Happy but Disappointed :( - ZenFone 2 General

I ordered the ZF2 from NewEgg when it released in the US.
I now had it for 4 days and generally feel good about the upgrade from a Nexus 5, but there are some things that really bother me with this phone:
1. Heat. This phone seems to heat up pretty bad when charging and doing something on the phone. When I just got it and was doing updates connected to power it actually gave out an error saying it overheated and needs to shut down.
2. Capacitive buttons are laggy. It takes about a second to register the press of the home button along with back and recent buttons. The Nexus 5 onscreen buttons so much faster.
3. The Zen Keyboard is laggy. Had to download and install the stock google keyboard.
4. Benchmarks are weak. Highest I got was 45k on Antutu. I have seen others getting over 48k. Its a minor gripe as the general performance is really good.
5. The plastic ridge that surrounds the screen seems to be very weak. It already has dings in it. Very sad about this.
6. Camera is not compatible with Hypwrlapse or ManualCamera app. I hope that those apps get updated and start supporting ZF2.
7. I don't know what's going on with this battery. Maybe its the apps that I have. But it feels weak. Woke up today at 8am. Its 5:30 now. I'm at 38% with 2 hours and 30 minutes screen on time.
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coolmaster121 said:
I ordered the ZF2 from NewEgg when it released in the US.
I now had it for 4 days and generally feel good about the upgrade from a Nexus 5, but there are some things that really bother me with this phone:
1. Heat. This phone seems to heat up pretty bad when charging and doing something on the phone. When I just got it and was doing updates connected to power it actually gave out an error saying it overheated and needs to shut down.
2. Capacitive buttons are laggy. It takes about a second to register the press of the home button along with back and recent buttons. The Nexus 5 onscreen buttons so much faster.
3. The Zen Keyboard is laggy. Had to download and install the stock google keyboard.
4. Benchmarks are weak. Highest I got was 45k on Antutu. I have seen others getting over 48k. Its a minor gripe as the general performance is really good.
5. The plastic ridge that surrounds the screen seems to be very weak. It already has dings in it. Very sad about this.
6. Camera is not compatible with Hypwrlapse or ManualCamera app. I hope that those apps get updated and start supporting ZF2.
7. I don't know what's going on with this battery. Maybe its the apps that I have. But it feels weak. Woke up today at 8am. Its 5:30 now. I'm at 38% with 2 hours and 30 minutes screen on time.
If anyone else has any thoughts about the phone, please chime in.
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1. Mine barely gets warm, and I have yet to see it get as warm as my G2 yet. It gets warm during charge but every device heats up during that process. Temps jump between 3x-4x℃.
2. I'm not having this issue, so not sure what the cause is.
3. The keyboard is smooth like the LG keyboard, and seems just as responsive as my N9 was.
4. I have the 2GB, so 42K seems to be the ceiling in antutu.
5. I've had mine for roughly a week and there aren't any signs of use on it, such as dings.
7. With my 2GB variant I reach ~2.5-3hrs for SOT at roughly 65-50%. I charge the battery to 85/80% and end up with 4-5hrs for SOT consistently. For me Android OS is really hurting battery performance.
"I'd Totally Hug You, If That Was Something I Did"

Something is seriously wrong with the battery of Zenfone 2, 550 ml. It automatically comes down to around 30% in 8-10 hours, even without any active use at all!

i was one who got early units of 550 ml...mines is performing very well......i dont have any issues too what so ever based on your reports above...standby time for 7 hours only reduce to 4 % batterry consumption for me....return your unit if its got warranty so you can sleep better

The battery and 5.0 are a problem. I've had wifi turned off for the past 3 days and the battery app is still reporting that wif is using 20-25% of the battery. The saving grace is standby which is outstanding. Left it off charge all night and it lost 8% in 11 hours. Once I start to use the phone the battery dies very quickly.

Do the rom upgrade

coolmaster121 said:
I ordered the ZF2 from NewEgg when it released in the US.
I now had it for 4 days and generally feel good about the upgrade from a Nexus 5, but there are some things that really bother me with this phone:
1. Heat. This phone seems to heat up pretty bad when charging and doing something on the phone. When I just got it and was doing updates connected to power it actually gave out an error saying it overheated and needs to shut down.
2. Capacitive buttons are laggy. It takes about a second to register the press of the home button along with back and recent buttons. The Nexus 5 onscreen buttons so much faster.
3. The Zen Keyboard is laggy. Had to download and install the stock google keyboard.
4. Benchmarks are weak. Highest I got was 45k on Antutu. I have seen others getting over 48k. Its a minor gripe as the general performance is really good.
5. The plastic ridge that surrounds the screen seems to be very weak. It already has dings in it. Very sad about this.
6. Camera is not compatible with Hypwrlapse or ManualCamera app. I hope that those apps get updated and start supporting ZF2.
7. I don't know what's going on with this battery. Maybe its the apps that I have. But it feels weak. Woke up today at 8am. Its 5:30 now. I'm at 38% with 2 hours and 30 minutes screen on time.
If anyone else has any thoughts about the phone, please chime in.
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I have the ZF2 which I bought at initial launch from ASUS France. I can tell that I don't have all the issues you are reporting.
1. The phone does heat when charging or making lengthy calls but it doesn't bother me since while charging it's normal and I don't make as many long calls but this has not happened since the last FW update.
2. The buttons are working alright. I haven't noticed any lags. If anything they are more sensitive for me. Takes a screenshot every now and then if I hold my recent app key for a fraction of a second.
3. I always used Google KB on all my android devices so again can't tell but initially I was using the ASUS KB and didn't face any major issues.
4. I haven't done any benchmarks so can't report on that yet.
5. No dings whatsoever. I am also using a case so I barely touch the device.
6. The device has to be supported by devs. I know that the beta Microsoft Hyperlapse does not support it right now but it should do once they add support for it.
7. Well battery has been a concern for most on this forum but with the last FW I am getting 5 hours of SOT with 4G enabled all day. That's not bad at all compared to 2.5 or ~3 hours when I first started using the phone so it has been optimized and if ASUS is serious about this device (I hope they are) then it should only get better.

