I have a question about hardware difference between Xiaomi Redmi 3S China version and the Global one.
I thought that the only difference is the EU-plug, but I noticed this item on aliexpress with LTE B20 (800MHz) support.
I asked the seller about it and the seller insists that all of that is true.
Can someone confirm or deny this situation?
zBear said:
I have a question about hardware difference between Xiaomi Redmi 3S China version and the Global one.
I thought that the only difference is the EU-plug, but I noticed this item on aliexpress with LTE B20 (800MHz) support.
I asked the seller about it and the seller insists that all of that is true.
Can someone confirm or deny this situation?
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i don't think that there is any hardware difference
it's one device
the one with global rom , i guess it has the adapter , google services (and play) and some chinese apps removed
if you see here (with google translate)
http://www.mi.com/hk/redmi3s/specs/
you see this table
4G FDD B1/3/4/5/7/8/20
4G TDD B41
3G WCDMA B 1/2/5/8
2G GSM
B 2/3/5/8
kodorevi8ulis said:
if you see here (with google translate)
http://www.mi.com/hk/redmi3s/specs/
you see this table
4G FDD B1/3/4/5/7/8/20
4G TDD B41
3G WCDMA B 1/2/5/8
2G GSM
B 2/3/5/8
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but here you can find another information
4G FDD-LTE B3/B5 TDD-LTE B40
3G WCDMA 900MHz / 2100MHz
2G GSM 900MHz / 1800MHz
you think the software limits the LTE bands?
zBear said:
but here you can find another information
4G FDD-LTE B3/B5 TDD-LTE B40
3G WCDMA 900MHz / 2100MHz
2G GSM 900MHz / 1800MHz
you think the software limits the LTE bands?
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well the only think that i am sure is that as an european is difficult to find the "india" version
(because i know -and can buy from - only chinese stores)
also 2 band for lte is weird so i guess it's just a rom limitation or just incomplete list of specs (because it doesn't matter for India the other bands)
p.s. i don't see roms only for india , i only see china and global roms
Their hardwares should be same.
Charger different
China version don't have Google Play service+bandwidth those stuffs should be different?
so... any more infos about the 800MHz FDD-LTE support ?
anyone tried to unlock the bootloader on a chinese version and flashing a xiaomi.eu multilang rom to see if B20/800 is available ?
This is of great interest to me too. I want to buy two Redmi 3s's, but need B20 as well. If it's as easy as flashing the global/international ROM, it would save me lots of $$. Has anyone tried this and succeeded using B20 on a Chinese 3s?
I bought the international version of Redmi 3s, and the B20/800 is working! Also arrived with official global ROM
Aleks93ts said:
I bought the international version of Redmi 3s, and the B20/800 is working! Also arrived with official global ROM
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of course it works, that's the point of the international version
No it's impossible to enable. The only way is to buy the int. version
If anyone is still interested, I found 3 models of R3S
1. 2016030
Chinese version . Chinese factory ROM, manuals, box and plug.
Most common version on aliexpress.
2016030 frequencies
GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM1900
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 1900 (B2), UMTS 850 (B5), UMTS 900 (B8)
TD-SCDMA TD-SCDMA 2000 (B34), TD-SCDMA 1900 (B39)
FDD-LTE 2100 (B1), FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 2600 (B7)
TD-LTE 2600 (B38), TD-LTE 1900 (B39), TD-LTE 2300 (B40), TD-LTE 2500 (B41)
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2. 2016031
International version with factory global ROM, english manual, box and EU plug
2016031 frequencies
GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 1900 (B2), UMTS 850 (B5), UMTS 900 (B8)
FDD-LTE 2100 (B1), FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 1700/2100 (B4), FDD-LTE 850 (B5), FDD-LTE 2600 (B7), FDD-LTE 900 (B8), FDD-LTE 800 (B20)
TD-LTE 2500 (B41)
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3. 2016032
Indian version.
2016032 frequencies
GSM 900, GSM 1800
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 900 (B8)
FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 850 (B5)
TD-LTE 2300 (B40)
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Hi
Thanks for the listing of the models.
How do I know which model I have?
