... I've had HTC, LG, Samsung, Moto... I go with the company/phone that has the features I want..
Good luck and have fun with your LGN4!
Am I getting one? Yes. Am I getting one now or any time near launch? No. My contract with AT&T still has some time left, so I dont want to lock myself into a GSM network should a PAYG CDMA option appear that looks really appealing. My Atrix will be sticking with me for at least another 5 months.
I could care less about LTE. My home internet is only 6mbs down, so its not like HSPA is any slower than wifi for me.
LG + No Ext MicroSD = Automatic NO BUY...
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LG + No Ext MicroSD = Automatic NO BUY...
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...Read some review actually. LG is known to have bad build quality but Google made sure it didn't. And it's said so far that is has the best build quality out of any Android phone right now.
mysticdrew said:
At first I thought cool, but I'd prefer to have LTE on my next phone. The real deal killer for me is no SD card. I've got a 32gb sd card + internal storage in my atrix and I'm running low on space. Being stuck at just 16gb is no go for me.
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My sentiments exactly! I need my entire music library on my phone all the time, as well as random movies and roms, etc...
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...Read some review actually. LG is known to have bad build quality but Google made sure it didn't. And it's said so far that is has the best build quality out of any Android phone right now.
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Engadget rated it pretty poor for audio quality. (Max volume)
LG and HTC are 2 phones that I've had major problems in the past with multiple phones of each.
I wouldn't mind giving the N4 a try and sell it if I don't like it, but the lack of External Micro SD was the "Easy" nail in the coffin for me.
Google must think that AT&T just loves to give unlimited data away for free, and WiFi can only do so much, which is why I need my Ext SD...
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I am one of those rare idiots who prefer phones with smaller screens and higher resolutions....
and currently i dont see any phones in 4-4.3 inch mark that are worth upgrading.. so ill be sticking to atrix for quite a while looking at current breed of ultra big phones
Not I...I went from Atrix to SGS3
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I don't see a huge improvement in the smartphone society so I'll stick with my beloved atrix on mrom until something that blows my mind comes out or until it breaks. BTW my country only supports expensive 3G so I'm not using data.
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I'm going to give it a few more weeks for reviews and complaints. I was originally going to get a Galaxy Nexus but aside from no LTE the LG is still a nice phone.
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Apparently the battery life is terrible. I remember the atrix would last a good 30 hours with moderate use for me.
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RAM

I am seriously considering the Droid RAZR HD. My main question is about the RAM. Is 1gb going to be enough for the phone to perform well over the next 20 months? I'm worried this will be a major hindrance. I love everything about this phone except its already a generation behind...no S4 pro and no 2 gb RAM.
That is the main reason I'd consider the note 2 or gs3.
I have had Windows Phone for a while now due to bad android experiences at first, so I want to avoid slowness, lags, etc. I'm giving Android one more chance.
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I am seriously considering the Droid RAZR HD. My main question is about the RAM. Is 1gb going to be enough for the phone to perform well over the next 20 months? I'm worried this will be a major hindrance. I love everything about this phone except its already a generation behind...no S4 pro and no 2 gb RAM.
That is the main reason I'd consider the note 2 or gs3.
I have had Windows Phone for a while now due to bad android experiences at first, so I want to avoid slowness, lags, etc. I'm giving Android one more chance.
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The likelihood is that there won't be a manufacturer supported update past Jelly Bean for the RAZR HD given past history. Any of the ROMs out there are optimized so will work fine - think of CM10 running on devices with only 512MB of RAM. It's certainly doable. The average phone is still coming with 1GB or less these days. Only the newest gen phones are coming with 2GB.
Honestly though, the camera on this thing is such a POS that I've got my name down for a DROID DNA at my store, which will be in before my first two weeks with the RAZR HD are up and will be a no-cost transfer.
The DNA storage is what turned me off to it... I don't understand why they are still designing phones like that.
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The DNA storage is what turned me off to it... I don't understand why they are still designing phones like that.
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It was the tiny, inexcusably small battery that turned me off to it. Storage ran a close second though. I need at LEAST 32GB of storage, 16GB doesn't cut it. Storage was the biggest reason I was turned off to the Nexus 4 and wasn't willing to sacrifice my unlimited Verizon data contract. Though, if LG/Google eventually make a 32GB N4, and resolve those overheating problems in the SoC, I'll give it another look in a few months.
