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I figured out what drains the battery

Its rayanza's lag fix i just formated my internet sd card flashed vibrant 6 rom and did not apply any lag fix and guess what the battery is not draining anymore. But the phone lags is there a alternative to rayanza's lag fix?
And for the people with battery problems try it.. You will see

I have the lag fix and not one thing has changed for me but benchmark scores. Although I didnt have battery issues before so I do not know if it helped anything or not lol

flameinthefire said:
Its rayanza's lag fix i just formated my internet sd card flashed vibrant 6 rom and did not apply any lag fix and guess what the battery is not draining anymore. But the phone lags is there a alternative to rayanza's lag fix?
And for the people with battery problems try it.. You will see
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You're wrong.

I have gone through 2 vibrants and now on my third one. First one never would lock a carrier signal to use it, so back it went. The 2nd i rooted and applied lagfix and had all sorts of issues, and than finally it just bricked and would just go to the first image boot over and over and over and never came out of it. Couldnt even get to recovery mode to just put back to stock. Third one now is working great without lagfix but is still rooted. I dont see the need for it to use lagfix just for it to open apps faster. Doesnt really do anything but that to me. Sorry.. im very new to this type of smartphone as i came from using blackberry for over 5+ years. My wifes vibrant has no issue at all so far but only rooted to use the wifi hotspot. As for the battery part i didnt really notice a differnce in battery time on the lagfix and the non lagfix vibrants i have.

no i am not i am speaking from experience there is no need for me to lie.

is there any other lag fix? i just applied it again to see if it makes a difference and it drained 10 percent in 5 mins so.......

The only one that i used was RyanZAEXT2LagFix BETA 2-3 when i used lagfix on my 2nd vibrant. But it just led up to issues after issues until the phone pretty much bricked. But i dont ever recall seeing any difference in battery drain.

You killed 2 vibrants? You sir are a bad bad man and I hope you had to pay for the third one full price. You should know what your doing before you do something to your phone.
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This is the lagfix I use: http://android.modaco.com/content/s...fix-using-internal-memory-and-playlogo1-hack/ If you have Vibrant6 then just use ADB and type the commands in.
I prefer this lagfix,
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compared to RyanZA.. since I actually get more app space, Will I use it all? No. but its nice for whatever reason.
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Stock Kernel.
But when I did use RyanZA.. I didn't notice any battery life drains, so it's most likely something else.

I have the lag fix installed and haven't seen any difference in battery drain.

bauerlucas said:
You killed 2 vibrants? You sir are a bad bad man and I hope you had to pay for the third one full price. You should know what your doing before you do something to your phone.
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Im pretty certain i know i was doing.
The first phone was not even me at all. It was like that out of the box. Brought the phone home, put in my sim and nothing, no carrier network lock. Thought it might of been the sim card itself. Went to tmobile corp store and showed the phone and swapped out for new sim. It had the same issue.
Second phone carrier network locked fine. First thing i did was root it. Piece of cake. than did the lag fix.. no issues after install, than installed setcpu and juice up on it. after i set them up the phone would still get extremely hot and than basically reboot on its on even when i had setcpu clocked down to 800. 400 when screen is off. Even than when i did that the phone would go into a deep sleep and never come out unless i battery pull. uninstalled juice and setcpu seem to work where it wouldn't reboot, but still get extremely hot, not even being on it for 5-10 minutes. Than started to setup my emails and other apps and apps where forcing to close and freeze. phone calls would work but the screen would freeze where i could not get to the dial pad to enter numbers and look for contact info while on the phone, and than one day i was on the phone for like 2 minutes and the phone complete rebooted into the vibrant boot screen and loop at that only never getting past the vibrant boot screen image. It would just blank and go back to it, blank and go back. Took it back to tmobile and they never seen that happen.
Swapped out for third one now. Rooted but no lag fix and installed all same apps i use and emails etc.. and phone works flawless. So i don't think the lag fix is a necessity for me to use at this time. Only thing i saw with using it was that it open apps quicker. I dont see a huge point for me to use that if thats all it does. I dont see any other advantages of using lag fix at this time.

