So I was on the fence about switching from my iPhone 6+ to the Note5 and when I tried it in the store, one feature sealed the deal. Amazingly, I haven't seen it mentioned in ANY review I've read or watched all over the web. Samsung should be focusing on this in their marketing efforts too. I'm referring to the one handed REDUCE SCREEN SIZE mode. With a simple triple tap of the home button, the entire screen shifts down into what is likely fully one hand operable by almost hand size. This is genius to me and a world more useful on a (let's face it) huge phone than Apple's stupid and awkward Reachability thing which just shifts the interface halfway down the screen.
Am I crazy for thinking this is such a big deal??
maybe because it's been around on a number of Androids for a while now. it's not really a new thing. it's one of the features i give iPhoners as a reason to switching over to larger-screened Androids since before the G2 and N3.
i just recently mentioned it here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3191803
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You are right and this is quite useful for me especially since I spend half of my commute to work in a crowded train where i can really use just one hand
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triple tap on home button doesnt work for me....
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Never having owned an iPhone till my company gave me a 6, i can understand why nixonx loves this.
The iPhone ui puts the back arrow waaaay in the upper left of the screen. What a completely dumb thing since they dont have a back button built in at the bottom like android does.
Yeah this is a good feature for using the phone while driving, to quickly reply to email or text. (Not recommended to use your phone while driving)
iPhone has same "feature" called reachability. Not new for either device.
S5 has a similar feature too (one handed mode)
Apple with their obsession to be retard-friendly, with 1 button on their smart devices and 1 button computer mouse...
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Never having owned an iPhone till my company gave me a 6, i can understand why nixonx loves this.
The iPhone ui puts the back arrow waaaay in the upper left of the screen. What a completely dumb thing since they dont have a back button built in at the bottom like android does.
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I agree, but I've since learnt that there's a left-swipe gesture you can use to go back on iOS which is pretty effective
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The note 4 also had a one handed mode where you can adjust screen size
I don't post often but this thread is just ridiculous. First off, the iPhone also has this feature called "Reachability" starting with the iPhone 6. It's not pressing the iPhones home button but rather "tapping" on the home button twice. This brings down the screen to use in one handed mode.
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I don't post often but this thread is just ridiculous. First off, the iPhone also has this feature called "Reachability" starting with the iPhone 6. It's not pressing the iPhones home button but rather "tapping" on the home button twice. This brings down the screen to use in one handed mode.
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i think most phablets have one handed mode thesedays anyway
Ya if your new to notes its pretty neat. Its been on the last couple notes though. U just got to it a different way but same concept
If ur use to half ass iphone concepts like the accesability feature when u double tap the home button it seems like this is a more realistic one handed feature
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iPhone has same "feature" called reachability. Not new for either device.
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I don't post often but this thread is just ridiculous. First off, the iPhone also has this feature called "Reachability" starting with the iPhone 6. It's not pressing the iPhones home button but rather "tapping" on the home button twice. This brings down the screen to use in one handed mode.
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As someone who switched from an iPhone 6+ (8 months with the device) to a Note 5, I can attest that Apple's 'Reachability' feature is a fairly half ass effort at improving one handed usability and no where near as useful as reducing the entire screen to thumb reachable. First of all, activating it is hit or miss experience that led me to rarely attempting it because the 'double light tap' needs to be done pretty perfectly for it to work the first time. From a usability standpoint, it doesn't bring things on the far side of the screen any closer to your thumb horizontally, it merely brings them lower, meaning you still have to reach to the far side. It was also not always predictable as to when it would jump the screen back up to normal mode and it always felt more like a bug than a feature and many reviewers felt the same about this.
As for it being available on the Note 4, I find the home button triple press to be a faster and 100% reliable activation method.
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As someone who switched from an iPhone 6+ (8 months with the device) to a Note 5, I can attest that Apple's 'Reachability' feature is a fairly half ass effort at improving one handed usability and no where near as useful as reducing the entire screen to thumb reachable. First of all, activating it is hit or miss experience that led me to rarely attempting it because the 'double light tap' needs to be done pretty perfectly for it to work the first time. From a usability standpoint, it doesn't bring things on the far side of the screen any closer to your thumb horizontally, it merely brings them lower, meaning you still have to reach to the far side. It was also not always predictable as to when it would jump the screen back up to normal mode and it always felt more like a bug than a feature and many reviewers felt the same about this.
