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[Q] 3 Missing Camera Features - How to add them?

Hello,
First of all, i'm very satisfied with the Note 3's Camera. It's very useful and makes very good pictures and is also very fast. The shutter lag is very short in sports mode, and i also love the [email protected] and 4K-Recording. The User Interface of the camera is also designed very well, and it's got a giant amount of features. :good:
Please note, that i've got (the lastest) Android 4.3, because 4.4.2 is very bogus and Lollipop's User Interface is very ugly and lost many features.
But here are three software-features, that you can add, by installing the S6 and M9 Camera APK, but they are only supported from Android 5.0/higher.
1. Real-Time-equivalent Slow Motion / HFR
I'd like to record it like i described it right here, because the displayed playback speed in the player is equivalent to Real-Time and because Audio is recorded. This is also, how the Galaxy S6's Camera Software Application does it.
2. 1440p Video Recording
This is what i need, when i'd like to take a video, which is better than FullHD 1080p, but doesn't eat up as much space as 4K-Video. This is, what the Note 4/S6 Camera application also is capable of.
Bitrates:
FHD - 17 MBit/s
WQHD - 28 MBit/s (like [email protected])
4K-UHD and DCi-4K: 50 MBit/s (sometimes around 48)
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3. Zero Pause Lag/Delay
This is, what the HTC One M9 can do - even in 4K. The last phone i know, which can do this is the Omnia 2.
It allows you, to Rec/Pause/Rec/Pause/etc... a video, without any lag/delay.
You can hit the rec/pause button, as fast as you want, and it always reacts.
The Note 4 and S6 have got a pause delay of around two seconds.
Off-Topic:
Here's a list of small things, that are also missing on the Note 3-Camera, but are less important currently.
Hardware
Physical Shutter Button (Priority: 60 %)
OIS Camera (every Flagship Smartphone newer than Med-2014 should have OIS.) (Priority = 70 %)
Mechanical Shutter (makes Picture quality a little bit better but is not so important) Prior.= 20 %
Software
The disadvantages below are so small, that they're pretty much off-topic. I'm satisfied with the Note 3 Camera.
Selective Focus
Tap-to-shoot
AF/AE Lock
Manual Camera Settings
Color Spectrum RGB Sensor (low Priority) (As known from the LG G4)
Laser Auto Focus (low Prior) (as known from LG G3 and G4)
Burst Shot Limit - higher than just 20
Lossy digital zoom is useless. Only Lossless Digital Zoom is good.
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I'm still very satisfied with the Note 3 Camera. ♥
Every help is highly appreciated. But please take this thread seriously.

The main Problem is, that every useful app is only supportet on Android Ugly Edition 5.0.
I don't like the case, if the lowest API that an app supports is 19 or higher.
I miss the old pretty times, where the Note 2 (with it's beautiful TouchWiz Nature UX 1.0) with it's Android 4.0.4 or 4.1.2 or where the Note 3/10.1(2014) with their superior User Interface (TouchWiz NatureUX 2.5) and Android 4.3 were the newest. Then 4.4 ruined all software. Now 5.0 comes with a ruined U/UX.
Also the S5's UI was OK, but lost some features. I like this ocean blue of the S5.
The Note 4's UI+Hardware lost too many features.

Hannah Stern said:
The main Problem is, that every useful app is only supportet on Android Ugly Edition 5.0.
I don't like the case, if the lowest API that an app supports is 19 or higher.
I miss the old pretty times, where the Note 2 (with it's beautiful TouchWiz Nature UX 1.0) with it's Android 4.0.4 or 4.1.2 or where the Note 3/10.1(2014) with their superior User Interface (TouchWiz NatureUX 2.5) and Android 4.3 were the newest. Then 4.4 ruined all software. Now 5.0 comes with a ruined U/UX.
Also the S5's UI was OK, but lost some features. I like this ocean blue of the S5.
The Note 4's UI+Hardware lost too many features.
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Heard of launchers and themes?
And TW is never nice.

Tap-to-Shoot
The Tap-to-Shoot-Feature, which is activated by tapping somewhere in the Viewfinder, isn't in the S4, but actually it does exist on the Note 3.
I have not seen it before.

My large Post in the following link also includes some camera disadvantages, that also hit the Note 3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61982181&postcount=529
ShutterLag: Good but could be better.
Manual Settings in Jelly Bean API
Unlimited Burst Shots (Lixe Xperia Z)

[Q] Does the Note 3 have HDR-Video?

Hello. In 2013, the HTC One M7 and the Xperia Z (Z0) were released parallel to the S4.
After half a year, the Galaxy Note 3 was released.
I wonder, if the Galaxy Note 3 has HDR-Video.
The S5 does have it. And Note 4 too.
I can switch to HDR Mode and record a video. But I am not sure, whether there is a difference.
Does the Note 3 have HDR-Video?
If so, how to enable it?

