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Q/Samsung Galaxy Note 3//Replace Camera Sensor w/ S6, Note 4 or LG G4's Sensor + OIS

Hi, everyone.
The Note 3's camera is fine, everybody knows.
Even the Note 2's Camera is still OK for today.
Before reading my question (which is already mentioned in title),
Please don't blame me for that question.
There are so many people in the world, so maybe one of them asks for a Guide, which might is senseless for you, so don't blame me for that.
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You know, i like the Galaxy Note 3, because it's one of the three Jelly Bean Flagship-Smartphones in the World with 4K-Video and Smooth Motion Recording and still suitable for today.
Galaxy Note 3 (Jelly Bean+TouchWiz UI)
Oppo Find 7 (HD Image; 1440p Screen; Ultra-Fast Charging)
Oppo Find 7a (No KitKat-Upgrade)
Why i don't like the newer Android-Versions:
Android KitKat: Very Bogus (Data-Loss Bug, deletion of app data at app uninstallation or deinstallation. Many Software Bugs + restriction etc. )
Android Lollipop: Ugly User Interface - and you can't set the UI Back.
I'm very satisfied with the Note 3's Camera, but i think, that every phone needs an OIS today, for Compensation of the bad low-light performance. Especially those 20.7 Megapixel Phones like HTC One M9.
The Note 3's low-light performance is bad because:
Small Pixels (not as small as Xperia Z) on Camera Sensor
No Optical Image Stabilisation
Three Phones with Brilliant Cameras are:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (It's a Note Smartphone)
Samsung Galaxy S6 (High Colour Quality)
LG G4 (my favourite Phone Camera) (Best Dynamic Range+Focus Speed)
So is there a way, to replace the Note 3's Camera Sensor with the Sensor of one of those 3 Phones? (Preferred: LG G4)
You can't build Laser-AF into the Note 3 so easily, but i just like to get the Sensor and the OIS into it, to make the Low-Light Performance better.
Camera-app:
I'd like to keep the Native Camera-App UI from the Galaxy Note 3 (as known from the S4-Models), but i'd like to have:
16 Megapixels in Resolution chooser
1440p Video Recording (FHD, Smooth Motion and 4K is already there)
If Possible: Real-Time Slow Motion (HFR)-Video Recording.

Hannah Stern said:
Hi, everyone.
The Note 3's camera is fine, everybody knows.
Even the Note 2's Camera is still OK for today.
You know, i like the Galaxy Note 3, because it's one of the three Jelly Bean Flagship-Smartphones in the World with 4K-Video and Smooth Motion Recording and still suitable for today.
Galaxy Note 3 (Jelly Bean+TouchWiz UI)
Oppo Find 7 (HD Image; 1440p Screen; Ultra-Fast Charging)
Oppo Find 7a (No KitKat-Upgrade)
Why i don't like the newer Android-Versions:
Android KitKat: Very Bogus (Data-Loss Bug, deletion of app data at app uninstallation or deinstallation. Many Software Bugs + restriction etc. )
Android Lollipop: Ugly User Interface - and you can't set the UI Back.
I'm very satisfied with the Note 3's Camera, but i think, that every phone needs an OIS today, for Compensation of the bad low-light performance. Especially those 20.7 Megapixel Phones like HTC One M9.
The Note 3's low-light performance is bad because:
Small Pixels (not as small as Xperia Z) on Camera Sensor
No Optical Image Stabilisation
Three Phones with Brilliant Cameras are:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (It's a Note Smartphone)
Samsung Galaxy S6 (High Colour Quality)
LG G4 (my favourite Phone Camera) (Best Dynamic Range+Focus Speed)
So is there a way, to replace the Note 3's Camera Sensor with the Sensor of one of those 3 Phones? (Preferred: LG G4)
You can't build Laser-AF into the Note 3 so easily, but i just like to get the Sensor and the OIS into it, to make the Low-Light Performance better.
Camera-app:
I'd like to keep the Native Camera-App UI from the Galaxy Note 3 (as known from the S4-Models), but i'd like to have:
16 Megapixels in Resolution chooser
1440p Video Recording (FHD, Smooth Motion and 4K is already there)
If Possible: Real-Time Slow Motion (HFR)-Video Recording.
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Old post so you may never see this but did you ever get an answer to your question?

Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 - Real PDAF ? What is the camera sensor used ?

