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Lollipop

So with the second gen moto G and X starting to get lollipop, how much longer do you guys think untill we start seeing our soak tests?

Is the Verizon Moto X and G getting the update or just the gsm version? If the Verizon Moto X is getting it, then it shouldn't too much longer for us. maybe a few weeks I would guess.

Nope just unlocked gsm versions. I'm thinking January if moto keeps with their quick updates like last year.
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verizon probably needs some time to prepare the bloatwares

Let's hope xposed will be compatible with ART by then. Who knows, maybe a Lollipop based AOSP ROM will be released before Verizon's. Either way, not in a big hurry since my phone is pretty much running all Lollipop Gapps. The only thing not updated is the dialer.

Johnny Wong said:
Let's hope xposed will be compatible with ART by then. Who knows, maybe a Lollipop based AOSP ROM will be released before Verizon's. Either way, not in a big hurry since my phone is pretty much running all Lollipop Gapps. The only thing not updated is the dialer.
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droid maxx will probably get the update in about a week or two...werent the 2013 droids the first to get 4.4.4? even before nexus if i remember right...
either way im really loving an improved battery and LTE on T-mobile on my droid maxx after the su5 23.3.24 update

My guess is that the 2013 Droids won't see Lollipop until 2015. Motorola will want to update the 2014 Moto X, the 2014 Moto G, and the 2013 Moto X, maybe the 2013 Moto G and E, and Verizon will want to update the Turbo, before both get around to the Ultra/Maxx/Mini. The 2012 Droids (Razr M and Razr HD series) got a KitKat update in May. Hopefully the update will get to the 2013 Droids before next May, but I think we still have to wait for those other phones to be updated first.

In depth review of Lollipop: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/11/android-5-0-lollipop-thoroughly-reviewed/

Based on Nexus reviews(6) Lollipop has integrated Google Now with hot word detection so the Moto Assist app will be obsolete. It also means much quicker operation without the extra app handing off data to Google Now.

bwheelies said:
Based on Nexus reviews(6) Lollipop has integrated Google Now with hot word detection so the Moto Assist app will be obsolete. It also means much quicker operation without the extra app handing off data to Google Now.
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At the expense of more battery drain. I think I'll stick with touchless controls/Moto Voice and its use of the low power processor. (The assist app announces text messages and voice calls while you're driving, so I think you mean Moto Voice...)

bwheelies said:
Based on Nexus reviews(6) Lollipop has integrated Google Now with hot word detection so the Moto Assist app will be obsolete. It also means much quicker operation without the extra app handing off data to Google Now.
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well I don't know about your phone but my droid Maxx runs faster with a cyst it gets to Google faster and Google runs faster than going straight from Google yeah may be weird but it does

Motorola says the update is ready just waiting for carrier approval. Hopefully this means they will soak test soon.

nicotheandroidguy said:
Motorola says the update is ready just waiting for carrier approval. Hopefully this means they will soak test soon.
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Huh? Haven't seen this news yet. Do you have a source?

jaydotelloh said:
Huh? Haven't seen this news yet. Do you have a source?
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Yeah it says pending partner (Verizon) support. https://motorola-global-portal.cust...iZHltTzNmOW0iLCJzZXNzaW9uSUQiOiJ5VU5uM2Y5bSJ9

http://motorola-blog.blogspot.in/201...inkId=12303485
Moto Maxx now has a soak test for Lollipop. So, Turbo should be next and then we can get it on the Maxx.

s_u_n said:
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.in/201...inkId=12303485
Moto Maxx now has a soak test for Lollipop. So, Turbo should be next and then we can get it on the Maxx.
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May not be so soon according to this. If I understand correctly that the Droid Ultra/Maxx has the same processor as the 2013 Moto X but someone correct me if I am wrong on that.
On the downside, Motorola tweeted via its official support Twitter account about the status of the Moto X (2013) Lollipop update, suggesting that it was still some way off.
Motorola Support @MotorolaSupport
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@ac2k9 Moto X (1st Gen) will get L, but chipset requires more effort. We're working to deliver satisfactory experience, performance.
2:21 PM - 9 Feb 2015
The 'L' in the tweet is referring to Lollipop, and the chipset in question is the Snapdragon S4 Pro.
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Tweet link
https://twitter.com/MotorolaSupport/status/564881795767095298
Story
http://www.androidpit.com/moto-e-and-moto-maxx-android-lollipop-update-incoming

