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I remember the good ol days when people just dropped by, downloaded some stuff, left nice comments and went about their day. Lately, bout the last month or so, the threads have been filled with "I donated a dollar, I want my ROM" or "can I get an ETA on this?" (which is the rudest question I've ever seen here) or just people arguing or one-upping each other. I fear we're losing the community-based friendliness of this site as the days go along.
As we can see, a few devs have had enough and already left. How much longer is everyone gonna keep this up? It's like I visited XDA one day and it turned into an AOL n00b forum. It sucks. I want the old XDA back where people didn't cry about CM missing deadlines (they just visited again later and if a new CM was up they were happy, if not they just came back later), people didn't complain about Damageless losing his job and having to focus on his life instead of ours, people simply enjoyed what was available instead of hounding devs about when stuff is coming out.... I must say it'll be released when it's released!
I just don't understand what's so difficult about giving those who give us the time of our lives time to breathe and enjoy their lives too. It shouldn't matter whether a "donation" of a $1 or $1000 is made - the devs (and some of the senior members, shucks, even like me) deserve a lot more respect than what's going around lately. At the end of the day, I just don't want to suffer for following the rules when others decide to wreck it for the rest of us.
Anyway, I just had to rant. I still <3 XDA and always will. This place really has changed my life forever.
That is very well said. Devs should be praised not hounded.
annnnnnnd now you're crying lol sorry had to.
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annnnnnnd now you're crying lol sorry had to.
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lol ok you got me
LOL, this is what happens when we recommend ROM flashing noobs to XDA developers. Impatient, expecting, demanding & consuming individuals.
The old XDA had it, it just multiplied x3 when Android came into the fray.
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LOL, this is what happens when we recommend ROM flashing noobs to XDA developers. Impatient, expecting, demanding & consuming individuals.
The old XDA had it, it just multiplied x3 when Android came into the fray.
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That's a great way to put it. Didn't think about it like that.
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annnnnnnd now you're crying lol sorry had to.
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hahaha I knew that was coming from someone.... Hey it is what it is... this place is packed full of redundant and repetitive questions but what ya gonna do...
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LOL, this is what happens when we recommend ROM flashing noobs to XDA developers. Impatient, expecting, demanding & consuming individuals.
The old XDA had it, it just multiplied x3 when Android came into the fray.
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Everyone was a noob at some point. Don't let that be used as an excuse for bad forum behavior.
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I have seen this before with Forums as the user-base grows and popularity increases, which Android brought many non technical users into the smartphone era, your impatient/arrogant/immature user-base grows as well and since they are still learning how things work but want it now since this is the era of entitlement your gonna get alot of asshats wanting there ROM now or there FIX now. It sucks but It happens.
One thing about XDA is its never been that user friendly or at least as long as I have been here. Seems like a few people come here just to be assholes. They know everything and even if you agree with them they will still act like dicks. With that said I try to stay out of those situations. Sit back in my thread and sometime comment on topics. Sorry but its true.
Try it, post something in the wrong thread by accident and see what happens.
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I have seen this before with Forums as the user-base grows and popularity increases, which Android brought many non technical users into the smartphone era, your impatient/arrogant/immature user-base grows as well and since they are still learning how things work but want it now since this is the era of entitlement your gonna get alot of asshats wanting there ROM now or there FIX now. It sucks but It happens.
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This. The Evo was the first time that an android device really blew up with the non-technical crowd, and of course XDA has a reputation, so all of the new users came here. Unfortunanly, they don't really understand what it means to be a member of a development community though, and look at XDA like it's just another smartphone forum.
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One thing about XDA is its never been that user friendly or at least as long as I have been here. Seems like a few people come here just to be assholes. They know everything and even if you agree with them they will still act like dicks. With that said I try to stay out of those situations. Sit back in my thread and sometime comment on topics. Sorry but its true.
Try it, post something in the wrong thread by accident and see what happens.
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This is true, but back then people just took it in stride. Also, people have gotten a lot less militant about posting in the wrong threads. Back in june/july though, it was rough. And god forbid you didn't search first...
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This. The Evo was the first time that an android device really blew up with the non-technical crowd, and of course XDA has a reputation, so all of the new users came here. Unfortunanly, they don't really understand what it means to be a member of a development community though, and look at XDA like it's just another smartphone forum.
This is true, but back then people just took it in stride. Also, people have gotten a lot less militant about posting in the wrong threads. Back in june/july though, it was rough. And god forbid you didn't search first...
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I lightened up my statement a bit.. its not a lot just a select few.