Edit - I should say I that I bought a Razr HD Maxx myself for the battery life. My previous phone, a Galaxy Nexus, would get ~6hrs of light-moderage use when on mobile data. I'd unplug it in the morning, and have to juice it up before I left work. :/ The radios in the Moto also put the GNex to complete shame. My main office saw the Gnex test at 4-6MBs down, the Moto pulls 10-13MB in the same area. At one of our Co-Lo facilities, the Gnex would pull a speck of 3G. The Moto not only gets an LTE signal, it pulls ~9MBs down. Thats impressive.
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I am seriously considering the Droid RAZR HD. My main question is about the RAM. Is 1gb going to be enough for the phone to perform well over the next 20 months? I'm worried this will be a major hindrance. I love everything about this phone except its already a generation behind...no S4 pro and no 2 gb RAM.
That is the main reason I'd consider the note 2 or gs3.
I have had Windows Phone for a while now due to bad android experiences at first, so I want to avoid slowness, lags, etc. I'm giving Android one more chance.
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This is my concern as well. I'm of course picking up the RAZR HD or RAZR MAXX HD on Friday. I think it might be sufficient enough especially if you're going to root and we eventually get cm10 on this device which should be marvelous. Phonedog FINALLY did his RAZR HD vs S3 video. Quadrant scores showed the HD beating the S3 and its not even on Jelly Bean yet. Awesome build, good radios, great battery life, and a close to stock android look, what more can we really ask for at the moment. I just fear getting left in the dust again when it comes to updates, I'm on the Droid X2 which a.) is old and stuck on the much retired gingerbread b.) I didn't even get a taste of android 4.0
Of course 2gb is better than 1. But for me it wasn't just about technical specs. I liked the build quality of the Razr, and I really dislike that big home button on the S3. 1gb is fairly standard, and it will be awhile before apps need that much. 1gb is also plenty for 4.1 and 4.2 (if it ever gets it). I really wanted the Nexus 4, but I am stuck on Verizon. The Razr gives me the closest thing to a Google experience.
Good luck. There are several really good devices out there.
Get the razr HD... the DNA is a joke..crappy battery with a quad core and bigger screen...that makes sense
Ram won't be a issue for the OS 1 gig is plenty for the next two years
Not to mention if u like good reception u won't find Better radios than moto..period end of story
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Talk about battery life!!!
Stock rooted x926 used TB to freeze some bloat...not a lot..and I use smart actions
Freaking love this phone
Oh ya this is the reg..NOT the maxx
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To the OP... Keeping in mind you're in a RAZR HD thread area, take all of this with a grain of salt. I'm sure if you post in the DNA forum they'll tell you you're crazy for "taking a step backwards" with the RHD. Same in a GSIII forum thread. You'll have to make the final decision for yourself, with the info you get from everywhere.
Now that being said, I wholeheartedly am in favor of the RHD over the other devices, for many of the reasons already mentioned above.
- (objective) build quality is second-to-none with Kevlar, Gorilla Glass, and aluminum bezel. Sorry, I don't like Samsung's "playskool"-built phones. I perfer a durable, adult toy.
- (objective) the battery's a monster. It's been documented enough, no need to elaborate further.
- (subjective) I prefer the styling of my RMaxxHD to any of the other phones - black, nice curves, feels good in the hand...
- (objective) storage is far superior, and when you do things like download a TON of apps, music, videos, full-length movies, pics, etc., the more memory you have the better. Also keep in mind that 8/16/32GB is NOT the formatted memory; you actually get less to play with formatted, and the ROM, whether stock or not, will take up a good chunk as well.
- (objective/subjective) the camera is not as good, though I hear 4.1 JB should fix some of the problems? I don't take a ton of pics so I don't care about the camera.
- (fact - as of the timing of this posting) speaking of updates, these phones are slated to get the 4.2 JB update, though it's scheduled for 4Q2013 and we haven't even received the 4.1 JB yet... I do think we'll eventually get the 4.2 JB update, considering there is still support for the Droid 4 (which seems like an abacus these days it's so old, technologically speaking) and it's scheduled to get 4.1. No one knows for sure until it happens though.