As for it being available on the Note 4, I find the home button triple press to be a faster and 100% reliable activation method.
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I agree that it isn't like Sammy's implementation of reaching things, but there were some aspects of it that I did like, which mostly had to do with being able to add additional apps to utilise that open space, such as Carpe Diem and Reach App.
as far as not being able to reach the far corner, there was an app called MyReachability that brought the opposite corner closer to your thumb. it's kind of lousy though. and yeah, the light double-tapping to actually take was a bit annoying.
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i have used the feature a handful of times, but I think it should be slightly larger. The size that it shrinks down to feels even smaller than the iPhone 4's screen size.... I think it should be just ever so slightly larger.
I second that.
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I wanted to love the Evo, the specs are awesome, the screen is huge, web browsing is blazing fast, but the user experience just leaves something to be desired IMO. I hope these issues are resolved with future updates and/or Froyo and I may be back!
The main cuplits in my opinion: Touch screen lag, the unresponsive screen, the lack of 4G in my area (and still have to pay the $10 premium), the FPS cap issue, the jittery and stuttering pinch to zoom in browser. Hacking/rooting the phone is WAY too complicated and risky compared to the iphone jailbreaking
Minor gripes but still annoying: the lack of 'next' and 'previous' buttons in browser for filling in fields, landscape keyboard has no 'send' button in SMS app, landscape keyboard mode in general takes up the whole screen so you cant see where your typing without hitting back button, no way to turn off the 'text reflo' feature in brower...sometimes its more of a hassle than a benefit.
I have a few days left in the 30-day trial and have made the descision to take it back. If these issues are resolved, in which I hope the official Froyo will address these issues I will happily ditch the iphone and jump back on the andriod bandwagon.
Do it then, not like it's a life changing decision. If you come back, the forum is still here.
Ok..........
Could care less but the enter button on in works as send also you don't hit the back button u hit the keyboard button to hide the kb
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oh and duck Apple
Enjoy ATT.
Good luck.
A lot of people are going to post some hater remarks because you're going to the iPhone, but objectively I actually do understand where you are coming from. It's pretty angering to think that HTC delivered a gimped phone with major quality issues marketed as the best phone ever (and it could have been!).
Yes, most of this can be fixed via the community (thank God for that!) but it's still frustrating that it is happening. Hacking the phone to where HTC should have built it as voids the warranty and any kind of support. I think that's unacceptable. We waited months and stared at countless blogs reviewing early releases just salivating over the phone. Once it got here it was quite an awakening for some people. Thankfully because of XDA, we can say screw HTC and "fix it" ourselves.
A lot of your gripes are more with the Android OS, which I think is wonderful but understandably is not everyone's cup of tea.
I just played with a friends Iphone 4 and I have to say its a nice appliance. I can definitely see the draw.
If your already questioning your Evo decision, then do it.
Having said that, its not for me. Doesn't satisfy my inner geek...
and the point of this post was.......?
i mean if u wanna have a phone that u can only hold in ur right hand and pay more munny and have data limits..go ahead but dont post it on here like the iphone aint got probs either..every phone is gonna have its probs especially when they 1st come out
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I just played with a friends Iphone 4 and I have to say its a nice appliance. I can definitely see the draw.
If your already questioning your Evo decision, then do it.
Having said that, its not for me. Doesn't satisfy my inner geek...
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I agree completely. It's a nice phone but it doesn't have enough for my inner geek. Feels too dumbed down. Even jailbroken.
Haha you might want to wait until after they do the antenna recall.
What I mean is ALL phones with how they push them out nowadays will have issues.
Rooting is anything but difficult but if you can't do it then perhaps the Iphone is a good choice for you.
Fully agree with aridon..
If you aren't into getting the most you can out of your phone get a damn iphone!
I prefer choice, and i'm not a follower.. so android is for me.
