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Hello.
I have a general question I have been searching for on Google and the forum here. I am wondering if someone could tell me some areas that I will notice the benefits of overclocking. What I mean is, I understand it speeds up the CPU, but other than running a quadrant score (which means nothing to me really) where would you see the results to the naked eye?
Since flashing Lightspeed ROM and using Thor's Kernals it does appear that my internet pages load faster and the boot animations load faster. I think it seems like my thumb keyboards pop up a slight bit faster as well.
Are these the noticeable changes? Or are they just in my head since I am overclocking? (OR I think I am)
I am using SetCPU and have the Max set to about 1.5 and the Min set to 1.0 or 1.2 most of the time.
If someone could weigh in with some more knowledgeable information and possibly point me to a nice write up for Noobs like me who are interested in learning more about the benefits of Overclocking as well as maybe a guide for advice using SetCPU (or another App?) that is more recommended by those on here, I would appreciate it!
Thanks!!
Mine's takes about 30 seconds to boot from vibrate to lock screen if that makes any difference. OC to 1.5 using taboonay 2.0 with HV 3.4 kernal.
Mine defiantly seems to boot up faster. I do not play a lot of game on the tab, mainly just internet and movies, so I am not sure I am doing anything that would require such an increase in graphics speed that I am noticing the major differences. Right now I have mine set to about 1.4 and it is very stable with no problems. If I go to 1.6 I notice things start FC'ing more often.
HD playback has definitely improved since overclocking on 3.1, some 720p videos that suffered from random slow downs now play flawlessly with setcpu at 1.5 on performance mode, temps always stay below 35°c hours after being set to performance.
The rest is minor improvements.
SoHaunted said:
HD playback has definitely improved since overclocking on 3.1, some 720p videos that suffered from random slow downs now play flawlessly with setcpu at 1.5 on performance mode, temps always stay below 35°c hours after being set to performance.
The rest is minor improvements.
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Thanks. I will have to take a look at that tomorrow when I am stuck on the plane for a few hours.
Has everybody encountered after doing some intensive stuff like doing AnTuTu benchmark, the phone abruptly slows down to a crawl where animations slow down like rotation being damn slow, swiping through screens also is slow, and games being damn slow. For instance, I ran AnTuTu benchmark and it won't go higher than 30FPS. where usually it's 40 - 60 FPS.
This is not the typical lag I encounter.
The only way to solve this is to restart the phone. Sometimes restarting the phone once is not enough.
This sounds fishy. Never happened to me before. Although will try again once I download Antutu.
Edit: Just checked... Ran Antutu. Got a score of 6474. Everything seems fine. After quitting Antutu, scrolled through the homescreens. Everything was smooth as before.
Edit2: Ran Antutu again & got a score of 6502. Tried playing ShadowGun immediately afterwards. It ran without any hiccups...
Currently on KL8.
Livewings said:
Has everybody encountered after doing some intensive stuff like doing AnTuTu benchmark, the phone abruptly slows down to a crawl where animations slow down like rotation being damn slow, swiping through screens also is slow, and games being damn slow. For instance, I ran AnTuTu benchmark and it won't go higher than 30FPS. where usually it's 40 - 60 FPS.
This is not the typical lag I encounter.
The only way to solve this is to restart the phone. Sometimes restarting the phone once is not enough.
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Turn off the power saving mode and you should notice a big improvement in lag.
I get around 56fps running AnTuTu with system power saving off.With power saving on,I only get 27fps.A big difference.
Could this be an overheating issue? Your cpu might be throttling coz of high temps.
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Raghav1980 said:
This sounds fishy. Never happened to me before. Although will try again once I download Antutu.
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This is not only because of AnTuTu, this only happens when I'm running an intensive app, where suddenly after exiting it will slow down to a crawl.
The most annoying part is the rotation animation. It is devastating slow.
noteworthy said:
Turn off the power saving mode and you should notice a big improvement in lag.
I get around 56fps running AnTuTu with system power saving off.With power saving on,I only get 27fps.A big difference.
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Power saving mode was never turned on at the first place.
pandey18 said:
Could this be an overheating issue? Your cpu might be throttling coz of high temps.
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I'm not sure because the phone also isn't hot at that time.
I haven't seen this issue either with benchmark apps or with intensive games. Might be an issue specific to your device. What rom is it running?
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I haven't seen this issue either with benchmark apps or with intensive games. Might be an issue specific to your device. What rom is it running?
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I'm currently on ROMOW 5.1, previously using ROCKET ROM since V9.
I never had this issue on Stock ROM's.
Both custom ROM's I used had this issue.
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This is not only because of AnTuTu, this only happens when I'm running an intensive app, where suddenly after exiting it will slow down to a crawl.
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What sort of "intensive app"? Is it still running in the background?
