Z3+ SoC Temperature Limit to Prevent Overheating - Xperia Z4/Z3+ General

So I ran into this youtube video. Since I also have these two phones., I decided to do my own test and looks like S6 lets the SOC temperature to go over 70C while recording 4K video but Sony probably set the limit around 60C/65C for the whole camera app. Now that might be a good thing to ensure longevity of the phone, but some people might find it too conservative. So what do you guys think?
Edit: I think this limit only applies to the camera app. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I saw a temp reading of 70C (using CPU Z) after a 50 minute gaming session. Yet the game was not shut down at that point.

Battery drained to what level when you played games? Cause I saw a video within 3hrs and few minutes (I can't exactly remember) phone just shut down automatically.

Wow m glad to see that Sony Xperia Z3+ Beats Samsung S6.... great video...dude..

chesterr said:
Battery drained to what level when you played games? Cause I saw a video within 3hrs and few minutes (I can't exactly remember) phone just shut down automatically.
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I wasn't paying attention to battery level Did you just say you watched a 3hr long video? Battery life is less than Z2 in my case at this moment. I used to finish my day with 20% on Z2. On Z3+, it's like 10%. Also keep in mind Z3+ screen is a lot brighter. With similar brightness, the difference would be quite small.
I also checked out the GSMarena battery life rating. Their test is quite faulty as they just set brightness to 50% on all phones. 50% on Z2 would be 250 nits, for Z3+ it'd be 350 nits. They should set the brightness to the same absolute number in all tests.

schecter7 said:
I wasn't paying attention to battery level Did you just say you watched a 3hr long video? Battery life is less than Z2 in my case at this moment. I used to finish my day with 20% on Z2. On Z3+, it's like 10%. Also keep in mind Z3+ screen is a lot brighter. With similar brightness, the difference would be quite small.
I also checked out the GSMarena battery life rating. Their test is quite faulty as they just set brightness to 50% on all phones. 50% on Z2 would be 250 nits, for Z3+ it'd be 350 nits. They should set the brightness to the same absolute number in all tests.
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https://youtu.be/31ZxtSIu9sk
This is the video I was talking about. 3hrs 33mins phone shuts down.

chesterr said:
https://youtu.be/31ZxtSIu9sk
This is the video I was talking about. 3hrs 33mins phone shuts down.
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3.5Hours is for me quite good while playing intensive games. I would ran out 25% in half an hour on my Z2:/

This is on Z2 so you can check the same on Z3+ if it does the same and I just wanted to collaborate,
Don't wanna spoil this thread, wanted to help out
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Then I recorded a 4K video without SteadyShot, managed to record 4min 36secs and temp went to 70C

The cut off temperature is dependent on the silicon fab process. You can't say whether one is wrong or one is right unless you know what it is. Sony/Qualcomm use TSMC and Samsung is proprietary...

chesterr said:
This is on Z2 so you can check the same on Z3+ if it does the same and I just wanted to collaborate,
Then I recorded a 4K video without SteadyShot, managed to record 4min 36secs and temp went to 70C
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I was talking about the msm_temp, which is 57C in your case. Z3+ does the same thing, camera app closes when it hits ~55C/60C. The limit is just too low. I know it's there to prevent overheating. Ironically, this is exactly why some 'experts' think camera overheats :laugh: But it doesn't as 55C is much lower than the 70C temp that S6 hits after 5 minutes of 4K recording.
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The cut off temperature is dependent on the silicon fab process. You can't say whether one is wrong or one is right unless you know what it is. Sony/Qualcomm use TSMC and Samsung is proprietary...
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Well, as I mentioned in the first post, this exact same silicon hits 70C during gaming and the phone just runs fine. Surprisingly, the limit is ~60C only for the camera app.

