**G4 DUAL SIM models - H818P / H818N (UPDATED W/ ROOT + XPOSED works!) ** - G4 General

*EDIT* UPDATED JANUARY 2016, =ROOT & XPOSED= work on all dual sim variants!
xxx NO ROOT FOR MM - ANDROID MARSHMALLOW WORKING YET! READ THIS THREAD! xxx
Thank you to all contributors. We topped 200 PAGES! I'll continue to update this OP to link users to various parts of this thread for other users/XDA browsers to quickly find relevant information.
H818P / H818N IS ROOTED!
It works and it's pretty safe...jsut follow the steps and READ everything!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62075670&postcount=381
Also available there are STOCK IMAGES on various softwares 10c, 10d, 10e (etc) PRE-ROOTED and ready to flash using those instructions.
Have ROOT? Here's how to DELETE and EDIT the UI sounds on G4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62089780&postcount=418
Here's a guide to installing Xposed framework (No unlocked bootloader or custom recovery is needed, just root!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62397758&postcount=606
AT TIME OF THIS POST UPDATE - NEITHER H818P nor H818N SUPPORT **SIMULTANEOUS** 3G/4G CONNECTIONS ON BOTH SIMS AT THE SAME TIME. ONE SIM ONLY! Keep reading below.
CONFIRMED:* H818P Does not work on Band 28 (700Mhz)... only Band 17. This has been confirmed by LG UAE. See my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62204877&postcount=533
* May 2015: LG announce at least two G4 *DUAL SIM* phones to be released with their latest flagship single-sim model to be released simultaneously (or within 1 month) after most market single-SIM release dates. The 2 most common models areH818P (Ukraine, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, UAE)] and the H818N (Hong Kong, China)
* (CONFIRMED) H818P model supports 3G/4G data connection on SIM1...It is ALSO supported on SIM2 (provided SIM 1 is set to 'GSM only' (or vice versa). It can be a bit tricky for some to get it working, here's how to do it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61621397&postcount=165 You can also see the functionality for BOTH sims from a user screenshots HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61115881&postcount=49
* (CONFIRMED) H818N model supports 3G/4G data connection on BOTH SIM1 & SIM2. Thanks to @Neutrality here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61674683&postcount=188 If you cannot enable LTE/4G on SIM 2, you are likely using an old software version (v10c or earlier) meaning you will need to access the hidden menu from the dialler. Open the phone dialler, type in 277634#*# suggested by @Syrop on page 18. who STEPS you through activation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62100690&postcount=460. If you have v10d, the option to choose 3G/4G on SIM2 should be readily available in normal menus. See @kanzone s post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62307988&postcount=572 and the one above it.
* Out of box, wireless charging is NOT supported on DUAL SIM models, as SIM2 is roughly in the position where the contact pins are. NFC capability is retained.
* H818P supports 4G LTE band 17 which is 700Mhz (not not Australia/NZ and other band 28 countries on 700Mhz). H818N does not support 700. @bahamot_zero confirms on page 2 with sticker/box image: Same with @Icewanted page 4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61010603&postcount=19 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61055401&postcount=34
* H818P USER MANUAL - LG OFFICIAL (English from page 367 onwards), 34MB PDF:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/90982755/LG-H818P_CIS_UG_Web_V1.0_150529.pdf
* Open source code for H818 dual SIMs from LG:
http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=H818
RoOSTA

I pre-order Indonesian dual SIM version.
I'll post my findings when I get mine

OP updated. Original post here has been removed.