whynottoday said:
Do the rom upgrade
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I'm on the latest firmware.?

iancjc said:
I'm on the latest firmware.?
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i am on last firmware and do not have any issue

coolmaster121 said:
I ordered the ZF2 from NewEgg when it released in the US.
2. Capacitive buttons are laggy. It takes about a second to register the press of the home button along with back and recent buttons. The Nexus 5 onscreen buttons so much faster.
If anyone else has any thoughts about the phone, please chime in.
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Had the same issue with the capacitive buttons, did a factory reset and cleared the cache and they are now pretty much instantaneous when you press them.

iancjc said:
The battery and 5.0 are a problem. I've had wifi turned off for the past 3 days and the battery app is still reporting that wif is using 20-25% of the battery. The saving grace is standby which is outstanding. Left it off charge all night and it lost 8% in 11 hours. Once I start to use the phone the battery dies very quickly.
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turn off the allow wifi scanning when off option .. its probably google play location services killing your battery

Thanks never thought of that. Will let you know how it goes tomorrow.

iancjc said:
The battery and 5.0 are a problem. I've had wifi turned off for the past 3 days and the battery app is still reporting that wif is using 20-25% of the battery. The saving grace is standby which is outstanding. Left it off charge all night and it lost 8% in 11 hours. Once I start to use the phone the battery dies very quickly.
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Go to Wi-Fi Advanced Settings and turn off "scanning always available". That will fix the Wi-Fi consistently on even when turned 'off'.

There's at least a few threads similar to this one already going in this device section. Like this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/zenfone-2-worth-buy-t3113954
Don't need more the same. It just clutters the section and spreads the talk on the subject out between threads. Join the discussion in the one above, or another. :good:
Thanks! Thread closed.
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Is anybody else using the LEAKED GINGERBREAD ROM on their EVO? Thoughts? Opinions???

