I found a hidden chip inside the battery of my note 4 just underneath the samsung sticker of the battery. My friend told me that this chip is used to track and hack our personal data and things. Is that correct? Does anyone know anything about this?
It's most likely the NFC chip. The battery clearly labels it below Samsung logo as "near field communication". As for stealing data they don't need hidden chip for that. Your phone has all the data and an Internet connection. Don't worry too much abt it
If you are worried about being hack then just disable the NFC function on your Note 4, it's a very simple process.
But the same chip is no samsung galaxy s2 and s4 but these devices are not having any NFC SO why there is the chip in the battery
ngupta93 said:
But the same chip is no samsung galaxy s2 and s4 but these devices are not having any NFC SO why there is the chip in the battery
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That's NFC chip. Other manufacturers/model usually put it inside the back cover.
Don't worry with it
snugroho3 said:
That's NFC chip. Other manufacturers/model usually put it inside the back cover.
Don't worry with it
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but sir on Samsung s2 there is no NFC
ngupta93 said:
but sir on Samsung s2 there is no NFC
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Yeah, that is true. I had a SGSII and I can honestly confirm that it didn't have NFC capabilities. However some of the later LTE models did have NFC capabilities with the antenna built into the battery like the Note 4.
GT-I9100p is Galaxy S2 NFC
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Don't have a data connection. Coz they don't need a chip to steal your data. They can hack it anytime. Moreover these are patented & US Govt approved, so I believe they should be safe to use
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GT-I9100p is Galaxy S2 NFC
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That version was released much later in the European markets. But the original GT-I9100 didn't have NFC capabilities.
i9100 was original version with same board like i9100p, but without NFC chip on it. You can even flash i9100p with i9100 FW, but without NFC options in settings menu
So if you change the battery
So that means if you change your battery (which was the centre of Samsung advertisement for long time) you'll lose NFC function! WTF!
arunkrishnanr said:
I found a hidden chip inside the battery of my note 4 just underneath the samsung sticker of the battery. My friend told me that this chip is used to track and hack our personal data and things. Is that correct? Does anyone know anything about this?
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What I m not understanding is if Samsung want to track us & wants to fix chip, they can put chip in mother board & may we will never come to know, why in easily replaceable battery.
jdomadia said:
What I m not understanding is if Samsung want to track us & wants to fix chip, they can put chip in mother board & may we will never come to know, why in easily replaceable battery.
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what samsung wants is for you to purchase an original battery, if they put the NFC chip inside the motherboard, you could purchase any cheap battery and would still have the NFC chip, but if they put it in the battery, you would need to purchase an original battery to keep that NFC function at US$30 instead of US$5, i use NFC so i would prefer it inside the phone and not battery tho.
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Just got my hand on a Korean Samsung Galaxy S II. Found a NFC option under Setting menu. Then i removed the back cover, and found the NFC logo on the battery??!!? Could it be the battery is where the NFC tag is at?
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Phone manufactured date: 2011-04-26
Image took with my old Nexus One.
What do you guys think?
Interesting
This is super interesting! From your pics I see that the phone has 4 connector pins, how many does the battery have? How many does the Indian battery have? I am inclined to believe this is the mystery behind "Optional NFC".
It would be interesting to see some side on shots compared to a standard SGS II - I hear the NFC version is somewhat thicker?
AFAIK, the KOREAN SGS2 had NFC since launch. lol
sd card slots not in the same place either
An NFC-chip inside the battery would actually make sense. It has a large surface area inside the phone, which would make the NFC handling easier.
However, the design is completly different. On the non-NFC GS2, the microSD cardslot is on the left side and the battery connectors are on the right side. Some small differences with the SIMcardslot and the external antenna connector too. So it seems its more than just the battery.
What are the specs on this version? Do they use the AT&T US frequencies?
Just a quick question: Have you checked 3G bands on the phone?
I heard that the Korean version is NOT quad-band, and am just wondering if you could check that.
Thanks.
I mentioned this a while ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13760704#post13760704
It's my understanding that the phone extends the NFC antenna onto the battery so signals don't get blocked by the battery.
It's tri-band only. Don't know why they'd do that though.
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What are the specs on this version? Do they use the AT&T US frequencies?
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I think this version is quad-band GSM and quad-band UMTS. Not sure, I dont have the box with me. Will test this with AT&T in the states when i get back there next month.
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Just a quick question: Have you checked 3G bands on the phone?
I heard that the Korean version is NOT quad-band, and am just wondering if you could check that.
Thanks.
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I'm unable to use the 3G since i dont have phone service on this SGS2, im just using it on wifi at the moment.
