Hey guys, so I've been loving my Xperia z3 apart from one problem - the display. I was unhappy with the blue-leaning cold look. What I wanted was a proper, sRGB industry standard, calibrated screen. But I kept failing to get it right.
I've seen a lot of people sharing rgb values for white balance, and the problem with this is having been into a store I've realised that all the displays are a bit different and in some cases require completely different tuning. The only exception of course being that blue should be kept on 0
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I've managed to get my display as close to perfect by doing the following. I'm not a professional so I'm not suggesting this is a sort of gold standard or anything. It's making do:
1) Download this picture to your phone and set your brightness to the bottom instructions: http://www.furthertofly.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/brightness_contrast_setting.png
Why? Because after going wrong several times trying to calibrate my display to my macbook, I realized because the brightnesses of panels are different, this can RADICALLY affect how things look as you adjust the sliders.
2) I went into an Apple store and downloaded the above picture onto an IPhone 5c and adjusted the 5c's brightness similarly. Why a 5c? Because every journalist Ive seen on the web (Erica Griffin and Anandtech to name two) both say that the iPhone is the best calibrated display. Hands down. 5c because anandtech say it has the best white balance of any iPhone. (6 is a tiny bit blue/cold apparently)
3) Making sure x-reality and super vivid are off, I downloaded a pure white picture onto both my z3 and 5c and played with the z3's white balance until my phone was nearly perfectly in line with the iphone. Nearly.
Hope this helps someone, I know that sounds a bit OCD and silly to go to that trouble. But my display looks frickin awesome now, and felt this was worth sharing. Yes I know it's a bit amateur-hour....but so what.
Do you mind sharing your settings
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I think it differs, unit to unit some are bluer than others, my phone is already fairly close to the chart OP put up. So OPs settings may or may not work for you.
Its probably better to calibrate to the chart OP gave, by yourself.
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I purposely didn't reveal my settings as the point I was trying to make was that this is where everyone is going wrong. Even to the naked eye, two screens that LOOK comparable actually won't be once you start changing the w/b....
But anyway yeah my final calibration is R:70, G:230, b:0.
I have 20:20 vision (ish) and no colour blindness.
AGAIN, these settings should be absolutely irrelevant to your handset.
It will never be PERFECT because the Xperia uses a blue backlight led as opposed to a white one. So there will always be a little blue favouritism....but my point being you can get to 'almost-perfect' from the out-of-the-box ridiculousness that one finds.
Put it this way, my xperia z3 is now better calibrated than my macbook pro, but not QUITE (maybe 90% as good) as an iPhone 5c.
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I have 20:20 vision (ish) and no colour blindness.
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People's eyesight 1) is different to other people's, and 2) changes through age. There's no *right* value. If you go to the same webpage on your monitor, tablet and phone, you'll likely find they all look different.
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People's eyesight 1) is different to other people's, and 2) changes through age. There's no *right* value. If you go to the same webpage on your monitor, tablet and phone, you'll likely find they all look different.
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Yes I know I've never suggested otherwise. I only added those details in case someone (such as yourself) might offer them as reasons for unreliable variability. I just added that to rule out any visual eccentricities that might negatively affect the value of what i was saying.
The fact that it changes through age is irrelevant. I am referencing the screen to something else...so the contrasting reference will be consistent. sRGB calibrations are advanced measurements made using (among other things) wavelength. That's why they are a standard.
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Yes I know I've never suggested otherwise. I only added those details in case someone (such as yourself) might offer them as reasons for unreliable variability. I just added that to rule out any visual eccentricities that might negatively affect the value of what i was saying.
The fact that it changes through age is irrelevant. I am referencing the screen to something else...so the contrasting reference will be consistent. sRGB calibrations are advanced measurements made using (among other things) wavelength. That's why they are a standard.
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If you're calibrating your phone so that images you produce in phone are more likely to be reproduced accurately on other people's devices, then you're doing it right.
If, however, you're calibrating your phone to an objective external definition of what is accurate without taking your own eyes into account, you're doing it wrong, because - for example - if you're older and your eyesight is therefore tending towards the yellow then you need to compensate for that, otherwise your spot-on, 100% accurate colour reproduction is going to look too yellow.
Also, bear in mind that absolutely nobodies phone, tablet, monitor, tv etc is calibrated "properly", not are they set to the same brightness/contrast settings, and some people have dynamic this and cinema mode that. Perhaps in the future this'll be handled properly, but not - I suspect- on most consumer equipment.
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If you're calibrating your phone so that images you produce in phone are more likely to be reproduced accurately on other people's devices, then you're doing it right.
If, however, you're calibrating your phone to an objective external definition of what is accurate without taking your own eyes into account, you're doing it wrong, because - for example - if you're older and your eyesight is therefore tending towards the yellow then you need to compensate for that, otherwise your spot-on, 100% accurate colour reproduction is going to look too yellow.
Also, bear in mind that absolutely nobodies phone, tablet, monitor, tv etc is calibrated "properly", not are they set to the same brightness/contrast settings, and some people have dynamic this and cinema mode that. Perhaps in the future this'll be handled properly, but not - I suspect- on most consumer equipment.
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Well I did say it wasn't meant to be professional grade. I'm young, decent eyesight, and there is such a thing as proper calibration in the digital/tech world - sRGB is the international standard for displaying content on the internet for instance. Anyway, I posted my methodology because it's something that someone can do very easily just by popping into an apple store on the way to work etc - much easier than spending ages comparing peoples' posted values that are all going to be even more subjective and open to error.
I've got loads of phones in my shop so i've tried to callibrate it to match other phones, but because the blue level on mine is so high, I just can't get it anywhere near other phones. I've tried Iphone 5c's, 5s's, Xperia Z and Z1, HTC One.
Just can't get the display anywhere near them. They always seem too yellow and my device won't match it so i'm trying very very hard to get used to the blue screen.
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I think it differs, unit to unit some are bluer than others, my phone is already fairly close to the chart OP put up. So OPs settings may or may not work for you.
