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Hi guys and girls.
Today i noticed an owner of SGS2 mentioning an app called "2nd core" that works with the SGS2s that have a Tegra 2 processor.
Here's the description of what the app does:
[ Features ]
*Set on boot
Change mode what you selected automatically on boot time.
Menu > Settings
[ Modes ]
*Dynamic Hotplug Mode
Default. Recently, mobile multicore CPUs turn off extra core(s) to save battery life when system is not busy and only use 1 core.
They turn on extra core(s) when system is busy. so system use all cores again.
*Single Core Mode
Use 1 core always. A extra core is shut down. It makes battery life longer but performance is decreased.
*Dual Core Mode
Use 2 cores always. Performance is increased but battery life is shorter than others.
*Available kernels
Lulz Kernel Build 15 and over.
Unfortunately, it's only compatible with the SGS2 with the appropriate kernels but i was wondering if it's possible to get this ported for our phones?
Here's the link to the app on android market: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tegrak.secondcore&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS50ZWdyYWsuc2Vjb25kY29yZSJd
Why buy a dual core phone if you wanna tweak it to using only one? That's plain stupid.
Not to mention how the Atrix got a bigger improved battery than that of the sgs2, 300mah to be exact. This phone is built for bith performace and efficiency thecway it is and cm7 improves that even more. No need for such an app IMO.
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I always thought dual core phones were more battery efficient vs single core phones. When handling tasks, two "brains" are better than one "brain". The workload is divided in half thus meaning less power used, no?
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Sounds great and dude don't flame on him that's a great idea why have the the phone working so much when you're not using it.Most apps aren't even optimized for the two cores except for a very small amount and some games.I would like to be able to have one core running until I decide to watch some HD video or play some graphic intensive games and then disable the app for that period of time.This would extend battery life and you can still get performance when you need it why have it running full blast all day if you're at work and can't be playing with your phone???? makes no sense...just saying,especially with people who Overclock and stuff like that more battery efficiency is always a +
Abu-7abash said:
Why buy a dual core phone if you wanna tweak it to using only one? That's plain stupid.
Not to mention how the Atrix got a bigger improved battery than that of the sgs2, 300mah to be exact. This phone is built for bith performace and efficiency thecway it is and cm7 improves that even more. No need for such an app IMO.
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1. 320 extra battery life= no big deal!
2. SGS2 have SLCD+ (more energy efficient) compared to Atrix's Pentile Matrix, which consumes way more battery.
3. Plain stupid? Developers who have had an ingenious way to massively improve battery life by suppressing one core WHEN THE CORE IS NOT IN USE/ WHEN NOT NEEDED are plain stupid? God knows how you got 111 thanks!
4. With CM7 and without MotoBlur, the battery life has improved but not by much and battery life is 8-16 hours on CM7 depending on how much i use it. If this is what you call energy efficient, may God save the queen!
5. If you have nothing to contribute in terms of an intellectual debate, don't bother posting.
sk8trix said:
Sounds great and dude don't flame on him that's a great idea why have the the phone working so much when you're not using it.Most apps aren't even optimized for the two cores except for a very small amount and some games.I would like to be able to have one core running until I decide to watch some HD video or play some graphic intensive games and then disable the app for that period of time.This would extend battery life and you can still get performance when you need it why have it running full blast all day if you're at work and can't be playing with your phone???? makes no sense...just saying,especially with people who Overclock and stuff like that more battery efficiency is always a +
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You got it spot on dude. I was wondering if we could get a group of Atrix 4G users to contact the Devs of the app to see if they can get us a port. What do you think?
Please be respectful of other members.
Jibraldor said:
1. 320 extra battery life= no big deal!
2. SGS2 have SLCD+ (more energy efficient) compared to Atrix's Pentile Matrix, which consumes way more battery.
3. Plain stupid? Developers who have had an ingenious way to massively improve battery life by suppressing one core WHEN THE CORE IS NOT IN USE/ WHEN NOT NEEDED are plain stupid? God knows how you got 111 thanks!
4. With CM7 and without MotoBlur, the battery life has improved but not by much and battery life is 8-16 hours on CM7 depending on how much i use it. If this is what you call energy efficient, may God save the queen!
