Ok, I love my Moto Maxx. I knew I will get limited support, limited developers support, even compared to its less capable cousin Moto X. But I didn't expect this much suffering.
People are trying to unlock bootloader, update, root, and months after months of struggles and hard work from our beloved contributing developers.
For the US Verizon customers, it was the bootload and root, then after months of trying they got it and it was the update they were promised by the end of 2014 which just arrived, then the cycle starts over.
For us, the international Moto Maxx users, we gambled big, the phone is only known in a few countries with no real developer support but it was (as I said before) a SuperPhone. Unlocking bootload and rooting for us wasn't that hard, but here we are waiting and waiting for the lollipop update (I'm still on 4.4.4) and for the work corporate apps I am using I cannot root or use CM sadly.
I hereby declare the Droid franchise developer and power users unfriendly. I would like to extend this to any phone that is not worldwide mainstream. I will think a million times before doing this to myself again, despite the battery and superior user experience.
My company offered to buy me an iphone 6 (lol) or a Samsung galaxy s6 or s6 edge and I said no and jumped through hoops to get approval to use my Moto Maxx. I regret this completely. The first chance I will get, I will revisit this, I might get lucky and get them to get me the new international version of Moto X 2015.
So yes, this is an open letter to Motorola and Verizon. This is a whiny complainy angry thread and you can all express your feelings about this here.
I am keeping an open mind and still giving Motorola another chance. After all they have tried hard to look at our user experience pain points and provide good solutions for it.
So I hope I have learned my lesson. I hope I don't fall for this trap again. Even if this means I lose touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display which became part of my daily routine.
What do you guys think? am I over reacting?
Kiwironic said:
Ok, I love my Moto Maxx. I knew I will get limited support, limited developers support, even compared to its less capable cousin Moto X. But I didn't expect this much suffering.
People are trying to unlock bootloader, update, root, and months after months of struggles and hard work from our beloved contributing developers.
For the US Verizon customers, it was the bootload and root, then after months of trying they got it and it was the update they were promised by the end of 2014 which just arrived, then the cycle starts over.
For us, the international Moto Maxx users, we gambled big, the phone is only known in a few countries with no real developer support but it was (as I said before) a SuperPhone. Unlocking bootload and rooting for us wasn't that hard, but here we are waiting and waiting for the lollipop update (I'm still on 4.4.4) and for the work corporate apps I am using I cannot root or use CM sadly.
I hereby declare the Droid franchise developer and power users unfriendly. I would like to extend this to any phone that is not worldwide mainstream. I will think a million times before doing this to myself again, despite the battery and superior user experience.
My company offered to buy me an iphone 6 (lol) or a Samsung galaxy s6 or s6 edge and I said no and jumped through hoops to get approval to use my Moto Maxx. I regret this completely. The first chance I will get, I will revisit this, I might get lucky and get them to get me the new international version of Moto X 2015.
So yes, this is an open letter to Motorola and Verizon. This is a whiny complainy angry thread and you can all express your feelings about this here.
I am keeping an open mind and still giving Motorola another chance. After all they have tried hard to look at our user experience pain points and provide good solutions for it.
So I hope I have learned my lesson. I hope I don't fall for this trap again. Even if this means I lose touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display which became part of my daily routine.
What do you guys think? am I over reacting?
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Every variant of this phone can be updated to Lollipop. Seems like your problem is your employer since the Maxx has an unlockable bootloader and CyanogenMod. Yeah the support for these devices has been horrible but oh well.
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Every variant of this phone can be updated to Lollipop. Seems like your problem is your employer since the Maxx has an unlockable bootloader and CyanogenMod. Yeah the support for these devices has been horrible but oh well.
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I would have considered CM if it had support for touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display. These are important to me, and some of the reason I went for the Moto Maxx. What you are saying is, I should give up most of the features I got this phone for just to get lollipop??? How convenient is that?
Motorola nor Verizon have anything to do with CM, my pain points are not coming from CM but from Motorola.
Kiwironic said:
Ok, I love my Moto Maxx. I knew I will get limited support, limited developers support, even compared to its less capable cousin Moto X. But I didn't expect this much suffering.
People are trying to unlock bootloader, update, root, and months after months of struggles and hard work from our beloved contributing developers.
For the US Verizon customers, it was the bootload and root, then after months of trying they got it and it was the update they were promised by the end of 2014 which just arrived, then the cycle starts over.
For us, the international Moto Maxx users, we gambled big, the phone is only known in a few countries with no real developer support but it was (as I said before) a SuperPhone. Unlocking bootload and rooting for us wasn't that hard, but here we are waiting and waiting for the lollipop update (I'm still on 4.4.4) and for the work corporate apps I am using I cannot root or use CM sadly.
I hereby declare the Droid franchise developer and power users unfriendly. I would like to extend this to any phone that is not worldwide mainstream. I will think a million times before doing this to myself again, despite the battery and superior user experience.
My company offered to buy me an iphone 6 (lol) or a Samsung galaxy s6 or s6 edge and I said no and jumped through hoops to get approval to use my Moto Maxx. I regret this completely. The first chance I will get, I will revisit this, I might get lucky and get them to get me the new international version of Moto X 2015.
So yes, this is an open letter to Motorola and Verizon. This is a whiny complainy angry thread and you can all express your feelings about this here.
I am keeping an open mind and still giving Motorola another chance. After all they have tried hard to look at our user experience pain points and provide good solutions for it.
So I hope I have learned my lesson. I hope I don't fall for this trap again. Even if this means I lose touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display which became part of my daily routine.
What do you guys think? am I over reacting?
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You can't really call yourself a power user and gloss over the fact you could have flashed Lollipop many months ago. It doesn't even have to be CM.
I don't get why your phone is still on 4.4.4. I'm running stock 5.0.2 with all the features that you like
Yawn.
I'm not sure why this is a surprise. The DX, released 5 years ago, and the next generations are on the same boat.
IMO, rooting and custom ROMs is not the same as it used to be as Android has taken so many steps forward.