I've been guilty of wrong thread bashing myself it can be kinda fun. All depends on how out of place the topic is.
P_dub_S has it right. the market just expanded so much for androids. its like when blackberry came out with the Pearl and every teenage girl had one lol... most of the new phones arnt owned by tech people. hopefully in the fallowing months they will calm down. stil think the best forum was the xda section for the eris im just happy to have a phone lol so dont mind me
Most people just don't see how hard it is to make some of this stuff work. People must think that making roms/themes/kernels is just a bunch of copying and pasting or something...one thing that bugs the living hell out of me is on those Desire HD port threads...if the OP doesn't respond in 3 days, they just bump it saying something like "Well...I guess this is dead..." Devs ain't robots, something wrong with these people...
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Most people just don't see how hard it is to make some of this stuff work. People must think that making roms/themes/kernels is just a bunch of copying and pasting or something...one thing that bugs the living hell out of me is on those Desire HD port threads...if the OP doesn't respond in 3 days, they just bump it saying something like "Well...I guess this is dead..." Devs ain't robots, something wrong with these people...
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Exactly. What people don't understand is this is a hobby. We are not making a living doing this, and I do not get paid for this. Yes its true that we do receive donations but not NEARLY as many as I think people assume.
imho...these forums which used to be filled with great developers turned into a forums filled with the developers wanting compensation or in prettier words "beer money" for their time and effort instead of "joy and fun" or "hobby" of making roms and is slowly becoming more "pay-to-play" and if you don't pay, they take their business elsewhere to their own "pay-to-play" forums....just my own observation going from windows mobile development to android....
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imho...these forums which used to be filled with great developers turned into a forums filled with the developers wanting compensation or in prettier words "beer money" for their time and effort instead of "joy and fun" or "hobby" of making roms and is slowly becoming more "pay-to-play" and if you don't pay, they take their business elsewhere to their own "pay-to-play" forums....just my own observation going from windows mobile development to android....
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Not doubting you, but I'm curious (because I don't frequent other forums, or noticed anyone leaving), who took their "business" elsewhere, and where did they take it? I haven't really seen that - those donation links in the sigs have been around forever...
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Not doubting you, but I'm curious (because I don't frequent other forums, or noticed anyone leaving), who took their "business" elsewhere, and where did they take it? I haven't really seen that - those donation links in the sigs have been around forever...
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He is correct I have seen a few developers take their ROMs elsewhere (create their own website) but I'm not sure it was about money. I have donated to a few chiefs because I understand the time that goes into making these ROMs. Its time I could be spending with my kids. People seems to feel chiefs are obligated to do this for some reason. I do it because I like it not because I want to get paid. I get paid at work. When people complain at you all the time it turns it into work and then it isn't fun anymore.
Screw all of you....I payed my turkey sandwich and a hooker! I want my damn daily updates with a rom so spectacular that it will make me a full course meal.
Of course im playing but i cant help but agree with you. I find that i spend more time sorting through "non searchers" than anything else. I hope to see this calm down over the next year. Good thing about this is that people will only get smarter and simmer down....My car forums(g35driver.com) is getting worse as the car gets cheaper. More kids and ridiculousness.
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Screw all of you....I payed my turkey sandwich and a hooker! I want my damn daily updates with a rom so spectacular that it will make me a full course meal.
Of course im playing but i cant help but agree with you. I find that i spend more time sorting through "non searchers" than anything else. I hope to see this calm down over the next year. Good thing about this is that people will only get smarter and simmer down....My car forums(g35driver.com) is getting worse as the car gets cheaper. More kids and ridiculousness.
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that's where you are wrong...sure "some" people may get smarter, but for every person that gets smarter, 5 more noobs are sure to follow...
I have been following samsung mobile on twitter and haven't heard anyone really talk about the 2.2 rom after that rumor of it being released dec 26 2010. Anyone heard anything else?
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There are plenty of threads about this already and no we are never going to get official froyo
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Anyone with some REAL INFORMATION?
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Anyone with some REAL INFORMATION?
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Forum mod has asked people specifically to stop posting these threads. When there is any real indication of Froyo coming, it will be posted.
I've read many blogs, twitter feeds, and comments about this. All I've heard is that even though it's still not ready, it's still being tested. It seems as though they're trying to iron out all of the kinks so that every phone gets the update smoothly and that EVERYTHING works. That goes for all Galaxy S phones, and not just the Epic 4G.
