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Your factory warranty will not be voided if you simply root you device. A simple OTA update (say too Kit kat, from approved channels) WILL trip KNOX. My wife's stock 8" got the update through Samsung and the fuse tripped. Those of you *****ing about it are going to sure be red when you do update to KitKat and find out its been tripped. I work for a legacy company that only uses secure devices. That's why we have KNOX, its not for a witch hunt to find out who has rooted what and wiggle out of the warranty. Unless you change how the CPU works ( overclocking and such) that can damage the device, that is a different story. But simply rooting without any additional adjustments other than program removal, debloating or changing how buttons work will not void your manufacturers warranty.
This has been bugging me for while.
Sorry.
Back to Star trek.
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog...ox-enabled-devices-and-knox-warranty-void-bit
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/about-cf-auto-root
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Your factory warranty will not be voided if you simply root you device. A simple OTA update (say too Kit kat, from approved channels) WILL trip KNOX. My wife's stock 8" got the update through Samsung and the fuse tripped. Those of you *****ing about it are going to sure be red when you do update to KitKat and find out its been tripped. I work for a legacy company that only uses secure devices. That's why we have KNOX, its not for a witch hunt to find out who has rooted what and wiggle out of the warranty. Unless you change how the CPU works ( overclocking and such) that can damage the device, that is a different story. But simply rooting without any additional adjustments other than program removal, debloating or changing how buttons work will not void your manufacturers warranty.
This has been bugging me for while.
Sorry.
Back to Star trek.
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog...ox-enabled-devices-and-knox-warranty-void-bit
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/about-cf-auto-root
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In download mode it quite clearly reads "warranty is void". Now if that message will be honored by the manufacturer and/or vendor (it) is another story altogether. But as far as the device knows the warranty *is* Void and none of your links deny that.
Now knox , may well have been designed for corporate security, sure, but that doesn't stop Samsung to also use it to deny paying for warranties. You , can call it a scheme as much as you want, but there is not one official source to deny that.
Was the knox wire tripped from official update? Bummer, no warranty for you...
Samsung in Scandinavia (Samsung Nordic office) has confirmed that a tripped knox is auto void warranty ...
A friend of mine works for a major tech importer (they sell to retailers, but also handle a good deal of the warranty shipping/repairs etc) for the scandinavian countries and according to him the support dept is supposed to check if the knox fuse is 0X0 before they do anything with the device. Major bummer!!
Upgrading my Note 3 from stock 4.3 to stock 4.4 most definitely did NOT trip my Knox counter. There would be no reason for that to happen, since Knox checks for non-Samsung firmware, and an update sent out by Samsung is (obviously) Samsung firmware.
A factory update will trip the fuse. Knox is added after the initial os is compiled. The problem is that most service centers or regional Samsung centers don't even really understand what KNOX is for. So when they see it tripped they assume that you did something detrimental to the device. When we purchased 150 s4, 8" and 10" we had a Samsung coporate rep show our staff the many enterprise features that can be implemented on the devices. He's the one that told us that simply a rooted device will not void warranty. We have had over 20 devices covered under warranty by 3 different service centers that have been rooted. Now changing Roms and kernels are a different story, we had warranty rejected by the same regional centers for 3 of our devices that we were doing testing on that had these. We have dealt with this extensively over the last 6 months or so.
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The counter trips when ANYONE attempts to rewrite or change the original firmware, factory or otherwise. This includes updates from Samsung. They don't even have the ability to reset the fuse. It requires surgery on the device.
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This simply isn't true.
The purpose of Knox is not to check for any updates but to check for tampering with the bootloader. I know nothing of the circumstances of your sister's update but numerous people have updated Knox-enabled devices with stock updates and Knox has NOT been tripped nor is it supposed to be.
Apart from anything, what you say defies common sense. What would be the purpose of a hardware fuse that tripped when any update is applied? Knox is there so that enterprises can check whether a device has been tampered with and deny certain functionality if that has happened. This wouldn't work if it were tripped by authorised updates.
There are threads here and in other forums that show that Knox is not tripped by standard updates or flashing stock ROMs (although there are limited examples where this has happened - they are very much the minority).
Added to which, there have been conflicting statements made by Samsung and its representatives over the implications of Knox 0x1. Some have said that all warranties are void. Some that warranty may not be refused if the problem is unequivocally unconnected with rooting/installing a 3rd party ROM (e.g. the home button breaking). The situation is far from clear and concerns over the implications of tripping the Knox fuse will remain well-founded until there is an authoritative statement from Samsung that Knox 0x1 will never void the hardware warranty and such a statement has not yet been made and probably never will be.