Called Sony Support today
So i called sony support today to hear what they have to say about the heating issue.
Got in contact with a tech guy, who tried to explain to me some of the reasons this might happen.
He told me that apps\processes running in the background is helping the phone to overheat when we use a camera.
So i turned everything off, and testet, but still got the heating issues, and i don't even have to start recording. Just have to turn on the camera and see through the viewfinder, and the phone instantly start heating up.
He told me to try and run the phone in safemode, that way every 3rd party apps would be disabled, and run the camera. I did this, and still same issue. First i get a message about heating could lead the app to exit, and after some minutes, the app exits to cool down the phone.
So i have been hearing rumors about people talking about maybe sony is going to fix this issue in a software update by doing some throttling on cpu, but the only thing the tech guy knew about the next update 5.1 for z3+ is, that sony is going to extend the volume button functionality so that we can control all the volume setting.

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How hot does your phone get??

My new sgs2 get burning hot!! While using! I turn it towards the air conditioner for a few seconds ;-)
anyone else??
Any solution?
vinaymieux said:
My new sgs2 get burning hot!! While using! I turn it towards the air conditioner for a few seconds ;-)
anyone else??
Any solution?
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230c sometimes the BGA ICs fall off and I have to open the phone and reball the ICs and flow them back into place
I got my first SGS2 and it was really getting hot especially when streaming movies or playing games etc..i could not touch the back portion where the camera lense was. That phone had a 3g connectivity issue..so i had to return it..anyway while waiting for my usb jig to arrive..i bought another SGS2... using it the same way like my first phone, it never got hot till now..even playing games or streaming movies..it only gets warm and when i checked the battery temp..always showing about 36 to 38 degrees. On first phone, my record temp was 49 degrees and maybe it could have gone higher if i did not shut the phone down and cool it..
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Got it to 45C tops, when playing heavy games continuously.
It goes upto 45 for me as well. I felt it very hot just once on the second day after I got it where I feel it went above 45. After that I've been using a cover so I dont notice the heat much and since that its never gone aove 40. Its better if you install some temperature app to monitor. Battery circle is good as it gives the temperature as well as the battery percentage remaining.
The reason it heats up so much is because there is very little gap between the components and the phones body since its very thin so the heat gets transferred directly. But it cools down pretty easily.
Sometimes it could also be because of an app- in my case it was twitter. I login only with Wi-Fi and I have disable data so it kept trying to connect and that heated up the phone. After that experience, I always turn it off after I disconnect from Wi-Fi.
My phone get's VERY hot, will also crash and a yet to be unmentioned thing, is that if I turn it off an hour or so it feels the need to automatically turn itself on again. Anyhow I will be getting a replacement of the phone selling it as brand new and be getting a new different phone.
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I got my first SGS2 and it was really getting hot especially when streaming movies or playing games etc..i could not touch the back portion where the camera lense was. That phone had a 3g connectivity issue..so i had to return it..anyway while waiting for my usb jig to arrive..i bought another SGS2... using it the same way like my first phone, it never got hot till now..even playing games or streaming movies..it only gets warm and when i checked the battery temp..always showing about 36 to 38 degrees. On first phone, my record temp was 49 degrees and maybe it could have gone higher if i did not shut the phone down and cool it..
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Got the phone replaced reading this ;-)
Working ok till now! Lets see!
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My phone used to get hot initially when i used to use stock kernels... Then I flashed insecure kernels...one thing I noticed that when I flashed Chainfire's kernel, the phone tries to stay at an optimum cpu frequency even while playing games on it...I tested this using cpu spy... I found the phone rarely used 1200 Mhz frequency but still felt buttery smooth... when the phone constantly stays at 1200 Mhz, then cpu heats up, but when it is at 800 Mhz, it never heated up even with the heaviest usage... and ya, my phone is not under/overclocked
mine doesn't get tooo hot unless i've overclocked it or something, have a go at undervolting it, look at tekrak's overclock guide in android development for advice on that
it should help temperature problems, i hardly get them
I've done the air condition trick after it got too hot twice. But I had a doubt as to whether the sudden heating and cooling will have a damage on the phone and so stopped that. Now I just wait for it to cool down.
I've got it up to 55°, playing order & chaos over wi-fi, max brightness and connected to my charger supply.
Connecting it to the charger itself heats it up a lot so I can imagine what will happen over wifi with heavy gaming
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I've got it up to 55°, playing order & chaos over wi-fi, max brightness and connected to my charger supply.
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Didn't it damage your phone?
Got this phone just yesterday. Highest temps i've had so far while gaming over WiFi and charging: +39C CPU, +42C battery. Before launching any game i take the phone out of protective case and set CPU to 200-800MHz.
The only problem so far is Pocket Legends that freezes every few minutes. I found the thread about it here on XDA and on official website. This game was the main reason why i bought this phone. Wanted to play it on high-quality, large screen... Sigh
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Is the overheating issue common or only on some phones