Sticks02 said:
I mentioned this a while ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13760704#post13760704
It's my understanding that the phone extends the NFC antenna onto the battery so signals don't get blocked by the battery.
It's tri-band only. Don't know why they'd do that though.
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How do you check to see if it's tri-band or quad-band GSM/UMTS?
can you pls dump the stock ROM u have in that SGS2 ? it might be useful... i dont know in what way, but may be yes or may be no...
just curious.... from that pic its quite clear that the battery has the NFC chip built in to the SGS2..... thats amazing...
thats why samsung has maded such a thin plastic backcover... i guess so.... nice thinking & it is an indirect clue i am almost sure....
what do u guys think ???
Was on one of the Korean Samsung Spec pages. Lost the link. Although I don't see why they'd make the international version quad band and the domestic version tri band, makes no sense. There's a number code you can enter to check the phone's settings/hardware. It didn't seem to work for me though.
BTW how did you manage to get the phone? It's my understanding you can't buy it outright here unless you're on a visa. Unless you're on a visa...
@manuvaidya:
They've been dumped already. They were dumped a few days after the phone was released. Seems like it's just not that interesting to devs here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068307
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can you pls dump the stock ROM u have in that SGS2 ? it might be useful... i dont know in what way, but may be yes or may be no...
just curious.... from that pic its quite clear that the battery has the NFC chip built in to the SGS2..... thats amazing...
thats why samsung has maded such a thin plastic backcover... i guess so.... nice thinking & it is an indirect clue i am almost sure....
what do u guys think ???
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I hope so, we can just purchase the battery and/or sim if both are needed and we get NFC.
I guess NFC in the future release might mean it comes with a NFC enabled battery.
I found a basic side-by-side comparison of the Korean and Internation models:
hxxp://u23dom.blogspot.com/2011/04/galaxy-s2_29.html
Hit up Google Translate for a .. er .. translation.
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This is super interesting! From your pics I see that the phone has 4 connector pins, how many does the battery have? How many does the Indian battery have? I am inclined to believe this is the mystery behind "Optional NFC".
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The UK release phone also has 4 connectors pins and the UK battery also has 4 connectors.
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An NFC-chip inside the battery would actually make sense. It has a large surface area inside the phone, which would make the NFC handling easier.
However, the design is completly different. On the non-NFC GS2, the microSD cardslot is on the left side and the battery connectors are on the right side. Some small differences with the SIMcardslot and the external antenna connector too. So it seems its more than just the battery.
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I have the same battery that is labeled "Near Field Communication" and no, unfortunately it does not enable NFC on a stock UK phone running KE7.
Also, did anyone notice that the connector pins on the Korean SGSII are on the left side vs ours which is on the right?
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The UK release phone also has 4 connectors pins and the UK battery also has 4 connectors.
I have the same battery that is labeled "Near Field Communication" and no, unfortunately it does not enable NFC on a stock UK phone running KE7.
Also, did anyone notice that the connector pins on the Korean SGSII are on the left side vs ours which is on the right?
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I think it's like that because the Korean SGS2 has an antenna on the right side to watch TV-over-the-air.
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It would be interesting to see some side on shots compared to a standard SGS II - I hear the NFC version is somewhat thicker?
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Extra thickness is probably from the DMB tuner
All korean phones come with DMB tuners.
jealous+++++++++
what is the software version of this device?
Dang, I was thinking of getting a spare battery from Korea.
Do both batteries work with uk version of the phone?
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Today I met samsung representative in CPW, who told me that there's no NFC option for galaxy note but it may differ in other countries.
That would alright if it wasn't for engadget article, which clearly states that there's NFC controller inside (NFC controller: NXP PN544).
Does anyone have an idea if it would be possible to use NFC technology if the controller is already inside the device(assuming we'll get ICS)?
I have seen on engadget too.. I think gnote has nfc support maybe with updating ics
That engadget found nfc informations in the firmware does not mean the chip actually is inside the device. Could be available just in another regio...
Engadget just reported what Supercurio mentioned. May be the phone Supercurio got is not UK version. (donno which country he is from)
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Engadget just reported what Supercurio mentioned. May be the phone Supercurio got is not UK version. (donno which country he is from)
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Supercurio does not have the phone.
Currently there is only one version of phone in the market. European version
If the Note does have an NFC chip, wouldn't it be listed in the spec sheet of the user manual? Can someone verify this?
Forget it guys, the EU note don't have nfc, its is only for the korean market, same as LTE
Yep, samsung stripping nfc from another device because " the market in europe isn't ready for nfc". I'm pretty sure the market would grow considerably if you started putting NFC on your devices since most people will go for a 20 month + contract...