Id sure like to know where the lollipop update is for the droid maxx, mini and ultra.

fix-this! said:
Id sure like to know where the lollipop update is for the droid maxx, mini and ultra.
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Or "If" it is... Seriously, at this point I am hoping that they do make us wait till 5.1.. With the reports of fixes and improvements, it will be worth it...
Here is my theory why: Our phones are reaching the outer edges of carrier,OEM and Google support. If we get 5.0, 5.01 or 5.02,,, we may not see another update beyond that. We could be stuck with whatever they give us for good. I am checking like everyone else for the update, but aside from my own personal desire for instant gratification, I believe we may be better off to not get it with a shot at 5.1...
This is very difficult for me since this is the first Android device I have had with no unlocked bootloader or root. But the phone still rocks pretty hard.

fix-this! said:
Id sure like to know where the lollipop update is for the droid maxx, mini and ultra.
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Seriously, it's not coming until after the Droid Turbo, and almost certainly after the 2013 moto x on Verizon. Neither phone is even in a soak test right now.
Last year the 2012 Droids got KitKat in may. I'd say that's the earliest the Maxx gets Lollipop this year.

doogald said:
Seriously, it's not coming until after the Droid Turbo, and almost certainly after the 2013 moto x on Verizon. Neither phone is even in a soak test right now.
Last year the 2012 Droids got KitKat in may. I'd say that's the earliest the Maxx gets Lollipop this year.
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not positive we will even get it tbh. glad this isn't my personal device, just a work phone.

Moto Maxx in Soak Test in Brazil

So i just asked motorola support this morning about Moto Maxx and they told me that a very limited number of people already received Lollipop. It's coming :victory:

I wouldn't get too excited about it. To me, it seems like a pretty standard answer that they would give about any model from the Moto line.
But, yeah, let's hope the update reaches us before the end of the year!

videtonator said:
I wouldn't get too excited about it. To me, it seems like a pretty standard answer that they would give about any model from the Moto line.
But, yeah, let's hope the update reaches us before the end of the year!
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I know but i asked specifically for Moto Maxx .

Threw that into translate for those of us who don't speak Portuguese:
In the first phase of the testing process, Motorola began updating the new Android (Lollipop 5.0) for a very limited number of customers.
Motorola recommends that users stay tuned entire information disclosed on his blog and official profiles on social networks to monitor the availability of updating the products in Brazil.
In addition, the information may also be viewed through the link:
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Lollipop is coming on Moto Maxx soon

read this
https://plus.google.com/110587026141482969464/posts/djnUrH3b4cc
i don t know how much will take "soon" but it s a step forward.

danger2u said:
read this
https://plus.google.com/110587026141482969464/posts/djnUrH3b4cc
i don t know how much will take "soon" but it s a step forward.
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He said the same for Moto G 2014 and its soak test came out pretty soon!!! Hope some Maxx user is rooted and can pull the update for us!

Did anyone bother to read the linked announcement?
https://motorola-global-portal-pt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/103358/p/30,6720,9151
More of the same. No date yet, but soon.

Gundabolu SC said:
He said the same for Moto G 2014 and its soak test came out pretty soon!!! Hope some Maxx user is rooted and can pull the update for us!
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He said the Moto G was rolling out that day, and it did. That was a little more specific.

adrynalyne said:
Did anyone bother to read the linked announcement?
https://motorola-global-portal-pt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/103358/p/30,6720,9151
More of the same. No date yet, but soon.
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Does the link open Moto G 2014 or is it just me??

Gundabolu SC said:
Does the link open Moto G 2014 or is it just me??
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Its the same one he linked in his g+ post.

adrynalyne said:
Its the same one he linked in his g+ post.
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Yeah i know... Even his G+page link points to the Moto G n not Moto Maxx.... guess its just me! thanks anyways...
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Pardon me... Google translate helped!