I set my screen off of auto and up to 90, i cant do dim displays, and every time i run antutu it shuts down. could it be this one device or is it all the g3's
just you
I have very hot weather in the office (AC works bad). And after OTA update my phone was constantly rebooting like 2 min. after startup. I turned it off, waited 5 min to cool it down and then it worked fine...
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hello00 said:
just you
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wow, such a grown up and not childish reply.
I starting playing golfstar which works the phone pretty hard. At first I noticed how much better the frame rate was compared to my s4, after about 5mins the frame rate went to crap. I can only assume the phone was throttling due to heat. I never got any warnings though
I dont have this problem at all. Was running antutu benchmark two times in a row yesterday with 100% brightness without auto activated, AND charging, and it reached 36C. And its about 27C in this room.
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atistang said:
I starting playing golfstar which works the phone pretty hard. At first I noticed how much better the frame rate was compared to my s4, after about 5mins the frame rate went to crap. I can only assume the phone was throttling due to heat. I never got any warnings though
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ya i think im going to the s5 or the nexus 5, it keeps happening, so im done.
Are you only having a problem trying to do a benchmark at high brightness or are you having problems with regular use? I use Lux for autobrightness and it's bright enough for me and I have no issues with over heating.
Also, I wouldn't downgrade to the Nexus 5 if you're giving up on this phone. Not saying it's a bad phone, but it's comparatively a downgrade. A G2 would be a better downgrade than that or side grade to the S5 or M8 or whatever it is the HTC phone is called.
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partylikeaninjastar said:
Are you only having a problem trying to do a benchmark at high brightness or are you having problems with regular use? I use Lux for autobrightness and it's bright enough for me and I have no issues with over heating.
Also, I wouldn't downgrade to the Nexus 5 if you're giving up on this phone. Not saying it's a bad phone, but it's comparatively a downgrade. A G2 would be a better downgrade than that or side grade to the S5 or M8 or whatever it is the HTC phone is called.
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it was during the bench. But i did a battery pull and ran 3 straight benchmarks with no overheating issues. But then i did the no lag trick and tried again with it powering down
So the next best device is the m8 you say?
kyomagi said:
it was during the bench. But i did a battery pull and ran 3 straight benchmarks with no overheating issues. But then i did the no lag trick and tried again with it powering down
So the next best device is the m8 you say?
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I'd first suggest you just use the phone and not worry about the benchmarks. Benchmarks are meant to push the system so that could be why you're having problems. With daily use, even with the screen as bright as you have it, you may not notice any other issue. Give it a chance first.
And from reviews I've read, it does sound like the M8 is the next best. I almost considered it, but it's about the same size as the G3 with a smaller screen. Fortunately, I'm loving my G3.
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My phone shuts down when reading books on the beach in Turkey. I think the heat sensitiviness is one thing the latest patch should fix , I hope
Mine's never dimmed but it gets warm enough such that it starts throttling back to ~1.6 GHz. Definitely not hot though.
ya i was playing a game and it was def getting pretty hot
kyomagi said:
it was during the bench. But i did a battery pull and ran 3 straight benchmarks with no overheating issues. But then i did the no lag trick and tried again with it powering down
So the next best device is the m8 you say?
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The no lag trick, is no real trick, it turns off stuff to keep your device save from overheating, so, that's why it turned off afterwards.
I've kept the stock setting and never had any shutdowns or noticed any performance problems at games or dim, it gets warm sometimes at long gaming, but that's it.
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kyomagi said:
I set my screen off of auto and up to 90, i cant do dim displays, and every time i run antutu it shuts down. could it be this one device or is it all the g3's
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Have you tried factory reset from start up screen not settings?
i got a different phone, from a different batch, the phone gets hot still, but not too hot and its not shut down yet. so far so good. great phone
If you are returning a phone because it will shut down during a benchmark, then why did you get the phone in the first place?
kyomagi said:
I set my screen off of auto and up to 90, i cant do dim displays, and every time i run antutu it shuts down. could it be this one device or is it all the g3's
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You are not alone. Mine can get very hot when playing games (especially when charging), and I have to stop game to cool it down.
The situation gets worse when dual layer case installed. I have to remove the case to cool the phone down.
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dondavis007 said:
My phone shuts down when reading books on the beach in Turkey. I think the heat sensitiviness is one thing the latest patch should fix , I hope
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I am sure mine does "thermal throttling".
When the phone gets hot, Quadrant goes down to 12,xxx.
When the phone cools down, Quadrant goes back to normal (23,xxx).
TheAfroGuy said:
If you are returning a phone because it will shut down during a benchmark, then why did you get the phone in the first place?
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sorry, your question does not make sense.
I bought the phone because it had nice specs. i returned the phone because it was apparently defective. My new LG G3 has not overheated to shut down. got a little hot but not bad
I'm still wondering how are NOW the LG G3 are this moment? do they still have overheated issue?
How is the camera in 4k recording? is that fixed?
see video;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdwZbMFT5Pk