No NFC here either even for the prototypes on display (which didn't have the S-Pen even though its listed on the spec sheet.
Pict: http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/4489/samsunggalaxynote.jpg
I have NFC what use that technology will be until there are a lot more devices out there that support it.
NFC Is probably in the battery, if you check the t-mobile sgs2 t989 you can see what i mean! So its just a battery change, and you'll probably have nfc!
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"There’s also NFC support too. We have the strange suspicion that the NFC chip might be integrated into the battery as it carries the NFC sign.
Samsung Galaxy S II T-Mobile
The NFC chip might be hiding inside the battery
Unlike the rest of the Galaxy S II lineup, the NFC on the T-Mobile version is fully functional right out of the box. There is a pre-installed app, called Tags, which utilizes it."
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Yep, samsung stripping nfc from another device because " the market in europe isn't ready for nfc". I'm pretty sure the market would grow considerably if you started putting NFC on your devices since most people will go for a 20 month + contract...
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That's a silly argument that they didn't use for the Galaxy Nexus!
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NFC is greatly catching up in India. There are article coming in newspapers here where various uses of nfc tech are being discussed plus there are various TV ads coming on tv about nokia phones where they show content sharing via nfc. tag line is tap and share. I just dont know what is wrong with samsung they are not able to add a simple piece of tech in their devices not even as large as gnote.
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Looks like we will need to see if there are 4 battery pins on the device. It *could* be for something else, but I doubt it.
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Looks like we will need to see if there are 4 battery pins on the device. It *could* be for something else, but I doubt it.
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There are only three pins on my Euro battery and only three pins on the Note that match up with it.
I think it short sighted of Samsung if customers in Europe cannot upgrade the Note to enable NFC if they want to.
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There are only three pins on my Euro battery and only three pins on the Note that match up with it.
I think it short sighted of Samsung if customers in Europe cannot upgrade the Note to enable NFC if they want to.
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I wouldn't be really bothered about NFC if it wasn't for these official specs.
http://www.samsungmobilepress.com/2011/09/01/GALAXY-Note
It's slightly painful to think that this tech might come handy next year and we won't be able to use it with £600 price tag phone.
Android Beam
With Galaxy Nexus you can now easily share contacts, websites, apps, maps, directions and YouTube videos to other people close by. Simply hold two NFC enabled Android phones close to each other and touch to beam and share.
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Just an example of NFC usage introduced with ICS. It will be the trend set by Google. I wish such an expensive Note will include all the features.
lokto7 said:
Just an example of NFC usage introduced with ICS. It will be the trend set by Google. I wish such an expensive Note will include all the features.
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lol, you were wanting to pay even MORE??
damn
I was looking foward to using google wallet all over
" Does anyone have an idea if it would be possible to use NFC technology if the controller is already inside the device(assuming we'll get ICS)? "
We need 3 things; 1e hardware, this controller and an antena, (secure element not embedded in this controller but only important for payments, and can be added with SIM- or microSD- card.
2e software, ICS not essential, Android 2.3.? supports NFC, just not with Beam app out of the box.
3e business decisions, especially the carrier!
nfc-phones.org ,Joao
Does somebody knows what the difference between P7501 and P7500 are? As I understand both have UMTS and WIFI? Also rest of spec seems to be the same.
(It is not a mistake P7501! Not P7510)
P7501 is a new model (Name is Galaxy Tab 10.1N)
It was created by Samsung in order to address the issue that previous models could not be sold in certain markets due to lawsuits triggered by Apple.
So far I'm not aware what has changed in detail but I assume the technical specs remain the same. Most likely they only adapted the exterior design.
It has a slightly changed design. The software and the basic hardware are the same.
The speakers a repositioned and the silver-border is also changed (dunno in which way)
It got Android 3.2
Here's a link to it on a German site. It doesn't look that different. I wonder if it's different enough for Apple? Interesting.
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http://www.cyberport.de/notebook-un...laxy-tab-10-1n-3g-16gb-pure-white-p7501-.html
From the pic it looks like the speakers are front facing.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...ingement-of-apples-design-sure-looks-like-it/
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looks stupid
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I wonder if the dimensions are the same. If not, none of the existing docks and accessories will work.
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I wonder if the dimensions are the same. If not, none of the existing docks and accessories will work.