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Moto MAXX XT1225 got stock Lollipop back in March, soon after Moto Turbo XT1225 (same device, same FCC ID) launched with Lollipop in India. 5.0.2.
I ran stock 5.0.2 for months on my Puerto Rico Moto Maxx, and on my Mexico Moto Maxx.
It was the Droid Turbo XT1254 stuck on 4.4.4, not the XT1225.
The stock 5.0.2 files are in the development section, if you want to flash them. For Brazil, Mexico and India.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3063470
Claro in Puerto Rico (and I think Chile, also) had a falling out with Motorola, so the Puerto Rico/Chile Moto Maxx never got an official OTA to 5.0.2. But if you have Puerto Rico XT1225, you just flash your phone to another country and get 5.0.2. Or flash the 5.0.2 image of your choice (Brazil, Mexico, India).
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Stock 5.1 is coming for the XT1225, but custom ROM 5.1.1 has been here for months. There's two custom 5.1.1 ROMs available -- one is AOSP, not CM based. So development support is here.
AOSP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3108708
CM 12.1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3060089
We also have cool boot logos and animations like these:
BOOT ANIMATION
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3141711
BOOT LOGO
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3065141
(Many more, just an example of each.)
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However, you say you can't run custom ROM, that you have to stay stock. Therefore, why have you not flashed stock 5.0.2 which has been available for the XT1225 since March?
I care less about CM for Quark but i am surprised to see that nobody released a stock based rom for our phones yet.
Semseddin said:
I care less about CM for Quark but i am surprised to see that nobody released a stock based rom for our phones yet.
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There's an AOSP one. I know, not exactly the same as "stock". But we do have two completely different custom 5.1.1 ROMs.
You can also run stock 5.0.2, root and run xposed/Gravity Box and get as few or as many custom ROM features you want... While remaining on stock.
I would be very fine if someone provided us a custom rom based on stock brazil build of maxx, just something like computerfreak provided to Turbo users. It is funny that what i wanted for my phone is already available for the bootloader locked variant and missing from our bootloader free variant. This very well explains the popularity of the device within people is the key to its development potencial.
edit : even opened a request thread for it but nobody gave a f. , even our maxx users, leave alone the uninterested developers.
i think we should collect 450$ and buy juacos's maxx to a developer who would be happily developing good stuff for us.
i totally agree, last year i got the droid maxx and it had little development but i thought that the moto maxx being released worldwide would have a lot of support, i really love motorola, but i dont like this, its like having a lamborgini that only you can drive, theres no much development, i regret trading my oneplus one, it even had better battery than my moto maxx, and worse camera but under same usage my battery lasted more than moto maxx and the speakers were louder, this year i think i will buy a moto x or the new oneplus two, its real sad to write this but its the truth. no more moto maxx or droid maxx for me.
So I change to Mexican rom to be able to get 5.0.2 and then what? I don't force upgrades unless I see a clear upgrade path. If then Motorola releases an 5.1 OTA upgrade from 4.4.4 for PR and not Mexico, then I am screwed. I don't take the downgrading risk.
Being a power user doesn't mean I go foolishly and pick the only upgrade path and not worry about the future. I don't gamble with my devices.
Anyway, yesterday Motorola has announced 5.0.2 for PR among many other versions. I will post the updates in this thread
International Moto Maxx 5.1 official update (Non Droid Turbo)
Kiwironic said:
So I change to Mexican rom to be able to get 5.0.2 and then what? I don't force upgrades unless I see a clear upgrade path. If then Motorola releases an 5.1 OTA upgrade from 4.4.4 for PR and not Mexico, then I am screwed. I don't take the downgrading risk.
Being a power user doesn't mean I go foolishly and pick the only upgrade path and not worry about the future. I don't gamble with my devices.
Anyway, yesterday Motorola has announced 5.0.2 for PR among many other versions. I will post the updates in this thread
International Moto Maxx 5.1 official update (Non Droid Turbo)
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Power users and developers absolutely gamble with their devices. What it really comes down to is not about being power user nor developer friendly, but instead you want frequent and fast updates. The only device that will give you that is a Nexus and at this time you can have that on Verizon too.
Your stance defies everything an unlocked bootloader stands for.
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So I change to Mexican rom to be able to get 5.0.2 and then what? I don't force upgrades unless I see a clear upgrade path. If then Motorola releases an 5.1 OTA upgrade from 4.4.4 for PR and not Mexico, then I am screwed. I don't take the downgrading risk.
Being a power user doesn't mean I go foolishly and pick the only upgrade path and not worry about the future. I don't gamble with my devices.
Anyway, yesterday Motorola has announced 5.0.2 for PR among many other versions. I will post the updates in this thread
International Moto Maxx 5.1 official update (Non Droid Turbo)
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As Mexico, Brazil and India factory unlocked phones got 5.0.2 first, I imagine they will get 5.1 first.
Under no scenario does Claro Puerto Rico phones get 5.1 and factory unlocked XT1225 (Mexico, Brazil, India) does not.
You say Motorola has just announced 5.0.2 for Puerto Rico Claro. Well, this is mid July. Factory unlocked has had it since March, and will soon get 5.1 stock.
You sound a little silly saying if you flash the XT1225 to another country image or another Android version, you can't flash back if you want. Many people have flashed to 5.0.2 to custom ROM 5.1 and back to 4.4.4 on the XT 1225. One guy -- @Fulbring -- said he's done it at least 5 times... See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61498706
Many flashed to India, then to Brazil, then to Mexico to see difference (if any) in performance. You can also downgrade back to 4.4.4.
I flashed my Puerto Rico Moto Maxx 4.4.4 to India 5.0.2 and then to CM 12.1 Lollipop 5.1. I could easily flash it back to Claro Puerto Rico 4.4.4, if I wanted.
There's instructions. You just have to read. @Jaocagomez wrote an excellent thread about all this. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3074724
The key is having an unlocked bootloader. Where people have gotten into trouble is trying to flash update with locked bootloader.
I guess you guys are really happy with what you got. I expressed my opinion and not going to change it to please you.