Z3 overheating problems?

I'm worried that because Sony made the Z3 smaller and thinner than the Z2 while overclocking the processor, it will run into heat problems quickly.
There's already a huge issue with Z2 recording in 4k as users have complained about overheating issues.
I was just watching this youtube hands on video and noticed this
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Im definately avoiding this phone if thats the case. Ill be going for note 4 instead with the snapdragon 805 processor which eats 4k for breakfast!
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Overheating while camera use is a huge issue in Z2 and sony has done nothing to resolve that. I went to the mall and checked xperia z2 in all shop abd outlets. All of them heated up n closed camera while taking simple pictures. 4k is another story. Its impossible to take normal pictures with z2 camera.
Sony needs to fix this, I had a Z2 for a few days and i have never experienced a blazing hot phone before like that Z2. It was really concerning hot.
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No issues on my z2 at all, not even 4k!!!!!
sfkaudi said:
No issues on my z2 at all, not even 4k!!!!!
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Not possible 5-8 min is max for 4K recording with my Z2. Every Z2 has limit for 4k recording thermal limit.
That device was very hot because it's charging too much time...
Charging is more heater than no charging when using.
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thanks for pointing this out, OP. i was looking for some indication one way or the other as to whether overheating would be an issue. could be, like @maple_mak was suggesting, that charging might be a contributing factor.
wonder what the app was though.
if it's GPS, that'll suck for Ingress + external battery pack.
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thanks for pointing this out, OP. i was looking for some indication one way or the other as to whether overheating would be an issue. could be, like @maple_mak was suggesting, that charging might be a contributing factor.
wonder what the app was though.
if it's GPS, that'll suck for Ingress + external battery pack.
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to answer your question, it was the camera app.
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That device was very hot because it's charging too much time...
Charging is more heater than no charging when using.
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Ding ding ding. This is the culprit.
I wouldn't be worried about overheating at all.
I dunno why more manufacturers don't make metal backed cases then like the motorola. I mean dissipate the heat. Glass is a thermal insulator
Mobe1969 said:
I dunno why more manufacturers don't make metal backed cases then like the motorola. I mean dissipate the heat. Glass is a thermal insulator
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Imagine, who will hold super heated metal case? :-S
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Imagine, who will hold super heated metal case? :-S
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In fact, glass spreads heat just like aluminium.
no it does not.
Glass has a thermal conductivity of below 1 (which say it barely conducts heat) where Aluminium has over 200 (good conductor). This value tells us how fast heat is conducted (or spreaded to use your words)
What you might have meant is thermal capacity, which is of absolutely no interest in this case. Thermal capacity for glass and aluminium is rather similar and tells you how much heat is needed to heat something up.
As the glass on the back of our phones is rather thin heat will still get trough pretty quickly.
If you talk about over-heating issues, you must also consider the fact that 4k recording is not as easy like how 1080p recording works. It requires a lot of processing power. So no matter what phone you are on, and you want to record 4k, there would definitely be this overheating issue occuring. (Tested on the S5, G3, Z2, Z3)
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If you talk about over-heating issues, you must also consider the fact that 4k recording is not as easy like how 1080p recording works. It requires a lot of processing power. So no matter what phone you are on, and you want to record 4k, there would definitely be this overheating issue occuring. (Tested on the S5, G3, Z2, Z3)
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so you´re saying that all of those phones you mention, automatically shut down the camera app after a couple of minutes of recording 4k?
the only difference being that no warnings of overheating keep popping up on the other phones?
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so you´re saying that all of those phones you mention, automatically shut down the camera app after a couple of minutes of recording 4k?
the only difference being that no warnings of overheating keep popping up on the other phones?
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yes, Every phone will shutdown soon or later if you record 4K video for long.
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yes, Every phone will shutdown soon or later if you record 4K video for long.
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yeah ok, but "sooner or later" compared to the z3 (or z2, considering the z3 isn´t even out yet) is the real q here?
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yeah ok, but "sooner or later" compared to the z3 (or z2, considering the z3 isn´t even out yet) is the real q here?
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I believe all Samsung phones (Note 3, S5) have a 5 minute limit on 4k recording.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXsyK5YCid8
4K heat test: LG G3, Samsung Galaxy Note 3, S5, Sony Xperia Z2 i know its a little older phones, but it summerized some of your question.
Just take a look at it.
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Its says that G3, Note 3 and S5 have a cap limit at 5minutes of 4K video reccording, while z2 records till it get too hot (that means it can record longer then other phones in good conditions.

