"Our source has informed us that Android 5.1 will be launched by the end of February 2015, and a second, completely separate source that is also privy to important information regarding Android updates, confirmed it. Not only that, this is allegedly a rather large update with many interesting new features! See the changelog below:"
Silent mode added after missing on Android 5.0
General improvements in system stability
Improved RAM management
Fixes for sudden app closures
Improved battery management
Excessive consumption of network devices when used Wi-Fi fixed
Issues with wireless connections fixed
Problems with Okay Google function solved
Notifications problems solved
Some sound problems experience by certain devices fixed
Other improvements and changes
Changes in the Material Design color palette (after users complaints, possibly for a higher version though)Exclusive Android 5.1 release date and improvements revealed - AndroidPIT
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Was hoping for sooner, but still good news that it is coming. Thanks for the information.
Sent from my Turbo.
I thought I heard all of this in the android central or android police podcast last week, is this something new?
Droid and Maxx are high end and flagships and are the last to receive updates
mmmm....Motorola
danger2u said:
Droid and Maxx are high end and flagships and are the last to receive updates
mmmm....Motorola
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It actually does seem like a Motorola problem now that we've seen how quickly Verizon can get software updates out. I'm a little bit annoyed but after seeing how many bugs are in the current 5.0 update and how many user complaints there have been, I'm more than happy to wait for this 5.1 update if that's what it takes to get a proper working phone.
To the last two posters: the OP is only talking about 5.1 release, not the 5.0 release for us
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Came looking for an exclusive. Found news i read weeks ago and from a questionable source. Left dissatisfied.
joshm.1219 said:
I thought I heard all of this in the android central or android police podcast last week, is this something new?
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Nope. Nor is it a reliable source.
adrynalyne said:
Nope. Nor is it a reliable source.
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Thanks lol thought I was having some weird deja vu thing
I've read substantially the same from other sources making it in my mind at least credible but I do agree this is old news and worse the title of the thread is misleading. Bad on you OP.
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I've read substantially the same from other sources making it in my mind at least credible but I do agree this is old news and worse the title of the thread is misleading. Bad on you OP.
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Those other sources merely parotted androidpit.
Bad case of blogger-itis.
No, Google Senior Software Engineer Chet Haase was spotted running it on his device at Devoxx and there was a slide of it showing during the conference while Google itself on its own forums is saying it will be coming sooner rather than later. The pit isn't the most reliable source and sometimes like other "leakers" I think they just take their best guess and throw it out there saying they heard it somewhere but in this case it appears they may actually know something.
Personally I don't worry about it, I'm old, I like KK, and am running LP on another device anyways. Unlike a lot of people I find LP more window dressing than anything else and in some ways a step backwards in the name of collecting iphone converts. Thats the gist of a different thread...
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No, Google Senior Software Engineer Chet Haase was spotted running it on his device at Devoxx and there was a slide of it showing during the conference while Google itself on its own forums is saying it will be coming sooner rather than later. The pit isn't the most reliable source and sometimes like other "leakers" I think they just take their best guess and throw it out there saying they heard it somewhere but in this case it appears they may actually know something.
Personally I don't worry about it, I'm old, I like KK, and am running LP on another device anyways. Unlike a lot of people I find LP more window dressing than anything else and in some ways a step backwards in the name of collecting iphone converts. Thats the gist of a different thread...
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Show me?
Edit: nevermind. People are just noting mr1, which is a branch name, and that was back in early November.
It should be noted that it was probably 5.0.1 and/or was an experimental branch that they worked in. This isn't unheard of and isn't an indicator of a soon release.
People are noting history where mr1 meant a .1 release. Google doesn't always follow that logic of course; Android 4.0 to 4.1 was ICS to Jellybean.
OP has one post. I wouldn't bet on anything in this thread.
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Edit: nevermind. People are just noting mr1, which is a branch name, and that was back in early November.
It should be noted that it was probably 5.0.1 and/or was an experimental branch that they worked in. This isn't unheard of and isn't an indicator of a soon release.
People are noting history where mr1 meant a .1 release. Google doesn't always follow that logic of course; Android 4.0 to 4.1 was ICS to Jellybean.
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I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I'm traveling and thought that I had answered the post quotes I had standing. Hard to say what "it" is but history says that when these guys are running a point release rather than a point zero release it comes to fruition. For example when 2.0 mr1 was seen in the wild it became 2.1 and when 3.0 MR1 ws spotted it became 3.1. There is another example but I cant think of it and data is major bucks where I am right now so I'm not going to search. As to the forums me about about a million other people troll googles forums reading post from google which for those that don't know is usually someone from google who jumps in the mix. I've no idea how much if any official sanction these folks have but one thing that I do know is that when these guys say something along the lines of send me "x" or "we're working on it" this means its coming soon. In truth I had assumed this leak was based on seeing Haase and the other guy from google at the conference combined with what they figured was coming based on trolling googles forums pretty much like me and everyone else does.
Is all that accurate? I don't know. I try and read what is out there and make my best guess like anyone else.