Supported bands of the H815T (single SIM model sold in Hong Kong) and H818N (dual SIM):
LG G4 H815T 頻段資料
- 單卡版本 MicroSIM
- 支援 VoLTE
- 支援 4G Cat 6 (Carrier Aggreation) 最高 300Mbps
- 支援 FDD-4G LTE 頻段: B1 (2100)、B3 (1800)、B4 (1700/2100 AWS)、B5 (850) 、B7 (2600)、B8 (900)、B17 (700) 、B28 (700 TW) 
- 支援 TDD-4G LTE 頻段: B40 (2300)
- 支援 3G WCDMA : 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
- 支援 2G GSM 四頻 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LG G4 H818N 頻段資料
- 雙卡版本 MicroSIM
- 4G / 3G / 2G + 2G 雙卡雙待,人手轉換 SIM
- 支援 VoLTE
- 支援 FDD-4G LTE 頻段: B1 (2100)、B3 (1800)、B7 (2600)
- 支援 TDD-4G LTE 頻段: B38 (2600 CMCC)、B39 (1900 CMCC)、B41 (2600 Unicom)、B40 (2300)
- 支援 3G WCDMA : 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
- 支援 3G TD-SCDMA : 1900 / 2100
- 支援 2G GSM 四頻 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Also notable is the H818N does not support Cat. 6 LTE and wireless charging, if any of those matter to you. Both models also differ very slightly in dimensions so it remains to be seen if accessories are compatible with each other.

I pre ordered the dual sim version (H818P) i will have it on the 28th of may. Including battery pack and 64gb sd card.

Will be very interested to hear back from you
- also is there an online shop you can give us the URL , will yours be unlocked ?
I am in Australia but would like to order in Indonesia too
paulie72 said:
I pre ordered the dual sim version (H818P) i will have it on the 28th of may. Including battery pack and 64gb sd card.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

I ordered it at local LG Shop in Mall Ambasador. It is unlocked. You can check here https://www.blibli.com/preorder-ocb...clusive-battery-kit-sd-card-64-gb-474317.html
http://www.bhinneka.com/page/pbr150500008/pre-order_lg_g4.aspx?ref=fp_big_std_a_1
---------- Post added at 03:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:29 AM ----------
akyp said:
Supported bands of the H815T (single SIM model sold in Hong Kong) and H818N (dual SIM):
LG G4 H815T 頻段資料
- 單卡版本 MicroSIM
- 支援 VoLTE
- 支援 4G Cat 6 (Carrier Aggreation) 最高 300Mbps
- 支援 FDD-4G LTE 頻段: B1 (2100)、B3 (1800)、B4 (1700/2100 AWS)、B5 (850) 、B7 (2600)、B8 (900)、B17 (700) 、B28 (700 TW) 
- 支援 TDD-4G LTE 頻段: B40 (2300)
- 支援 3G WCDMA : 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
- 支援 2G GSM 四頻 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
LG G4 H818N 頻段資料
- 雙卡版本 MicroSIM
- 4G / 3G / 2G + 2G 雙卡雙待,人手轉換 SIM
- 支援 VoLTE
- 支援 FDD-4G LTE 頻段: B1 (2100)、B3 (1800)、B7 (2600)
- 支援 TDD-4G LTE 頻段: B38 (2600 CMCC)、B39 (1900 CMCC)、B41 (2600 Unicom)、B40 (2300)
- 支援 3G WCDMA : 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
- 支援 3G TD-SCDMA : 1900 / 2100
- 支援 2G GSM 四頻 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Also notable is the H818N does not support Cat. 6 LTE and wireless charging, if any of those matter to you. Both models also differ very slightly in dimensions so it remains to be seen if accessories are compatible with each other.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you know the 4G frequencies for the H818P? I thought 1800,2100 and 2600.

paulie72 said:
Do you know the 4G frequencies for the H818P? I thought 1800,2100 and 2600.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No idea about the H818P sorry.

LG G4 *DUAL SIM* models - H818P and H818N
i am looking at buying one of these dual sims units
is there any websites that ship to the uk ?

Not that i know of. You need to have soneone who can order it and ship it for you.

LG G4 *DUAL SIM* models - H818P and H818N
Oh well looks like I'm going to have to wait and hope the dual sim version comes to uk