We need the Moto Maxx to be in its own forum.
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donsmith1964 said:
We need the Moto Maxx to be in its own forum.
Sent from my Droid Turbo using Tapatalk
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agreed

Somebody here posted a few weeks ago that he heard the Lollipop update would be coming late January. Sounds like that might be true

theineffablebob said:
Somebody here posted a few weeks ago that he heard the Lollipop update would be coming late January. Sounds like that might be true
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I hope so. LG G2 in Korea is already receiving Lollipop. Galaxy S5 in Europe as well. Probably Sony will deliver this month.
This is my first motorola phone and I bought it hoping updates would be nexus-like. I'm kind of disappointed.

respider said:
I hope so. LG G2 in Korea is already receiving Lollipop. Galaxy S5 in Europe as well. Probably Sony will deliver this month.
This is my first motorola phone and I bought it hoping updates would be nexus-like. I'm kind of disappointed.
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That's not the main reason I bought the phone. But it was definitely one of the reasons. Looking at the droids of last year and how fast they were updated on Verizon to KitKat I expected the same. but the initial launch of Kit Kat had a lot less bugs than the initial launch of lollipop. And FYI.. The s5 update is based on 5.0 not 5.2. Which is strange.

zathus said:
That's not the main reason I bought the phone. But it was definitely one of the reasons. Looking at the droids of last year and how fast they were updated on Verizon to KitKat I expected the same. but the initial launch of Kit Kat had a lot less bugs than the initial launch of lollipop. And FYI.. The s5 update is based on 5.0 not 5.2. Which is strange.
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Why would it be strange? Samsung based their OTA on the version available when they started working on it. 5.0.2 wasn't available until quite a bit later.

But 5.0.2 only in nexus, and motorola said will fix bugs in Lollipop base, so i think for motorola devices this is greatt

adrynalyne said:
Why would it be strange? Samsung based their OTA on the version available when they started working on it. 5.0.2 wasn't available until quite a bit later.
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As did htc but there lastest version is 5.0.2

I'm thinking that the Turbo will lag somewhat behind the Maxx due to the further burden of Verizons in house testing and validation. I wouldn't think too long since the Droid is minimal in its carrier bloat but I would be surprised to see the two released at the same time. It should be remembered that this is a Moto employee and he is talking about Moto devices, not Verizon devices. The latter will come out only after Verizons own testing which is another layer on top of what exists on the Maxx, Moto X, Moto G, etc.

zathus said:
As did htc but there lastest version is 5.0.2
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That is because they can't just restart OTA development every time a new build is released.
And no, HTC used 5.0.1.

adrynalyne said:
That is because they can't just restart OTA development every time a new build is released.
And no, HTC used 5.0.1.
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Yeah, I saw that later. PocketNow originally said it was 5.0.2. But the point was, even if it's 5.0.1 the release dates are almost identical between the s5 and the M8. I guess HTC is faster at getting a build together? Or because TouchWiz is so heavily modified.
Looking at all the other oems, touchwiz, sence, lg.. They all look like the ui was just slapped on to lollipop with out adjusting the ui to reflect material design. They all look out of place and unimpressive. Which is probably why I have a droid turbo and not an s5 lol

zathus said:
Yeah, I saw that later. PocketNow originally said it was 5.0.2. But the point was, even if it's 5.0.1 the release dates are almost identical between the s5 and the M8. I guess HTC is faster at getting a build together? Or because TouchWiz is so heavily modified.
Looking at all the other oems, touchwiz, sence, lg.. They all look like the ui was just slapped on to lollipop with out adjusting the ui to reflect material design. They all look out of place and unimpressive. Which is probably why I have a droid turbo and not an s5 lol
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I think a lot has to do with Samsung having such an enormous beast of an overlay, it really slows things. Lollipop also requires for everything to be compatible with ART, which means more work on the OEM's end (we can see how that can be an issue with the Turbo even now).
Then you also must account for the fact that Samsung is probably splitting resources amongst more devices to update. HTC just has a couple.
Lastly, from my rom dev days, I can honestly say that HTC has better developers than Samsung.

Motorola said to me, will comes soon, in final testing already

What happened to the soak test?