Hi,
I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime, recently, there was a review of this smartphone at DPReview, mainly due to the camera being 13Mpx with Phase Detection Auto Focus, on such a cheap smartphone.
And I was wondering, how can I identify the Camera Sensors on this phone?
There has been a teardown of the phone, and below is the picture of the sensors found:
myfixguide dot com/manual/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-2-Teardown-16.jpg
The thing is, this references don't lead to anywhere... I've searched the net for them and found nothing... On Xiaomi's publicity, sometimes the sensor is publicized as being from Samsung or OV (Omnivision), this is never good, as we never know really what is the sensor we have on our phone...
And I've seen my share of Chinese Smartphone manufacturers that say they put sensors from Sony, and then it's Omnivision or Samsung (if your lucky), or else it's "Sunny" or some other small time chinese sensor brand...
What called my attention was, that for a smartphone so "cheap" (base model costs aprox. $125 in China), they put a 13Mpx PDAF sensor on it...
But I'm not sure both Omnivision and Samsung produce sensors with the same specs, also, from the picture below, it looks like the sensor might in fact be from "O-Film", another relatively lesser known sensor brand (check: o-film dot com)
Both sensors seem to have similar codes:
OMI BA 08
OMI 5F 05
So it looks like they might be sourced from the same manufacturer, but looking at the references, I'm afraid if they aren't really a 8Mpx sensor, interpolated to 13Mpx... Because of the "08" in the reference of the back sensor, while the front one has "05" which corresponds to the frontal camera spec of 5Mpx.
Can anyone help me identify the real sensor inside my phone? Thanks for the help !

Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
Edit:
the sensors are http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/products/cmos-image-sensor/mobile-cis/S5K3M2?ia=217 and http://www.ovt.com/products/sensor.php?id=150
Sent from my Redmi Note 2

sunbriel said:
Type *#*#6484#*#* into Phone, click on Software Version and scroll down. It does say OFilm under both Camera values. At least in my case.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2
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Thanks for the tip !
In my case, I have:
- Back camera: the Sunny made S5K3M2_2ND (probably a clone of the Samsung ISOCELL S5K3M2, maybe this is their 2nd version clone or try...)
- Front camera: the Ofilm OV5670 (a clone of the Omnivision OV5670 probably)
I wonder if these clone brands have as good quality as the original ones...

Been looking on Chinese forums about this topic. I myself don't really care, but it slightly caught my interest. They are saying that the sensor is Samsung's and the camera module is Ofilm's or Sunny's.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2

Same here. The picture quality at day rivals those of much more expensive phones and the phone focuses fast enough for me - so the question on whether it's original vs a clone, or whether the PDAF is a real or fake one is purely academical to me. As for how such a "cheap" phone can have such features, it's simple: the companies charge huge margins. Just look at Sony's M5, it's essentially the same phone with more megapixels (though, tbh, not really better image quality) and costs around 500€. You're paying about 300€ just for the brand and pixels.

It's not a clone. Here is one of the links where it is explained what it all means: www.miui.com/thread-2916880-1-1.html
Use Google translate, you'll understand the general meaning. Basically, it's like I wrote in my previous post.
Sent from my Redmi Note 2

I'm not saying it is a clone, I'm saying I wouldn't care even if it is.

I was responding to the OP, though.
Sent from my X98 Air II (HG9N)

I have Sunny cameras (rear & front)
Front camera shot clean pictures in good light condition.
Rear camera is a little bit noise and macros are not perfect (you must stay at least at 10 cm from the subject in order to get a good macro) but autofocus is very fast
The problem is video FPS
I noticed that it drops dramatically in low light condition, from 30 to 22 so shot video lags
And in your?

I noticed that with miui 7 we now have slow motion so somewere around 90fps. ( you have to be in hd not in full hd to get this option).

real Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE500KL camera specs

im interested in buying the asus zenfone 2 laser, the 5.0 inches display, since i can only spend around 200€, i went for a deep search on some stores on my country and some of them told that the rear camera has 8mps or 13mps, as you can see:
gsmarena:
(can't provide links) - ze500kl as 13 mp on the rear camera
(can't provide links) - ze550kl as 13 mp on the rear camera
fnac:
(can't provide links) - ze500kl (8mp rear camera)
(can't provide links) - ze550kl (13mp rear camera)
a portuguese store:
(can't provide links)- ze500kl (they said that he has a 8mp rear camera)
(can't provide links) - ze550kl (they said that the 5.5 inches display version has a 8mp rear camera )
i would like to know the real specs, and if the 13mp camera has a huge diference between the 8mp camera version and some samples.

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i have the ,8 mpx camera, quality is often far to be acceptable. Macro are always very good thanks to laser focus but in general rumor is high and quality not high as it could be (i came from galaxy s3, i may be vitiated)

let me hit this up.
I am really curious myself.
i have a laser 2 5.0 and the specs are really confusing whenever i search online.
i hope someone would enlighten us.
Please...

It's Asus that messes up with the devices naming schemes.
There are two types of ZE500KL:
- the models with 8Mpx camera and 2070mAh battery;
- the models with 13Mpx camera and 2400mAh battery.
Asus attach a second model identifier to the main model name, but it's usually omitted.
For example, my phone is ZE500KL-1A224WW and it's a 13Mpx model.
In Italy stores sell only 8Mpx models so I buy it from Spain, that seems the only European country where you can find the 13Mpx models.
For ZE550KL there is a similar situation, with some models that uses Snapdragon 410 and other Snapdragon 615, but they are all ZE550KL.
I think that big differences like these should change the main model name, to generate less confusion.