If you have an app that uses a lot of memory, and then immediately try to use another memory intensive app, you may the OS begins to run low on memory as the garbage collector may not have run yet.
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Dave
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What sort of "intensive app"? Is it still running in the background?
If you have an app that uses a lot of memory, and then immediately try to use another memory intensive app, you may the OS begins to run low on memory as the garbage collector may not have run yet.
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After playing GTA 3, Modern Combat 3, Asphalt 6, I will have this issue.
Killing the tasks on task manager won't help, neither cleaning memory.
Same problem
I have exactly same problem, my phone starts to lag randomly example in browser.
First its super smooth and then suddenly it kind of turns off gpu acceleration and starts to lag.
Even cm9 alpha doesnt have this problem so it's wery strange issue. And its there on every phone my friend also noticed it.
this is an issue with mali driver on note.
the gpu clock have two clockspeed that is 160mhz and 267mhz.
during that time when u run the benchmark the gpu clock to 160 and only utilise half of the mali power.
this had been explained by tegrak, creator of tegrak app.
the only solution is reboot and rerun the test or flash fm 2.0 that is clock min to 200mhz or flash tegrak kernel (can find at tegrak 2nd core in android dev forum) and use tegrak overclock app to lock the gpu to 267mhz.
Livewings said:
I'm currently on ROMOW 5.1, previously using ROCKET ROM since V9.
I never had this issue on Stock ROM's.
Both custom ROM's I used had this issue.
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This is exactly I don't use ROMs other than CM. Eagerly waiting for CM9. Until then, I am happy with Stock.
deli_gt said:
I have exactlh same problem, my phone starts to lag randomly examble in browser.
First its super smoothand then suddenly it kind of turns off gpu acceleration and starts to lag.
Even cm9 alpha doesnt have this problem so it's wery strange issue. And its there on every phone my friend also noticed it.
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We don't have the same problem. The browser thing I think everyone has that problem. Mine is a rare issue where it affects the entire OS.
nameejokerx said:
this is an issue with mali driver on note.
the gpu clock have two clockspeed that is 160mhz and 267mhz.
during that time when u run the benchmark the gpu clock to 160 and only utilise half of the mali power.
this had been explained by tegrak, creator of tegrak app.
the only solution is reboot and rerun the test or flash fm 2.0 that is clock min to 200mhz or flash tegrak kernel (can find at tegrak 2nd core in android dev forum) and use tegrak overclock app to lock the gpu to 267mhz.
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Thank you, I believe you might be right. I'll try and report back.
Raghav1980 said:
This is exactly I don't use ROMs other than CM. Eagerly waiting for CM9. Until then, I am happy with Stock.
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CM9 is awesome, but I can't live without the video player.
It is same problem i have exactly same impact, everything becomes lagyer. Same thing with every note.
The browser was only sample where you can notice it.
I can hereby confirm that Tegrak Kernel Build 31 is able to resolve the issue after setting the minimum GPU clock to 267mhz on Overclock Ultimate.
FM Kernel 2.0 doesn't solve the issue.
Is the phone hot after running this intensive app? The Note will guard itself against high temps.
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Is the phone hot after running this intensive app? The Note will guard itself against high temps.
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One of my favorite things about the Note: No hotness!!! I had this issue all the time with the SGSII to the point that I couldn't hold it to me ear. My Note doesn't even get warm! So happy.
i am on a stock phone and seen enough force closures in the last week and more than enough in the last 48h. i was just showing my daughter the live wallpapers, so was just flipping through various ones, after flipping through them quickly and setting it, the phone froze, was not able to do anything for about half and hour as phone was booting and rebooting with me unable to even switch off the phone. luckily, at one point i just was able to change wall paper to the black wall paper available on the market and it sorted itself out. it has done this twice whle flipping through live wall papers quickly. the wll papers i was flipping through were flames, weather windmills, aquariium, 3d wall paper, most came with the phone with the exception of flames and black wallpaper.
the phone is fine now but OTG function is flaky, dont know if it is the connector, so have ordered a samsung otg from amazon now and will find out whether it is the phone or the cable.
the built in file manager has serious lag issues as it keeps 'processing' after changing every folder and have stopped using that now and use other free ad supported versions instead which have no problems. same with stock video player which keeps force closing often, so use mxplayer or dice player without issues.
an expensive phone like this should work stock apps fine and not require third party apps for video playing and file browsing etc. was on the verge of returning it when it froze but seems ok now.
After the release of Clemsyn's 1.6 GHz Kernel for CM7 based ROMs last night, I immediately switched to it just to see.
But before that I was running Faux123 1.3 GHz.
I'm keeping the Clemsyn kernel for now, simply because I can. My phone can run it with little difficulty thus far and I have a profile to lower the max freq when the CPU gets to a certain temperature. I think I went with about 65 Celsisus.