2 Days of Battery Life, That's what they promised

As you all know The Sony Xperia Z5 series is said to be able to last for 2 days. As long as the device is not released yet, we just have to wait to prove it.
So, as I searching around in Youtube, I've found this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxYhhkWgQx0
I was stunned. What !? 2 Days on Z3+ ? It's ridiculously impossible !
in my normal use my Z3+ only last for 3-3.5 hours of screen time, 4 if lucky.
and the goddamn heat issue is still there, even worst you can notice performance dropped dramatically when CPU gets hot.
To be clear I never use Stamina mode, as it decrease frame rate (Which on my old Z1, it is never happened. Back then I always enabled Stamina mode)
therefore, The fact that Z5 series still use SD810 (even they have dual heat pipe) , I don't think 2 days of battery life is going to be possible.
Or they might be a chance that they would successfully fix both the battery and heat issue on upcoming 5.1.1 (maybe that's why they delayed it)
So, Let's hope
Let's hope for that but still waiting for 5.1.1 for z3+
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When have manufacturers not exaggerated their devices' battery life? I didn't think anybody took those claims at face value.
Two days is possible with light use.
I usually have like 1,5h of screen on time and 15% battery after ~20 hours. Stamina mode does literally nothing for my battery life, if something it gets worse.
I don't know how Sony usually rolls but if I were them I'd go directly for 6.0 and skip 5.1.1.
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Since last charge i've got 2h15mins of SOT, And 19hours total Idletime - Battery is at 58% now. For me it's okay. Depends on your usage profile and if you are on Wifi or on mobile data (once again, look up the "mobile radio active bug". Maybe a Mod should make a Sticky with this and the PC Companion Repair to fix Overheating...).
As @[NUMINIT] said all the manufacturers lie about the battery life but they lie too much about this particular phone. It doesn't even last 1 day. My Z1 was a really great phone, this one is like something to half way.
With light use, I can easily get 1 1/2 days out of this phone. Your experience may differ based on different usage preferences and patterns.
Can I ask what you're hoping to get out of this thread?
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The crucial thing is they say "up to " meaning it not definenent but it can last up to 2 days ,I use mine for work and does good job in this role ,I get 2 days and about 2 hours screen time but every device and user experience is different,still doesn't beat my old z3c at battery life
Another thing : if battery life seems so bad far you, why not posting a Screenshot of the battery stats and usage in the battery life thread? This whole "this device sucks" - things is getting on My nerves.
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Another thing : if battery life seems so bad far you, why not posting a Screenshot of the battery stats and usage in the battery life thread? This whole "this device sucks" - things is getting on My nerves.