That's bad luck you made it sound like you briked your 2nd one installing the lag fix. I have not had any problems with my vibrant besides the gps. Well good luck man.
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zephiK said:
This is the lagfix I use: http://android.modaco.com/content/s...fix-using-internal-memory-and-playlogo1-hack/
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Ummm... That IS the RyanZA fix, just without the scripts to make installing it easier.
I've used all the lag fixes, and run without one. The battery doesn't really change with them. The biggest problem I've found is that something in the System process occasionally goes nuts and runs at 100% all the time. The phone gets hot and the battery drains very fast. You can see it if you get the System panel app and scroll to the bottom. Rebooting fixes it, so it's probably just a firmware bug.

ttabbal said:
Ummm... That IS the RyanZA fix, just without the scripts to make installing it easier.
I've used all the lag fixes, and run without one. The battery doesn't really change with them. The biggest problem I've found is that something in the System process occasionally goes nuts and runs at 100% all the time. The phone gets hot and the battery drains very fast. You can see it if you get the System panel app and scroll to the bottom. Rebooting fixes it, so it's probably just a firmware bug.
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Oh it is? Never noticed, just noticed that when I applied the RyanZA's one-click, it would always appear with a error about low internal space so I tried the adb code one and ended up with more space. Thanks for the clarification!

bauerlucas said:
That's bad luck you made it sound like you briked your 2nd one installing the lag fix. I have not had any problems with my vibrant besides the gps. Well good luck man.
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I dont think it was the lag fix itself. since it installed fine after i got the new phone and first thing i did was root it and applied lagfix very first two things i did with the 2nd phone. so i really dont know what it was or what happened. But oh well.
"Third times a charm" hehe

Have y'all tried disabling the phone's animations to help with lag?
settings > sounds and display > animation > no animation
Just set mine to that setting. Appears to be running quite a bit better.
I had the lag fix on mine last week but it crashed and I had to wipe the phone clean. I'm not too eager about doing it again.

flameinthefire said:
Its rayanza's lag fix i just formated my internet sd card flashed vibrant 6 rom and did not apply any lag fix and guess what the battery is not draining anymore. But the phone lags is there a alternative to rayanza's lag fix?
And for the people with battery problems try it.. You will see
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For some reason, my battery would drain like crazy (stock, non rooted,) after about two weeks of usage. One day, I had pulled out the batter and noticed the 4th quarter of the battery was swelling. I called TMO and they sent me a new battery free of charge. No more battery drains and this one lasted a full day of work while blasting Pandora in my ears to cut out all the idiots yelling at each other. So, before you start blaming apps and lag fixes for battery drain, physically check your battery. These Li-Ion batteries do it, not all of them, just some of them. It also happened on my G1, which TMO would not replace it and I just took the battery out of a friends G1 who was sending it back for warranty work.
Edit: I have now rooted my phone, and with the old swelling battery after 3 hours of up time, and simple usage (mms, two short 5-6 minute phone calls and Terminal Emulator) I'm already at 64% off a full "off-state" charge. Meaning I charge my batteries while the phone is off so it doesn't drain while charging, as they say you should do. With my new battery with an "off-state" charge, 3 hours of uptime and I am sitting at 96% battery life with minor usage.

ttabbal said:
Ummm... That IS the RyanZA fix, just without the scripts to make installing it easier.
I've used all the lag fixes, and run without one. The battery doesn't really change with them. The biggest problem I've found is that something in the System process occasionally goes nuts and runs at 100% all the time. The phone gets hot and the battery drains very fast. You can see it if you get the System panel app and scroll to the bottom. Rebooting fixes it, so it's probably just a firmware bug.
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Ive had a very similar issue happen to me, my battery was daining completely in under 2 hours. But I found restarting the phone corrected whatever process got hung up. I thought it was Ryan's fix.. and it's possible it might be linked to it, but I don't think it's necessarily the cause of it. Just a combination of things going wrong.

red96turbols said:
Edit: I have now rooted my phone, and with the old swelling battery after 3 hours of up time, and simple usage (mms, two short 5-6 minute phone calls and Terminal Emulator) I'm already at 64% off a full "off-state" charge. Meaning I charge my batteries while the phone is off so it doesn't drain while charging, as they say you should do. With my new battery with an "off-state" charge, 3 hours of uptime and I am sitting at 96% battery life with minor usage.
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Please, do NOT use bulging batteries! They do that shortly before they fail internally and li-ions go up in a fireball when that happens.
You should dispose of that battery immediately. Don't have it in your home or near anything flammable. Treat it like it will spontaneously combust at any moment, as it has a good chance of doing exactly that.

my story is a bit different
I can personally say that RyanZA one click lag fix is what saved me from ultimately getting a different phone. I installed the lag fix one day and noticed I could go nearly 2 days on one charge with the same amount of usage. I did not install/uninstall anything other than apply the lag fix one weekend and bam, my battery is performing on par with what I'm used to on my old G1.