Before I switched back to CM7 (or rather Neutrino) I was using Wet Dream. I OCed to 1.45 then in attempt to compensate for only half decent webtop performance.
But now I really only do it because I can. Whenever possible, my phone is on the lapdock since I like to HDMI mirror. Battery is not a concern since the lapdock charges the phone and I pretty much always keep the lapdock charger on hand in my bag.
I just thought it would be an interesting subject for the community to discuss as I'm sure it's something that a number of us haven't even thought of and I bet a good number of us fall into the because I can or bragging rights category.
Specific instances of problems OCing helped with in x app or y app might make someone else want to OC whereas someone who doesn't OC might persuade a user like myself to drop it for amazing battery ETC.
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Why I DO OC.
Right now I have my Atrix OC'ed at 1.45. I'm currently running Alien ROM Build #4.
The CPU has never gotten past ~55º C.
I also have 2 profiles set
1 for Screen off - 800 MHz max.
1 for Battery< 10% -216 MHz max.
This paired with Alien ROM and LP has left me with a buttery smooth experience.
Is the 1.6 OC kernel worth giving a shot? Or does it make the CPU run excessively hot?
EDIT: I didn't really address battery life. I don't notice a huge decrease in battery life, I'm a pretty heavy user- SMS, Web, Video streaming, Facebook, Twitter. Over all OC'ing is definitely worth it to me.
I like to keep mine overclocked because it seems snapier. I use faux 1.45 and its great. Ive noticed clem's likes to make my phone very hot when running video or games and has actually shut my phone down due to heat. If I run clems I like to drop the overclock with setcpu to around 1.3 so it doesnt shut down but seems to get way hotter than faux's. Anything over 1.5 is just going to cause damage to peoples phones and IMO it should not be used so lightly.
I'm OC'd to 1.45ghz I do it for performance and those random times I need to benchmark I want to try 1.5-6 but I can't seem to get them to boot with the ICS mod2 cm7 so till cm9 or neutrino ill just float about with what I have
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No need for 1.6 IMO.
1.3 is plenty for the Atrix. Even Faux 1.0 is fine. Its a phone, not a PC.
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I dunno...my webtop configuration may want to take exception to that statement
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I dunno...my webtop configuration may want to take exception to that statement
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i honestly haven't been able to really tell a difference between 1.0 and 1.3GHz in most of my applications. it definitely doesn't help with system slowdown due to live wallpapers, which is a disappointment.
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I dunno...my webtop configuration may want to take exception to that statement
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Haha, I was in that boat before I switched to HDMI mirroring coupled with VNC or Splashtop (when applicable) from experience, I can tell why Webtop users want OC. You can turn your phone into such a useful computer, and then it falls flat on its face because the inner-workings aren't streamlined. The extra power DOES help in that situation.
But in my actual experience, I haven't seen many realworld benefits past 1.2.
Especially since 1.6 kept eventually shutting down on me after about an hour (assuming there is the same issue as in Clemsyn 1.5, setting your max to a lower frequency than 1.6 won't stick so my temperature profile wouldn't actually work)
My "because I can" mindset is going to leave me stuck on 1.45 though most likely. I keep it maxed at 1.2(or is it 1.1? I'm not using the kernel right now) and then have a profile to ramp it up to 1.45 when it's on the charger (aka my lapdock)
I don't think it is quite the same for Blur based ROMs, but on CM7 1.0 seems perfectly adequate for the Atrix. Even at it's stock speed, it is snappy.
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I dont overclock. I used to be at 1.3ghz, but I didnt see a big enough difference to keep it. At least on CM7, the Atrix is plenty fast on stock speed.
I overclock, but I wait for thoroughly tested kernels before doing so. Right now I'm with faux's v023r @ 1.3 Ghz. I'll try Clemsyn's after its second or third "redesign" or bugfix.
I stick to optimal battery life kernels rather than performance (faux 123 0.2.3 being the one I'm currently on and most likely will be for the foreseeable future)
Also I can't imagine performance possibly getting any quicker or running programs any faster than they already are on the atrix.
Honestly, I never understood why people oc their phone, especially the Atrix. I mean the phone is already fast being that it is 1Ghz dual core. Plus from what I have seen, the Atrix overheats like crazy with the stock frequency so why would you want to increase that even more, so it explodes? I use my phone to mostly play 3D games and I have never encountered any lag or low fps whenever I play games.
Atrix_Owner said:
Honestly, I never understood why people oc their phone, especially the Atrix. I mean the phone is already fast being that it is 1Ghz dual core. Plus from what I have seen, the Atrix overheats like crazy with the stock frequency so why would you want to increase that even more, so it explodes? I use my phone to mostly play 3D games and I have never encountered any lag or low fps whenever I play games.
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The Atrix is plenty fast already. I can understand if you OC a HTC Magic, or a Hero; but there's no real need to do so on the Atrix.
