Screen replaced--looks matte finish - Xperia Z3 Compact General

My display was replaced by Sony as soft-keys weren't working. Also they upgraded to v5.1.1 Lollipop.
But the new replacement display doesnt look like ORIGINAL ones which I had prior to replacement.This new one looks Matte finish type while the one I had originally was Glossy.
Or either the new display is not of a Z3 but of other compact phones like Z1 compact etc. Can this happen??
I can easily make it out as the regular HD wallpapers which I applied on old and new display looks different on same brightness settings.
Or is it so that the new display batch is improved etc. Or is it just that lollipop 5.1.1 displays graphics in this way???
I'm feeling pissed off!!!
Update*****The wallpapers have a pinkish tint on them.
In fact if I apply same wallpaper and take screenshot it appears differently than on previous display. So now its not just the display issue, seems somethings wrong internally. Coz a screenshot should come natural as it has nothing to do what colors the display produces right???
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See the difference between these two images. The overall face, cheeks and neck bones & overall body, leaves and tree branches etc.all got browny or pinkish tint which isnt natural looking.In old display the image is represented as is ORIGINALLYin colors generation which looks a natural human body tone and also other background factors.

the z1 compact screen is smaller so its not that. Is it at all possible you can take a picture of the screen?
Did you have xreality engine off on the other phone? It might be on here. FYI: my screen didnt change its look when i upgraded to 5.1.1
For all you know you scored a screen from the Z5 compact seeing as the z3 compact is discontinued

`Ghost` said:
the z1 compact screen is smaller so its not that. Is it at all possible you can take a picture of the screen?
Did you have xreality engine off on the other phone? It might be on here. FYI: my screen didnt change its look when i upgraded to 5.1.1
For all you know you scored a screen from the Z5 compact seeing as the z3 compact is discontinued
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Are you crazy?? Dude Z5 isnt in the world as of yet and Z3compact is just not even a year old and you talking about such crap.
I need a valid or at least meaningful explanation.

It was only one carrier in the US who discontinued the z3 compact. It's still the latest available compact device from Sony world wide...
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Are you sure there's no screen protector on it? XD and is the display better or worse? If it's better, then why complain?
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Sadman Khan said:
Are you sure there's no screen protector on it? XD and is the display better or worse? If it's better, then why complain?
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I removed screen protector and it really doesnt look that good as was before.
Wanna know if lollipop is causing this issue coz read somewhere in changelog that lollipop did some gui enhancements as well.

The difference not comes from lollipop. I also change my screen before 2 or 3 months and it's not the same as the original. It is more like amoled now(more hot colors).

friz said:
The difference not comes from lollipop. I also change my screen before 2 or 3 months and it's not the same as the original. It is more like amoled now(more hot colors).
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Is it so?? Then why cant Sony put the same old screen.
This amoled seems sacrifices on color quality.
Means tomorrow even phones battery or others part will be replaced by subsequent alternate option rather than the original factory fitted ones????

Lol they didn't put an amoled screen on it.

I doubt that they used amoled
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For a replaced display screen can there be minor color difference??

nri_tech1183 said:
My display was replaced by Sony as soft-keys weren't working. Also they upgraded to v5.1.1 Lollipop.
But the new replacement display doesnt look like ORIGINAL ones which I had prior to replacement.This new one looks Matte finish type while the one I had originally was Glossy.
Or either the new display is not of a Z3 but of other compact phones like Z1 compact etc. Can this happen??
I can easily make it out as the regular HD wallpapers which I applied on old and new display looks different on same brightness settings.
Or is it so that the new display batch is improved etc. Or is it just that lollipop 5.1.1 displays graphics in this way???
I'm feeling pissed off!!!
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This is BS, only the Z3 compact screen fits the Z3 compact connector and frame which is an LCD screen with a glossy finish. AMOLED is a proprietary technology from Samsung and Sony never used OLED nor AMOLED displays on any smartphone.
If you had your display replaced at a dubious shop then it could be that they used a counterfeit display which could have much more variations vs. the OEM one but not for a warranty repair obviously.
Now it can be that your display has a slightly different brightness or color temperature vs. your old display which is totally normal. If it has a matte finish it is that you did not remove the screen protector or left one on the screen.

I am not saying the display that they put on my phone is amoled it has colors like amoled that I didn't like.

I'm curious can you post a picture?

I think there's just a difference in your white balance. And it just seems a little warner now. I wish my white balance was warmer
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no screen replacement
I had a screen issue also, but Sony replaced the whole phone with a new one. They said that changing the screen couldn't guarantee the waterproof.

friz said:
I am not saying the display that they put on my phone is amoled it has colors like amoled that I didn't like.
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As amoled is a better quality display you do not have either an amoled display or a display that looks like amoled.
Current amoled is much better quality, Check Wikipedia for a list of high end flagship that use it. The Nokia N808 used a 3 year old super amoled that is better than anything on the market even today.
So you can get that idea out of your head. I would pay a lot extra for a super amoled screen I my Z3C.
My GF has a Z1C which is 0.3" smaller but the screen looks like you say in comparison to the Z3C.
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This is BS, only the Z3 compact screen fits the Z3 compact connector and frame which is an LCD screen with a glossy finish. AMOLED is a proprietary technology from Samsung and Sony never used OLED nor AMOLED displays on any .
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Nokia were the first with amoled displays so I highly doubt it is Samsung proprietary technology, and their displays were consistently better than any other manufacturer.
The dodgy repairer sounds like a very possible option. I had something similar in SE Asia from Sony Thailand - complete BS "repair", luckily I put it in a glass of water in front of the Sony store manager so when it leaked water and died he could say absolutely nothing and had to give me a refund, well the fact I made a song and dance and a customer about to buy a large new tv walked out really did it. (I bought my current z3C in the US)
nri_tech1183 said:
See the difference between these two images.[/B] The overall face, cheeks and neck bones & overall body, leaves and tree branches etc.all got browny or pinkish tint which isnt natural looking.In old display the image is represented as is ORIGINALLYin colors generation which looks a natural human body tone and also other background factors.
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It was brought up but you didn't answer: you do know you can change settings under display don't you? Is x-reality turned on? Have you adjusted the white balance?
5.1.1 does not change the look of the screen.