I think Motorola can do better than this, and I think we deserve better than this. I will leave you guys to give me more lessons about how to be a power user.
Kiwironic said:
I guess you guys are really happy with what you got. I expressed my opinion and not going to change it to please you.
I think Motorola can do better than this, and I think we deserve better than this. I will leave you guys to give me more lessons about how to be a power user.
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I'm not disagreeing that Motorola dropped the ball on the XT1225 with a narrow release, instead of a world wide release that would have included Europe, all of Asia, and Canada. It is a super phone, and Motorola made people jump through hoops to get it.
It should have been as widely released as the Moto X, or even better this is the phone Motorola should have released as the Moto X.
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But still running 4.4.4 on the XT1225 is your fault, not Motorola. This phone -- the XT1225 -- has had stock 5.0.2 since March on all factory unlocked phones and many Brazil and Mexico carriers and you refuse to flash it on your XT1225.
There's clear instructions on how to do it. Instead you are waiting for a specific carrier OTA, when you do not need to do so.
The XT1225 is the same device across all regions, all countries. The India Moto Turbo XT1225 IDENTICAL in every way to the Latin America Moto Maxx XT2225.
Many, many people in these threads have upgraded, downgraded 4.4.4 to 5.02 and back again, flashed images from different countries, to prove it's not hard -- since our bootloader can be unlocked. The Droid Turbo XT1254 owners WISH they had our advantage!
The only reason I did not change region as I mentioned before is to be sure about a good upgrade path. However, since all updates indicates that BR has the highest chance for 5.1 update, then I have just flashed stock BR. People report that they are able to upgrade then downgrade, while others report bricked on downgrade. A smart user knows that gpt doesn't like being downgraded, and so I will not try this path.
I don't want just to update to lollipop, first of all I do not want to lose themoto features I already have, flashing custom or CM will not help, as it doesn't support the stock moto features. 5.0.2 is buggy and less secure and I do not want to flash it unless I have evidence 5.1 is around the corner. (even before having corporate apps)
Here I am now with BR stock, OTA updates are not available, I think I will have to flash the OTA manually. Let's see how that goes.
Now, since I am being accused of being "unreasonable", the question here is, are you satisfied with how Motorola is handling the device??? You can answer this question (at least to yourself) or you can just blame things on me and lecture me on how to be a power user because you know all about it
Up to you.
Thanks to all of you who objectively expressed your opinion without the bullying attitude some adopt.
I've had just about every Samsung phone since the galaxy S2 and note 1. I've also had the old razor maxx by Motorola and it was horrible. I have the droid turbo un rooted and I have to say it's been the best phone I've ever had. It's fast, great battery, awesome features. I don't care to root anymore because I personally don't see an advantage to it. Please don't argue with me, it's just my point of view for me. I love LP so far. And since the camera update this phone to me is flawless. I think you may be over reacting a bit OP.
@MaxX folks around the world, since we didn't pay for root or bl unlock, maybe we could collect some money and donate a mint condition moto maxx device to a developer who would develop rom / kernel support for his & our devices.. We could have had the faux123 kernel, imagine that with 3900mah battery.
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Yes, i am really frustrated.....
Motorola still has not learnt the lesson.......
being a loyal and long android user, i always preferred for latest os on my devices .....
being an European android user i always feel ditched with motorola.....
locked bootloader with milestone and worst support from moto.....
and now Asus is able to give custom 3.1 to transfomer users and still Euro xoom owners has no luck to see 3.1 on our stock android xoom.....
how many years do moto need to provide the update where one XDA dev can do it in 1 day???
WTF?
only where i am happy is that we have the support of this greatest community but still ignored and ditched my Moto always.......
i can get 3.1 by unlocking xoom and with support of awesome XDA but moto voids the warranty and they don't want to provide the update themselves....so what is it?
when will Moto learn the lesson or do they deliberately ignore Non-US area?
*if anyone feel that my frustration is meaningless and moto is great, always welcome to delete this thread....sorry and thank you
chowdarygm said:
Yes, i am really frustrated.....
Motorola still has not learnt the lesson.......
being a loyal and long android user, i always preferred for latest os on my devices .....
being an European android user i always feel ditched with motorola.....
locked bootloader with milestone and worst support from moto.....
and now Asus is able to give custom 3.1 to transfomer users and still Euro xoom owners has no luck to see 3.1 on our stock android xoom.....
how many years do moto need to provide the update where one XDA dev can do it in 1 day???
WTF?
only where i am happy is that we have the support of this greatest community but still ignored and ditched my Moto always.......
i can get 3.1 by unlocking xoom and with support of awesome XDA but moto voids the warranty and they don't want to provide the update themselves....so what is it?
when will Moto learn the lesson or do they deliberately ignore Non-US area?
*if anyone feel that my frustration is meaningless and moto is great, always welcome to delete this thread....sorry and thank you
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I don't have MOTO but 4 of my friends do I can see the frustration even in the atrix users due to being locked up tight I'm sure many devs feel the same in there forum .
That's why I took my frustrations to the company direct HTC but I know thousands have to MOTO with no response it seems people say they will u lock end quart 4 this year maybe .. I think you can try your best to get them to do something I support anyone who wishes to make these huge companies see the consumer is what is most important ..
Xda is amazing I've been using 2.3.3 or a ginger based rom for a while people on HTC fb still asking for ota updates for the EVO 4g ..
So either keep on going after MOTO or hope the devs can make something happen..
Oh and nothing will happen till you get them to really hear your voice best of luck ..
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I'm still on the fence with regards to buying a tablet, but the lack of European support from Motorola isn't doing them any favours as far as my decision is concerned.
The lack of support for euro xoom is pathetic, this is my first Motorola for years and I would not have brought it if I had realised this was the situation.
madpete said:
The lack of support for euro xoom is pathetic, this is my first Motorola for years and I would not have brought it if I had realised this was the situation.
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while buying this, i convinced my wife that moto will have better support than acer or Asus.... but i am wrong now....moto is the worst i have ever used...
chowdarygm said:
while buying this, i convinced my wife that moto will have better support than acer or Asus.... but i am wrong now....moto is the worst i have ever used...