That said most of your problems will be fixed with froyo and the rest (UI and aesthetics) will be fixed with gingerbread.
By the end of this year I fully expect these phones to rock
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LOL EVO'D_OUT is the username? lol s/he was a prophet.. the OP knew when s/he signed up that s/he would eventually return the evo! wow perhaps the OP can predict other things that will happen in the future...
Lol. I respect your opinion, although I'm not really sure the point of letting a bunch of evo loving people know. I for one am keeping my evo, well... because its the most bad ass phone I have ever had. Lol tootles.
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I wanted to love the Evo, the specs are awesome, the screen is huge, web browsing is blazing fast, but the user experience just leaves something to be desired IMO. I hope these issues are resolved with future updates and/or Froyo and I may be back!
The main cuplits in my opinion: Touch screen lag, the unresponsive screen, the lack of 4G in my area (and still have to pay the $10 premium), the FPS cap issue, the jittery and stuttering pinch to zoom in browser. Hacking/rooting the phone is WAY too complicated and risky compared to the iphone jailbreaking
Minor gripes but still annoying: the lack of 'next' and 'previous' buttons in browser for filling in fields, landscape keyboard has no 'send' button in SMS app, landscape keyboard mode in general takes up the whole screen so you cant see where your typing without hitting back button, no way to turn off the 'text reflo' feature in brower...sometimes its more of a hassle than a benefit.
I have a few days left in the 30-day trial and have made the descision to take it back. If these issues are resolved, in which I hope the official Froyo will address these issues I will happily ditch the iphone and jump back on the andriod bandwagon.
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ouch now u gotta get att's new data plans yikes
Nop way I go back to iphone..and I had all off them..android rules..and yes I'm fully rooted...lol .
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Rooting is super easy if you can just follow the instructions.
Having owned the 3g and 3gs and now the evo... along with a ton of other htc's I can tell you the number one reason people dont stick with these phones after the switch... too complex. No thing to me as i've been tinkering and flashing since the vogue but some folks just like the empty interface/pages of apps because its simple.
Who do i have to bl*w in HTC in order to get on screen buttons? Why do HTC refuses to implement onscreen buttons on their phones? they're so practical, they (and we) can remap them to their/our liking , and now they made the horrible decision to cut the multitasking button for good? because supposedly people dont use it? really HTC? you're stripping android of one of its best features? easy and almost instant switching between apps ? whatever people say, having to wait 2 more seconds to hold the back button to get multitask really makes an annoying difference
Multitasking is just a double tap away man!
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Why not go with on-screen buttons? So you can have a 1920x1080 screen instead of losing 200 pixels or so on one side.
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Why not go with on-screen buttons? So you can have a 1920x1080 screen instead of losing 200 pixels or so on one side.
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It's all in the flavor of the designer. I myself prefer this layout over android's on screen button.
And I must say if the HTC One had the on screen but I would have gone with Xperia ZL and never leaped to HTC One.
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It's all in the flavor of the designer. I myself prefer this layout over android's on screen button.
And I must say if the HTC One had the on screen but I would have gone with Xperia ZL and never leaped to HTC One.
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TBH I prefer physical capacitive buttons over pure software buttons. There are pro and contra for both of them - in the end it's a matter of taste - you get used to both of them.
What I really don't like are physical buttons like the home button on the Galaxy Line. They need to be implemented perfectly, like on the iPhone or they are a major nuisance.
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It's all in the flavor of the designer. I myself prefer this layout over android's on screen button.
And I must say if the HTC One had the on screen but I would have gone with Xperia ZL and never leaped to HTC One.
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+1. I get to use gestures from bottom edge of the screen using apps if I have no software keys.
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Why not go with on-screen buttons? So you can have a 1920x1080 screen instead of losing 200 pixels or so on one side.
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Hi for example Xperia Z got on screen button and 5" screen but 3-4 mm, onscreen button taking space unnecessary so practically 4.7" in HTC one screen screen got same usable screen area as 5" of Xperia Z, I got S3 atm and when I install custom rom which enable on screen button and than I realise that on screen button is waste of precious screen size, for better information see using compare tools side-by side and you will see almost there is not much advantage of 5" screen because of onscreen button wasting space and look like .3" screen look like black strip at bottom, I would also like to see if anyone can compare actual usable screen area of Z vs ONE and post here please
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I don't like the on screen software buttons, in many apps they remain visible ie: games... bit irritating.