The droid turbo soak test was weeks ago.. Why aren't the rest of us getting an update of some kind. I don't care if it's a patch or 5.0, can someone just tell me why there hasn't been an update for the masses yet?

aka848 said:
The droid turbo soak test was weeks ago.. Why aren't the rest of us getting an update of some kind. I don't care if it's a patch or 5.0, can someone just tell me why there hasn't been an update for the masses yet?
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Was it truly weeks ago or was the leaked announcement weeks ago?

Emails were sent on January 28th

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Emails were sent on January 28th
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Again, does that confirm that the soak took place already? The Maxx users are saying their soak test was put on hold. Maybe it was for the Turbo as well?

aka848 said:
The droid turbo soak test was weeks ago.. Why aren't the rest of us getting an update of some kind. I don't care if it's a patch or 5.0, can someone just tell me why there hasn't been an update for the masses yet?
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I received the surveymonky email on Jan 28th., but what I think happened was they were originally gonna soak test 5.0 or 5.0.2 and then when google release 5.1 they changed their minds to just release 5.1 as the first lollipop update to the turbo. I could be wrong but it does seem like something changed, because normally there isn't this much of a gap between surveymonkey email and actual soak.

It got delayed. They ran into a few things last week, whether its bugs or VZ approval. Should see it later this week or early next week.

gaels75 said:
It got delayed. They ran into a few things last week, whether its bugs or VZ approval. Should see it later this week or early next week.
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Not to be rude but we've heard this before. Everyone that claims to KNOW something doesn't have a source.

theycallmerayj said:
Not to be rude but we've heard this before. Everyone that claims to KNOW something doesn't have a source.
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Its probably because there not allowed to say anything about something they may know about the thing they can't talk about, this would also include reveling sources about where said something was obtained.

pmekdahl01 said:
Its probably because there not allowed to say anything about something they may know about the thing they can't talk about, this would also include reveling sources about where said something was obtained.
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Good point. He seems pretty sure about this week or early next so maybe he has a source at Verizon/Moto and can't say.

For maxx invites comes a tree days agos, soak dont put hold, only forum get closed.

Maybe it will be 5.1 so that the droid turbo is the very first phone to have it here in the US

wadamean said:
Maybe it will be 5.1 so that the droid turbo is the very first phone to have it here in the US
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That would be great, wouldn't it? I hope this is the case.

aka848 said:
That would be great, wouldn't it? I hope this is the case.
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I'm just sitting here in the UK with my imported Droid Turbo waiting to get Lollipop to walk around as one of the few peeps in the UK with the device....come on Verizon!

Wiggz said:
I'm just sitting here in the UK with my imported Droid Turbo waiting to get Lollipop to walk around as one of the few peeps in the UK with the device....come on Verizon!
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Same here in Germany

I am in the Droid Turbo soak test personally. Let me say this, we know just as much as you do. A Motorola engineer recently made a post that they were facing delays and that he could not provide any further details. But they were working as hard as they could to bring us a release. For this delay, I REALLY hope it's Android 5.1. Otherwise, my image of Motorola's speed will be tarnished. Practically every flagship now is currently/has already gotten the update to Lollipop.

For maxx should arrives soon

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For maxx should arrives soon
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did u have more details??
maybe u received some email )) ^^ ??
u have Brasil or Puerto Rico version?

Honestly, I'm a little disappointed. One of the reasons I bought this phone was due to Motorola's timely software updates. Besides a few moto software tricks there's really nothing different. I know some people will say "don't buy a phone for what it might do," or "We want a stable build with no bugs." Seeing as most of their flagship phones and even budget phones are on 5.0 or higher, I'm disappointed. I get that Verizon has a big role in this but the Droid lineup seems to always to be in good favor with Verizon, but this is starting to get frustrating.
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danger2u said:
did u have more details??
maybe u received some email )) ^^ ??
u have Brasil or Puerto Rico version?
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Brazil, in think comes soon because of soak