Idk I see a difference on any launcher when I flip through pages and through apps. 1.3 or 1.45. But I def notice the difference in snappyness.
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95% of the time I overclock I do it for getting awesome benchmark scores that I can admire. 5% of the time I do it when playing 3D games like Fruit Ninja, It seems a lot smoother to me. But I hardly ever do it because it sucks the battery down so fast, so usually I'm at 1ghz. Also it's just kind of cool to see the the potential the phone has when overclocking.
i used faux's kernel to overclock to 1.3 for a few months but i didnt really see any difference except when i run quadrant or how my phone got hotter than stock when under load. another thing that annoyed me with faux's kernel was constantly losing widgets on reboot. i use two batteries so i reboot pretty often.
I used faux 23r 1.4GHz with setCPU profiles.
Profiles clamped speed to 1ghz at cpu temp of 50degc and 800mhz at 60degc.
Most noticeable difference was in k9 mail, indexing and searching were slightly improved.
I ran it so I would get a short boost if the cpu was cold.
Matthew
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Hey
On my old and feeble Hero I had to OC, if I wanted it to run fine, however I never felt the need to OC my Atrix. it has so much juice in it without OC, making it useless to squeeze the battery for the extra 0.2-0.5 GHz. Moreover, since we have no real ICS, our CPU runs freely and waste energy for nothing, so OC it will just make it run ever faster for nothing (In Hebrew there is a saying- running full throttle on neutral ).
I used to run Faux123 1.0Ghz kernel just to UV the device, but since I flashed weekly 6 I use the stock kernel, and it runs great, no overheating, and extremely stable (What cannot be said on UV kernels...)
The only time i oc is when using webtop, that extra speed makes a difference. The rest of the its running at 1ghz and seems plenty
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So I upgraded my X compact to official Nougat 7.0 a couple of days back and on first impressions I noticed some lag here and there mostly when scrolling
And I knew that Snapdragon 650 is almost clos to SD810 so what could be the problem because it was awesomely fluid and smooth on MM 6.0.1, so I started to dig up and here's what I noticed:
In CPUz app on MM it shows Qualcomm SD 650 @ 1.8 GHz but today I looked it up and in Nougat it shows Qualcomm SD 650 @ 1.4 GHz!!! And if you look at cpu cores, those 2 last core Cpu4 and cpu5 are stopped (i guess those two are [email protected] cores right?)
So conclusion is that A72 cores which are the main core to maintain smoothness are offline for some reason so Im asking developers to dig this up and help us out
Thank you
If there is no activity they should be stopped. My old Xperia M2 usually had only 1 core out of 4 active at the minimum clock. Then sure, if something was running in the background all 4 kicked at the hight clock.
I can't check right now with Nougat (my phone is currently updating to it. But it seems to take an awful lot of time. I think it has been updating for 20 minutes or more. Hopefully it's just updating all Dalvik caches or what they are now), but in Marshmallow all 6 cores were always active even with the CPU nearly idle. In my case I think that helped to cause the somehow high battery drain I had (that and plus wakelocks spamming all time).
But sure, if that means the phone will start lagging, screw it. I could deal with a day of battery life, I sure can't deal (again. And then again and again!) with a keyboard showing up after 1 or more seconds also missing the keys while swiping.
PS: it finally installed. You're right. Something definitively looks wrong with it. The cores 4 & 5 are disabled even with Google Play doing some apps updates. Unless it's because CPU Z isn't supporting Nougat yet. I'll have to investigate more via adb.
PPS: It might be the typical placebo effect but it actually feels even smoother now! So I am not sure what's going on.
Nah definitly not smoother!
I Check with qualcomm app and those 2 core are off all the time and it is lagging very bad in many places
If you wanna see the lag you can go scroll fast in call log or install an app like telegram messenger and scrol in chats
And also I played spiderman unlimited game on it and its lagging there no
There was No lag at all on android 6
Guys please report this issue
I used CPU-Z and CPU N°4 and 5 seems to be stop.
After few hours I am not sur that there are more lag than before.
I made a test with Antutu, I had arround 75000 before the update, and arround 80000 after the update.
I think I will make a fresh installation tomorrow.
I don't have those problems....
edit: I HAVE THIS PROBLEM.....
Guys are you serious?!
You actually dont see the lags here and there? Ieven see it lags when there are some notifications and i wanna scroll em fast
Come on guys!
Can someone on 7.0 with the Issue use CPU-Z (from google play) and click on "online validation" and share thr link to the CPU information page here, please?
Kianush said:
Guys are you serious?!
You actually dont see the lags here and there? Ieven see it lags when there are some notifications and i wanna scroll em fast
Come on guys!