First of all true HDR was developed for still cameras long time ago and it works by combining usually 3 separate pictures shot at different exposures to create one with higher dynamic range, than the sensor is capable off. I'm not sure how it would be possible to shot 3 frames and combine them into 1, all inside at most 1/30 sec, maybe at low resolution, but no way at anything close to max resolution. So whatever they are doing, I don't think they are doing true HDR. Now, specifically HTC has low resolution camera sensor (4mb? compared to 12 MB Note3), which has higher dynamic range to begin with (due to larger photo sensor size) and therefore I think can use other tricks, to make it look like HDR. However when I looked at videos from HTC posted around web, I wasn't impressed that much either. Anyhow, I don't think Note3 can do HDR video and I don't see any difference either.

Watch the Galaxy S7 destroy the iPhone 6S in a low light camera shoot out [VIDEO]

While some could argue that there isn’t a huge difference between the newly announced Samsung Galaxy S7 and its older sibling — last year’s Galaxy S6 — it’s hard to argue that the latest iteration in Samsung’s Galaxy S lineup didn’t receive a significant upgrade in the camera department. Tackling the 2 biggest challenges modern smartphone cameras face, Samsung was able to build a camera that, not only takes a better photo in low light, but can focus faster in these normally challenging situations as well.
They did this by using a larger f1.7 aperture lens and something they’re calling a “Dual Pixel” system. With a new Sony IMX260 camera sensor that captures more light by using larger 1.4μm pixels (at the cost of less megapixels), Samsung says the Galaxy S7 is capable of capturing 95% more light than the IMX240 sensor found in the Galaxy S6. The Galaxy S7 camera also uses all of the 12 million pixels to act as focus pixels, a feature you typically only find in full-sized DSLRs (phase detection auto focus). The end result is faster, more accurate auto-focus — 3 times faster than on the Galaxy S6 — and exceptional low light picture quality
Still don’t believe the hype? Located in Samsung’s huge MWC 2016 booth, the Korean manufacturer showcased the new low light capabilities of the Galaxy S7 by allowing us to see it for ourselves. They did this in a dark room that was so dimly lit, we had trouble seeing anything in there with our own eyes. See what happens when the Samsung Galaxy S7 goes up against last year’s Galaxy S6, and the Apple iPhone 6S in a lighting situation you’d have to be crazy to even attempt to shoot with a smartphone. We think the results speak for themselves.

Androidynamic said:
While some could argue that there isn’t a huge difference between the newly announced Samsung Galaxy S7 and its older sibling — last year’s Galaxy S6 — it’s hard to argue that the latest iteration in Samsung’s Galaxy S lineup didn’t receive a significant upgrade in the camera department. Tackling the 2 biggest challenges modern smartphone cameras face, Samsung was able to build a camera that, not only takes a better photo in low light, but can focus faster in these normally challenging situations as well.
They did this by using a larger f1.7 aperture lens and something they’re calling a “Dual Pixel” system. With a new Sony IMX260 camera sensor that captures more light by using larger 1.4μm pixels (at the cost of less megapixels), Samsung says the Galaxy S7 is capable of capturing 95% more light than the IMX240 sensor found in the Galaxy S6. The Galaxy S7 camera also uses all of the 12 million pixels to act as focus pixels, a feature you typically only find in full-sized DSLRs (phase detection auto focus). The end result is faster, more accurate auto-focus — 3 times faster than on the Galaxy S6 — and exceptional low light picture quality
Still don’t believe the hype? Located in Samsung’s huge MWC 2016 booth, the Korean manufacturer showcased the new low light capabilities of the Galaxy S7 by allowing us to see it for ourselves. They did this in a dark room that was so dimly lit, we had trouble seeing anything in there with our own eyes. See what happens when the Samsung Galaxy S7 goes up against last year’s Galaxy S6, and the Apple iPhone 6S in a lighting situation you’d have to be crazy to even attempt to shoot with a smartphone. We think the results speak for themselves.
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There is already a camera thread. It's better to post there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/galaxy-s7-camera-thread-t3316316

Pierre118 said:
There is already a camera thread. It's better to post there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/galaxy-s7-camera-thread-t3316316
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Did you see How is much better ??!!!