I Finally Did It! (24 Hour Battery)

I have been desperately trying for SEVERAL months to find a way to get my Samsung Epic to last ONE DAY. Many of you might say thats EASY but not for me. You see I am a POWER USER. Not one of those send a few text message, listen to some music, play a game or 2 users. I actually TALK on my phone a LOT.
I purchased a Yoobao 2800 MAH battery a couple months ago, thinking it would solve my problems and to my dismay I could ONLY get about 5-6 hours with the way I use my phone. So I began searching for apps and configurations that would help me achieve my 24 Hour goal and yesterday I finally found a configuration that works.....
My Results
Battery Life 25 Hours which included 4 HOURS OF ACTUAL TALK TIME W/ BLUETOOTH USAGE
Including 3 email accounts (2 Yahoo set to 1 hour check and 1 Corporate "PUSH" email)
A WHOLE GANG Of TEXT AND PICTURE MESSAGES...LOL
What I Have
Samsung Epic w/Yoobao 2800 MAH Battery
Running Stock Rooted EG22 (Leak) and Generation X "Green" theme.
What I used
Set CPU:
Set up profiles for maximum battery save when screen was OFF and when battery went below 30 percent
Juice defender (Free Version)
Tweaked for maximum efficiency using advanced settings
What I did
Themed everything as dark as possible (Go SMS Pro, Go Dialer, Go Contacts)
No Live wallpaper (Ovious...lol)
My Findings:
Contrary to popular belief....Tasks running in the background IS NOT the biggest source of battery drain. HAVING YOUR SCREEN ON IS! I was having NO success with any of the top task killers so I STOPPED USING THEM ALTOGETHER. All they seem to do is run constantly in the background (Even when the screen is off) killing apps that will RESTART themselves anyway after a few seconds. Juice defender works in a different way. By cutting off the data connection when the screen goes dark. That means any time Ii was on a call and the screen was dark, my data was cut off. (I dont usually need it when I am on the phone anyway) During this entire process I had a rather light wallpaper on my phone. so Im sure I could probably have saved a lil more battery if I wanted to.
Hopefully this will help some people get more battery life out of their epics. After all, whats the point in having a great phone if you can only use it (the way it was INTENDED) for a few hours.
Good Day To All!

lolz
im runnin ec05, srf1.2 rom, bright red & black theme(transmattered reds made by me) pulldown animation, stock battery, no memory mods, live wallpaper(my theme is mostly transparent so the live wallpaper is playing almost all the time), play pandora average of 4-5hrs a day, constantly checking fb xda email market(i have 120ish apps lol), & i get about 13hrs a charge...
you should try those changes on srf1.2 rom if you already havent... some people running similar setups have reported 2 full days or more...
but instead of set cpu you should try voltage control

BigBrotherMotown said:
That means any time Ii was on a call and the screen was dark, my data was cut off. (I dont usually need it when I am on the phone anyway)
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Pretty sure when you get a phone call it shuts off 3G anyways. Atleast whenever My phone rings my 3G symbol vanishes completely.
Congrats on the 25hours though

I dont think thats true... I've been on a call using speakerphone and 4g data at the same time... I think 4g data still works if you are on a call
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The key to good battery life is making sure your phone is sleeping properly when not in use. If CPU Spy shows 100Mhz much higher than deep sleep, then you got something that is keeping your phone from sleeping. I had a problem with some HP printer monitor on one of my computers pinging my phone constantly on my wifi network that would kill my battery if I let it sit with wifi on at home.

puff601 said:
I dont think thats true... I've been on a call using speakerphone and 4g data at the same time... I think 4g data still works if you are on a call
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when on a call 3g is automatically turned off & 4g is still usable

CapsLockKey said:
The key to good battery life is making sure your phone is sleeping properly when not in use. If CPU Spy shows 100Mhz much higher than deep sleep, then you got something that is keeping your phone from sleeping. I had a problem with some HP printer monitor on one of my computers pinging my phone constantly on my wifi network that would kill my battery if I let it sit with wifi on at home.
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The only way to do that with an ANDROID device is to power it off completely...LOL

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In the bottom right corner up there 1day 8 hours at 39%. I run srf, genocide, juwe ram tweaks, and set cpu with profiles to run the frequency lower as the day goes on.
Edit: I see now that that is a very ****ty picture. Man I just can't get screenshots right at all..
Cd's or tapes?

