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Onnia 7 QC issues?

(why is there no omnia 7 forum?)
I've just been told by t-mobile that the Omnia 7 has QC issues and their deliveries yesterday were returned to their suppliers, anyone know what these might be?

I just picked one up today from Orange!.. I wonder if mine is affected
I heard from vodafone store that their delivery of LG Optimus (Win7) came in and had to be recalled immediately without sale due to a bluetooth issue.

The build quality of the Omnia is one of the things that worries me after reports like this and the issues with the Galaxy series.
Evilanglic, since you now have your hands on one, what are your impressions of the device? Does it seem solid?

Much more solid than I was expecting. I thought it would feel like a light plastic shell like the Samsung Galaxy S.
It really is very nice, no creaks, just a solid slab of deep black technology! Good times.
The back is actually wrapped in metal to the edge of the screen on the sides, it is only the top and bottom of the device which are solid plastic sort-of-cap/ends of the device.
You definitely can't call it a unibody (or can you?..) but as I say... sort of mostly 'wrapped' in a sheet of metal.
It was a close call between the (SAMOLED) Omnia and the (very nice crisp LCD) HTC Mozart, the latter fits the hand better of course due to size, but in the end the slick all black face of the Omnia, adorned with its high contrast SAMOLED screen, just made it worth it despite the low actual PPI!
It would have been nice if the rockers and camera buttons where more metallic or... metal, but instead they are old school black plastic. They work well nonetheless.
The home button is also not the most premium of push switches (compared to iPhone of course) but it is nice to have a soild key!
I would urge you to get both of these devices side by side in the store if you can, but be careful because it took me at least 20 minutes to tell the man which one I wanted to take out lol...
Here are a few pics of the construction as links:

I'm jealous. I have about 2 weeks before WP7 comes out in the US. That and you guys got the better selection of phones (minus Micro SD expansion). I am definitely getting the Focus though. Best choice out of the options available in my opinion.

ryotgz said:
I'm jealous. I have about 2 weeks before WP7 comes out in the US. That and you guys got the better selection of phones (minus Micro SD expansion). I am definitely getting the Focus though. Best choice out of the options available in my opinion.
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It's very un-Microsoft!

Freypal said:
The build quality of the Omnia is one of the things that worries me after reports like this and the issues with the Galaxy series.
Evilanglic, since you now have your hands on one, what are your impressions of the device? Does it seem solid?
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Yeah. I wont touch a single Samsung phone after the trouble the Vibrant gave my stepmom. It's not fun trying to give tech support to someone 1500 miles away, over the phone with the issues, to a lady with no clue about technology.
EDIT: It reminded me of the time I had to help someone with Windows ME. They didn't know where the "desktop" was! As you can imagine, that was a loooooong phone call.

ericc191 said:
Yeah. I wont touch a single Samsung phone after the trouble the Vibrant gave my stepmom. It's not fun trying to give tech support to someone 1500 miles away, over the phone with the issues, to a lady with no clue about technology.
EDIT: It reminded me of the time I had to help someone with Windows ME. They didn't know where the "desktop" was! As you can imagine, that was a loooooong phone call.
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I've owned a few samsungs in the past (years ago lol), and they didn't give me any trouble. I suppose it was before the major smartphone race of the the last few years though haha.
I only went for the Omnia after holding it myself, there was no way I was going to order a Samsung phone without getting into a store and exploring it - but it was more solid than expected.
Hopefully if there are any support problems in the future, I will just take it to the high street store I got it from and play super dumb and demand a replacement or different phone lol... no harm done.
It seems like a negative thing to say but keep in mind that the phone really is good right now, no problems at all, everything works perfectly so far.
Note for those not in the know: the location based issues of Android Samsungs are not present here! On maps it focuses down with GSM triangulation and GPS pinpoint kicks in a couple of seconds later, super speedy!

Well that's a relief. I suppose the biggest factor that makes it feel so much better is that it's got some metal, right?

Mine's just arrived.
First impressions are very good. It feels very sturdy with no creaks and the metal casing is nice. It feels much more solid than my HTC Blackstone, although I am worried about such a large screen getting damaged!
It's going to have to stay off whilst the sim card registers. Annoying wait ahead!

How come you got this over the mozart?

chex13 said:
How come you got this over the mozart?
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I was reading conflicting reviews on the Mozart's camera and since I mainly use my mobile for web browsing the extra screen acres sold it for me.
The screen quality is awsome by the way. The device also looks way better in the flesh. It seems it may also have Cornings gorilla glass which would be a welcome addition!