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A factory update will trip the fuse. Knox is added after the initial os is compiled. The problem is that most service centers or regional Samsung centers don't even really understand what KNOX is for. So when they see it tripped they assume that you did something detrimental to the device. When we purchased 150 s4, 8" and 10" we had a Samsung coporate rep show our staff the many enterprise features that can be implemented on the devices. He's the one that told us that simply a rooted device will not void warranty. We have had over 20 devices covered under warranty by 3 different service centers that have been rooted. Now changing Roms and kernels are a different story, we had warranty rejected by the same regional centers for 3 of our devices that we were doing testing on that had these. We have dealt with this extensively over the last 6 months or so.
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The counter trips when ANYONE attempts to rewrite or change the original firmware, factory or otherwise. This includes updates from Samsung. They don't even have the ability to reset the fuse. It requires surgery on the device.
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That is simply not true. I've updated my Galaxy Note 3 from Samsung official firmware to Samsung official firmware, and my Knox counter is not tripped. I'm sure if what you are saying is true (that any update will trip it), we would have heard from some Android news outlet or from a lot more than one person on XDA.
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I and many others up- and downgrade already their Note with OTA, Kies, Odin and so long you flash a original firmware signed by Samsung, the Knox counter is not set.
And the story with the warranty is something else. So long we didn't get reports that someone didn't get the warranty, I am observant.
KNOX is what it is. It affects probably 5% of people (enthusiasts) who buy Samsung devices. The other 95% don't know what root or a bootloader is and probably won't ever activate KNOX (the app) and it'll lay dormant on their devices forever. KNOX 2.0 is coming so those hoping it'll go away or that the *****ing of the 5% is somehow going to influence Samsung's position on KNOX either have to learn to live with it or buy non-Samsung devices.
BYOD is a huge market and why KNOX exists. The 5% of device owners that hate KNOX and the limitations on modding it applies are expendable.
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/new-knox-solutions-being-announced-mwc
As for warranty repairs on KNOX-tripped devices there are plenty of reports I've seen saying the warranty has been honored. That's not to say every regional Samsung repair center is going to play by the same set of rules but it also means there's no hard and fast policy that's corporate-wide designed to screw people out of warranty repairs they are entitled to.
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It took about a week between sending it in and getting it back. The issue I had was that the note would not reboot if you pulled the battery and reinserted without having to connect it to the charger. Before I sent it in, i flashed back to stock using ODIN. I checked the status of the repair and it said they had replaced a component. I wasn't sure if they were going to do anything since I had tripped KNOX counter.
**The kicker**
I got it back today and immediately went into download mode and to my surprise, KNOX was reset to 0X0!! I know they said they were going to flash it back to stock when they got it, but i didn't think KNOX could be reset (even by them).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2637718
This whole Knox thing was worrying me, as a potential UK purchaser of a Note 10.1 2014 who needs root to be able to run several apps that I want to use.
If rooting was going to void the warranty anyway, I would have just bought a cheaper USA model and be done with it (as there would be no UK warranty anyway). However if I should still get my two-years EU warranty then I might pay the exorbitant UK prices for a local model. Someone really ought to introduce the tech companies to the exchange rate (even with taxes & duties, US is still miles cheaper)
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KNOX is what it is. It affects probably 5% of people (enthusiasts) who buy Samsung devices. The other 95% don't know what root or a bootloader is and probably won't ever activate KNOX (the app) and it'll lay dormant on their devices forever. KNOX 2.0 is coming so those hoping it'll go away or that the *****ing of the 5% is somehow going to influence Samsung's position on KNOX either have to learn to live with it or buy non-Samsung devices.
BYOD is a huge market and why KNOX exists. The 5% of device owners that hate KNOX and the limitations on modding it applies are expendable.
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/new-knox-solutions-being-announced-mwc
As for warranty repairs on KNOX-tripped devices there are plenty of reports I've seen saying the warranty has been honored. That's not to say every regional Samsung repair center is going to play by the same set of rules but it also means there's no hard and fast policy that's corporate-wide designed to screw people out of warranty repairs they are entitled to.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2637718
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With a Jtag box it is possible to downgrade from Knox, provided you have a previously made pre Knox backup. From what I understand, even by rewriting the entire ROM space, you still can't reset the warranty bit. Not sure where exactly it is. As for People11's note coming back with it reset, he mentioned they "replaced a component." Whatever they replaced apparently held the warranty bit. Samsung might not even be able to reset it themselves, but swapping out the right hardware with fresh stuff will (obviously) take care of it.