SymbianRefugee said:
It was brought up but you didn't answer: you do know you can change settings under display don't you? Is x-reality turned on? Have you adjusted the white balance?
5.1.1 does not change the look of the screen.
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Well I never used any of those features like x-reality and super-vivid as Image enhancement was always set off by me.
And those reference screenshots as well didnt had x-reality or vivid turned on.
In fact I never saw any difference eve on my screen even if I turn on x-reality or super-vivid.

A screenshot will not show screen differences, it'll just show the screen on the device I use to view it I.e. My phone or my laptop for me, your phone or whatever for you. So the screen shots are useless. If you don't believe me go and look at the screenshot on your computer.
If yo cannot see the difference with x-reality on maybe that is where you trouble lays? Your eyes.
sorry to be rude but There is a vast difference with these options turned on or off.
So once again, still trying to help you, go and turn these settings on, and then check and modify your white balance - do these fix your problem?

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A screenshot will not show screen differences, it'll just show the screen on the device I use to view it I.e. My phone or my laptop for me, your phone or whatever for you. So the screen shots are useless. If you don't believe me go and look at the screenshot on your computer.
If yo cannot see the difference with x-reality on maybe that is where you trouble lays? Your eyes.
sorry to be rude but There is a vast difference with these options turned on or off.
So once again, still trying to help you, go and turn these settings on, and then check and modify your white balance - do these fix your problem?
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The screenshots are taken internally with the inbuilt screenshot capture utility and not by another phone by hovering onto my device. Did you got that??

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Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [DISAPPOINTING!!!!! [UPDATED 18/02]

