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helping picking headunit joying JY-UL135 vs Erisin ES3646U

here the two radio I am Looking at
joying JY-UL135
SKU: JY-UL134
. Quad Core Android 5.1.1 Lollipop OS Capacitive 10.1" Big Touch screen for Double Din
. CPU: RK3188 1.6GHz Cortex A9 Quad Core, Resolution 1024*600
. RAM：DDR3 1G, 16 GB memory, Black Color
. 9 EQ Equalizer for music
. Support steering wheel control, OBD2
. Built-in GPS navigation, support Google maps, Waze, Sygic, TomTom, Here maps
. Support 9 & more Color Panel Lights
. Bulit-in WiFi, Support 3G/4G/Wifi hotspot sharing, Support 3G Only WCDMA network
. Bulit-in Bluetooth for hand free phone call, Support1080P
. Support car DVR
. Airplay for iPhone 6/6 plus/5/5c/5S/4/4S
. PAL and NTSC Support Rear view camera
. Wireless Screen Mirroring Function( Android phone and iPhone)
. Thickened alumium heat sink and strong unit design
. Built-in Google play store, Apps for Uber...Google Voice
. USB, Auxiliary Input, No SD card.
. FM / AM RDS Radio Data System, Subwoofer, Free External Mic, Free GPS antenna
Erisin ES3646U
Has anyone used this head unit or any review or bad issues with them they look about the same specs
any info would much appreciated

i dont have either, but i like the look of the Joying one better

I got the Joying UL 135 with Lollipop 5.1.1 just installed.
It was a super-easy installation as my old Toyota 4Runner from 2000 had ISO cables installed earlier. Plug&Play!
I have not found anything not working except that I don't know how to clear Bluetooth devices from the list of ones I have once connected and the Bluetooth OBD2 plug is shown as connected even hours after I have unplugged it.
The device is ROOT'ed when it comes.
Android reports: Android 5.1.1, Rk3188 quad core 32 bit @ 1608Mhz, Model 2820H-5.1 J0513, MCU MTCD_JY_V1.49_2 April 28 2016
AnTuTu 3D 6.1.7
Noise in speakers during graphic test. Sounded like a GSM pone disturbance.
Results:
Overall 26479
3D 1117
User Experience 12459
Cpu 9841
Ram 3062

Hey,
I would love to see a photo of your install. I'm currently researching what to do for a 2002 Tacoma (same stereo layout and bezel). I was worried that the curved edges of the bezel would be an issue - was it an easy install for you?
Thanks!!

windsplash said:
Hey,
I would love to see a photo of your install. I'm currently researching what to do for a 2002 Tacoma (same stereo layout and bezel). I was worried that the curved edges of the bezel would be an issue - was it an easy install for you?
Thanks!!
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I've just installed one in a 2007 grand Cherokee. Does anyone know what makes/models of USB 3G/4G dongles work with this unit?
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I've just installed one in a 2007 grand Cherokee. Does anyone know what makes/models of USB 3G/4G dongles work with this unit?View attachment 3800399
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What is under SD/GPS symbols in left-bottom corner? Producer (JOYING) says "No SD card support"...

szastox said:
What is under SD/GPS symbols in left-bottom corner? Producer (JOYING) says "No SD card support"...
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Just 2 SD card slots. I have a 32GB in the GPS slot and a 64GB in the other.
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I have a 2013 Durango with the base model 130S/RES base stereo. I've been looking at options to upgrade it as I want something with Navigation built in. Wonder if I'll need anything special to wire this up.

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I have a 2013 Durango with the base model 130S/RES base stereo. I've been looking at options to upgrade it as I want something with Navigation built in. Wonder if I'll need anything special to wire this up.
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130 sounds like a Jeep radio. Chrysler used the same 130/430/730 for Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep for many years.
I had a 430N and replaced it with a Joying jeep specific unit and I love it:
https://smile.amazon.com/Challenger...F8&qid=1471862795&sr=8-1&keywords=joying+jeep
probably would work in the Durango

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I've just installed one in a 2007 grand Cherokee. Does anyone know what makes/models of USB 3G/4G dongles work with this unit?View attachment 3800399
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Hey, was wondering what your thoughts are on the buttons and the volume knob? I see your unit is recessed a little, just wondering if those controls are easy enough to use?
I have an 06 Civic SI that I'm looking to get one of these for, and that's one of my main concerns. I really like having hardware volume controls.

kamikaze2112 said:
Hey, was wondering what your thoughts are on the buttons and the volume knob? I see your unit is recessed a little, just wondering if those controls are easy enough to use?
I have an 06 Civic SI that I'm looking to get one of these for, and that's one of my main concerns. I really like having hardware volume controls.
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HI,
The volume knob is just a rotary encoder which is monitored by the OS so it's implemented in software although the user interface is a piece of physical hardware.
Why are you concerned about this? I don't even use it, I just use the steering wheel controls.
https://youtu.be/9yq4TC5xbhA

pelle900gli said:
I have not found anything not working except that I don't know how to clear Bluetooth devices from the list of ones I have once connected and the Bluetooth OBD2 plug is shown as connected even hours after I have unplugged it.
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It has to be fitted to be able to delete it from the list.