Freypal said:
I was reading conflicting reviews on the Mozart's camera and since I mainly use my mobile for web browsing the extra screen acres sold it for me.
The screen quality is awsome by the way. The device also looks way better in the flesh. It seems it may also have Cornings gorilla glass which would be a welcome addition!
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For web browsing I might have thought it possibly more comfortable to use the Mozart's SLCD with RGB pixels (higher subpixel count) if you have good eyes that is lol.
I just cant get over how amazing the 4" SAMOLED looks though...
Because of the all black screen surround, and the nature of the WP7 text laid out to the edge of the screen, it sort of looks like your phone is just one massive display, which a lot of it is... lol
The blacks of the SAMOLED just merge with the black surround! So cool.
Where does the screen end?! lol
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I am a happy omnia 7 owner. Just like what the other said, solid construction, beautiful screen.
But the build in app is sub-par (vs lg optimus) and I hope I don't regret choosing a device with 8GB of storage.
Cheers

A user over on MoDaCo forums is reporting that their T-Mobile account manager has told them that the Omnia 7 has been temporarily pulled due to software issues.
I've been waiting on one of these for some time as well, and was told today that their most recent update for handset stocks (issued internally today) did not include a new batch of Omnia 7s. The CSR I spoke to wouldn't be drawn on any specific problems with the handset, except to say that "there have been a few issues" with the ones we've received, and that I would be receiving a call in due course to let me know when mine would be delivered.
Does anyone else know anything about this?

gcaw - apparently they have dispatched Omnia 7's now on T-mobile, so I'd get on the phone ASAP.

risq - many thanks for letting me know about that. As it happens, fifteen hours after I'd made my previous post, I received a call from T-Mobile to let me know that they had stock and confirming delivery later today, but I'm grateful that you informed me of that - and hopefully others will have taken note of that information and successfully placed orders themselves.
I was also pleased to hear from the CSR (the same one I spoke to yesterday) that T-Mobile is extending the same deal to new Omnia 7 owners as it offers to Android buyers, giving 3GB of monthly data usage at no additional cost, rather than the standard 1GB offered under the fair usage policy for other handsets.
Compared with the rather pitiful 500MB offered on O2's contracts, that's a pretty awesome deal.

QC seems top notch!
Posted this on another forum. I'm happy about the build:
Well it had to happen sooner or later, in under a week I've dropped the Omnia 7 while lazily trying to hit snooze just moments ago (typing this message with my phone now lol). Dropped from about table height, and while it was dark, sounded like it landed on a corner first... Picked it up in the dark and dropped it again, this time hitting face flat on the ground.. My floors got a wood finish on top of a normal concrete slab so its pretty solid. Shocked and not feeling so lazy anymore, turned lights on, inspected phone, and absolutely no scratches to be seen...i think this is due to the matte looking polycarbonate plastic they use, plus the color looking like its been amalgamated with the actual plastic, I say this because I remember on my htc touch HD the bezel would scratch/chip so easily because all it was was some cheap paint over plastic/metal? As for glass, i read it's gorilla glass, whether or not it is, I'm glad it isn't scratched... My screen protector can't come soon enough,
Either way, I'm glad to know the Omnia7 is a solid beast . Though in truth, after dropping it, my excitement and feelings of it being a new toy has slightly washed off... My feeling now is 'it might be damaged somewhere'

This phone has the worst build quality ever.

My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.

Pictures?

Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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think you were just very unlucky (or else they were trollin' and kept sending you the same one back lol)
my second one isnt 100% perfect, but for me even a 100% perfect galaxy s4 wouldnt be close to tempting me away from a 99% perfect One.

Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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FYI, the Nexus 4 was made by LG...
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Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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i think this phone build quality is really great if i'm honest, the Samsungs plastic feel/build quality is a lot worse, perhaps you were just unlucky in the handsets you received out of the box

We have more than few threads discussing imperfections and issues on early batch
HTC subtly admitted it when they delayed the entire launch and specifically mentioned camera and casing as the reason, yes they called it short of supplies but it actually meant they discovered low yields
Anyway all you can do is either wait for the April batches and exchange or start now until u get a perfect one
What is for sure however what you have now is not a proper representation for this device final build quality
keywords: Defect, Warranty
We had the same drama during the One X, defects cleared within 2 months, or took me 2 exchanges, my final one was manufactured in April