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You're right. I returned my first Z3 and I compared it to my second and it was a big difference. My second one has much warmer whites and I don't need to calibrate it.
When I did a warranty exchange with my Nexus 5 the screens looked different as well.
I'm a little lost, what exactly are you supposed to do once you download this Pic?
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I'm a little lost, what exactly are you supposed to do once you download this Pic?
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Calibrate the screen so you can "barely" see the separation between the black bars.
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Calibrate the screen so you can "barely" see the separation between the black bars.
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How is this going to address "too warm/too blue" white balance issues?
paddylaz said:
I purposely didn't reveal my settings as the point I was trying to make was that this is where everyone is going wrong. Even to the naked eye, two screens that LOOK comparable actually won't be once you start changing the w/b....
But anyway yeah my final calibration is R:70, G:230, b:0.
I have 20:20 vision (ish) and no colour blindness.
AGAIN, these settings should be absolutely irrelevant to your handset.
It will never be PERFECT because the Xperia uses a blue backlight led as opposed to a white one. So there will always be a little blue favouritism....but my point being you can get to 'almost-perfect' from the out-of-the-box ridiculousness that one finds.
Put it this way, my xperia z3 is now better calibrated than my macbook pro, but not QUITE (maybe 90% as good) as an iPhone 5c.
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Green at 230? WOW! lol. Little too dramatic, lol. Try Red 36, Green 8, and Blue 0. But then again, my default whiteness isn't too bad. little cool, but just a small nudge in red and green will do the trick!
With default settings my phone is showing a bit warmer / reddish colors. I have to increase the blue color a bit in order to make white background pure white.
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what's you're display calibration for z3 dual there, anyone? I guess the z3 dual screen is much better than the single variants.
70/230/0 is far too off to be deemed accurate. All my monitors are calibrated with an i1Display pro and I've visually calibrated my Z3 alongside the monitors to match (169/188/47 RGB):
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My values won't work the same on any other Z3 as you'd expect but it's a starting point at least I guess.
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70/230/0 is far too off to be deemed accurate. All my monitors are calibrated with an i1Display pro and I've visually calibrated my Z3 alongside the monitors to match (169/188/47 RGB):
My values won't work the same on any other Z3 as you'd expect but it's a starting point at least I guess.
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Robbie, I think you may still have x reality or superivivid enabled, since the red on the headscarf via the z3 is very saturated, I like it like so but the monitor behind it depicts a more purplish subdued red instead.
Nope I have all display processing features disabled as I never liked using them^^
If you just look at your phone screen you won't tell it's blue. Until you hold it directly to a good screen, like a mac, then you will tell its kinda blue with bright images. I won't change the white balance, since I cant tell the difference without a 'real white' screen next to it and I like the brightness. Its nice to be able to read your messages directly in the sun.
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I just found this article written by someone who knows his stuff.
http://gizmodo.com/5824807/the-best-tablet-displays-ipad-2-just-got-dethroned
I disagree with him though as I believe the transformer has a better and brighter screen than the Ipad 2.
I have both side by side and the iPad2 is clearly brighter at max, dimmer at min, and less reflective...
Any one else notice that this page has a caption next to the results: "Click to embiggen chart" ?
How can I take an article seriously if they use words that were made up on an episode of The Simpsons. I guess they would argue that their usage was perfectly cromulent.
The best one is the one that fits your eyes.
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The best one is the one that fits your eyes.
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Right, I almost never use max brightness.
Also Transformer has 1.3 times more the number of iPad 2 pixels.
This guy knows his stuff, so I'd not be inclined to argue with him. However, I'll say this: the screen on my TF is outstanding, regardless of whether or not some other screen is better. It's like cars: I love my Infiniti G37, even though there are demonstrably better-performing cars available. And indeed, one of the things that I love about the G37 is that I paid $15K less for it than the equivalent BMW, and have 95% of the performance. That's an equation that I can live with quite happily...
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ive seen other review of the screen(cant remember where) by a guy who knows alot about photography, he did all this measurement on the color and white balance on the k scale, and has said if your into professional photo applications the transformers screen is the best as it produces very accurate colors, also samsung had put a screen driver ontop of the tegra 2 one to over saturate colors to make the screen appear more vibrant but if your looking for image accuracy its a bad screen for that
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ive seen other review of the screen(cant remember where) by a guy who knows alot about photography, he did all this measurement on the color and white balance on the k scale, and has said if your into professional photo applications the transformers screen is the best as it produces very accurate colors, also samsung had put a screen driver ontop of the tegra 2 one to over saturate colors to make the screen appear more vibrant but if your looking for image accuracy its a bad screen for that
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I have done measurement of the transformer and iPad and find that both units have some inaccuracy, but are pretty close to the actual values when displaying a sample color panel. I would give a nod to Transformer for warmer (red and orange) colors and the iPad to colder (blues) colors. Both are miles more accurate than the Samsung which is dramatically over saturated.
My iPad's screen is too warm, and my TF's screen is too cool.
It's a bit frustrating.
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ive seen other review of the screen(cant remember where) by a guy who knows alot about photography, he did all this measurement on the color and white balance on the k scale, and has said if your into professional photo applications the transformers screen is the best as it produces very accurate colors, also samsung had put a screen driver ontop of the tegra 2 one to over saturate colors to make the screen appear more vibrant but if your looking for image accuracy its a bad screen for that
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Yeah, the color accuracy is great on this screen. It almost makes it painful to go back to my laptop.
Never have thought the TF had the best screen, way too many issues with light leak to even be considered. It looks aight though.
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Never have thought the TF had the best screen, way too many issues with light leak to even be considered. It looks aight though.
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The Ipad is known for having light lead issues as well; it seems to be a "feature" of IPS panels. That does nothing, however, to detract from the fundamental quality of the screen when any light leakage isn't apparent (as in 100% of my own use, since I might have leakage but haven't even noticed it).
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My iPad's screen is too warm, and my TF's screen is too cool.
It's a bit frustrating.