I've been using it for 2 days and so far I have nothing but good things to say about it. The battery life so far has been top notch. My phone has currently been off the charger for 15 hours and 2 minutes, and I still have 41% battery left. It's very responsive. Everything works on my HW003 Evo. The one problem I have discovered so far is that when I record a video, once I'm done it force closes the video app. But the good thing is that the recorded video is saved intact and I can re-open my camcorder app immediately if I want to record another video. So it's really not a big issue. Other than that everything else sems to be working very smoothly. I have Go Launcher EX running on top of it and everything is super-fast. So far I'm really loving this leaked ROM. What about you guys(and girls)???
kenlperry said:
I've been using it for 2 days and so far I have nothing but good things to say about it. The battery life so far has been top notch. My phone has currently been off the charger for 15 hours and 2 minutes, and I still have 41% battery left. It's very responsive. Everything works on my HW003 Evo. The one problem I have discovered so far is that when I record a video, once I'm done it force closes the video app. But the good thing is that the recorded video is saved intact and I can re-open my camcorder app immediately if I want to record another video. So it's really not a big issue. Other than that everything else sems to be working very smoothly. I have Go Launcher EX running on top of it and everything is super-fast. So far I'm really loving this leaked ROM. What about you guys(and girls)???
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how much of that is ACTUAL use ? and not sitting on a desk ?
CheesyNutz said:
how much of that is ACTUAL use ? and not sitting on a desk ?
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Well, I took it off the charger just after midnight last night, and I woke up at 7am. So 7 of those hours it was resting. But since then I've been to the gym and listened to music the whole time, sent a few texts, received about 30-40 texts from twitter, browsed the web for some of the links, viewed some android central youtube videos, updated some apps in the Market, made 2 phone calls, etc.. The point is with my last ROM and kernel, normally I'd be at about 15% battery by now.. There seems to be a noticeable improvement. But I posted this thread because I'm wondering if it's my imagination or if anyone else is having similar experiences.
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Sure your using gingerbread? That battery icon making me suspicious. 0_o
Asop ROMs do typically use less battery than sense ROMs
LOL! Horrible battery life considering you haven't made one call.
akarol said:
LOL! Horrible battery life considering you haven't made one call.
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He said he made 2....
Pretty decent
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
Where's a link for it? I wanna try this out and put in my .02!
Fyi my g1 only lasted 4-6 hours on a charge using stock battery, I turned off the radio and let it sit in my sock drawer it stayed on in stand by for nearly a week on that same battery.
These threads bragging about battery life are just BS, im sure if I want all day not using my evo I'd also get 16+ hours on a stock. I typically get a good 14-16 hours using my 3000 mAh battery and being constantly on my phone.
I noticed a lump in my battery last night (SBC maybe?) And now im back on the stock battery, this is my 3rd time today its back on the charger, my point? None but these threads don't mean a thing unless there's any really useful information to significantly extend the battery, especially to us users who do use our phones and not just let them sit idol all day.
phatmanxxl said:
Fyi my g1 only lasted 4-6 hours on a charge using stock battery, I turned off the radio and let it sit in my sock drawer it stayed on in stand by for nearly a week on that same battery.
These threads bragging about battery life are just BS, im sure if I want all day not using my evo I'd also get 16+ hours on a stock. I typically get a good 14-16 hours using my 3000 mAh battery and being constantly on my phone.
I noticed a lump in my battery last night (SBC maybe?) And now im back on the stock battery, this is my 3rd time today its back on the charger, my point? None but these threads don't mean a thing unless there's any really useful information to significantly extend the battery, especially to us users who do use our phones and not just let them sit idol all day.
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If anyone says a phone can last more than 4-5 hours, then using a phone to them is turning the screen on to check the time, then quickly turning it off.
Anyways link? I wanna use Sense with Gingerbread.
He is obviously using his phone because 40 percent of it is the display
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knowledge561 said:
If anyone says a phone can last more than 4-5 hours, then using a phone to them is turning the screen on to check the time, then quickly turning it off.
Anyways link? I wanna use Sense with Gingerbread.
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Last I checked there's a few in the development forum, but they are ports and a work in progress and have a lot of things broken. As son as there is a stable gingersense im all over that.
I loaded the leaked 2.3.3/sense 1.0 that tmartin put together. It is 100% functional for me. Some people were having issues with the screen staying at 100% brightness, and the camera acting strange. I think that may have been a variety of factors, wipe quality, hardware number, and screen type.
The rom was flawless for me. I have a 3500 battery and used my phone like a crackhead for 15.5 hours before the battery died. I was web surfing most of the time, and reading the leak thread that hit over a 1000 posts in a day before the op locked it up.
I am now using the misfit gingersense rom, and it is working 100% for me, apart from some very minor black on black text when word suggestions pop up using swype.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036930
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
I flashed the tmartin 2.3.3 sense leak as well. I liked it for the most part...but it wasn't anything really special...some menu changes and it did have the nice fast boot feature. Sense was still a little sluggish when scrolling through home screens. I flashed back to cm7....what I do miss is the stable 4g that I do not get with cm7 final.
knowledge561 said:
If anyone says a phone can last more than 4-5 hours, then using a phone to them is turning the screen on to check the time, then quickly turning it off.
Anyways link? I wanna use Sense with Gingerbread.
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Wtf are you talking about!?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
This post was not just about battery life. That was just one aspect of it. I posted it to get feedback from others who are also running the ROM put together by TMartin from the leak. I still don't get why people get so funny acting when it comes to others talking about how long their battery lasts. If you don't like it or don't care to hear about it then move on, as it may not be for you. But others may be interested to see if it improves their battery life. Remember, every post here isn't catered just for you. The world is bigger than just you. Anyway, I use my phone quite regularly, whether it be browsing the web, viewing video, texting, listening to music, etc.
I also forgot to mention that I'm using the stock battery.
For those who asked where they can find the download, here ya go. It's linked in the first post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
phatmanxxl said:
I noticed a lump in my battery last night (SBC maybe?)
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Dude, your battery might have cancer. You should do a battery self-exam at least once every month. It's best that you do it in the shower so that the battery can hang low. Make sure you roll your battery through your fingers to check for any abnormal growth or lump.
If you feel a lump or that the shape of your battery has changed at all, don't hesitate to see your doctor. Remember, catching battery cancer in the earliest stages gives you a much better chance at survival!
ZachPA said:
Dude, your battery might have cancer. You should do a battery self-exam at least once every month. It's best that you do it in the shower so that the battery can hang low. Make sure you roll your battery through your fingers to check for any abnormal growth or lump.
If you feel a lump or that the shape of your battery has changed at all, don't hesitate to see your doctor. Remember, catching battery cancer in the earliest stages gives you a much better chance at survival!
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I layed on a flat surface and noticed it rocked a little bit, so yea it has a slight deformity. Dr. Abu ghraib can have a look at it tomorrow.
I flashed it and been running it for a few hours now. Its alright, nothing ground breaking or impressive. Im kinda disappointed about no vertical battery or the on/tv off effect like the asop roms have. I thought I was gonna see that in gingersense. No big deal though, its same ol sense on gingerbread. I did notice some improvements in the browser. Fair enough, its cool, but still a little buggy.
Screen dimming works for me BTW, on my 0003.
Tomorrow will be the real test as far as the battery goes.
What bugs have you noticed?