However, in my opinion, it seems as though they're taking their damn sweet time. Can't figure out if Samsung has incompetent programmers, management, or both. However, on the bright side, atleast Samsung is letting us know what's up and not COMPLETELY leaving us in the dark. Although, they're not setting a deadline other than "when it's done" nonsense.
In terms of whether or not it's the carrier's problem really isn't correct. I would assume the carriers don't care as long as the phone can comply with certain guidelines (AKA no hot spotting unless you pay for it), then it's good to go.
Remember, even though most of us are salivating for a new upgrade, I'd say most people have no idea that a new one is in the making. If you say all of your friends know about the upcoming upgrade, you have some mighty geeky friends!
My guess is that it should roll out in the next couple of weeks. Hell, they've had since August to work on the damn upgrade. My guess is that Samsung has a crappy programming staff, ****ty management, and limited budget for upgrading phones.
That's my take on the big mess. Here's hoping it comes soon and works as they promised.
If new useless froyo threads popping up in this forum was a drinking game we would all be dead from alcohol poisoning.
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i would only be lightly trashed.
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Wow, another one of these posts. Reported.
Again I will say it. Why isnt there a dedicated sticky that deals with ALL froyo speculation? All of these threads could be merged with it and all speculation could happen inside of it. Where are the mods and what are they doing? I know its not an easy job to do, but it seems like no one is in charge of this forum at all. No sticky linking to the wiki or a basic guide so that noobs can set up their phone easier. No sticky dealing with froyo speculation. Why not just add another moderator if you need the help?
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If new useless froyo threads popping up in this forum was a drinking game we would all be dead from alcohol poisoning.
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. . . . . LOL
I am thinking you cannot make people stop commenting about something if that is what they want to talk about. Perhaps a sticky at the top of this section of the forum with the official status of froyo 2.2 has or has not been released yet so PLEASE don't ask anymore. We will change the topic of this post the first thing when it is released to let you know it is available.
I am not telling anyone what to do, I am simply trying to offer ideas towards a solution to this problem.
Exactly. Have a sticky where people CAN discuss Froyo speculation, and then any threads that are STILL posted to general can just get merged with that sticky thread or deleted.
Instead of childish responses, why arent these threads just closed. Is there no type of moderation here?
EA04,thats all Ill say for now...
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Dear Mods, I will not insult you anymore about Froyo. I'm soo over it and flash to Custom Roms weeks ago. So you don't have to say a word about these threads being started. Just Close them and ask questions later or hell don't ask or explain why you closed them. Just Do IT!
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EA04,thats all Ill say for now...
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EA04 would mean it was completed 2 days ago. So 3-6 more months of testing and 30-40 more versions and we should have a final release.
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Instead of childish responses, why arent these threads just closed. Is there no type of moderation here?
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Instead of insulting our forum mod who tries his best to keep our forums clean, why don't we just let him do his job when he gets time to do it?
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Instead of insulting our forum mod who tries his best to keep our forums clean, why don't we just let him do his job when he gets time to do it?
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There should be another mod in ADDITION to him. I think that is the point.
Sprint will only release Froyo when there are no new xda "when is froyo coming out?" posts for an entire day. Unfortunately, at this rate it may never be released.
Sorry for the post. I read that somewhere
Is anyone sick of a$$holes being dicks to the wrong people?
How much longer will we be the greatest country in the world with ****heds wasting time and energy bringing down the whole.
Get lost douche.
Misspelled on purpose.
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The topic is tired.
If I were you I would work that energy elsewhere while the devs work on getting 2.2 to you quicker.
And agreed with above poster...you are attacking some minimum wage employee who tries to help people with tech support. What is he going to do? March down to the CEO's office right down the hall and tell him YOU are mad and joining a lawsuit?? lol
And as far as a lawsuit is concerned, yes, we all want an update to improve the phones we purchased, thinking an update was coming soon. It hasn't. You are owed nothing! They don't have to update at all. Yet, they will and someone else will get mad because it wasn't Gingerbread...on and on...
Mods, please lock this down as the thread essentially goes against the "Where's 2.2 threads"
One of the fastest ways I can think of to get a company to immediately stop talking to you is to threaten lawsuits. At that point you will often find yourself referred to the legal department for all further communication.
/me hangs his head in shame for the op.
/me slaps op around a bit with a large trout.
good day.
If you want to talk to samsung about it, talk yourself and keep it to yourself. Stop posting all these samsung sucks, etc thread to the XDA forums.
You want 2.2 or something for fascinate so bad, learn some programming and try helping some dev here.