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Try taking all this that you all dislike and send it all to MOTO Idk that's what i did to start with HTC it pissed me off we pay so much pay monthly fees and they do what give us no feedback as to why there system of updates is horrible
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My situation:
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
Still no UK price or confirmed spec, desperately waiting for some news on this. Have a feeling that it's going to be too expensive but who knows?
Motorola Xoom
Love the build quality and that's got my interest, not sure that I'll be satisfied with the display. There appears to be limited Euro support (bad Motorola!) and not so much activity in the dev section for Euro Xooms. Quite expensive.
Asus Transformer
Ex TF owner due to what I consider poor build quality, but I still haven't dismissed buying another so long as I can get a good one. Good spec, decent price in comparison. Asus appear to be quite supportive with updates, dev section looks quite active.
What to do!
UKseagull said:
My situation:
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
Still no UK price or confirmed spec, desperately waiting for some news on this. Have a feeling that it's going to be too expensive but who knows?
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Galaxt tab 10.1v in stocks in germany for 500 euros.....200 euro cheaper than xoom
I think the 10.1v is the older version with the 8 megapixel camera, thanks for the link though.
For European, choose Samsung... or HTC. And of course ASUS
chowdarygm said:
Yes, i am really frustrated.....
Motorola still has not learnt the lesson.......
being a loyal and long android user, i always preferred for latest os on my devices .....
being an European android user i always feel ditched with motorola.....
locked bootloader with milestone and worst support from moto.....
and now Asus is able to give custom 3.1 to transfomer users and still Euro xoom owners has no luck to see 3.1 on our stock android xoom.....
how many years do moto need to provide the update where one XDA dev can do it in 1 day???
WTF?
only where i am happy is that we have the support of this greatest community but still ignored and ditched my Moto always.......
i can get 3.1 by unlocking xoom and with support of awesome XDA but moto voids the warranty and they don't want to provide the update themselves....so what is it?
when will Moto learn the lesson or do they deliberately ignore Non-US area?
*if anyone feel that my frustration is meaningless and moto is great, always welcome to delete this thread....sorry and thank you
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It is kind of odd bc Samsung seemed to be the opposite when I was with them.
The update has only been available in the states for 5 minutes, so what's the big deal?
Also as the stock Android device, isn't Google responsible for the Xoom updates, not Moto?
It's the same process of all manufacturers to roll out updates by region.
It could be a lot worse, take Samsung for example, it took them about 7 months just to roll out Froyo to their Galaxy S handsets, then another 6 months for Gingerbread.
My European HTC Desire is still using Froyo
Philio25 said:
The update has only been available in the states for 5 minutes, so what's the big deal?
Also as the stock Android device, isn't Google responsible for the Xoom updates, not Moto?
It's the same process of all manufacturers to roll out updates by region.
It could be a lot worse, take Samsung for example, it took them about 7 months just to roll out Froyo to their Galaxy S handsets, then another 6 months for Gingerbread.
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to everyone.... one thing i don't understand here....
motorola talk about difference in hardware and software based of regions bla bla bla bla.... how the hell Apple is able to rollout anything for every apple device at once.....i dont understand the point here.......can anyone explain me?
i read on moto forums that its google's fault in not releasing 3.1 for euro xoom and moto has not to be blamed!!!!!!!!! WTH
how is samsung and acer are able to already customise it and release it???
stupid reasons ....
i am starting to loose my patience now seeing how moto is treating and telling meaningless reasons....
Philio25 said:
The update has only been available in the states for 5 minutes, so what's the big deal?
Also as the stock Android device, isn't Google responsible for the Xoom updates, not Moto?
It's the same process of all manufacturers to roll out updates by region.
It could be a lot worse, take Samsung for example, it took them about 7 months just to roll out Froyo to their Galaxy S handsets, then another 6 months for Gingerbread.
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The 3G US Xoom update has been out for 2 weeks now. The big deal is the update includes fixes for long lists of bugs for 3.01, which is not the most stable OS to start with. I don’t want my Xoom running on older and buggier software for any length of time more than necessary.
As a customer, I don’t care who is responsible for the update. I expect my device to be update in a timely manner like IOS/Windows desktop. If Motorola/Google cannot deliver on this, than I’ll simply choose a different manufacture or operating system for my next device.
Those updates are for new operating system, like you said Eclair and Gingerbread. We are talking about an update within Honeycomb, so its not a fair comparison.
Bottom line, I'm also frustrated with no 3.1 update outside of US, and no time line on when we will get it.
Did Motorola say that?
You bought the XOOM from Motorola, so no matter what... Motorola is responsible for the update!
chowdarygm said:
to everyone.... one thing i don't understand here....
motorola talk about difference in hardware and software based of regions bla bla bla bla.... how the hell Apple is able to rollout anything for every apple device at once.....i dont understand the point here.......can anyone explain me?
i read on moto forums that its google's fault in not releasing 3.1 for euro xoom and moto has not to be blamed!!!!!!!!! WTH
how is samsung and acer are able to already customise it and release it???
stupid reasons ....
i am starting to loose my patience now seeing how moto is treating and telling meaningless reasons....
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Xoom in Europe is different, its GSM not CDMA like the US.
The iPhone argument does not hold water either. The Verizon iPhone doesn't have 4.3 which has been out for months, the difference between the two phones is the same as the difference between US and non US, the radio.
FtL1776 said:
Xoom in Europe is different, its GSM not CDMA like the US.
The iPhone argument does not hold water either. The Verizon iPhone doesn't have 4.3 which has been out for months, the difference between the two phones is the same as the difference between US and non US, the radio.
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if it is only the radio, is it that difficult to change those lines of code and and send the update? how was it achieved very simply by our own devs in a day without access to advanced tools........
sorry guys, i am so frustrated now coz, my SGS2 is able to play 720p and 1080p butter smooth where as i am struggling to do basic things with moto 700 euro brick .....
Just like Samsung is horrible with updates in the U.S.
I'm in Canada so Motorola is horrible with updates as expected.
I guess short Moto's stock and become rich.