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Tablets really need to have color profiles and brightness and contrast like you do on a Mac or PC. Then you could use a hardware calibrator to create a customize profile for the specific of your own display. I do this on all my laptops and desktop monitors and the results are very nice. The only downside is the calibrator hardware and software cost $250+.
i just had my screen replaced under warranty by asus for a white spot (backlight leak).
unless i'm imagining it, the new screen seems to be warmer and not quite so bright as the one it replaced
but it also has zero light bleed at the edges where the old one had quite a bit.
perhaps they're now using a different panel than when i first bought my b60 tf101 a year ago.
has anybody else noticed any variation in screen brightness/ colour between units?
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i just had my screen replaced under warranty by asus for a white spot (backlight leak).
unless i'm imagining it, the new screen seems to be warmer and not quite so bright as the one it replaced
but it also has zero light bleed at the edges where the old one had quite a bit.
perhaps they're now using a different panel than when i first bought my b60 tf101 a year ago.
has anybody else noticed any variation in screen brightness/ colour between units?
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Yeah Asus replaced mine too because it didn't wanna turn on. The new screen is magnificent no light bleed and yeah Asus Sammy and apple have the best screen
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I can't complaint as asus renewed my screen cause of back light leaking. Im told that apple always use too many pixels looking at there screen resolutions.
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The battery capacities these days! Amazing !!
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I have TF101 (mid level bleed issues, I can live with them given I rarely run full brightness, never need to), iPad 1,2,3, A500, Nook Color, and a few others. IMO, ALL of the IPS displays are great, and more than safisfying. I don't compare them because I don't see the point, they are all way more than "good enough" for my and my family's casual use. If you are using these for photography or similar "on the road" and color accuracy is a concern, then you should probably get a Macbook or even better the new asus zen gen2 (which beats even the MAC displays for accuracy, check out Anand's review on the new Zen Ultrabook, drool ). My main point is, as long as your display makes you happy, who cares if there is another one out there that is better . If you are researching for a purchase on the other hand, be realistic in what your uses are going to be and read reviews that cover those uses along with reliability and customer support quality, see if you can borrow one or check one out somewhere, and let your budget and your eyes be your guide, and you will be happy with what you get.
Just got my 1st replacement Nexus in the mail-the first one was exhibiting symptoms of a non-responsive touchscreen after heavy gaming or when exposed to sunlight. The replacement unit is almost flawless, except for one glaring flaw...the white balance on the screen is WAY off! Whites are tinted beige, and the screen looks extremely washed out and warm compared to my first one. Here's a side by side picture (not the best photo, difference is more pronounced to the naked eye).
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I'm tempted to send this one back, but I don't have the time to get stuck in a RMA loop, especially as I'll be travelling this month. What do you guys reckon-should I just keep this device with it's flawed WB, return for a replacement and hope for the best, or return for a refund?
Alternatively, is there any way I can dial out some of the warmness using software? I know there is a color tuning/calibration utility that is included with CM for my Galaxy S-anything similar exist for the N7?
I had the same issue as welll. My recent replacement has better whites bit the screen is still displaying a pinkish tint. My old nexus 7 had a yellowish tint as well. I wonder what the screen temperature is actually supposed to be :\
To the OP you are correct I've started two threads already about the color correction slash grey scale issues. Most agree that Google will not be doing anything about it. Just plain luck or bad luck. Both of those are not bad mine is just in between I would say.
I have linked to this video before http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD8n7xaPBMo the way cool blue tint on the unit shown would be grounds for return IMO. Whites need to be white, not yellow warm or cool blue. Just try and do a side by side with an iPad 3 if you can live with the offness then do so, its a lottery at this point.
I started two threads because so many people have said this is an issues, but it varies so much and is so subjective that its doubtful Google will do anything. I prefer the one to the right just because a little cool blue is way better than warm yellow but the New one on the left looks more accurate.
Hows the Backlight bleed?
A good simple test is I go to T-Mobile.com or Engadget their Magenta Pink and Engadget's sky blue are hard to get right. But then again that opens up a new can of worms about your color Gamut and Hue which I am sure also vary device to device. Its obvious by now this is a QC step Google did not require ASUS to perform. Most likely to improve production yields.
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To the OP you are correct I've started two threads already about the color correction slash grey scale issues. Most agree that Google will not be doing anything about it. Just plain luck or bad luck. Both of those are not bad mine is just in between I would say.
I have linked to this video before http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD8n7xaPBMo the way cool blue tint on the unit shown would be grounds for return IMO. Whites need to be white, not yellow warm or cool blue. Just try and do a side by side with an iPad 3 if you can live with the offness then do so, its a lottery at this point.
I started two threads because so many people have said this is an issues, but it varies so much and is so subjective that its doubtful Google will do anything. I prefer the one to the right just because a little cool blue is way better than warm yellow but the New one on the left looks more accurate.
Hows the Backlight bleed?
A good simple test is I go to T-Mobile.com or Engadget their Magenta Pink and Engadget's sky blue are hard to get right. But then again that opens up a new can of worms about your color Gamut and Hue which I am sure also vary device to device. Its obvious by now this is a QC step Google did not require ASUS to perform. Most likely to improve production yields.
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Thanks for the informative reply. It's really unfortunate that Asus has dropped the ball so badly with consistency-I can understand lowering some standards for a $200 device to increase production yields, but they've seemingly neglected numerous aspects as evidenced by all the problems the community is having.
As for the new vs old one, the photo is not the best representation-the old device has perfect whites, completely neutral-no tinge of blue at all. Colors gamut is also pretty accurate on the old one. The new one is visibly worse-not only is the white balance off (whites appear beige), but colors are over-saturated and blown out-I noticed a loss of detail immediately just by looking at my wallpaper. Flesh tones are especially bad-much more red than they should be. I even had my roommate do a blind test between the new and old, and he immediately noted that the old device had a "sharper, crisper" screen.