BIG-UPDATE
xda member Xifil spoke to a Sony Rep from London who put him in touch with a Sony Rep in Belguim or Sweden or somwhere cant remember then name but he knew more about the technology in the phone, and confirmed what i feared
xiFIL call to Sony Rep @ approx 20:30 18/02/2012
xiFIL: HI, its ******* from VODAFONE, i wanted to ask with regards to the technologies in the screen, we can be real with each other, i work for vodafone, work for a carrier, your Sony Rep referred me to you, how do you find the screen, how do you find the quality, do you believe the screen is up to par,
SONY REP: I'm going to be honest here, if you are someone who is an average user then the screen so much wouldn't matter much to you
but if it was me i would not buy the screen, there was no way for SONY to make a really slim device without putting an E-IPS cheaper screen in,
and because we know that everyone will not be happy with the screen, so we added the waterproof feature to subsidize for it.
xiFIL: The Dev unit had a really good screen though, it was good quality but several other devices i have tested were rubbish....?
SONY REP: The DEV units were made in Japan and came directly from there, and different to the production units, it is a variant of the Japanese variant without the branding, and all the developer tools,
The above conversation is not word for word but along those lines
SONY actually realized the xperia Z was not up to par, they still went ahead with the Z being rubbish, this is first hand news from a SONY REP WHO ADMITTED THEY HAVE NOT MADE A SCREEN UPTO PAR with current devices and gave it waterproofing to make up for the screen being rubbish, face it not one of us would have bought it with a inferior screen if it does not have the IP ratings!
Believe it if you want or stay in denial, but you will see after launch, the Japs seem to have got a better variant but we have been had off!
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kyogiro said:
Both, poor contrast and washed out colors. It is the unit that being demoed at the Paris Sony Store.
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shem2409 said:
I was better but still not perfect. The screen just lacks vibrancy, it appears kinda dull. I mean it is beautiful when you view images and videos, but when you compare it to any other device you feel like there is something missing in presentation of colors. As I said before, though the blacks are deep and I don't think that there is any problems with the viewing angles. The screen appears very reflective, but the one I looked at lacked the screen protector supplied with the phone (which maybe corrects that a little bit)
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kyogiro said:
I got the same impression when testing the device for 30 minutes. Te difference, screen wise, is stunning when I was running YouTube (for some reason or maybe it's normal, the bravia engine didn't kick in) or playing the installed game, Temple Run 2.
What is even more troublesome is the fact that the problem is not officially recognized by Sony, so it's highly possible that some of the customers will end up with the bad unit. While I was told the test models were demo ones, I got very worried reading the Gsmarena review because they specifically requested another unit after their first XZ's preview and getting, surprisingly a bad screen.
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I have some bad news, There is a reason why the Sony store devices had a washed out device,
I just spoke to XDA member xiFIL, and my worst fears have come true, his Vodafone store received batches of the Z today in preparation for launch, These were final units not dev units, the boxes had IMEI numbers on it and serial numbers etc, they took out a few devices where the boxes got damaged in transit and tested them to make sure they work as well as testing the whole batch for quality control.
His Dev unit was special and it had a really good screen like the Docomo units BUT
The screens on the final units received at his store today look washed out like the demo units, to top this off he checked several devices in case it was just one device that had a faulty screen AND all of them looked like the demo units with washed out colours exactly as described in the paris sony store and by shem2409, there is no production unit and demo unit theory, why would SONY put rubbish screens in the demo and then better ones in the actual product, no there was no cost saving, the JAPS just gave themselves a better screen than the rest of the world, THIS IS IT!, this is what you will get nothing else, all hope was lost today and i am probably going to cancel my Pre-order,
There is no trolling, there is no hating on the device, it is the simple truth, Sony just put a 2012 screen on a 2013 device,
So many people have seen the live units at phones 4 u, at a sony store and all agree with the above.
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One question posed was whether the Sony Xperia Z uses an IPS screen or not due to so much negativity regarding pre-production models being washed out with poor viewing angles.
It did state it in the Sony blog last year they were going to use JDI who manufacture IPS screens and also remove a layer of air between the screen and glass.
It appears Sony may have lived up to its claim and the Screen looks brilliant with good viewing angles!
After carefully analyzing the videos very closely, i see the display does not wash out at like the demo units do and the viewing angles and color seem to be on par with the S3 or One X
more videos below!
I have seen two demo units in two different retail stores and have to say the videos below are definitely better.
please watch video on youtube full screen in HD mode on a big screen and see for yourself,
XDA User Shem2409 went to the Sony Center today and took a short video in which he demoed the screen viewing angles, brightness and color as best as possible.
Here is his video:
to thank him directly click his post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38031308&postcount=342
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here are is the Japanese live model video so now stop slating and trolling the phone after reading sh!tty preview demo reviews and wait for the real thing to come out!
Also if you watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lgsYDXmdVzc#t=130s
forward to 2 minutes and 10 seconds, while the phone is booting up, the screen dims a little and all of a sudden it gives better black levels at 2:17
video is also here if you manually forward
Apparently this is the calibration tool which will be provided on the Z to calibrate our own display colour
