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ZE551ML and ZE550ML are currently being tested for Android M. It's not yet on the announcement board of zentalk but a moderator categorically replied to my thread in zentalk and confirmed that it's already starting the development stage. (see attached photo)
Link : http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=51072&extra=page=1&mobile=2

@ASUS_Khang, would you kindly comment on this as to how we are going to accept and understand the statement given?? Thanks

I just read that as, they are testing to see if it's capable of running it. Not that they're actually doing anything about it. I just want 5.1.1 and the lack of that is bloody annoying. Come on asus.
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High expectations, high disappointment. Just like 5.1
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iancjc said:
I just read that as, they are testing to see if it's capable of running it. Not that they're actually doing anything about it. I just want 5.1.1 and the lack of that is bloody annoying. Come on asus.
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Don't wanna be too optimistic and rude at the same time. But isn't testing it on those devices implies plan to implement. Otherwise why test if there is no clear plan of development? Again am not being too optimistic just looking at all possible angles.
Just my two cents.

I was trying to analyze the message ARP_ASUS said, if they are testing it on ZE551ML and ZE550ML. Then definitely there is a source code available and optimize already for x86 device.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but u can't test something on a x86 device if you don't have a Android M source code specifically for x86 right?

Asus is not even capable of giving us 5.1. Forget about 6.0.
Just my humble opinion.
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Man, I sure do love Monday morning volatility and vitriol, don't you?
Short of an announcement on their official pages, I'd still take any confirmation of the Marshmallow update, even on the official forums from a mod as a response, with a bit of salt. That being said, this is quite interesting. It seems like it is a firm statement that the pre-Zenfone 2 devices will not be updated by ASUS to 6 (not extremely surprising but it's a good gauge for us as to potential expected device support longevity).
Indeed, testing implies development. There have been times in the past where a company has tested an update and, in the end, chosen not to finalize and push it out (Atrix 4g comes to mind, since the development builds were eventually leaked showing that work had been done trying to get it to work). With the relatively close system requirements changes between Lollipop and Marshmallow, that probably won't be a factor in it. I'm not sure how those x86 Intel sources factor into it, but with actual testing being done that builds up my optimism!

Level99 said:
Man, I sure do love Monday morning volatility and vitriol, don't you?
Short of an announcement on their official pages, I'd still take any confirmation of the Marshmallow update, even on the official forums from a mod as a response, with a bit of salt. That being said, this is quite interesting. It seems like it is a firm statement that the pre-Zenfone 2 devices will not be updated by ASUS to 6 (not extremely surprising but it's a good gauge for us as to potential expected device support longevity).
Indeed, testing implies development. There have been times in the past where a company has tested an update and, in the end, chosen not to finalize and push it out (Atrix 4g comes to mind, since the development builds were eventually leaked showing that work had been done trying to get it to work). With the relatively close system requirements changes between Lollipop and Marshmallow, that probably won't be a factor in it. I'm not sure how those x86 Intel sources factor into it, but with actual testing being done that builds up my optimism!
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Yep and am pretty sure it's gonna be wild and filled with rants and complaints for the next few days in zentalk once the first gen or pre Zenfone 2 subgroup people read this and starts to sink in their heads. Lol
Not a clear road map as posted. But hey something is still better than being blind as to where zf2 is heading right??

nc and all but we don't even know if they will ever release it, just like that 5.1

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ASUS_Khang, would you kindly comment on this as to how we are going to accept and understand the statement given?? Thanks
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Hey - I can't really comment on what that means. Testing sounds great which gives me hope we'll see Android M, but that message in and of itself doesn't sound official enough for me. Again, I'm trying to help by asking HQ a ton of questions and seeing what the plan is. These things take a ton of time because they need to go through a lot of people. All I can ask is for your patience and understanding.
I plan on following up with HQ about this.

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Hey - I can't really comment on what that means. Testing sounds great which gives me hope we'll see Android M, but that message in and of itself doesn't sound official enough for me. Again, I'm trying to help by asking HQ a ton of questions and seeing what the plan is. These things take a ton of time because they need to go through a lot of people. All I can ask is for your patience and understanding.
I plan on following up with HQ about this.
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Thanks, Keep us posted if something comes up.

I don't see why there is all this whinging about the Zenfone 2 on the forum.
It has got twice the ram and 4 times the storage of my previous phone (S4) for less than half the price of the S4.
Data and phone signals are as good or better than the S4 in my experience, and the phone is faster and smoother.
As to the ram leak, with 4gig who cares., and with 64gig internal and 64gig external I don't give a toss about the bloat.
Battery - with my usage the battery lasts 2 days, the same as my S4 now that it has lollipop.
Asus is putting out firmware updates regularly, they may not be 5.1.1 or 6.0, but if they improve the phone experience so what.
My only gripe with my phone so far is that I had to get it from Hong Kong, if Asus can sell it in France then they can get off their asses and sell it in the UK.