Yes, I had this issue too until the last software update. Things seem to be a bit quicker and smoother too.
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tickertapes said:
HI,
The volume knob is just a rotary encoder which is monitored by the OS so it's implemented in software although the user interface is a piece of physical hardware.
Why are you concerned about this? I don't even use it, I just use the steering wheel controls.
https://youtu.be/9yq4TC5xbhA
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Steering wheel controls are fine until you've got the wheel turned. i don't know, just like to be able to reach over without looking and spin a volume knob. just a personal preference.

kamikaze2112 said:
Steering wheel controls are fine until you've got the wheel turned. i don't know, just like to be able to reach over without looking and spin a volume knob. just a personal preference.
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i too like to have a volume knob. I use my steering wheel controls, but i also frequently use the knob

Okay, well it's there. The volume can be controlled via the steering wheel, the volume knob and vis the touch screen. A momentary press of the volume knob mutes the system, and 2-3 second press will shut the system down.
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Hi,
I have got the carjoying UL 135 too and I am pretty satisfied.
Nevertheless, sometime I experience incredibly slow operations. When it comes, I have to wait many seconds (10 or 20) when I launch an app like Waze in a way that I can utilize as expected. I use the Rocket icon to clear operating but it is the same. I think 1 GB is not enough.
Have you experienced this?

Extremely Weird Radio Issue on Funrover Head Unit

Hi all,
I've bought this unit for my Mazda CX-7 and had it professionally installed - it ran fine for a while and I was very happy with it.
A rather weird issue developed - on this unit the FM radio starts automatically when you turn on the ignition (there doesn't seem to be a way around this) and when the Radio App is running, I can hear the radio fine, and if I start another app such as Google Maps as long as the radio is running I can hear sounds normally. However if I manually exit the radio or if an app takes over audio (say Spotify for instance) the head unit goes completely silent, only to be revived again when I reload the Radio app. This of course makes the head unit useless for music and bluetooth as as soon as any of these apps are loaded the unit goes silent.
On the manufacturer's advice I reset the CANBUS settings and verified with them that the CANBUS was set right for my make and model of car - still the same result. Tried all CANBUS settings that even mentioned Mazda, no luck.
I really don't know how to start trouble shooting this - I have been provided four different firmwares by the manufacturer all of which exhibit the same issue which indicates to me it may be an underlying hardware issue?
Just a quick dump from my 'About Device' if that assists at all. Any help/suggestions greatly appreciated, any relevant logs or files will be quickly gathered and posted
Android Version
8.0
CPU Info
CPU: Intel ATOM 4QuadCore(x86), GPU4D Mali 450 MP4, X86
Baseband version
SF3GR_M-26.3_cpeg_rk-r2p_bc2-20160629_111639
System Info
APP 1024x600 2018-06-06 22:50:08
MCU Version
2018-06-02 12:16:25 FAD_(R76)_90_D1_V1.0_CAN(All)_AMP
CAN Version
Unknown
Car Application
Car Application Information
Serial number
00000000

carburngood said:
A rather weird issue developed - on this unit the FM radio starts automatically when you turn on the ignition (there doesn't seem to be a way around this) and when the Radio App is running, I can hear the radio fine, and if I start another app such as Google Maps as long as the radio is running I can hear sounds normally. However if I manually exit the radio or if an app takes over audio (say Spotify for instance) the head unit goes completely silent, only to be revived again when I reload the Radio app. This of course makes the head unit useless for music and bluetooth as as soon as any of these apps are loaded the unit goes silent.
On the manufacturer's advice I reset the CANBUS settings and verified with them that the CANBUS was set right for my make and model of car - still the same result. Tried all CANBUS settings that even mentioned Mazda, no luck.
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That the radio starts on these units on reboot can't be changed. It is a hardware "feature". The radio chip and AMP-chip are "awake" before Android is even running. That is why you hear the radio after cold boot. And for your convenience the radio app is also started, but that is only a front-end that allows you to either enjoy and control the radio(-chip) or switch it off.
I don't think the CAN-bus has anything to do with this behavior, but I can be wrong.
I think that when you switch off the radio, also the AMP is switched off, or maybe even disabled.
If you switch off the radio, can you check in your Settings whether the AMP is still enabled? And maybe play/try a few things?

surfer63 said:
That the radio starts on these units on reboot can't be changed. It is a hardware "feature". The radio chip and AMP-chip are "awake" before Android is even running. That is why you hear the radio after cold boot. And for your convenience the radio app is also started, but that is only a front-end that allows you to either enjoy and control the radio(-chip) or switch it off.
I don't think the CAN-bus has anything to do with this behavior, but I can be wrong.
I think that when you switch off the radio, also the AMP is switched off, or maybe even disabled.
If you switch off the radio, can you check in your Settings whether the AMP is still enabled? And maybe play/try a few things?
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The amp is still enabled in the car settings app if that's what you mean? Or are you thinking more on the hardware side?