I'm a french user, got a Xoom Wifi only (MZ604), and i'm also hoping for a 3.1 update soon...
Wanna try to flash US stock image, but Motorola didn't release stock images for EU users, so i wont be able to relock it... and in case of problem, i'll got a brick without these images...
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Hi
Has a new moto droid turbo owner looks like we may get android 5.1 on June 10th
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/droid-...date-confirmed-device-will-receive-ota-446485
Looks like I got this phone this in time
Thanks for sharing bud, hope this pans out
they must mean june 10th 2017.
If that's true, where was the soak?
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If that's true, where was the soak?
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Maybe they tested internally
Maybe the information is slightly wrong, and that's the soak date. Either way it's finally coming. Can't wait to see this phone on 5.1
At this point, it better be polished all to hell. I'll be upset if I see any major bugs at all after that wait.
I'm on the last 5.0.2 for Moto Maxx Retail Br (FIRMWARE ending with .16)
Only Bluetooth is having some random connection issues.
If they fix it and keeps/improve this stability, I think it'll be great! :}
maxmousee said:
I'm on the last 5.0.2 for Moto Maxx Retail Br (FIRMWARE ending with .16)
Only Bluetooth is having some random connection issues.
If they fix it and keeps/improve this stability, I think it'll be great! :}
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Hopefully, 5.1 for all the Quarks will be released at the same time: U.S. Droid Turbo XT1254, U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, International Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225.
Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 has had 5.0.2 since March. But I knew Motorola wouldn't give us 5.1 until Verizon signed off on 5.1 for the Droid Turbo.
Also would be great for Motorola to post kernel source code to Motorola's development GitHub sooner rather than later, for custom ROMs. Back in 2014, took them up to 3 months to post the source code for some updates -- which they are obligated to release under Android license.
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Hopefully, 5.1 for all the Quarks will be released at the same time.
Also would be great for Motorola to post kernel source code to Motorola's development GitHub sooner rather than later, for custom ROMs. Back in 2014, took them up to 3 months to post the source code for some updates -- which they are obligated to release under Android license.
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GPL license actually and there is a gotcha in it: there must be an official request for it first and the stipulation of it being released in a reasonable amount of time is open to interpretation. On top of that, they are not required to deliver it digitally.
GPL has all sorts of unfortunate loopholes and GNU won't take people to court who violate it.
I don't suppose anyone knows the chances of us getting to keep root with this update....
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Hopefully, 5.1 for all the Quarks will be released at the same time: U.S. Droid Turbo XT1254, U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, International Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225.
Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 has had 5.0.2 since March. But I knew Motorola wouldn't give us 5.1 until Verizon signed off on 5.1 for the Droid Turbo.
Also would be great for Motorola to post kernel source code to Motorola's development GitHub sooner rather than later, for custom ROMs. Back in 2014, took them up to 3 months to post the source code for some updates -- which they are obligated to release under Android license.
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I don't suppose anyone knows the chances of us getting to keep root with this update....
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If you have unlocked bootloader or bootloader than can be unlocked -- like the U.S Moto Maxx XT1250 and International Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 -- then yes you can keep root.
For the other Quark phone, the Droid Turbo XT1254, will depend on the magic of those skilled people who did it the first time -- IF you accept the OTA.
Down in the development section, there's a rooted ROM for the Droid Turbo. Guy says you can flash his ROM, he will keep it updated to 5.1, and don't take the OTA:
Computerfreek274 _ Turbo _ 1.5.5B All in One 5/22/2015
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So as everyone probably knows by now it was announced that the Turbo will receive 5.1 starting on June 10th. Now Computerfreek I have really enjoyed your images and love the edits and tweaks you have made to it so my question is will you be bringing all those changes and tweaks to the new 5.1 base as it has been said before that it may be possible that the Mofo and flash system should/might still work even with lollipop. If thats true will this continue as a 5.1 rom. I know I personally would LOVE to see that and continue to support and promote this great image.
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as far as ota update we will just all have to see. I know there is a 99% chance that if you do take the update mofo will not and will never work. Verizon is working hard with moto to close the loophole.
I say stay away from an ota update for a week or so. This way you can keep your loophole open.
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Yes I do this. We will run 5.1 just as long as you do not flash the boot loader with the ota and yes we will be rooting and tweaking 5.1 if it all works out.
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I'll believe this when I see it. There's no way Motorola and Verizon would move forward with this update without a fairly large soak test. Too much stuff changed going from 4.4-5.x. 6/10 is a week away, and there's no sign soak test surveys have gone out yet, so I doubt we'll even see a soak start by that date.
I do think we're getting close to v5.1. 6/10 might have even been the target date for the release or a soak. Or maybe it's a target date for the final build which will eventually go out in a soak.
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I'll believe this when I see it. There's no way Motorola and Verizon would move forward with this update without a fairly large soak test. Too much stuff changed going from 4.4-5.x. 6/10 is a week away, and there's no sign soak test surveys have gone out yet, so I doubt we'll even see a soak start by that date.
I do think we're getting close to v5.1. 6/10 might have even been the target date for the release or a soak. Or maybe it's a target date for the final build which will eventually go out in a soak.
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I'm skeptical too, but I will be happy to be wrong.
July 2015 was the original leaked schedule for Lollipop (after 5.0.2 was scrapped) for the Droid Turbo, leaked by someone back in March with supposed inside information. This is what I posted May 16:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60781393&postcount=91
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About two months ago, someone said they had inside info on the Verizon update schedule, and Droid Turbo would get Lollipop in July.
I thought they were joking. Now, it doesn't seem so funny.
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So, we'll see.
So I wonder when we get the android 5.1 update will it be android 5.1 or will it be android 5.1.1
Or when we do get the upgrade may be it will be android 5.1 at 1st and then get android 5.1.1 has a update fix later on
I'm sure Moto will find 5.1.1 too hard to upgrade to and too much work so they will just skip to M next year. :|
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I'm sure Moto will find 5.1.1 too hard to upgrade to and too much work so they will just skip to M next year. :|
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95% of phones out there won't be getting an M update this year, so you are probably right.