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I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I'm traveling and thought that I had answered the post quotes I had standing. Hard to say what "it" is but history says that when these guys are running a point release rather than a point zero release it comes to fruition. For example when 2.0 mr1 was seen in the wild it became 2.1 and when 3.0 MR1 ws spotted it became 3.1. There is another example but I cant think of it and data is major bucks where I am right now so I'm not going to search. As to the forums me about about a million other people troll googles forums reading post from google which for those that don't know is usually someone from google who jumps in the mix. I've no idea how much if any official sanction these folks have but one thing that I do know is that when these guys say something along the lines of send me "x" or "we're working on it" this means its coming soon. In truth I had assumed this leak was based on seeing Haase and the other guy from google at the conference combined with what they figured was coming based on trolling googles forums pretty much like me and everyone else does.
Is all that accurate? I don't know. I try and read what is out there and make my best guess like anyone else.
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Well again, that was back before 5.0 was really out, and history has shown inconsistencies, ala 4.0 >4.1.
I'm largely unconcerned and I'm not saying I think anything. A lot of times the blogs run with information that has no support externally and one simply reposts from another. In this case there is external support although as you point out it is not strong. I'm not advocating one way or the other simply saying it exists, not that its existence means that the information is correct. I myself haven't made that leap, not enough there for me to do anything other than not immediately dismiss it as utter crap which is what I would have done without it.
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Here's the link
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Can't wait for them to finish uploading and they have stuck to their promise!
Good job SE! X2 support all the way =D
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Here's the link
Can't wait for them to finish uploading and they have stuck to their promise!
Good job SE! X2 support all the way =D
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Hopefully!!!!!
Well, this notice may be shown for next week. Something has happened, but MR1 is still unavailable at last... But I still hope that it will be released today.
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Here's the link
Can't wait for them to finish uploading and they have stuck to their promise!
Good job SE! X2 support all the way =D
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Where's the link? Am i blind? http://www.sonyericsson.com/update don't come up with anything new and a "Update service" tells me I have the latest software.
EDIT: Aha, a refresh of http://www.sonyericsson.com/update gives "Coming soon. Come back later". Later this spring, year, decade? A "march update" should really be out in march and it scares me SE seems to be working on the update to the very last minute (or even longer?), will it be as good as SE (and customers) planned for?
Yes, this is because MR1 isn´t available now! SE only says that: Comming soon... But when is soon ?
surely we all know by now that when a company says "march" it means it could be march/april/may lol. especially with software. they can only guess when they will finish theres no definate science to it. if theres a delay its because theyve not finished ironing out any bugs not because they cant be bothered to let us have it. the main thing is we know theyre serious about supporting the X2 and its on the way...
remember this isnt just an update to fix bugs its also an upgrade to wm6.5.2 so im sure they have their fair share of headaches making sure all existing software works with the newer operating system.
What the hell. Why make a topic saying it's available when it's not.
You could of said "it's coming soon"
I just brought a Xperia X2. Tomorrow it arrives.
I expect to install the MR1 Update as soon at it gets it.
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surely we all know by now that when a company says "march" it means it could be march/april/may lol. especially with software. they can only guess when they will finish theres no definate science to it. if theres a delay its because theyve not finished ironing out any bugs not because they cant be bothered to let us have it. the main thing is we know theyre serious about supporting the X2 and its on the way...
remember this isnt just an update to fix bugs its also an upgrade to wm6.5.2 so im sure they have their fair share of headaches making sure all existing software works with the newer operating system.
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I guess your post is addressed to me so here's my answer:
Companies says this and that and you say we (their customers) have to accept whatever bull**** they throw at us. This should be because of some new born truth, when they say yes they mean no, perhaps or even yes? Well, you, me and many of the users here have been ****ed over and over again so now it's ok?
I can just think how this sort of behavior would be accepted if it concerned delivery of your new car for example. You could probably accept a delay if your told in reasonable time. But if the car dealer did a ostrich putting the head in the sand you'll probably go bullocks, just as I do now over SE. As a comparison, look at Microsofts "patch Tuesday", is it ok for them to send out patches at Thursdays instead?
SE officially said February 2: "In March, we’ll launch our first upgrade" and February 26 they narrowed the release down to, if I remember the exact phrase, "late March". It can be read/seen at http://xperiancers.com/ Nowhere can we see or read about any delay and with that information provided by SE we should expect nothing other than a March release. You me and everyone we know perhaps knows this isn't so but we should never accept it.
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Here's the link
Can't wait for them to finish uploading and they have stuck to their promise!
Good job SE! X2 support all the way =D
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If this is supposed to be a joke. Do you hear anyone laughing in here? I'll give you my final comment tomorrow.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that the last post at xperiancers.com is that they're shutting down (remember the ostrich?) Ok, they say they moving to the product blog. Well head over there for yourselves and see if you can find any posts or even a X2 category. Not a sound of any delays.
5 hours 20 min left...
In 5 hours 20 min... Sweden turns april and no MR1 in sight!!
My X2 had some problems with camera and no memorycard and performance issues. My old HTC Touch Pro in some way better... Windows phone 6.5, hmm not impressed yet. If Mobile 7 don't "rock" (with new phone) Android or other OS is my new choice...
It says on the SE site:
Did you know that we're always improving our software? For up to 2 years after launch our software team work hard to give you the best phone experience with better performance, new features and bug fixes. Are you up to date? Select your phone from the list below to find out.
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Makes me feel anger towards sony's marketing department.
I am 99% sure it will come next week (at least for Russia, don't know about others) (it is not 100% info, but it is close to it).