akyp said:
Supported bands of the H818N (dual SIM):
- 雙卡版本 MicroSIM
- 4G / 3G / 2G + 2G 雙卡雙待,人手轉換 SIM
- 支援 VoLTE
- 支援 FDD-4G LTE 頻段: B1 (2100)、B3 (1800)、B7 (2600)
- 支援 TDD-4G LTE 頻段: B38 (2600 CMCC)、B39 (1900 CMCC)、B41 (2600 Unicom)、B40 (2300)
- 支援 3G WCDMA : 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
- 支援 3G TD-SCDMA : 1900 / 2100
- 支援 2G GSM 四頻 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Also notable is the H818N does not support Cat. 6 LTE and wireless charging, if any of those matter to you. Both models also differ very slightly in dimensions so it remains to be seen if accessories are compatible with each other.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes that much we know from the GSM Arena website, but not even that is all too comforting, especially when you consider this website and their presumptions on supported bands:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=8051&view=1&c=lg_g4_h818p_lte-a_lg_p1
What you are forgetting is the other dual SIM model ... the H818P? On LG's UAE website, so such specsw are even listed!
Does anyone know of the G4 dual sim (HOPING it's compatible with 700MHz 4g LTE band FDD) is available to order yet from a reputable international seller, or is it still not available?
Thanks
RoOSTA

Do these work in the states ??
do these work in the states ?

What is the code for the service menu so i can check this thursday when i get it?

If H818P users (UAE, Indonesia, Ukraine, Thailand etc) can post an IMAGE of their phone and the STICKER on the box confirming model number and compatable MHz bands, that would be appreciated.
Paulie72 I was under the impression vendors may start to receive this stock BY 28th May. Have you been told it will be in your HANDS by then?
RoOSTA

roosta said:
If H818P users (UAE, Indonesia, Ukraine, Thailand etc) can post an IMAGE of their phone and the STICKER on the box confirming model number and compatable MHz bands, that would be appreciated.
Paulie72 I was under the impression vendors may start to receive this stock BY 28th May. Have you been told it will be in your HANDS by then?
RoOSTA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am in Saudi Arabia, and LG announced that it will provide H818P (2 SIM Slots) with 64GB Micro SD Card.
Well, I have to wait until June 6, until it is officially released.
I hope I can get it sooner.

roosta said:
If H818P users (UAE, Indonesia, Ukraine, Thailand etc) can post an IMAGE of their phone and the STICKER on the box confirming model number and compatable MHz bands, that would be appreciated.
Paulie72 I was under the impression vendors may start to receive this stock BY 28th May. Have you been told it will be in your HANDS by then?
RoOSTA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes it will be in stock on the 28th of May. I will make a photo of both then. I am going to pick it up on 28th in the morning local time Jakarta.

Unfortunately the G4 is delayed so i hope to get it delivered tonight or tomorrow midday at our family residence.

Here you go, photo courtesy of springfield from Indonesian forum.

bahamot_zero said:
Here you go, photo courtesy of springfield from Indonesian forum.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you know where he bought it? They told me the shipment was delayed!!

Related

Which LG G2 are not compatible with Europe?

I want to buy a phone to a friend of mine in Europe but I have no clue that what frequencies are not compatible with the models of LG G2. I am excluding Sprint and Verizon models.
How about T-mobile and AT&T versions? Are they compatible and do they have a sim card slot?
Thanks in advance
All versions have a SIM card slot, but you'll definitely need to find out which frequencies your friend's carrier uses in order for us to be able to help you. You wouldn't want to buy a T-Mobile one and then find out you needed a Verizon one in order to get 3G in your carrier (happened to me).
If you don't know on which carrier phone will be used to check for bands and radio frequencies, AT&T LG-D800 is your best bet. It supports almost all of them excluding LTE bands.
I wonder what are the frequencies of T-mobile and AT&T versions? If I get them, I can find out the European frequencies. Any hint?
albsat said:
I wonder what are the frequencies of T-mobile and AT&T versions? If I get them, I can find out the European frequencies. Any hint?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LTE (4G)
700 Lower 700 (AT&T) / band 17 USA
850 Cellular / band 5 (V) Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
1700 AWS / band 4 (IV) Americas
1900 PCS / band 2 (II) Americas
WCDMA (3G / 4G)
850 Cellular / band 5 (V) Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
1700 AWS / band 4 (IV) Americas
1900 PCS / band 2 (II) Americas
2100 IMT / band 1 (I) Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania, Brazil, India, Israel
GSM (2G)
850 Cellular Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel
900 Europe, Asia, Africa
1800 DCS Europe, Asia, Africa
1900 PCS Americas
AT&T version (D800) does not support WCDMA 1700 / T-Mobile version (D801) does not support LTE 850
@Alex
So it seems both versions are compatible with Europe. Thanks man. Appreciate it.
The D803 Canadian version also includes some of the LTE European frequencies.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Mobile Network Bands and Oneplus One