Enjoy the GS4 :thumbup:
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Venekor said:
My first one had dead pixels and was scuffed already from just being in the box. My second one wouldn't charge and was scuffed in the box. I've got my third one but it's scuffed in the box, though so far nothing else wrong with it. However each one has had a problem where the speaker covers don't sit flush, like... I swear they're glued on because you can push them in, should be screwed in tbh. What I've noticed as well is the metal has been poorly cut, it's not level, it has little marks in it and especially around the 3.5mm jack and USB port, the metal is rather jaggy and part of the plastic is flaking away too.
I'm interested in a second one, just badly made phones, I swear HTC have downgrading their quality inspection to get these phones out like those horrible Nexus 4 phones. I'm just gonna get a refund and buy that ugly boring GS4, it's basically the same phone only Samsung Phones I've had in the past have been properly made.
I wanted to like this phone, I'm bored of the Galaxy design, however... the phone quality just sucks.
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in 13 march you said
,,I want plastic, I want a removable battery and a Micro SD. You know the only reason they want to design these features out is cause it saves money, they can charge for cloud storage and they blame a removable battery and Micro SD for helping piracy along. It's all about stopping your choice and the irony of it is, taking these features out probably costs less, is less premium and these "premium" metal and glass materials just means more money for this companies in repairs, especially with a non removable battery.,,
and you didn,t like either htc one camera
,,The camera has a lot of noise, not very sharp either,,
but you still bought HTC ONE, and also changed TWICE...
VERY INTERSTING FACTS

I'm gonna have to refund it and get another phone soon because you only get like a month to change your mind....
The camera I didn't think would be this bad quality, it's like super grainy to the point where if you zoom in slightly, there is no quality what do ever.
The only thing I like is the speakers on the front, though the headphone quality sucks? It's nowhere near as good as my 920 was. The screen is too small also for a 1080 display... I don't see anything super exciting about it.
Just not impressed and the imperfections disappoint me.
Edit: Also why does the phone only charge when it is off?

Pictures of your defects please or don't blame anyone accusing of trolling

Venekor said:
I'm gonna have to refund it and get another phone soon because you only get like a month to change your mind....
The camera I didn't think would be this bad quality, it's like super grainy to the point where if you zoom in slightly, there is no quality what do ever.
The only thing I like is the speakers on the front, though the headphone quality sucks? It's nowhere near as good as my 920 was. The screen is too small also for a 1080 display... I don't see anything super exciting about it.
Just not impressed and the imperfections disappoint me.
Edit: Also why does the phone only charge when it is off?
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are you sure you didn't get one of these?? LOL
http://fenxiao.hdc.cn/product_detail-106.aspx

djbenny1 said:
are you sure you didn't get one of these?? LOL
http://fenxiao.hdc.cn/product_detail-106.aspx
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Venekor said:
I'm gonna have to refund it and get another phone soon because you only get like a month to change your mind....
The camera I didn't think would be this bad quality, it's like super grainy to the point where if you zoom in slightly, there is no quality what do ever.
The only thing I like is the speakers on the front, though the headphone quality sucks? It's nowhere near as good as my 920 was. The screen is too small also for a 1080 display... I don't see anything super exciting about it.
Just not impressed and the imperfections disappoint me.
Edit: Also why does the phone only charge when it is off?
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Yeah you clearly stated you would never own a phone without an SD slot or removable battery. You either changed your mind from a very long winded statement bashing the one or your trolling. And three phones? You have had three defective phones Sent to you?
With a delayed launch and low inventory and the phone just released you have been able to get three phones?
Bull****
Edit. This is obviously a troll thread and should be closed
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Just another f*cking (HTC-)Hater/(Samsung-)Fanboy...
Nothing to note here.
Hater or Fanboy... whatever... IGNORE...
Objective opinion...
Subjective opinion...
There is no perfect phone
There is also no scrapphone (except I(gitt...)Phone) :laugh:
Close this ****

He has had the s2 and s3 lol. I mean yeah everyone has an opinion but this is just bizarre behavior. Maybe Samsung is paying him like twenty dollars or whatever currency he uses to write this.
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Dam trolls!

fernando sor said:
He has had the s2 and s3 lol. I mean yeah everyone has an opinion but this is just bizarre behavior. Maybe Samsung is paying him like twenty dollars or whatever currency he uses to write this.
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Sounds a lot like he just took information from threads where people said they didn't like x feature, combined them all into one massive "I hate this phone" thread, and probably doesn't even own the phone.