carburngood said:
The amp is still enabled in the car settings app if that's what you mean? Or are you thinking more on the hardware side?
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What I meant is if you switch Amp off (no Amp) and then back to the value it had, and then try spotify or whatever.
Just a guess.

surfer63 said:
What I meant is if you switch Amp off (no Amp) and then back to the value it had, and then try spotify or whatever.
Just a guess.
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Thanks, gave that a go but no luck any other thoughts ?

Anyone else? Any logs or anything I can provide that may be useful?

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Is the manufacturer not willing to replace it?

No they're not

I have the same problem. The radio worked without any problem until I made the factory reset ( wifi wont work ) and from then on I have only the sound from fm radio app.

Hi there, changing this setting worked for me - for me I had to choose RZC and RZC.AMP but try a few MCU upgrades in this setting and see what works for your vehicle.
I also found the Funrover guys to be very communicative so try contacting them directly - as part of the trouble shooting process they provided me a couple of firmware updates - including putting one together especially for me based on the issues I was experiencing.
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it does not work with me. I tried all the mcu options, I updated device using the software drovided by funrower, there is still no sound via mp3, bluetooth or video, only radio. MCU i think seted correctly because I have working steering wheel controls or mazda additional display... any other suggestions ??

Did you try all the MCU options with Mazda listed? I had to play around with a few and only RZC worked for me. If none of them work contact Funrover for their latest firmware and try the various Mazda MCU options.

New Funrover firmware ?
carburngood said:
Did you try all the MCU options with Mazda listed? I had to play around with a few and only RZC worked for me. If none of them work contact Funrover for their latest firmware and try the various Mazda MCU options.
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The CANBUS doesn't work correctly in a recent Funrover Android 8.1 installed in an Honda Accord 7 (recent firmware). I have test several type of CANBUS and there is nothing to do. On the other hand, I have read in another thread that there is identical issue with a Seicane Android 8.0 and a similar Honda car. Perhaps it is a problem related to Android 8.x version. I wait for a response from Funrover but I don't expect much.

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I also found the Funrover guys to be very communicative so try contacting them directly - as part of the trouble shooting process they provided me a couple of firmware updates - including putting one together especially for me based on the issues I was experiencing.
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Could you please share how to contact these guys? Is there a support email or something?

Hi all
Android 9.0 is out
Any of you installed latest firmware?
I have this head unit with android 8.0 for my kia sportage 2018
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/4cTppPHW

https://yadi.sk/d/UifaCXkWMhFmMg

Pacovich said:
New Funrover firmware ?
The CANBUS doesn't work correctly in a recent Funrover Android 8.1 installed in an Honda Accord 7 (recent firmware). I have test several type of CANBUS and there is nothing to do. On the other hand, I have read in another thread that there is identical issue with a Seicane Android 8.0 and a similar Honda car. Perhaps it is a problem related to Android 8.x version. I wait for a response from Funrover but I don't expect much.
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After that, I have selected XP - Toyota - RAV4 - xxxx16xxxx in my Accord 7 Executive and it works almost completely. State of buttons with LED inside are not shown or shown inverted in the emergent screen. Thus, If a button has LED, I observe its state, but, when a button hasn't a LED, I observe its state on the emergent screen. It's a little yam but it's the only solution I have found with this unit.
On the other hand, I have selected a vehicle in the "China" subgroup and the screen has begin to shown many a many CANBUS codes on the screen. It seems to be a debug option. But unfortunately, I hasn't been able to repeat the sequence in order to activate this mode another time. It ocurred a day when I have tested all vehicle models and I have selected them very quickly.

Pacovich said:
After that, I have selected XP - Toyota - RAV4 - xxxx16xxxx in my Accord 7 Executive and it works almost completely. State of buttons with LED inside are not shown or shown inverted in the emergent screen. Thus, If a button has LED, I observe its state, but, when a button hasn't a LED, I observe its state on the emergent screen. It's a little yam but it's the only solution I have found with this unit.
On the other hand, I have selected a vehicle in the "China" subgroup and the screen has begin to shown many a many CANBUS codes on the screen. It seems to be a debug option. But unfortunately, I hasn't been able to repeat the sequence in order to activate this mode another time. It ocurred a day when I have tested all vehicle models and I have selected them very quickly.
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After updating to Android 9.0, I have selected Honda Accord 7 and its emerging screen works fine. It seems that update solves the issue.
Android 9.0 firmware for funrover head unit
Hi all, I purchased this head unit with android 8.0 for my kia sportage 2018 https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/4cTppPHW I need to know if i can update it to android 9.0 firmware. Best regards to all
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Currently the BEST 2020 android head units?