I feel for the Motorola team
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I am in the Droid Turbo soak test personally. Let me say this, we know just as much as you do. A Motorola engineer recently made a post that they were facing delays and that he could not provide any further details. But they were working as hard as they could to bring us a release. For this delay, I REALLY hope it's Android 5.1. Otherwise, my image of Motorola's speed will be tarnished. Practically every flagship now is currently/has already gotten the update to Lollipop.
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Thanks! I had no idea that the soak was delayed. I thought they had delivered it to people and for some reason it was not getting pushed out to the rest of us. I am all for giving motorola time to squash all the bugs they need to, but I feel like they could be a little a bit more transparent.
If Motorola is trying to push 5.1, and anyone working there is reading this, thank you! I cannot imagine how frustrating it must be a developer at Motorola right now. This company has changed hands multiple times since the 18 month development cycle of this phone (thanks to Verizon's rules). These devs have likely been working day and night to produce a stable build of lillipop for Motorola's flagships devices, all while Google employees, formerly co-workers of these Motorola developers, have simultaneously been doing the same for the base lollipop build with significantly better resources at their disposal and without a time crunch. Just as these Motorola devs have made 5.0 stable 5.1 comes along fixing many of the issues that delayed 5.0 on our devices to begin with. Much of Motorola's dev work and code is thrown out in favor of using what Google provided in 5.1 and now these poor devs still have to work to make 5.1 work knowing that with each passing day every user is getting more frustrated with you.
THANK YOU DEVS, we appreciate you, and we understand. Be proud of the work you do, like those of you that worked on the original DROID, who felt confident enough to mold MOTOROLA ENGINEERING into the plastic under the batter cover. I hope to see the fruits of your labor soon.

NEVER AGAIN. Verizon phones, non mainstream super phones..

Ok, I love my Moto Maxx. I knew I will get limited support, limited developers support, even compared to its less capable cousin Moto X. But I didn't expect this much suffering.
People are trying to unlock bootloader, update, root, and months after months of struggles and hard work from our beloved contributing developers.
For the US Verizon customers, it was the bootload and root, then after months of trying they got it and it was the update they were promised by the end of 2014 which just arrived, then the cycle starts over.
For us, the international Moto Maxx users, we gambled big, the phone is only known in a few countries with no real developer support but it was (as I said before) a SuperPhone. Unlocking bootload and rooting for us wasn't that hard, but here we are waiting and waiting for the lollipop update (I'm still on 4.4.4) and for the work corporate apps I am using I cannot root or use CM sadly.
I hereby declare the Droid franchise developer and power users unfriendly. I would like to extend this to any phone that is not worldwide mainstream. I will think a million times before doing this to myself again, despite the battery and superior user experience.
My company offered to buy me an iphone 6 (lol) or a Samsung galaxy s6 or s6 edge and I said no and jumped through hoops to get approval to use my Moto Maxx. I regret this completely. The first chance I will get, I will revisit this, I might get lucky and get them to get me the new international version of Moto X 2015.
So yes, this is an open letter to Motorola and Verizon. This is a whiny complainy angry thread and you can all express your feelings about this here.
I am keeping an open mind and still giving Motorola another chance. After all they have tried hard to look at our user experience pain points and provide good solutions for it.
So I hope I have learned my lesson. I hope I don't fall for this trap again. Even if this means I lose touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display which became part of my daily routine.
What do you guys think? am I over reacting?

Kiwironic said:
Ok, I love my Moto Maxx. I knew I will get limited support, limited developers support, even compared to its less capable cousin Moto X. But I didn't expect this much suffering.
People are trying to unlock bootloader, update, root, and months after months of struggles and hard work from our beloved contributing developers.
For the US Verizon customers, it was the bootload and root, then after months of trying they got it and it was the update they were promised by the end of 2014 which just arrived, then the cycle starts over.
For us, the international Moto Maxx users, we gambled big, the phone is only known in a few countries with no real developer support but it was (as I said before) a SuperPhone. Unlocking bootload and rooting for us wasn't that hard, but here we are waiting and waiting for the lollipop update (I'm still on 4.4.4) and for the work corporate apps I am using I cannot root or use CM sadly.
I hereby declare the Droid franchise developer and power users unfriendly. I would like to extend this to any phone that is not worldwide mainstream. I will think a million times before doing this to myself again, despite the battery and superior user experience.
My company offered to buy me an iphone 6 (lol) or a Samsung galaxy s6 or s6 edge and I said no and jumped through hoops to get approval to use my Moto Maxx. I regret this completely. The first chance I will get, I will revisit this, I might get lucky and get them to get me the new international version of Moto X 2015.
So yes, this is an open letter to Motorola and Verizon. This is a whiny complainy angry thread and you can all express your feelings about this here.
I am keeping an open mind and still giving Motorola another chance. After all they have tried hard to look at our user experience pain points and provide good solutions for it.
So I hope I have learned my lesson. I hope I don't fall for this trap again. Even if this means I lose touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display which became part of my daily routine.
What do you guys think? am I over reacting?
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Every variant of this phone can be updated to Lollipop. Seems like your problem is your employer since the Maxx has an unlockable bootloader and CyanogenMod. Yeah the support for these devices has been horrible but oh well.