I was wondering how he could see dead pixel on 468 PPI
I'm loving my HTC One. What a phone
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it wouldn't be a surprise, its not the first thread of such nature

WARNING! Read before considering a Moto G

I've had a pretty bad experience with my Moto G, so thought I'd leave a friendly warning for anyone on the fence about this phone, or even for those who already own one. I ordered one of these from Tesco about a month ago for £129. After 2 weeks of taking perfectly good care of it as I do with all my devices, I had the unfortunate situation occur of it falling, less than 2 feet I might add, from my bed onto the wooden floor. My first thoughts were, damn I should be more careful, but was incredibly shocked to find when picking it up that the screen was completely smashed.
Having owned many smart phones over the years, they have all at one time or another taken a fall far greater than this, yet this is the first time I've ever had a screen smash on me. Still in shock at how it could break so easily I did some research online, got some contact information for Motorola, who replied giving me a number for the repair center. I phoned them and was given a quote of £59. Feeling annoyed at the price, I still decided to send it off, thinking that despite how easily it had broken, it had still fallen and Motorola had only my word that it was less than 2 feet.
A few days later I received the quote through the post, for £71, with a £15 charge if I decided I didn't want to go through with it and wanted the phone back, otherwise they destroy it. This almost felt like holding my phone ransom. Still, none of this is what I'm here to warn you about, the biggest problem I had with this situation, and the reason I'll never purchase a Motorola phone again, is the responses I got when contacting Motorola again. Being unhappy about being charged more than I was originally quoted on the phone plus a ransom fee if i wanted the phone back un-repaired, I e-mail Motorola again to complain, firstly about the cost, secondly about the structural weakness of the phone, that something was clearly wrong for it to smash so easily.
They responded with a very frank reply saying the Moto G is not shock or knock proof and was never advertised as being so, they also claimed the repair price is standard and correct, but didn't bother explaining why I was lied to on the phone. I then replied explaining that I knew full well it wasn't advertised as shock/knock/bullet proof, but that there are basic levels of durability that you expect when buying something, they are not advertised because they are common sense and taken for granted, and the Moto G didn't come close to meeting them, whether I had a dodgy unit or it's the whole range. They replied saying the Moto G is a "budget device", and that it's "not capable of withstanding any knocks whatsoever".
I made it very clear in my messages about how easily the screen shattered, and they are saying they are ok with that, it's expected, and basically saying you get what you pay for, so be warned, you might think you're getting a bargain, as I did, but as Motorola were keen to point out, if you pay a budget price for a phone, expect it to fall apart at the slightest knock.

Your mileage may vary I have dropped my lady moto g a few times so has she our only issue with the phone is our network and at times the radios itself.
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Durteedee said:
Your mileage may vary I have dropped my lady moto g a few times so has she our only issue with the phone is our network and at times the radios itself.
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My problem isn't necessarily that the phone broke, although obviously that is a problem, the issue is with Motorola itself, fully understanding how easily the screen cracked, treating the situation though it's expected to break, and then using the price to justify how incredibly fragile the build quality was.
I have no problem posting their e-mails here if anyone want to see them in full to see how frank they are about the lack of quality of the Moto G because it's "budget" I was a little shocked by them, so told them if this really is their attitude the public deserves to know, and they welcomed me to share "my opinion" with people, so I'm sure they'd welcome we posting their responses here if anyone is interested.

Solaris81 said:
My problem isn't necessarily that the phone broke, although obviously that is a problem, the issue is with Motorola itself, fully understanding how easily the screen cracked, treating the situation though it's expected to break, and then using the price to justify how incredibly fragile the build quality was.
I have no problem posting their e-mails here if anyone want to see them in full to see how frank they are about the lack of quality of the Moto G because it's "budget" I was a little shocked by them, so told them if this really is their attitude the public deserves to know, and they welcomed me to share "my opinion" with people, so I'm sure they'd welcome we posting their responses here if anyone is interested.
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Again mileage may vary depending on what it may be, something their fault covered by warranty something your fault its just that. I get they lied to you that was wrong to do followed by not telling you why they lied it could be you got someone new or someone covering their rear ends
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1) Sometimes it is not the height, but the angle of you dropped the phone. I also had a Nexus One shattering its screen from a minor fall, but my other HTC, LG and Motorola phones survive drops that are much taller. Also Moto G has the latest Gorilla Glass 3; I honestly doubt if it had been any other phone it would fare any better. And if you have a shatter iphone screen, it cost a lot more than 70 quid to fix it.
2) Welcome to real life kid. If I drive a car with problems into a repair shop, I will be charged even without any fixes being performed. It is called labour, shipping and handling, and whatever. Motorola is not under any obligation to mail your phone back for free. Motorola employees who opened your package, logged the item, performed a visual inspection are not volunteers.
3) You are absolutely right to be ticked off when you were quoted £59 and then £71. I would be. You absolutely have the right not to buy any future products. It is called poor customer services on their part.
These are separate issues. But for its price, Moto G has no comparison in terms of build quality.