I hope the following information is applicable for all countries....
India's mobile frequencies & bands are
2G : GSM 900 MHz, GSM 1800 MHz
3G : WCDMA/HSPA/UMTS 2100 MHz ---- which are equivalent to BAND 1
4G : TD-LTE 2300 MHz ---- which are equivalent to BAND 40
As you all know only Airtel is providing 4G in india in TD-LTE 2300 MHz.
Two types of LTE -- FDD LTE , TDD LTE (NEW China Standard mainly)
TD-LTE -- Time-division Long-Term Evolution
LTE TDD -- LTE Time-Division Duplex
TDD LTE -- Time-Division Duplex LTE
All above 3 are same I guess...
And the main stream LTE is called FDD-LTE - Frequency-Division Duplex LTE
-------------------------------------------------------------------
OPO International Bands are ----
-------------------------------------------------------------------
2G: GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
3G: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
-- Which are equivalent to --- 2100 /1900 / 1700 / 850 / 900 MHz ( Frequencies)
4G: LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
-- Which are equivalent to --- FDD 2100/ FDD 1800/ FDD 1700/ FDD 2600 / FDD 700 b c / TDD 2600 / TDD 2300
OPO Chinese Bands are ----
-------------------------------------------------------------------
2G: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
3G: WCDMA: 2100 / 1900 / 850 / 900 MHz
TD-SCDMA:1880-1920/2010-2025MHz
-- Which are equivalent to --- 1/2/5/8/39/34
4G: FDD-LTE :2100/1800/2600 MHz
TD-LTE:1880-1920/2300-2400/2570-2620MHz
-- Which are equivalent to --- 1/3/7/39/40/38
-------------------------------------------------------------------
So for India Both versions should work with all available telecom providers.
Let me know your thoughts guys...
:good:
No 4G on OPO in India
I thought of buying one, but seeing that it uses FDD LTE instead of TD, 4G will not work on this device in India.
WIND Mobile in Canada uses AWS Bands 1700/2100 in Canada. This phone is compatible with 4G 2100 as it shows, but not 1700. Do you think I will have 4G connectivity? Or 3G?
I bought one one from Lenteen and the 4G works perfectly in France with SFR
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
djfoo000 said:
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would also love to know this thanks
djfoo000 said:
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've flashed Chinese OnePlus ONE with CM 11S and am still missing the AWS bands (Wind, Mobilicity, T-Mobile USA)
flaming homer said:
I've flashed Chinese OnePlus ONE with CM 11S and am still missing the AWS bands (Wind, Mobilicity, T-Mobile USA)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I asume you flashed it with fastboot and not with recovery right?
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
wacky.ddw said:
I asume you flashed it with fastboot and not with recovery right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, yes and no. I brought back 3 Chinese OPO from Beijing, and flashed the first via fastboot while transiting in Tokyo - that one would NOT work in any of the Japanese carriers (using two different SIM - Fido from Canada and TuneTalk from Malaysia) while Samsung Galaxy S3 worked fine. The second one I flashed once back in Canada via the standard recovery method as described by GizChina, and that one does not work on AWS band when tested with Wind Mobile SIM while Fido & Speakout SIMs worked awesome
Given my Japanese experience I'm not inclined to think the fastboot flash is any better than standard recovery flash
flaming homer said:
Well, yes and no. I brought back 3 Chinese OPO from Beijing, and flashed the first via fastboot while transiting in Tokyo - that one would NOT work in any of the Japanese carriers (using two different SIM - Fido from Canada and TuneTalk from Malaysia) while Samsung Galaxy S3 worked fine. The second one I flashed once back in Canada via the standard recovery method as described by GizChina, and that one does not work on AWS band when tested with Wind Mobile SIM while Fido & Speakout SIMs worked awesome
Given my Japanese experience I'm not inclined to think the fastboot flash is any better than standard recovery flash
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey, u said your fido sim work awesome. does it give u 3g or LTE network?
wataru said:
Hey, u said your fido sim work awesome. does it give u 3g or LTE network?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Giving me 3G/H+, someone else said I may need a SIM upgrade - will try later
LTE on AT&T USA
djfoo000 said:
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Has anyone using the OPO on ATT and have no problems with 4G LTE?
I heard some people got it to work but then when it looses LTE connection it doesnt drop to 3G so the connection is lost or the call is dropped.
Please let me know if anyone has this situation happening.
Thanks!
i have chinese oneplus one and i havent use 4g in Turkiye