Well, I am looking forward to the release sometime in July. Fingers crossed. I think with the hardware power of this device, getting a software makeover will make it more attractive. Especially, considering they lowered the price. The more they sell, the more likely they are to support it going forward.
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I'm sure Moto will find 5.1.1 too hard to upgrade to and too much work so they will just skip to M next year. :|
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You think we'll get M? I doubt it unless someone we got ROMs somehow.
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You think we'll get M? I doubt it unless someone we got ROMs somehow.
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Yeah I am sure they will give it M but that will be it. We will need to unlock the bootloader to go any further.
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...d-upgrade-report-card-marshmallow.html?page=2
A BIG FAT "F"
Length of time for upgrade to reach current flagship: 65 days (51.6/60 points)
Length of time for upgrade to reach previous-gen flagship: 74 days for the unlocked model -- though with all U.S. carrier models abandoned (0/30 points)
Communication: Poor (0/10 points)
An Android manufacturer has never fallen as fast and hard as what we've seen with Motorola these past couple years. In a matter of months, Moto went from being the shining example of what an Android device-maker should be to being a bitter disappointment Android fans won't soon forgive. (So much for that "nothing will change" transition in ownership, right?)
Following last year's 65% "D" grade for Android upgrades, the Lenovo-owned Motorola gets a big fat embarrassing "F" for the mess it made of this year's Marshmallow rollout. While it did do a reasonably decent (though nowhere near the standard it had maintained in the past) job at getting Android 6.0 out to its current and previous-gen flagships, it did so with one major asterisk: the outright abandonment of all U.S. carrier models of its barely-one-year-old 2014 device.
Worse yet, Motorola stayed insultingly silent on the subject, without so much as an explanation -- let alone any sort of attempt to make things right with customers who had bought into its "ongoing reliable upgrades" message. It was a slap in the face to those who trusted the company, and even if Motorola recovers and manages to do decently well moving forward, it's an incident smartphone shoppers would be wise to remember.
They were excellent when it came to 2013 devices...but those were before the Lenovo takeover if I remember correctly
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In the past days the MOTO always says the Verzion Carrier test so long a time,just like droid1/2/3/4 and xt910/926/1030 and so on..
Now its becoming a department of lenovo, i dont think there are still enough development guys who can work with Verzion ones...
So i doubt the 6.0 would finally come with a final-final day or never come out
I really think we won't see it, like the Moto X Play 2014. We'll just get an out-of-the-blue message saying "SORRY". My next phone will be a Nexus, i'm done with Motonovo
Yep, l thinking about a Nexus myself, and see what Project Fi is all about. Sick of Verizon also.
Yea i'm on the same boat as you guys. Nexus may be my next phone.
im still not ready to leave my turbo, i dont need their updates. we have our own right here.
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In the past days the MOTO always says the Verzion Carrier test so long a time,just like droid1/2/3/4 and xt910/926/1030 and so on..
Now its becoming a department of lenovo, i dont think there are still enough development guys who can work with Verzion ones...
So i doubt the 6.0 would finally come with a final-final day or never come out
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In some cases it may be VZW holding things up...but the 2013 Droids received their updates faster than any phones outside of the Nexus devices...
That was in the Google days, and when Moto first started using the near Vanilla builds of Android...
They are still as close to Vanilla as you can get, but what has changed is Lenovo...
So you do the math
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In some cases it may be VZW holding things up...but the 2013 Droids received their updates faster than any phones outside of the Nexus devices...
That was in the Google days, and when Moto first started using the near Vanilla builds of Android...
They are still as close to Vanilla as you can get, but what has changed is Lenovo...
So you do the math
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i think the lenovo has make every dev-guys to run their VIBE rom project，their 2014 device named k3note has already update to mm。
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I think people need to realize it's not motos fault! Talk to Verizon about your updates because Verizon does in fact add their bloat apps which in turn takes longer. Google has in fact release the source code for mm. Just disappoints me to see people hating on moto over something they have little to no control over.
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I think people need to realize it's not motos fault! Talk to Verizon about your updates because Verizon does in fact add their bloat apps which in turn takes longer. Google has in fact release the source code for mm. Just disappoints me to see people hating on moto over something they have little to no control over.
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No, both are equally at fault. If it were only on Verizon then the non Turbo branded quark devices would already be updated.
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I think people need to realize it's not motos fault! Talk to Verizon about your updates because Verizon does in fact add their bloat apps which in turn takes longer. Google has in fact release the source code for mm. Just disappoints me to see people hating on moto over something they have little to no control over.
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VZW had no problem pushing the updates for the 2013 Droids...they were the first non-nexus phones to get updates...
Wanna know what the difference was? Those phones were made when Google owned Motorola...our phones are under the control of Lenovo...
I have no love for VZW...and while they may slow things down in many cases, the fact remains...if a quality update is delivered to them, they will push it out...
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Not quite Metfanant the MotoX 2013 got updated quickly but the Droid Maxx/Ultra always lagged way behind.
In the case of the Turbo all of the other major 2014 flagships on Verizon such as G3, Galaxy S5, One M8 have seen updates to Android M. These are also all older devices than Turbo which makes it even worse. The reality is that the overall user experience will be very similar to what we have now but we at least deserve the bug fixes and security patches with the latest OS.
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Not quite Metfanant the MotoX 2013 got updated quickly but the Droid Maxx/Ultra always lagged way behind.
In the case of the Turbo all of the other major 2014 flagships on Verizon such as G3, Galaxy S5, One M8 have seen updates to Android M. These are also all older devices than Turbo which makes it even worse. The reality is that the overall user experience will be very similar to what we have now but we at least deserve the bug fixes and security patches with the latest OS.
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No sir...
The Moto X update to Kit Kat was pushed out starting Nov 19th according to this article...and it was the FIRST to get it...
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013...ryone-by-updating-its-moto-x-to-kitkat-first/
Just a month later the update had finished soak testing and was starting to get pushed to the Droid line...
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/12/1...-4-kit-kat-update-starting-today/#more-127805
I wouldn't call that lagging way behind at all...it was still quicker than most phones...