I would be ticked off, but most servicing costs by the half hour. The design has to take into account some misuse, but it's a grey area and hard to dispute whether the industrial designers made a poor design judgement or your actions were outside the specifications it was designed for. You could always take it to a consumer ombudsman.
Would a screen protector have help in this situation (envisages dropping phone)?

Tempered glass screen protector.
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Tempered glass screen protector.
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I'm thinking that it's a must have...

I saw in youtube drop test for MOTO G and yes it broke, the screen was shattered. This happens to every phone, high end phone's screen can be broken as well when you drop it, we need to be careful and protect our phone.

Moto G feels like a sturdy, well built devce. I haven't dropped mine yet. I guess it is the angle at which you dropped the phone which caused the screen to crack or the phone itself was faulty. I still feel it is better built compared to other plasticky samsung phones.

£59 is the ex-VAT price. 20% VAT takes it up to £71. A standard sneaky trick usually carried out by garages on the unsuspecting and totally illegal. Get in contact with trading standards.
In future, whenever getting a quote online or on the phone, check that VAT is included and always take down the name of the person you have been talking with.

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In future, whenever getting a quote online or on the phone, check that VAT is included and always take down the name of the person you have been talking with.
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I second that, I've lost count of the amount of times I've been happy with customer service to find they told me wrong advice and I couldn't prove who I had spoken to, first thing I do now, write their name + time of call ect.
Also, with my old iPhone 4S I dropped it over 20 times mostly over 3 or 4 foot and only scuffed slightly in the edges, then I dropped it from roughly 2 foot and it completely shattered to bits.
It really is about the angle you drop it at BUT... I took it into the apple shop and they swapped out no questions asked to my surprise, I may have been a lucky one but I was sold on apples customer service then (pity they make such terrible restrictions on there phones, Android FTW).
So yeah, bad on customer service for Motorola, have you searched weather you could fix it your self for cheaper? Screens are usually cheap online and cheap torx set. Failing that, unfortunately recycle online and buy a new one + case?
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I've thrown my phone, drop it, and purposely to see how it will do and not one scratch on screen and little scratches on the side. Guess I just gotten lucky
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Think you must have been unlucky and it has fallen at just the wrong angle,havant dropped mine but their are a few youtube vids around where it has survived a reasonable fall.
build quality seems decent for a budget unit.
one of the problems of buying a cheap phone is the cost of repair, its usually not worth doing as its almost the price of just replacing with a new phone.
If your unhappy by the product and the way your issue was dealt with then your quite right to keep away from moto products in the future..

903tex said:
I've thrown my phone, drop it, and purposely to see how it will do and not one scratch on screen and little scratches on the side. Guess I just gotten lucky
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Wow, you must have lots of spare money.

The only problem I've come across so far is that the play store hardly ever works. :/

Falls from greater heights are better because the phone has more time to rotate and land, hopefully, horizontally. Dropping it from a short distance to the ground increases the chance of it falling diagonally.

Solaris81 said:
I had the unfortunate situation occur of it falling, less than 2 feet I might add, from my bed onto the wooden floor. My first thoughts were, damn I should be more careful, but was incredibly shocked to find when picking it up that the screen was completely smashed.
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Ottorbox provides good protection but adds too much bulk to the phone. I have an amzer tpu case on my moto g.
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No provider will EVER replace a phone with a cracked screen. As you say you dropped it...get over it.

Nexus 6 Quality Issues (2 out of 2 phones)

So, I bought a Nexus 6 for my wife and at first it was great. But a few weeks later, she was complaining about the camera. I check it out and there is definitely something wrong. It seems that sometimes when the camera focuses, the optical image stabilizer would jump around. It moves so much, that it seems to hit it's limits and you hear it "click". Makes recording videos useless. Worse than having no stabilizer at all.
We're beyond the 14-day return period for Sprint, so I do an advanced exchange RMA with Motorola. Two days later, the replacement phone arrives. It looks like a brand-new sealed box. But when I take the phone out, I see the back cover is separating from the phone. How does the phone like this even get put into a box? Unless the back cover separated after it was placed inside? I didn't even bother to try to turn it on and contacted Motorola via online chat. We'll see what the next steps are, but so far, I'm not impressed with the quality control. Customer service response is pretty good so far.
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I am not going to say its anyone's fault but could be multiple things .... Have you seen how package companies treat packages they are shipping .... But yes more than likely that is a problem from factory
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Yeah, but not in this case. The box had a few minor dings, but was in otherwise near-perfect condition. The seal was still in perfect shape.