A Sony representative also claimed the pre-production/DEMO/beta models were made using cheap materials and also the screen was glued by hand and not set properly as the production models, simply because they wanted the devices to be ready for CES 2013 and due to the amount of demo units they wanted to send out asap and that the production models would be better.
So now if you wanna be gangster and look at your phone sideways, you can!
I will give a full review of the screen and phone once i get my phone on the 28th
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I believe it is not an IPS display.
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DdcCabuslay said:
I believe it is not an IPS display.
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That is what i thought but then i saw this
We previously reported on the fact that at least one of Sony Mobile’s upcoming 2013 flagship is likely to feature a 5-inch (1920 x 1080) display with an impressive 443 PPI. The display will be developed by Japan Display Inc (JDI) and the press release published in early October suggested it would be a TFT-LCD IPS display in RGB configuration.
on this
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/10/2...0p-display-may-feature-whitemagic-technology/
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no it doesnt
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36943663&posted=1#post36943663
xl VipeR lx said:
Does anyone know wether the Z features an IPS screen or not. It did state it in the sony blog last year.
Also how does one feel about the viewing angles? and its negative publicity at the moment?
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I remember reading somewere (watched so many xperia Z videos i lost track ) that the xperia Z is actually IPS and that the demo units were TFT screens and that, but this hasn't been confirmed, nor does it seem to be true as no sony representatives have mentioned it, not unlikely though
Oh dear lord how many times do we have to say it.
The Xperia Z DOES HAVE AN IPS DISPLAY. NOT ALL IPS DISPLAYS HAVE THE SAME VIEWING ANGLES.
Also, IPS is still TFT. It is an IPS TFT LCD. The display you're thinking of with the really bad viewing angles that change colours under an angle are TN TFT LCD's. Have a look here for more about that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36852469&postcount=100
The Xperia Z uses this display: http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2012/20121004.html
Well as of whatever i havve seen on youtube..The only problem with the display is the viewing angles...The screen looks washed out..Otherwise using it straight [which is 90% of the time] its a great screen. Just coz of the TFT nature it has this problem and IPS does not solve it.
Ambroos said:
Oh dear lord how many times do we have to say it.
The Xperia Z DOES HAVE AN IPS DISPLAY. NOT ALL IPS DISPLAYS HAVE THE SAME VIEWING ANGLES.
Also, IPS is still TFT. It is an IPS TFT LCD. The display you're thinking of with the really bad viewing angles that change colours under an angle are TN TFT LCD's. Have a look here for more about that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36852469&postcount=100
The Xperia Z uses this display: http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2012/20121004.html
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Good point, in any case if the viewing angles/colours are washed out then they included a screen colour colaborator so there is no need to root it, instead you can do it straight from the device.
The IPS doesnt help it in viewing angles though..it looks washed out!
Who cares, I look at my phone straight on, why would you want to look at your phone on a slant, are you a *gangsta* ?
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techguyone said:
Who cares, I look at my phone straight on, why would you want to look at your phone on a slant, are you a *gangsta* ?
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Ye br0 I haz Da [email protected] dog
Lmfao i jk but I do agree with you. I never saw a reason for viewing angles since 90% of the time you look at the phone straight on.
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Display video comparison - Xperia Z vs Galaxy S3
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Superior Auto and Exmor RS for mobile work together so you can capture the best possible photos in all light conditions with Xperia Z.
The display isn't washed out on a side angle. All the display rumors are false and they might just be propaganda of other OEM companies.
Take a look at this images(not intended for display comparison) if you see any washed out displays on them.
The ones you see with bad displays were taken by smartass photographers which were paid by other companies to destroy the image of Xperia Z/ZL. Come on guys I know you're all smarter than this
i worry the lifetime
Ambroos said:
Oh dear lord how many times do we have to say it.
The Xperia Z DOES HAVE AN IPS DISPLAY. NOT ALL IPS DISPLAYS HAVE THE SAME VIEWING ANGLES.
Also, IPS is still TFT. It is an IPS TFT LCD. The display you're thinking of with the really bad viewing angles that change colours under an angle are TN TFT LCD's. Have a look here for more about that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36852469&postcount=100
The Xperia Z uses this display: http://www.j-display.com/english/news/2012/20121004.html
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yup, i don't worry about TFT or IPS TFT... i only worry about the lifetime of Full HD displays... to high PPI
i think the screen is very impressive, and i want it at dayone!!!
Washed out screen
One problem i do have with the device though, is its washed out colours, it just looks seriously washed out, i mean wtf, i hope the screen calaborator can be of good use, because for a 1080p phone with that kind of PPI, its a disappointment, it shall still be getting bought mind you!:angel:
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The screen definitely doesn't have washed out colors. Viewing angles could be better but colors are great, also color calibration is built into the display settings.
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REAVER117 said:
The screen definitely doesn't have washed out colors. Viewing angles could be better but colors are great, also color calibration is built into the display settings.
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The washed out issiue is just because the devices shown were made by hand means that the display and the kristallglass were not glued together that's because they look washed out
Believe me
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Yellow tint on S4 screen