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you are too much dramatic...... there are some lag but not so much and not so drastic.....
and battery life is much much better on nougat
cingolat said:
you are too much dramatic...... there are some lag but not so much and not so drastic.....
and battery life is much much better on nougat
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Maybe I am but smoothness in compact size was the one and only reason I went for this little guy
And whats the point of havin SD650 if there isnt any A72 cores to operate
And I really prefer a 100% fluid rom than a couple of hours more juice...
Kianush said:
Maybe I am but smoothness in compact size was the one and only reason I went for this little guy
And whats the point of havin SD650 if there isnt any A72 cores to operate
And I really prefer a 100% fluid rom than a couple of hours more juice...
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I agree with you, and hope in a future update to solve this bug(because it is obviously a bug), but for now I can live with this.... maybe I'm lucky, but I don't have big lags, just a little bit here and there..... hope in future 7.1.1 to solve that....
another thing I notice is a louder speaker sound.....
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I used CPU-Z and CPU N°4 and 5 seems to be stop.
After few hours I am not sur that there are more lag than before.
I made a test with Antutu, I had arround 75000 before the update, and arround 80000 after the update.
I think I will make a fresh installation tomorrow.
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Wich rom did you update from to get nougat?
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Nah definitly not smoother!
I Check with qualcomm app and those 2 core are off all the time and it is lagging very bad in many places
If you wanna see the lag you can go scroll fast in call log or install an app like telegram messenger and scrol in chats
And also I played spiderman unlimited game on it and its lagging there no
There was No lag at all on android 6
Guys please report this issue
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I confirm it doesn't lag for me. I checked scrolling through a long chat in Whatsapp and through the list of all my apps in Google Play (the latter has always been slow. Now it loads immediately, that's why I felt it was snappier). Then I tested with Antutu and I have got 74K (not sure why @dcro95 has got 80K, though).
Then if you look in Antutu/Info/CPU/More you see that for core 5&6 it says they are disabled. But at the same time it shows the percentage of their are activity (which, being the cores disabled, should be none). I didn't have time to check with adb, yet. But what I suspected and it seems to be confirmed by Antutu is that there might be a "bug" where the values for the cores active have the "read" flag cleared, like it happened with the minfree values in Lollipop with some Xperia (M2 for sure. It was "-w--w-----" instead of "rw-rw----".
Anyway, in case of your very noticeable lag I'd suggest to first check your stamina settings. If I enable the Stamina the phone lags immediately. Either with Nougat or Marshmallow.
Oh, and it mat not matter f you didn't enable the Stamina before upgrading. After the upgrade plenty of my configuration parameters simply went bananas. It changed my WiFi settings, removing the static address. And in the case of an app (but I imagine more of them at this point), it modified the login. I'm sure the login was correct because I had a widget for that app active (and working fine).
PS: my battery life still sucks, though. Actually it is even worse than before. I may have to backup, reset and restore the phone and see if it helps.
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Wich rom did you update from to get nougat?
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I had a customized FR ROM 34.1.A.3.49, I had the Nougat update by OTA.
I made some test with ANTUTU with Nougat ROM, the results are :
- 80160
- 75600
- 74600
- 80780
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I confirm it doesn't lag for me. I checked scrolling through a long chat in Whatsapp and through the list of all my apps in Google Play (the latter has always been slow. Now it loads immediately, that's why I felt it was snappier). Then I tested with Antutu and I have got 74K (not sure why @dcro95 has got 80K, though).
Then if you look in Antutu/Info/CPU/More you see that for core 5&6 it says they are disabled. But at the same time it shows the percentage of their are activity (which, being the cores disabled, should be none). I didn't have time to check with adb, yet. But what I suspected and it seems to be confirmed by Antutu is that there might be a "bug" where the values for the cores active have the "read" flag cleared, like it happened with the minfree values in Lollipop with some Xperia (M2 for sure. It was "-w--w-----" instead of "rw-rw----".
Anyway, in case of your very noticeable lag I'd suggest to first check your stamina settings. If I enable the Stamina the phone lags immediately. Either with Nougat or Marshmallow.
Oh, and it mat not matter f you didn't enable the Stamina before upgrading. After the upgrade plenty of my configuration parameters simply went bananas. It changed my WiFi settings, removing the static address. And in the case of an app (but I imagine more of them at this point), it modified the login. I'm sure the login was correct because I had a widget for that app active (and working fine).
PS: my battery life still sucks, though. Actually it is even worse than before. I may have to backup, reset and restore the phone and see if it helps.
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Thank you for you info man but let me explain it to you again
Firstly, what Im saying is on microscopic scale, I do feel even the smallest amount of lag
The laging that comes up after turning on Stamina is waaaay more than the lag that I talked about in OP, of course that is big enough to be seen by anyone!
On android 6.0.1 I didnt see even the smallest lag absolutly nothing! but after the upgrade to 7.0 I was starting to see small lags here and there(you might not even see it! Im very sensitive in this case) like for example when you have 3 notifications try to open notification bar with slow to normal finger swipe down, it lags a little there, and other examples that i said before.