Strange Battery Issue

I've had my phone for about a week now(att unrooted) and experienced something very strange this morning. I fully charged the phone at around 5:30 last night and used he phone very moderately. At around 11:30 pm uploaded 3 photos on my google drive and the battery was 80-90%. Woke up this morning and the battery was dead. This is totally out of the ordinary because I never experienced this before even with my old and buggy captivate. Keep in mind that I was on wifi and the phone is not yet rooted. Has anyone else noticed anything like this?
That is strange. Honestly, I dunno what could cause it besides some random app that you installed.
i say download a battery calibrator and then go from there
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i say download a battery calibrator and then go from there
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Battery Calibrator won't do anything.
Install Better Battery Stats, and when your phone turns on after plugging it in, see what was using the most power. It won't work for the first time but will work in the future.
Even better uninstall ****ty apps and disable notifications on this like word with friends, scramble with friends, etc. Go into app manager and disable everything you don't use. Report back in a week.
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I've had the phone for 5 days and gone through maybe 8 batt cycles. I'm not getting more than 2hrs screen time on any cycle. This is stupidly horrible battery life. There has got to be something severely wrong. I don't do much with the phone. I can't even with less than 2hrs to work with. Overnight batt loss is maybe 8%.
Any help is ENORMOUSLY appreciated.
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I was able to reproduce something similar. I opened up market\play to do a few updates and once the update process started, I put the phone down on my desk. Updates installed and the screen remained turned on. Now, I don't remember the exact steps or what other apps were running in the background. All I know is that the screen remained on for a few minutes until I manually turned it off.
This could very well be a bug in Samsung's face\image recognition software that handles smart stay. It might be a bug in google play, a faulty app or a combination of things... Because the battery on this phone is actually quite amazing. I unplugged my phone this morning, went to work, updated a bunch of apps, saved local maps to google maps, hung out on facebook, surfed the web... and after 10.5 hours, I still have more than 50% battery left.
That's a good indication that what I'm experiencing is a software glitch of some kind that if left un-attended, could completely drain your battery.
Try turning battery saver on and check pretty much everything in there. Disable smart stay. Manually turn off your screen when you're not using it. Turn off GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi when you're not using it. Some downloads hang in the Play store if you "update all"... cancel these and download them one at a time. Do not just assume it all went to plan.
These tips on combination with my first post should help. You should get 4 hours of screen time with some phone calls in a single charge. I find certain apps like Scramble with friends chug charge faster than things like reading xda. Chrome for instance on the PC is less battery friendly and more resources intensive than IE. Perhaps the same is true for the mobile version.
There are way too many variables for us to pick out what your underlying issue may be. Start eliminating things and we'll keep throwing out new ideas. Good luck!
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My phones battery increased off of the charger. Anyone else having this happen? It jumped from 77 to 78 so idk what's going on.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...ii-cell-standby-power-drain-issue-identified/
I just posted a pretty good size list of apps that can be disabled. That helps save battery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740228
I have managed to narrow it down.
- I had 2 updates in market. I pressed update all.
- screen turned off when the first update was almost done.
- I pressed the power key and entered my pass to turn the screen on and left the phone on my desk.
- I kept seeing the smart stay icon, but the screen remained on.
- I moved phone without touching the screen...no change.
- held my hand over the camera at a distance of a few inches and the screen finally dimmed out.
This happened while google play had focus. This is a bug in smart stay or google play.
Somethings definitely up, this battery life is as bad if not worse than my epic 4g.
Did notice one thing... I cleared memory and it said 51 applications closed.... I don't even think i have that many applications on the phone!
Memory eats up a lot of power.
itisagoodname said:
Somethings definitely up, this battery life is as bad if not worse than my epic 4g.
Did notice one thing... I cleared memory and it said 51 applications closed.... I don't even think i have that many applications on the phone!
Memory eats up a lot of power.
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You're the second person I found that has the same problem as me! I can't even get 2hrs screen time through my day to day. The same day to day that my atrix was giving me 3.5hrs on.
I feel better knowing that I'm not doing something wrong, but could the phone just have that horrible of battery life and all these reports are a fanboi lie with review articles just copying each other?
I'm so glad im not the only one experiencing all of this! Lol, i upgraded from my mytouch 4G, i DID notice smart stay would come on at random times, sometimes when i wasnt even looking at my phone lol, disabled it & disabled a whole bunch of other crap & like many others & i dont get 4 hours screen time, more like 2 which sucks, id also like to have my data on all the time (but im forced to turn it off to save battery ), im rooted & ive uninstalled w.e crap i didnt need/want or felt it was just running for no reason. I'm doing the exact same battery steps i did with my mytouch & its sad =/ i was hoping i wouldnt have to do half of the ones im doing now, i LOVE my S3 but samsung needs to figure out wth is goin on & same with the guy who talked about if the articles r lying) i saw one on tech radar yesterday on battery life on the S3, they r either lying or they got a good phone in a good batch, smh, also experience my screen flickers from time to time while texting (i always close background processes) i notice blotches on the screen while texting at night or in the dark also, again i love my phone but u know, id love to have my data on constantly to check things quick without my battery going down drastically when i barely even touch it =/
I too have strange battery life. I usually leave my phone charging over night. When I unplug the battery in the morning, I lose about 10% every hour. However, when I get to around 80%, I recharge it again and it loses battery at a MUCH slower rate. Around 2% every hour on stand by. I'm not sure why this happens, but it does.
Also, there are some instances when I pick up the phone and it's pretty warm. Even though it's been sitting idle for about 20 min. Then there are times when I pick it up and it's normal room temperature. This leads me to believe that there are some processes going on while my phone is idle. I'm trying to find out what apps are causing this, as I believe it is causing my battery to drain while idle. It's very inconsistent, which is making it hard to track down. I don't even have a lot of apps installed. Most of it is actually the bloatware that came with my phone
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JayFReaZy said:
I too have strange battery life. I usually leave my phone charging over night. When I unplug the battery in the morning, I lose about 10% every hour. However, when I get to around 80%, I recharge it again and it loses battery at a MUCH slower rate. Around 2% every hour on stand by. I'm not sure why this happens, but it does.
Also, there are some instances when I pick up the phone and it's pretty warm. Even though it's been sitting idle for about 20 min. Then there are times when I pick it up and it's normal room temperature. This leads me to believe that there are some processes going on while my phone is idle. I'm trying to find out what apps are causing this, as I believe it is causing my battery to drain while idle. It's very inconsistent, which is making it hard to track down. I don't even have a lot of apps installed. Most of it is actually the bloatware that came with my phone
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I am starting to think it's ATT's LTE connection. I randomly have days where my battery won't make it until 5 pm without really using it very often. Other days, the phone goes all day with 4 hours plus of screen time no problem. On the really bad days, the phone will stay warm despite me closing every app with task manager. I am now experimenting with turning off mobile data (not a permanent solution), and the phone is cool to the touch again. It may be that the phone is burning up the battery in areas where the LTE connection is weak.
Pivo99 said:
My phones battery increased off of the charger. Anyone else having this happen? It jumped from 77 to 78 so idk what's going on.
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Mine did this as well I think it went up 3-4%.