- (objective/subjective) though 1GB RAM is much less than 2GB RAM, I haven't found myself saying "self, I wish I had more RAM in this phone..." My laptop uses 1GB RAM still (yeah, it's a bit of a dinosaur) and it still muscles through every task like a champ. And believe me, I put it to work. 1GB should be plenty for your needs.
- (objective/subjective) the screens are roughly the same size (4.7, 4.8, 5.0) and have roughly the same quality. The RHD is considered the "worst" of the three, but I dare ANYONE to look at the three screens and really honestly tell me you see a difference. I've stared at the GSIII and RHD screens, they look identical to me. 318ppi (pixels per inch) vs. 313ppi... yeah, you're gonna see that difference, right. Stop lying. On just the RHD screen itself, it's light years ahead of previous screens I've had on phones. I still tell people how vibrant it looks.
- (objective) the radios are as equally superior as the build quality. I would bet money I could get a signal on the moon (ok, maybe that's an exaggeration, but I haven't found anywhere that I haven't had a 4G signal, including places I barely got a 3G signal on my Ally and Incredible).
Good luck with your decision. And good luck with your buyer's remorse if you choose anything other than the RAZR HD/Maxx
I refuse to fall for HTC again. I have had nothing but bad luck with all of their phones.
I also refuse to put a case on my phone..it makes it too thick. I drop my phones a lot and none have ever broken, I feel like Samsung phones break easily.
I am just nervous about Android buut hopefully it has matured to where not everything lags...and hopefully apps no longer look like they came from Windows 95. I think I'll go for the razor... wish me luck!
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Have been waiting for the s4 for months.. its almost here.. but now HTC is winning me

I happened to stroll into best buy to return something today and got a chance to play around with the ONE, and was honestly blown away. Granted I haven't seen the GS4 in person yet so it's not a fair comparison, but now I'm not so one sided in my opinion. Anyone else feeling this way? I think i need to spend some time with the GS4 and see if that extra .3 inches makes a difference, that is probably going to be the deciding factor.. but using mlb at bat and watching a game.. with those speakers.. unbelievable on the htc one.
I'm in the same boat. Said I would try it for 14 days then return to bestbuy for the S4. Not so sure about that now. I will need to play with the S4 extensively in the store before I make up my mind.
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In the past year I have always had the urge to get the One X, One X Plus and now the One. The draw for me has always been their screen, good or bad just being different than Amoled I wanted to try it.
In the end I haven't gotten one yet because of the no sd or removeable battery. I always like to get an extended battery and I use a 64gb card.
Maybe one day I will give in
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I am a little disappointed a lot the non removable battery however the lack of an sd card doesn't bother me because I never go over 32gb and you can't even install large apps to the sd card anyway without doing a bunch of scripts or mods and apps don't run as smoothly from sd cards anyway.
I'm pretty sure the issue of screen quality and size will be the deciding factor for me. I've heard the argument of popping colors vs realistic colors but I need to decide which I like better. And coming from the note 2, I may decide that extra 0.3" is important to me.
theraker007 said:
I happened to stroll into best buy to return something today and got a chance to play around with the ONE, and was honestly blown away. Granted I haven't seen the GS4 in person yet so it's not a fair comparison, but now I'm not so one sided in my opinion. Anyone else feeling this way? I think i need to spend some time with the GS4 and see if that extra .3 inches makes a difference, that is probably going to be the deciding factor.. but using mlb at bat and watching a game.. with those speakers.. unbelievable on the htc one.
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Trust me, if you get the black mist version, it is legit. Just wait until you finally take it out of the box. I really wonder how anyone could think this phone looks cheap at all. I was the one showing off all the crazy features to the AT&T staff and they kept saying that they didn't know it could do that. Most of them had the new HTC one, but looked amazed at the GS4's features. Either way, just go with what you like. I just can't stand the lack of a menu button, no sd card and a sub par battery life on the One. The ONE does look a tad bit better, and I'm sure the boomsound is crazy, but overall, I'm happy I stuck with the GS4.