Talking on the phone and the 3g network use the same antenna, so you can only do one or the other. 4g and wifi use a different antenna so they will still work for data while on the phone.

Stringyquark said:
Talking on the phone and the 3g network use the same antenna, so you can only do one or the other. 4g and wifi use a different antenna so they will still work for data while on the phone.
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Its not the antenna its the chipset. Bluetooth and wifi share the same antenna but both can be used at the same time.

After I flashed the EG22 Modem and Leak I had a 25 hr battery, but now I get about 10 hrs. Weird.

I have juice defender but I never use it.
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xizzmatt said:
After I flashed the EG22 Modem and Leak I had a 25 hr battery, but now I get about 10 hrs. Weird.
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I saw roughly the same thing. Incredible battery life for the first day or two, then it would refuse to charge either of two batteries past 60%.

kynetx said:
I saw roughly the same thing. Incredible battery life for the first day or two, then it would refuse to charge either of two batteries past 60%.
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The same thing happenned to me too. When I flash the 8 screen lockscreen with the hotspot fix my battery life decrease.
Xhyperion said:
I have juice defender but I never use it.
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Juice defender is good when you want your phone to control your data.

srf 1.2, i had up to 1 and a half days, with cm7 i run two days easy.
righy now im at 74% battery, 1 day and 2 hours.

Magic Oreo said:
srf 1.2, i had up to 1 and a half days, with cm7 i run two days easy.
righy now im at 74% battery, 1 day and 2 hours.
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IS THAT WITH A STOCK BATTERY?!?
Thats unbelievable....

Until the newest RandomRom 2.3 Hawk I had the same problem trying to get my phone to last 24 hours. Now I have the RandomRom 2.3 Hawk installed with bloatware Removed, voodoo sound V9 module loaded, busy box pro and golauncher ex with over 100 apps also. 27 hours and I still have 14% battery life and that has been after using 4g for about 3 hours, flashlight for about 1 hour(teslaLED), played games for about 2 hours combined, sent about 40 emails, texted all day(about 150 texts), browsed the web for about 1 hour, watch some youtube videos for about 30 minutes and used navigation for about 30 minutes(coPilot). That is also with weather bug auto updating every hour and gmail sync'd to do its thing automatically. I am happier than I could ever describe now...I think I will finally leave my phone alone for a while now and stop flashing a million roms since I feel I have the best made for 2.3.4 now.

battery
I get about 18 to 20 hours of normal everyday use out of EG22 but i stay on wifi. on ec05 the most i could get is 6 hours, bottom line no matter what i tried. and thats with a stock battery.

[Q] Battery from 45% to dead immediately?

Last night before going to bed I decided to turn my tablet off (it was around 45% battery left). When I tried to turn it on this morning, it was dead; no response. So I plugged it in and after a few minutes it booted up. I went to the battery settings and saw that it dropped off to dead pretty much instantly. Here's a screenshot after charging for a few hours.
Does anyone know how this happened, if it can happen again, or if it was just a random occurrence?
I'm on stock 4.2.2 rooted, and the only app I installed yesterday was "avast!" security to try it out.
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drewgillesp said:
Last night before going to bed I decided to turn my tablet off (it was around 45% battery left). When I tried to turn it on this morning, it was dead; no response. So I plugged it in and after a few minutes it booted up. I went to the battery settings and saw that it dropped off to dead pretty much instantly. Here's a screenshot after charging for a few hours.
Does anyone know how this happened, if it can happen again, or if it was just a random occurrence?
I'm on stock 4.2.2 rooted, and the only app I installed yesterday was "avast!" security to try it out.
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Same thing just happened to me only I had more than 45% and was using it at the time. The screen would flicker every time I would touch it and keep flickering for about 3 secs if I swiped to change home screens. Display went dark and was unresponsive. After plugging it in it finally booted and said I was at 0% battery.

OP: it could be a problem with the reported charge left in the battery, or a hardware defect that is grounding to the chassis and then through you that is sucking all the charge out. No app or anything can possibly drain the battery that fast, even at max load and max CPU speed constantly. The only way charge can leave a device that abrupt and by that large an amount is by a short somewhere in the hardware.
Vindico: sounds like a definite hardware problem to me and the tablet should be replaced. As I said above, there is no possible way in all of electronics and physics for a battery to be drained that fast and suddenly with our hardware in any situation other than a short in the hardware.