I'd rate this thread 0 stars if I could...
I was ignorant like the OP was, put clockwork and super clean and now much happier. And the OP is a moron, if he'd spend 10 seconds looking under android development he'd see that we have not 1 but 2!!!! Froyo roms working partially.
Your cool...
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C'mon people, time to stop beating the dead horse. Berating customer service reps never, ever, EVER gets you anywhere. If you ever do get a seemingly satisfactory response from one of them on an inquiry like this, they most likely made it up in order to make you happy and get off the line. Most of these people are not phone geeks, and do not follow the latest news and rumors. They have no clue about what's going on without it being presented to them in their official documentation, so yelling at them will get you nowhere.
Furthermore, I work in a call center for a tech company, and I get sad (and sometimes mad) when I read chat logs like this, because I've been on the receiving end of crap like that, and it's not fun. Just be glad they have enough class to not give in to your abuse.
Who the f___ actually thinks frontline (read: answering customers directly) reps from any company have any decision making ability, or repository of secret info? What a waste of time bullying the wrong people. I'm frontline tech for VZW, and we are told *nothing* until a few days before due to all the info leaks these days. I get info from boygeniusreport.com, engadget.com, and phonearena.com WAY before I get anything official. Get a life and grow up.
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/me hangs his head in shame for the op.
/me slaps op around a bit with a large trout.
good day.
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I'd rate this thread 0 stars if I could...
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I'm new to the forums, but I can see that the "f" word is not a good topic to post about. Just going through and reading some of the threads in the general section has shown me this is a touchy topic. Maybe if the OP would have done the same thing he wouldn't be getting hounded right now. Just a thought
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I'm new to the forums, but I can see that the "f" word is not a good topic to post about. Just going through and reading some of the threads in the general section has shown me this is a touchy topic. Maybe if the OP would have done the same thing he wouldn't be getting hounded right now. Just a thought
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You are correct. Literacy is the answer.
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It's like what used tell the people I deal with being a cashier at KMart, "What do you expect me to discuss about that?"
There has been a leak and it will probably be up tonight. Just wait...
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Okay, I was able to file a complaint through a channel that not only has allowed me to order the Nexus 6 I wanted, but also have it sent via free overnight FedEx to be delivered tomorrow... yes, on Saturday.
I was going to post how I did this, but felt it [maybe] unfair to the people who made it happen for me.
So, this leads me to the question: Of all of the people trying to buy this phone, who would truly benefit this community if they were able to get one? Also, who would keep this information confidential and not repost it for the whole community?
Now, I'm not saying this is guaranteed, but from the time I initiated contact, I had a call back within a few short hours, and was able to place an order over the phone.
Are there any developers who have been unable to get it, who would undoubtedly do some serious good by having one?
I hope no one takes this the wrong way. I have zero developing skills, and this is just a tiny way for me to do something for someone deserving since I've benefited so much from this community.
I see what you are trying to do OP.... Might be best to just send a pm next time
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I am not asking for donations. And this thread has been taken all wrong anyway.
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I am not asking for donations. And this thread has been taken all wrong anyway.
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Ok, I would vote for @franciscofranco. I believe he is still waiting for his and is supposed to be shipped Dec 15 from the UK.
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Ok, I would vote for @franciscofranco. I believe he is still waiting for his and is supposed to be shipped Dec 15 from the UK.
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Thank you! Ask him if he's willing to wait or if he wants to go this route and I'll PM him. Hell, I've used his kernels more than any other.
@franciscofranco is waiting for his to arrive, @rascarlo cant afford one. and he is a great deserving rom developer.
This thread breaks no rules that I am aware of.
If you do not like it, do not read it.
I understand what the OP is getting at.
He has not solicited thanks or donations, if he does then report the thread.
Thread cleaned. Now keep it clean please
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@franciscofranco is waiting for his to arrive, @rascarlo cant afford one. and he is a great deserving rom developer.
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I cannot afford to buy a 2nd one for someone, but am willing to share how I got mine. I know franco is direct and upfront with his words. I don't want to offend him by offering him this info. But if anyone who knows him wants to let him know to contact me, I couldn't think of many more deserving than him.
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Please watch your language. If this thread goes pear shaped I will close it. I am watching
I agree with offering the info to Franciscofranco cause he makes a hell of a kernel and keeps it well updated! I'm sure he'd like to get started.
I'd contact CarbonROM or Slim. Last I heard Carbon said they'd only support n6 if they won a phone as no maintainers had money for it.