While I would fully expect Asus to provide an update to at least 5.1, or even 6.0, I believe in you get what you pay for. For a $300 phone, you get good bang for your buck, and I appreciate Asus having a rep stay active in the forum, Reddit, and ZenTalk.
There's nothing that says Asus has to provide this update, since it's not a Nexus device, and looking at models like Samsung LG, or Moto, it takes months to get their phones to what is or was the current iteration of Android.
I did however stick my faith in Asus for what I think is a good product, and this will be the determining factor as to if I ever purchase anything Asus again. I think a lot of people feel that way. We could have gone the Moto or even OPO route, but when went with Asus. It's up to them to keep us happy and coming back.

BigDavy said:
I don't see why there is all this whinging about the Zenfone 2 on the forum.
It has got twice the ram and 4 times the storage of my previous phone (S4) for less than half the price of the S4.
Data and phone signals are as good or better than the S4 in my experience, and the phone is faster and smoother.
As to the ram leak, with 4gig who cares., and with 64gig internal and 64gig external I don't give a toss about the bloat.
Battery - with my usage the battery lasts 2 days, the same as my S4 now that it has lollipop.
Asus is putting out firmware updates regularly, they may not be 5.1.1 or 6.0, but if they improve the phone experience so what.
My only gripe with my phone so far is that I had to get it from Hong Kong, if Asus can sell it in France then they can get off their asses and sell it in the UK.
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I saw it being sold on Amazon.co.uk, the ww version that was being shipped from Amazon UK, which is great if you have a problem and need to return it. Though I would suggest getting the US version if you are set on getting this phone, because it has more bands unlocked, which I will admit their bands are a huge plus on this phone. Keep in mind that the second sim only works on 2G voice/text and data is software blocked.

Hoping for fixing battery drain Android OS crap with 6.0
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To think about it i dont have so much hope in asus
But can you like flash a dev 6.0 rom or something like that from dev for zen

To be fair, Asus is still better than the likes of Oppo - many of their phones are still stuck on KitKat.

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Anyone a little shocked?