Buying the SM-N910W8 need help to understand some things...

I'm going to buy the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 SM-N910W8 from amazon.com, I seen that's the canadian version. The buyer says that's compatible with all GSMs worldwide, not only in North America. As I'm from Argentina, and the bands in Argentina are GSM-850 and 1900 MHz, does it work here? Also, the 4G LTE is coming to my country by the end of next year, with 1700/2100 Mhz and 700 Mhz bands for it. Does it work here?
GSM Arena says that the SM-N910W8 is compatible with:
3G- HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - N910W8
4G LTE- LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17) - N910W8
As I don't know about this (never seen the compatible bands when I buy a phone as it's the first time I buy one from USA), I don't understand if that means that's compatible or not.
Other question: What SoC does it have? Snapdragon 805 or Exynos? If it's Snapdragon, does it means that's compatible with Roms of other models?
Help please! Thanks!
If you can live with (potentially) reduced lte coverage then no reason you shouldn't go for it.
If you want to ensure maximum coverage then you should really find out what 700mhz band is to be used in your country (band 17 or 28).
Acording to Wikipedia 700MHz band 28
Sent from my SM-N910T using XDA Free mobile app
Which version of Samsung Note 4 phone is a better buy? SM-N910A vs SM-N910W8 [Moved
Hello,
I'm trying to make sense of the LTE frequencies, so maybe you can help.
The situation: I'd like to buy the phone and use it on AT&T LTE in the US, but -- very important -- also use it for data when traveling outside the US. Also, I'd like the ability switch providers in the US (that's why I'm not buying a subsidized phone from AT&T).
The question: The Note 4 model SM-N910W8 has more LTE frequencies than the model SM-N910A. I assume it means that the SM-N910W8 is more likely to perform well in foreign countries and on other US carriers. If so, that's a better purchase than AT&T model of the phone (SM-N910A). Is this correct?
The data:
According to GSM Arena, the "North American" model SM-N910W8 supports
LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17)
According to Samsung website, the specialized AT&T version of the phone SM-N910A supports
2G GSM : 850/900/1800/1900;
3G WCDMA : Band I/Band II/Band V;
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17
(the system won't allow me to provide links to the data sources, but PM me if you'd like them)
Thanks to everyone, I just decided to buy the N910C version due to I'm sure that it will work in my country (as it's the model that will come here officially). "Preparing for Shipping" says Amazon, I cannot wait!
NYCgirl said:
Hello,
I'm trying to make sense of the LTE frequencies, so maybe you can help.
The situation: I'd like to buy the phone and use it on AT&T LTE in the US, but -- very important -- also use it for data when traveling outside the US. Also, I'd like the ability switch providers in the US (that's why I'm not buying a subsidized phone from AT&T).
The question: The Note 4 model SM-N910W8 has more LTE frequencies than the model SM-N910A. I assume it means that the SM-N910W8 is more likely to perform well in foreign countries and on other US carriers. If so, that's a better purchase than AT&T model of the phone (SM-N910A). Is this correct?
The data:
According to GSM Arena, the "North American" model SM-N910W8 supports
LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17)
According to Samsung website, the specialized AT&T version of the phone SM-N910A supports
2G GSM : 850/900/1800/1900;
3G WCDMA : Band I/Band II/Band V;
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17
(the system won't allow me to provide links to the data sources, but PM me if you'd like them)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
According to the data, your statement should be correct.
vndnguyen said:
According to the data, your statement should be correct.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I just want to verify that I'm not missing anything.
the 910U is better for you. its exynos and works well in north america and europe and most of asia.
That's right. According to Samsung, SM-N910U supports LTE on "B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B28(700)". In Europe, bands 3, 7 and 20 are commonly used.