Just got one of the Binize 7" 2x32 android 9 head units. Not really impressed with it so far.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VHD4B23/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also have one of the Podofo 7" 1x16 android 10 2020 versions. Screen looks the same but there are more connectors on the rear. It is much faster. Noticably to the touch. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GKBQ1X5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Are there some better units out there right now I should be looking at?
Really want a DUAL din and able to load offline maps to if for BackCountry Navigator, Google Maps, and a couple others. Maybe use one of my external USB Drives for music videos, music, and other movies.
I just modified the dash of a Discovery 1 to fit a dual din. Now I want a large screen to fit in there to utilize the space I made.
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They are all botched/buggy in someway, but it's not easy to know who makes these units and what they are just from the reseller verbiage.

Like the previous poster says. Pretty much every android head unit has issues. Each one is a different set of issues. Nobody out there seems to be doing proper reviews on these that focus on what does and doesn't work.
I've been through four so far. Every one has issues.
So I tried to switch to a Pioneer and guess what, it has issues too. I'm disgusted with the whole car audio industry. All I want is what's on my phone to be on my dash, without having to whip my phone out of my pocket and wire it up every time I go for a drive.
Apparently that's asking too much of the industry.
Fwiw the features I need/want are:
1. Supports modern digital steering wheel controls (they all seem to only support analog SWC which nobody has)
2. Either have a proper bluetooth phone feature with voice commands and quality audio OR trigger when it detects incoming audio on the aux in from my cars built in bluetooth (currently the best option I've found is I have to tap aux in every time I receive a call)
3. Pair and STAY paired with bluetooth OBD dongle for dashboard data logging. So far not a single one has been able to do this reliably, they tend to disconnect randomly and require constant re-pairing. Best if it supports newer profiles of dongles like the OBDLink which has a faster refresh rate, but so far only one of the four I've tried does that, and it requires repairing every bootup.
4. Have a screen DPI thay doesn't freak out common apps. Some of my apps don't work because of screen DPI issues on some devices.
5. Don't randomly reboot, 2 of the 4 devices I've used have this issue.
6. "Dancing" Gps or GPS that can't get a lock. One device I used the GPS jumps around randomly, the other can't even get a signal half the time.
7. Static/noise/audio problems. One has a hiss, one had loud static when no audio was playing, and another the audio would randomly cut out.
Dunno what I'm gonna do next.

skygear said:
Just got one of the Binize 7" 2x32 android 9 head units. Not really impressed with it so far.
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I'll tell ya.... I'm on my third android head unit (all Dasaita's) and I have not had one yet which produces good clean sound without a low grade white noise (the noise which you are describing). The Dasaita I have now in fact is top of the line... cost $700US and it has the same low grade white noise the rest of them do.
I love these android head units for what you describe.... large screen, good off line maps display, engine data display... yadda yadda. They make really great overall information centers, but they ALL seem to just suck for good clean sound.
At this point I'm really considering running two head units, a double din dasaita with a 10" screen for my information center, tv, videos... etc, and a smaller single din Pioneer or Kenwood for all the audio, and the bluetooth phone connection. This is the only answer that I can see if you want to run an android head unit.... and have clean sound at the same time.

I'd also Like a to have an actual readout of what ALL the connectors are for on the back. If I plug in ALL the connectors they sent. I still have 2 ports which are empty. I can imagine maybe one is for a Wired OBD2 port cable and maybe the others for Environmental controls or steering wheel interface? Wherever these are originating from, they are not including all the features with them. Might put an amplifier on these and see how they perform. The audio isn't the best..
Main issue I had was the Binize keyboard wouldn't show up. I had to factory reset the device to enable it. I am beta testing Android 11 on my Note 20 Ultra 5g. Had NO issues with it until I paired it with this radio. No keyboard would show on my phone either. then the screen froze on my phone. Next, my storage corrupted/ disappeared, then reappeared and the phone reindexed everything so all my media (photos, video, etc. ) is all out of order now since it re scanned.
I'm thinking a USB drive with all the content might be the way to go. But are these really limited to just 32gb external storage? Shouldn't these be able to read ANY external storage formatted properly?

skygear said:
I'd also Like a to have an actual readout of what ALL the connectors are for on the back. If I plug in ALL the connectors they sent. I still have 2 ports which are empty. I can imagine maybe one is for a Wired OBD2 port cable and maybe the others for
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The extra ports are a little different from machine to machine but Dasaita puts in extra ports for TV, TPMS, DAB, Dashcam, and auxiliary a/v input. You can take a wild guess at the what the inputs are judging by the software which comes on your machine. The dasaita line for example comes with a TV app, TPMS app, DAB apps, A/V in app, and a DashCam app.
Wired obd2 works through usb and will only work with apps (like torque pro) which support usb connections
For what it's worth... I already have (3) external amps connected. 850 watts to the front, 1000 watts to the rear, and 2250 watts to the subs. Still get that low grade white noise.