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Mine too, but hey, it's easier to ***** than actually look for a solution.
If you don't use Stamina, chances are good you have the mobile radio active bug. I use it and get around 4-5 days. Last Firmware were only two days. I don't have lag or unusual heat as well.
Done a factory reset?
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It says = 1 day 19 hours 4 minutes
Only 5 hours to go
One more proof. It exceeds 2 days. BURN!
All I want is to share my experience and yeah, I kinda *****y about it
But hey, I didn't get the phone for free. I do think I have right to complain about the issue.
I'm glad for those who are not facing this problem. you are lucky bastard.
I will wait for new FW to see if it solve the problem. If not, maybe it's time to say goodbye with Sony
Guys, check out the battery life thread for nasty lollipop bug called 'mobile radio active'. My Xperia Z2's battery life was legendary on Kitkat & then it hit the rock bottom when lollipop came out. Same issue with my Z3+, S6 & unfortunately I don't have the option to downgrade these two to kitkat. Lollipop is the only reason why all 2015 phones' battery life sucks big time. Z3+ battery life is still a lot better than S6's if you're into heavy browsing. You'd be lucky to get anything better than this until Google fixes this bug.
It's been told here multiple times - few things you could do to improve battery life
1. Always close all apps (from the MT window) before locking screen while you're on mobile data
2. If you're on wifi 24/7, turn off mobile data permanently
3. Use 2.5GHz Wifi instead of 5Gz if possible
4. Make sure 'Screen' is on top of the battery usage list. Otherwise, you got radio active bug or something else that's draining battery. That said, 'cell standby' tops my list occasionally if I don't use it for a long time. It doesn't affect heavy users but Sony needs to work on that.
5. For past Xperia owners, Z3+ screen is much brighter than Z2, Z1. In order to get Z2 like battery performance, you have to lower the brightness. If you leave the brightness slider at 'zero' with adaptive brightness on, it's still much brighter than Z2 & drains a lot of battery. Stick to lower manual brightness if possible.
6. Root
Sony said up to 2 days. So it is not 2 days. It depends on your usage. My sometimes gets 2 days but if I use it more I can get 1 to 1.5 days..
1.5 days is a lot (for me 1/3 of a day is so much), I am working in a very hot place (Mérida México) and I can take one or two pictures then it get's almost on fire and the app closes, video is a shame pain lag, I can not record 5 seconds... if the app didn't close the video looks like a sequence of photo shots... my first nokia 3250 with symbian makes me happier in that era.
Sony:
Like @ing005 say it's time to say goodbye to you and your new "super" spec's devices, you are using us and we have to pay for tasting.