45% of charge loss in a few minutes is simply not possible without huge amounts of heat being generated... I assume the calibration or measurement is completely off... Or do you see bubbles coming out of your Nexus 10? :laugh:

I've had this happen to me twice, each around the same 45%. Except i must have caught it pretty much soon after it happened because the tablet was really hot each time, and took about 5 minutes of being plugged in before the charging icon would come up.

This happened to me today, and it happened 2 weeks ago.
While I don't have any technical advice to give, I purchased my tablet in December and Google is replacing my tablet free of charge.
Samsungs quality control on this thing has been pathetic. Here's hoping I get a better copy next time.

Cahce?
Have you tried clearing Battery stats? You should give it a shot, I have had a similar problem with my Galaxy S2 & S3.. It was fixed after i cleared the stats.

ExjeetzZ said:
Have you tried clearing Battery stats? You should give it a shot, I have had a similar problem with my Galaxy S2 & S3.. It was fixed after i cleared the stats.
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Probably a coincidence. Android generates battery stats on boot always. Clearing them does absolutely nothing. That is straight from what Google said when it was all the rage to clear your battery stats when flashing a new ROM or kernel years ago.

Well I think its more of a reportage problem... I have this new nexus 10 which is showing the same problem..
Once my tablet screen flickered and went off... And it responded only after 10-15 min of charging...
Now also at times the battery status will get stuck at some particular percentage and wont update automatically however a reboot will set things straight...
Overall battery life is not diminished so the other scenario of battery being rapidly depleted due to some hardware is quite unlikely...
Besides the whole time the battery was stuck at one particular percentage was when i was actively using it and screen was on... So ideally the battery should have drained during this time...

Bringing this back to life, mine just died at 50%
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I have the same problem. Battery is 100%, I disconnect charger and then few seconds/minutes and reset. After reboot it stop at X sign and reset again and again, and again.
When I connect charger Nexus can boot but it shows 0% empty battery! After few seconds/minutes battery shows 100% again.
So I think that my battery is broken (or battery controller at least).
In my opinion Nexus 10 has very poor quality during production (reboots, battery problem, heating problem etc.). So I'll never ever buy a Android tablet again, especially a Nexus line or from Samsung. It is unacceptable for me to sell product with so many bugs.

I just charged to full while the device was off and plugged in, and deleted the battery stats. I'll report how it goes.
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No change after deleting battery stats, still shut down at ~32%.
Time for a warranty.

Exact same issue, 2 days in a row :/ Every time it reaches around 50% it powers off and won't turn back on without the charger :/ What do I do? I only got this on Wednesday!
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Ughhh just had this happen to me. Hit 32% and boom shut off. Really lime the tablet but this is kind of a deal breaker. Anymore news of a fix. I'm running AOKP 4.2 right now.
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jmill75 said:
Ughhh just had this happen to me. Hit 32% and boom shut off. Really lime the tablet but this is kind of a deal breaker. Anymore news of a fix. I'm running AOKP 4.2 right now.
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Not sure about an actual fix, outside of a battery replacement, etc.
Mine is currently at Samsung for repairs, which has been "fun". I started by sending it in after describing the problem as "while discharging, the battery will drain as it should to about 50%, then immediately to 0% and the tablet shuts off saying the battery is dead". The original call taker, who was really nice, took it as a "charging problem" and didn't say anything to me. The repair status tracking online just said "component replaced" so I decided to call. Turns out they just replaced the charging port, nothing else. Not going to fix my problem though. So, I re-explained the problem and the nice lady said that she should transfer me to advanced tech support. Sweet! Finally someone who knows the issue! WOOT!! Someone named Robert totally understood the problem, put me on hold, and came back and said "Okay, so, just to make sure we really get the problem fixed, I'm having them replace the whole motherboard, battery, and the connection terminals that the battery hooks to" (I forgot the name). "We're taking the shotgun approach here, so hopefully it'll fix your problem. I'm also writing a better description of the light leak in the bottom corner, and having them expedite the repair since it's been here for 5 days already".
Robert, you sir, are my hero today.