As far as backlight bleed, it's not too bad on both Nexus's (Nexii?). The new one has a bit of bleed in the lower left corner, but it isn't very noticeable and is the least of my concerns at this point. I'm just not sure if it's worth entering the lottery again to see if I can get a better device based on all the horror stories I've been reading here...
Are you aware of any calibration/color tuning utility for the N7? Devs should look into integrating a utility into their ROMs. Something like this:
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Thanks for the informative reply. It's really unfortunate that Asus has dropped the ball so badly with consistency-I can understand lowering some standards for a $200 device to increase production yields, but they've seemingly neglected numerous aspects as evidenced by all the problems the community is having.
As for the new vs old one, the photo is not the best representation-the old device has perfect whites, completely neutral-no tinge of blue at all. Colors gamut is also pretty accurate on the old one. The new one is visibly worse-not only is the white balance off (whites appear beige), but colors are over-saturated and blown out-I noticed a loss of detail immediately just by looking at my wallpaper. Flesh tones are especially bad-much more red than they should be. I even had my roommate do a blind test between the new and old, and he immediately noted that the old device had a "sharper, crisper" screen.
As far as backlight bleed, it's not too bad on both Nexus's (Nexii?). The new one has a bit of bleed in the lower left corner, but it isn't very noticeable and is the least of my concerns at this point. I'm just not sure if it's worth entering the lottery again to see if I can get a better device based on all the horror stories I've been reading here...
Are you aware of any calibration/color tuning utility for the N7? Devs should look into integrating a utility into their ROMs. Something like this:
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Sounds like they are messing with what would be called on HDTV's the Sharpness setting.Its gonna take a subpoena to find out what Google and ASUS knew about the color temperature slash calibration or lack their of, and when they knew it. I smell class action down the road. No way its just not right so many units coming out so differently.
Not only color, but I've noticed noticeable differences in brightness between the 3 I've gotten for RMAs. This new one gets darker and brighter than the previous one.
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Mine is pretty much spot on, Except for Blue Links tend to be on the purple side of Blue, enough to start a few threads and ask some questions but definitely not warrant a return.
One thing I have its noticed is that its nice bright and vibrant not at all "washed out" as other have reported. But When I go into Display Brightness, (never Auto brightness) when I move the slider I have like 8 or more different levels of Low brightness below the the Halfway Mark so I can really pick to my licking how low I want the brightness, even on the lowest it maybe too bright for reading a book in a dark room.
But above the halfway mark of brightness I only get about 4 or 5 Steps Up to Max brightness, The last inch or more on the slider toward MAx brightness does nothing. So in essence I reach Max brightness well before the slider is maxed out.
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Mine is pretty much spot on, Except for Blue Links tend to be on the purple side of Blue, enough to start a few threads and ask some questions but definitely not warrant a return.
One thing I have its noticed is that its nice bright and vibrant not at all "washed out" as other have reported. But When I go into Display Brightness, (never Auto brightness) when I move the slider I have like 8 or more different levels of Low brightness below the the Halfway Mark so I can really pick to my licking how low I want the brightness, even on the lowest it maybe too bright for reading a book in a dark room.
But above the halfway mark of brightness I only get about 4 or 5 Steps Up to Max brightness, The last inch or more on the slider toward MAx brightness does nothing. So in essence I reach Max brightness well before the slider is maxed out.
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That is very strange indeed. My brightness slider doesn't exhibit this-it is linear throughout it's range and the lowest brightness setting is quite dim, perfect for reading at night.
XDA developer Supercurio has an app called screen tuning for the Samsung 10.1 that I loved that changed the white temperature, which I believe is the issue. I think an app like this would help significantly.
Its also been said that the nvidia chip settings causes screen wash out after videos or heavy gaming. Its a battery saving measure while watching video or gaming but persists afterwards when it shouldn't. There's an app around here for that. Nut I'm after a color correction.
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XDA developer Supercurio has an app called screen tuning for the Samsung 10.1 that I loved that changed the white temperature, which I believe is the issue. I think an app like this would help significantly.
Its also been said that the nvidia chip settings causes screen wash out after videos or heavy gaming. Its a battery saving measure while watching video or gaming but persists afterwards when it shouldn't. There's an app around here for that. Nut I'm after a color correction.
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The screen tuning app can only be used with AMOLED screens, which the Nexus 7 doesn't have.
I have this annoying yellow tint on my S4's screen, but disappears when the phone is tilted over 45 degrees. Is this faulty ? Shall I return it ? Or is there a way I can fix the gamma through an app without rooting the phone ?
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I have this too, interested if this is a defect or just the colour tone of the amoled on the gs4
I have the S2 and it's blue compared to my display on computer, and I don't even notice it unless I put it against the computer display like you did.
Maybe try other display calibration, I hear you can change them.
Ok, been doing some google research on this -
There's always going to be a slight yellow tint to the particular amoled screen used in the GS4. However, to reduce the effect, set your screen mode to MOVIE.
Movie mode provides the best colour accuracy and also white point of the available choices. I can confirm this is the case having just spent a few minutes comparing colour charts to my girlfriend's very well-calibrated iphone 5.
So I would set it to MOVIE. The whites still won't be IPS display white, but then IPS can't touch the beautiful blacks on amoled. Horses for courses. Hope this helps.
@paddlyaz can you provide sources of where you got this info ? -- Edit : I just tried it, all that did was make the display washed off..Yellow tint still visible
It may LOOK washed out to you - but this is an AMOLED display, which is naturally very colour saturated.
If you compare the gs4 to an iphone 5 like I did just now, you'll see that even in Movie mode, the colours are a little MORE saturated than even the iphone 5 has to offer. The tint is a side-effect of this. IPS displays like the iphone may offer truer whites but amoled displays like the gs4 destroy them in terms of saturation and black levels.
It all depends on what you prefer on a phone.
In terms of the GS4, some people find the 'dynamic' and 'standard' modes vibrant and eye-pleasing - but they're not at all accurate and will exaggerated, innaccurate representations of your photos, videos etc. I have one photo of me in a yellow jumper (fashion mistake I know). When I have it on 'standard' it looks like I just came back from a two week holiday in Chernobyl. In movie mode, it looks exactly how it looks in real-life (i.e. still disgusting but accurate).