Model 2016030: Critical bands missing: FDD-LTE 900 (B8), FDD-LTE 800 (B20)
Model 2016031: No missing bands
Model 2016032: Critical bands missing: UMTS 850 (B5), LTE 900 (B8), 800 (B20)
Redmi 3S Gold
Android 6.0.1 MMB29M
MIUI Global 8.1.1.0
RAM 3GB
MEM 32 GB
Baseband ENNS_PACK-1.69259.1.69863.2-V036
Kernel 3.18.20-ge45c102
Rrrr said:
How do I know which model I have?
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No. There's should not be and hardware differences until it comes to Mobile Broadband frequencies, but i think this is software dependent. As you flash Global or Chinese you choose frequencies probably. I use Global Stable with Root and some tools and it's just fine.
JakeCherry97 said:
As you flash Global or Chinese you choose frequencies probably
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no, it's not working this way
I've seen some development attempts regarding enabling missing channels, but with no success
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Thank you!
So I have 2016031. If the information I provided above is correct, that means I have all necessary bands for Europe.
The problem is I found different information here:
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Xiaomi: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/redmi-3s-with-lte-b20-800mhz.33957/
2016030 is 32gb version
2016031 is 16gb version
Both without b20
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...i-3s-4g-redmi-3s-dual-sim-td-lte-32gb-2016030
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...i-3s-4g-redmi-3s-dual-sim-td-lte-16gb-2016031
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2016031 is 16gb version THIS IS STRANGE RIGHT, I HAVE 32GB VERSION and it is model 2016031
What is correct?
I have model 2016031 with 32Gb - do I have LTE B20 (800) and LTE B8 (900) or not?
I hope someone knows?
Rrrr said:
I have model 2016031 with 32Gb - do I have LTE B20 (800) and LTE B8 (900) or not?
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Yes, you do.
I have the same model and ROM capacity.
Look at my october post, you can find there links to official Xiaomi pages with the band availability information.
There is no information about model numbers there, but it was confirmed by many users.
Thank you for your help!
I see indeed all the bands under specifications.
I am very happy.
Related
I hope the following information is applicable for all countries....
India's mobile frequencies & bands are
2G : GSM 900 MHz, GSM 1800 MHz
3G : WCDMA/HSPA/UMTS 2100 MHz ---- which are equivalent to BAND 1
4G : TD-LTE 2300 MHz ---- which are equivalent to BAND 40
As you all know only Airtel is providing 4G in india in TD-LTE 2300 MHz.
Two types of LTE -- FDD LTE , TDD LTE (NEW China Standard mainly)
TD-LTE -- Time-division Long-Term Evolution
LTE TDD -- LTE Time-Division Duplex
TDD LTE -- Time-Division Duplex LTE
All above 3 are same I guess...
And the main stream LTE is called FDD-LTE - Frequency-Division Duplex LTE
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OPO International Bands are ----
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2G: GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
3G: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
-- Which are equivalent to --- 2100 /1900 / 1700 / 850 / 900 MHz ( Frequencies)
4G: LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
-- Which are equivalent to --- FDD 2100/ FDD 1800/ FDD 1700/ FDD 2600 / FDD 700 b c / TDD 2600 / TDD 2300
OPO Chinese Bands are ----
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2G: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
3G: WCDMA: 2100 / 1900 / 850 / 900 MHz
TD-SCDMA：1880-1920/2010-2025MHz
-- Which are equivalent to --- 1/2/5/8/39/34
4G: FDD-LTE :2100/1800/2600 MHz
TD-LTE：1880-1920/2300-2400/2570-2620MHz
-- Which are equivalent to --- 1/3/7/39/40/38
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So for India Both versions should work with all available telecom providers.
Let me know your thoughts guys...
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No 4G on OPO in India
I thought of buying one, but seeing that it uses FDD LTE instead of TD, 4G will not work on this device in India.
WIND Mobile in Canada uses AWS Bands 1700/2100 in Canada. This phone is compatible with 4G 2100 as it shows, but not 1700. Do you think I will have 4G connectivity? Or 3G?