I have this annoying yellow tint on my S4's screen, but disappears when the phone is tilted over 45 degrees. Is this faulty ? Shall I return it ? Or is there a way I can fix the gamma through an app without rooting the phone ?
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I have this too, interested if this is a defect or just the colour tone of the amoled on the gs4
I have the S2 and it's blue compared to my display on computer, and I don't even notice it unless I put it against the computer display like you did.
Maybe try other display calibration, I hear you can change them.
Ok, been doing some google research on this -
There's always going to be a slight yellow tint to the particular amoled screen used in the GS4. However, to reduce the effect, set your screen mode to MOVIE.
Movie mode provides the best colour accuracy and also white point of the available choices. I can confirm this is the case having just spent a few minutes comparing colour charts to my girlfriend's very well-calibrated iphone 5.
So I would set it to MOVIE. The whites still won't be IPS display white, but then IPS can't touch the beautiful blacks on amoled. Horses for courses. Hope this helps.
@paddlyaz can you provide sources of where you got this info ? -- Edit : I just tried it, all that did was make the display washed off..Yellow tint still visible
It may LOOK washed out to you - but this is an AMOLED display, which is naturally very colour saturated.
If you compare the gs4 to an iphone 5 like I did just now, you'll see that even in Movie mode, the colours are a little MORE saturated than even the iphone 5 has to offer. The tint is a side-effect of this. IPS displays like the iphone may offer truer whites but amoled displays like the gs4 destroy them in terms of saturation and black levels.
It all depends on what you prefer on a phone.
In terms of the GS4, some people find the 'dynamic' and 'standard' modes vibrant and eye-pleasing - but they're not at all accurate and will exaggerated, innaccurate representations of your photos, videos etc. I have one photo of me in a yellow jumper (fashion mistake I know). When I have it on 'standard' it looks like I just came back from a two week holiday in Chernobyl. In movie mode, it looks exactly how it looks in real-life (i.e. still disgusting but accurate).
Here are a couple of links that describe it more:
http://www.gsmarena.com/displaymate_tests_galaxy_s4_screen_gives_it_the_thumbs_up-news-5928.php
http://gizmodo.com/5995376/galaxy-s-iv-display-shoot+out-how-does-it-compare
I wish I have another camera to show you the difference between my iPhone and S4 ... The iPhone's screen is bright white compared to the yellow tint on my S4. If this is a "feature" then it's not really efficient now is it =\
Maybe there is a way I can manually edit the gamma, this should fix the problem I guess. Or just exchange it for another one.
did you read ANY of my post?!
It's the trade off you pay for having perfect black levels and saturated colours.
The only way you're ever going to see perfect whites is if you get an iphone/htc one - e.g. an IPS display.
But then you're going to be stuck with 'blacks' that are actually grey. And that SUCKS.
People have differing opinions on which trade-off they'd rather have. Personally I'll take a slightly 'warmer' screen in return for having deep, inky blacks.
Hmm I see, so the display type is the reason why the yellow tint appears eh ? Interesting, thanks for the links too, going to check them out.
all screens will be slightly different from each other - but yes, amoled screens will almost always have either a slight YELLOW tint, or a slight BLUE tint - in other words, a slight exaggeration of one particular tone. If you have the time, do a google search and you'll see this was a common 'issue' flagged up on both the gs3 and gs2.
Your best bet is to do the following:
-set screen mode to MOVIE
-disable 'auto adjust screen tone'
-disable auto brightness.
You will never EVER see perfect whites on an amoled screen, and anyone who tells you they have them is lying out of their arse. Most reviews for the GS4 and also in the articles I linked you state that the GS4 is the most accurate amoled screen so far though.
If still disappointed, your best bet is the iphone5/htc one/nexus 4 etc
I think having an exaggerated blue tone is better than a yellow tone, in my own opinion.
Anyone else having this issue ?
I noticed this playing around with the S4 in the store. Still, much better than the S3 white point.
bad yellow tint
Hi everyone,
I received my s4 last week and found it yellowish as well. I have read everything regarding the screen yellow tint and the fact that it's because of the type of screen. I was going to give up but my girlfriend got one today as well and the comparison is very clear: her whites are so much better!
I have tried to take photos of them, and it looks greenish on the shots but you can see the difference. FYI the screen are both using the same settings: auto brightness off, brightness at the maximum, both screen mode in adapt display (I have tried the movie mode without noticing a change).
Mine is on the right if you couldn't see. You can clearly see the difference in the colour and the quality of the screen. I also noticed that the viewing angle are way worse on mine, the phone takes a greenish colour.
Finally I have very strong smearing/ghosting as soon as the screen background is black. For example when I am in the settings, if I scroll up and down, the thin lines separating the sections actually disappear whilst the menu scrolls. The thicker separator get a purple line until the scolling stops. Once again, the smearing on my girlfriend's phone is existant but much less strong. The thin separators are still visible even while the phone is scrolling.
I am definitely bringing it back to the store tomorrow. I am very disappointed with the screen even though the phone is great. I wouldn't change for a One, just for a good one.
Light_Addict said:
Hi everyone,
I received my s4 last week and found yellowish as well. I have read everything regarding the screen yellow tint and the fact that it's a because of the type of screen. I was going to give up but my girlfriend got one today as well and the comparison is very clear: her whites are so much better!
I have tried to take photos of them, and it looks greenish on the shots but you can see the difference. FYI the screen are both using the same settings: auto brightness off, brightness at the maximum, both screen mode in adapt display (I have tried the movie mode without noticing a change).
Mine is on the right if you couldn't see. You can clearly see the difference in the colour and the quality of the screen. I also noticed that the viewing angle are way worse on mine, the phone takes a greenish colour.
Finally I have very strong smearing/ghosting as soon as th screen background is black. For example when I am in the settings, when I scroll up and down, the thin line seperating the sections actually disappear whilst the menu scrolls. The thicker separator get a purple line until the scolling stops. Once again, the smearing on my girlfriend's phone is existant but much less strong. The thin separators are still visible even while the phone is scrolling.
I am definitely bringing it back to the store tomorrow. I am very disappointed with the screen even though the phone is great. I wouldn't change for a One, just for a good one.
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This is exactly my problem, let me know what happens with you !
ZaZu90 said:
This is exactly my problem, let me know what happens with you !
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I had the same yellow tint on screen and tried a few different firmwares thinking maybe its a software issue but nothing fixed it.
Picked up a new s4 last night and this one is perfect. The thing I noticed is the new one is assenbled in Vietnam and the old one
was assembled in China. Over all the build quality on the new one feels much better along with audio quality.
Maybe a quality control issues in some factories
Cheers
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I had the same yellow tint on screen and tried a few different firmwares thinking maybe its a software issue but nothing fixed it.
Picked up a new s4 last night and this one is perfect. The thing I noticed is the new one is assenbled in Vietnam and the old one
was assembled in China. Over all the build quality on the new one feels much better along with audio quality.
Maybe a quality control issues in some factories
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Where does it say the location of assembly ? I want to see where mine is. Also, did you exchange your phone for a new one ? How did you convince them it was faulty ?
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Where does it say the location of assembly ? I want to see where mine is. Also, did you exchange your phone for a new one ? How did you convince them it was faulty ?
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You'll see it when you pull the battery, there should be a sticker there.
I am located in Toronto and we dont have any samsung stores here
so i actually bought another one from this dealer i found on kijiji.
The new one was sealed and its from Hong Kong (but assembled in Vietnam)
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You'll see it when you pull the battery, there should be a sticker there.
I am located in Toronto and we dont have any samsung stores here
so i actually bought another one from this dealer i found on kijiji.
The new one was sealed and its from Hong Kong (but assembled in Vietnam)
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I looked at mine and it says made in Vietnam... But I would agree to say that there is a problem with quality control overall. My guess is that they need to produce as much as possible to avoid any shortage. I had the same problem with my Note 1 and could be bothered to change it, this time I won't let it go.
I will keep you posted.
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I looked at mine and it says made in Vietnam... But I would agree to say that there is a problem with quality control overall. My guess is that they need to produce as much as possible to avoid any shortage. I had the same problem with my Note 1 and could be bothered to change it, this time I won't let it go.
I will keep you posted.
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I had to go to another branch and thankfully they had a model with a white tone screen. I compared it there and they did indeed see the yellow-tone in my phone. I am getting a refund soon, it's not really worth all this trouble i'm fed up of the customer service experience with Samsung.