Yet another mini Nexus 4 review

I know there have already been a million reviews of this device, but in case anybody wants a million and one, here's my 2 cents. If not, carry on.
This is my first Nexus device, coming from SGS2 and before that the original HTC EVO. I'm on T-Mobile USA.
After one week with the Nexus 4 my verdict so far is: good with potential to become great. Here are a few quick thoughts in pro/con format:
PROS:
- Super fast and fluid, I've noticed no lag whatsoever. Haven't played any 3D games yet though
- The N4 is definitely a sexy device and feels great in the hand
- I do like the smoothness of the glass and the curved screen edges.
- Painless unlocking / rooting
- Best phone for the price, by far
- Love having a notification light again, hallelujah
CONS:
- Have to say I am a little disappointed in the screen. It's not terrible but I guess I've been spoiled by the saturated screen of my SGS2. The N4 was just.....underwhelming. Sharpness is fine but the first thing I noticed is how dull the colors seemed compared to my SGS2. I'm sure I'll get used to it but I'm not able to call it an "upgrade".
- Surprised at the bugginess of Jelly Bean, I'd say I get one random reboot per day, maybe two. There are also other random oddities such as the bluetooth toggle not working properly, force closes, etc.
- I've had trouble with connectivity/connection speeds on both WiFi and cellular data, if I can't get them resolved it may end up being a dealbreaker.
- Battery is....meh so far. I've done all the recommended tips of disabling/removing this & that, and I generally make it through my day of low to moderate usage, barely. I have yet to have screen time of more than 2-2.5 hours. If I upped my usage by even just a bit I'd need a top-off during the day.
- The device seems quick to warm up. Even when I'm doing something like light web browsing it's surprising to feel the device warm up in my hands.
- Gotta admit there are a couple of niceties I miss about Touchwiz such as the quick toggles in the notification drop down.
- Given the numerous reports of glass breakage / scratches makes me super careful about handling my headset. Almost paranoid, really. Luckily I have no visible wear so far but it would be nice to not have to worry so much about this. I do like my phones naked though so I'm probably asking for trouble.
- Some of my apps are buggy with 4.2, guess that's the price you pay for being on the cutting edge.
- Ringer / notifications are really, really, really quiet when the phone is laying flat on my desk.
- I'm not a huge fan of the growing amount of "Google Bloatware". One reason I like having a Nexus device is to not have to deal with all the carrier installed apps / services. But I dislike having to disable Google Magazines, Google Plus, location stuff, Google Talk, etc. etc. Maybe if the battery was at least up to the task of supporting all these things I wouldn't mind as much.
Admittedly most of the above "gripes" are minor, but it's surprising because on my old SGS2 I didn't really have any gripes at all. If I can clean up a few of the above items I'll be very, very happy. Overall I think I'll like the N4 better than my SGS2, but it's far from the landslide I thought it would be.
I really don't get this random reboot issue. I can honestly say I haven't had it reboot once and if had it for over a week ...
And for me the battery life is great ...
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Also about the heat ... I'm hearing a lot of talk that the voltages are set very high on stock and lowering them has helped the heat and not caused instability.. So may be worth checking it out
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I really don't get this random reboot issue. I can honestly say I haven't had it reboot once and if had it for over a week ...
And for me the battery life is great ...
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Haven't decided yet if getting a good battery is just a lottery or if it comes down to usage habits. Probably some of both. As for rebooting I just got another one upon uninstalling HD Widgets. Clicked uninstall and *poof* there it went
Strange ... Could it be a rouge app ? Iv got 30-40 apps installed and not had a reboot ... Its really strange ...
And yea totally. Its probably down to my usage . I do a lot of browsing and xda
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hfuizo said:
Haven't decided yet if getting a good battery is just a lottery or if it comes down do usage habits. Probably some of both. As for rebooting I just got another one upon uninstalling HD Widgets. Clicked uninstall and *poof*
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my battery life was terrible during the first week; I was so disappointed. After two weeks the battery life has improved so much that I easily get 4hrs of screen time. When on idle it only drops 3%/hour
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my battery life was terrible during the first week; I was so disappointed. After two weeks the battery life has improved so much that I easily get 4hrs of screen time. When on idle it only drops 3%/hour
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Have a hard time believing it will get better but I'll cross my fingers. I have heard multiple reports of this, so maybe there's hope.
I have just now ticked over to 4 hours screen on time .. 15% left
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I have just now ticked over to 4 hours screen on time .. 15% left
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So jealous.... :crying:
I'm at 56% battery remaining with a screen time of 54 minutes, won't even break 2 hours on this charge.
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So jealous.... :crying:
I'm at 56% battery remaining with a screen time of 54 minutes, won't even break 2 hours on this charge.
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Damn that does suck ... You doing alot of gaming and stuff like that
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Damn that does suck ... You doing alot of gaming and stuff like that
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No gaming at all, today some light web browsing, 20 minutes of podcasts, a few texts, and a couple minutes of phone calls, that's it.
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When on idle it only drops 3%/hour
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You say that as if it's good. Many phones will drop 3% in 10 hours on idle.. 3% per hour while sleeping is downright bad dood.
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[Q] Battery from 45% to dead immediately?