Redmi 3S - Global version vs Chinise

I have a question about hardware difference between Xiaomi Redmi 3S China version and the Global one.
I thought that the only difference is the EU-plug, but I noticed this item on aliexpress with LTE B20 (800MHz) support.
I asked the seller about it and the seller insists that all of that is true.
Can someone confirm or deny this situation?
zBear said:
I have a question about hardware difference between Xiaomi Redmi 3S China version and the Global one.
I thought that the only difference is the EU-plug, but I noticed this item on aliexpress with LTE B20 (800MHz) support.
I asked the seller about it and the seller insists that all of that is true.
Can someone confirm or deny this situation?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i don't think that there is any hardware difference
it's one device
the one with global rom , i guess it has the adapter , google services (and play) and some chinese apps removed
if you see here (with google translate)
http://www.mi.com/hk/redmi3s/specs/
you see this table
4G FDD B1/3/4/5/7/8/20
4G TDD B41
3G WCDMA B 1/2/5/8
2G GSM
B 2/3/5/8
kodorevi8ulis said:
if you see here (with google translate)
http://www.mi.com/hk/redmi3s/specs/
you see this table
4G FDD B1/3/4/5/7/8/20
4G TDD B41
3G WCDMA B 1/2/5/8
2G GSM
B 2/3/5/8
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
but here you can find another information
4G FDD-LTE B3/B5 TDD-LTE B40
3G WCDMA 900MHz / 2100MHz
2G GSM 900MHz / 1800MHz
you think the software limits the LTE bands?
zBear said:
but here you can find another information
4G FDD-LTE B3/B5 TDD-LTE B40
3G WCDMA 900MHz / 2100MHz
2G GSM 900MHz / 1800MHz
you think the software limits the LTE bands?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well the only think that i am sure is that as an european is difficult to find the "india" version
(because i know -and can buy from - only chinese stores)
also 2 band for lte is weird so i guess it's just a rom limitation or just incomplete list of specs (because it doesn't matter for India the other bands)
p.s. i don't see roms only for india , i only see china and global roms
Their hardwares should be same.
Charger different
China version don't have Google Play service+bandwidth those stuffs should be different?
so... any more infos about the 800MHz FDD-LTE support ?
anyone tried to unlock the bootloader on a chinese version and flashing a xiaomi.eu multilang rom to see if B20/800 is available ?
This is of great interest to me too. I want to buy two Redmi 3s's, but need B20 as well. If it's as easy as flashing the global/international ROM, it would save me lots of $$. Has anyone tried this and succeeded using B20 on a Chinese 3s?
I bought the international version of Redmi 3s, and the B20/800 is working! Also arrived with official global ROM
Aleks93ts said:
I bought the international version of Redmi 3s, and the B20/800 is working! Also arrived with official global ROM
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
of course it works, that's the point of the international version
No it's impossible to enable. The only way is to buy the int. version
If anyone is still interested, I found 3 models of R3S
1. 2016030
Chinese version . Chinese factory ROM, manuals, box and plug.
Most common version on aliexpress.
2016030 frequencies
GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM1900