Returning my Z1

Well I'm going to be returning my Z1 due to the very poor screen.
Everything on the screen isn't sharp enough (funny that as it's a Sharp panel) the colours are very poor. The white are more cream like.
Software is buggy if you turn off optimised backlight.
Ear piece speaker isn't loud enough, probably due to the waterproofing.
Camera is nothing to rave about either.
Yes some of these issues will be sorted out with updates but they might not and I'm not taking the risk on a £550+ device.
It's a shame because I really wanted to like the device but I'll be happy to go back to my Nexus 4!
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Hope you will find a phone that you really love.
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Back to my trusty N4 and maybe the N5. Like I said I really wanted to like the device but even when compared to my nexus 4 the screen on the Z1 looks poor.
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Well I'm going to be returning my Z1 due to the very poor screen.
Everything on the screen isn't sharp enough (funny that as it's a Sharp panel) the colours are very poor. The white are more cream like.
Software is buggy if you turn off optimised backlight.
Ear piece speaker isn't loud enough, probably due to the waterproofing.
Camera is nothing to rave about either.
Yes some of these issues will be sorted out with updates but they might not and I'm not taking the risk on a £550+ device.
It's a shame because I really wanted to like the device but I'll be happy to go back to my Nexus 4!
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I'm having a similar issue with the screen too... Compared to my Nexus 7 screen, the whites are very creamy! Going to see if they're willing to do an exchange!
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just see and compare.,,,
Target -- original color
Actual--color the phone shows
Display only problem with gamma at angle... which have huge impact...for rest all spec Z1 is better than nexus4
Speaker and headphone sound is s**t i agree
Camera is nothing to rave about only if you compare dedicated camera... in phone it is good
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just see and compare.,,,
Target -- original color
Actual--color the phone shows
Display only problem with gamma at angle... which have huge impact...for rest all spec Z1 is better than nexus4
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The issue for me when I'm in apps, while my Nexus 7 screen shows a bright white background, the Z1's is a bit yellowy in the same app... I'm going to give it a bit more time... Have 28 days, might exchange for a new one when stock comes into stores...
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The issue for me when I'm in apps, while my Nexus 7 screen shows a bright white background, the Z1's is a bit yellowy in the same app... I'm going to give it a bit more time... Have 28 days, might exchange for a new one when stock comes into stores...
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I think.... It is dust on screen glue during assembly. they used cheap production... Some phones are affected by this issue... not sure,,,i had yellow tint when i used invisble shield back in india.. Uk no issue ... maybe temp too
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I think.... It is dust on screen glue during assembly. they used cheap production... Some phones are affected by this issue... not sure,,,i had yellow tint when i used invisble shield back in india.. Uk no issue ... maybe temp too
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To be honest, its just that I used to have an S3 and its has a lot of colour saturation and vibrance due to Super AMOLED screen.. I will compare to display models on Wednesday and see how.. I got 28 days to exchange anyways!
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To be honest, its just that I used to have an S3 and its has a lot of colour saturation and vibrance due to Super AMOLED screen.. I will compare to display models on Wednesday and see how.. I got 28 days to exchange anyways!
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Well, the S3 displays whites with a distracting blue tint. Returning that unit? Lol.
Just give it a chance for it to settle. Try going to *#*#7378423#*#* and run a display test. Check if it's yellowish there. Unless my Xperia Ion has a yellow screen (highly doubt), I compared a C6903 and my ion screen yesterday via the service menu and whites looked white on both screens.
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Well, the S3 displays whites with a distracting blue tint. Returning that unit? Lol.
Just give it a chance for it to settle. Try going to *#*#7378423#*#* and run a display test. Check if it's yellowish there. Unless my Xperia Ion has a yellow screen (highly doubt), I compared a C6903 and my ion screen yesterday via the service menu and whites looked white on both screens.
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Yeah looks pretty white in the test.. I'll hold on compare to other display units when I have a chance on Wednesday and then see how... Its probably my eyes lol..
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Well, the S3 displays whites with a distracting blue tint. Returning that unit? Lol.
Just give it a chance for it to settle. Try going to *#*#7378423#*#* and run a display test. Check if it's yellowish there. Unless my Xperia Ion has a yellow screen (highly doubt), I compared a C6903 and my ion screen yesterday via the service menu and whites looked white on both screens.
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Hey I did that test and its yellowish. Is that a build defect?
Same issue with the Xperia T when I compare it with the Xperia play
Z1 screen quality is not that good due to it probably is (at least certain batch) TN/VA panel.
Z1 is not same panel use as Z Ultra which is IPS.
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To be honest, its just that I used to have an S3 and its has a lot of colour saturation and vibrance due to Super AMOLED screen.. I will compare to display models on Wednesday and see how.. I got 28 days to exchange anyways!
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to me the Amoled screen makes everything look unnatural - like everything looks animated instead of real, it might be pretty to look at but it is just so lacking in detail and texture, I tried watching a movie on anS4 and it looked dark saturated and animated - honestly not really what anyone want
Ever wonder why they don't use Amoled screen on TV's ? if you answer that honestly then you will understand why the Z1 screen is preferable
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to me the Amoled screen makes everything look unnatural - like everything looks animated instead of real, it might be pretty to look at but it is just so lacking in detail and texture, I tried watching a movie on anS4 and it looked dark saturated and animated - honestly not really what anyone want
Ever wonder why they don't use Amoled screen on TV's ? if you answer that honestly then you will understand why the Z1 screen is preferable
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It is difficult to fabricate and costly to fabricate large panel using AMOLED. the life of AMOLED is not high to be used in TV..Content mad is for sRGB gamut not for complete visual wavelength... gaming in AMOLED is awesome... other than that Z1 is awesome..
Tested the camera vs my HTC one. Z1 is pretty good Imo.
Screen has poor viewing angles, but who's really going to look at the phone at these angles really....
And the yellowish screen, not as white as my HTC one, but it's not yellow as others are saying. I remember the s3 and note 2 were yellow so idk
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Tested the camera vs my HTC one. Z1 is pretty good Imo.
Screen has poor viewing angles, but who's really going to look at the phone at these angles really....
And the yellowish screen, not as white as my HTC one, but it's not yellow as others are saying. I remember the s3 and note 2 were yellow so idk
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Can you post a screenshot of what you got in the test?
I don't think the z1 screen is the best out there but not bad. and much better than the old z software is fine here. fast and snappy camera decent. Not better than my 1020 but better than a lot of phones out there.
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I don't think the z1 screen is the best out there but not bad. and much better than the old z software is fine here. fast and snappy camera decent. Not better than my 1020 but better than a lot of phones out there.
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I was comparing screen colours to my nexus 4 and they were well off.
There is no way I'm accepting a device that is worse then the model it's replacing.
Let's see what the N5 brings.
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I was comparing screen colours to my nexus 4 and they were well off.
There is no way I'm accepting a device that is worse then the model it's replacing.
Let's see what the N5 brings.
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Wise choice if you are unhappy with a device then no point keeping it and you really cannot go wrong with the Nexus range anyway.