I am, and I'll tell you why.
Samsung hasn't even started building a GB ROM for our phone, and that's kind of weird to me, because I would think that they would have something.
I don't remember where I read this, and this could be wrong, but doesn't the carrier has to request the update, and then the manufacturer builds it? (I can be COMPLETELY wrong, so don't hold me to this) If that's true, then we may not see a GB build, because T-Mobile USA wouldn't request it.
Tell me what you think, because this interests me a lot.
Where did you get this info? that they haven't started the gingerbread for us.
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Where did you get this info? that they haven't started the gingerbread for us.
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http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/81421451059671040
http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/81257522966700032
There.
They posted the GS4G leak, the Cappy leak, and they have a leak for the Epic 4G.
since there have been no vibrant leaks, it automatically means they have not started building it?
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since there have been no vibrant leaks, it automatically means they have not started building it?
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It's not that, SamFirmware stated (and I honestly believe them, if they found all these leaks for other phones so quickly), that there's no Vibrant (SGH-T959) build, which could mean A LOT of things, possibly something as simple as Samsung is really lazy and doesn't want to upload it, but it would mean more.
I'm just saying, I don't know what's up, but I'd like to know more.
And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
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And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
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Unfortunately, this is most likely the truth. :/
I hope they don't forget us. All we want is a leak.
Relax, It'll be released in a couple months for sure. Enjoy the new ROM's with working GPS this weekend
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Relax, It'll be released in a couple months for sure. Enjoy the new ROM's with working GPS this weekend
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THAT's the only thing good thing for us about all these leaks, we have working GPS now.
djquick said:
And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
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I fart very fast...
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I noticed that as well. But you have to remember that T-Mobile plays real dirty. Remember when we had 2.2 leaks back late November (JK2)? It didn't become official until #NeverAgain made such a huge PR mess for them that Samsung & T-Mobile had to release it. But it was up until then, that T-Mobile didn't want to update out phones because of the pending MT4G & SGS4G release, dirty mfers...
By the way this issue gets more complicated now with the AT&T merger. AT&T strongly believes that updates are not good for business. From their point of view if they don't do updates it gives users more reasons to upgrade to new phones.
So if TMo was borderline crap about this already, the adoption by AT&T is only going to delay things further.
What does that mean for us, enjoy the awesome roms on xda and forget about TMo.
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Just read da tweets someone should just port from 4g to us
Ya boy
Ya, but Google kind of helped us all out with that. Its not up to the carriers if a phone is going to get an update anymore. If Manufactures want to use Android they have to abide by the 18 month update cycle this goes for carriers too. They have to provided updates to newer versions of Android during the first 18 month of a phones life. Our Vibrants really only have six months left of that 18 though. So don't expect an official Ice Cream Sandwich update. I wish google had been enforcing this rule back in the days of the original cliq and cliq xt. The poor XT didn't even get an update out of 1.5. I think Google has gotten tired of all the negative press that manufactures are developing because of the unwillingness to update phones. Of course as you we all know a lot of this has to do with carriers not wanting these updates or their need for unreasonable software packages they want add to the update packages.
How shock i am? Look at this pic.
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Hmm I don't see it as a problem, well at least as long as we have the vibrant 4g, I'm just waiting for the sgs2, then I'll be gone
Well we cant be mad at samsung as its not there fault its tmobil. Most of us will be moving to hercules or sgs2 anyway so no worries crying over this in my opinion.
Yeah, I think it's time to accept the likelihood that Samsung/T-mo won't be providing much further development or support for the Vibrant given the new product lines. It doesn't mean it'll be obsolete though. Thanks developers!
what does it matter? theres literaly pages upon pages of custom rom's out there that are 100000x BETTER Then what any company puts out in the first place.
im pretty sure for a big majority of people here the first thing they do when they get a new phone is wipe it out and start over fresh.
what is it you want exactly, a bloated gingerbread rom from samsung full of **** you dont need or use?
what a useless thread
j1635 said:
what does it matter? theres literaly pages upon pages of custom rom's out there that are 100000x BETTER Then what any company puts out in the first place.
im pretty sure for a big majority of people here the first thing they do when they get a new phone is wipe it out and start over fresh.
what is it you want exactly, a bloated gingerbread rom from samsung full of **** you dont need or use?
what a useless thread
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Believe me it does matter.
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4195 signatures! keep signing if you haven't yet done so.
theres no point in starting or doing one as they dont work... no body knows that ics is or is not coming to the galaxy s 1 only samaung dose
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theres no point in starting or doing one as they dont work... no body knows that ics is or is not coming to the galaxy s 1 only samaung dose
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they do work to some extent. samsung will probably decide the millions of sgs1 owners can just upgrade to a sgs2 or a sgn, and we'll be ignored unless we make our opinion known.
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they do work to some extent. samsung will probably decide the millions of sgs1 owners can just upgrade to a sgs2 or a sgn, and we'll be ignored unless we make our opinion known.
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Making our opinions known will not change the fact that it will cost Samsung money, and possibly prevent them from making money off of us buying newer phones.
If you want it that bad, either cross your fingers or wait for an unofficial release.
Honestly really not much point in doing so. I'd be surprised if Samsung made ICS available to the i9000, but however no petition will make them listen. Developing ICS for the i9000 will cost them a lot of money they will not be willing to spend as the phone is outdated by the SGS 2.
All this threads about ICS while it's not released yet make me feel concerned about xda mods mental sanity for the months to come.
I would MUCH rather we got a petition together to get Samsung to release driver details and source code for the i9000 so that the Cyanogen team can fix the RIL and 720p recording issues
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I would MUCH rather we got a petition together to get Samsung to release driver details and source code for the i9000 so that the Cyanogen team can fix the RIL and 720p recording issues
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if they do, it will be much easier porting ICS(or anything else, really) to our lovely device, where can i sign?
start a petiton stating if samsung drops firmware support for their still best selled device you will move to a brand that can deliver such updates - as "Galaxy Nexus" branch or any other phone maker that will continue to support their devices not promote/force you to use their latest devices to get updated firmware