Heat

Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Moto G5S Plus stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
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It heats too much while charging. Playing any games doesn't seem to affect it much but while charging, the battery temperature soars as high as 42-43.
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Only when using it while charging.
Edit* reaches 41C while charging that's not good.
tarun0 said:
It heats too much while charging. Playing any games doesn't seem to affect it much but while charging, the battery temperature soars as high as 42-43.
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This is issue with all fast charging phones. As there is more power being used while charging these, so they will heat up more.
Here are some tips to prevent overheating on fast charging.
http://www.pcnexus.net/2016/08/how-...to-fast-quick-turbo-charging-android.html?m=1
Just curious, why would you be worried about how hot the phone gets when charging?
Webern said:
Just curious, why would you be worried about how hot the phone gets when charging?
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Why would one not be?! Overheating can reduce battery life. In the worst case, the battery can even explode.
tarun0 said:
Why would one not be?! Overheating can reduce battery life. In the worst case, the battery can even explode.
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If the phone or the battery is faulty, maybe. Do you think your phone/battery are faulty? Or do you think that you're more familiar with how to build a phone/battery and charge it properly than the engineers at Motorola? Otherwise you're just saying "I think my phone gets hot when it charges" which isn't very useful information.
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If the phone or the battery is faulty, maybe. Do you think your phone/battery are faulty?
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That's what I wanted to know myself. I had created a separate thread to ask whether other people's phones are also getting this much hot.
Or do you think that you're more familiar with how to build a phone/battery and charge it properly than the engineers at Motorola?
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True, I'm nowhere near the experts at Motorola. However, your logic is flawed. If we go by it, there would not have been 'any' need of bug-fixes or updates. Bugs are inevitable and that's the reason developers ask for feedback and bug-reports!
Otherwise you're just saying "I think my phone gets hot when it charges" which isn't very useful information.
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Isn't it exactly what the thread is for? I provided my opnions with a screenshot. How it's being perceived is up to the reader.
tarun0 said:
That's what I wanted to know myself. I had created a separate thread to ask whether other people's phones are also getting this much hot.
True, I'm nowhere near the experts at Motorola. However, your logic is flawed. If we go by it, there would not have been 'any' need of bug-fixes or updates. Bugs are inevitable and that's the reason developers ask for feedback and bug-reports!
Isn't it exactly what the thread is for? I provided my opnions with a screenshot. How it's being perceived is up to the reader.
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To be fair, you started with "it's too hot". Anyway, I'm not here to argue! My phone has now turned up and doesn't get all that hot when charging. I'll run it down to 0% and then give it a charge and see if I can get the temperature from the phone. I just took a bunch of test photos, got back from lunch and I now seem to have at least 3 camera-related updates to install so I'll have to shoot a bunch more tomorrow. The camera is by far the worst aspect of this phone which is otherwise very nice indeed!
Webern said:
To be fair, you started with "it's too hot". Anyway, I'm not here to argue! My phone has now turned up and doesn't get all that hot when charging. I'll run it down to 0% and then give it a charge and see if I can get the temperature from the phone. I just took a bunch of test photos, got back from lunch and I now seem to have at least 3 camera-related updates to install so I'll have to shoot a bunch more tomorrow. The camera is by far the worst aspect of this phone which is otherwise very nice indeed!
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Yeah. Actually, I was more concerned about that 75 degree celsius because that indeed is hot. However, a friend having the same phone said that his phone never crosses 38-39 degree!
Anyway, give it a try yourself too. And yes, it's because of turbo charging only, as several people mentioned. So, you'll observe the temperature rising up after about 20-30 minutes of putting it on charging.
I also observed that the phone gets appreciably warm if the 'torch' is used while recording video. Tried it on front cam.
I'll appreciate if you too could share the screenshot of the temperature screen on CPUZ app.
Regarding camera updates, I'm not into photography. But I couldn't find any significant change after the updates.
tarun0 said:
Yeah. Actually, I was more concerned about that 75 degree celsius because that indeed is hot. However, a friend having the same phone said that his phone never crosses 38-39 degree!
Anyway, give it a try yourself too. And yes, it's because of turbo charging only, as several people mentioned. So, you'll observe the temperature rising up after about 20-30 minutes of putting it on charging.
I also observed that the phone gets appreciably warm if the 'torch' is used while recording video. Tried it on front cam.
I'll appreciate if you too could share the screenshot of the temperature screen on CPUZ app.
Regarding camera updates, I'm not into photography. But I couldn't find any significant change after the updates.
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38.5 degrees c (and the phone is in a wallet style case). I'm using the phone at the same time, surfing, listening to music and checking out a bug about audio equalisation I just posted about elsewhere on this site. voltage 4200 mv, ac charger charging (but says turbopower connected on the lock screen). It's been charging for about 20 minutes, from about 35 or 40% charge (despite using it quite a bit today the battery is taking it in its stride. this is only the second time i've charged it).
I'll post back here if it rises to a silly level today or on subsequent charges.

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