Cobra04 said:
Every variant of this phone can be updated to Lollipop. Seems like your problem is your employer since the Maxx has an unlockable bootloader and CyanogenMod. Yeah the support for these devices has been horrible but oh well.
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I would have considered CM if it had support for touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display. These are important to me, and some of the reason I went for the Moto Maxx. What you are saying is, I should give up most of the features I got this phone for just to get lollipop??? How convenient is that?
Motorola nor Verizon have anything to do with CM, my pain points are not coming from CM but from Motorola.

Kiwironic said:
Ok, I love my Moto Maxx. I knew I will get limited support, limited developers support, even compared to its less capable cousin Moto X. But I didn't expect this much suffering.
People are trying to unlock bootloader, update, root, and months after months of struggles and hard work from our beloved contributing developers.
For the US Verizon customers, it was the bootload and root, then after months of trying they got it and it was the update they were promised by the end of 2014 which just arrived, then the cycle starts over.
For us, the international Moto Maxx users, we gambled big, the phone is only known in a few countries with no real developer support but it was (as I said before) a SuperPhone. Unlocking bootload and rooting for us wasn't that hard, but here we are waiting and waiting for the lollipop update (I'm still on 4.4.4) and for the work corporate apps I am using I cannot root or use CM sadly.
I hereby declare the Droid franchise developer and power users unfriendly. I would like to extend this to any phone that is not worldwide mainstream. I will think a million times before doing this to myself again, despite the battery and superior user experience.
My company offered to buy me an iphone 6 (lol) or a Samsung galaxy s6 or s6 edge and I said no and jumped through hoops to get approval to use my Moto Maxx. I regret this completely. The first chance I will get, I will revisit this, I might get lucky and get them to get me the new international version of Moto X 2015.
So yes, this is an open letter to Motorola and Verizon. This is a whiny complainy angry thread and you can all express your feelings about this here.
I am keeping an open mind and still giving Motorola another chance. After all they have tried hard to look at our user experience pain points and provide good solutions for it.
So I hope I have learned my lesson. I hope I don't fall for this trap again. Even if this means I lose touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display which became part of my daily routine.
What do you guys think? am I over reacting?
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You can't really call yourself a power user and gloss over the fact you could have flashed Lollipop many months ago. It doesn't even have to be CM.

I don't get why your phone is still on 4.4.4. I'm running stock 5.0.2 with all the features that you like

Yawn.

I'm not sure why this is a surprise. The DX, released 5 years ago, and the next generations are on the same boat.
IMO, rooting and custom ROMs is not the same as it used to be as Android has taken so many steps forward.
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Moto MAXX XT1225 got stock Lollipop back in March, soon after Moto Turbo XT1225 (same device, same FCC ID) launched with Lollipop in India. 5.0.2.
I ran stock 5.0.2 for months on my Puerto Rico Moto Maxx, and on my Mexico Moto Maxx.
It was the Droid Turbo XT1254 stuck on 4.4.4, not the XT1225.
The stock 5.0.2 files are in the development section, if you want to flash them. For Brazil, Mexico and India.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3063470
Claro in Puerto Rico (and I think Chile, also) had a falling out with Motorola, so the Puerto Rico/Chile Moto Maxx never got an official OTA to 5.0.2. But if you have Puerto Rico XT1225, you just flash your phone to another country and get 5.0.2. Or flash the 5.0.2 image of your choice (Brazil, Mexico, India).
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Stock 5.1 is coming for the XT1225, but custom ROM 5.1.1 has been here for months. There's two custom 5.1.1 ROMs available -- one is AOSP, not CM based. So development support is here.
AOSP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3108708
CM 12.1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3060089
We also have cool boot logos and animations like these:
BOOT ANIMATION
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3141711
BOOT LOGO
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3065141
(Many more, just an example of each.)
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However, you say you can't run custom ROM, that you have to stay stock. Therefore, why have you not flashed stock 5.0.2 which has been available for the XT1225 since March?