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 1900 (B2), UMTS 850 (B5), UMTS 900 (B8)
TD-SCDMA TD-SCDMA 2000 (B34), TD-SCDMA 1900 (B39)
FDD-LTE 2100 (B1), FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 2600 (B7)
TD-LTE 2600 (B38), TD-LTE 1900 (B39), TD-LTE 2300 (B40), TD-LTE 2500 (B41)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
2. 2016031
International version with factory global ROM, english manual, box and EU plug
2016031 frequencies
GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 1900 (B2), UMTS 850 (B5), UMTS 900 (B8)
FDD-LTE 2100 (B1), FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 1700/2100 (B4), FDD-LTE 850 (B5), FDD-LTE 2600 (B7), FDD-LTE 900 (B8), FDD-LTE 800 (B20)
TD-LTE 2500 (B41)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
3. 2016032
Indian version.
2016032 frequencies
GSM 900, GSM 1800
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 900 (B8)
FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 850 (B5)
TD-LTE 2300 (B40)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi
Thanks for the listing of the models.
How do I know which model I have?
Model 2016030: Critical bands missing: FDD-LTE 900 (B8), FDD-LTE 800 (B20)
Model 2016031: No missing bands
Model 2016032: Critical bands missing: UMTS 850 (B5), LTE 900 (B8), 800 (B20)
Redmi 3S Gold
Android 6.0.1 MMB29M
MIUI Global 8.1.1.0
RAM 3GB
MEM 32 GB
Baseband ENNS_PACK-1.69259.1.69863.2-V036
Kernel 3.18.20-ge45c102
Rrrr said:
How do I know which model I have?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. There's should not be and hardware differences until it comes to Mobile Broadband frequencies, but i think this is software dependent. As you flash Global or Chinese you choose frequencies probably. I use Global Stable with Root and some tools and it's just fine.
JakeCherry97 said:
As you flash Global or Chinese you choose frequencies probably
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no, it's not working this way
I've seen some development attempts regarding enabling missing channels, but with no success
zBear said:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you!
So I have 2016031. If the information I provided above is correct, that means I have all necessary bands for Europe.
The problem is I found different information here:
============
Xiaomi: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/redmi-3s-with-lte-b20-800mhz.33957/
2016030 is 32gb version
2016031 is 16gb version
Both without b20
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...i-3s-4g-redmi-3s-dual-sim-td-lte-32gb-2016030
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...i-3s-4g-redmi-3s-dual-sim-td-lte-16gb-2016031
============
2016031 is 16gb version THIS IS STRANGE RIGHT, I HAVE 32GB VERSION and it is model 2016031
What is correct?
I have model 2016031 with 32Gb - do I have LTE B20 (800) and LTE B8 (900) or not?
I hope someone knows?
Rrrr said:
I have model 2016031 with 32Gb - do I have LTE B20 (800) and LTE B8 (900) or not?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you do.
I have the same model and ROM capacity.
Look at my october post, you can find there links to official Xiaomi pages with the band availability information.
There is no information about model numbers there, but it was confirmed by many users.
Thank you for your help!
I see indeed all the bands under specifications.
I am very happy.