At first i thought maybe the rom is not well optimized but after I saw cpuz I was sure that those cores are off!
On android MM telegram messenger had no lags, nothing! But now it lags a lot when scrolling but i say again this "a lot" is in compariaon to MM! not to Xperia tipo!!!
So I am 100% positive that A72 1.8Ghz cores are not functioning.
Lets go and try to fix that, or wait for an update to fix it.
I created a thread here quoting your first post. Maybe it will get more attention
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...ock/td-p/1187152/jump-to/first-unread-message
Have reboot the phone and the core 5 & 6 were activated (up to 1,8)
Just after make it sleep, the core were stopped. Maybe an issue with doze ?
However I can"t say it lag. It maybe a little longer to charge game or big app but I use them to rarely to compare
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Have reboot the phone and the core 5 & 6 were activated (up to 1,8)
Just after make it sleep, the core were stopped. Maybe an issue with doze ?
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Same for me, after reboot and used photos, th� where actived and cpu turn at 1.8ghz. 5min after they where disable. I think it depend cpu use. I ve no lag.
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Thank you for you info man but let me explain it to you again
Firstly, what Im saying is on microscopic scale, I do feel even the smallest amount of lag.
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Hmmm.. Nope, my friend. You talked about a lot of lag: these are your very own words: "it is lagging very bad in many places"
Now if the problem is that you perceive a microlag that could be. With Lagdroid I learned how to ignore that for good.
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So I am 100% positive that A72 1.8Ghz cores are not functioning.
Lets go and try to fix that, or wait for an update to fix it.
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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Hmmm.. Nope, my friend. You talked about a lot of lag: these are your very own words: "it is lagging very bad in many places"
Now if the problem is that you perceive a microlag that could be. With Lagdroid I learned how to ignore that for good.
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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So what you say is that those cores are functioning normally but its juat showing them sleep right?!?
Then please tell me whats the reason on these even small lags?
Those dont matter actually, I need to know why I cant play spiderman unlimited and asphalt 8 on ultra setting like before
You could test them yourself
See 4 a53 1.4GHz are enough for daily usage but on heavy usage its obiouse that those a72 cores are missing
But there is one probibility, that those guys become active on very high usage like antutu! But I guess thats gonna be VERY HIGH!
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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I have exactly the same on Antutu, and the max frequency is 1804 MHz.
abandoned.
Can this apply on mi 11?
huycoixvb said:
Can this apply on mi 11?
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Not exactly.
This chart is for the sd865.
Mi11 has a sd888, so the voltage levels will be different.
The basic idea is the same. But it requires testing and proofing.
Do you have source of konabess app? If possibility, send me pls :3
Thanks really useful
Great guide, this post definitely deserves more views. Got one question: if my goal frequency is (let's say) 660MHz, isn't it better to set ddr7 and ddr8 max values to 11? Would it squeeze out more performance at max load, in your opinion?
Keppo2911 said:
Great guide, this post definitely deserves more views. Got one question: if my goal frequency is (let's say) 660MHz, isn't it better to set ddr7 and ddr8 max values to 11? Would it squeeze out more performance at max load, in your opinion?
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Not really. The ddr timings are not really set for balanced performance.
Trottling happens alot, so finding a balance give overall better performance than burst performance thatxthen gives lower results due tocthe time to cool being longer than the time to heat up.
I was able to get a higher antutu score than stock at 670, with timings between 4-9
But its all based on user preference and work loads. These settings work excellently well for me.
The big difference though is the voltage table. Less electricity going in creates less heat.
The ram timings are just a minor tweak to add a bit more to the clock. Its the voltage that really changed big time for me. Lower volts, less heat, longer time at high clocks.
Patrick Morgan said:
Not really. The ddr timings are not really set for balanced performance.
Trottling happens alot, so finding a balance give overall better performance than burst performance thatxthen gives lower results due tocthe time to cool being longer than the time to heat up.
I was able to get a higher antutu score than stock at 670, with timings between 4-9
But its all based on user preference and work loads. These settings work excellently well for me.
The big difference though is the voltage table. Less electricity going in creates less heat.
The ram timings are just a minor tweak to add a bit more to the clock. Its the voltage that really changed big time for me. Lower volts, less heat, longer time at high clocks.
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Loud n' clear, thanks alot!
How can I edit Votages is volts table ?
Can l do this in xiaomi mi 10t pro?
yeh with any smartphone with snapdragon from 855. Just root and install konabess from GitHub and overclock and undervolt
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Hi Patrick, sorry to ask but you abandoned for some reason?
I have a OnePlus 9R (SNAP 870) and it's hot, I'm looking for an undervolt on it but I can't find anything, could you give me some direction?
Use this table from this post in this video.