Can't wait to test it on X1
On the official Polish fanclub of Sony Ericsson, one admin wrote that the update should be available this week. He attached two pictures with radio and videocalling added.
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On the official Polish fanclub of Sony Ericsson, one admin wrote that the update should be available this week. He attached two pictures with radio and videocalling added.
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Great.
What is the link?
Here: forum.fanklub.se/x2/aktualizacja-x2%29/msg15848/#msg15848
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Here: forum.fanklub.se/x2/aktualizacja-x2)/msg15848/#msg15848
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Wrong link!
Ok got it:
http://forum.fanklub.se/x2/aktualizacja-x2)/msg15848/#msg15848
no my previous post wasnt particularly aimed at anyone. it seemed that people where taking the "march" release date a bit too literaly. yes they did say march but we've all owned phones and other technological goods long enough now to know that when a company says a release date its not set in stone. no matter what the item or product, when delivery is involved its always sensible to factor in a bit of leeway for unforseen circumstances unless a specific exact time and date are promised. and in this case it wasnt. it was just a notice on a blog. until a specific date is announced then its sensible to assume that march could mean begining of april.
the only way a company can give a firm date about something is if it was finished and ready to go. eg a car or something physical that has a manufactureing lead time. they can give an exact release date because it takes a measurable time to manufacture the finished tested product and they know exactly how long it will take.
with software updates you can release it the day its finished testing. theres no lead time or manufacturing delay. so when they announce a release date 3months in advance its just a best guess because theyve obviously not finished it when they made that announcement. theres no way they can guarentee that date, they cant foresee every problem that arises. they can only give best guess assuming everything proceeds smoothly. if the release date arrives and the software is still buggy then theyre goin to delay the release to give the customer a better product. sony havent released the update because its not ready not because they want to piss us off or because they dont care or have poor customer service. if anything it shows they value their customers because theyre not willing to fob us off with a crappy buggy firmware release.
from all indications and the notice on the sony website it does seem that the update is very close. if they get it out first week of april then im not going to fuss over a couple of days. but if it takes longer than that ill gladly join the ranks of unhappy people kicking up a fuss.
with regards to there being no mention of the X2 on the new weblog its because today isnt April 1st. the X2 had its own blog so wasnt mentioned on there before. if you read the notice on the xperiancers blog you will see it says they are closing the X2 blog on april 1st which is tomorrow and then moving everything across. not sure if that means theyre moving the old announcements and posts across aswell.
"As of the first of April, we’ll shut this site down and move everything to blogs.sonyericsson.com/products then the posts from Aaron, Me, and the team at Wolfstar will continue there."
April is here, but ROM is still nowhere... Thanks SE.
jkoljo said:
It says on the SE site:
Makes me feel anger towards sony's marketing department.
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Often marketing and development are not communicating very well. Like:
Marketing: "When it will be finished?"
Development: "With 20 people at the end of april."
Marketing: "OK, let's say 10 people and march."
Duh!
And S-E marketing must be really smoking weed or so, because what sensible company would release phones like Vivaz AND Vivaz Pro, X10 Mini AND X10 Mini Pro? Who would buy non-Pro version anyway?
Anyway, today I'm going to buy and try X2, so I expect myself to join the ranks of angry Xperia users :-D
(But with my demands there is no alternative save maybe for B7610 which proven to be a fail )
I am, and I'll tell you why.
Samsung hasn't even started building a GB ROM for our phone, and that's kind of weird to me, because I would think that they would have something.
I don't remember where I read this, and this could be wrong, but doesn't the carrier has to request the update, and then the manufacturer builds it? (I can be COMPLETELY wrong, so don't hold me to this) If that's true, then we may not see a GB build, because T-Mobile USA wouldn't request it.
Tell me what you think, because this interests me a lot.
Where did you get this info? that they haven't started the gingerbread for us.
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Where did you get this info? that they haven't started the gingerbread for us.
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http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/81421451059671040
http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/81257522966700032
There.
They posted the GS4G leak, the Cappy leak, and they have a leak for the Epic 4G.
since there have been no vibrant leaks, it automatically means they have not started building it?
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since there have been no vibrant leaks, it automatically means they have not started building it?
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It's not that, SamFirmware stated (and I honestly believe them, if they found all these leaks for other phones so quickly), that there's no Vibrant (SGH-T959) build, which could mean A LOT of things, possibly something as simple as Samsung is really lazy and doesn't want to upload it, but it would mean more.
I'm just saying, I don't know what's up, but I'd like to know more.
And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
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And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
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Unfortunately, this is most likely the truth. :/
I hope they don't forget us. All we want is a leak.
Relax, It'll be released in a couple months for sure. Enjoy the new ROM's with working GPS this weekend
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Relax, It'll be released in a couple months for sure. Enjoy the new ROM's with working GPS this weekend
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THAT's the only thing good thing for us about all these leaks, we have working GPS now.
djquick said:
And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
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I fart very fast...
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I noticed that as well. But you have to remember that T-Mobile plays real dirty. Remember when we had 2.2 leaks back late November (JK2)? It didn't become official until #NeverAgain made such a huge PR mess for them that Samsung & T-Mobile had to release it. But it was up until then, that T-Mobile didn't want to update out phones because of the pending MT4G & SGS4G release, dirty mfers...
By the way this issue gets more complicated now with the AT&T merger. AT&T strongly believes that updates are not good for business. From their point of view if they don't do updates it gives users more reasons to upgrade to new phones.