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should be the same, trying to get my hands on one :/
If anyone gets their hands on one of these - please get in contact with the devs so we finally have some European 3.2 stock rom
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If anyone gets their hands on one of these - please get in contact with the devs so we finally have some European 3.2 stock rom
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May not work on other models out of the box. But with the right kernel, perhaps. In any case, we will probably start seeing more 3.2 ROMs very soon -- even official ones.
If they've done it right, this is exactly the same device as the P7500/P7510 with a slightly different frame and a little glas cut of each side.
it looks the same like this htc device http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/11/...s-image-and-specs-leaked-comes-in-early-2012/
It's up on the Samsung Germany site. 649 Euro for the 32GB 3G. Yikes.
http://samsung.de/de/Privatkunden/Mobil/Tablets/samsunggalaxytab101n/GT-P7501UWDDBT/detail.aspx
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I have one.
I've got one.
It has a slightly different design. But from my experience rooting and flashing works the same. So I don't think there are a lot of differences of the hardware.
See also my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19878585#post19878585
I've got one too.
I recently bought the 10.1N WiFi, the GT7511. It features the same hardware specs as the GT7510 except the design of the frame. The speakers are on the front, the silver frame is much larger than the one of the GT7510. The physical size of the tablet is exactly the same and all accessories released by Samsung until now are compatible with it. I own the keyboard dock and it works like a charm. The tablet fits into a 10.1 leather case without problems.
The software is Android 3.2 with Touchwiz. It features several Samsung Hub Apps (Readers Hub, Social Hub, Music Hub), Pulse News, Samsung Apps Market and Polaris Office.
I hope Samsung will release ICS for this modell, too.
Cant seem to find an answer to this anywhere, here in aus we don't have unlimited data so streaming apps are out of the question has samsung finally woken up to itself and put in an fm radio? Or at least the hardware inside the phone to use an after market app like spirit FM?
Although the note 4 is full of awesomeness, If not i think its time for me to look else where for a phone maybe the next HTC will be up to par?
thanks for any help.
wow so even people that own the phone dont know if it has an fm radio, this is crazy i cant find the answer to this anywhere....
I don't think many people here have Note 4 yet, but judging from the past I don't think it will have one. Now funny part is, almost all Samsung phones in the past had radio hardware but it was disabled. There was a developer who wrote a program to enable it in some phones, but he speculated that for example Note 3 had antenna shorted to the ground, so even with his program it wouldn't work, unless you were brave enough to actually do some soldering. If I had to speculate, I would lean towards carriers requesting radio to be eliminated, they don't make money if you use free fm radio, instead of streaming, but that could mean some versions could have it. In many places Note 4 should be available any day now, so we should know more then.
it does have fm chip
Only sprint allows you to use it. The rest of the carriers have not activated it yet. Read the next radio website for more information
I believe Sprint Note 4 uses specific modem (radio) which includes fm radio tuner too. It is not about carriers not activating that feature, it is not included in hardware in other models of Note 4.
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Any update on this? I own SM-910F, Orange carrier here in Romania.
I also don't seem to find the info about built-in FM chip into this specific Note 4 model.
For all it matters, I do know it's Snapdragon CPU powered.
If I rooted the phone, would I be able to use the FM chip inside?
@ OP: have you been able to dig up more on this? Thanks!
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Any update on this? I own SM-910F, Orange carrier here in Romania.
I also don't seem to find the info about built-in FM chip into this specific Note 4 model.
For all it matters, I do know it's Snapdragon CPU powered.
If I rooted the phone, would I be able to use the FM chip inside?
@ OP: have you been able to dig up more on this? Thanks!
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Root is required, You could try borrowing the apk for FM radio and the lib files from a "sprinter" and placing in your system. Thats the place to start.
Look at Nextradio apps supported devices page, find your device in my case Note 4.
Unless a Boost Mobile, Sprint, or Virgin Mobile version of a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 differs from a AT&T or Verizon version then I highly doubt any version of the Note 4 is lacking an FM radio chip. I recall AT&T unlocking the feature in the near future for the Note 4 *hint*. Not to mention Samsung purposely didn't advertise the fact *hint*. So logic says yes it's there and for some reason carriers are playing the "we didn't know" game and prefer to force you to use your data so it would seem. Since voice, and text is unlimited nowadays. I've called Verizon and even their reps are advertising it doesn't exist for the Note 4. But I know better! xD
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I recall AT&T unlocking the feature in the near future for the Note 4 *hint*. Not to mention Samsung purposely didn't advertise the fact *hint*.
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Wow, that's great news. (And I even thought this ropic was dead, even more so with recent note 5 hipe and all).
Really appreciate your contribution to this and since I'm in Europe and not following US mobile tech events, if you could just let us know whether or not AT&T unlocking FM ever happens, would mean a great deal.