Phone + unremovable battery = unacceptable
HTC completely dropped the ball by not designing it with a removable battery..no way a power user is gonna make it through the day.. It's an HD screen with LTE data.. No way it can last.
That's a deal breaker for me
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[Q] Considering a Nexus 4, a few questions for long time N4 owners

Considering picking up a Nexus 4 and would love to hear some pros and cons from long time users of the N4 on XDA that have had the phone for months now, and their real-world usage and opinion (like how the performance/battery holds up after x months of use). I also wouldn't mind hearing about comparisons to other phones with regards to performance if other N4 owner have/use other phones, older or new.
Some background info:
I'm coming from a 2010 HTC Windows Phone, so I'll probably be blown away by what a 2012/2013ish phone hardware is like. WP7 on my HTC HD7 still runs very fast/smoothly in the core OS experience, but once you get to 3rd party app load times on startup, it becomes painful. On top of that MS has all but abandoned WP7, and features-wise, its seriously dated and missing key basic but essential features of smartphone OS's, like ahem orientation lock and a more modern mobile web browser, not even 3rd party apps can help there.
Like you said any 2012/13 phone will amaze you from the phone you have now. You might not even notice the differences between all these new phones.
The closest comparison to this phone would be the s3.
nexus 4 slightly outperforms the s3, you would most notice the smoothness between the two. Battery life, they're roughly the same, except if you use your phone a lot... like extensively than the better choice is the s3. Camera is also better on the s3. Storage goes to s3. But I feel the nexus is the more complete phone... I guess you can say less hiccups.
I would probably choose s4 and htc one over nexus though. Haven't played with them yet, but simply because they're newer lol
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I love my n4. I'm not a "long time" owner being 2 weeks of owning it, but I'll tell you I love it. I came from a One X running a custom rom and it didn't compare to the speed of the stock n4. It may be a dual core vs quad but still, aosp is just fantastic. Battery is pretty good I'd say. It gets through the day, I'll show some pictures. The lack of LTE and storage isn't a big deal to me because all my music is coming from the cloud and HSPA is fast enough. I haven't even switched to the HSPA+ plan yet because lazy. However, it doesn't play music near as loud as my One X through headphones, but they have a mod for that.
Oh and it charges pretty fast.
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I love my n4. I'm not a "long time" owner being 2 weeks of owning it, but I'll tell you I love it. I came from a One X running a custom rom and it didn't compare to the speed of the stock n4. It may be a dual core vs quad but still, aosp is just fantastic. Battery is pretty good I'd say. It gets through the day, I'll show some pictures. The lack of LTE and storage isn't a big deal to me because all my music is coming from the cloud and HSPA is fast enough. I haven't even switched to the HSPA+ plan yet because lazy. However, it doesn't play music near as loud as my One X through headphones, but they have a mod for that.
Oh and it charges pretty fast.
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Nexus all the way. It's been a little less than a month of owning it, and it's great. Everything works like it's supposed to work, custom ROMs are easy to install, and I unlocked the bootloader/rooted it in a little less than an hour.
I got mine since december of the past year, and I love it more than ever, looks amazing, runs smooth, can run any game without lag, it fit my needs.
I must warn you to be careful don't drop it
My sister have an galaxy s3 and honestly the Nexus 4 is at higher level
I have the S3 and Nexus 4 and Whereas I love my S3, the N4 is the better phone all around. The S3 has it's better things like storage, LTE, S Calendar, OMLEAD (sp.) Screen (where black background takes no power but on N4 it does) and the camera. The camera is by far the best. Beats the heck out of N4 so if you take alot of pics, you'll want the S3. The N4 does okay on its camera but is no where near S3. BUT...performance wise, the N4 wins, hands down. ASOP is better in my opinion as some of these custome UI's really take a lot of power, etc. Plus, for $350, you get a highend phone for a midrange price. It's a no brainer in my opinion.
I'm happy with my N4. If you need an unlocked phone, for the price you seriously can't beat it. If price is no issue, I agree with Teo032 and I'd go with S4 or HTC One based on hardware.