So if TMo was borderline crap about this already, the adoption by AT&T is only going to delay things further.
What does that mean for us, enjoy the awesome roms on xda and forget about TMo.
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Just read da tweets someone should just port from 4g to us
Ya boy
Ya, but Google kind of helped us all out with that. Its not up to the carriers if a phone is going to get an update anymore. If Manufactures want to use Android they have to abide by the 18 month update cycle this goes for carriers too. They have to provided updates to newer versions of Android during the first 18 month of a phones life. Our Vibrants really only have six months left of that 18 though. So don't expect an official Ice Cream Sandwich update. I wish google had been enforcing this rule back in the days of the original cliq and cliq xt. The poor XT didn't even get an update out of 1.5. I think Google has gotten tired of all the negative press that manufactures are developing because of the unwillingness to update phones. Of course as you we all know a lot of this has to do with carriers not wanting these updates or their need for unreasonable software packages they want add to the update packages.
How shock i am? Look at this pic.
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Hmm I don't see it as a problem, well at least as long as we have the vibrant 4g, I'm just waiting for the sgs2, then I'll be gone
Well we cant be mad at samsung as its not there fault its tmobil. Most of us will be moving to hercules or sgs2 anyway so no worries crying over this in my opinion.
Yeah, I think it's time to accept the likelihood that Samsung/T-mo won't be providing much further development or support for the Vibrant given the new product lines. It doesn't mean it'll be obsolete though. Thanks developers!
what does it matter? theres literaly pages upon pages of custom rom's out there that are 100000x BETTER Then what any company puts out in the first place.
im pretty sure for a big majority of people here the first thing they do when they get a new phone is wipe it out and start over fresh.
what is it you want exactly, a bloated gingerbread rom from samsung full of **** you dont need or use?
what a useless thread
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what does it matter? theres literaly pages upon pages of custom rom's out there that are 100000x BETTER Then what any company puts out in the first place.
im pretty sure for a big majority of people here the first thing they do when they get a new phone is wipe it out and start over fresh.
what is it you want exactly, a bloated gingerbread rom from samsung full of **** you dont need or use?
what a useless thread
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Well looks like a roll out for the htc desire has began android 2.3.3 with sense 2.1
check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186791
if the htc desire gets sense 2.1 it could be possible we can get it aswell
I believe Verizon has told HTC to no longer support our device. I've written 5 emails to HTC requesting information & have received the typical non answer of:
"...Currently, our developers have to work with Verizon to determine when and if a ROM upgrade will be available....."
Basically I assume this is how it went down:
HTC: hey Verizon! We have a gingerbread update that needs testing on the ADR6300(Dinc).
Verizon: If they want gingerbread tell them to sign a new contract & get an ADR6350(Dinc2).
I encourage all of you to email HTC & inform them that they cannot be sued by Apple for emulating their support system & ignoring the carriers request for bad support. We have little chance of changing Verizon's mind but HTC is our hardware manufacturer & they could continue to support us on their website via RUU.
For the negative Nancy's out there this very tactic worked for the Desire community. They were the squeaky wheel & guess what? They got grease on the way. Being vocal is the only reason they are now getting gingerbread. So save your disparaging comments for your low self esteem girlfriend.
Lastly, for the inevitable "root & u no need OTAz!!!"; yes you do. Things like kernel source are of the utmost importance & drivers for various hardware are closed source. Which means if you reverse engineer it; you can get sued. If you modify it; you can get sued.
Please feel free to take 5 minutes to politely spam their inbox with your displeasure, questions, or concerns here: http://www.htc.com/us/support/e-mail
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I believe Verizon has told HTC to no longer support our device. I've written 5 emails to HTC requesting information & have received the typical non answer of:
"...Currently, our developers have to work with Verizon to determine when and if a ROM upgrade will be available....."
Basically I assume this is how it went down:
HTC: hey Verizon! We have a gingerbread update that needs testing on the ADR6300(Dinc).
Verizon: If they want gingerbread tell them to sign a new contract & get an ADR6350(Dinc2).
I encourage all of you to email HTC & inform them that they cannot be sued by Apple for emulating their support system & ignoring the carriers request for bad support. We have little chance of changing Verizon's mind but HTC is our hardware manufacturer & they could continue to support us on their website via RUU.
For the negative Nancy's out there this very tactic worked for the Desire community. They were the squeaky wheel & guess what? They got grease on the way. Being vocal is the only reason they are now getting gingerbread. So save your disparaging comments for your low self esteem girlfriend.
Lastly, for the inevitable "root & u no need OTAz!!!"; yes you do. Things like kernel source are of the utmost importance & drivers for various hardware are closed source. Which means if you reverse engineer it; you can get sued. If you modify it; you can get sued.
Please feel free to take 5 minutes to politely spam their inbox with your displeasure, questions, or concerns here: http://www.htc.com/us/support/e-mail
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Sent!
I'm confused though, I thought it was pretty much a done deal that we were getting a GB release??? Was that just an unsubstantiated rumor?
I think HTC had the intention of it but like I said I believe it's Verizon's doing. They're not above that at all.
Also HTC is pretty good about getting back to you in a couple of days. Please continue the dialog after reply with your ticket number.
Also it never hurts to hit them on social media:
http://facebook.com/HTC
http://twitter.com/htc
I just sent them an email as well.