Here are a couple of links that describe it more:
http://www.gsmarena.com/displaymate_tests_galaxy_s4_screen_gives_it_the_thumbs_up-news-5928.php
http://gizmodo.com/5995376/galaxy-s-iv-display-shoot+out-how-does-it-compare
I wish I have another camera to show you the difference between my iPhone and S4 ... The iPhone's screen is bright white compared to the yellow tint on my S4. If this is a "feature" then it's not really efficient now is it =\
Maybe there is a way I can manually edit the gamma, this should fix the problem I guess. Or just exchange it for another one.
did you read ANY of my post?!
It's the trade off you pay for having perfect black levels and saturated colours.
The only way you're ever going to see perfect whites is if you get an iphone/htc one - e.g. an IPS display.
But then you're going to be stuck with 'blacks' that are actually grey. And that SUCKS.
People have differing opinions on which trade-off they'd rather have. Personally I'll take a slightly 'warmer' screen in return for having deep, inky blacks.
Hmm I see, so the display type is the reason why the yellow tint appears eh ? Interesting, thanks for the links too, going to check them out.
all screens will be slightly different from each other - but yes, amoled screens will almost always have either a slight YELLOW tint, or a slight BLUE tint - in other words, a slight exaggeration of one particular tone. If you have the time, do a google search and you'll see this was a common 'issue' flagged up on both the gs3 and gs2.
Your best bet is to do the following:
-set screen mode to MOVIE
-disable 'auto adjust screen tone'
-disable auto brightness.
You will never EVER see perfect whites on an amoled screen, and anyone who tells you they have them is lying out of their arse. Most reviews for the GS4 and also in the articles I linked you state that the GS4 is the most accurate amoled screen so far though.
If still disappointed, your best bet is the iphone5/htc one/nexus 4 etc
I think having an exaggerated blue tone is better than a yellow tone, in my own opinion.
Anyone else having this issue ?
I noticed this playing around with the S4 in the store. Still, much better than the S3 white point.
bad yellow tint
Hi everyone,
I received my s4 last week and found it yellowish as well. I have read everything regarding the screen yellow tint and the fact that it's because of the type of screen. I was going to give up but my girlfriend got one today as well and the comparison is very clear: her whites are so much better!
I have tried to take photos of them, and it looks greenish on the shots but you can see the difference. FYI the screen are both using the same settings: auto brightness off, brightness at the maximum, both screen mode in adapt display (I have tried the movie mode without noticing a change).
Mine is on the right if you couldn't see. You can clearly see the difference in the colour and the quality of the screen. I also noticed that the viewing angle are way worse on mine, the phone takes a greenish colour.
Finally I have very strong smearing/ghosting as soon as the screen background is black. For example when I am in the settings, if I scroll up and down, the thin lines separating the sections actually disappear whilst the menu scrolls. The thicker separator get a purple line until the scolling stops. Once again, the smearing on my girlfriend's phone is existant but much less strong. The thin separators are still visible even while the phone is scrolling.
I am definitely bringing it back to the store tomorrow. I am very disappointed with the screen even though the phone is great. I wouldn't change for a One, just for a good one.
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Hi everyone,
I received my s4 last week and found yellowish as well. I have read everything regarding the screen yellow tint and the fact that it's a because of the type of screen. I was going to give up but my girlfriend got one today as well and the comparison is very clear: her whites are so much better!
I have tried to take photos of them, and it looks greenish on the shots but you can see the difference. FYI the screen are both using the same settings: auto brightness off, brightness at the maximum, both screen mode in adapt display (I have tried the movie mode without noticing a change).
Mine is on the right if you couldn't see. You can clearly see the difference in the colour and the quality of the screen. I also noticed that the viewing angle are way worse on mine, the phone takes a greenish colour.
Finally I have very strong smearing/ghosting as soon as th screen background is black. For example when I am in the settings, when I scroll up and down, the thin line seperating the sections actually disappear whilst the menu scrolls. The thicker separator get a purple line until the scolling stops. Once again, the smearing on my girlfriend's phone is existant but much less strong. The thin separators are still visible even while the phone is scrolling.
I am definitely bringing it back to the store tomorrow. I am very disappointed with the screen even though the phone is great. I wouldn't change for a One, just for a good one.
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This is exactly my problem, let me know what happens with you !
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This is exactly my problem, let me know what happens with you !
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I had the same yellow tint on screen and tried a few different firmwares thinking maybe its a software issue but nothing fixed it.
Picked up a new s4 last night and this one is perfect. The thing I noticed is the new one is assenbled in Vietnam and the old one
was assembled in China. Over all the build quality on the new one feels much better along with audio quality.
Maybe a quality control issues in some factories
Cheers
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I had the same yellow tint on screen and tried a few different firmwares thinking maybe its a software issue but nothing fixed it.
Picked up a new s4 last night and this one is perfect. The thing I noticed is the new one is assenbled in Vietnam and the old one
was assembled in China. Over all the build quality on the new one feels much better along with audio quality.
Maybe a quality control issues in some factories
Cheers
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Where does it say the location of assembly ? I want to see where mine is. Also, did you exchange your phone for a new one ? How did you convince them it was faulty ?
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Where does it say the location of assembly ? I want to see where mine is. Also, did you exchange your phone for a new one ? How did you convince them it was faulty ?
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You'll see it when you pull the battery, there should be a sticker there.
I am located in Toronto and we dont have any samsung stores here
so i actually bought another one from this dealer i found on kijiji.
The new one was sealed and its from Hong Kong (but assembled in Vietnam)
Cheers
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You'll see it when you pull the battery, there should be a sticker there.
I am located in Toronto and we dont have any samsung stores here
so i actually bought another one from this dealer i found on kijiji.