Last night before going to bed I decided to turn my tablet off (it was around 45% battery left). When I tried to turn it on this morning, it was dead; no response. So I plugged it in and after a few minutes it booted up. I went to the battery settings and saw that it dropped off to dead pretty much instantly. Here's a screenshot after charging for a few hours.
Does anyone know how this happened, if it can happen again, or if it was just a random occurrence?
I'm on stock 4.2.2 rooted, and the only app I installed yesterday was "avast!" security to try it out.
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drewgillesp said:
Last night before going to bed I decided to turn my tablet off (it was around 45% battery left). When I tried to turn it on this morning, it was dead; no response. So I plugged it in and after a few minutes it booted up. I went to the battery settings and saw that it dropped off to dead pretty much instantly. Here's a screenshot after charging for a few hours.
Does anyone know how this happened, if it can happen again, or if it was just a random occurrence?
I'm on stock 4.2.2 rooted, and the only app I installed yesterday was "avast!" security to try it out.
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Same thing just happened to me only I had more than 45% and was using it at the time. The screen would flicker every time I would touch it and keep flickering for about 3 secs if I swiped to change home screens. Display went dark and was unresponsive. After plugging it in it finally booted and said I was at 0% battery.
OP: it could be a problem with the reported charge left in the battery, or a hardware defect that is grounding to the chassis and then through you that is sucking all the charge out. No app or anything can possibly drain the battery that fast, even at max load and max CPU speed constantly. The only way charge can leave a device that abrupt and by that large an amount is by a short somewhere in the hardware.
Vindico: sounds like a definite hardware problem to me and the tablet should be replaced. As I said above, there is no possible way in all of electronics and physics for a battery to be drained that fast and suddenly with our hardware in any situation other than a short in the hardware.
45% of charge loss in a few minutes is simply not possible without huge amounts of heat being generated... I assume the calibration or measurement is completely off... Or do you see bubbles coming out of your Nexus 10? :laugh:
I've had this happen to me twice, each around the same 45%. Except i must have caught it pretty much soon after it happened because the tablet was really hot each time, and took about 5 minutes of being plugged in before the charging icon would come up.
This happened to me today, and it happened 2 weeks ago.
While I don't have any technical advice to give, I purchased my tablet in December and Google is replacing my tablet free of charge.
Samsungs quality control on this thing has been pathetic. Here's hoping I get a better copy next time.
Cahce?
Have you tried clearing Battery stats? You should give it a shot, I have had a similar problem with my Galaxy S2 & S3.. It was fixed after i cleared the stats.
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Have you tried clearing Battery stats? You should give it a shot, I have had a similar problem with my Galaxy S2 & S3.. It was fixed after i cleared the stats.
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Probably a coincidence. Android generates battery stats on boot always. Clearing them does absolutely nothing. That is straight from what Google said when it was all the rage to clear your battery stats when flashing a new ROM or kernel years ago.
Well I think its more of a reportage problem... I have this new nexus 10 which is showing the same problem..
Once my tablet screen flickered and went off... And it responded only after 10-15 min of charging...
Now also at times the battery status will get stuck at some particular percentage and wont update automatically however a reboot will set things straight...
Overall battery life is not diminished so the other scenario of battery being rapidly depleted due to some hardware is quite unlikely...
Besides the whole time the battery was stuck at one particular percentage was when i was actively using it and screen was on... So ideally the battery should have drained during this time...
Bringing this back to life, mine just died at 50%
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I have the same problem. Battery is 100%, I disconnect charger and then few seconds/minutes and reset. After reboot it stop at X sign and reset again and again, and again.
When I connect charger Nexus can boot but it shows 0% empty battery! After few seconds/minutes battery shows 100% again.
So I think that my battery is broken (or battery controller at least).
In my opinion Nexus 10 has very poor quality during production (reboots, battery problem, heating problem etc.). So I'll never ever buy a Android tablet again, especially a Nexus line or from Samsung. It is unacceptable for me to sell product with so many bugs.
I just charged to full while the device was off and plugged in, and deleted the battery stats. I'll report how it goes.
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No change after deleting battery stats, still shut down at ~32%.
Time for a warranty.
Exact same issue, 2 days in a row :/ Every time it reaches around 50% it powers off and won't turn back on without the charger :/ What do I do? I only got this on Wednesday!
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Ughhh just had this happen to me. Hit 32% and boom shut off. Really lime the tablet but this is kind of a deal breaker. Anymore news of a fix. I'm running AOKP 4.2 right now.
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Ughhh just had this happen to me. Hit 32% and boom shut off. Really lime the tablet but this is kind of a deal breaker. Anymore news of a fix. I'm running AOKP 4.2 right now.
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Not sure about an actual fix, outside of a battery replacement, etc.
Mine is currently at Samsung for repairs, which has been "fun". I started by sending it in after describing the problem as "while discharging, the battery will drain as it should to about 50%, then immediately to 0% and the tablet shuts off saying the battery is dead". The original call taker, who was really nice, took it as a "charging problem" and didn't say anything to me. The repair status tracking online just said "component replaced" so I decided to call. Turns out they just replaced the charging port, nothing else. Not going to fix my problem though. So, I re-explained the problem and the nice lady said that she should transfer me to advanced tech support. Sweet! Finally someone who knows the issue! WOOT!! Someone named Robert totally understood the problem, put me on hold, and came back and said "Okay, so, just to make sure we really get the problem fixed, I'm having them replace the whole motherboard, battery, and the connection terminals that the battery hooks to" (I forgot the name). "We're taking the shotgun approach here, so hopefully it'll fix your problem. I'm also writing a better description of the light leak in the bottom corner, and having them expedite the repair since it's been here for 5 days already".
Robert, you sir, are my hero today.
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Not sure about an actual fix, outside of a battery replacement, etc.
Mine is currently at Samsung for repairs, which has been "fun". I started by sending it in after describing the problem as "while discharging, the battery will drain as it should to about 50%, then immediately to 0% and the tablet shuts off saying the battery is dead". The original call taker, who was really nice, took it as a "charging problem" and didn't say anything to me. The repair status tracking online just said "component replaced" so I decided to call. Turns out they just replaced the charging port, nothing else. Not going to fix my problem though. So, I re-explained the problem and the nice lady said that she should transfer me to advanced tech support. Sweet! Finally someone who knows the issue! WOOT!! Someone named Robert totally understood the problem, put me on hold, and came back and said "Okay, so, just to make sure we really get the problem fixed, I'm having them replace the whole motherboard, battery, and the connection terminals that the battery hooks to" (I forgot the name). "We're taking the shotgun approach here, so hopefully it'll fix your problem. I'm also writing a better description of the light leak in the bottom corner, and having them expedite the repair since it's been here for 5 days already".
Robert, you sir, are my hero today.
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Who did you contact for repair? There was nothing in my warranty book about who to contact. The pay store said to contact Samsung directly for the nexus 10
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Okay I had the same problem that everybody else here has had. I have reflashed the stock rom and unrooted and locked my Nexus and everything seems to be working perfectly since then. No more reboots freezes or incredibly large battery dropping since then.
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Moto X pure battery problems