BubuXP: I have a 13Mpix and 2070 mAh battery, czech market

G5 Camera Discussion

This thread to discuss all about camera hardware and software.
From Gsmarena,
"Camera
The camera is shaping up as a major selling point for the LG G5, just like it was for the G4. Rumors checked out here and the new flagship comes with a dual shooter setup on the back. The G5 inherits all the goodies, like Laser Auto Focus, Advanced OIS and the Color Spectrum sensor from its predecessor, but now focuses its improvements in another important area - zooming. The handset is now actually capable of capturing 135-degree Ultra Wide Angle shots in addition tot he traditional 75-degree snaps.
The extra spacial awareness comes courtesy of an additional 8MP shooter on the back. It sits alongside the 16MP F/1.8 camera - identical to the one on the LG G3 back. On the software side, the phone is not only smart enough to quickly let you choose between shooters and how much you want inside the frame but can also leverage on the two snappers to produce various shot effects.
In our brief time with the LG G5 we managed to take a couple of snaps with both of its cameras.
Below you can see a sample taken with each camera. The preliminary results are promising even though the venue was rather poorly lit."
Since the LG G5 uses pretty much the same camera, on paper, as the G4, let's see how the two compares practically.
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omeryounos said:
This thread to discuss all about camera hardware and software.
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There will be nothing to discuss, until the device is released.

Why is Motorola doing this? Moto g6 plus better version of Moto X4?

According to latest leaks from certification sites the moto g6+ is supposed to feature:
1. SD 630
2. 4GB - 32 GB, 6GB - 64GB
3. 12 MP f/1.7 + 5 MP f/1.9 - rear camera
4. 16 MP f/1.9 F Front camera
5. IP67, NFC
6. 5.9" 18:9 full hd+
So why Moto X4 didn't get a wider (f1.7) aperture primary lens, although being a pricey phone?
It feels bad that a relatively cheaper g6+ would take better low light shots

hpgramani said:
According to latest leaks from certification sites the moto g6+ is supposed to feature:
1. SD 630
2. 4GB - 32 GB, 6GB - 64GB
3. 12 MP f/1.7 + 5 MP f/1.9 - rear camera
4. 16 MP f/1.9 F Front camera
5. IP67, NFC
6. 5.9" 18:9 full hd+
So why Moto X4 didn't get a wider (f1.7) aperture primary lens, although being a pricey phone?
It feels bad that a relatively cheaper g6+ would take better low light shots
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even g5+ had f1.7. and a better imx362 sensor. :laugh:

kraatus90 said:
even g5+ had f1.7. and a better imx362 sensor. :laugh:
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That's what I'm trying to know, why are lower priced g series phones have better camera?

hpgramani said:
That's what I'm trying to know, why are lower priced g series phones have better camera?
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because motorola management is really stupid. it's not just hardware, even the software side has very stupid decisions. like 1080p60 on g5+ uses 4k stream, which is really sharp and high quality compared to what their other phones use.
it's stupid, that's all i can say.

Actually aperture is just a small part in this overall picture. I have both X4 and Z2 Play (which has 1.7 aperture) and you know what ?
The pictures I like most come either from X4 with Google Camera mod, or - when we are at Z2 Play - from Hasselblad Moto Mod which has 3.5 aperture.
OIS is what does best job.

Well I think the only thing I would've liked is 6GB of RAM right out of the gate but that would've hurt the Z2 Play sales for sure.
Regarding the camera you're not taking into account one thing: the Moto X4 sensor has 1.4 micron pixels in the sensor, which cannot be said for the G5+. So the 0.3 aperture you're losing you gain it back with bigger pixels. Also we're still talking about mobile phones camera so results will ALWAYS be mediocre in low light. In low light photos from a 2018 200$ Honor/Huawei phone are almost indistinguishable from photos taken with the Galaxy S9. Luckly tech is getting better and cheaper so don't be salty about a number on a spec sheet.

big brands are always overpriced and lag behind brands like huawei and xiaomi especially.
they devise market schemes so people would replace their phones more quickly. and the same or better phoneparts are now cheaper for manufacturers than 6months ago.
the only thing i really hate about the moto x4 is no treble. meaning more bugs and less diversity in 3rd party roms.

Most of the dialogue on the thread so far is about camera differences vs. other phones. So far, so good.
I am considering g6 vs. x4 as my next daily driver, either with Project Fi or directly with T-Mobile (my current provider). From the Moto line, Fi requires either G6, x4, or AndroidOne x4.
Apart from the camera and the purchase price, what other reasons would you consider to favor g6 or x4, especially with Project Fi?
Best regards,

moto x4 has better image quality in certain aspects just look at the comparison.
https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=9001&idPhone2=8634

squanchy said:
moto x4 has better image quality in certain aspects just look at the comparison.
https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=9001&idPhone2=8634
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Yeah certainly X4 is ahead in most of the areas