5. If you have nothing to contribute in terms of an intellectual debate, don't bother posting.
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So either I agree with you in this or I simply shouldn't post? Thank God you're not a mod or anything for that matter.
Second off, again I'll say it. Disabling a core in a two core phone is in fact a stupid idea. I recognize how much work such an app would take but its plain stupid. Why? Because as it is, genius, the phone only uses the two cores on high frequencies e.g:800, 1000...etc. And those CANT be reached unless the phone is being played with, other than that you've got one hell of a problem that no app, rom or kernel would fix I'm afraid.
As for the thanks no, I've got them for helping out and lending a hand in this great community. Which is something I'm sure you'll never do/understand.
And as far as cm7 goes, it gives me and many others a full day 24-28 hours on a single charge. So I'd look more into what eating my battery than into disabling my phone if I were you. (Thank God I'm not)
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If disrespect continues in this thread, there will be consequences.
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I was just posting a harmeless point of view no disrespect here
Jibraldor said:
You got it spot on dude. I was wondering if we could get a group of Atrix 4G users to contact the Devs of the app to see if they can get us a port. What do you think?
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Yea man it would be cool although we gotta take into consideration thetime it would take to develop an app like this for the atrix.....I doubt it would be easy and I'm sure it would take time for a Dev to put it together mayb if people are down to donate a little it might be an incentive....we'll see
The atrix actually disables one core when not in use. No need for a separate app.
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The atrix actually disables one core when not in use. No need for a separate app.
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That's correct, the atrix is doing this already thanks to faux's custom kernel. (All though I thought this was a function of the tegra2 chip, but maybe it had to be enabled which has been done through the kernel?)
Either way this app is not needed unless you want to micro manage what the kernel is already doing.
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So the faux kernel I have already does it.....oh wow ok so then that's great
Doesn't CPU Tuner have an option to use only one core as a profile? I have it checked off in my settings.
It does without the custom kernal download cpu gauge nd ull see its offline sometimes but jus touching the screen turns both cores to max.
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Has everybody encountered after doing some intensive stuff like doing AnTuTu benchmark, the phone abruptly slows down to a crawl where animations slow down like rotation being damn slow, swiping through screens also is slow, and games being damn slow. For instance, I ran AnTuTu benchmark and it won't go higher than 30FPS. where usually it's 40 - 60 FPS.
This is not the typical lag I encounter.
The only way to solve this is to restart the phone. Sometimes restarting the phone once is not enough.
This sounds fishy. Never happened to me before. Although will try again once I download Antutu.
Edit: Just checked... Ran Antutu. Got a score of 6474. Everything seems fine. After quitting Antutu, scrolled through the homescreens. Everything was smooth as before.
Edit2: Ran Antutu again & got a score of 6502. Tried playing ShadowGun immediately afterwards. It ran without any hiccups...
Currently on KL8.
Livewings said:
Has everybody encountered after doing some intensive stuff like doing AnTuTu benchmark, the phone abruptly slows down to a crawl where animations slow down like rotation being damn slow, swiping through screens also is slow, and games being damn slow. For instance, I ran AnTuTu benchmark and it won't go higher than 30FPS. where usually it's 40 - 60 FPS.
This is not the typical lag I encounter.
The only way to solve this is to restart the phone. Sometimes restarting the phone once is not enough.
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Turn off the power saving mode and you should notice a big improvement in lag.
I get around 56fps running AnTuTu with system power saving off.With power saving on,I only get 27fps.A big difference.
Could this be an overheating issue? Your cpu might be throttling coz of high temps.
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Raghav1980 said:
This sounds fishy. Never happened to me before. Although will try again once I download Antutu.
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This is not only because of AnTuTu, this only happens when I'm running an intensive app, where suddenly after exiting it will slow down to a crawl.
The most annoying part is the rotation animation. It is devastating slow.
noteworthy said:
Turn off the power saving mode and you should notice a big improvement in lag.
I get around 56fps running AnTuTu with system power saving off.With power saving on,I only get 27fps.A big difference.
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Power saving mode was never turned on at the first place.
pandey18 said:
Could this be an overheating issue? Your cpu might be throttling coz of high temps.