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I don't like the on screen software buttons, in many apps they remain visible ie: games... bit irritating.
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Yepp That's very annoying. Especially during games. :silly:
On screen buttons would be an immediate deal breaker for me. The Nexus 4 will be the last phone I ever buy with on screen buttons. I hate it, with a passion.
Thank you HTC for NOT using on-screen buttons.
To solve this losing work space complain, they could make made a phone with 5" screen like the butterfly and still get 4.8" real state .
OK some of you don't like on screen buttons but are you actually saying you prefer to not have a multitasking button ?
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There is a multitask button my friend, you just double tap the home button and you get a slicker cleaner multitasking UI.
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No issue with multitasking. My real issue is how would we deal with games or apps that utilizes full screen window and requires the menu button. I don't think that 3dot menu would be available on games
And the survey says.... It's clear that a small teeny tiny group of people actually feel like those on screen buttons that clearly take up real estate are some how cool or useful lol, low the person who started this forum Ctfu... Good day everyone
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AW: HTC keeps effing up with the button layout, why not go with on screen buttons?
I couldn't care less about the missing button. All of the functionality is there. 1 day and you used to it. And from what i have seen, the double tap is extremely responsive.
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One reason I like capacitive buttons a lot is the posibility to use S2W.
When I have the phone on the table I use this all of the time with HOX+
No posibility to do this with on screen buttons.
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No issue with multitasking. My real issue is how would we deal with games or apps that utilizes full screen window and requires the menu button. I don't think that 3dot menu would be available on games
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For the last time: you can DISABLE THIS BAR by enabling long-press back for menu on the One.
I would much rather have a three button layout (the third one being a dedicated menu button), but this two button layout isn't preventing me from buying it in anyway.
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I would much rather have a three button layout (the third one being a dedicated menu button), but this two button layout isn't preventing me from buying it in anyway.
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I don't think it will take more than a day to get used to it!
I really want to like the HTC one for its design, screen and sound quality. But I just can't fathom the placement of the power button. It just makes no sense on such a tall phone. HTC is the ONLY manufacturer that places the power button on the top of such large devices. This fact alone should have been noticed by HTC.
Ya there is the volume wake mod but you still have to lock the device and using a widget for it is not a good solution. The power button is the single most used thing on a smartphone so to have it in such an awkward place is such a compromise that one really shouldn't have to make. This isn't a technical limitation or anything but just a poor decision by HTC. I hope they release a refresh version of the one with a side power button, the device would be nearly perfect then.
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I really doubt they'll release a refresh with that change. It's just a power button in the end
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What is this "htc"of which you speak? Is it some new device made by Samsung?
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It's because the power button acts as an IR.
It had to be there. If it was on the side, you would have to use your phone in portrait mode nonstop when controlling the TV.
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It's because the power button acts as an IR.
It had to be there. If it was on the side, you would have to use your phone in portrait mode nonstop when controlling the TV.
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Or they could've did what samsung did with the GS IV.
It has never bothered me, and to be honest I prefer it to how it was on my Note 2.
Because my Note 2 was in a case, which meant that I had to push the buttons harder, I couldn't push the power button without accidentally activating the volume buttons and vice versa. It got to be very annoying.
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Not an issue with me... My current phone has it's power button in the same location as HTC One.
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It seems to be counter intuitive especially when compared to a power button on the side. You have to re position your grip to reach the top of the device which adds the possibility of dropping your device.
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I hate the side power button personally, as it is very easy to hit it mistakenly, such as when you hand your phone to somebody else, and a top power button always felt more ergonomic to me. The side power button also made the phone wake up in my pocket.
However, they should definitely stick to one side for the power button, and not switch it around like the One X, One and Butterfly.
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I've gotten used to the power button being on the side after owning two Galaxy devices. I previously used two HTC devices with the power button on the top left just like the One, however, I prefer the side layout. It's much easier to power on the phone and turn the screen on/off.