$omator said:
start a petiton stating if samsung drops firmware support for their still best selled device you will move to a brand that can deliver such updates - as "Galaxy Nexus" branch or any other phone maker that will continue to support their devices not promote/force you to use their latest devices to get updated firmware
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Well, I am starting to think that we can't find one that has Android in it... Look even Google doesn't support their Nexus One that is more than capable to handle ICS. In less than 2 years time they will drop support for Galaxy Nexus claiming it is too old again... It's simply a shame.
It hurts me to say this but I am starting to admit that Android has failed in its purpose of proving that it was different in terms of policies than Apple. It's the same s***....
nexus one never was a primary phone for google - it was nexuss, but still i am suprised that they droped 'nexus one'
at least google will not get distorted like samsung with all their devices to release buggy firmwares
google devices always her latest and well developed updates & support - samsung fails to do that
and on the top of that 2 years is normal contract lenght (and most of us got 'contract phones')
so best time to sign new 'pact with the devil' and get new google phone
if nothing will change from samsung on that i will surley not buy samsung phone (but samsung+google yes due to 'working updates/support)
to be honest i see even wave/bada getting more attention/love from samsung
check this vid: [Wave 3] Official Live Demo
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nexus one never was a primary phone for google - it was nexuss, but still i am suprised that they droped 'nexus one'
at least google will not get distorted like samsung with all their devices to release buggy firmwares
google devices always her latest and well developed updates & support - samsung fails to do that
and on the top of that 2 years is normal contract lenght (and most of us got 'contract phones')
so best time to sign new 'pact with the devil' and get new google phone
if nothing will change from samsung on that i will surley not buy samsung phone (but samsung+google yes due to 'working updates/support)
to be honest i see even wave/bada getting more attention/love from samsung
check this vid: [Wave 3] Official Live Demo
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Don't be so sure that Google will be better than Samsung in that department. I don't think Nexus S will get a new major Android update after ICS but let's see...
This idea that you have to buy another phone every 2 years is completely out of reality. I don't want to spend 400€ for a new phone every 2 years. It's completely unacceptable. And if this rumor that I9000 is not getting it becomes true, then I will try my best to discourage Android for anyone I know and is thinking in getting a new phone. I suggest everyone else that feels like this to do the same and try to stop these companies of doing those practices.
NexusS will be supported until the phone that will follow Galaxy Nexus, something simmilar that we witness now
i get my phone for free every 2 years =) thats why i do not see a problem in exchanging it in this time period :]
trust me, no ics for i9000 is not an option, i9000 is their best seller for the moment.
leaving all shose people wo latest firmware upgrade would not be logic.
they are aware how many people would be pissed at them due that fact.
they were ahead when releasing sgs/nexuss now competition is catching up very quick
i do notthink that they are ready to piss so many people
question is how long will it be supported with ics updates and i guess this will decrease untill sgs3 release after witch it will stop
you all need to take a chill pill. think of it this way: until samsung will release an update for the existing phones they will release an ICS device and after that they will try, hopefully, to update them and that could take some time and i don't think they will update a phone that will be so "old". it's logical... if they update the sgs and sgs2 to ICS why would you buy the next phone? if you were stuck on 2.1 or 2.2 on your sgs you would have taken into consideration to buy sgs2 but knowing that the differences between sgs and sgs2 are in terms of camera proc and size you are not willing to do this... damn that was a long message that no one will read
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you all need to take a chill pill. think of it this way: until samsung will release an update for the existing phones they will release an ICS device and after that they will try, hopefully, to update them and that could take some time and i don't think they will update a phone that will be so "old". it's logical... if they update the sgs and sgs2 to ICS why would you buy the next phone? if you were stuck on 2.1 or 2.2 on your sgs you would have taken into consideration to buy sgs2 but knowing that the differences between sgs and sgs2 are in terms of camera proc and size you are not willing to do this... damn that was a long message that no one will read
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Your thinking is wrong. If Samsung doesn't update their 400€ phones that are 1 year and a half old (And don't even care to do proper QA), then why should you buy another one that will get no updates after that period, even when the hardware can handle it very well? And then you look at Apple that updates their old 3GS (that runs at least twice as fast as the Galaxy S stock)... What reason has Apple to update the 3GS when they just launched the 4S? This is how you gain customer loyalty!
If at least the phone worked well stock, then I wouldn't complain much. But take JVT firmware as an example. It has so many bugs and is so slow!!! How can they do it with this hardware??????????????????
i will not buy SGS2/3 if i will not see ICS on SGS1, i would not want to get stuck again with no updates because they want to sell me their next, new phone
also with ICS on SGS i am aware that it could be missing some features from Galaxy Nexus version, and that it will not be as fast as on newer devices
i do not think that i am the only one that when considering GT-I9000 purchase was looking at this info/fact also
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@boliveira2 it's called consumption market... they want you to buy the newest ones otherwise they could just try to develop and optimize android os for all version (a little exaggeration i know) so you could run it on any phone... cyanogen released 7.1 for the Moto Cliq that didn't even get a 1.6 update here but they managed to do something about it... it's all marketing... why would they waste money and time and man power to update an old phone? i know it is disappointing, i am in the same boat as you... i'm not happy about this but this is it... i hope that i am wrong but... BTW is gingerbread official for all sgs's? i mean anyone can upgrade using kies?
us carrier variants seems to have froyo still same as some countries for gt-i9000 did not upgraded due to the bugs in gb (ex poland)
looks like samsung got overwhelmed by the variety of devices they support and obligations to google to update asap to latest firmware version (that "with Google" partnership) what resulted in overall mess ;]
I think in the end if you want the latest updates for a long time you have to buy the Google phones, period.
It's a shame but that's just the way it is. I think if many people turned their noses at the Samsung/HTC/Motorola-branded phones until they improve their updates they might actually get the picture. As it is most people rush out to get the latest, shiniest closed-driver carrier-specific device and then complain about updates later.
Perhaps this will change now that many Android users are more experienced and have learned their lesson, like so many of us here. If a huge chunk of us ignore devices other than Nexus they might get the point. One thing they may have to do if they really get serious about better updates is tell the carriers, especially the glacial ones here in North America, to screw off and stay out of it. Apple and Nexus phones get their frequent and timely updates mostly because the carriers are out of the loop.
What most have also forgotten is Google want ICS to stop fragmentation but what's happened is its made it worse.