Galaxy S7 Camera thread
You can go here for all S7 camera discussion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/galaxy-s7-camera-thread-t3316316
Thanks,
Bajanman

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Did Samsung improve the shutter speed on Note10+?? When I had the S10+ the still photos looked great, however it was hard to get a picture of my daughter(18mo old) that didn't look blurry

I spent a couple of days doing camera comparisons with my Pixel 3 XL, which I sent back on Friday (got my Note 10 on Wednesday). I found that I personally like the photos in daylight better from the Note 10, as they look just a bit more "punchy" and clear to me, but that's Samsung applying a deeper saturation and more sharpening. YMMV on that. Early reviews I read online said that it was on par with the Pixel 3 in daylight, but quickly fell apart in low light. I'm happy to report that wasn't my experience at all. Night mode works great, and while it would be nice to have an indicator of how long to hold it, it seems to be just as fast at the Pixel 3. The Pixel 3 did beat it out just a bit with clarity, but not by a very wide margin. I did some blind comparison test between shots from the Note 10 and the Pixel 3 XL with my girlfriend (who has a Pixel 3 XL of her own), and 9 of the 11 shots she picked were the Note 10 shots over the Pixel 3. She prefered the Pixel 3's selfie shot and it's Night Sight shot, but she said she really couldn't tell much of a difference in them.
Aside from quality, I like different Live Focus backgrounds, and being able to swipe up from a corner on the lockscreen to get to the camera is a huge plus for me. It's much faster for me to go from pocket to shot now. I'm going to a convention this weekend, so I expect to get some good use out of the triple cameras too. All in all, I'm beyond happy with the Note 10 camera, and coming from the Pixel 3 XL, I was very concerned, as that was hands down the best camera on a phone I'd ever used. The Note 10 isn't leaps and bounds better, but it is better, in my opinion.

As much as I like Note 10, camera is crap compared to Pixel 3. I've been shooting all day and most images are near useless if subject is moving, automatic in anything less then ideal conditions is also terrible, and can only be improved with Pro mode. Faces are too white and details are all washed out. I had exactly the same results with S10 that I returned
I am not sure what Samsung is thinking. Big company and great hardware, $1000 phone, yet software is not good and photos are behind even Pixel 1
Ps. I am leaning towards keeping the phone anyway and will give Gcam a try

Note 10+ Night Camera is really crap compared to the Pixel phone.... Ugh... Samsung again with their bs

EclipseGST20 said:
Did Samsung improve the shutter speed on Note10+?? When I had the S10+ the still photos looked great, however it was hard to get a picture of my daughter(18mo old) that didn't look blurry
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No they haven't. I had a good hands on with the device at their stores and took my kids to just specially test this out.
I sold my S10 plus for this very reason and unfortunately in the Note note 10, they still haven't sorted it out. I had a Galaxy Note 8 and that was the last Samsung without this issue. I think it's something to do with the dual aperture.
Installing Gcam seems to help a lot but I have Exynos chip and doesn't get ported very well.

You have to use Pro mode in order to get anything useful with moving subject. Or Gcam maybe, I haven't tried yet

Daylight shots are very good though, I would say even better then Pixel

ZayaanAhyaan said:
No they haven't. I had a good hands on with the device at their stores and took my kids to just specially test this out.
I sold my S10 plus for this very reason and unfortunately in the Note note 10, they still haven't sorted it out. I had a Galaxy Note 8 and that was the last Samsung without this issue. I think it's something to do with the dual aperture.
Installing Gcam seems to help a lot but I have Exynos chip and doesn't get ported very well.
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Same thing here with my wife's S10e. Since my S7 I hate this. Nowadays I have an iPhone Xr and this is not a problem, fortunately... But I'd like to go back to Android again... Maybe with Pixel 4...
Using pro mode on S10e I've got a nice result setting the shutter speed at least at 1/250. But you lose performance on HDR... So it's like a short sheet... You cover something and uncover other...

That's another mess, the pro mode.
On my note 8, i chose to keep a fast shutter speed and my preferred white balance with iso as a shortcut on home screen. This way it allowed me to directly jump into 3 of my preferred pro mode setting directly without fiddling and adjusting, but as always, Samsung had to take a damn step back and removed this shortcut starting from note 9.

Hmmmnnn. I had a note 8, and all the others besides the 9. Any of them, like any other cameras I have used(cameras and camcorders), with the faster shutter speeds, I always use manual(or as Samsung likes to call pro). I guess most of my subjects when I learned were really fast(rc helicopters doing aerobatics and saltwater reef tanks), so the old rule of 'learn manual shooting first and don't rely on auto' saved me.
Neither of those environments are ideal, and i learned to just 'make' the cameras work for me. It's not a fault of the devices, it's just the honest inherent nature of auto mode.. I also love macro photography, so that is another realm in which manual knowledge is key..
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The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits

watsinaname said:
The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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Portrait is very good as far as i'm concerned. Maybe malfunctionning device ? I have exynos as well and no pb with photos (EDIT : i have Note 10 Plus though so maybe TOF does the job).
My portait photos are probably the most striking and accurate i ever took with a smartphone, i have very nice pics of my kids taken with it.
Single hairs on sides are not blurred either, it only blurs the background and does it right.