I care less about CM for Quark but i am surprised to see that nobody released a stock based rom for our phones yet.

Semseddin said:
I care less about CM for Quark but i am surprised to see that nobody released a stock based rom for our phones yet.
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There's an AOSP one. I know, not exactly the same as "stock". But we do have two completely different custom 5.1.1 ROMs.
You can also run stock 5.0.2, root and run xposed/Gravity Box and get as few or as many custom ROM features you want... While remaining on stock.

I would be very fine if someone provided us a custom rom based on stock brazil build of maxx, just something like computerfreak provided to Turbo users. It is funny that what i wanted for my phone is already available for the bootloader locked variant and missing from our bootloader free variant. This very well explains the popularity of the device within people is the key to its development potencial.
edit : even opened a request thread for it but nobody gave a f. , even our maxx users, leave alone the uninterested developers.
i think we should collect 450$ and buy juacos's maxx to a developer who would be happily developing good stuff for us.

i totally agree, last year i got the droid maxx and it had little development but i thought that the moto maxx being released worldwide would have a lot of support, i really love motorola, but i dont like this, its like having a lamborgini that only you can drive, theres no much development, i regret trading my oneplus one, it even had better battery than my moto maxx, and worse camera but under same usage my battery lasted more than moto maxx and the speakers were louder, this year i think i will buy a moto x or the new oneplus two, its real sad to write this but its the truth. no more moto maxx or droid maxx for me.

So I change to Mexican rom to be able to get 5.0.2 and then what? I don't force upgrades unless I see a clear upgrade path. If then Motorola releases an 5.1 OTA upgrade from 4.4.4 for PR and not Mexico, then I am screwed. I don't take the downgrading risk.
Being a power user doesn't mean I go foolishly and pick the only upgrade path and not worry about the future. I don't gamble with my devices.
Anyway, yesterday Motorola has announced 5.0.2 for PR among many other versions. I will post the updates in this thread
International Moto Maxx 5.1 official update (Non Droid Turbo)

Kiwironic said:
So I change to Mexican rom to be able to get 5.0.2 and then what? I don't force upgrades unless I see a clear upgrade path. If then Motorola releases an 5.1 OTA upgrade from 4.4.4 for PR and not Mexico, then I am screwed. I don't take the downgrading risk.
Being a power user doesn't mean I go foolishly and pick the only upgrade path and not worry about the future. I don't gamble with my devices.
Anyway, yesterday Motorola has announced 5.0.2 for PR among many other versions. I will post the updates in this thread
International Moto Maxx 5.1 official update (Non Droid Turbo)
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Power users and developers absolutely gamble with their devices. What it really comes down to is not about being power user nor developer friendly, but instead you want frequent and fast updates. The only device that will give you that is a Nexus and at this time you can have that on Verizon too.
Your stance defies everything an unlocked bootloader stands for.