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Sent!
I'm confused though, I thought it was pretty much a done deal that we were getting a GB release??? Was that just an unsubstantiated rumor?
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Its not a rumor, we even had a GB leak specifically for our phone. Blame VZW :/
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^ pretty much. Desire, Evo, etc pretty much every version of our hardware is getting it.
Sent e mail as well, also mentioned bringing out the update on fb
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Remember though, outcry for the Desire didn't happen until AFTER HTC said they "couldn't do it.", and the EVO is simply way too popular to ignore.
Incredible users need some press on the issue, and we can't mention development in letters we write. "Send us gingerbread so we can hack into it plz" um, yeah OK. Lol
You guys should be sending letters to tech news outlets and stuff so it can be known. The more regular people that know, the more curiosity and subsequent demand will grow. You are pissing in the wind if you think letters to the companies are gonna help. Press is what's gonna be the catalyst for support in this issue, THEN your letters will have merit. Imagine the millions of users that get news updates on phones, computers, RSS, twitter, etc that suddenly realize that they CAN but wont get an update.
Actually HTC didn't come out & say it until they had been pestered by users. I agree on needing some press love. I'll hit the blogs.
Looking at the link in the OP, it doesn't look like those guys are getting any GB love yet either.
^ it has been confirmed by HTC. Basically we're the only one's with sister hardware still out in the rain.
Wrote on HTC and HTC USA Facebook pages...
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Based on that thread, their GB update seems to be as "confirmed" as ours. Basically just info from HTC reps, not any sort of official announcement. And there's nothing besides speculation that suggests that the update will be sense 2.1. Our GB update was supposed to be here by the end of Q2, now what are they saying?
I know this is coming off as negative, but I'm just trying to be realistic. After not getting our update and hearing nothing else about it, I'd be hesitant to believe anything but an official announcement from HTC, not emails/chat from their support staff.
The post on their Facebook isn't really too confidence inspiring.. Basically they're saying that they're working on an update, but have no idea when it'll be done or what it will include, when we were supposed to get GB last month? Come on HTC..
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Based on that thread, their GB update seems to be as "confirmed" as ours. Basically just info from HTC reps, not any sort of official announcement. And there's nothing besides speculation that suggests that the update will be sense 2.1. Our GB update was supposed to be here by the end of Q2, now what are they saying?
I know this is coming off as negative, but I'm just trying to be realistic. After not getting our update and hearing nothing else about it, I'd be hesitant to believe anything but an official announcement from HTC, not emails/chat from their support staff.
The post on their Facebook isn't really too confidence inspiring.. Basically they're saying that they're working on an update, but have no idea when it'll be done or what it will include, when we were supposed to get GB last month? Come on HTC..
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https://www.facebook.com/htcuk/posts/225857300777092
K there's a fairly blatant statement that came 3 days after they said no GB for Desire. That's about as concrete as it gets as far as statements on releases go.
Back to Dinc, the email I received in late April said sometime in quarter 2. Now the emails I receive say "we have to work with Verizon on when & if a ROM update is available."
There is your big difference & you're not coming off as negative or realistic; only uninformed.
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https://www.facebook.com/htcuk/posts/225857300777092
K there's a fairly blatant statement that came 3 days after they said no GB for Desire. That's about as concrete as it gets as far as statements on releases go.
Back to Dinc, the email I received in late April said sometime in quarter 2. Now the emails I receive say "we have to work with Verizon on when & if a ROM update is available."
There is your big difference & you're not coming off as negative or realistic; only uninformed.
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I'm thinking that we might be barking up the wrong tree. Shouldn't we be pestering Verizon instead of HTC? It really sounds like they are the ones that are the road block here.
Anywho, I got the following response from HTC today about my email yesterday:
Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC, badogg. We will gladly assist you with your inquiry regarding the possibility of a Gingerbread update for your HTC Incredible.
We understand that many owners of the HTC Incredible are anxiously awaiting the arrival of new system updates for this device. As for an ETA for the release of these updates, we do not have this available. Currently, we have no information regarding the Gingerbread update for the HTC Incredible.
With regards to Gingerbread specifically, we can confirm that Google and HTC have agreed to provide android operating system upgrades for all HTC devices for up to 18 months after the initial release date of the device, provided of course that the hardware is able to support it.
We wish we had more information to provide you on this topic. The best way to stay on top of any device updates is to follow us on one of our social network sites like Twitter or Facebook, or check on htc.com. Once we have any information on this update it will be posted on these sites first.
We deeply regret that we do not have more specific details to provide for you badogg, and we hope that this does not detract from your overall use and enjoyment of the HTC Incredible. We thank you for your continued patience while we work to enhance the android experience on this device for all android and HTC devotees. As always, we are here to answer any technical questions or concerns you may have between 6am to 1am EDST, 7 days a week for your convenience, or by phone at 1-866-449-8358.
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I'm thinking that we might be barking up the wrong tree. Shouldn't we be pestering Verizon instead of HTC? It really sounds like they are the ones that are the road block here.
Anywho, I got the following response from HTC today about my email yesterday:
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I see what your saying but I can't recall Verizon changing its mind on anything & they don't seem to cave to bad press whereas HTC does. The best I figure we can do is put pressure on HTC & they would in turn put pressure on Verizon.