Bob_Sanders said:
The extra ports are a little different from machine to machine but Dasaita puts in extra ports for TV, TPMS, DAB, Dashcam, and auxiliary a/v input. You can take a wild guess at the what the inputs are judging by the software which comes on your machine. The dasaita line for example comes with a TV app, TPMS app, DAB apps, A/V in app, and a DashCam app.
Wired obd2 works through usb and will only work with apps (like torque pro) which support usb connections
For what it's worth... I already have (3) external amps connected. 850 watts to the front, 1000 watts to the rear, and 2250 watts to the subs. Still get that low grade white noise.
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Have you tried putting ground isolators on everything?
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Have you tried putting ground isolators on everything?
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It's not ground loop noise so ground isolators wouldn't do much. This is a low grade white noise like what you would hear from an FM radio when not on a station. Both my PX5 and PX6 have it. It's not very loud... but it's there.

Android 9.1 Stereo issues.. Need advice or firmware update to resolve?

Hello to all you wonderful people
Firstly thank you for taking the time to read and potentially help me resolve this issues. Here are the issues I am experiencing.
Vehicle 2006 X5 BMW 4.4i E53 (No hating on please I already know)
Unit 9"inch Chinese made Android 9.1 firmware. Not connected to aftermarket amplifier and no RCA Audio connect)
Android YT9213A_00009_V001_20200312
Android os 9.1 XY Auto:3.2 (8227L)
Can Pro 3.0 (8227L)
Cpu A7 1.3Hz x 4
MCU 3.1 (8227L)
1. Unit only produces sound when using the Radio (Front speakers only and No fade ability, left right or EQ)
2. I have set the Canbus to BMW but Steering Wheel Button Mapping is non functioning or recognising.
3. Updated software via units button and Wi-fi and still no change
4. Vehicle has a DSP amplifier aka Splits 2 channel signal into 6 channels
5. Has Bluetooth connectivity but does not pick up sound when on a call from within the car nor produces any sound when playing music tracks or video.
6. Struggles to play movie files (Wondering if it is just a file type issue - I use "mkv" file types normally "VLC player" )
7. Google maps produces no street name data and only shows directional lines and no turn information vocally.
Please note that the company I bought this off no longer replies to emails and wont engage in any form of help..
I am hoping that a raw firmware update to Android 10 or similar will fix most /all of these issues...if so I would need a link to the firmware file please - Plus if advised that RCA connects are the answer to the Sound issues maybe the answer.
If anyone has any advice I would be greatly appreciated

Head unit pic..
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Meatcleaver_101 said:
Hello to all you wonderful people
Firstly thank you for taking the time to read and potentially help me resolve this issues. Here are the issues I am experiencing.
Vehicle 2006 X5 BMW 4.4i E53 (No hating on please I already know)
Unit 9"inch Chinese made Android 9.1 firmware. Not connected to aftermarket amplifier and no RCA Audio connect)
Android YT9213A_00009_V001_20200312
Android os 9.1 XY Auto:3.2 (8227L)
Can Pro 3.0 (8227L)
Cpu A7 1.3Hz x 4
MCU 3.1 (8227L)
1. Unit only produces sound when using the Radio (Front speakers only and No fade ability, left right or EQ)
2. I have set the Canbus to BMW but Steering Wheel Button Mapping is non functioning or recognising.
3. Updated software via units button and Wi-fi and still no change
4. Vehicle has a DSP amplifier aka Splits 2 channel signal into 6 channels
5. Has Bluetooth connectivity but does not pick up sound when on a call from within the car nor produces any sound when playing music tracks or video.
6. Struggles to play movie files (Wondering if it is just a file type issue - I use "mkv" file types normally "VLC player" )
7. Google maps produces no street name data and only shows directional lines and no turn information vocally.
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If your BMW is anything like my jeep then number 4 is your problem. You have the factory premium sound (factory dsp amp)
Your factory amp only uses 2 channels from your android unit. You can not control fade because your android unit can not control the Can Bus fade system in your factory amp. You can't hear Bluetooth, or navigation info because the 2 channels from the android unit which are connected to the factory dsp are the REAR channels and meanwhile all bluetooth and nav information is fed through the FRONT channels on the android unit. You can correct this by switching the front channels with the rear channels on the android unit.
You will still not be able to correct fade though. What you can TRY though is going into the FACTORY SETTINGS on the android and make sure you have AMPLIFIER turned on. If your android machine is 'smart enough' then it will understand that your dsp fade needs to be controlled through CAN Bus.
If you ordered the factory specific android unit for your bmw, your steering wheel buttons SHOULD work, but you will not be able to remap them.
The cpu that you have in that machine is not really strong enough to handle mkv files. You should convert to a simpler format if you want to play video on that machine.