snowboarda42 said:
Not sure about an actual fix, outside of a battery replacement, etc.
Mine is currently at Samsung for repairs, which has been "fun". I started by sending it in after describing the problem as "while discharging, the battery will drain as it should to about 50%, then immediately to 0% and the tablet shuts off saying the battery is dead". The original call taker, who was really nice, took it as a "charging problem" and didn't say anything to me. The repair status tracking online just said "component replaced" so I decided to call. Turns out they just replaced the charging port, nothing else. Not going to fix my problem though. So, I re-explained the problem and the nice lady said that she should transfer me to advanced tech support. Sweet! Finally someone who knows the issue! WOOT!! Someone named Robert totally understood the problem, put me on hold, and came back and said "Okay, so, just to make sure we really get the problem fixed, I'm having them replace the whole motherboard, battery, and the connection terminals that the battery hooks to" (I forgot the name). "We're taking the shotgun approach here, so hopefully it'll fix your problem. I'm also writing a better description of the light leak in the bottom corner, and having them expedite the repair since it's been here for 5 days already".
Robert, you sir, are my hero today.
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Who did you contact for repair? There was nothing in my warranty book about who to contact. The pay store said to contact Samsung directly for the nexus 10
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Okay I had the same problem that everybody else here has had. I have reflashed the stock rom and unrooted and locked my Nexus and everything seems to be working perfectly since then. No more reboots freezes or incredibly large battery dropping since then.
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[Q] Disappointing Battery Life

I got a Nexus 4 yesterday, and so far it has been excellent. Really fast and has all the features I want. The battery life is pretty poor though. I am at 28% with a screen on time of only about 2 hours. The total time is about 8 hours. I haven't been using it a lot. The main thing consuming battery seems to be Nova Launcher for some reason. I have it on my Nexus 7 and it doesn't decrease battery life at all, but it seems to use a lot more on here. It was at 24% according to GSam Battery Monitor.
I just followed a bunch of instructions for increasing battery life from various websites so I will see how it goes. I now have all the Google syncing disabled, location services off and brightness on auto.
Is there anything I should be doing? Why is Nova Launcher's usage so high?
Thanks,
EDIT: Could it be the widgets I am using? I have two Gmail inbox widgets, the messaging widget and the circle battery widget.

Same here though I'm not sure its nova, my battery got as bad as yours when i rooted to stock.
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SupaLawlCat said:
EDIT: Could it be the widgets I am using? I have two Gmail inbox widgets, the messaging widget and the circle battery widget.
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it could, or any other apps you have working in the background. it can also be how you use the device. but before you assume anything about your battery life, give it 3-4 battery cycles before it normalizes.

simms22 said:
it could, or any other apps you have working in the background. it can also be how you use the device. but before you assume anything about your battery life, give it 3-4 battery cycles before it normalizes.
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Alright. I have minor OCD kind of thing so I always close the active apps through the task manager as soon as I exit them. I'll give it a few more days and then pursue the issue further.

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Alright. I have minor OCD kind of thing so I always close the active apps through the task manager as soon as I exit them. I'll give it a few more days and then pursue the issue further.
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im ocd about that too, lol. the back button to kill is one of my favorite custom rom features. also, autostarts and greenify are both great apps to make sure that you have mich less ctap opening in the background. anyways, im a heavy user normally, battery life on the nexus 4 id never call bad. usually i get 3.5-5.5 hours screen on time, depending on use. but then again, i use a custom kernel thats optimized for performance and battery. but, stock rom/kernel isnt bad on battery.

I too Force Close all the social networking apps before sleeping and turn wifi off. And i daily get around 4 hrs of OST. Will attach pics later to show. So to get 4 hrs OST you need really need to have a custom kernel. Just optimize your usage and you are fine with the stock kernel.
Phone is totally stock. Not rooted. And i got 6 pages on Apps installed.
I even used to clear RAM every now and then but I just stopped doing it as I couldn't find it doing anything better.

The battery life is much better now. Yesterday when I got back from school it was at 40% or so, and today it was at 68%.

Gets better after a few battery cycles. My battery life was average, so I rooted and with matr1x kernel it's snappier and better battery.
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i'm stock and my battery life was shockingly bad on the default settings until yesterday when i tried some fixes and they have made things much better.
looking at my N4 right now, i'm still on 58% after 22 hours. that's after several voice calls, some browsing & reading emails, GPS navigation using Maps, a couple of skype video calls, wake-up alarms etc.
basic fixes as follows:
- screen brightness right down to maybe 10-15%
- data off when not being used, ditto location services
- NFC and BT off.
- i've left wifi on as it doesn't seem to take much battery if it's not being used.
that's all! after charging last night, i woke after 6 hours or so and was amazed to see it had dropped only 1-2%, so apparently nothing is waking it from sleep.