Kiwironic said:
So I change to Mexican rom to be able to get 5.0.2 and then what? I don't force upgrades unless I see a clear upgrade path. If then Motorola releases an 5.1 OTA upgrade from 4.4.4 for PR and not Mexico, then I am screwed. I don't take the downgrading risk.
Being a power user doesn't mean I go foolishly and pick the only upgrade path and not worry about the future. I don't gamble with my devices.
Anyway, yesterday Motorola has announced 5.0.2 for PR among many other versions. I will post the updates in this thread
International Moto Maxx 5.1 official update (Non Droid Turbo)
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As Mexico, Brazil and India factory unlocked phones got 5.0.2 first, I imagine they will get 5.1 first.
Under no scenario does Claro Puerto Rico phones get 5.1 and factory unlocked XT1225 (Mexico, Brazil, India) does not.
You say Motorola has just announced 5.0.2 for Puerto Rico Claro. Well, this is mid July. Factory unlocked has had it since March, and will soon get 5.1 stock.
You sound a little silly saying if you flash the XT1225 to another country image or another Android version, you can't flash back if you want. Many people have flashed to 5.0.2 to custom ROM 5.1 and back to 4.4.4 on the XT 1225. One guy -- @Fulbring -- said he's done it at least 5 times... See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61498706
Many flashed to India, then to Brazil, then to Mexico to see difference (if any) in performance. You can also downgrade back to 4.4.4.
I flashed my Puerto Rico Moto Maxx 4.4.4 to India 5.0.2 and then to CM 12.1 Lollipop 5.1. I could easily flash it back to Claro Puerto Rico 4.4.4, if I wanted.
There's instructions. You just have to read. @Jaocagomez wrote an excellent thread about all this. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3074724
The key is having an unlocked bootloader. Where people have gotten into trouble is trying to flash update with locked bootloader.

I guess you guys are really happy with what you got. I expressed my opinion and not going to change it to please you.
I think Motorola can do better than this, and I think we deserve better than this. I will leave you guys to give me more lessons about how to be a power user.

Kiwironic said:
I guess you guys are really happy with what you got. I expressed my opinion and not going to change it to please you.
I think Motorola can do better than this, and I think we deserve better than this. I will leave you guys to give me more lessons about how to be a power user.
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I'm not disagreeing that Motorola dropped the ball on the XT1225 with a narrow release, instead of a world wide release that would have included Europe, all of Asia, and Canada. It is a super phone, and Motorola made people jump through hoops to get it.
It should have been as widely released as the Moto X, or even better this is the phone Motorola should have released as the Moto X.
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But still running 4.4.4 on the XT1225 is your fault, not Motorola. This phone -- the XT1225 -- has had stock 5.0.2 since March on all factory unlocked phones and many Brazil and Mexico carriers and you refuse to flash it on your XT1225.
There's clear instructions on how to do it. Instead you are waiting for a specific carrier OTA, when you do not need to do so.
The XT1225 is the same device across all regions, all countries. The India Moto Turbo XT1225 IDENTICAL in every way to the Latin America Moto Maxx XT2225.
Many, many people in these threads have upgraded, downgraded 4.4.4 to 5.02 and back again, flashed images from different countries, to prove it's not hard -- since our bootloader can be unlocked. The Droid Turbo XT1254 owners WISH they had our advantage!

The only reason I did not change region as I mentioned before is to be sure about a good upgrade path. However, since all updates indicates that BR has the highest chance for 5.1 update, then I have just flashed stock BR. People report that they are able to upgrade then downgrade, while others report bricked on downgrade. A smart user knows that gpt doesn't like being downgraded, and so I will not try this path.
I don't want just to update to lollipop, first of all I do not want to lose themoto features I already have, flashing custom or CM will not help, as it doesn't support the stock moto features. 5.0.2 is buggy and less secure and I do not want to flash it unless I have evidence 5.1 is around the corner. (even before having corporate apps)
Here I am now with BR stock, OTA updates are not available, I think I will have to flash the OTA manually. Let's see how that goes.
Now, since I am being accused of being "unreasonable", the question here is, are you satisfied with how Motorola is handling the device??? You can answer this question (at least to yourself) or you can just blame things on me and lecture me on how to be a power user because you know all about it
Up to you.
Thanks to all of you who objectively expressed your opinion without the bullying attitude some adopt.

I've had just about every Samsung phone since the galaxy S2 and note 1. I've also had the old razor maxx by Motorola and it was horrible. I have the droid turbo un rooted and I have to say it's been the best phone I've ever had. It's fast, great battery, awesome features. I don't care to root anymore because I personally don't see an advantage to it. Please don't argue with me, it's just my point of view for me. I love LP so far. And since the camera update this phone to me is flawless. I think you may be over reacting a bit OP.

@MaxX folks around the world, since we didn't pay for root or bl unlock, maybe we could collect some money and donate a mint condition moto maxx device to a developer who would develop rom / kernel support for his & our devices.. We could have had the faux123 kernel, imagine that with 3900mah battery.