Meatcleaver_101
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Hello to all you wonderful people
YT9213A_00009_V001_20200312
Android os 9.1 XY Auto:3.2 (8227L)
Can Pro 3.0 (8227L)
Cpu A7 1.3Hz x 4
MCU 3.1 (8227L)
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If anyone has any advice I would be greatly appreciated
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Hi new member. Welcome, suggest taking the time to learn the basics of Chinese Android head units, there are alot of informative posts and a wiki for MTCx units.
As your unit is not an MTCD, I have requested a mod moves it to the appropriate Android head units forum.
Try searching for 8227L

Meatcleaver_101 said:
Hello to all you wonderful people
Firstly thank you for taking the time to read and potentially help me resolve this issues. Here are the issues I am experiencing.
Vehicle 2006 X5 BMW 4.4i E53 (No hating on please I already know)
Unit 9"inch Chinese made Android 9.1 firmware. Not connected to aftermarket amplifier and no RCA Audio connect)
Android YT9213A_00009_V001_20200312
Android os 9.1 XY Auto:3.2 (8227L)
Can Pro 3.0 (8227L)
Cpu A7 1.3Hz x 4
MCU 3.1 (8227L)
1. Unit only produces sound when using the Radio (Front speakers only and No fade ability, left right or EQ)
2. I have set the Canbus to BMW but Steering Wheel Button Mapping is non functioning or recognising.
3. Updated software via units button and Wi-fi and still no change
4. Vehicle has a DSP amplifier aka Splits 2 channel signal into 6 channels
5. Has Bluetooth connectivity but does not pick up sound when on a call from within the car nor produces any sound when playing music tracks or video.
6. Struggles to play movie files (Wondering if it is just a file type issue - I use "mkv" file types normally "VLC player" )
7. Google maps produces no street name data and only shows directional lines and no turn information vocally.
Please note that the company I bought this off no longer replies to emails and wont engage in any form of help..
I am hoping that a raw firmware update to Android 10 or similar will fix most /all of these issues...if so I would need a link to the firmware file please - Plus if advised that RCA connects are the answer to the Sound issues maybe the answer.
If anyone has any advice I would be greatly appreciated
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Hey
I also have X5, but lucky for me - w/o DSP and NAVI. So every generic head unit works for me fine
But according to your problem.. unfortunately what Bob_sanders says is true and problem is DSP.
To allow your head unit handle DPS you need to buy additional I-BUS interface (which you connect using USB and soldering few wires) and download application.
You can read more in this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/discussion-unofficial-bmw-i-bus-app.4077697/
Not sure if buying license is necessary to enable DSP, so you may check it before you buy.
But for sure updating Android version won't help - you have to use this I-bus thingy.
edit. same thing applies to steering wheel control - command are sent using I-bus (instead of CAN) and i-bus interface is needed to handle them.
But AFAIK you won't be able to do a custom mapping. They will work only like BMW designed it.
Custom mapping is only available to resistive-based SWC controls, which are connected to KEY 1 & 2 wires in head unit harness.

wotii098 said:
Hey
I also have X5, but lucky for me - w/o DSP and NAVI. So every generic head unit works for me fine
But according to your problem.. unfortunately what Bob_sanders says is true and problem is DSP.
To allow your head unit handle DPS you need to buy additional I-BUS interface (which you connect using USB and soldering few wires) and download application.
You can read more in this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/discussion-unofficial-bmw-i-bus-app.4077697/
Not sure if buying license is necessary to enable DSP, so you may check it before you buy.
But for sure updating Android version won't help - you have to use this I-bus thingy.
edit. same thing applies to steering wheel control - command are sent using I-bus (instead of CAN) and i-bus interface is needed to handle them.
But AFAIK you won't be able to do a custom mapping. They will work only like BMW designed it.
Custom mapping is only available to resistive-based SWC controls, which are connected to KEY 1 & 2 wires in head unit harness.
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Hi Wotii098
I have found an answer to the problem and it is a super simple one...
So apparently the power antenna wire is the answer... So the issue goes without the activation of that wire the unit thinks there is no antenna and will not go any further with sound and will only produce basic Radio audio... So what you need to do is attach the "BLUE" Ant wire (Pin No.12) to the Yellow power wire and this will instantly fix the issue.. Spread the word my brethren and thank you for your response.

marchnz said:
Hi new member. Welcome, suggest taking the time to learn the basics of Chinese Android head units, there are alot of informative posts and a wiki for MTCx units.
As your unit is not an MTCD, I have requested a mod moves it to the appropriate Android head units forum.
Try searching for 8227L
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Thank you .. I appreciate the advice and the welcome to be honest.. I will have a read on the other posts related to this post .. cheers

Meatcleaver_101 said:
Hi Wotii098
I have found an answer to the problem and it is a super simple one...
So apparently the power antenna wire is the answer... So the issue goes without the activation of that wire the unit thinks there is no antenna and will not go any further with sound and will only produce basic Radio audio... So what you need to do is attach the "BLUE" Ant wire (Pin No.12) to the Yellow power wire and this will instantly fix the issue.. Spread the word my brethren and thank you for your response.
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HUH?
Sorry... I'm not sure what you did or the problem you were having but the blue antenna wire is just an antenna trigger wire which OUTPUTS a voltage. There is no "activation" of that wire and nothing on that wire to sense any connection. It simply outputs a voltage to trigger a power antenna. If you do not have a power antenna then DO NOT connect it to anything.
It is NOT advised that you connect that wire to the yellow 12 volt constant voltage wire. That is NOT what it is for, and you may damage your machine in the end.