Doing a petition to google to force samsung to roll out ICS
Samsung are clearly using this to sell devices as always
Then after that you have networks to sort as Vodafone in the UK have not released any updates to the Galaxy s past 2.3.3
Google phones get updates faster then from samsung and networks but the Galaxy Nexus is not that good i'll wait for the Motorola Nexus next time round
The rom is designed to work on the Nexus s and the specs are almost the same as the Galaxy s
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Was hoping for sooner, but still good news that it is coming. Thanks for the information.
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I thought I heard all of this in the android central or android police podcast last week, is this something new?
Droid and Maxx are high end and flagships and are the last to receive updates
mmmm....Motorola
danger2u said:
Droid and Maxx are high end and flagships and are the last to receive updates
mmmm....Motorola
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It actually does seem like a Motorola problem now that we've seen how quickly Verizon can get software updates out. I'm a little bit annoyed but after seeing how many bugs are in the current 5.0 update and how many user complaints there have been, I'm more than happy to wait for this 5.1 update if that's what it takes to get a proper working phone.
To the last two posters: the OP is only talking about 5.1 release, not the 5.0 release for us
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Came looking for an exclusive. Found news i read weeks ago and from a questionable source. Left dissatisfied.
joshm.1219 said:
I thought I heard all of this in the android central or android police podcast last week, is this something new?
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Nope. Nor is it a reliable source.
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Nope. Nor is it a reliable source.
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Thanks lol thought I was having some weird deja vu thing
I've read substantially the same from other sources making it in my mind at least credible but I do agree this is old news and worse the title of the thread is misleading. Bad on you OP.
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I've read substantially the same from other sources making it in my mind at least credible but I do agree this is old news and worse the title of the thread is misleading. Bad on you OP.
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Those other sources merely parotted androidpit.
Bad case of blogger-itis.
No, Google Senior Software Engineer Chet Haase was spotted running it on his device at Devoxx and there was a slide of it showing during the conference while Google itself on its own forums is saying it will be coming sooner rather than later. The pit isn't the most reliable source and sometimes like other "leakers" I think they just take their best guess and throw it out there saying they heard it somewhere but in this case it appears they may actually know something.
Personally I don't worry about it, I'm old, I like KK, and am running LP on another device anyways. Unlike a lot of people I find LP more window dressing than anything else and in some ways a step backwards in the name of collecting iphone converts. Thats the gist of a different thread...
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No, Google Senior Software Engineer Chet Haase was spotted running it on his device at Devoxx and there was a slide of it showing during the conference while Google itself on its own forums is saying it will be coming sooner rather than later. The pit isn't the most reliable source and sometimes like other "leakers" I think they just take their best guess and throw it out there saying they heard it somewhere but in this case it appears they may actually know something.
Personally I don't worry about it, I'm old, I like KK, and am running LP on another device anyways. Unlike a lot of people I find LP more window dressing than anything else and in some ways a step backwards in the name of collecting iphone converts. Thats the gist of a different thread...
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Edit: nevermind. People are just noting mr1, which is a branch name, and that was back in early November.
It should be noted that it was probably 5.0.1 and/or was an experimental branch that they worked in. This isn't unheard of and isn't an indicator of a soon release.
People are noting history where mr1 meant a .1 release. Google doesn't always follow that logic of course; Android 4.0 to 4.1 was ICS to Jellybean.
OP has one post. I wouldn't bet on anything in this thread.
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Edit: nevermind. People are just noting mr1, which is a branch name, and that was back in early November.
It should be noted that it was probably 5.0.1 and/or was an experimental branch that they worked in. This isn't unheard of and isn't an indicator of a soon release.
People are noting history where mr1 meant a .1 release. Google doesn't always follow that logic of course; Android 4.0 to 4.1 was ICS to Jellybean.
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I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I'm traveling and thought that I had answered the post quotes I had standing. Hard to say what "it" is but history says that when these guys are running a point release rather than a point zero release it comes to fruition. For example when 2.0 mr1 was seen in the wild it became 2.1 and when 3.0 MR1 ws spotted it became 3.1. There is another example but I cant think of it and data is major bucks where I am right now so I'm not going to search. As to the forums me about about a million other people troll googles forums reading post from google which for those that don't know is usually someone from google who jumps in the mix. I've no idea how much if any official sanction these folks have but one thing that I do know is that when these guys say something along the lines of send me "x" or "we're working on it" this means its coming soon. In truth I had assumed this leak was based on seeing Haase and the other guy from google at the conference combined with what they figured was coming based on trolling googles forums pretty much like me and everyone else does.
Is all that accurate? I don't know. I try and read what is out there and make my best guess like anyone else.
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I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I'm traveling and thought that I had answered the post quotes I had standing. Hard to say what "it" is but history says that when these guys are running a point release rather than a point zero release it comes to fruition. For example when 2.0 mr1 was seen in the wild it became 2.1 and when 3.0 MR1 ws spotted it became 3.1. There is another example but I cant think of it and data is major bucks where I am right now so I'm not going to search. As to the forums me about about a million other people troll googles forums reading post from google which for those that don't know is usually someone from google who jumps in the mix. I've no idea how much if any official sanction these folks have but one thing that I do know is that when these guys say something along the lines of send me "x" or "we're working on it" this means its coming soon. In truth I had assumed this leak was based on seeing Haase and the other guy from google at the conference combined with what they figured was coming based on trolling googles forums pretty much like me and everyone else does.
Is all that accurate? I don't know. I try and read what is out there and make my best guess like anyone else.
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Well again, that was back before 5.0 was really out, and history has shown inconsistencies, ala 4.0 >4.1.
I'm largely unconcerned and I'm not saying I think anything. A lot of times the blogs run with information that has no support externally and one simply reposts from another. In this case there is external support although as you point out it is not strong. I'm not advocating one way or the other simply saying it exists, not that its existence means that the information is correct. I myself haven't made that leap, not enough there for me to do anything other than not immediately dismiss it as utter crap which is what I would have done without it.