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I'm not sure because the phone also isn't hot at that time.
I haven't seen this issue either with benchmark apps or with intensive games. Might be an issue specific to your device. What rom is it running?
speedofheat said:
I haven't seen this issue either with benchmark apps or with intensive games. Might be an issue specific to your device. What rom is it running?
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I'm currently on ROMOW 5.1, previously using ROCKET ROM since V9.
I never had this issue on Stock ROM's.
Both custom ROM's I used had this issue.
Livewings said:
This is not only because of AnTuTu, this only happens when I'm running an intensive app, where suddenly after exiting it will slow down to a crawl.
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What sort of "intensive app"? Is it still running in the background?
If you have an app that uses a lot of memory, and then immediately try to use another memory intensive app, you may the OS begins to run low on memory as the garbage collector may not have run yet.
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Dave
foxmeister said:
What sort of "intensive app"? Is it still running in the background?
If you have an app that uses a lot of memory, and then immediately try to use another memory intensive app, you may the OS begins to run low on memory as the garbage collector may not have run yet.
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Dave
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After playing GTA 3, Modern Combat 3, Asphalt 6, I will have this issue.
Killing the tasks on task manager won't help, neither cleaning memory.
Same problem
I have exactly same problem, my phone starts to lag randomly example in browser.
First its super smooth and then suddenly it kind of turns off gpu acceleration and starts to lag.
Even cm9 alpha doesnt have this problem so it's wery strange issue. And its there on every phone my friend also noticed it.
this is an issue with mali driver on note.
the gpu clock have two clockspeed that is 160mhz and 267mhz.
during that time when u run the benchmark the gpu clock to 160 and only utilise half of the mali power.
this had been explained by tegrak, creator of tegrak app.
the only solution is reboot and rerun the test or flash fm 2.0 that is clock min to 200mhz or flash tegrak kernel (can find at tegrak 2nd core in android dev forum) and use tegrak overclock app to lock the gpu to 267mhz.
Livewings said:
I'm currently on ROMOW 5.1, previously using ROCKET ROM since V9.
I never had this issue on Stock ROM's.
Both custom ROM's I used had this issue.
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This is exactly I don't use ROMs other than CM. Eagerly waiting for CM9. Until then, I am happy with Stock.
deli_gt said:
I have exactlh same problem, my phone starts to lag randomly examble in browser.
First its super smoothand then suddenly it kind of turns off gpu acceleration and starts to lag.
Even cm9 alpha doesnt have this problem so it's wery strange issue. And its there on every phone my friend also noticed it.
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We don't have the same problem. The browser thing I think everyone has that problem. Mine is a rare issue where it affects the entire OS.
nameejokerx said:
this is an issue with mali driver on note.
the gpu clock have two clockspeed that is 160mhz and 267mhz.
during that time when u run the benchmark the gpu clock to 160 and only utilise half of the mali power.
this had been explained by tegrak, creator of tegrak app.
the only solution is reboot and rerun the test or flash fm 2.0 that is clock min to 200mhz or flash tegrak kernel (can find at tegrak 2nd core in android dev forum) and use tegrak overclock app to lock the gpu to 267mhz.
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Thank you, I believe you might be right. I'll try and report back.
Raghav1980 said:
This is exactly I don't use ROMs other than CM. Eagerly waiting for CM9. Until then, I am happy with Stock.
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CM9 is awesome, but I can't live without the video player.
It is same problem i have exactly same impact, everything becomes lagyer. Same thing with every note.
The browser was only sample where you can notice it.
I can hereby confirm that Tegrak Kernel Build 31 is able to resolve the issue after setting the minimum GPU clock to 267mhz on Overclock Ultimate.
FM Kernel 2.0 doesn't solve the issue.
Is the phone hot after running this intensive app? The Note will guard itself against high temps.
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Is the phone hot after running this intensive app? The Note will guard itself against high temps.