The power button is the single most used thing on a smartphone
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I disagree. I use it when I pick up the phone and then again when I put it down or into my pocket. In both instances I find it easy to just hit the button wherever it is. I'I'm currently using an iphone and an Asus tablet both of which have the button in more or less the same place. I'm more concerned about one-handedly hitting the back button and home button (which I bet gets used a whole lot more than the power button).
The power button sure is pressed often. But on the One, its kinda easy to reach. Tho I would've preferred it to be on the right side, like the Nexus 4 has. The IR sensor could've been a seperate module on the top, would've looked great as well.
The One is pretty "long" in terms of build and design, therefore, people with smaller hands will have a tough time reaching the power button with only one hand available. I can manage it barely, even tho I have pretty big hands....
Somebody mentioned vol wake. Venom Rom has vol wake and vol lock - its what I've used for the past 6 month due to a broken power button. So if venom Rom cones here problem solved. Not sure if it is though.....
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Hmm. I guess I'm in the minority then. I always, always use two hands to hold my phone, since my hands are too small to just use one. I've never thought twice about where the power button is because I have to shift my grip regardless.
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I'm left handed and I am stoked about the placement of the power button.
Really really dont like power on side of device.
Not really a big deal if you ask me... Unless of course you only have 1 hand? If my other hand is busy I'm pretty sure my pointer finger could reach it. I don't have any difficulties reaching the top left power button of my current phone. And the HTC One is just .5 or .6 inches higher than my current phone.
Maybe I'll practice whacking myself in the forehead with the top of the phone.
Problem solved...
Vol wake is available on trick droid
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I must admit, I preferred it on the side like my Galaxy Nexus. But as someone else said, handing your phone to someone else (such as scanning it as a boarding pass in the airport) meant half the time they'd turn it off again, and the placement on the One should avoid this. I daresay I'll get used to it in time as well.
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It seems to be counter intuitive especially when compared to a power button on the side. You have to re position your grip to reach the top of the device which adds the possibility of dropping your device.
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Seriously, your p*ssed about having to re position your grip lol ?
Surely a two second hand movement isn't that much of a pain ?
OK so at first this seemed like maybe a bit of a joke but then I thought actually some people if not used to the power button placement on the 'One' might actually find this useful.
To all others I mean no offense, nor am I teaching you to suck eggs.
(All pics taken with my old DHD and my shaky left hand, hence some blur!)
This is a simple guide showing how to unlock your HTC One with one hand
(Note, I have used my right hand as I am right handed. I shall attempt left hand at a later date if requested)
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1. This image shows my standard grip/hold of the phone and it sets up all other actions.
2. Slide/Move forefinger to rest on the Power button
3. Press Power button firmly! (Yes that's my daughter - and now I can catch her thanks to Zoe )
4. Slide/Move forefinger back to original resting position behind phone.
5. Move thumb to sliding screen lock.
(Although you can see my initial grip has moved you'll find that your hand will naturally move as your position your thumb)
6. Press and slide the lock upwards and then move your thumb back to original grip.
(Your hand will return to where it was previously, you'll find that you end up doing the unlock and re-position in one fluid movement)
Now you're good to go and you still haven't had to remove your left hand from your pants yet! WIN!
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Thumb exercises! This is how I hold my Xperia S too.
If its come to the point to where we need to hand feed people on how to unlock their phone with one hand, how are we supposed to trust them in rooting their phone?
Gotta admit I do have a point
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If its come to the point to where we need to hand feed people on how to unlock their phone with one hand, how are we supposed to trust them in rooting their phone?
Gotta admit I do have a point
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Very true however these forums aren't just for people who wish to root their devices. I'd just noticed a few mentions about the power button placement and how awkward etc it is so wanted to share how it can be done very simply. Of course to most this may seem stupid but to the odd few perhaps might show them where they're going wrong.
Wtf.
Lmao this is stupid. Can you make one to show us how to charge the phone with one hand?
I think there is some good info there, I was having a lot of trouble pressing the power button and even dropped the phone while trying to do so. I guess it was my own fault for trying to operate the phone with my feet.
Now that I see you can use your hand I feel very stupid!