Android M is near i can sense it!!(atleast for beta testers)

Android marshmallow update is going to be the life saviour for most of us, who ain't using cm 13, nor 12 ...... Well i am using echoe rom
But the main thing is that lollipop was not good and ruined the experience for most of us but now we will have marshmallow out and after a long wait we will get it in our hands within a month or so
Well there is a leak for marshmalow 6.0.1 running in zenfone 2 laser and soon zenfone 2 will also get it as it is their flagship. Hopefully the leak is true, and it looks like it's one of their employees who has leaked it.(he has the rog laptop ??)
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Z00MD = Zenfone 2 Laser ZE600KL
This variant came with Snapdragon 615, and about Snapdragon, a lot of devices are on Marshmallow.
ZE550/551 still waiting for M. I think they will skip Feb security update and give us M with March/April update.
You guys are dreaming you won't see M for at least another year, ASUS can't even get past 5.0, out devices will all be dead before they figure out m
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You guys are dreaming you won't see M for at least another year, ASUS can't even get past 5.0, out devices will all be dead before they figure out m
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LOL Wanna bet?
Glad to know that ASUS is really working on providing Android 6.0.1 , but shouldn't Asus's first priority be the Intel variants (Ze551ml/Ze550ml) than the Snapdragon ones?
Yeah I look forward to the big M but if it doesnt come I'm just fine with L. Asus has been really good with their updates, not just firmwares but also updating our apps.
Echoe rom by far was the best stock based rom , so yeah even i can wait a month or couple for a good marshmallow build , hope it is gelatin free
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Glad to know that ASUS is really working on providing Android 6.0.1 , but shouldn't Asus's first priority be the Intel variants (Ze551ml/Ze550ml) than the Snapdragon ones?
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Snapdragon varient is easier since everyone and their brother has some snapdragon varient. Easier to adapt.
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Snapdragon varient is easier since everyone and their brother has some snapdragon varient. Easier to adapt.
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You forgot arm architecture its the thing google prefers more than anything
Beware click bait on these "leaks" this screen cap seems photoshoped.
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You guys are dreaming you won't see M for at least another year, ASUS can't even get past 5.0, out devices will all be dead before they figure out m
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ASUS has been very good withvupdate. While the update takes longer time to launch, bit in the end we will get it. So patience is the key. Everybody should know this before the buy an intel based chipset.
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ASUS has been very good withvupdate. While the update takes longer time to launch, bit in the end we will get it. So patience is the key. Everybody should know this before the buy an intel based chipset.
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Not for my case, my phone ZE500CL is left out, and it's not even 1 year old
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ASUS has been very good withvupdate. While the update takes longer time to launch, bit in the end we will get it. So patience is the key. Everybody should know this before the buy an intel based chipset.
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The updates are cosmetic bull...., there has not been a significant update in more than 6 months, and I stand by my statement the ZenFone will never get the M update till at least a year after N is released, the last 4 updates errr ridiculous in scope and added nothing to generational effectiveness of the phone. I was entirely ready to go 100% ASUS, but my experience with the support on this phone has guaranteed ASUS will never realize another from me for any equipment, I am likely to switch all my future phone purchases to LG or just go straight Nexus from this point forward. Just my humble opinion.
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The updates are cosmetic bull...., there has not been a significant update in more than 6 months, and I stand by my statement the ZenFone will never get the M update till at least a year after N is released, the last 4 updates errr ridiculous in scope and added nothing to generational effectiveness of the phone. I was entirely ready to go 100% ASUS, but my experience with the support on this phone has guaranteed ASUS will never realize another from me for any equipment, I am likely to switch all my future phone purchases to LG or just go straight Nexus from this point forward. Just my humble opinion.
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Well, ASUS is not going to take that much of time to release MM for our device. It might be release next month or after they'll launch Zenfone 3.
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Well, ASUS is not going to take that much of time to release MM for our device. It might be release next month or after they'll launch Zenfone 3.
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Your dreamin, they are just starting beta testing and that'll take them 6 months to a year or more, he'll they haven't even mastered 5.1 to this point so figuring out 6 is likely beyond their skill level, but hey you can dream..... good luck with that.
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Well, ASUS is not going to take that much of time to release MM for our device. It might be release next month or after they'll launch Zenfone 3.
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Well hope the best and wait for MM update to be bug - free or else with new,better insipred(from CM,Miui) features
I do not want any gimmicks all i want is aome smart and innovative stuff , like taking screenshot on pressing recent key is innovative af (i think even cm does not has that option in long press, i used only cm12 in s3 , so i have not used it much)