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One of my favorite things about the Note: No hotness!!! I had this issue all the time with the SGSII to the point that I couldn't hold it to me ear. My Note doesn't even get warm! So happy.
i am on a stock phone and seen enough force closures in the last week and more than enough in the last 48h. i was just showing my daughter the live wallpapers, so was just flipping through various ones, after flipping through them quickly and setting it, the phone froze, was not able to do anything for about half and hour as phone was booting and rebooting with me unable to even switch off the phone. luckily, at one point i just was able to change wall paper to the black wall paper available on the market and it sorted itself out. it has done this twice whle flipping through live wall papers quickly. the wll papers i was flipping through were flames, weather windmills, aquariium, 3d wall paper, most came with the phone with the exception of flames and black wallpaper.
the phone is fine now but OTG function is flaky, dont know if it is the connector, so have ordered a samsung otg from amazon now and will find out whether it is the phone or the cable.
the built in file manager has serious lag issues as it keeps 'processing' after changing every folder and have stopped using that now and use other free ad supported versions instead which have no problems. same with stock video player which keeps force closing often, so use mxplayer or dice player without issues.
an expensive phone like this should work stock apps fine and not require third party apps for video playing and file browsing etc. was on the verge of returning it when it froze but seems ok now.
My stock nexus 4 used to shoot up to 1.512 GHz just by playing with my home screen. But I dropped it on the table when I rushed to pick up a call. The fall was relatively minor so I didn't care much. However it started to lag a little on my live wallpaper and apps, even typing now feels a little like I'm using a budget android phone (yes, you know how that feels like, the pain, the pain!!) It still works, its just a little slow and the clock speed is really bothering me.
Turns out my clock speed harbors around 1.134 GHz when I use it now And RAM is around 900 MBs when it used to be around 400 . Tried a factory reset, no changes. Tried to return, failed. Can you guys think of anything? Seriously, I will try any darn thing to fix it..
AW: bizzare CPU clock speed problem
ryanok said:
My stock nexus 4 used to shoot up to 1.512 GHz just by playing with my home screen. But I dropped it on the table when I rushed to pick up a call. The fall was relatively minor so I didn't care much. However it started to lag a little on my live wallpaper and apps, even typing now feels a little like I'm using a budget android phone (yes, you know how that feels like, the pain, the pain!!) It still works, its just a little slow and the clock speed is really bothering me.
Turns out my clock speed harbors around 1.134 GHz when I use it now And RAM is around 900 MBs when it used to be around 400 . Tried a factory reset, no changes. Tried to return, failed. Can you guys think of anything? Seriously, I will try any darn thing to fix it..
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I'm pretty sure that this is not a malfunction but normal behaviour of MPDecision. When you use your phone normally, it won't immediately ramp up to 1,5 GHz but first to 1 GHz. What happens if you stress it a lot (try the app Stability Test)?
it only goes to 1512mhz when it needs to, otherwise itll stay at lower cpu speeds.
BlueFlame4 said:
I'm pretty sure that this is not a malfunction but normal behaviour of MPDecision. When you use your phone normally, it won't immediately ramp up to 1,5 GHz but first to 1 GHz. What happens if you stress it a lot (try the app Stability Test)?
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It went on for 5 minutes before the battery ran dry but it was the same... No change. And proof that there is something wrong. Look at the number of CPU runs, only 2! Before the drop, it would had been 20 over at least.
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it only goes to 1512mhz when it needs to, otherwise itll stay at lower cpu speeds.
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Before thanks to Butter UI I assume it would go to 1512 to make things smooth. Now it doesn't now so it lags very much. Even while playing games like temple run
2 the clock speed doesn't want to go any higher..
OK, anyone?
Should I root and flash a custom kernel and see? can I even repair this problem if I use my warranty?
Hi! my s4 is i9500 octa version
hmm well i want to underclock it to redect heat and battery and btw many things
i want to know is it possible to underclaock the GPU not cpu
i currently underclaocked cpu using system tuner and turned it to 1ghz btw im not sure if its on the powerful ones or the other ones! btw after underclaocking to 1ghz it still runs freaking fast! also freaking cold! i wanted to know if i can undercloack GPU too and maybe know wich cpu im on!
kamranhaghighi said:
Hi! my s4 is i9500 octa version
hmm well i want to underclock it to redect heat and battery and btw many things
i want to know is it possible to underclaock the GPU not cpu
i currently underclaocked cpu using system tuner and turned it to 1ghz btw im not sure if its on the powerful ones or the other ones! btw after underclaocking to 1ghz it still runs freaking fast! also freaking cold! i wanted to know if i can undercloack GPU too and maybe know wich cpu im on!