It is true that only a small percentage of all users are affected by Knox; however, they are all on xda, and in fact make up the vast majority here. Samsung can do whatever they want to their phones, and I'm sure the warranty bit will save them a chunk of change. Still, it doesn't mean it's not a total **** move, and worthy of *****ing. The development behind Samsung devices is part of what makes them so great, and why people love them.
Tossing a big "F you" in the face of the people that make that happen is in bad taste. I also think you are underestimating the amount of users who root their phones, and the influence developers and the like have on a devices success. Not all development is for root users, but the people responsible for the best stuff, root or otherwise, are typically people who use root.
Sure, the galaxy s 5 will never end up being burried en masse out in the desert a la E.T The extraterrestrial, and I'm sure the Samsung executives won't be going hungry anytime soon no matter how much they crack down on warranty claims. Long term, however, I would say that restricting development and a devices friendliness towards modification will have a detrimental effect as time goes on.
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With a Jtag box it is possible to downgrade from Knox, provided you have a previously made pre Knox backup. From what I understand, even by rewriting the entire ROM space, you still can't reset the warranty bit. Not sure where exactly it is. As for People11's note coming back with it reset, he mentioned they "replaced a component." Whatever they replaced apparently held the warranty bit. Samsung might not even be able to reset it themselves, but swapping out the right hardware with fresh stuff will (obviously) take care of it.
It is true that only a small percentage of all users are affected by Knox; however, they are all on xda, and in fact make up the vast majority here. Samsung can do whatever they want to their phones, and I'm sure the warranty bit will save them a chunk of change. Still, it doesn't mean it's not a total **** move, and worthy of *****ing. The development behind Samsung devices is part of what makes them so great, and why people love them.
Tossing a big "F you" in the face of the people that make that happen is in bad taste. I also think you are underestimating the amount of users who root their phones, and the influence developers and the like have on a devices success. Not all development is for root users, but the people responsible for the best stuff, root or otherwise, are typically people who use root.
Sure, the galaxy s 5 will never end up being burried en masse out in the desert a la E.T The extraterrestrial, and I'm sure the Samsung executives won't be going hungry anytime soon no matter how much they crack down on warranty claims. Long term, however, I would say that restricting development and a devices friendliness towards modification will have a detrimental effect as time goes on.
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There were 968M smartphones sold in 2013. There are 5M XDA members of varying degrees of participation. Based on how vocal we are here it's easy to overestimate our importance. If unlocked bootloaders, pure android, and unfettered root access were so meaningful you'd think Nexus h/w would make up more than its current 2% of total Android devices in use. The masses could care less about the things XDA'rs do.
But keep in mind the LARGE number of Chinese phones open to root (some use it as a marketing point like Oppo) the Chinese market is full of hackers and modders because that is the only way to access many forms of media, news, and social networking. Combined with the higher average test scores and heavy android preference in the developing nations and I would say the number of people with us is Far greater than 5 million. Enough to make any one company take notice. These people crave freedom. As do I. I think we take the ignorance of the average American consumer and imagine it represents the whole of the world. But in reality America is Just full of idiots and xda represents the few good in the nation (and of course other nations)
Other nations are full of much more savvy and informed consumers. More like us.
Some of my SS device bought from another country so they have no warranty
I have fun with them a lot rooting/custom rom flashing.
But now with my P601 I bought it in my country it has warranty ....
so I am not thinking about rooting or anything.....
ps000000 said:
Some of my SS device bought from another country so they have no warranty
I have fun with them a lot rooting/custom rom flashing.
But now with my P601 I bought it in my country it has warranty ....
so I am not thinking about rooting or anything.....
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Square trade man... Saves lives
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Square trade man... Saves lives
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I have a SquareTrade policy on my Note. However, the SquareTrade excludes damage due to software. So, I would expect that if the Knox flag is tripped then the SquareTrade dollars are worthless. Unless one wants to go the dark route and submerse the Note in water "accidentally."
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I have a SquareTrade policy on my Note. However, the SquareTrade excludes damage due to software. So, I would expect that if the Knox flag is tripped then the SquareTrade dollars are worthless. Unless one wants to go the dark route and submerse the Note in water "accidentally."