Max freq on Poco F3 is 683Mhz you have to try if can be overclock higher but Undervolt is still possible as all phones.
I recommend new version 0.15 on two lower freq retention and min_svs or low svs on third and do like in this table so 670 voltage SVS_L2.
I don't think that Snapdragon 870 is good choice for gaming better is to buy 865 and overclock to 950Mhz or 1ghz giving snapdragon 888 performance with lower temps than 870 and 888.
If you do root try to underclock CPU to 865+ 3ghz or 2.9ghz to lower temps performance difference isn't noticable.
vinyimp said:
Hi Patrick, sorry to ask but you abandoned for some reason?
I have a OnePlus 9R (SNAP 870) and it's hot, I'm looking for an undervolt on it but I can't find anything, could you give me some direction?
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things just update faster than I have time to test.
my charts became old, even the one Dr.Brown is using on his video, its quite old missing voltage steps and have not been tested on the newer versions of Konabess.
my original thread here took about 3 months of my time testing every possible setting to make sure other users didnt brick or toast their devices.
I took everything down when I seen alot of new rom updates, and konabess updates were causing bugs in the settings I had here for many users.
I didn't have time to retest everything and update my charts, I also had to deal with people stealing my charts and claiming the work for them selves. which I had to open youtube reports, contact google with proof of my work contact admins here and a few other sites too, etc all because some people didn't want to add a credit of where they found my charts.
so after a good week of emailing and chatting on the phone with google fraud control i decided to not continue posting my work, that may actually cause damage if used wrongly was too much work to deal with.
I'm still just too busy. my phone is stock android non rooted now because some apps I use can't be hidden.
so, I have no time to update this thread. I have no desire to leave the information for others to brick their devices.
the chart on dr.browns video is older than my most up to date chart, but still even that is months behind the current app and rom version changes.
my best advice is, if your phone works the way you want it, dont mess with any of the clock speeds. just undervolt some steps that are commonly used and test those.
too many people have tried to overclock their phones GPUs above 900 and lost functionality (permanently) or just hard bricked the phone (where an unbrick tool wont recover it.)
many will say its harmless, but its about usage. if you game alot and want to game alot, overclocking will create more heat, even if you undervolt. the result will be a paperweight.
those many people are not you, and not your phone. so anything can happen.
be mindful and careful of the settings you use. and install a temperature monitor for CPU and GPU.
going over 70'c will risk the loss of your unit.
Patrick Morgan said:
things just update faster than I have time to test.
my charts became old, even the one Dr.Brown is using on his video, its quite old missing voltage steps and have not been tested on the newer versions of Konabess.
my original thread here took about 3 months of my time testing every possible setting to make sure other users didnt brick or toast their devices.
I took everything down when I seen alot of new rom updates, and konabess updates were causing bugs in the settings I had here for many users.
I didn't have time to retest everything and update my charts, I also had to deal with people stealing my charts and claiming the work for them selves. which I had to open youtube reports, contact google with proof of my work contact admins here and a few other sites too, etc all because some people didn't want to add a credit of where they found my charts.
so after a good week of emailing and chatting on the phone with google fraud control i decided to not continue posting my work, that may actually cause damage if used wrongly was too much work to deal with.
I'm still just too busy. my phone is stock android non rooted now because some apps I use can't be hidden.
so, I have no time to update this thread. I have no desire to leave the information for others to brick their devices.
the chart on dr.browns video is older than my most up to date chart, but still even that is months behind the current app and rom version changes.
my best advice is, if your phone works the way you want it, dont mess with any of the clock speeds. just undervolt some steps that are commonly used and test those.
too many people have tried to overclock their phones GPUs above 900 and lost functionality (permanently) or just hard bricked the phone (where an unbrick tool wont recover it.)
many will say its harmless, but its about usage. if you game alot and want to game alot, overclocking will create more heat, even if you undervolt. the result will be a paperweight.
those many people are not you, and not your phone. so anything can happen.
be mindful and careful of the settings you use. and install a temperature monitor for CPU and GPU.
going over 70'c will risk the loss of your unit.
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Perfect understood Patrick, it's a shame all this happened, unfortunately people don't give value/recognition to people who help for free!
I'll enjoy and tell you my experience, my 9R is on OOS 11.2.6.6 (Stock) and with Kernel Stock as well (since there isn't much customization yet)
They ended up recommending the Dr. Brown video and I decided to do some tests, if the person copies the Overclock that he does in that video (905MHz) the device will not start, it will be necessary to flash the previous boot.img
This happened to me and I was able to reverse the situation (probably because the KERNEL does not support such clocks that would even be unnecessary)
But on his channel there is a more recent video teaching how to Underclock and so I took the clock's as a base and started to make my fine adjustments
Clocks follow this pattern; 512 - 490 - 455 - 445 - 305 - 295 - 195
Voltages as per your chart; SVS_L2 - SVS_L1 _ SVS_L0 - SVS_L0 - LOW_SVS - LOW_SVS - LOW_SVS
And the BUS frequencies I left original, so I found SWEET SPOT, the device is much cooler, stable, in games despite the Underclock holding well (80 FPS+ with graphics at maximum)
Hopefully there will soon be some app/kernel that can undervolt the CPU too, maybe just remove -25mv/-50mv and do some testing as most of the heat comes from it.