Project to buy an unlocked Z Force for France

Hi !
I am on free mobile French Operator, I read this:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...QTjD/motorola-moto-z-force-td-lte/free-france
It seems that it would worked with free mobile.
I found this:
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Motorola-Mot...hash=item3f772e5650:m:moWTsoHkQzRtFhjmd3HjpXg
What will be the probably annoyances after buy this phone for France? Update problems? Software problems? Sim card problem ? Any?
Thank in advance for replies and advice
edit:
link for free mobile compatibily
I bought one for me in Canada and everything works fine even if your website tell that it ain't supposed to
Good luck for yours
bob_the_vampire said:
I bought one for me in Canada and everything works fine even if your website tell that it ain't supposed to
Good luck for yours
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your reply, I suppose and I hope it will work for me too..
Do you receive OTA updates normally?
Yes, even after a month of test I didn't find anything causing problem
The only thing I had to change is the SMS/MMS app because the stock one don't work on standard MMS network
Very good news ! I use mood for sms/mms so not a problem for me.. I will probably buy this phone in few days.
Thank you again for your quick replies ?
Im in Uk and all works fine. No problems at all and dont need to change mms/sms app. Only one thing Im missing is wifi call. I cant enable it because option is not available in menu with UK sim.
Sent from my XT1650 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Thanks for the reply
I receive mine soon
Canada as mentionned works fine... The only issue I see with France is LTE bands. Are yours supported? Check the LTE bands with your operator and what the Z-Force supports, otherwise you might be stuck with 3G only (Which has all bands)
karendar said:
Canada as mentionned works fine... The only issue I see with France is LTE bands. Are yours supported? Check the LTE bands with your operator and what the Z-Force supports, otherwise you might be stuck with 3G only (Which has all bands)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My operator supports lte 2600 and soon 700 MHz (2018), I have read that all bands was supported by the "unlocked" verizon phone, am I wrong?
What I saw, unlocked=global?
Technology: GSM / CDMA / HSPA / EVDO / LTE
2G bands: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM model only)
CDMA 800 / 1900 - USA
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - USA
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - USA
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - Global
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 13(700) - USA
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 17(700), 19(800), 20(800), 25(1900), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Global
Speed HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE-A (3CA) Cat9 450/50 Mbps, EV-DO Rev.A 3.1 Mbps - USA
HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE-A (2CA) Cat6 300/50 Mbps - Global
fabjazz said:
My operator supports lte 2600 and soon 700 MHz (2018), I have read that all bands was supported by the "unlocked" verizon phone, am I wrong?
What I saw, unlocked=global?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Z-Force droid is a verizon branded and exclusive phone... Was never released anywhere else from what I was told, so you'll have USA bands. You're supported for LTE, as B7 (2600) and B13 (700) tough. The Global version of the Moto Z (Non-Droid) would have global bands.
Verizon screwed people and moto over badly by making this phone an exclusive. Moto Z Force should have been the flagship Moto, not the Moto Z or the Z play...
Reference post from Lenovo forums: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z-Force/Moto-Z-Force-global-release/td-p/3430067
karendar said:
Z-Force droid is a verizon branded and exclusive phone... Was never released anywhere else from what I was told, so you'll have USA bands. You're supported for LTE, as B7 (2600) and B13 (700) is supported. The Global version of the Moto Z (Non-Droid) would have global bands.
Verizon screwed people and moto over badly by making this phone an exclusive. Moto Z Force should have been the flagship Moto, not the Moto Z or the Z play...
Reference post from Lenovo forums: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z-Force/Moto-Z-Force-global-release/td-p/3430067
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So I am glad to hear that the French operator "free mobile" is totally compatible with unlocked verizon USA bands, and it will good to know it for future smartphone bought in USA, because it's a good deal (at least 100€ off with Europe, z force at the price of z play...) to buy flagship in USA
Just so you know, if you want to get a replacement shattershield, you'll have to order it from Moto and have to have a US shipping address... I can't get one shipped to Canada, sadly.
karendar said:
Just so you know, if you want to get a replacement shattershield, you'll have to order it from Moto and have to have a US shipping address... I can't get one shipped to Canada, sadly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Somebody in moto z forum has given a good way with a web site: :good:
https://www.shipito.com/fr/?countrycode=CA
fabjazz said:
Somebody in moto z forum has given a good way with a web site: :good:
https://www.shipito.com/fr/?countrycode=CA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I know shipito, I've supplied it to a few people in the forums Only issue is it becomes expensive for a 30$ screen replacement. I have friends in the US who can forward the package to me... So that'll be sufficient I think! Thanks though
karendar said:
Yeah, I know shipito, I've supplied it to a few people in the forums Only issue is it becomes expensive for a 30$ screen replacement. I have friends in the US who can forward the package to me... So that'll be sufficient I think! Thanks though
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
too late for me, I discovered that after bought the phone and accessories , it will be good for next time....
After reading some forum in France, there are a lot of Bxx with 700Mhz support in the world.
For France, LTE/4G is B3, B7, B20 and B28 so it will miss 700Mhz and 800Mhz with a verizon phone.
carriers support LTE/4G, B28 begin in 2018:
Bouygues Telecom: B3 B7 B20
Orange: B7 B20
Free mobile: B7 B3
SFR: B7 B20
For the rest 2G and 3G(+) are fully compatible.
B1 - 2100Mhz
B2 - (1900 PCS)
B3 - (1800 + )
B4 - (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 - 850Mhz
B6 - ???
B7 - 2600 Mhz
B8 - 900 Mhz
B9 - 1800 Mhz
B11 - 1500 Lower
B12 700 ac
B13 - 700 c
B17 - 700 bc
B18 - (800 Lower)
B19 - (800 Upper)
B20 - (800 DD)
B21 - (1500 Upper)
B25 - (1900 +)
B26 - (850 +)
B28 - 700 APT
B30 - 2300 WCS
B38 (TD 2600)
B39 - TD 1900+
B40 - TD 2300
B41 - TD 2500

Categories

Resources