As I've always said...VZW sucks, but they had no problem getting updates out to Moto devices when Google ran the show...so I blame Lenovo...
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Droid Maxx2 update is rolling out. I guess (hope&prey) we are next in line..
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Droid Maxx2 update is rolling out. I guess (hope&prey) we are next in line..
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Yeah I saw that too, the Maxx 2 came out in Oct and I think this is its first update. I used one briefly but it had screen issues so ended up returning it for another turbo.
Just filled out a droid turbo soak test survey let's hope this is a good sign of things to come
I also received an invitation for this.
I thought I signed up for these, but have never gotten one. I really hope this means we get Marshmallow soon!
I guess they didn't like my feedback from the last soak. I haven't gotten anything.
So i was on lenovo forums and found this (its for 1575 btw):
"Ok, so I've seen all the posts and comments. *I know Moto / Lenovo does not comment on Impending updates.
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However.
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When I called Moto Support Yesterday, I was told by two different reps that this phone's update schedule has changed, and it will no longer be recieving 7.0, or any further updates above 6.01, other than google supplied security updates.
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Even funnier, when I asked how I was supposed to get my promised update, the rep told me to Unlock my bootloader and "Google for a nougat update, Just be carefull of hacked versions" (NOT Kidding)
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When I asked for an ID or other information so I could track the seconnd call, I recieved reference number*170605-001691.
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What u guys think?
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Regular Motorola Lenovo support people have no idea and are not in the loop on updates. That is why if and when you are chosen for beta test you are told not to call them.
Since the main Nougat thread was needlessly closed, I haven't been able to keep track: has 7.0 rolled out for the XT1572 everywhere (i.e., across all of Europe) or are some major countries still waiting?
If it's rolled out everywhere else, there's absolutely no reason to think the XT1575 will ever receive Nougat. Why would there be a multi-week or multi-month gap for a device that's essentially identical? It probably has to do with CDMA issues and/or carriers demanding $$ for an approval process before they allow Nougat-ified 1575's on their network.
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Since the main Nougat thread was needlessly closed, I haven't been able to keep track: has 7.0 rolled out for the XT1572 everywhere (i.e., across all of Europe) or are some major countries still waiting?
If it's rolled out everywhere else, there's absolutely no reason to think the XT1575 will ever receive Nougat. Why would there be a multi-week or multi-month gap for a device that's essentially identical? It probably has to do with CDMA issues and/or carriers demanding $$ for an approval process before they allow Nougat-ified 1575's on their network.
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The main thread was closed from all of the arguing and was intended to keep track of the XT1575 update. Since nothing new was happening for months, it only made sense to lock it to save the admins from getting another headache from cleaning the thread again. It would be nice to have a good place to see where else the XT1572's have been getting updates though
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Since the main Nougat thread was needlessly closed, I haven't been able to keep track: has 7.0 rolled out for the XT1572 everywhere (i.e., across all of Europe) or are some major countries still waiting?
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XT1570 Style (China)
Still on Lollipop, no updates expected
XT1572 Style
UK - Not yet
EU - Most (supposedly not all variants yet)
Asia - Yes
Latin America - Yes
XT1575 Pure
North America - Not yet
And the main Nougat thread needed to be closed, it had to be cleaned by Mods several times a week because of constant arguing, bickering, whining, and needless Moto bashing that even got rather hostile at times. Leave to a few to ruin it for everyone.
One of Motorola forum administration said, that rep provided a wrong information, and they "recruite" him better. No official info about cancellation of update was provided, so I think we have a small hope.
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One of Motorola forum administration said, that rep provided a wrong information, and they "recruite" him better. No official info about cancellation of update was provided, so I think we have a small hope.
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Seriously? We will get the update... The last "beta" was just sent to testers only a few weeks ago (early August I believe) because they were still having issues with Nougat on the XT1575, and once it has been approved and found to be stable it is usually rolled within 30 days.
The mentioned "obsolete" and "we are not getting an update per customer service" is crap, and has been CLEARLY disproved on Moto's official forums... did a rep say that? Apparently they did, but they were flat out wrong... they did not have the knowledge or the authority to do so.
TBH, this update for the Pure has been a PR nightmare for Moto... they don't talk about it (which is not new, Moto has been tight lipped about software updates since before Google bought them) and it is taking a ridiculously long time to get a stable ROM, the beta testers have had significant issues with several builds, even hard brick issues early on when performing a factory reset.
Although I get people's frustration, how do you think people would feel if they they got an update, then did a factory reset for whatever reason, and the device bricked because of it?
I know it sucks... but seriously what is it going to do for you? Other than a few gimmicks that Nougat has that Marshmallow does not, the update does NOTHING for this device, no new camera API, no Vulcan support, no VoLTE, no Pixel Launcher, not even updated Moto apps. You get multi-window which honestly barely has a usable function, and clear all in recents, which is also not really important, and Google Allo added at the system level (yeah, OK, nobody uses it I know).
Patience, it will come when it's ready... I honestly don't care anymore if it comes or not because by the end of the year I will be moving on to something else since this one will be pushing 20 months for me and it is just time to move on.
I'm on an XT1572 Style, which I purchased online -- I'm guessing diverted from EU markets, since the update announcements were always in French. Nougat 7.0 has made this phone unbearable to use -- 1-3sec lags on most interface interactions, and up to 5 seconds when it feels like it. I've followed the advice from Moto support to fix it, including a hard factory reset. I agree with the post above that 7.0 adds very little value to the phone. I'm angry enough to look into a consumer law action against Motorola for the replacement value. And there is no way in hell I will be buying another Moto device -- looking hard at the OnePlus 3T.
Just received nougat 7.0 this morning for my moto x pure edition. Installed the software in 30 min. Noticed the app files are larger. Everything runs smoothly so far. The phone is a XT1575 32GB. It was a very long wait. Located in Coeur D Alene, ID. Jerry Purchased from Best Buy, unlocked, Retail
So, last year we didn't really succeed to reach the goal of the petition to Motorola to upgrade our phones to Nougat.