I bought one one from Lenteen and the 4G works perfectly in France with SFR
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
djfoo000 said:
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
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I would also love to know this thanks
djfoo000 said:
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
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I've flashed Chinese OnePlus ONE with CM 11S and am still missing the AWS bands (Wind, Mobilicity, T-Mobile USA)
flaming homer said:
I've flashed Chinese OnePlus ONE with CM 11S and am still missing the AWS bands (Wind, Mobilicity, T-Mobile USA)
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I asume you flashed it with fastboot and not with recovery right?
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wacky.ddw said:
I asume you flashed it with fastboot and not with recovery right?
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Well, yes and no. I brought back 3 Chinese OPO from Beijing, and flashed the first via fastboot while transiting in Tokyo - that one would NOT work in any of the Japanese carriers (using two different SIM - Fido from Canada and TuneTalk from Malaysia) while Samsung Galaxy S3 worked fine. The second one I flashed once back in Canada via the standard recovery method as described by GizChina, and that one does not work on AWS band when tested with Wind Mobile SIM while Fido & Speakout SIMs worked awesome
Given my Japanese experience I'm not inclined to think the fastboot flash is any better than standard recovery flash
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Well, yes and no. I brought back 3 Chinese OPO from Beijing, and flashed the first via fastboot while transiting in Tokyo - that one would NOT work in any of the Japanese carriers (using two different SIM - Fido from Canada and TuneTalk from Malaysia) while Samsung Galaxy S3 worked fine. The second one I flashed once back in Canada via the standard recovery method as described by GizChina, and that one does not work on AWS band when tested with Wind Mobile SIM while Fido & Speakout SIMs worked awesome
Given my Japanese experience I'm not inclined to think the fastboot flash is any better than standard recovery flash
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Hey, u said your fido sim work awesome. does it give u 3g or LTE network?
wataru said:
Hey, u said your fido sim work awesome. does it give u 3g or LTE network?
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Giving me 3G/H+, someone else said I may need a SIM upgrade - will try later
LTE on AT&T USA
djfoo000 said:
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
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Has anyone using the OPO on ATT and have no problems with 4G LTE?
I heard some people got it to work but then when it looses LTE connection it doesnt drop to 3G so the connection is lost or the call is dropped.
Please let me know if anyone has this situation happening.
Thanks!
i have chinese oneplus one and i havent use 4g in Turkiye
It also supports B2, B4, and B17 LTE
LG G4 (GSM)
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/fcc_query.php?gc=ZNF&pc=H815
Really good feature and hope it appreciate people a lot.
How will International Version work on T-Mobile US?
I referred to - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
LTE:
B2 - 1900 MHz - YES
B4 1700/2100 MHz AWS - YES
B17 No
Wifi calling and VoLTE will not work? HD Voice won't work either?
Model LG H815? Should be ok for ATT LTE, it seems
hmm...
starfcker69 said:
How will International Version work on T-Mobile US?
I referred to - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US
LTE:
B2 - 1900 MHz - YES
B4 1700/2100 MHz AWS - YES
B17 No
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So how will this version work on T-Mobile US?
I have less need to T-Mobile wi-fi calling or HD Voice.
Per site http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_nexus_6p-7588.php. I was looking at the supported bands for the nexus 6p. It's said there is an American and Global verison. Is this true ? If so, is the google play store selling the american version? The american version is selling the one that has 1700 band. Which only t-mobile uses
I presume if you order the phone from US store you will get the US version... I live in Canada and ordered the phone from US to get the free $50 Google Play card.
I believe so. Also the USA version actually has way more LTE bands than the International version AFAIK
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I believe so. Also the USA version actually has way more LTE bands than the International version AFAIK
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Try to repeat that again in your head.
And think "Why would the NA version have more bands than the Int. version?".
So no, the Int. version has waaaay more bands than the NA version.
Lafenear said:
Try to repeat that again in your head.
And think "Why would the NA version have more bands than the Int. version?".
So no, the Int. version has waaaay more bands than the NA version.
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Model XT1103 (Americas): CDMA band class: 0/1/10
WCDMA bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE bands: 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/41 (12 LTE BANDS TOTAL)
CA DL bands: B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-29, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29
Model XT1100 (International):
WCDMA bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19
LTE bands: 1/3/5/7/8/9/19/20/28/41 (10 LTE BANDS TOTAL)
CA DL bands: B3-B5, B3-B8
the USA Version... also supports some LTE bands unique to the US (Sprint & Verizon, mostly).
the USA Version also supports CDMA radios specific to the U.S.