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I don't that the Knox being tripped would void square trade...
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Square trade man... Saves lives
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Tell me more... Is square trade cool or what.. Just spent 656 on a smp605 and I don't know if I have a warranty or not... I know inhabe a month and 127 bucks is not allot.
MB865/ST-ATT/4.4.2/BMM
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SMP605- ? brand new
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Tell me more... Is square trade cool or what.. Just spent 656 on a smp605 and I don't know if I have a warranty or not... I know inhabe a month and 127 bucks is not allot.
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Just go to the square trade website.
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Will be in the near future a way to Root The Note 4 WITHOUT Tripping KNOX? I want to root but don't want to loose my warranty.
Is it possible???
i doubt it if so it will be months away but rooting alone does not void Warranty
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i doubt it if so it will be months away but rooting alone does not void Warranty
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Are you sure about this?
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Are you sure about this?
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From what i've read it's supposed to void your warranty, yet there's people who say they've had warranty repairs carried out with KNOX tripped, so it's pot luck as far as i tell
Have them explain how tripping knox broke your hardware.
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I work for an authorized Samsung Service Center in Canada and we do not check knox fuse when you bring your device in. Just make sure it's unrooted before you bring it in not to make things too obvious
There must be someone like the dev who create towelroot that didnt trip knox for note3 and previous versions.
Am using it on my tab note 2014 edition.
Honestly, atm it's too risky to root with tripping KNOX and then hope that your warranty service won't care about that. It's a 50/50. Waiting for a non-KNOX root.
If you're in the EU with all the many consumer protection laws, I doubt Samsung would get away with not repairing a hardware fault on a device unless they can prove it's because you rooted.
I'd soon be taking them to a small claims court if my now unrooted phone screws up within two years and they refused to repair or replace (I tripped knox)
knox being a hardware fuse is simply a shameful attempt by Samsung to claim you have modified the hardware and therefore voiding your warranty.
Just root if you really want it, like people have said before, most repair centres don't care if the knox fuse had been changed.
Would Knox will be tripped if I install stock firmware through Odin?
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If you're in the EU with all the many consumer protection laws, I doubt Samsung would get away with not repairing a hardware fault on a device unless they can prove it's because you rooted.
I'd soon be taking them to a small claims court if my now unrooted phone screws up within two years and they refused to repair or replace (I tripped knox)
knox being a hardware fuse is simply a shameful attempt by Samsung to claim you have modified the hardware and therefore voiding your warranty.
Just root if you really want it, like people have said before, most repair centres don't care if the knox fuse had been changed.
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Hmm, here in Lithuania, my almost 2 yr old, heavily modified S3's SIM reading died (EFS partition R.I.P) and they said they won't repair it because of obvious reasons. I forgot to unroot though. That's why I'm really scared to touch my N4 yet.
Just make sure you unroot flash a stock firmware if you have to repair your phone for some reason. Who needs KNOX anyways
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Just make sure you unroot flash a stock firmware if you have to repair your phone for some reason. Who needs KNOX anyways
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Don't you think those 'professional' guys check KNOX before doing anything?
Actually if you still want to retain warranty status I would suggest to root after 8-9 months(assuming it's 1yr warranty) after getting the phone. If you can maintain that long without going to service centre, I'm certain that one would not need to visit a service centre after rooting the phone.
That way 8-9 mnths from now more developments would have been released and you'll have more things to try out without the need of going to a service centre.
I'm not sure what professional guys you speak of but the carriers service center does not care when fixing your phone as long as you return to stock firmware before you turn it in. So you could always wait for eternity
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I'm not sure what professional guys you speak of but the carriers service center does not care when fixing your phone as long as you return to stock firmware before you turn it in. So you could always wait for eternity
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By professional I meant carriers service. So basically once my phone, god let that not happen, breaks, I just install non-rooted firmware with ODIN and I'm good to go?
Yes :good:
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Yes :good:
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Well I'ma trust you on this one, let the customization begin!
:good: ^5 welcome to the darkside
I'm not rooted yet but am considering it once a few more weeks pass.
If something's fundamentally wrong with the hardware, it should manifest within a month, I'd like to think. Plus, I've never had a phone need repairs in the past. Which obviously bears no relation to this one going bad or not.
I doubt there'll be a ton of ROM choices for the Duos version but Play Store, Titanium, and Nandroids are nice to have.