The new one was sealed and its from Hong Kong (but assembled in Vietnam)
Cheers
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I looked at mine and it says made in Vietnam... But I would agree to say that there is a problem with quality control overall. My guess is that they need to produce as much as possible to avoid any shortage. I had the same problem with my Note 1 and could be bothered to change it, this time I won't let it go.
I will keep you posted.
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I looked at mine and it says made in Vietnam... But I would agree to say that there is a problem with quality control overall. My guess is that they need to produce as much as possible to avoid any shortage. I had the same problem with my Note 1 and could be bothered to change it, this time I won't let it go.
I will keep you posted.
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I had to go to another branch and thankfully they had a model with a white tone screen. I compared it there and they did indeed see the yellow-tone in my phone. I am getting a refund soon, it's not really worth all this trouble i'm fed up of the customer service experience with Samsung.
I created this thread specifically for all the members to talk about the new 2k screen of the LG G3. The screen is the most important feature of the LG G3 and it is what LG brags about the most. For many of us including me, the screen will be the deciding factor of whether we buy the phone or not.How does the new 2k display panel perform in real life situations compared to other high end phone display panels like the Galaxy S5 or HTC One M8? Let's have a nice dedicated thread to the most important feature on this phone.
Ideas to talk about:
•Contrast levels
•How your content looks on it
•Your thoughts of it compared to the previous display you had.
•Any weird issues? (Screen interlacing, ghost issues)
•Color production
•Do you find it nice and worthwhile?
•How are those BLACK LEVELS (Important!)
•Any heat issues with the screen?
•Good high and low brightness levels?
All of the above... Thinking of upgrading from a nexus 5...
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I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!
Spewy1 said:
I have seen a couple of reviews that say the max brightness is quite dim. Can someone who owns one confirm if this is true?
The G2 has the best display I have ever had and I don't want to downgrade to a duller screen (I am not bothered about the high res as the G2 has enough res. I want bright and vibrant!
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Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)
And ffs please, reviewers, don't simply declare that you can't distinguish individual pixels on 1080p as well as 2k and then conclude from that that the extra resolution doesn't make a difference. The question is: how do you subjectively experience visual items in 2k vs. 1080p--images, text, UI items, etc.. Past 325 dpi, a pixel is not an item, so it's irrelevant that you can't see one. Tons of those online reviews provide what the reviewer thinks their impression of the screen must be instead of the reviewer providing their true impression.
Canard caché said:
Go to s5 ^^ it's too bright and too vibrant :laugh: (^^)
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I don't like the s5. Various reasons but mainly the cover over the charging port and overall design.
I love my g2 but need more memory (64gb minimum). I am worried about the screen on the g3 but the reviewers all focus on the resolution but I want to hear from real users about the real world experience of the screen.
Many thanks in advance for any input from owners of the phone.
Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/
That cover on the S5 (my wife has one), is for water proofing and easily ripped off.
Personally, I could use a screen with less pixels and longer screen-on time. I consider the screen resolution to be a minus. My preference is less pixels and make it a 6", like the HTC One Max I just returned after a week.
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Great Arstechica review as usual
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/
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Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
Even at point-blank range, it's hard to resolve a single pixel. 1080p screens are also beautiful, though, and when looking at the two, side-by-side, we aren't convinced the jump to 1440p is necessary. More pixels only matter if you can see them, and on a ~5-inch device, it's almost impossible to tell the difference between a 1080p screen and the 1440p screen of the G3.
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That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.
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Can't agree with you there. They did the same move as all the other reviewers where they presume that the inability to distinguish individual pixels automatically means people can't see any overall difference in image quality:
That's why I asked above that any reviewers here avoid that particular groupthink and tell us how they actually experience 2k vs. 1080p.
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I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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How can you?
theraker007 said:
I think the most important caveat is that hardly any apps will be optimized for 2k display when the phone finally arrives.
HAving said that, kind of hard to judge don't you think?
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That's logical. But so is the idea that the human eye can't distinguish pixels at a density greater than 326dpi. So, yeah, it comes down to subjective judgment calls. In that case, I'm interested in the subjective point of view of people who actually have one of these devices and their actual experience. We already know how do deduce logically what everyone's experience must be, and all the reviews I've read only do that. Images and text may appear sharper at a given distance from the eye in a way unrelated to whether or not you can distinguish an individual pixel.
The LG G3 has the best smartphone display I've seen: It's sharp, but it's also bright and has great color. The colors don't pop quite as much as on some of the better SuperAMOLED screens I've seen (such as on the just-announced Samsung Galaxy Tab S), but the sharpness is off the charts.
Comparing the G3's display to the one on the HTC One M8 (my current favorite Android phone), I felt the LG's was just as sharp, and a few details — such as drop shadows in Evernote — stood out slightly more. And even though colors weren't as vivid as on the HTC, the G3 had more natural skin tones
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From Mashable's review. Everyone's eyes are different I guess.
Contrast was superb. Black text on white background — one of the most essential things a smartphone, or any display, needs to get right — really stood out. The ultra-sharp characters nearly jumped off the screen, and I couldn't discern individual pixels, no matter how close I put my eye to the screen.
So the LG G3's Quad HD display is more than just hype. But only a bit. There's nothing wrong with the HTC One M8's screen — or the Samsung Galaxy S5's or the iPhone 5S's for that matter. They're still mighty sharp, and can display great images, just not quite as sharply or as impressively as the LG G3.
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hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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I truly hope that the screen is great on this phone but I can't wait any longer and have just ordered an S5. I have waited for all the flagships to come out this year and was truly hoping that the G3 would be the one. Two of the most important things to me are brightness and battery life and I'm worried that with the G3 I would end up having the brightness cranked all the time and would have poor battery life as a result. Really wanted to try LG this time but lost my nerve
Tapped it!
hamad138 said:
Contrast and black levels are bad , i can garantee u that
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Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.
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Seriously? Those are much more important then resolution to improve upon.
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yes but not for marketing.