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all models
CDMA 800 / 1900 - all models
3G bands HSDPA 800 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 - Global model
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - American model
4G bands
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 9(1800), 17(700), 19(800), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Global model
LTE band 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 25(1900), 26(850), 29(700), 30(2300), 41(2500) - American model
I believe it doesnt matter.
I live in Israel, I have ordered from the US Store.
We have the 850/2100 3G bands
and bands 3,7 for 4G
Hi. Does anyone know if the American version works with Vodafone UK 4g? I had 4g reception only at a Vodafone store (they've got a signal boost), nowhere else can't get 4g...
This may sound dumb but, can I somehow make the 6P American model to work on band 38(2600) INTL?
iuli02 said:
This may sound dumb but, can I somehow make the 6P American model to work on band 38(2600) INTL?
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No. If the hardware doesn't support a specific band, then there's no way to make it work.
there are no difference, just use US version if you're in US. If you're outside, any version will be OK.
I used my US Nexus 6P while in Dubai and I had LTE. I think you should just get the US Version if you live in the US especially if you want to use Project Fi so that the phone can connect to the sprint and T-Mobile networks properly.
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olegfusion said:
there are no difference, just use US version if you're in US. If you're outside, any version will be OK.
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How about the other way around? I have the possibility to get an US version while visiting the States, but then I'll be back in Europe and the US version doesn't have the 20LTE band, which is the most common in EU. I'm worried it'll have an impact in the LTE reception and speed. Anyone uses an US version in Eu? How is it? I see there was another person in the UK asking the same bit got no definitive answer. Thanks,
Blah...... Go with the version that fits your carrier, common sense
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Model XT1103 (Americas): CDMA band class: 0/1/10
WCDMA bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE bands: 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/41 (12 LTE BANDS TOTAL)
CA DL bands: B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-29, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29
Model XT1100 (International):
WCDMA bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19
LTE bands: 1/3/5/7/8/9/19/20/28/41 (10 LTE BANDS TOTAL)
CA DL bands: B3-B5, B3-B8
the USA Version... also supports some LTE bands unique to the US (Sprint & Verizon, mostly).
the USA Version also supports CDMA radios specific to the U.S.
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Where are you getting these model numbers? The model number that comes on the 6P box is H1511 for North America & H1512 for International.
So, this device looks pretty sweet. And it might be a good upgrade from my Note 4. The only question I have is, will it get LTE on T-Mobile?
Since this whole sub-forum is dead, I guess I'll have to wait until some people get their hands on it over here.
I am also wondering the same thing but C9000 doesn't support any of the TMO LTE Bands. Need to wait for Samsung to release the C900F in the future
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In Germany are available these networks:
Code:
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I use it in UK on EE network and i get 4g with it. no issues so far
I'm in the Netherlands, and I'm waiting for the C900F to come out. Anyone know when is gonna come out?
SM-C900F/DS arrived allready >>> http://www.samsung.com/in/microsite/galaxy-c9-pro/
criszz said:
SM-C900F/DS arrived allready >>> http://www.samsung.com/in/microsite/galaxy-c9-pro/
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Thanx. But still not in Europe It's expensive in India, plus those units have region lock. Anyone know where I can order one without region lock?
Singapore phone are all unlock but not sure of export set. C9 cost ard $600 for export set.
orbital_71 said:
Singapore phone are all unlock but not sure of export set. C9 cost ard $600 for export set.
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Thanx. Any good website you can recommend?
I have the Asian version which was bought in Hong Kong.
I can confirm it doesn't work with O2 and partly with 3 (Three)
When i say partly with 3 (Three) is because it will pick up LTE on the 1800 MHz where available and not the 800MHz
Whereas o2 is completely on the 800MHz range and therefore unhelpful.
4g.co.uk/4g-frequencies-uk-need-know
according to the above link, you can get LTE on frequencies 1800MHz and 2600MHz depending what mobile provider you are with and the availability in your area.