Looks like the battery ploded
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I had the same,
but not with the back cover problem. I had my original Nexus 6 replaced 2 times.
Within 3-4 days of minimal use my nexus 6 was getting a deep scratch on the screen which was very annoying.
This is the 3rd nexus 6 i am using and i did not take out the protector with which it came with until i bought a screen guard.
So i am still worried, if i take out the screen guard it will get a scratch again.
GG3 does not seem to be implemented in nexus 6 i guess.

After three weeks, my camera got progressively worse, taking blurry shots and double exposures,.. Looked like the optical stabilization failed, I got RMA started on 30 Dec, but finally I should receive My replacement today..... Here's hoping I don't have problems.

udimars30 said:
I had the same,
but not with the back cover problem. I had my original Nexus 6 replaced 2 times.
Within 3-4 days of minimal use my nexus 6 was getting a deep scratch on the screen which was very annoying.
This is the 3rd nexus 6 i am using and i did not take out the protector with which it came with until i bought a screen guard.
So i am still worried, if i take out the screen guard it will get a scratch again.
GG3 does not seem to be implemented in nexus 6 i guess.
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I've been using mine for more than two weeks now without any screen protector and the screen is perfect! I even carry it in my bag together with my Lumia 1520 and no problems at all! And Yes, the Nexus 6 IS with Gorilla Glass 3! I've seen people trying very hard to scratch this glass and they have all failed!

OrionBG said:
I've been using mine for more than two weeks now without any screen protector and the screen is perfect! I even carry it in my bag together with my Lumia 1520 and no problems at all! And Yes, the Nexus 6 IS with Gorilla Glass 3! I've seen people trying very hard to scratch this glass and they have all failed!
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It scratches Buddy trust me. My nexus 5 has a few

I replaced my att nexus 6 5 times for various problem. I don't want to get it started here. Anyways, I was expecting a lot better build quaility for this price point comparing to N5. I am really disappointed. GG Motorola.

What camera are you using to take the pictures of the Defects?
The warranty process with Motorola is always good. The advance exchange program is what sets Motorola apart from the rest. I had to replace a Moto G once through this program, and very seamless with 2-day shipping.
ken830 said:
So, I bought a Nexus 6 for my wife and at first it was great. But a few weeks later, she was complaining about the camera. I check it out and there is definitely something wrong. It seems that sometimes when the camera focuses, the optical image stabilizer would jump around. It moves so much, that it seems to hit it's limits and you hear it "click". Makes recording videos useless. Worse than having no stabilizer at all.
We're beyond the 14-day return period for Sprint, so I do an advanced exchange RMA with Motorola. Two days later, the replacement phone arrives. It looks like a brand-new sealed box. But when I take the phone out, I see the back cover is separating from the phone. How does the phone like this even get put into a box? Unless the back cover separated after it was placed inside? I didn't even bother to try to turn it on and contacted Motorola via online chat. We'll see what the next steps are, but so far, I'm not impressed with the quality control. Customer service response is pretty good so far.
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arjun90 said:
What camera are you using to take the pictures of the Defects?
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A Canon 70D with a Sigma 18-35 f/1.8.

Ha, no wonder your pictures are so darn good. I need an SLR!
Thank you.
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A Canon 70D with a Sigma 18-35 f/1.8.
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On my 5th (One DOA). My current device has the loud, clicky haptic feedback. I've had HTC devices that had clicky haptic, but this is the worst I've experienced. I'm just going to keep it unless it gets worse. After all the screen uniformity issues I've seen, I have no energy left to play the RMA lottery anymore.
Love/hate relationship.
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I am getting my T-Mobile warranty phone today next day shipping. OIS failed, bad battery (max 4 hr SOT), yellow screen even when RGB'd and red when low brightness, noisy vibration. Hope this one is better or I'll be jumping to a Z3 possibly. My GF had to warranty her Z3 for a dead LCD so I'm not convinced it'd be better...

ken830 said:
So, I bought a Nexus 6 for my wife and at first it was great. But a few weeks later, she was complaining about the camera. I check it out and there is definitely something wrong. It seems that sometimes when the camera focuses, the optical image stabilizer would jump around. It moves so much, that it seems to hit it's limits and you hear it "click". Makes recording videos useless. Worse than having no stabilizer at all.
We're beyond the 14-day return period for Sprint, so I do an advanced exchange RMA with Motorola. Two days later, the replacement phone arrives. It looks like a brand-new sealed box. But when I take the phone out, I see the back cover is separating from the phone. How does the phone like this even get put into a box? Unless the back cover separated after it was placed inside? I didn't even bother to try to turn it on and contacted Motorola via online chat. We'll see what the next steps are, but so far, I'm not impressed with the quality control. Customer service response is pretty good so far.
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Just a few observations. The phone would never be able to fit in the box with any bulge. Secondly, for a bulge to be that size it would be there are a lot of torque, yet the sides are popping off. The backcover is flexible but not so flexible as to do that where only that portion pops up like that. Perhaps a thin plastic like the Note 4, but not the hard plastic on the Nexus 6. As bad as the QC is, the factory or the guy would have to be insane to let that out of the factory. The visible glue suggests excessive pulling force. Seems like a botched attempt at removing the back to me