Still havent rooted my note 4 and moreover I'm in greater doubt than ever before, if it's worth doing it - perhaps time to sell it is near and it unrooted means better resell value.
If I would just know for sure if my specific SM 910F model has real physical inbuilt FM hardware chip, I'd definitely go for it.
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Look at Nextradio apps supported devices page, find your device in my case Note 4.
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As you said, it is there but only for aprint , boost and vergin. I'm Orange.
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As you said, it is there but only for aprint , boost and vergin. I'm Orange.
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This only means those carriers are enabling the FM chip. Boost and Virgin both use Sprint towers I believe so they all have Sprint hardware with their own front end.
*You all should take into account that I'm merely researching and interpreting it all to my logic. It may differ from yours.
Any updates on Radio tuner enabled? I'm just curious if you got it to work.
What would be the case if I bought my Note 4 phone unlocked, from an electronics sales Samsung representative (not from a carrier)? is there a way to find out if the hardware is installed?
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 SM_N910G with Resurrection Remix 5.8.3 on it. How do I activate it if i do not have any carrier to go too because I live in australia.
Seems the SGS6 has unfixable hardware problems: http://www.androidguys.com/2015/03/06/samsung-galaxy-s6-major-hardware-fault-even-launched/
Here's the same test done with my SGS3:
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I've had this same problem for 2 1/2 years and never even knew it. And now I'm out of warranty! This must be an apple conspiracy!
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Seems the SGS6 has unfixable hardware problems: http://www.androidguys.com/2015/03/06/samsung-galaxy-s6-major-hardware-fault-even-launched/
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I've had this same problem for 2 1/2 years and never even knew it. And now I'm out of warranty! This must be an apple conspiracy!
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Serious question: Why do you need to touch the 1mm sliver of the screen near the bezel? This isn't the middle of the screen we're talking about. This is on the very edge where there is no interactive media. Even if there was, your finger would still activate it unless you are suggesting that the interactive area is literally the size of the "dead" area, which is implausible. And, as a practical matter, in what circumstances do you find that the non-responsive gap has affected your usage of the phone? Clearly your thumb isn't the size of a pin-point, or maybe it is?
Not to mention, ever galaxy phone has had this since the SGS3.
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Not to mention, ever galaxy phone has had this since the SGS3.
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What app did you use to test it?
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Not to mention, ever galaxy phone has had this since the SGS3.
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I believe a lot of phones have this problem, its not just a Galaxy thing.
To test dial: *#7353# Choose tsp grid mode.
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I'm sure the Engineers will get a kick out of this. It's actually done on purpose.
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This seems like a logical design decision to make for the Edge version, even if it weren't there in the past. It seems to me this is not a defect or bug, but an intended feature.
This is the biggest non-issue I have seen posted thus far. It's as if people are blindly overlooking the practical usage of such a thing in order to try to downsize the potential success of the S6. Up until this point, all the news regarding the S6 has been overwhelmingly positive minus a couple people moaning about the removal of expandable storage/removable battery. I guess someone had to try to break the positivity.
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If that's the only "technical fault" they can find on the S6, I'll be alright with that
2 main issues for me for me are the same as everyone: lack of SD slot and removable battery. They are apparently both solved by the fact that:
- there is a 128gb version (will only take a lot of time to copy all my stuff into the internal storage at first, can live with that)
- fast charging (not as easy as replace the battery, but once again, can live with it)
Protagoras said:
If that's the only "technical fault" they can find on the S6, I'll be alright with that
2 main issues for me for me are the same as everyone: lack of SD slot and removable battery. They are apparently both solved by the fact that:
- there is a 128gb version (will only take a lot of time to copy all my stuff into the internal storage at first, can live with that)
- fast charging (not as easy as replace the battery, but once again, can live with it)
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Obviously (as you said), they're not big problems
Protagoras said:
If that's the only "technical fault" they can find on the S6, I'll be alright with that
2 main issues for me for me are the same as everyone: lack of SD slot and removable battery. They are apparently both solved by the fact that:
- there is a 128gb version (will only take a lot of time to copy all my stuff into the internal storage at first, can live with that)
- fast charging (not as easy as replace the battery, but once again, can live with it)
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The back is removeable... just not like you would normally think by past Sammy devices. See here.
The edge gap for touch input has been present on phones from at least 2010 and also happens on my HTC so they're making a mountain out of a non-issue and probable design decision to prevent accidental touch input when cupping the phone.
Digitizer testing is incomplete at best in the said story. Thread closed to avoid future OT Discussions.