One thing that really improved my battery life (when I had a Nexus 4) and something I tell to anybody with poor battery life, is to go into maps, go to settings, location settings, and uncheck "report from this device". If you've got the app "wakelock detector" just watch the wakelocks from maps almost entirely disappear. It nearly doubled my battery life at the time.
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One thing that really improved my battery life (when I had a Nexus 4) and something I tell to anybody with poor battery life, is to go into maps, go to settings, location settings, and uncheck "report from this device". If you've got the app "wakelock detector" just watch the wakelocks from maps almost entirely disappear. It nearly doubled my battery life at the time.
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Hey thx man that didn't work but it did start me down the path to fix my problem.
I found out it had something to do with my GPS options its in settings and location access WiFi and GPS location options i checked it off and now i am getting 1 hour screen on time for every %10 if you do the math i have about 8hours of screen on time! I also have setcpu app which is giving me about 48hours of standby time, i will upload some screens after a bit more testing.
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My battery life is brill and i never turn owt off or force anything to close, it is only bad when i play a 3d game or something but what do you expect. over night it only drops about 1% every 4 hours which is a bit bonkers.
(screen on auto, fully stock with Nova and not rooted)

root your ish bish and get dem kick ass kernel burnals and rom toms and you will nevers has to worry bouts turning ish off or freezing ice na saying homie foo schnickens 49 percent bombers up in this piece

still haven't charged my N4 since my last post on this thread.
now 1 day 15h and still 40% charge left

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root your ish bish and get dem kick ass kernel burnals and rom toms and you will nevers has to worry bouts turning ish off or freezing ice na saying homie foo schnickens 49 percent bombers up in this piece
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Lol, so whats a custom kernel? cuzz i think I don't hav one because i hav rooted stock rom. sorry not to change subject
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first day of full use in my nexus 4 I got 5 hours of screen on time. stock rom and kernel, just rooted. I think it's pretty decent.
just do what people say, disable location useless stuff and monitor your wake locks.
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If you would like to risk such things as unlocking bootloader, rooting, installing custom ROM and kernel, then it'd be easier for you.
Personally, I've found codefireX ROM and faux123 kernel to be battery friendly and very responsive, but of course you've got to be a bit fixed on such things as playing with your devices and getting fun from it to do that

another update:
after 20m browsing/ emails this morning and a couple of calls, i'm down to:
2d 9h 18m and 11%

disable auto brightness
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OK, I finally got the "connect to charger" message just now after 2d 13h. here are my final battery stats:
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Idle Battery Drain

So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?

I think it's because of the wifi. I too have experienced crazy idle drain compared to my G2 and it's really making me regret getting this phone. It seems like they just slapped the kitkat ROM together and didn't really care to test it very well because Lollipop is coming out so soon.

It's definitely draining at idle more than usual or should be, I agree. I don't think it is WiFi related though, or at least not enough to be the main problem. I could be wrong of course. I have also not experience any WiFi or Bluetooth issues whatsoever and I use a Moto 360 all day, every day.
I am currently on my 4th charge cycle since acquiring the 64GB BN model. It's been powered on for 7h 32m and I'm sitting at 78% with 1hr 18m SoT. That's with heavy usage and taking quite a bit of pictures & video during this mornings product demo presentations at work.
Hardly anything for me personally to complain about. I'm sure they will optimize it. I'm almost certain than Android L 5.0 will make this phone a true beast.
Time will tell.

are you leaving gps or high accuracy location settings on?

I have the same issue as the OP. My G3 lost very little battery life when idling. I've attempted shutting down email accounts, turning off location and selectively removing apps in hopes of determining the cause of the drain...without success. This could be a deal breaker if we don't get some type of root exploit soon.

Well this sucks. I was going to get the Turbo but now I'm going to wait and see what happens with this drain issue. Maybe 5.0 will fix it.

I have been using the same settings that I did on my G3, Auto brightness, Location OFF and Auto Sync. Glad I'm not the only one noticing it too, I think its all in the build of Kit Kat they put on this phone, hopefully L comes out soon.