I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one

villadecai said:
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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Plain wrong... Post exemple or it never happened.

Camera is not good but much better than OP7
villadecai said:
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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I compared with OP7 and found that Note 10 (Exynos) is far better when compared to OnePlus 7.
Though Pixel 2 XL have much better camera

Just wondering whether the staggering difference in photo quality between Exynos and Snapdragon versions of Note 10 is here as well. I was shocked how far better was Galaxy S9 (Snapdragon) in this term.

Definitely isn't this year...the Exynos model has improved a lot so much so there's a huge difference between the photo quality of the note 10 and the S10 5g I had.

new update to camera today

watsinaname said:
The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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That is weird, I find portrait quality to be much better than my Note 8 and iphone XS Max, edge definition is outstanding compared to iphones and I have taken portrait shots that are as good (resolution aside) as my Canon 70D with 85mm lens.

Regarding camera performance.

Once used Google Pixel XL. Then used Samsung Galaxy S9+, Oneplus 7T now using Galaxy S20+ honestly speaking no other phone can match the pixel XL's camera performance . Attaching a photo taken with pixel xl.

Looks more like an Alcatel Phone camera.

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Once used Google Pixel XL. Then used Samsung Galaxy S9+, Oneplus 7T now using Galaxy S20+ honestly speaking no other phone can match the pixel XL's camera performance . Attaching a photo taken with pixel xl.
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You should have stuck with that pixel xl... It's amazing

Sohag0910 said:
Once used Google Pixel XL. Then used Samsung Galaxy S9+, Oneplus 7T now using Galaxy S20+ honestly speaking no other phone can match the pixel XL's camera performance . Attaching a photo taken with pixel xl.
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Agreed...google's image processing just can't be beat. Very much considering picking up a pixel as a secondary device just for taking photos .

TBH that is a pretty horrible quality photo

Sohag0910 said:
Once used Google Pixel XL. Then used Samsung Galaxy S9+, Oneplus 7T now using Galaxy S20+ honestly speaking no other phone can match the pixel XL's camera performance . Attaching a photo taken with pixel xl.
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It's actually useless without a comparision to the same scene taken with the S20+.
But sure Pixels profit hugely from the Google camera app and its software processing. But as soon as use third-party apps you can see how dated the camera hardware/sensor is. Heck, the Pixel 5 still has practically the same old tiny sensor as the Pixel 2 ( Sony IMX362 vs. IMX363). Do some video recording in bad light conditions with a Pixel and the S20 and you will see the difference in sensor quality (in favor of the S20 of course).

I know my one plus 7 pro did so much better at processing than Samsung. The s20 isn't too bad but still most Def better on the market

TheMadScientist said:
I know my one plus 7 pro did so much better at processing than Samsung. The s20 isn't too bad but still most Def better on the market
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When it comes to camera hardware/sensors there is not too much better stuff than the S20 series. The Ultra is even a little better. And the Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra has by far the best camera hardware. But most phones just compensate for it with software (especially Pixels with their tiny sensors). If you used the exact same camera app (like some GCam port) on all those phones you would get a more objective comparison. Of course, most people just want a phone with stock software and no root or any deeper changes to the system. So overall camera performance can be compared on the DXOMark page for example.
And even if the S20 has the better sensor, the Pixel's Google software is just much better at processing giving it an overall better ranking.
I compared videos shot with the same app on several devices (Quick Video Recorder which can record with the screen off) and thus settled for the S20+. It was the only phone with better camera hardware than my 4 years old HTC U11. Both Pixel 4 and Xiaomi Note 10 Lite performed worse in regard to detail, lighting and noise.
If you just want a phone to go and shoot pictures with then yeah, get a Pixel.

Knotte said:
When it comes to camera hardware/sensors there is not too much better stuff than the S20 series. The Ultra is even a little better. And the Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra has by far the best camera hardware. But most phones just compensate for it with software (especially Pixels with their tiny sensors). If you used the exact same camera app (like some GCam port) on all those phones you would get a more objective comparison. Of course, most people just want a phone with stock software and no root or any deeper changes to the system. So overall camera performance can be compared on the DXOMark page for example.
And even if the S20 has the better sensor, the Pixel's Google software is just much better at processing giving it an overall better ranking.
I compared videos shot with the same app on several devices (Quick Video Recorder which can record with the screen off) and thus settled for the S20+. It was the only phone with better camera hardware than my 4 years old HTC U11. Both Pixel 4 and Xiaomi Note 10 Lite performed worse in regard to detail, lighting and noise.
If you just want a phone to go and shoot pictures with then yeah, get a Pixel.
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I like the s20. It does do very well. I use a lot of the features. I do a lot in manual mode too. And previous models just didn't seem to handle as well as this. But I still like the op7pro for certain situations it does amazing