I love asus for what they are doing and i do not care for upgrades if some one has made a stock based awesome rom(echoe rom)
Asus is love, intel is what i do not love(for gpu, development, no image enhancement and no battery effeciency)(820 is best this year)
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Your dreamin, they are just starting beta testing and that'll take them 6 months to a year or more, he'll they haven't even mastered 5.1 to this point so figuring out 6 is likely beyond their skill level, but hey you can dream..... good luck with that.
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You should understand it's not easy to make roms and being new to it , it takes times to adjust , they are giving their best to give us the best MM update and with ironed out bugs too , hopefully it will happen , but i doubt intel for its efficiency and without using good kernels its far to get good battery and awesome performance together (you have to loose one generally but not in good kernels)
Its not about mastering 5.1 also , its about developing good base for future updates and with poor planing and development it will be hard , they should divide their team and do kick-ass development.
Do not be a jerk , by *****ing them for their only flaw, slow updates.
Intel is good except for weak gpu , lack of elements like enhanced imaging , battery or even sound quality ,these all are found in QC and MTK but often priced higher than intel
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The updates are cosmetic bull...., there has not been a significant update in more than 6 months, and I stand by my statement the ZenFone will never get the M update till at least a year after N is released, the last 4 updates errr ridiculous in scope and added nothing to generational effectiveness of the phone. I was entirely ready to go 100% ASUS, but my experience with the support on this phone has guaranteed ASUS will never realize another from me for any equipment, I am likely to switch all my future phone purchases to LG or just go straight Nexus from this point forward. Just my humble opinion.
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From kitkat to lollipop, yes what most people know it was only cosmetic. Not for me tough. But from 32 to 64 bit? Not really. Itll optimize zenfone 2 and might unlock the power within it. I cant say much about asus wouldnt release android M, well.. the beta is out on march. Lookin at the history, when asus releases beta, itll be followed with the actual thing. Its just a matter of time really. Asus isnt the fastest in rolling update, but it is a definite that update will come. You are the fast - update kinda person i suppose. Well if its what u want, you are right. You better stick with nexus.
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You should understand it's not easy to make roms and being new to it , it takes times to adjust , they are giving their best to give us the best MM update and with ironed out bugs too , hopefully it will happen , but i doubt intel for its efficiency and without using good kernels its far to get good battery and awesome performance together (you have to loose one generally but not in good kernels)
Its not about mastering 5.1 also , its about developing good base for future updates and with poor planing and development it will be hard , they should divide their team and do kick-ass development.
Do not be a jerk , by *****ing them for their only flaw, slow updates.
Intel is good except for weak gpu , lack of elements like enhanced imaging , battery or even sound quality ,these all are found in QC and MTK but often priced higher than intel
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Lol. Just lol. I actually feel lucky that asus skip 5.1.1. That firmware is very buggy. Look at other reviews.
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From kitkat to lollipop, yes what most people know it was only cosmetic. Not for me tough. But from 32 to 64 bit? Not really. Itll optimize zenfone 2 and might unlock the power within it. I cant say much about asus wouldnt release android M, well.. the beta is out on march. Lookin at the history, when asus releases beta, itll be followed with the actual thing. Its just a matter of time really. Asus isnt the fastest in rolling update, but it is a definite that update will come. You are the fast - update kinda person i suppose. Well if its what u want, you are right. You better stick with nexus.
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Lol. Just lol. I actually feel lucky that asus skip 5.1.1. That firmware is very buggy. Look at other reviews.
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I agree tough. Expensive smartphones doesnt always guarantee its quality nowadays.
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The updates are cosmetic bull...., there has not been a significant update in more than 6 months, and I stand by my statement the ZenFone will never get the M update till at least a year after N is released, the last 4 updates errr ridiculous in scope and added nothing to generational effectiveness of the phone. I was entirely ready to go 100% ASUS, but my experience with the support on this phone has guaranteed ASUS will never realize another from me for any equipment, I am likely to switch all my future phone purchases to LG or just go straight Nexus from this point forward. Just my humble opinion.
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Relax bro, even the Note 5 hasnt got the MM yet.
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Asus is love, intel is what i do not love(for gpu, development, no image enhancement and no battery effeciency)(820 is best this year)
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x86 architechture is just a little worse with Android. If devs can figure out something for x86 and make a badass kernel then what's better than that? Or if all the applications and Android itself could be complile for both arm and x86 then x86 doesn't require arm code translator(libhoudini) which lacks performance.