I'm most concerned with the viewing angles, black levels, contrast, and color accuracy. I'm definitely getting the G3 but I really don't want to have to play the panel lottery. I'd prefer a warmer display over a cooler display - as long as it's not noticeably pink/green/blue, I'm fine. A slight yellow/orange tint is okay, but obviously a calibrated display would be the best. My black Nexus 5's viewing angles aren't great, with the screen washing out at 30+ degree angle. My buddy's white Nexus 5 seems to have better viewing angles, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I'm pretty confident in LG's ability to produce good displays -- they pretty much made this phone just to show off their new display.
Actually, I'm now concerned about the narrowness of the bezel. Yes, it's a cool feature, and everyone dreams of a bezel-less phone, but I already have problems due to the narrowness of my S4's bezel. When I'm holding my phone for an extended time, referring to notes while speaking to people, my grip often gets interpreted by the system as a touch and hold. That pops up a dialog that I have to dismiss, and it's really obtrusive in real time situations. Sure, I could be more careful, but it's just too easy to make that problem happen during normal usage. It's not like I have big fat hands or a weird grip or anything. I've already been thinking that when we finally get bezel-free phones, there will have to be utilities to create a non-reactive border of pixels in a user-specified width, or else the user will accidentally be popping things up all over the place. At present, though, I think the G3's large size and tiny bezel are actually going to make it difficult to use the way I want to use it even though it's hardly bigger than my S4. You never know until you actually use it for a few days and try to adapt, but there's no way to do that without buying it, which I'm now hesitant to do.
You're holding it wrong ☺
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Now that we have our first custom kernel available (Thanks @flar2). We can now adjust the display color settings on the 5X. This will come in VERY handy for those who feel that the screen on their 5X is too yellow. It will also allow you to make tweaks to saturation, contrast, etc. to correct the lackluster color depth that the factory settings provide.
There are plenty of app options for performing these tweaks, but the two below are confirmed to be currently working on the 5X:
KCal Color Control (XDA Link)
EX Kernel Manager (Play Store Link)
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EDIT: It turns out I had a bad device with a yellow tinted display. I've since RMA'd it for one with a MUCH whiter display. So the below color settings won't be ideal for those who did get a good screen on their device.
**Comparison pics of the old screen vs new screen in post #35
Color calibrations used with my previous (yellow display) 5X. If you have a yellower display, these will be good for you:
Red: 235
Green: 245
Blue: 256
Saturation: 50
Value: 130
Contrast: 130
I've spent some time calibrating my new, much whiter screen. They are very close to the settings szucsgf mentioned below in the comments with some more saturation:
Red: 246
Green: 250
Blue: 256
Saturation: 50
Value: 130
Contrast: 130
Feel free to post your results so we can compile some of the best settings here.
Thanks for posting this! How did you pick your values? Did you compare to a calibrated color chart, like the kind used by photographers? Or did you use a colorimeter?
I just eye balled it with the phone sitting next to my iPhone 6S and color calibrated Nexus 6. I was able to eliminate the yellow hue completely and make the blacks much deeper. I know other members here use colorimeters and other tools for more accurate adjustment, so I imagine in time they will chime in with much better calibrations. But for now, my settings are a good starting point to at least eliminate the yellow (warm) hue the screen has by default.
sn0warmy said:
I just eye balled it with the phone sitting next to my iPhone 6S and color calibrated Nexus 6. I was able to eliminate the yellow hue completely and make the blacks much deeper. I know other members here use colorimeters and other tools for more accurate adjustment, so I imagine in time they will chime in with much better calibrations. But for now, my settings are a good starting point to at least eliminate the yellow (warm) hue the screen has by default.
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Thanks for the explanation iphones do tend to be calibrated pretty well, but eyeballing it isn't the most accurate method. It'll help get the color balance, but probably not the white, black, or grey points.
As a photographer, I'm actually pretty happy with the warmth in the screen. I find most monitors and phones to be super cool (blue) and that they make my photos look way worse than the originals.
Nice eye ball settings! Looking forward to comparing yours to more "scientific" numbers
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I just eye balled it with the phone sitting next to my iPhone 6S and color calibrated Nexus 6. I was able to eliminate the yellow hue completely and make the blacks much deeper. I know other members here use colorimeters and other tools for more accurate adjustment, so I imagine in time they will chime in with much better calibrations. But for now, my settings are a good starting point to at least eliminate the yellow (warm) hue the screen has by default.
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iphones are calibrated with a white point around 7000-7200K, which is slightly blue. While many find that visually appealing, it's not quite 'accurate.' 6500K is the target for an accurate white point and phonearena measured the 5x at a white point of 6799K. I've found that while the screen may not look as cool when next to other phones, pictures on the 5x look damn good
I think some issues with 'yellow' screens may have more to do with panels having brightness problems
I presume root is needed for both of the apps?
What's the best way to do this without root? Recommend an app?
XPERIA Z5 GREEN
Root is absolutely required.
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I presume root is needed for both of the apps?
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Root is required to flash a kernel that allows for these color calibrations. So, in turn, root is also required to use the apps required to make these adjustments.
Jooosty said:
What's the best way to do this without root? Recommend an app?
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If you don't want to root, there are apps you can use to apply an overlay on the screen to eliminate the yellow (warm) hue.
One app I used previously is:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netmanslab.sa
With that app I found that if you leave everything as is and just turn Blue up +10 - +15 it eliminates the warm hue. However, this is simply adding a layer of blue and not truly calibrating the screen. So I still recommend, to those who want to do it right, that you root and use a custom recovery to properly calibrate the screen.
It's actually quite annoying that Google doesn't allow people to make these calibrations in stock configuration without rooting, but that's a whole different topic.
sn0warmy said:
Now that we have our first custom kernel available (Thanks @flar2). We can now adjust the display color settings on the 5X. This will come in VERY handy for those who feel that the screen on their 5X is too yellow. It will also allow you to make tweaks to saturation, contrast, etc. to correct the lackluster color depth that the factory settings provide.
There are plenty of app options for performing these tweaks, but the below two are confirmed to be currently working on the 5X:
KCal Color Control (XDA Link)
EX Kernel Manager (Play Store Link)
I'm currently using the following settings, which mimic the display on my iPhone 6S nicely, while being just a hint more "warm" to make it easier on the eyes.