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I'd contact CarbonROM or Slim. Last I heard Carbon said they'd only support n6 if they won a phone as no maintainers had money for it.
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Please understand what the OP is saying
He does not have a phone to give away
He just knows a way for people to get hold of one quickly, you still have to buy it. He is not selling his own phone.
This isnt even really ground breaking news, all he did was complain up the chain of command and like most execs they dont want to deal with it so in order to make the client happy they just take care of them. You mention they told you not to post online, yet you are doing just that. I honestly dont see the point of this thread, why dont you PM a few of the top developers and see if someone is interested. Its like you are playing a game and somehow you have to be entitled to get your super top secret information.
If it were up to me i would contact someone from Slim team, CM team, PA team, and OMNI team as those 4 are actually doing real development and dont just kang/piece together bits and pieces from every other rom out there.
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This isnt even really ground breaking news, all he did was complain up the chain of command and like most execs they dont want to deal with it so in order to make the client happy they just take care of them. You mention they told you not to post online, yet you are doing just that. I honestly dont see the point of this thread, why dont you PM a few of the top developers and see if someone is interested. Its like you are playing a game and somehow you have to be entitled to get your super top secret information.
If it were up to me i would contact someone from Slim team, CM team, PA team, and OMNI team as those 4 are actually doing real development and dont just kang/piece together bits and pieces from every other rom out there.
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Well, you have every right to feel that way, even as wrong as you are. The last thing I need to do is justify anything to you or anyone else. I've got a temper, and it has shown on here, but I'm not game player. Like others have said, if you don't like the post, leave it alone.
Well OP im no Dev but if youre willing to shed some light on just how you managed that you'd be the coolest person on xda.
why the sudden change of heart though? you originally said you'd share the info if the phone did indeed ship now you wanna have some sort of vote on who to give the info to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57088617&postcount=6033
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Boom! Anyway, check back here Friday evening. Once I see my 64GB MB N6 "en route", as in "having left the care of its sender and in the hands of the carrier", I'll post how I got someone to listen to, respond, and sell me a phone, all within the same day.
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just sayin
How bout sharing it with a fellow WV native?
Somehow the thought of a smartphone in West Virginia is surreal to me.
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why the sudden change of heart though? you originally said you'd share the info if the phone did indeed ship now you wanna have some sort of vote on who to give the info to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57088617&postcount=6033
just sayin
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Yes, you're correct. I was overly excited and hadn't had time to think about it. And then.... I thought about it and how awesome this person on a small team was to me, and decided against it.
I have no problem with this thread being closed. It's obvious aside from the few who "got" what I was trying to do and posted suggestions, the rest have just whined or bickered on here.
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Somehow the thought of a smartphone in West Virginia is surreal to me.
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As opposed to Tennessee...? Lol!
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As opposed to Tennessee...? Lol!
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Born and raised in WV, moved to Tennessee 2 years ago. Grew up in Ravenswood.
Steve Kondik said:
"OnePlus is a startup just like us, and they are crazy ambitious. I'm not sure our long-term visions are necessarily converging based on the conversations we've had, but we're still going to support the [OnePlus] One. We're still behind them for this device, with plans to ship (Lollipop) next month, and I have no idea what the future holds beyond that.
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Source: Steve Kondik on India, Micromax, and OnePlus | Android Central
It seems that customers in India will have to wait for OnePlus to out their own Android 5.0 ROM.
I read this earlier. What concerns me is the very last part of the last sentence.
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I read this earlier. What concerns me is the very last part of the last sentence.
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Exactly what I was thinking...
Waiting for Feb
timmaaa said:
I read this earlier. What concerns me is the very last part of the last sentence.
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Exactly what I was thinking...
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But... we'll probably still have nightlies indefinitely.
Another leak/rumour about the ROM/OS Oneplus are working on.
https://twitter.com/leaksfly/status/555610851072167936
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That last sentence is pretty worrisome. Is that Steve's way of saying adios after February?
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That last sentence is pretty worrisome. Is that Steve's way of saying adios after February?
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It's probably best not to speculate, that's what got the stupid rumours about not getting any more support at all going.
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It's probably best not to speculate, that's what got the stupid rumours about not getting any more support at all going.
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That's true. I'm just worried to get into a phone where the official software support dies after a year.
There would be official software support as OnePlus would come out with their own ROMs if I am not mistaken.
Are CyanogenInc going to drop CyanogenMod S support for OnePlus One? Sure.
Are they going to drop support for the nightlies and "normal" CM? Nope, very unlikely.