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So I was posting some info in another thread but I figured I would make my own thread for it. It seems like the power consumption at idle might be the cause for the "not as good as expected" battery life. For example my G3 will sit off the charger for 4 hours without being used and still be at 100%, the Turbo loses 6% in that time. The G3 has a 3000mAH Battery and I could easily get 24h of off the charger time on the G3. My question is what is killing the battery on the Turbo??? Its kinda hard to look over the battery stats when there is no root. Anyone have any input?
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How about you start by posting screenshots of your battery stats from System...Battery
I don't have any issues whatsoever.

Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well once I figure out how to do that I will post it, but in the mean time what phone were you coming from? A few people have agreed in this post that the battery life is worse @ idle then the G3 so its not just me.
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Well G3 could be out of box, not trying to argue wanted to understand what your problem was. If you press the graph you'll see more details on what is using batteries (awake vs screen on, cell signal etc) and more in Android System if you go into that screen.
Overall what your getting .. 1-2% is not a big deal to me and beauty of the massive battery is you don't have to worry about but if really wanted to you could improve by turning off stuff you don't need or even automating it.
FWIW I'm coming from a GS3 with a tiny battery but even that phone lasted 5 days idling with the right setting for my use case (cell radio off / WiFi on). With Turbo just disabled some apps I didn't need and don't even think about it any more. I do have complaints about the Turbo but battery is definitely not one of them.

I'm interested in this as well. I bought my turbo yesterday evening and it had a pretty good charge (>80%) out of the box. I played with it for much of the evening and copied ~8gb of data to the phone via wifi. When I went to bed battery was at 60%, when I woke up it was 46%. I noticed that my third biggest battery use is command center, so I disabled auto-location in that app. I'm hoping to have better results on my first full charge.

Yeah I agree, but its literally the same settings I ran of my G3. I think I'm just gonna return it between the weak wifi and cell signal, and the camera it's just not worth it if the battery life isn't better then my G3

I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to, and it is NOT WiFi.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.

Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.

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I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Is there a hard date for the nexus?
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I've been posting in the other battery life thread... but to summarize, I'm going to be doing some thorough testing over the next 24/48 hours (currently ongoing).
I have already noticed significant improvements in my battery life. Has mentioned in the other thread. I'll be making a detailed post on Friday evening with my results.
I may also, from time to time post some of my progress, as I already have an understanding as to one of the issues involved with the so called "idle drain" everyone is referring to.
Keep your eyes on that thread here.
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Very interested in what you come up with, thanks!

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Thanks, I'm pretty good with understanding wake locks, I just don't know where to start without root since most the stats in BB require it. I'm intrested to see what you come up with. I'm gonna wait till Saturday anyway to see if I still want to trade this in for the nexus.
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Well you are limited with what you can do but I already gave you a start in my post, maybe you missed it. The only insight you will have without root (for tools like Better Battery Stats) is looking into all the info you can get out of Settings..Battery. There you can see wake locks vs screen on time and other stats like cell signal / wifi status etc. Then you can also dive into your biggest usage, for you it looks like it is Android System. They will list system services that are classified here. For example, you'll see the moto features are part of this. If you don't want to dig you can wait for Andromjb's updates
Overall I wouldn't base your decision to return the Turbo based on the battery -- base it on your other problems it sounds like you're having with wifi signal etc. That sounds like reason enough for a return. If you're ok with the larger size of the Nexus 6 then to me it's a no brainer to go with that instead of Droid Turbo since they are almost identical in terms of hardware.

For those that are getting battery drain, did you disable all of the verizon apps? There are some 20+ apps that are constantly running in the background and will drain your battery(even after i did a factory reset, these apps were sending data despite me never having opened them). Disable those, restart, then see if things change over the next cycle. I got 2d9hr31m and 4hr23 min of SOT(minimal usage) and was at 13%; this was on the first charge.

Could this drain be due to some of the sensors used for notifications. Doesn't the turbo have the feature where you stick your hand over it and it shows the notifications? If this is the case, wouldn't those sensors have to stay on?

Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.

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Yeah I have 27 apps disabled and it really didn't make a difference for me like it has in the past, their must be something killing the battery on this 30m of screen time and I'm at 79% shouldn't be happening.
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Thats actually really interesting. I haven't been experiencing anything like that. Perhaps try doing a factory reset then disabling them again. That's the only thing I did differently. Perhaps it's just a bad device? I'm already at 2hrs screen time, heavy downloading(off line apps), and have been on battery for 1d8hr- still at 45%. Is there anything in the battery stats? Wake locks perhaps?