Thanks for posting your reply. Interesting ... our hardware is overly capable of GB & 18 months from release for Dinc is this August ....
Just got this from twitter:
poontab: @HTC any news on gingerbread for incredible 1? All similar hardware is getting it Desire, Evo, etc. U haven't even addressed us in 3 months
Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/poontab/status/96333115924029440
htc: @poontab Good question, keep following us here for HTC phone updates.
Original Tweet: http://twitter.com/htc/status/96359461014343680
Nothing... but at least he finally responded. I've been hitting them 3 time's a day every day since I started getting pissed.
Sign the petition here: http://www.change.org/petitions/htt...ndwich-version-for-users-of-the-samsung-i9000
facebook petition page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petition-Android-40-ICS-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S/311749272184543
4195 signatures! keep signing if you haven't yet done so.
theres no point in starting or doing one as they dont work... no body knows that ics is or is not coming to the galaxy s 1 only samaung dose
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theres no point in starting or doing one as they dont work... no body knows that ics is or is not coming to the galaxy s 1 only samaung dose
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they do work to some extent. samsung will probably decide the millions of sgs1 owners can just upgrade to a sgs2 or a sgn, and we'll be ignored unless we make our opinion known.
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they do work to some extent. samsung will probably decide the millions of sgs1 owners can just upgrade to a sgs2 or a sgn, and we'll be ignored unless we make our opinion known.
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Making our opinions known will not change the fact that it will cost Samsung money, and possibly prevent them from making money off of us buying newer phones.
If you want it that bad, either cross your fingers or wait for an unofficial release.
Honestly really not much point in doing so. I'd be surprised if Samsung made ICS available to the i9000, but however no petition will make them listen. Developing ICS for the i9000 will cost them a lot of money they will not be willing to spend as the phone is outdated by the SGS 2.
All this threads about ICS while it's not released yet make me feel concerned about xda mods mental sanity for the months to come.
I would MUCH rather we got a petition together to get Samsung to release driver details and source code for the i9000 so that the Cyanogen team can fix the RIL and 720p recording issues
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I would MUCH rather we got a petition together to get Samsung to release driver details and source code for the i9000 so that the Cyanogen team can fix the RIL and 720p recording issues
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if they do, it will be much easier porting ICS(or anything else, really) to our lovely device, where can i sign?
start a petiton stating if samsung drops firmware support for their still best selled device you will move to a brand that can deliver such updates - as "Galaxy Nexus" branch or any other phone maker that will continue to support their devices not promote/force you to use their latest devices to get updated firmware
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start a petiton stating if samsung drops firmware support for their still best selled device you will move to a brand that can deliver such updates - as "Galaxy Nexus" branch or any other phone maker that will continue to support their devices not promote/force you to use their latest devices to get updated firmware
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Well, I am starting to think that we can't find one that has Android in it... Look even Google doesn't support their Nexus One that is more than capable to handle ICS. In less than 2 years time they will drop support for Galaxy Nexus claiming it is too old again... It's simply a shame.
It hurts me to say this but I am starting to admit that Android has failed in its purpose of proving that it was different in terms of policies than Apple. It's the same s***....
nexus one never was a primary phone for google - it was nexuss, but still i am suprised that they droped 'nexus one'
at least google will not get distorted like samsung with all their devices to release buggy firmwares
google devices always her latest and well developed updates & support - samsung fails to do that
and on the top of that 2 years is normal contract lenght (and most of us got 'contract phones')
so best time to sign new 'pact with the devil' and get new google phone
if nothing will change from samsung on that i will surley not buy samsung phone (but samsung+google yes due to 'working updates/support)
to be honest i see even wave/bada getting more attention/love from samsung
check this vid: [Wave 3] Official Live Demo
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nexus one never was a primary phone for google - it was nexuss, but still i am suprised that they droped 'nexus one'
at least google will not get distorted like samsung with all their devices to release buggy firmwares
google devices always her latest and well developed updates & support - samsung fails to do that
and on the top of that 2 years is normal contract lenght (and most of us got 'contract phones')
so best time to sign new 'pact with the devil' and get new google phone
if nothing will change from samsung on that i will surley not buy samsung phone (but samsung+google yes due to 'working updates/support)
to be honest i see even wave/bada getting more attention/love from samsung
check this vid: [Wave 3] Official Live Demo
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Don't be so sure that Google will be better than Samsung in that department. I don't think Nexus S will get a new major Android update after ICS but let's see...
This idea that you have to buy another phone every 2 years is completely out of reality. I don't want to spend 400€ for a new phone every 2 years. It's completely unacceptable. And if this rumor that I9000 is not getting it becomes true, then I will try my best to discourage Android for anyone I know and is thinking in getting a new phone. I suggest everyone else that feels like this to do the same and try to stop these companies of doing those practices.