I think we could easily relax, since there are no legal issues beyond CyanogenMod (the rom, not the company). They mantain the device they could mantain based on hardware and since OnePlus was buit with their support they know the hardware better than anyone.
Long story short, they have no interest in discontinue the nightlies, that would be just plain stupid and private them of a very big slice of the market.
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Are CyanogenInc going to drop CyanogenMod S support for OnePlus One? Sure.
Are they going to drop support for the nightlies and "normal" CM? Nope, very unlikely.
I think we could easily relax, since there are no legal issues beyond CyanogenMod (the rom, not the company). They mantain the device they could mantain based on hardware and since OnePlus was buit with their support they know the hardware better than anyone.
Long story short, they have no interest in discontinue the nightlies, that would be just plain stupid and private them of a very big slice of the market.
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You don't know this. It's speculation like this that causes stupid rumours. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that CM are dropping OnePlus. Zero. Nada. People really need to stop pretending that they have some kind of unique insight and stop this rumour spreading gossip bs.
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There would be official software support as OnePlus would come out with their own ROMs if I am not mistaken.
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You don't know this. It's speculation like this that causes stupid rumours. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that CM are dropping OnePlus. Zero. Nada. People really need to stop pretending that they have some kind of unique insight and stop this rumour spreading gossip bs.
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So are we getting C12 or C12S? I could care less about C12 really.
Zealotki11er said:
So are we getting C12 or C12S? I could care less about C12 really.
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I assume you mean CM12 and CM12S. CM12 is already available. The head of CM has revealed CM12S is coming next month. If you did some reading you'd see this information was posted only a page ago, in the first post, on this very thread you're posting in. It's actually the entire reason this thread exists.
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timmaaa said:
You don't know this. It's speculation like this that causes stupid rumours. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that CM are dropping OnePlus. Zero. Nada. People really need to stop pretending that they have some kind of unique insight and stop this rumour spreading gossip bs.
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First of all, calm down. Maybe I was wrong saying "sure", but there is no need to get so fired up.
From my point of view, they are going to split. I may not have insight informations but I know market very well. I am quite sure that both OnePlus and CM want to break up and seeing how this is going (OnePlus developing their own Lollipop Rom subsequently of the India mess) I don't think that will take long.
This is not a rumor. It's my point of view and I am free to express it.
Time will tell
No hard feelings, like the Portal turret said.
Cyanogen has a contract to provide support for the One Plus One for 2 years. They are only coming up on year 1. There will be continual updates by them for this device until 2016 atleast unless Cyanogen wants to be sued. Will they provide the official software for the One Plus 2? Probably not.
hyuratzu said:
First of all, calm down. Maybe I was wrong saying "sure", but there is no need to get so fired up.
From my point of view, they are going to split. I may not have insight informations but I know market very well. I am quite sure that both OnePlus and CM want to break up and seeing how this is going (OnePlus developing their own Lollipop Rom subsequently of the India mess) I don't think that will take long.
This is not a rumor. It's my point of view and I am free to express it.
Time will tell
No hard feelings, like the Portal turret said.
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They're contracted to provide updates for two years. The fact that OnePlus have developed a lollipop ROM doesn't mean anything, they developed a KitKat ROM too, months before any of this happened. The market has nothing to do with it either. You're doing exactly what a bunch of people did a month ago when they said we wouldn't be getting CM12S, which we are getting. I'm calm, I just can't stand this pointless and unfounded speculation.
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timmaaa said:
They're contracted to provide updates for two years. The fact that OnePlus have developed a lollipop ROM doesn't mean anything, they developed a KitKat ROM too, months before any of this happened. The market has nothing to do with it either. You're doing exactly what a bunch of people did a month ago when they said we wouldn't be getting CM12S, which we are getting. I'm calm, I just can't stand this pointless and unfounded speculation.
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I know we're not going anywhere here, so this will be my last message regarding this matter. I just want to remind you that talking about "contract" it's pointless after what happened in the Indian market. And yes, I do think it's a market thing.
OT closed for me, if you want to continue the discussion we can use pm. Sorry everyone for going off topic
hyuratzu said:
I know we're not going anywhere here, so this will be my last message regarding this matter. I just want to remind you that talking about "contract" it's pointless after what happened in the Indian market. And yes, I do think it's a market thing.
OT closed for me, if you want to continue the discussion we can use pm. Sorry everyone for going off topic
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This discussion isn't off-topic, look at the title of the thread. Do you actually understand what happened in the Indian market? Read up.
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stable CM12
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hahahahaha