Bottomline, 800MHz/Band 20 isnt supported on the C9 PRO.
My question is are the supported Bands software or hardware enabled??
If it possible to unlock the 800MHz via software??
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Bottomline, 800MHz/Band 20 isnt supported on the C9 PRO.
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SM-C900F should support 800MHz/B20.
This is what I found to compare.
T-Mobile uses these bands:
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5)
UMTS1700/2100 (B4), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
LTE850 (B5), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE2600 (B7), LTE1800 (B3), LTE1900 (B2), LTE700 (B12)
The Galaxy C9 is compatible with these bands:
2G bands: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900,
3G bands: HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100,
4G bands: LTE2100 (B1), TD-SCDMA2000, TD-SCDMA1900, LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE900 (B8), TD-LTE2500 (B41), TD-LTE2600 (B38), TD-LTE2300 (B40), TD-LTE1900 (B39).
The important numbers to look at are T-Mobile using 850/900/1800/1900 and the C9 getting 850/900/1800/1900/2100. That covers what we need for what T-Mobile calls 3G. Note: What T-Mobile calls G3 is called G4 by other companies. Thus what they call 4G is 4G LTE only. So by these numbers, T-Mobile actually gets 4G. IF I understood correctly what I read
As for 4G LTE T-Mobile uses B1/B2/B3/B4/B5 and B12.
Of the T-Mobile bands, the C9 is compatible with only B1 and B3 as well as a bunch of irrelevant ones. This means that if you are in an area where T-Mobile is using B1 or B3, you are in luck and will get 4G LTE. If not, you will have to be happy with 4G.
However, I came here trying to find out how to set it up and which of three slots to put my T-Moblile SIMM card into, so this didn't help me at all.
I hope it helped you!!
RemoWilliams said:
SM-C900F should support 800MHz/B20.
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Ugh, I finally received the C9 Pro C900F/DS for my wife (got it from Malaysia), and turns out I was mistaken after all: It does NOT have Band 20 (I used 'LTE Discovery' app to check). I was under the assumption that Samsung's "F" models are the global variants, and always have Band 20. I guess I was wrong.
anyone using the C9 pro in Canada? is it compatible with any service provider's LTE?
Mine was able to use the 3G HSPA + before I update to 7.1.1. After official update, I only can use EDGE. I need help!!!! How do I know is my hardware problem or the software problem??
Hi !
I am on free mobile French Operator, I read this:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...QTjD/motorola-moto-z-force-td-lte/free-france
It seems that it would worked with free mobile.
I found this:
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/Motorola-Mot...hash=item3f772e5650:m:moWTsoHkQzRtFhjmd3HjpXg
What will be the probably annoyances after buy this phone for France? Update problems? Software problems? Sim card problem ? Any?
Thank in advance for replies and advice
edit:
link for free mobile compatibily
I bought one for me in Canada and everything works fine even if your website tell that it ain't supposed to
Good luck for yours
bob_the_vampire said:
I bought one for me in Canada and everything works fine even if your website tell that it ain't supposed to
Good luck for yours
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Thanks for your reply, I suppose and I hope it will work for me too..
Do you receive OTA updates normally?
Yes, even after a month of test I didn't find anything causing problem
The only thing I had to change is the SMS/MMS app because the stock one don't work on standard MMS network
Very good news ! I use mood for sms/mms so not a problem for me.. I will probably buy this phone in few days.
Thank you again for your quick replies ?
Im in Uk and all works fine. No problems at all and dont need to change mms/sms app. Only one thing Im missing is wifi call. I cant enable it because option is not available in menu with UK sim.
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Thanks for the reply
I receive mine soon
Canada as mentionned works fine... The only issue I see with France is LTE bands. Are yours supported? Check the LTE bands with your operator and what the Z-Force supports, otherwise you might be stuck with 3G only (Which has all bands)
karendar said:
Canada as mentionned works fine... The only issue I see with France is LTE bands. Are yours supported? Check the LTE bands with your operator and what the Z-Force supports, otherwise you might be stuck with 3G only (Which has all bands)
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My operator supports lte 2600 and soon 700 MHz (2018), I have read that all bands was supported by the "unlocked" verizon phone, am I wrong?