How is THAT screen?

I created this thread specifically for all the members to talk about the new 2k screen of the LG G3. The screen is the most important feature of the LG G3 and it is what LG brags about the most. For many of us including me, the screen will be the deciding factor of whether we buy the phone or not.How does the new 2k display panel perform in real life situations compared to other high end phone display panels like the Galaxy S5 or HTC One M8? Let's have a nice dedicated thread to the most important feature on this phone.
Ideas to talk about:
•Contrast levels
•How your content looks on it
•Your thoughts of it compared to the previous display you had.
•Any weird issues? (Screen interlacing, ghost issues)
•Color production
•Do you find it nice and worthwhile?
•How are those BLACK LEVELS (Important!)
•Any heat issues with the screen?
•Good high and low brightness levels?
All of the above... Thinking of upgrading from a nexus 5...
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I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!
Spewy1 said:
I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!
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Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)
And ffs please, reviewers, don't simply declare that you can't distinguish individual pixels on 1080p as well as 2k and then conclude from that that the extra resolution doesn't make a difference. The question is: how do you subjectively experience visual items in 2k vs. 1080p--images, text, UI items, etc.. Past 325 dpi, a pixel is not an item, so it's irrelevant that you can't see one. Tons of those online reviews provide what the reviewer thinks their impression of the screen must be instead of the reviewer providing their true impression.
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Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)
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I don't like the s5. Various reasons but mainly the cover over the charging port and overall design.
I love my g2 but need more memory (64gb minimum). I am worried about the screen on the g3 but the reviewers all focus on the resolution but I want to hear from real users about the real world experience of the screen.
Many thanks in advance for any input from owners of the phone.
Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/
That cover on the S5 (my wife has one), is for water proofing and easily ripped off.
Personally, I could use a screen with less pixels and longer screen-on time. I consider the screen resolution to be a minus. My preference is less pixels and make it a 6", like the HTC One Max I just returned after a week.
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Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/
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Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
Even at point-blank range, it's hard to resolve a single pixel. 1080p screens are also beautiful, though, and when looking at the two, side-by-side, we aren't convinced the jump to 1440p is necessary. More pixels only matter if you can see them, and on a ~5-inch device, it's almost impossible to tell the difference between a 1080p screen and the 1440p screen of the G3.
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That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.
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Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.
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I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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How can you?
theraker007 said:
I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?
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That's logical. But so is the idea that the human eye can't distinguish pixels at a density greater than 326dpi. So, yeah, it comes down to subjective judgment calls. In that case, I'm interested in the subjective point of view of people who actually have one of these devices and their actual experience. We already know how do deduce logically what everyone's experience must be, and all the reviews I've read only do that. Images and text may appear sharper at a given distance from the eye in a way unrelated to whether or not you can distinguish an individual pixel.
The LG G3 has the best smartphone display I've seen: It's sharp, but it's also bright and has great color. The colors don't pop quite as much as on some of the better SuperAMOLED screens I've seen (such as on the just-announced Samsung Galaxy Tab S), but the sharpness is off the charts.
Comparing the G3's display to the one on the HTC One M8 (my current favorite Android phone), I felt the LG's was just as sharp, and a few details — such as drop shadows in Evernote — stood out slightly more. And even though colors weren't as vivid as on the HTC, the G3 had more natural skin tones
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From Mashable's review. Everyone's eyes are different I guess.
Contrast was superb. Black text on white background — one of the most essential things a smartphone, or any display, needs to get right — really stood out. The ultra-sharp characters nearly jumped off the screen, and I couldn't discern individual pixels, no matter how close I put my eye to the screen.
So the LG G3's Quad HD display is more than just hype. But only a bit. There's nothing wrong with the HTC One M8's screen — or the Samsung Galaxy S5's or the iPhone 5S's for that matter. They're still mighty sharp, and can display great images, just not quite as sharply or as impressively as the LG G3.
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Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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I truly hope that the screen is great on this phone but I can't wait any longer and have just ordered an S5. I have waited for all the flagships to come out this year and was truly hoping that the G3 would be the one. Two of the most important things to me are brightness and battery life and I'm worried that with the G3 I would end up having the brightness cranked all the time and would have poor battery life as a result. Really wanted to try LG this time but lost my nerve
Tapped it!
hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.
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Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.
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yes but not for marketing.
I'm most concerned with the viewing angles, black levels, contrast, and color accuracy. I'm definitely getting the G3 but I really don't want to have to play the panel lottery. I'd prefer a warmer display over a cooler display - as long as it's not noticeably pink/green/blue, I'm fine. A slight yellow/orange tint is okay, but obviously a calibrated display would be the best. My black Nexus 5's viewing angles aren't great, with the screen washing out at 30+ degree angle. My buddy's white Nexus 5 seems to have better viewing angles, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I'm pretty confident in LG's ability to produce good displays -- they pretty much made this phone just to show off their new display.
Actually, I'm now concerned about the narrowness of the bezel. Yes, it's a cool feature, and everyone dreams of a bezel-less phone, but I already have problems due to the narrowness of my S4's bezel. When I'm holding my phone for an extended time, referring to notes while speaking to people, my grip often gets interpreted by the system as a touch and hold. That pops up a dialog that I have to dismiss, and it's really obtrusive in real time situations. Sure, I could be more careful, but it's just too easy to make that problem happen during normal usage. It's not like I have big fat hands or a weird grip or anything. I've already been thinking that when we finally get bezel-free phones, there will have to be utilities to create a non-reactive border of pixels in a user-specified width, or else the user will accidentally be popping things up all over the place. At present, though, I think the G3's large size and tiny bezel are actually going to make it difficult to use the way I want to use it even though it's hardly bigger than my S4. You never know until you actually use it for a few days and try to adapt, but there's no way to do that without buying it, which I'm now hesitant to do.
You're holding it wrong ☺
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Hey guys, so I've been loving my Xperia z3 apart from one problem - the display. I was unhappy with the blue-leaning cold look. What I wanted was a proper, sRGB industry standard, calibrated screen. But I kept failing to get it right.
I've seen a lot of people sharing rgb values for white balance, and the problem with this is having been into a store I've realised that all the displays are a bit different and in some cases require completely different tuning. The only exception of course being that blue should be kept on 0
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I've managed to get my display as close to perfect by doing the following. I'm not a professional so I'm not suggesting this is a sort of gold standard or anything. It's making do:
1) Download this picture to your phone and set your brightness to the bottom instructions: http://www.furthertofly.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/brightness_contrast_setting.png
Why? Because after going wrong several times trying to calibrate my display to my macbook, I realized because the brightnesses of panels are different, this can RADICALLY affect how things look as you adjust the sliders.
2) I went into an Apple store and downloaded the above picture onto an IPhone 5c and adjusted the 5c's brightness similarly. Why a 5c? Because every journalist Ive seen on the web (Erica Griffin and Anandtech to name two) both say that the iPhone is the best calibrated display. Hands down. 5c because anandtech say it has the best white balance of any iPhone. (6 is a tiny bit blue/cold apparently)