situman said:
Just a few observations. The phone would never be able to fit in the box with any bulge. Secondly, for a bulge to be that size it would be there are a lot of torque, yet the sides are popping off. The backcover is flexible but not so flexible as to do that where only that portion pops up like that. Perhaps a thin plastic like the Note 4, but not the hard plastic on the Nexus 6. As bad as the QC is, the factory or the guy would have to be insane to let that out of the factory. The visible glue suggests excessive pulling force. Seems like a botched attempt at removing the back to me
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I don't have an obligation to defend myself, but I can assure you that the phone came out of the box like that. The bulge is only on one edge and it is maybe 1/8"? That's not enough to "burst" out of the box. It's definitely close-able, even if the phone is not lying completely flat. But think about this logically -- what reason do I have to make a post like this if I had somehow botched an attempt at removing the back? And what's the reason for removing the back cover anyhow? Is there something I can get to that I'm not aware of? And if I were trying to remove the back, well, it doesn't look botched at all -- Why not just continue to pull the back off? I would be half-way there. It just doesn't make any sense.

ken830 said:
I don't have an obligation to defend myself, but I can assure you that the phone came out of the box like that. The bulge is only on one edge and it is maybe 1/8"? That's not enough to "burst" out of the box. It's definitely close-able, even if the phone is not lying completely flat. But think about this logically -- what reason do I have to make a post like this if I had somehow botched an attempt at removing the back? And what's the reason for removing the back cover anyhow? Is there something I can get to that I'm not aware of? And if I were trying to remove the back, well, it doesn't look botched at all -- Why not just continue to pull the back off? I would be half-way there. It just doesn't make any sense.
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I think the problem is your pic of the phone is so darn good. Aw, SLRs. The good old days. Everyone is used to ****ty cell phone pics now.
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Received my RMA and it was not in new packaging but had a factory screen protector. OIS works on this and the vibration is not fudged.

I read about the lifting problem on Phandroid, but the picture they posted wasn't nearly as bad as this one. Your experience is probably an exception amongst exceptions.

I feel sorry for you,I hope it resolves well.
I have two (white) Nexus 6's coming from Amazon France (apparently it has a full warranty on them so..), now getting a bit worried that the quality might not be up to par. For the price point, I was expecting better. I've seen more than enough articles/posts on the net from people with problems; for the lack of phones currently releasing in the market, I'd say a good amount have defects. Hopefully the two phones I've just ordered have come from a 'second'/newer batch produced with higher QC, and hopefully your replacement for this 2nd Nexus you have is also the same.
Good luck!

Verizon has the Pixel2's in store on the floor

I just left the Verizon store in Sugar Land, they have Hands-On units to play with if you guys are interested.

What's your hands-on review?

I thought about going in to check one out. Then I decided not to torture myself like that. I gave up masochism years ago.

I played with one today for about 2 minutes in a store by my house and I liked it. It was noticeably snappier than my 6p and felt great in my hand. Didn't have time to mess with camera but I'm now even more excited to get my 2 xl in 2 weeks (or less)
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galaxys said:
What's your hands-on review?
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I must say, the speakers are very nice. The stupid tether that Verizon, and everyone else uses kills the true hands on experience. The phone is barely bigger than my v30, Sleek and sexy. I am sure you'll enjoy it.

[email protected] said:
I must say, the speakers are very nice. The stupid tether that Verizon, and everyone else uses kills the true hands on experience. The phone is barely bigger than my v30, Sleek and sexy. I am sure you'll enjoy it.
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Im thinking of getting the V30 instead. Which do you like more?