Is there a US release date yet?

I'm currently looking at an upgrade for my LG G3 (which died so now I'm using my old S4) and was looking at the OP3 when I stumbled upon this phone, which I'd never heard of. Overall, it sounds great but I can't seem to find an actual release date anywhere (which is concerning, as someone who waited far too long for the droid bionic back in the day and after months upon months of waiting, settled for a different phone). Does anyone even have an approximate release date for this in the US? If it's not sometime in the near future, I might just snag the OP3 and go about my day, but I'm hoping someone has heard something about it.
Thanks!
No there isn't and do we need a new thread for this question every week?
Honestly, that's my fault. I try not to revive old threads (since that usually has people's heads exploding) and had read the other thread with the same topic and thought it was from last month (rather than a few days ago).
Sorry about that!
If there's a release date, it will be probably be a sticky thread with plenty of comments.
So, I'm not sure if this is valid but I was comparing a few phones on phone arena and noticed that there is a date included there. Apparently, it says July 30th . . . Below is the link I used:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/ZTE-Axon-7,OnePlus-3,HTC-10/phones/10068,10017,9582
Here's the full info page:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/ZTE-Axon-7_id10068
No idea where they got this date (or if there's any truth to it) but figured I'd share it all the same.
Well Canadian website mobilesyrup reported that the phone will come out later in the year for Canada. If Canadian and US releases are linked would that mean Q3 or Q4 release? I hope not...
http://mobilesyrup.com/2016/05/26/ztes-axon-7-smartphone-will-launch-later-this-year/
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These companies need to get their crap together. I was going to go for an HTC 10 but due to AT&T not carrying it and the only other option being directly through them, I was opting for this, as it's cheaper outright.
Now they're flopping around with a release date for this. I need a new phone ASAP due to mine having issues. They're going to force me into an OP3.
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Well Canadian website mobilesyrup reported that the phone will come out later in the year for Canada. If Canadian and US releases are linked would that mean Q3 or Q4 release? I hope not...
http://mobilesyrup.com/2016/05/26/ztes-axon-7-smartphone-will-launch-later-this-year/
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This article is from May 26th. It's clearly not good information.
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These companies need to get their crap together. I was going to go for an HTC 10 but due to AT&T not carrying it and the only other option being directly through them, I was opting for this, as it's cheaper outright.
Now they're flopping around with a release date for this. I need a new phone ASAP due to mine having issues. They're going to force me into an OP3.
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Same here, I pre-ordered the HTC 10 and for some reason HTC cancelled my order. Now I want the Axon 7 but ZTE doesn't want my money. OP3 is getting closer and closer by the days...
Yeah, I'm in the same boat as both of you. Being on a 3 year old phone that was already dying when I originally switched from it, I kinda need a phone fast (especially since the camera on it has a cracked lense so I can't take pictures with it). Between that and the likelihood of the ZTE bootloader being locked (I know some people in here think that's not going to be the case and I hope not but if what I've read is correct in other post, ZTE keeps their phones pretty locked down. Probably even more likely with that Passport 2.0 system they'll be supporting), I'm starting to think this is not going to be worth the wait. If it comes out in July, I'd still ideally like to wait a while to read some quality reviews and see what happens in the development community before I jump onboard. When I consider that over buying the OP3, which is all ready to go, unlocked, and with an active developer community, it's kinda hard to justify waiting it out (especially if I have to potentially wait until the end of the year since no date has been confirmed . . . which SHOULD be the easiest thing a company can do. Provide a release date!).
Good luck, everyone! I hope you guys get the phones you want!
The only big issue I have with the OP3 is I keep hearing about LTE issues with AT&T, who is my provider.
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The only big issue I have with the OP3 is I keep hearing about LTE issues with AT&T, who is my provider.
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Hmm. That is a concern as I have AT&T as well . . . I was concerned about the Wi-Fi, based on what I've read . . . but the Nexus 6P seems like such a step back at this point and I don't want to wait for the Nexus "Marlin" to see if it will be a decent device (and for a decent price).
Man, such a great opportunity for ZTE to step in! Too bad they can't seem to pull it together!
Much in the same boat as well
Sitting on my old Nexus 4 and would like to pick up the Axon 7. But OP3 is calling my name if I don't hear anything about a release date for the Axon 7. Both of them have the needed band 12 for T-mobile and that is what I am looking for.
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The only big issue I have with the OP3 is I keep hearing about LTE issues with AT&T, who is my provider.
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WIith OP phones, you are pretty much doing beta testing for them for first 3-6 months. Both OP1 and OP2 had tons of bugs and nagging issues at launch. I owned them so I know.
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Sitting on my old Nexus 4 and would like to pick up the Axon 7. But OP3 is calling my name if I don't hear anything about a release date for the Axon 7. Both of them have the needed band 12 for T-mobile and that is what I am looking for.
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Band 12 means nothing unless you get T-mobile blessing to use it. I don't see OP doing the extra work for it. OP2 doesn't have it and I doubt OP3 does either. USA isn't their market.
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Band 12 means nothing unless you get T-mobile blessing to use it. I don't see OP doing the extra work for it. OP2 doesn't have it and I doubt OP3 does either. USA isn't their market.
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OP3 has Band 12 and even T-Mobile VoLTE.
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Does anyone even have an approximate release date for this in the US? If it's not sometime in the near future, I might just snag the OP3 and go about my day, but I'm hoping someone has heard something about it. Thanks!
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I checked the ZTE USA website and it states the following:
Ion Gold - Starts Shipping 7/27
Quartz Gray - Starts Shipping 8/17
On this link here: https://www.zteusa.com/axon-7
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