Im sorry if I do something wrong, I'm new at this. I have had my mxp for a while now and I never got great battery life but recently it has been terrible, when I unplug it I lose 5% in a couple minutes without even using it! I updated to Android 7.0 to see if that would help at all sadly it hasn't. I also turned wifi and Bluetooth scanning off and location is on battery saver. I haven't gotten 2 hours of sot in forever even with lite use, I swear I'm always plugged in. I included screenshots of my battery usage from an average day, is there anything I can do to fix/help it?
Thank you for your time
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If you have poor standby time, and you have root you can try better battery stats. It should help you nail down if your phone isn't getting into deep sleep, and what is keeping it awake. Without root you can still get a feel for how much the device is awake by looking at the details you get when you touch the trend in Settings -> Battery.
You could try booting into safe mode and seeing if your battery life improves. That will disable everything but system apps. Do it by long pressing Power Off after holding the power button to bring up the power menu. It won't tell you what app is the problem, but it will let you know if you have a rogue app you installed causing battery drain.
Sorry but the images are broken!
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If you have poor standby time, and you have root you can try better battery stats. It should help you nail down if your phone isn't getting into deep sleep, and what is keeping it awake. Without root you can still get a feel for how much the device is awake by looking at the details you get when you touch the trend in Settings -> Battery.
You could try booting into safe mode and seeing if your battery life improves. That will disable everything but system apps. Do it by long pressing Power Off after holding the power button to bring up the power menu. It won't tell you what app is the problem, but it will let you know if you have a rogue app you installed causing battery drain.
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My phone was at 48% and I restarted it and it turned back on with 5% battery any idea how that can happen? I rebooted it again to see if it was a mistake but came up as 4% I wish I could include the screenshot but I'm too new I guess.
Your battery is failing. Theres nothing other than a battery replacement.
Dylanburns said:
My phone was at 48% and I restarted it and it turned back on with 5% battery any idea how that can happen? I rebooted it again to see if it was a mistake but came up as 4% I wish I could include the screenshot but I'm too new I guess.
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My phone started doing this almost 4 month ago, when i updated to nougat. Normaly for me the problem is with the battery meter but not the battery. That means that the phone still have 46% and if you use it you will see the battery get stuck at 4%. Just don't restart your phone. Also after charging your phone power it off and on, if you see a jump in battery just keep charging and repeat the process until there is no change! There is a big chance that also your battery is almost dead but if you not add screenshots of your use there is no much more we can do for you!
I posted it in an other topic with simillar topic , it might be useful :
I had this weird problem with my battery too! MXPE on stock nougat , as soon as I charged my phone to 100% and plug out it used to drop below 80 in 2 minutes ! and then when the percentage hit ~20% It used to turn off showing that white screen you mentioned, however when I plugged the phone in it would start charging at ~15% ! so I tried recalibrating my battery and it is surprisingly effective !
here is the method:
1) drain your phone battery until it shuts down.
2)power it on again and you will see that white battery low picture. plug the charger for 3 or more seconds and out, it will boot up again but as soon as the Rom boots up the phone will die again . do it multiple times.
3)charge the phone while it is off until 100%. turn it on and drain the battery as fast as possible (max brightness, volume, streaming videos on cellular data and running benchmarks will do ) till the phone dies again.
4) repeat (2)
5) charge the phone up to 100% while it is off ! and there you go your battery is recalibrated and good to go!
Obviously, this will shorten the batteries lifespan but since I believe you have it for a long time It won't be an important matter!
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My phone started doing this almost 4 month ago, when i updated to nougat. Normaly for me the problem is with the battery meter but not the battery. That means that the phone still have 46% and if you use it you will see the battery get stuck at 4%. Just don't restart your phone. Also after charging your phone power it off and on, if you see a jump in battery just keep charging and repeat the process until there is no change! There is a big chance that also your battery is almost dead but if you not add screenshots of your use there is no much more we can do for you!
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Can you see these images?
Yes, it seems that your battery es dead. You can try one last thing if you want. Try to use the phone in safe mode and check how much Screen on time you got. To enter safe mode press the power button until the power off prompt appear. Then maintan the turn off pressed and the device will reboot to safe mode.
Better battery stats will work fine with non rooted phones you just have to run some commands in adb.
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Yes, it seems that your battery es dead. You can try one last thing if you want. Try to use the phone in safe mode and check how much Screen on time you got. To enter safe mode press the power button until the power off prompt appear. Then maintan the turn off pressed and the device will reboot to safe mode.