[email protected] said:
I must say, the speakers are very nice. The stupid tether that Verizon, and everyone else uses kills the true hands on experience. The phone is barely bigger than my v30, Sleek and sexy. I am sure you'll enjoy it.
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As I walked into Verizon they were about to mount the pixel 2 xl so they let me play with it before they mounted and it felt really great in the hand, alot lighter than I anticipated, and the texture on the metal felt suprising premium, I thought it was going to feel like a cheap phone case

capsnbottles said:
Im thinking of getting the V30 instead. Which do you like more?
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I'm an Android purist. I go through phones like nobody's business. Ive always kept a Nexus or Pixel, as phones get released, I pick one up. This year I've had the Pixel XL, all year, along with it I had iPhone 7+, G6, S8 plus, Note 8, V30, in that order, as they are released. Before that, rinse and repeat.
I say this to express that the V30 is by far the hardest to leave behind, I may not. It's sleek, fast and checks ALL of the boxes, except Pure Android, and dual speakers.
The pixel misses, the wireless charging, and expandable storage.
The killer feature I was going to pass on the Pixel for is the 71 band for TMobile, but sadly it a year and a half from being deployed in my area.
You will not go won't with the V30. It is awesome! Best phone I've used to date... And that's AALLLL of them worth checking out.
But the speakers man, the speakers. The pure Android experience... Ridiculously pleasant to use for me.

Got my hands on one today as well
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How is screen quality against samsung?
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I'll go this weekend and compare with my N8
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If anyone has a chance if they go look at one, enable development options, if possible on a demo version, and see if OEM unlock is there and if it is greyed out. I am also going to try to get over to Verizon tomorrow and check this out and will post a pic if I happen to make it over there.

galaxys said:
What's your hands-on review?
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I played with it yesterday, phone is nice but doesn't feel like a premium hardware specially when compared to Note 8 or V30.
Minus the pure Android and Camera - it's like many chinese branded $400 - $500 phone.

I didn't get that at all

pimpmaneaton said:
If anyone has a chance if they go look at one, enable development options, if possible on a demo version, and see if OEM unlock is there and if it is greyed out. I am also going to try to get over to Verizon tomorrow and check this out and will post a pic if I happen to make it over there.
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I went to the store today and tried to enable developer options, the Verizon store sample did not allow me to do it. I went to about phone and clicked on everything 8+ times and nothing happened. I have used a stock phone in a while, so unless it was move I couldn't do it.
I spent a little more time with both phones. The 2xl feels very good in the hand imo. I also like the regular pixel 2. To me that felt more comfortable in the hand because it was smaller.
The screen on the 2xl is good. I liked the feel better than my S8+. Because the 2xl is a little wider and has a more solid feel on the sides it felt better than my Samsung. I have good size hands, I can palm a basketball, and on the 2xl my inner thumb or palm doesn't touch the curved screen. On my S8+ my inner hand meat can touch the screen when I reach across with my thumb.

Here are some photos of the 2xl and side by side with a screen burned Pixel XL
I also made sure the brightness was a 50% for both phones. You can see the POLED screen looks brighter.

XL2 Screen looks great, and those bezels look so much better!

Bxrider117 said:
I went to the store today and tried to enable developer options, the Verizon store sample did not allow me to do it. I went to about phone and clicked on everything 8+ times and nothing happened. I have used a stock phone in a while, so unless it was move I couldn't do it.
I spent a little more time with both phones. The 2xl feels very good in the hand imo. I also like the regular pixel 2. To me that felt more comfortable in the hand because it was smaller.
The screen on the 2xl is good. I liked the feel better than my S8+. Because the 2xl is a little wider and has a more solid feel on the sides it felt better than my Samsung. I have good size hands, I can palm a basketball, and on the 2xl my inner thumb or palm doesn't touch the curved screen. On my S8+ my inner hand meat can touch the screen when I reach across with my thumb.
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I went back today and enabled developers options. And the bootloader is definitely locked. So glad I ordered mine from Google and completely unlocked. I spent more time with it today and it's a terrific phone. Snappy and the screen looked great. Brightness was all the way up and I didn't try to make any adjustments. Phone feels good and looks good. I understand why some people prefer the LG v30 and it's a great alternative but I think the 2 xl will make plenty of people happy.
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I tested it out today as well and didn't get a "plastic-feeling" phone. The metal had a grainy texture to it and felt quite nice. I tested the XL since that's what I ordered. Didn't bother with the regular one. People said there was a "coating" on the metal, but I didn't seem to notice one like on the G5. That one felt like it had a clear rubber case on the metal.

Thanks for those pics @Bxrider117
Had to go the upsstore today and the verizon next door on Tyvola Rd on my side of Charlotte did not have them in. Told the nicer of the two guys I was interested in seeing the poled screen, explained how I'd heard on xda of the banding and not good quality in the other thread. One guy swooped in on me telling me how I could know or even say that for a phone that hasn't been released yet! I told him that the good verizon stores had demos. What a dummy, HIS store is supposed to have them but they said the google rep could not get any for them.
Yea right. "Believe half of what I see, and none of what I hear......Talkin' `bout my friend George" *Lou Reed
Your pics do give me some assurance that I won't have to send my blk64g 2xl back when it gets here!