What I saw, unlocked=global?
Technology: GSM / CDMA / HSPA / EVDO / LTE
2G bands: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM model only)
CDMA 800 / 1900 - USA
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - USA
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - USA
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - Global
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 13(700) - USA
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 17(700), 19(800), 20(800), 25(1900), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Global
Speed HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE-A (3CA) Cat9 450/50 Mbps, EV-DO Rev.A 3.1 Mbps - USA
HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE-A (2CA) Cat6 300/50 Mbps - Global
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My operator supports lte 2600 and soon 700 MHz (2018), I have read that all bands was supported by the "unlocked" verizon phone, am I wrong?
What I saw, unlocked=global?
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Z-Force droid is a verizon branded and exclusive phone... Was never released anywhere else from what I was told, so you'll have USA bands. You're supported for LTE, as B7 (2600) and B13 (700) tough. The Global version of the Moto Z (Non-Droid) would have global bands.
Verizon screwed people and moto over badly by making this phone an exclusive. Moto Z Force should have been the flagship Moto, not the Moto Z or the Z play...
Reference post from Lenovo forums: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z-Force/Moto-Z-Force-global-release/td-p/3430067
karendar said:
Z-Force droid is a verizon branded and exclusive phone... Was never released anywhere else from what I was told, so you'll have USA bands. You're supported for LTE, as B7 (2600) and B13 (700) is supported. The Global version of the Moto Z (Non-Droid) would have global bands.
Verizon screwed people and moto over badly by making this phone an exclusive. Moto Z Force should have been the flagship Moto, not the Moto Z or the Z play...
Reference post from Lenovo forums: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-Z-Force/Moto-Z-Force-global-release/td-p/3430067
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So I am glad to hear that the French operator "free mobile" is totally compatible with unlocked verizon USA bands, and it will good to know it for future smartphone bought in USA, because it's a good deal (at least 100€ off with Europe, z force at the price of z play...) to buy flagship in USA
Just so you know, if you want to get a replacement shattershield, you'll have to order it from Moto and have to have a US shipping address... I can't get one shipped to Canada, sadly.
karendar said:
Just so you know, if you want to get a replacement shattershield, you'll have to order it from Moto and have to have a US shipping address... I can't get one shipped to Canada, sadly.
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Somebody in moto z forum has given a good way with a web site: :good:
https://www.shipito.com/fr/?countrycode=CA
fabjazz said:
Somebody in moto z forum has given a good way with a web site: :good:
https://www.shipito.com/fr/?countrycode=CA
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Yeah, I know shipito, I've supplied it to a few people in the forums Only issue is it becomes expensive for a 30$ screen replacement. I have friends in the US who can forward the package to me... So that'll be sufficient I think! Thanks though
karendar said:
Yeah, I know shipito, I've supplied it to a few people in the forums Only issue is it becomes expensive for a 30$ screen replacement. I have friends in the US who can forward the package to me... So that'll be sufficient I think! Thanks though
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too late for me, I discovered that after bought the phone and accessories , it will be good for next time....
After reading some forum in France, there are a lot of Bxx with 700Mhz support in the world.
For France, LTE/4G is B3, B7, B20 and B28 so it will miss 700Mhz and 800Mhz with a verizon phone.
carriers support LTE/4G, B28 begin in 2018:
Bouygues Telecom: B3 B7 B20
Orange: B7 B20
Free mobile: B7 B3
SFR: B7 B20
For the rest 2G and 3G(+) are fully compatible.
B1 - 2100Mhz
B2 - (1900 PCS)
B3 - (1800 + )
B4 - (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 - 850Mhz
B6 - ???
B7 - 2600 Mhz
B8 - 900 Mhz
B9 - 1800 Mhz
B11 - 1500 Lower
B12 700 ac
B13 - 700 c
B17 - 700 bc
B18 - (800 Lower)
B19 - (800 Upper)
B20 - (800 DD)
B21 - (1500 Upper)
B25 - (1900 +)
B26 - (850 +)
B28 - 700 APT
B30 - 2300 WCS
B38 (TD 2600)
B39 - TD 1900+
B40 - TD 2300
B41 - TD 2500