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I tried safe mode and battery still drains super fast. What is Motorola's policy on replacing batteries or is there not one?
Dylanburns said:
I tried safe mode and battery still drains super fast. What is Motorola's policy on replacing batteries or is there not one?
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If the phone is under warranty they must replace your battery. If the phone isn't then you have to ask and see what happens and how much they will charge you.
Also it is not dificult to do it yourself. You will need a really good T4 screw driver, a heatgun, doble sided tape or a sticker to put the back agin. Finally a good battery replacement. You can search in the section for battery replacement and search youtube for tutorials. Good Luck with that!
Battery is now consistently dieing around 30 percent now, I think it's time for a new phone sadly.
Nearly a month now that battery dying at around 25-30% and hardly see the battery saver mode anymore. Also SOT hardly gets more then 1.5 hours so i think my battery life time is gone too.
Update: Strange behaviour today. After nearly a full charge got a auto power off some minutes after and when opened again it has gone directly at 3%
Will give it a try with a normal charger just to make sure the problem isnt with the turbo one!
Any suggestions for a replacement for my MXP? I'm looking at the $300 price range and headphone jack is a must!
Onward is the only way forward.
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Any suggestions for a replacement for my MXP? I'm looking at the $300 price range and headphone jack is a must!
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Moto X Pure Edition... 64GB edition . HTCs from that time period are said to be good all-around as well, but run even more expensive than the Pure Edition already does (and it seems to be holding its value somewhat better than expected). Personally, if my Pure Edition doesn't pull through, then I might just find another one, but the Nexus 6 has been a decent temporary replacement (aside from that screen).
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Any suggestions for a replacement for my MXP? I'm looking at the $300 price range and headphone jack is a must!
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Moto G5 Plus or G5S Plus... Or Honor 7x
To be honest, these are the only phones in the $200-$300 price range I would look at right now... Either will increase battery life 2-4 times, include SD card support, have a traditional headphone jack, and at least as much horsepower. Most other things like camera is a wash, the main drawback of any of these is they do not have NFC and sound quality can be a bit lacking, but few phones under $300 do with similar features.
A budget alternative (under $200) is the ZTE Axon 7 Mini at $169.99 from B&H Photo, it is an extremely under-rated device and although it is pushing just over a year old, it's features are hard to deny for the price, including NFC and truly amazing sound quality from both headphones and the stereo speakers. When this phone released it was $300.
TBH though, if I had to buy a device today and I had $200~$250 available... It would be the Honor 7x. Even pushing $350 to near $400, I would still go this route but once you hit $400 the choices I would make change a bit.
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Moto G5 Plus or G5S Plus... Or Honor 7x
To be honest, these are the only phones in the $200-$300 price range I would look at right now... Either will increase battery life 2-4 times, include SD card support, have a traditional headphone jack, and at least as much horsepower. Most other things like camera is a wash, the main drawback of any of these is they do not have NFC and sound quality can be a bit lacking, but few phones under $300 do with similar features.
A budget alternative (under $200) is the ZTE Axon 7 Mini at $169.99 from B&H Photo, it is an extremely under-rated device and although it is pushing just over a year old, it's features are hard to deny for the price, including NFC and truly amazing sound quality from both headphones and the stereo speakers. When this phone released it was $300.
TBH though, if I had to buy a device today and I had $200~$250 available... It would be the Honor 7x. Even pushing $350 to near $400, I would still go this route but once you hit $400 the choices I would make change a bit.
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I have been looking at the Honor 7x and seems like a good phone, do you think the LG V20 is worth the extra 120$ over the 7x?
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I have been looking at the Honor 7x and seems like a good phone, do you think the LG V20 is worth the extra 120$ over the 7x?
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Honestly... I haven't liked LG devices since the G2 when I had a bad experience with it, but many people do like them... My issue here would be your paying ~$320 for a phone that is 15 months old, there isn't much argument about it's capabilities, most people like it. I would hop over to the XDA group for that device and read up some of the threads over the last view months and see what kind of issues people have been having, just silently skim for a bit and you will get a better feel for the device. On the good side it has a removable/replaceable battery, that would be a huge plus for this device. Your call on this one.
Personally, I just don't see the cost/benefit of most phones over $300 anymore... You can get a reasonable device for $200-$300 and in general to get much more you need to double or triple that amount now days but it isn't 2-3 times better.

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