The one thing about the N4 I'm still getting used to is the lack of storage size. I STRONGLY suggest getting the 16 GB. I got the 8 and I would totally pay $50 for another 8 gigs. I think it currently comes with a free bumper, if not, get one, they're actually pretty cool and my N4 kept slidding off crap because the screen is so smooth.
Good luck!
Nearing two months here. Upgraded from the LG Optimus 2X, the world's first dual core Android.
I absolutely love my N4. For the price it's a steal. The performance just blows me away (I am running CyanogenMod, not overclocked) compared to my old phone which had s**tty drivers and often had lag spikes even with overclocking.
If you compare the N4 to a stock unrooted Galaxy S4 or HTC One (the two powerhouses of 2013), you will actually find that when exiting apps and going around the home screens, the N4 is faster than either phone, because those two powerhouses have to deal with the overhead of rendering an ugly custom skin that adds no value Of course when actually inside an app those two phones will be the performance kings, but the N4 is no slouch either - it nails pretty much every game I throw at it.
These are the only real reasons to forgo the N4 in favour of something else:
1. You have the $$$ and want better build quality
2. You can't live with only 16 GB of internal storage, non-expandable
3. You like having a removable battery (or at least a removable cover to make accessing the SIM easier)
4. You want officially supported LTE that isn't 1700 Mhz
5. You think 4.7" is too big (a fair reason) and want something more compact.
If none of those points apply to you, then by all means, GET THE NEXUS 4!!! Also as a bonus you can load on a Metro UI skin if you miss WP
It's been like ~2 months now, and as most lads above I can sincerely say that it was the best choice possible at the moment (still is imo). Seeing that I simply agree with most of whats above this post, peformance wise n stuff, ill poke it from another point of view. Being an iphone4 user (jailbroken of course), the very first time I had the chance to fiddle with the nexus4 - it stole my heart completely. Versatility is just beyond any limits and if youre looking for a smart purchase, good performance/price ratio AND quality product - N4 is the best choice possible right now. The reason ive been using an iphone for quite a bit was actually lack of android based quality products (well, apart from a couple of htc's maybe ). It is crucial for me since I hate using a phone that reminds me of a plastic toy. N4 is the perfect solution in this case - official android based product combined with decent materials. You have to keep in mind though - it is a fragile piece of equipment and if you have like slippery hands (lol) or simply drop the phone pretty (too ) often - you must get yourself a case/bumper (i would recommend a piece of screen/back protector as well) cuz it might hurt if it bangs the floor
The Best...just saying
I have it for a long time and i must say its a nice phone.
You must be aware tho that there are random wifi issues on this phone that will probably be corrected with a system update.
The stock rom is ok and the stock google kernel uses the perf. branch so do not expect great battery life on stock even when the phone's idle.
A protective case is required or you will screw the back glass easily.
Photosphere is a nice feature included on the phone.
Phone overheats easily
You see the digitizer on screen
But its a great phone and im happy with it. Nothing would beat the galaxy s2 i had lol
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Ordered mine on day one and received it the following week. I came from an iPhone.
I have had no issues other than Android itself. Some of it is half baked, and fixes can be non-existent. Battery life is OK if you come to the conclusion that some apps are the main cause of poor battery life on Android... it is a bit of a free for all here. I have seen significant improvement since installing Qualcomm's Battery Guru. I have seen 13.5 hours on battery with 2hr 46min screen time and 50% battery left. While it ain't quite an iPhone, it is more than sufficient.
The phone is very poorly documented and much of how it works is a "discovery by braille" experience. The stock mail client is unusable for business... thankfully I found a better one (AquaMail). The little speaker on the back is useless. I mean USELESS.
If I had it to do over again I don't think I'd do anything differently. The only other phone I would consider at this point is the HTC One (almost twice the price). At $350 I am very comfortable using my phone and not worrying about damaging/losing it. If I toast it it is not that big a deal to replace it (unlike the $600-$800 for some competing phones). It does almost everything well, and the little rough spots are minor. I do miss the accessory/software ecosystem that is iOS, but at this point I think I would miss widgets and the open file system even more.
As far as aging goes, I've had mine for a while and it's stood the test of time. My battery life has only gotten better and better, but that's mostly due to constantly improving custom kernels (I use Faux123's). It plays all the games out there. The only drawback is storage.
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