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Use persues kernal from original devlpmnt it should do all that u want
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thanks looking for thread wish i can undervolt too btw i feel bad flashing an custom kernel:S i love the stock in this phone
123hiten said:
Use persues kernal from original devlpmnt it should do all that u want
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btw whitout udnercloack my score on antutu is 22k isn't that low? if yes what to do?
kamranhaghighi said:
btw whitout udnercloack my score on antutu is 22k isn't that low? if yes what to do?
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Its just fine as long as ur device is working smooth and fast do not go for Scores as it depends all the times with various factors
123hiten said:
Its just fine as long as ur device is working smooth and fast do not go for Scores as it depends all the times with various factors
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u right btw the only thing lags is camera and gallery they HORRIBLY lag only at start like it takes 10 seconds to load gallery and 10sec to load camera! btw also 1 time it restart after starting camera other things are fine! btw guess not smooth as nexus 4 i had before changed it coz of vendor mistake btw i love this phone
kamranhaghighi said:
u right btw the only thing lags is camera and gallery they HORRIBLY lag only at start like it takes 10 seconds to load gallery and 10sec to load camera! btw also 1 time it restart after starting camera other things are fine! btw guess not smooth as nexus 4 i had before changed it coz of vendor mistake btw i love this phone
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Try to update the phone to current firmware for camera and gallery issue there myte also be a little delayed incase u have a sd card and its less in terms of class like 2/4 etc
oh u right i got a class 4 stupid sd card i fidned it somewhere in home seems it was forom a old camera btw my father ells me i will get u and 32-64gb when u got out of space but he doesn't know thats 4
i think it wasent like that befor sd card THINK i can't remmbe well but i temmber some day i turend camera it freezed for about 20 sec and restarted
and oh my s4 the alaxy s4 i9500 logo the black ad white just appears not like others sawed in youtube.. (it appears whit a effect from top - to bottom
So I upgraded my X compact to official Nougat 7.0 a couple of days back and on first impressions I noticed some lag here and there mostly when scrolling
And I knew that Snapdragon 650 is almost clos to SD810 so what could be the problem because it was awesomely fluid and smooth on MM 6.0.1, so I started to dig up and here's what I noticed:
In CPUz app on MM it shows Qualcomm SD 650 @ 1.8 GHz but today I looked it up and in Nougat it shows Qualcomm SD 650 @ 1.4 GHz!!! And if you look at cpu cores, those 2 last core Cpu4 and cpu5 are stopped (i guess those two are [email protected] cores right?)
So conclusion is that A72 cores which are the main core to maintain smoothness are offline for some reason so Im asking developers to dig this up and help us out
Thank you
If there is no activity they should be stopped. My old Xperia M2 usually had only 1 core out of 4 active at the minimum clock. Then sure, if something was running in the background all 4 kicked at the hight clock.
I can't check right now with Nougat (my phone is currently updating to it. But it seems to take an awful lot of time. I think it has been updating for 20 minutes or more. Hopefully it's just updating all Dalvik caches or what they are now), but in Marshmallow all 6 cores were always active even with the CPU nearly idle. In my case I think that helped to cause the somehow high battery drain I had (that and plus wakelocks spamming all time).
But sure, if that means the phone will start lagging, screw it. I could deal with a day of battery life, I sure can't deal (again. And then again and again!) with a keyboard showing up after 1 or more seconds also missing the keys while swiping.
PS: it finally installed. You're right. Something definitively looks wrong with it. The cores 4 & 5 are disabled even with Google Play doing some apps updates. Unless it's because CPU Z isn't supporting Nougat yet. I'll have to investigate more via adb.
PPS: It might be the typical placebo effect but it actually feels even smoother now! So I am not sure what's going on.
Nah definitly not smoother!
I Check with qualcomm app and those 2 core are off all the time and it is lagging very bad in many places
If you wanna see the lag you can go scroll fast in call log or install an app like telegram messenger and scrol in chats
And also I played spiderman unlimited game on it and its lagging there no
There was No lag at all on android 6
Guys please report this issue
I used CPU-Z and CPU N°4 and 5 seems to be stop.