Bob_Sanders said:
HUH?
Sorry... I'm not sure what you did or the problem you were having but the blue antenna wire is just an antenna trigger wire which OUTPUTS a voltage. There is no "activation" of that wire and nothing on that wire to sense any connection. It simply outputs a voltage to trigger a power antenna. If you do not have a power antenna then DO NOT connect it to anything.
It is NOT advised that you connect that wire to the yellow 12 volt constant voltage wire. That is NOT what it is for, and you may damage your machine in the end.
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Arrr But that's the thing.. it's a trigger wire that the unit uses to trigger the DSP Amp that everything is active and to open up the signal to the amp.
Well not the best and actual scientific/electrical way of putting it... but it worked and fixed most of my issues.. I've only got one issues left which is the steering wheel button mapping which doesn't work. Which could be the actual buttons/assembly as I did not test them when I bought the SUV, because the stereo's screen was dead.
Either way I hope this helps someone who is having the same issue as me for a 2005/6 model BMW X5 or any other car/suv/truck with the same issue.
Give it a try if you are having this problem Bob.. can't hurt.. Didn't hurt my unit..
Here is a Youtube link to the video I found that solved the issue:

Meatcleaver_101 said:
Arrr But that's the thing.. it's a trigger wire that the unit uses to trigger the DSP Amp that everything is active and to open up the signal to the amp.
Well not the best and actual scientific/electrical way of putting it... but it worked and fixed most of my issues.. I've only got one issues left which is the steering wheel button mapping which doesn't work. Which could be the actual buttons/assembly as I did not test them when I bought the SUV, because the stereo's screen was dead.
Either way I hope this helps someone who is having the same issue as me for a 2005/6 model BMW X5 or any other car/suv/truck with the same issue.
Give it a try if you are having this problem Bob.. can't hurt.. Didn't hurt my unit..
Here is a Youtube link to the video I found that solved the issue:
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No. It is a trigger wire for your Antenna. That's precisely why it shuts down when you turn the radio off. Your power antenna is no longer needed because you are not listening to the radio anymore, so it retracts back down into the vehicle.
What you are doing when you connect to the yellow is feeding a REVERSE voltage through a circuit which was designed to PRODUCE a voltage, not receive one. You risk damage to your machine by doing so.
If you are having problems keeping your dsp alive then you have wired something wrong. I don't know what head unit you have but all the ones I know of have a separate "AMP" wire which is used to trigger the amp/dsp. It stays on at any time the head unit is on.

Ownice or Teyes android 10 car multimedia?

Hello, which brand would you recommend ? I've been reading topics here and narrowed it down to maybe those two. It is for Opel Insignia 2008 . I browsed some "tesla" style with the bigger screen which replaces my whole front panel of the cd which controls the partonic and has sport and tour buttons and they say it doesn't support them. Since my old cd is behind the buttons and the new one is only where the screen is , i disconnect the old one, will those tour and sport buttons work in a normal smaller multimedia system? Thanks in advance
ownice:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002790860130.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4dd850d8O4zHWS&algo_pvid=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069&algo_exp_id=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069-2
teyes:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001652199168.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1f79d486reoitB&algo_pvid=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355&algo_exp_id=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355-1
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.

ivosto said:
Hello, which brand would you recommend ? I've been reading topics here and narrowed it down to maybe those two. It is for Opel Insignia 2008 . I browsed some "tesla" style with the bigger screen which replaces my whole front panel of the cd which controls the partonic and has sport and tour buttons and they say it doesn't support them. Since my old cd is behind the buttons and the new one is only where the screen is , i disconnect the old one, will those tour and sport buttons work in a normal smaller multimedia system? Thanks in advance
ownice:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002790860130.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4dd850d8O4zHWS&algo_pvid=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069&algo_exp_id=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069-2
teyes:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001652199168.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1f79d486reoitB&algo_pvid=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355&algo_exp_id=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355-1
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.
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"Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice."
Neither of these are Android Auto.

I like the quick charger USB, ambient light control and IPS screen of Ownice. Plus, it does have Android Auto and CarPlay but you need to pay extra cost.