I'm quite satisfied and I'm grateful to you because without your charts in Dr. Brown's video, wouldn't know how to do!
I wish you all the best, success!
vinyimp said:
Perfect understood Patrick, it's a shame all this happened, unfortunately people don't give value/recognition to people who help for free!
I'll enjoy and tell you my experience, my 9R is on OOS 11.2.6.6 (Stock) and with Kernel Stock as well (since there isn't much customization yet)
They ended up recommending the Dr. Brown video and I decided to do some tests, if the person copies the Overclock that he does in that video (905MHz) the device will not start, it will be necessary to flash the previous boot.img
This happened to me and I was able to reverse the situation (probably because the KERNEL does not support such clocks that would even be unnecessary)
But on his channel there is a more recent video teaching how to Underclock and so I took the clock's as a base and started to make my fine adjustments
Clocks follow this pattern; 512 - 490 - 455 - 445 - 305 - 295 - 195
Voltages as per your chart; SVS_L2 - SVS_L1 _ SVS_L0 - SVS_L0 - LOW_SVS - LOW_SVS - LOW_SVS
And the BUS frequencies I left original, so I found SWEET SPOT, the device is much cooler, stable, in games despite the Underclock holding well (80 FPS+ with graphics at maximum)
Hopefully there will soon be some app/kernel that can undervolt the CPU too, maybe just remove -25mv/-50mv and do some testing as most of the heat comes from it.
I'm quite satisfied and I'm grateful to you because without your charts in Dr. Brown's video, wouldn't know how to do!
I wish you all the best, success!
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I recommend Overclocking by your self to higher freq.
This config from video don't boot on any sn865 devices even Apollo but I can overclock to 940 MHz stable.
I know that Poco F3 has lock freq to 683 MHz after that doesn't boot.
I think your UV is too high 512 can get as low as SVS_L1 or SVS_L0
astronomy2021 said:
I recommend Overclocking by your self to higher freq.
This config from video don't boot on any sn865 devices even Apollo but I can overclock to 940 MHz stable.
I know that Poco F3 has lock freq to 683 MHz after that doesn't boot.
I think your UV is too high 512 can get as low as SVS_L1 or SVS_L0
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Unfortunately on the OnePlus 9R (all stock) any clock higher than the original (670 MHz) the system doesn't boot (I don't know why, maybe some ROM limitation or KERNEL doesn't support it)
I ended up Underclocking to have a cooler device and in fact it is cooler without loss of performance in normal use and holding up well in games at maximum graphics
No artifacts, crashing or instability
As for the voltage on 512, it could really go with SVS_L1 - it goes between SVS_L2 and L1 on Patrick's Chart (525 - 512 - 490 MHz) I intend to do a test soon, for now it's stable and in games it doesn't get too hot!
vinyimp said:
Unfortunately on the OnePlus 9R (all stock) any clock higher than the original (670 MHz) the system doesn't boot (I don't know why, maybe some ROM limitation or KERNEL doesn't support it)
I ended up Underclocking to have a cooler device and in fact it is cooler without loss of performance in normal use and holding up well in games at maximum graphics
No artifacts, crashing or instability
As for the voltage on 512, it could really go with SVS_L1 - it goes between SVS_L2 and L1 on Patrick's Chart (525 - 512 - 490 MHz) I intend to do a test soon, for now it's stable and in games it doesn't get too hot!
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No it is lock by Qualcomm to that freq so of doesn't boot it like 855+/860.
That why I buy Mi 10T with 865 and can be overclock to even 2ghz by someone.
astronomy2021 said:
No it is lock by Qualcomm to that freq so of doesn't boot it like 855+/860.
That why I buy Mi 10T with 865 and can be overclock to even 2ghz by someone.
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Understood, a custom KERNEL doesn't unlock this lock by Qualcomm?
I had a OnePlus 8 with 865, today I just miss it
vinyimp said:
Understood, a custom KERNEL doesn't unlock this lock by Qualcomm?
I had a OnePlus 8 with 865, today I just miss it
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Maybe can by i case of 855+ was lock on all phones from manufacturer process.
But early builds of F3 has unlock freq but after that they are block that why buying 865 is better if you want performance for gaming or emulation like switch. I now play Zelda breath of the wild on my Mi 10 t and after 168days will be Overclocking to 940Mhz giving me performance of 888.