This year, I believe that Moto will see this request and make an Official Oreo for the Moto G³/Turbo Edition.
Please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/2xT6skv
It may seem hopeless by now, but the hope dies last. A Christmas miracle may occur!
I hate to say this ,but this ain't gonna happen bro.No Christmas miracle this year.
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I hate to say this ,but this ain't gonna happen bro.No Christmas miracle this year.
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That just seems to be the case. But don't be that negative. Let's be honest - we won't lose anything if we at least try. It won't matter for me, personally, if Moto decides to not update the phone. But it's important for the other users. Some of them may be tech-savy but just don't want to risk damaging their device. Others may just want a stock variant of a ROM available in XDA. and the non-techsavy people don't care about updates because they don't understand them anyway. If Moto doesn't push the update to the people that don't understand computers, those people may think their battery life is worse than the other phones because Moto G³ is "a bad phone". They don't care about software. Everyone knows friends like this. But the Moto G³ is not an obsolete device. It has nice specs for Android Oreo, and even better specs for Android GO.
So, I personally believe that Moto will at least start to think, whether or not they should abandon their next phones after several months.
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That just seems to be the case. But don't be that negative. Let's be honest - we won't lose anything if we at least try. It won't matter for me, personally, if Moto decides to not update the phone. But it's important for the other users. Some of them may be tech-savy but just don't want to risk damaging their device. Others may just want a stock variant of a ROM available in XDA. and the non-techsavy people don't care about updates because they don't understand them anyway. If Moto doesn't push the update to the people that don't understand computers, those people may think their battery life is worse than the other phones because Moto G³ is "a bad phone". They don't care about software. Everyone knows friends like this. But the Moto G³ is not an obsolete device. It has nice specs for Android Oreo, and even better specs for Android GO.
So, I personally believe that Moto will at least start to think, whether or not they should abandon their next phones after several months.
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Hope developers soon bring ROM of Android GO for osprey.Just imagine how fast our device will be.LOVE FOR OSPREY ?
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Hope developers soon bring ROM of Android GO for osprey.Just imagine how fast our device will be.LOVE FOR OSPREY
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There is a fully-fledged Android Oreo ROM available. There is no reason why you would want Android GO. It's a water-downed version of Android Oreo. I said Android GO as a stock ROM if it is better for the Moto G³.
The moto G4 probably won't get oreo.. why would our device get it?
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The moto G4 probably won't get oreo.. why would our device get it?
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Because it didn't get Nougat.
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Because it didn't get Nougat.
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Yeah, that won't happen any time soon.. this is lenovo remember? Also no company has ever bumped a device for example from 5.0 to 7.0, as far as i know.
Hmm... That may be the case here, too (I'm 98% sure). But the thing is - Moto should learn from their mistakes. I think that it's a mistake to guarantee "2 year full support" and then dump the device after just several months.
It won't happen, stop wasting time
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I know it won't happen
I don't even believe it. The thing is, there should be somethig to catch Motorola's eyes. They actually still want to do only one major OS upgrade per device. Source - Motorola Official Blog - Say hello to Android Oreo:
Since the time of posting this, we have learned of some errors in our marketing materials around Android O upgrades for moto g4 Plus. It’s our general practice for the moto g family to get one major OS upgrade per device, so it wasn’t originally planned for Android O. But it’s important to us we keep our promises, so in addition to the N upgrade it has already received, we will be upgrading moto g4 Plus to Android O. Because this is an unplanned upgrade, it will take some time to fit into our schedule, we’ll update our software upgrade page when we have more info.
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I don't even believe it. The thing is, there should be somethig to catch Motorola's eyes. They actually still want to do only one major OS upgrade per device. Source - Motorola Official Blog - Say hello to Android Oreo:
Since the time of posting this, we have learned of some errors in our marketing materials around Android O upgrades for moto g4 Plus. It’s our general practice for the moto g family to get one major OS upgrade per device, so it wasn’t originally planned for Android O. But it’s important to us we keep our promises, so in addition to the N upgrade it has already received, we will be upgrading moto g4 Plus to Android O. Because this is an unplanned upgrade, it will take some time to fit into our schedule, we’ll update our software upgrade page when we have more info.
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Well, every older Moto G device (falcon, titan) recieved 2 major OS updates (falcon: Android Kitkat and Lollipop) (Titan: Lollipop and Marshamallow), meaning that the Moto G 2015 family (osprey and merlin) are the first and only moto g family to recieve only 1 major OS update. The G4 Play and the Moto X Style have the same or lower specs than the Moto G3 and G3 Turbo, but they DID recieve nougat, so the "too low specs" answer is just a lie. I personally own this device, and I´m using the 8GB version, wich might be a little too slow for Nougat or Oreo, but the 16GB and Turbo Variants would run those OS without any problem.
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Well, every older Moto G device (falcon, titan) recieved 2 major OS updates (falcon: Android Kitkat and Lollipop) (Titan: Lollipop and Marshamallow), meaning that the Moto G 2015 family (osprey and merlin) are the first and only moto g family to recieve only 1 major OS update. The G4 Play and the Moto X Style have the same or lower specs than the Moto G3 and G3 Turbo, but they DID recieve nougat, so the "too low specs" answer is just a lie. I personally own this device, and I´m using the 8GB version, wich might be a little too slow for Nougat or Oreo, but the 16GB and Turbo Variants would run those OS without any problem.
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Well, considering we got android oreo custom roms means that we DO have the specs for the updates, i think we will even get android 9 thabks to our developers. (I'm also on the 8Gb model, i'm out of space for sure but oreo runs perfectly)
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Well, considering we got android oreo custom roms means that we DO have the specs for the updates, i think we will even get android 9 thabks to our developers. (I'm also on the 8Gb model, i'm out of space for sure but oreo runs perfectly)
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Well, i havent tested oreo on this device yet, because it is in alpha and this is my daily driver. But i believe your word
I'm running Oreo now. Why waste time on something that will never happen?
KrisM22 said:
I'm running Oreo now. Why waste time on something that will never happen?
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Never say never