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Lmao this is stupid. Can you make one to show us how to charge the phone with one hand?
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Maybe though I think you may need to also use a charger and maybe ever plug socket to charge your phone.....but don't quote me on that.
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goulies said:
I think there is some good info there, I was having a lot of trouble pressing the power button and even dropped the phone while trying to do so. I guess it was my own fault for trying to operate the phone with my feet.
Now that I see you can use your hand I feel very stupid!
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If you saw a thread about the button placement you'll see a bunch of people saying how they found it awkward. Might seem dumb to you but maybe that's just because you're a rocket scientist? Oh no wait.....
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I'm sure your right about that thread, the title of it was enough to keep me away from it.
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I'm sure your right about that thread, the title of it was enough to keep me away from it.
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I have an idea!
Thread title changed!!
Also remember that unlike previous HTC phone the One can be unlocked by swiping upwards any of the following keys
Phone, text, browser, camera
(Keys that are adjacent to the lock key)
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Now how about a guide for folks who hold their phones in the other hand?
yup its actually harder if on the right side like the One X
hamdir said:
yup its actually harder if on the right side like the One X
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Yeh I can imagine. For me it being on the top left is perfect! Works nicely for browsing sky channels as well lol!
Hmm, been thinkin´bout launching a kickstarter project to create a lever-thingy-device that attach to the side of the One with a lever and linkage. If you press the lever on the side it will by the means of a clever linkage transform the pushing force up onto the top of the device where it actually pushes the real power button.
Would you like to kick in ...say 20 bucks for this? I´ll start cadcamming and create a mockup at once
Tuborg68 said:
Hmm, been thinkin´bout launching a kickstarter project to create a lever-thingy-device that attach to the side of the One with a lever and linkage. If you press the lever on the side it will by the means of a clever linkage transform the pushing force up onto the top of the device where it actually pushes the real power button.
Would you like to kick in ...say 20 bucks for this? I´ll start cadcamming and create a mockup at once
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Lol, nah you're alright....If I wanted to design anything random like that I'd just do it myself
+1 for this thread!
Just tough luck for the left-handers like myself...
Seriously though, when I got got my HTC Butterfly (still waiting for my preorder of the HTC One here is Australia) which is also a larger device, I found I pull the phone out of my left pocket, press the power button with my left index finger, then swipe to unlock with my right hand... If I had to I could somewhat perform the method described in the OP, which I found quite awkward and having to shuffle my grip with danger of the phone slipping.
Shall be interesting with the One (if the damned thing ever arrives...)
Its nice guide BTW for disable or one hand people, Thank to god who gave me two usable hand and less laziness, I will dafinately use this guide after I cross 65 and retain my HTC one in one piece till than
Send from my S3 (HTC one goes for replacement)
Forget the BlackBerry. There will be an Indiegogo Campaign for a Moto Z slider keyboard. The best form factor including Ctrl and Tab https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-slider-mod-for-moto-z/coming_soon
Finally!
Update (03.03.2017):
The campaign is going to start today at 12:00 noon UK time. (GMT +0).
It will cost 60 USD for Super Early Birds and the regular price after Indiegogo will be 120 USD. The keyboard will be flippable as well.
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interesting
HibikiTaisuna said:
Forget the BlackBerry. There will be an Indiegogo Campaign for a Moto Z slider keyboard. The best form factor including Ctrl and Tab https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-slider-mod-for-moto-z/coming_soon
Finally!
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That would be a killer!!!
Oh yes! I knew I bought this phone for a reason
This is going to be interesting. I was hoping for something like this when I bought the phone. I am just wondering if it is better for the keyboard to slide from the side or just from the bottom like in the BB Priv.
ponde said:
This is going to be interesting. I was hoping for something like this when I bought the phone. I am just wondering if it is better for the keyboard to slide from the side or just from the bottom like in the BB Priv.
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IMHO it is much more useful from the side. A vertical slider doesn't make much sense as you already have much vertical space on your display to read a message history f.e.. As soon as you hold your phone horizontally more than half of the display is blocked by the keyboard and on many phones you can't even browse your past messages without closing the keyboard. With a physical horizontal keyboard you can still read mails and/or messages - thinking of split screen with mail on one side and Signal, Threema or Google Search on the other - and type in each app by selecting it.