After few hours I am not sur that there are more lag than before.
I made a test with Antutu, I had arround 75000 before the update, and arround 80000 after the update.
I think I will make a fresh installation tomorrow.
I don't have those problems....
edit: I HAVE THIS PROBLEM.....
Guys are you serious?!
You actually dont see the lags here and there? Ieven see it lags when there are some notifications and i wanna scroll em fast
Come on guys!
Can someone on 7.0 with the Issue use CPU-Z (from google play) and click on "online validation" and share thr link to the CPU information page here, please?
Kianush said:
Guys are you serious?!
You actually dont see the lags here and there? Ieven see it lags when there are some notifications and i wanna scroll em fast
Come on guys!
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you are too much dramatic...... there are some lag but not so much and not so drastic.....
and battery life is much much better on nougat
cingolat said:
you are too much dramatic...... there are some lag but not so much and not so drastic.....
and battery life is much much better on nougat
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Maybe I am but smoothness in compact size was the one and only reason I went for this little guy
And whats the point of havin SD650 if there isnt any A72 cores to operate
And I really prefer a 100% fluid rom than a couple of hours more juice...
Kianush said:
Maybe I am but smoothness in compact size was the one and only reason I went for this little guy
And whats the point of havin SD650 if there isnt any A72 cores to operate
And I really prefer a 100% fluid rom than a couple of hours more juice...
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I agree with you, and hope in a future update to solve this bug(because it is obviously a bug), but for now I can live with this.... maybe I'm lucky, but I don't have big lags, just a little bit here and there..... hope in future 7.1.1 to solve that....
another thing I notice is a louder speaker sound.....
dcro95 said:
I used CPU-Z and CPU N°4 and 5 seems to be stop.
After few hours I am not sur that there are more lag than before.
I made a test with Antutu, I had arround 75000 before the update, and arround 80000 after the update.
I think I will make a fresh installation tomorrow.
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Wich rom did you update from to get nougat?
Kianush said:
Nah definitly not smoother!
I Check with qualcomm app and those 2 core are off all the time and it is lagging very bad in many places
If you wanna see the lag you can go scroll fast in call log or install an app like telegram messenger and scrol in chats
And also I played spiderman unlimited game on it and its lagging there no
There was No lag at all on android 6
Guys please report this issue
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I confirm it doesn't lag for me. I checked scrolling through a long chat in Whatsapp and through the list of all my apps in Google Play (the latter has always been slow. Now it loads immediately, that's why I felt it was snappier). Then I tested with Antutu and I have got 74K (not sure why @dcro95 has got 80K, though).
Then if you look in Antutu/Info/CPU/More you see that for core 5&6 it says they are disabled. But at the same time it shows the percentage of their are activity (which, being the cores disabled, should be none). I didn't have time to check with adb, yet. But what I suspected and it seems to be confirmed by Antutu is that there might be a "bug" where the values for the cores active have the "read" flag cleared, like it happened with the minfree values in Lollipop with some Xperia (M2 for sure. It was "-w--w-----" instead of "rw-rw----".
Anyway, in case of your very noticeable lag I'd suggest to first check your stamina settings. If I enable the Stamina the phone lags immediately. Either with Nougat or Marshmallow.
Oh, and it mat not matter f you didn't enable the Stamina before upgrading. After the upgrade plenty of my configuration parameters simply went bananas. It changed my WiFi settings, removing the static address. And in the case of an app (but I imagine more of them at this point), it modified the login. I'm sure the login was correct because I had a widget for that app active (and working fine).
PS: my battery life still sucks, though. Actually it is even worse than before. I may have to backup, reset and restore the phone and see if it helps.
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Wich rom did you update from to get nougat?
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I had a customized FR ROM 34.1.A.3.49, I had the Nougat update by OTA.
I made some test with ANTUTU with Nougat ROM, the results are :
- 80160
- 75600
- 74600
- 80780
Miche1asso said:
I confirm it doesn't lag for me. I checked scrolling through a long chat in Whatsapp and through the list of all my apps in Google Play (the latter has always been slow. Now it loads immediately, that's why I felt it was snappier). Then I tested with Antutu and I have got 74K (not sure why @dcro95 has got 80K, though).