NexusS will be supported until the phone that will follow Galaxy Nexus, something simmilar that we witness now
i get my phone for free every 2 years =) thats why i do not see a problem in exchanging it in this time period :]
trust me, no ics for i9000 is not an option, i9000 is their best seller for the moment.
leaving all shose people wo latest firmware upgrade would not be logic.
they are aware how many people would be pissed at them due that fact.
they were ahead when releasing sgs/nexuss now competition is catching up very quick
i do notthink that they are ready to piss so many people
question is how long will it be supported with ics updates and i guess this will decrease untill sgs3 release after witch it will stop
you all need to take a chill pill. think of it this way: until samsung will release an update for the existing phones they will release an ICS device and after that they will try, hopefully, to update them and that could take some time and i don't think they will update a phone that will be so "old". it's logical... if they update the sgs and sgs2 to ICS why would you buy the next phone? if you were stuck on 2.1 or 2.2 on your sgs you would have taken into consideration to buy sgs2 but knowing that the differences between sgs and sgs2 are in terms of camera proc and size you are not willing to do this... damn that was a long message that no one will read
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you all need to take a chill pill. think of it this way: until samsung will release an update for the existing phones they will release an ICS device and after that they will try, hopefully, to update them and that could take some time and i don't think they will update a phone that will be so "old". it's logical... if they update the sgs and sgs2 to ICS why would you buy the next phone? if you were stuck on 2.1 or 2.2 on your sgs you would have taken into consideration to buy sgs2 but knowing that the differences between sgs and sgs2 are in terms of camera proc and size you are not willing to do this... damn that was a long message that no one will read
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Your thinking is wrong. If Samsung doesn't update their 400€ phones that are 1 year and a half old (And don't even care to do proper QA), then why should you buy another one that will get no updates after that period, even when the hardware can handle it very well? And then you look at Apple that updates their old 3GS (that runs at least twice as fast as the Galaxy S stock)... What reason has Apple to update the 3GS when they just launched the 4S? This is how you gain customer loyalty!
If at least the phone worked well stock, then I wouldn't complain much. But take JVT firmware as an example. It has so many bugs and is so slow!!! How can they do it with this hardware??????????????????
i will not buy SGS2/3 if i will not see ICS on SGS1, i would not want to get stuck again with no updates because they want to sell me their next, new phone
also with ICS on SGS i am aware that it could be missing some features from Galaxy Nexus version, and that it will not be as fast as on newer devices
i do not think that i am the only one that when considering GT-I9000 purchase was looking at this info/fact also
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@boliveira2 it's called consumption market... they want you to buy the newest ones otherwise they could just try to develop and optimize android os for all version (a little exaggeration i know) so you could run it on any phone... cyanogen released 7.1 for the Moto Cliq that didn't even get a 1.6 update here but they managed to do something about it... it's all marketing... why would they waste money and time and man power to update an old phone? i know it is disappointing, i am in the same boat as you... i'm not happy about this but this is it... i hope that i am wrong but... BTW is gingerbread official for all sgs's? i mean anyone can upgrade using kies?
us carrier variants seems to have froyo still same as some countries for gt-i9000 did not upgraded due to the bugs in gb (ex poland)
looks like samsung got overwhelmed by the variety of devices they support and obligations to google to update asap to latest firmware version (that "with Google" partnership) what resulted in overall mess ;]
I think in the end if you want the latest updates for a long time you have to buy the Google phones, period.
It's a shame but that's just the way it is. I think if many people turned their noses at the Samsung/HTC/Motorola-branded phones until they improve their updates they might actually get the picture. As it is most people rush out to get the latest, shiniest closed-driver carrier-specific device and then complain about updates later.
Perhaps this will change now that many Android users are more experienced and have learned their lesson, like so many of us here. If a huge chunk of us ignore devices other than Nexus they might get the point. One thing they may have to do if they really get serious about better updates is tell the carriers, especially the glacial ones here in North America, to screw off and stay out of it. Apple and Nexus phones get their frequent and timely updates mostly because the carriers are out of the loop.
What most have also forgotten is Google want ICS to stop fragmentation but what's happened is its made it worse.
Doing a petition to google to force samsung to roll out ICS
Samsung are clearly using this to sell devices as always
Then after that you have networks to sort as Vodafone in the UK have not released any updates to the Galaxy s past 2.3.3
Google phones get updates faster then from samsung and networks but the Galaxy Nexus is not that good i'll wait for the Motorola Nexus next time round
The rom is designed to work on the Nexus s and the specs are almost the same as the Galaxy s
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ZE551ML and ZE550ML are currently being tested for Android M. It's not yet on the announcement board of zentalk but a moderator categorically replied to my thread in zentalk and confirmed that it's already starting the development stage. (see attached photo)
Link : http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=51072&extra=page=1&mobile=2
@ASUS_Khang, would you kindly comment on this as to how we are going to accept and understand the statement given?? Thanks
I just read that as, they are testing to see if it's capable of running it. Not that they're actually doing anything about it. I just want 5.1.1 and the lack of that is bloody annoying. Come on asus.
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High expectations, high disappointment. Just like 5.1
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I just read that as, they are testing to see if it's capable of running it. Not that they're actually doing anything about it. I just want 5.1.1 and the lack of that is bloody annoying. Come on asus.
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Don't wanna be too optimistic and rude at the same time. But isn't testing it on those devices implies plan to implement. Otherwise why test if there is no clear plan of development? Again am not being too optimistic just looking at all possible angles.
Just my two cents.
I was trying to analyze the message ARP_ASUS said, if they are testing it on ZE551ML and ZE550ML. Then definitely there is a source code available and optimize already for x86 device.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but u can't test something on a x86 device if you don't have a Android M source code specifically for x86 right?
Asus is not even capable of giving us 5.1. Forget about 6.0.
Just my humble opinion.
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Man, I sure do love Monday morning volatility and vitriol, don't you?