3) Making sure x-reality and super vivid are off, I downloaded a pure white picture onto both my z3 and 5c and played with the z3's white balance until my phone was nearly perfectly in line with the iphone. Nearly.
Hope this helps someone, I know that sounds a bit OCD and silly to go to that trouble. But my display looks frickin awesome now, and felt this was worth sharing. Yes I know it's a bit amateur-hour....but so what.
Do you mind sharing your settings
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I think it differs, unit to unit some are bluer than others, my phone is already fairly close to the chart OP put up. So OPs settings may or may not work for you.
Its probably better to calibrate to the chart OP gave, by yourself.
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Do you mind sharing your settings
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I purposely didn't reveal my settings as the point I was trying to make was that this is where everyone is going wrong. Even to the naked eye, two screens that LOOK comparable actually won't be once you start changing the w/b....
But anyway yeah my final calibration is R:70, G:230, b:0.
I have 20:20 vision (ish) and no colour blindness.
AGAIN, these settings should be absolutely irrelevant to your handset.
It will never be PERFECT because the Xperia uses a blue backlight led as opposed to a white one. So there will always be a little blue favouritism....but my point being you can get to 'almost-perfect' from the out-of-the-box ridiculousness that one finds.
Put it this way, my xperia z3 is now better calibrated than my macbook pro, but not QUITE (maybe 90% as good) as an iPhone 5c.
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I have 20:20 vision (ish) and no colour blindness.
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People's eyesight 1) is different to other people's, and 2) changes through age. There's no *right* value. If you go to the same webpage on your monitor, tablet and phone, you'll likely find they all look different.
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People's eyesight 1) is different to other people's, and 2) changes through age. There's no *right* value. If you go to the same webpage on your monitor, tablet and phone, you'll likely find they all look different.
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Yes I know I've never suggested otherwise. I only added those details in case someone (such as yourself) might offer them as reasons for unreliable variability. I just added that to rule out any visual eccentricities that might negatively affect the value of what i was saying.
The fact that it changes through age is irrelevant. I am referencing the screen to something else...so the contrasting reference will be consistent. sRGB calibrations are advanced measurements made using (among other things) wavelength. That's why they are a standard.
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Yes I know I've never suggested otherwise. I only added those details in case someone (such as yourself) might offer them as reasons for unreliable variability. I just added that to rule out any visual eccentricities that might negatively affect the value of what i was saying.
The fact that it changes through age is irrelevant. I am referencing the screen to something else...so the contrasting reference will be consistent. sRGB calibrations are advanced measurements made using (among other things) wavelength. That's why they are a standard.
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If you're calibrating your phone so that images you produce in phone are more likely to be reproduced accurately on other people's devices, then you're doing it right.
If, however, you're calibrating your phone to an objective external definition of what is accurate without taking your own eyes into account, you're doing it wrong, because - for example - if you're older and your eyesight is therefore tending towards the yellow then you need to compensate for that, otherwise your spot-on, 100% accurate colour reproduction is going to look too yellow.
Also, bear in mind that absolutely nobodies phone, tablet, monitor, tv etc is calibrated "properly", not are they set to the same brightness/contrast settings, and some people have dynamic this and cinema mode that. Perhaps in the future this'll be handled properly, but not - I suspect- on most consumer equipment.
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If you're calibrating your phone so that images you produce in phone are more likely to be reproduced accurately on other people's devices, then you're doing it right.
If, however, you're calibrating your phone to an objective external definition of what is accurate without taking your own eyes into account, you're doing it wrong, because - for example - if you're older and your eyesight is therefore tending towards the yellow then you need to compensate for that, otherwise your spot-on, 100% accurate colour reproduction is going to look too yellow.
Also, bear in mind that absolutely nobodies phone, tablet, monitor, tv etc is calibrated "properly", not are they set to the same brightness/contrast settings, and some people have dynamic this and cinema mode that. Perhaps in the future this'll be handled properly, but not - I suspect- on most consumer equipment.
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Well I did say it wasn't meant to be professional grade. I'm young, decent eyesight, and there is such a thing as proper calibration in the digital/tech world - sRGB is the international standard for displaying content on the internet for instance. Anyway, I posted my methodology because it's something that someone can do very easily just by popping into an apple store on the way to work etc - much easier than spending ages comparing peoples' posted values that are all going to be even more subjective and open to error.
I've got loads of phones in my shop so i've tried to callibrate it to match other phones, but because the blue level on mine is so high, I just can't get it anywhere near other phones. I've tried Iphone 5c's, 5s's, Xperia Z and Z1, HTC One.
Just can't get the display anywhere near them. They always seem too yellow and my device won't match it so i'm trying very very hard to get used to the blue screen.
abhinav.tella said:
I think it differs, unit to unit some are bluer than others, my phone is already fairly close to the chart OP put up. So OPs settings may or may not work for you.
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You're right. I returned my first Z3 and I compared it to my second and it was a big difference. My second one has much warmer whites and I don't need to calibrate it.
When I did a warranty exchange with my Nexus 5 the screens looked different as well.
I'm a little lost, what exactly are you supposed to do once you download this Pic?
marc539 said:
I'm a little lost, what exactly are you supposed to do once you download this Pic?
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Calibrate the screen so you can "barely" see the separation between the black bars.
abhinav.tella said:
Calibrate the screen so you can "barely" see the separation between the black bars.
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How is this going to address "too warm/too blue" white balance issues?
paddylaz said:
I purposely didn't reveal my settings as the point I was trying to make was that this is where everyone is going wrong. Even to the naked eye, two screens that LOOK comparable actually won't be once you start changing the w/b....
But anyway yeah my final calibration is R:70, G:230, b:0.
I have 20:20 vision (ish) and no colour blindness.
AGAIN, these settings should be absolutely irrelevant to your handset.
It will never be PERFECT because the Xperia uses a blue backlight led as opposed to a white one. So there will always be a little blue favouritism....but my point being you can get to 'almost-perfect' from the out-of-the-box ridiculousness that one finds.
Put it this way, my xperia z3 is now better calibrated than my macbook pro, but not QUITE (maybe 90% as good) as an iPhone 5c.
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Green at 230? WOW! lol. Little too dramatic, lol. Try Red 36, Green 8, and Blue 0. But then again, my default whiteness isn't too bad. little cool, but just a small nudge in red and green will do the trick!
With default settings my phone is showing a bit warmer / reddish colors. I have to increase the blue color a bit in order to make white background pure white.
z3 dual
what's you're display calibration for z3 dual there, anyone? I guess the z3 dual screen is much better than the single variants.
70/230/0 is far too off to be deemed accurate. All my monitors are calibrated with an i1Display pro and I've visually calibrated my Z3 alongside the monitors to match (169/188/47 RGB):
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My values won't work the same on any other Z3 as you'd expect but it's a starting point at least I guess.
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70/230/0 is far too off to be deemed accurate. All my monitors are calibrated with an i1Display pro and I've visually calibrated my Z3 alongside the monitors to match (169/188/47 RGB):
My values won't work the same on any other Z3 as you'd expect but it's a starting point at least I guess.
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Robbie, I think you may still have x reality or superivivid enabled, since the red on the headscarf via the z3 is very saturated, I like it like so but the monitor behind it depicts a more purplish subdued red instead.
Nope I have all display processing features disabled as I never liked using them^^
If you just look at your phone screen you won't tell it's blue. Until you hold it directly to a good screen, like a mac, then you will tell its kinda blue with bright images. I won't change the white balance, since I cant tell the difference without a 'real white' screen next to it and I like the brightness. Its nice to be able to read your messages directly in the sun.

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