Landscape sliders can be incredibly useful, especially when they tilt. This one doesn't tilt yet, but the devs said they'd consider it. Once you add tilt to the mix, the keyboard becomes a media stand for netflixing et al, a insanely good ereader (lock the reader app in portrait, hold the phone like a book with your thumb over the arrow keys and use them to turn pages), and of course, more ergonomic for normal typing use and less annoying in re: glare. Having multitasking now, as hibiki mentions, is all the more reason for one. I hope this one turns out great. I do wish they'd offset the keys as the best of the last generation of landscape sliders did (HTC touch pros and droids) rather than just a grid like that, but if it tilts, I'll overlook that.
Also, what's good for any QWERTY enthusiasts is probably good for them all. If this one sells well, you can bet other form factors, including the treo/BB style portrait boards, will eventually be made as well. The first thing I thought of when I saw the Moto Z for the first time was a keyboard renaissance.
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Landscape sliders can be incredibly useful, especially when they tilt. This one doesn't tilt yet, but the devs said they'd consider it. Once you add tilt to the mix, the keyboard becomes a media stand for netflixing et al, a insanely good ereader (lock the reader app in portrait, hold the phone like a book with your thumb over the arrow keys and use them to turn pages), and of course, more ergonomic for normal typing use and less annoying in re: glare. Having multitasking now, as hibiki mentions, is all the more reason for one. I hope this one turns out great. I do wish they'd offset the keys as the best of the last generation of landscape sliders did (HTC touch pros and droids) rather than just a grid like that, but if it tilts, I'll overlook that.
Also, what's good for any QWERTY enthusiasts is probably good for them all. If this one sells well, you can bet other form factors, including the treo/BB style portrait boards, will eventually be made as well. The first thing I thought of when I saw the Moto Z for the first time was a keyboard renaissance.
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Just posting to completely agree with this. I have zero interest in a portrait physical keyboard, but always liked landscape sliders.
While this maybe a nice idea, am I the only one that notices the fatal flaw... there is no way of ever using the camera while the keyboard is in the retracted mode. The only way would be, to have to pull out the keyboard to allow the lens to be exposed.
Jimi Mack said:
While this maybe a nice idea, am I the only one that notices the fatal flaw... there is no way of ever using the camera while the keyboard is in the retracted mode. The only way would be, to have to pull out the keyboard to allow the lens to be exposed.
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Opening the keyboard doesn't feel like much of a chore for me, and it's not like the keyboard has to be attached at all times. If lots of pictures need to be taken for a while, toss the mod for a few hours. Fatal flaw? Different strokes I guess.
There's someone floating an eink mod right now with a short screen so as to not cover the lens. Personally I'd just as soon have it cover the camera and be a decent sized-screen.
The campaign is going to start today at 12:00 noon UK time. (GMT +0).
It will cost 60 USD for Super Early Birds and the regular price after Indiegogo will be 120 USD. The keyboard will be flippable as well.
will it fit on Moto Z Play? I think so...
klofisch said:
will it fit on Moto Z Play? I think so...
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It would be surprising if not, as it is a Moto Z line compatible Mod.
Dann schauen wir mal.....
The campaign looks promising. The keyboards checks all boxes for me. Tiltable, backlit and horizontal slider. I wish I could afford the special edition though. That cyan looks really smexy
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/physical-keyboard-mod-for-moto-z/x/16122878#/
It's live now. Thank you for all the support!
I backed it. They added tilt and I'm over the moon. I haven't seen a keyboard this good since 2010.
Backed it! Finally, a good 5 row slider keyboard for a high end phone! This project must succeed, spread the word!
I'm gonna support it. I already bought two. Ive been wanting a new phone w/ a physical keyboard for so long. My last phone before this one was the Droid 4
I voted to buy but only for the camera hole version.
I have my favorite keyboard....
Edit, I would be on fence til I demo'ed it.
My KB is the Bomb!
Editing features as good as these would be a must
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71059858&postcount=1