Red: 235
Green: 245
Blue: 256
Saturation: 50
Value: 130
Contrast: 130
Feel free to post your results so we can compile some of the best settings here.
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Hey your colors are pretty nice! I like the whiter look on the phone and this is good. Will be using it for some time, thanks!
I notice the OP mentions the yellow-ish tint on the display. Google is actually replacing for this particular issue- My first 5X had an issue with the receiver so call quality sucked and the one I just got in the mail has a very warm hue to it, between red and yellow and after a phone call they are sending me another one.
Can anyone with a color sensor/calibrator calibrate for true white?
True white according to the sensor is usually a lot more yellow than people are used to. I know where are values out for my computer monitor and I was surprised.
I think for the most part, my Nexus 5x is closer to true white than the really cool whites that my M7 had. Though it's warmer than true white on comparison.
I might be try comparing the two and color calibrating based on comparison of whites to my monitor. (My monitor has color calibration settings based on the same model. I do not have my own color colorimeter, it's not worth it since I don't do any kind of media work)
Edit - I didn't end up installing the kernel because I wanted to keep systemless root, and I don't think that was included with the boot.img
However, I do have CF Lumen working and I used the color filter to acheive (reasonably/humanly) close results.
CF Lumen uses a color filter in from 0-1, where 1 represents 100% of the respective RGB value and 0 filters out all of the respective color. Since the colors are appearing anywhere from yellow to more orange-ish hue, I set R to .969 and G to .929 with B at 1.. You can translate that to the results you want in color control by multiplying these decimals with the maximum possible value ( For example R should be 256 * .969) The increment of change isn't as fine as I'd like, but what are you gonna do, it's just a phone. Most phones don't even come close to true white anyway.
I want to also note that your results will vary, probably. These are values for my phone. They're a good starting point. There seems to be reports of huge variations of yellow screens, with some people (placebo? eyes getting used to it) saying it has resolved over a week or two.
Again, most people used to default LED/LCD screen white will even think this calibration is too yellow. Colorimeter calibrations always calibrate for the accepted true white, and therefore will seem warmer than what most people are used to, which is a very cool white. As long as your eyes are happy, there's really no issue I guess. However, I would like to point out that true white is really a lot easier on the eyes than the cooler white that most phones have these days. Blue colors to the eyes seem to "scatter" more and human vision has a harder time focusing with bluer colors. On the other hand if things become to warm, it becomes hard to distinguish things from one another. That's why at night time, or dark conditions, CF lumen is set to warmer colors because at night time vision in the eye has much less ability to contrast and distinguish, and relies more on things like outlines, and movement. (How many times were you driving at night and didn't realize something (deer!) was there until it moved?) Bluer light (most scientifically it's Green, but blue does a good job too) activates cones, and shuts down night vision, blue light is perceived to scatter more and is harder to look at the screen at night, while retaining night vision.
if i install the custom kernel and calibrate the screen, then restore to stock kernel does the screen remain calibrated?
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if i install the custom kernel and calibrate the screen, then restore to stock kernel does the screen remain calibrated?
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Zach1928 said:
I notice the OP mentions the yellow-ish tint on the display. Google is actually replacing for this particular issue- My first 5X had an issue with the receiver so call quality sucked and the one I just got in the mail has a very warm hue to it, between red and yellow and after a phone call they are sending me another one.
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You're talking about something completely different. Nexus devices are known for having a warmer (yellower) hue right out of the box due to lack of display color calibration. Unfortunately, with the 5X, some people are receiving phones with excessively yellow displays. In those cases, Google is replacing those defective devices. This thread is referring to color calibration for screens that are not defective as they still tend to have a warmer hue to them. Some prefer the warmer hue, some don't. That's why this thread exists so people can refer to it to calibrate their screen to their liking. There is no "one size fits all" solution.
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Nope.
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thanks, so the screen calibration is managed by the kernel then.
then with the custom kernel installed, what happens with updates? do OTA updates still work?
electric0ant said:
thanks, so the screen calibration is managed by the kernel then.
then with the custom kernel installed, what happens with updates? do OTA updates still work?
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The screen calibration is managed by the app. But the custom kernel allows for this calibration. If you uninstall the app and reboot the phone, your screen calibration will go back to factory settings.
As far as non-color calibration related questions (such as root and OTAs) please take that to another thread or feel free to PM me. I'm afraid this thread is getting side tracked very fast and I'd like to keep it on topic with comments regarding color calibration tweaking.
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Nope.
You're talking about something completely different. Nexus devices are known for having a warmer (yellower) hue right out of the box due to lack of display color calibration. Unfortunately, with the 5X, some people are receiving phones with excessively yellow displays. In those cases, Google is replacing those defective devices. This thread is referring to color calibration for screens that are not defective as they still tend to have a warmer hue to them. Some prefer the warmer hue, some don't. That's why this thread exists so people can refer to it to calibrate their screen to their liking. There is no "one size fits all" solution.
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Interesting. All I know is the replacement I got is night and day from the first one and Google is replacing it (didn't even require the picture I took of the two). 3 people I sent it to commented on the difference between the two, favoring the first one.
Zach1928 said:
Interesting. All I know is the replacement I got is night and day from the first one and Google is replacing it (didn't even require the picture I took of the two). 3 people I sent it to commented on the difference between the two, favoring the first one.
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You got pretty lucky then, there are reports of people getting replacements and the color hue was worse. There really wasn't any control checks with the display color calibration in this case.
Big disappointment.
formula91 said:
You got pretty lucky then, there are reports of people getting replacements and the color hue was worse. There really wasn't any control checks with the display color calibration in this case.
Big disappointment.
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Fingers crossed I get a better one, I really like the phone. At least they aren't pulling a OnePlus and insisting a) you're crazy or b) it's supposed to be piss-yellow. Haven't spent more than 15 minutes on the phone with them in either case