I normally don't answer these kind of topics as it is a never ending story, but maybe I or others can use it to copy around in likewise questions.
They are more or less the same when it comes to the software. They are FYT based and have support for the several versions of hardware.
But anyway, for all units be it FYT based, MTCx, TSx, AC8227, etc., etc., FIRST compare the hardware:
Check whether the screen is TFT/IPS/QLED (in increasing quality=readability). Go for nothing less than 1280x720 (1024x600 is not good enough anymore, but in the end it is up to you).
Check which FM-chip (from low to high):
TDA7786x or Philips (NXP) TEF6851 => budget chip without RDS.
TDA7708x => middle segment but good enough
Philips (NXP) TEF6686 => top FM chip
Check which audio chip (low to high):
TDA7388 -> budget, not good.
TDA7850/TDA7851: Both good. 7851 has slightly less power output with slightly less heat dissipation. Less chance of overheating. The TDA7851 has almost everywhere been replaced with the TDA7838, which should be identical in quality/performance (no idea, google around)
DSP: nowadays mostly ROHM BU32107. (Earlier ADAU chips are not so good but seem only to be used in MTCx units.)
CPU (fast to slow): UIS7862 (Unisoc ums512), SC9853i and PX6, PX5 AC8257, PX30, AC8237 and PX3.
This order is a bit discussable, but the uis7862 is definitely the fastest currently.
Memory: minimal 2GB, 4GB is fine. Some prefer 6GB but that is actually not necessary.
Now back to the FYT models you are mentioning. They are more or less comparable. It "seems" T'eyes support is better, but I leave that to the owners (Don't want to start a flame here )
ivosto said:
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice.
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What? Android Auto?
You are going to buy such an expensive high-power full-fledged full functional Android unit and use it as a cheap emulator for the restricted Android Auto?????
I really, really don't understand these kind of arguments. If you want to use Android Auto, for which you indeed sometimes need to pay separately, then choose a cheap unit which supports this as well.

ivosto said:
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.
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Android Auto is crap
When people think about buying these android head units I don't think they quite get the idea that these are pretty much full-on android tablets complete with their own android operating system. There really is no need to run android auto. Things like spotify.... youtube... siriusxm... etc... can be downloaded from the google playstore and run directly from the head unit itself. All you need to do is supply a wifi hotspot from your phone, or fit the head unit with its own 4g card.

Thanks guys, really useful answers! About android auto - I have, had no idea it wasn't that good. I never had a car with more than a single colored screen and always see adverts about new cars which specify they have android auto or apple car play as such a huge extra. After all isn't this to link the phone to the car system and operate the phone from the display? What if I receive e call ? The Bluetooth/wi-fi connection will allow me to answer it from the car media? And lastly i really want to have it lazy - for example i get in the car - my head unit and the car connect somehow , can i make it play Spotify automatically ? is there something like Bixby routines or.. can it happen at all? Or actually i can do it from the phone - when connected to that head unit to play Spotify like I have a program to play automatically when it connects to a certain speaker? Thanks very much again!

ivosto said:
Thanks guys, really useful answers! About android auto - I have, had no idea it wasn't that good. I never had a car with more than a single colored screen and always see adverts about new cars which specify they have android auto or apple car play as such a huge extra. After all isn't this to link the phone to the car system and operate the phone from the display? What if I receive e call ? The Bluetooth/wi-fi connection will allow me to answer it from the car media? And lastly i really want to have it lazy - for example i get in the car - my head unit and the car connect somehow , can i make it play Spotify automatically ? is there something like Bixby routines or.. can it happen at all? Or actually i can do it from the phone - when connected to that head unit to play Spotify like I have a program to play automatically when it connects to a certain speaker? Thanks very much again!
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I have a simple bixby routine set up to turn the phone wifi hotspot on for use with the head unit, and then off again when I turn my jeep off. Of course the head unit automatically connects to that hotspot when it sees it. It's all automatic. I don't have to pull the phone out at all.
You can downlaod a tasker to start Spotify automatically if you wish.
Yes, your phone's bluetooth will connect automatically for phone calls.

Bob_Sanders said:
I have a simple bixby routine set up to turn the phone wifi hotspot on for use with the head unit, and then off again when I turn my jeep off. Of course the head unit automatically connects to that hotspot when it sees it. It's all automatic. I don't have to pull the phone out at all.
You can downlaod a tasker to start Spotify automatically if you wish.
Yes, your phone's bluetooth will connect automatically for phone calls.
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Bixby is Samsung only.
You can also use Tasker/MacroDroid/Automagic/Automate/etc. to do what you do what @Bob_Sanders is doing with BixBy.
When you switch on the unit it connects via BT to your phone. That triggers MacroDroid/Tasker on your phone for that BT device (the unit) to switch on the hotspot, which the car unit on its turn then automatically connects to.
And when you switch off the car/unit, your BT connection is broken and the phone hotspot is stopped.
Works all the time for me.

Wow!
The Ownice has a HUGE array of inputs/outputs on top of the normal ones... pretty impressive
Dual sub outputs
HDMI output
Quick charge usb
two rca video outputs
Atmosphere lighting control
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