Short of an announcement on their official pages, I'd still take any confirmation of the Marshmallow update, even on the official forums from a mod as a response, with a bit of salt. That being said, this is quite interesting. It seems like it is a firm statement that the pre-Zenfone 2 devices will not be updated by ASUS to 6 (not extremely surprising but it's a good gauge for us as to potential expected device support longevity).
Indeed, testing implies development. There have been times in the past where a company has tested an update and, in the end, chosen not to finalize and push it out (Atrix 4g comes to mind, since the development builds were eventually leaked showing that work had been done trying to get it to work). With the relatively close system requirements changes between Lollipop and Marshmallow, that probably won't be a factor in it. I'm not sure how those x86 Intel sources factor into it, but with actual testing being done that builds up my optimism!
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Man, I sure do love Monday morning volatility and vitriol, don't you?
Short of an announcement on their official pages, I'd still take any confirmation of the Marshmallow update, even on the official forums from a mod as a response, with a bit of salt. That being said, this is quite interesting. It seems like it is a firm statement that the pre-Zenfone 2 devices will not be updated by ASUS to 6 (not extremely surprising but it's a good gauge for us as to potential expected device support longevity).
Indeed, testing implies development. There have been times in the past where a company has tested an update and, in the end, chosen not to finalize and push it out (Atrix 4g comes to mind, since the development builds were eventually leaked showing that work had been done trying to get it to work). With the relatively close system requirements changes between Lollipop and Marshmallow, that probably won't be a factor in it. I'm not sure how those x86 Intel sources factor into it, but with actual testing being done that builds up my optimism!
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Yep and am pretty sure it's gonna be wild and filled with rants and complaints for the next few days in zentalk once the first gen or pre Zenfone 2 subgroup people read this and starts to sink in their heads. Lol
Not a clear road map as posted. But hey something is still better than being blind as to where zf2 is heading right??
nc and all but we don't even know if they will ever release it, just like that 5.1
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Hey - I can't really comment on what that means. Testing sounds great which gives me hope we'll see Android M, but that message in and of itself doesn't sound official enough for me. Again, I'm trying to help by asking HQ a ton of questions and seeing what the plan is. These things take a ton of time because they need to go through a lot of people. All I can ask is for your patience and understanding.
I plan on following up with HQ about this.
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Hey - I can't really comment on what that means. Testing sounds great which gives me hope we'll see Android M, but that message in and of itself doesn't sound official enough for me. Again, I'm trying to help by asking HQ a ton of questions and seeing what the plan is. These things take a ton of time because they need to go through a lot of people. All I can ask is for your patience and understanding.
I plan on following up with HQ about this.
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Thanks, Keep us posted if something comes up.
I don't see why there is all this whinging about the Zenfone 2 on the forum.
It has got twice the ram and 4 times the storage of my previous phone (S4) for less than half the price of the S4.
Data and phone signals are as good or better than the S4 in my experience, and the phone is faster and smoother.
As to the ram leak, with 4gig who cares., and with 64gig internal and 64gig external I don't give a toss about the bloat.
Battery - with my usage the battery lasts 2 days, the same as my S4 now that it has lollipop.
Asus is putting out firmware updates regularly, they may not be 5.1.1 or 6.0, but if they improve the phone experience so what.
My only gripe with my phone so far is that I had to get it from Hong Kong, if Asus can sell it in France then they can get off their asses and sell it in the UK.
While I would fully expect Asus to provide an update to at least 5.1, or even 6.0, I believe in you get what you pay for. For a $300 phone, you get good bang for your buck, and I appreciate Asus having a rep stay active in the forum, Reddit, and ZenTalk.
There's nothing that says Asus has to provide this update, since it's not a Nexus device, and looking at models like Samsung LG, or Moto, it takes months to get their phones to what is or was the current iteration of Android.
I did however stick my faith in Asus for what I think is a good product, and this will be the determining factor as to if I ever purchase anything Asus again. I think a lot of people feel that way. We could have gone the Moto or even OPO route, but when went with Asus. It's up to them to keep us happy and coming back.
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I don't see why there is all this whinging about the Zenfone 2 on the forum.
It has got twice the ram and 4 times the storage of my previous phone (S4) for less than half the price of the S4.
Data and phone signals are as good or better than the S4 in my experience, and the phone is faster and smoother.
As to the ram leak, with 4gig who cares., and with 64gig internal and 64gig external I don't give a toss about the bloat.
Battery - with my usage the battery lasts 2 days, the same as my S4 now that it has lollipop.
Asus is putting out firmware updates regularly, they may not be 5.1.1 or 6.0, but if they improve the phone experience so what.
My only gripe with my phone so far is that I had to get it from Hong Kong, if Asus can sell it in France then they can get off their asses and sell it in the UK.
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I saw it being sold on Amazon.co.uk, the ww version that was being shipped from Amazon UK, which is great if you have a problem and need to return it. Though I would suggest getting the US version if you are set on getting this phone, because it has more bands unlocked, which I will admit their bands are a huge plus on this phone. Keep in mind that the second sim only works on 2G voice/text and data is software blocked.
Hoping for fixing battery drain Android OS crap with 6.0
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To think about it i dont have so much hope in asus
But can you like flash a dev 6.0 rom or something like that from dev for zen
To be fair, Asus is still better than the likes of Oppo - many of their phones are still stuck on KitKat.