Then if you look in Antutu/Info/CPU/More you see that for core 5&6 it says they are disabled. But at the same time it shows the percentage of their are activity (which, being the cores disabled, should be none). I didn't have time to check with adb, yet. But what I suspected and it seems to be confirmed by Antutu is that there might be a "bug" where the values for the cores active have the "read" flag cleared, like it happened with the minfree values in Lollipop with some Xperia (M2 for sure. It was "-w--w-----" instead of "rw-rw----".
Anyway, in case of your very noticeable lag I'd suggest to first check your stamina settings. If I enable the Stamina the phone lags immediately. Either with Nougat or Marshmallow.
Oh, and it mat not matter f you didn't enable the Stamina before upgrading. After the upgrade plenty of my configuration parameters simply went bananas. It changed my WiFi settings, removing the static address. And in the case of an app (but I imagine more of them at this point), it modified the login. I'm sure the login was correct because I had a widget for that app active (and working fine).
PS: my battery life still sucks, though. Actually it is even worse than before. I may have to backup, reset and restore the phone and see if it helps.
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Thank you for you info man but let me explain it to you again
Firstly, what Im saying is on microscopic scale, I do feel even the smallest amount of lag
The laging that comes up after turning on Stamina is waaaay more than the lag that I talked about in OP, of course that is big enough to be seen by anyone!
On android 6.0.1 I didnt see even the smallest lag absolutly nothing! but after the upgrade to 7.0 I was starting to see small lags here and there(you might not even see it! Im very sensitive in this case) like for example when you have 3 notifications try to open notification bar with slow to normal finger swipe down, it lags a little there, and other examples that i said before.
At first i thought maybe the rom is not well optimized but after I saw cpuz I was sure that those cores are off!
On android MM telegram messenger had no lags, nothing! But now it lags a lot when scrolling but i say again this "a lot" is in compariaon to MM! not to Xperia tipo!!!
So I am 100% positive that A72 1.8Ghz cores are not functioning.
Lets go and try to fix that, or wait for an update to fix it.
I created a thread here quoting your first post. Maybe it will get more attention
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...ock/td-p/1187152/jump-to/first-unread-message
Have reboot the phone and the core 5 & 6 were activated (up to 1,8)
Just after make it sleep, the core were stopped. Maybe an issue with doze ?
However I can"t say it lag. It maybe a little longer to charge game or big app but I use them to rarely to compare
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Have reboot the phone and the core 5 & 6 were activated (up to 1,8)
Just after make it sleep, the core were stopped. Maybe an issue with doze ?
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Same for me, after reboot and used photos, th� where actived and cpu turn at 1.8ghz. 5min after they where disable. I think it depend cpu use. I ve no lag.
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Thank you for you info man but let me explain it to you again
Firstly, what Im saying is on microscopic scale, I do feel even the smallest amount of lag.
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Hmmm.. Nope, my friend. You talked about a lot of lag: these are your very own words: "it is lagging very bad in many places"
Now if the problem is that you perceive a microlag that could be. With Lagdroid I learned how to ignore that for good.
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So I am 100% positive that A72 1.8Ghz cores are not functioning.
Lets go and try to fix that, or wait for an update to fix it.
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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Hmmm.. Nope, my friend. You talked about a lot of lag: these are your very own words: "it is lagging very bad in many places"
Now if the problem is that you perceive a microlag that could be. With Lagdroid I learned how to ignore that for good.
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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So what you say is that those cores are functioning normally but its juat showing them sleep right?!?
Then please tell me whats the reason on these even small lags?
Those dont matter actually, I need to know why I cant play spiderman unlimited and asphalt 8 on ultra setting like before
You could test them yourself
See 4 a53 1.4GHz are enough for daily usage but on heavy usage its obiouse that those a72 cores are missing
But there is one probibility, that those guys become active on very high usage like antutu! But I guess thats gonna be VERY HIGH!
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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I have exactly the same on Antutu, and the max frequency is 1804 MHz.