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Just got off with samsung support and the agent told me knox being 0x1 won't affect the warranty. I'm probably going to root anyways, but if anyone has any actual experiences with samsung and a 0x1 warranty, would you care to share?
Iffy... to say the least. I would of got what they said in writing lol
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Iffy... to say the least. I would of got what they said in writing lol
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exactly what i did, well not exactly writing, but typing is close enough. Having issues rooting atm, keep getting nand write start failed with chainroots method. I have the SMN910U
If they can prove the software caused the problems then they can outright refuse to fix it under warranty if the KNOX flag is 0x1.
So if it's just Root running on Stock Sammy it should be fine, however a custom rom on the other hand they will most likely just say it's a software issue and refuse to fix anything wrong.
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If they can prove the software caused the problems then they can outright refuse to fix it under warranty if the KNOX flag is 0x1.
So if it's just Root running on Stock Sammy it should be fine, however a custom rom on the other hand they will most likely just say it's a software issue and refuse to fix anything wrong.
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Thanks for the insight, I have only had one warranty incident with Samsung. I had to send in my note 3 (same day I got it, so it wasn't even setup). The warranty repair was a breeze though.
just rooted my phone and am noticing some major lag here and there. Anyone else?
Comment for visibility. I need to know this aswell
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If they can prove the software caused the problems then they can outright refuse to fix it under warranty if the KNOX flag is 0x1.
So if it's just Root running on Stock Sammy it should be fine, however a custom rom on the other hand they will most likely just say it's a software issue and refuse to fix anything wrong.
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Hey bud, I got my Note 4 from NZ and you think if I root my note 4, if there are problems with it, would the NZ Samsung team fix it?
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Hey bud, I got my Note 4 from NZ and you think if I root my note 4, if there are problems with it, would the NZ Samsung team fix it?
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unless they can prove the software caused an issue, or you just happen to a rep that is a stickler for the rules it should be fine
it depends on which samsung service center.
Depends on a lot of things, but mainly on the rep you get (if he's anal or not) and the kind of problem you wanna fix. If it's a hardware problem 99% of the time a 0x1 wont be a problem. Software may be another story. My advice? if you care about the warranty, don't root. Personally my devices last less than 6 months with me anyway so I root the second I get it (after I check everythings working of course).
It depends on the service centre and the general Samsung policies in each country. In the UK I've had my tablet repaired twice with Knox 0x1. First time the screen completely died, second time I had problems with the back cover and glue behind the screen (from the bad first repair). Both times nobody mentioned anything about Knox. Not to mention the tablet was running a stock 4.4.2 firmware not yet available in the UK.
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my first note 4 was rooted and knox warranty change to 0x1 from 0x0 after some days using 5 or more pixels died and send it to service center and swap my phone with new note 4 by new warranty duration
in this case defeated knox by rooting dose not affect on warranty
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It depends on the service centre and the general Samsung policies in each country. In the UK I've had my tablet repaired twice with Knox 0x1. First time the screen completely died, second time I had problems with the back cover and glue behind the screen (from the bad first repair). Both times nobody mentioned anything about Knox. Not to mention the tablet was running a stock 4.4.2 firmware not yet available in the UK.
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That's good to hear. Did you use an authorised repair centre (and if so, which one?) or send it in to Samsung directly?
When I asked a local repair centre, they were adamant that knox or rooting would void warranty as far as they were concerned. It all seems to be pot luck depending on who you speak to. E.g. here's a response from a Samsung representative on Facebook saying the same thing: https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUK/posts/651768151530771, but some others have also reported they've had success in getting repairs under warranty.
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That's good to hear. Did you use an authorised repair centre (and if so, which one?) or send it in to Samsung directly?
When I asked a local repair centre, they were adamant that knox or rooting would void warranty as far as they were concerned. It all seems to be pot luck depending on who you speak to. E.g. here's a response from a Samsung representative on Facebook saying the same thing: https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUK/posts/651768151530771, but some others have also reported they've had success in getting repairs under warranty.
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I filed a repair request online, Samsung sent a package with prepaid post, put my tablet and charger in and took it to the post office. I believe it went somewhere in England, even though I live in Scotland. So, yeah, I sent it directly to Samsung.
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Yes, yes I know it's too early. But I'm coming from a sony device, and I wounder how fast root was available for the S6, just to give me an idea.
The z3c took about a half year, and there still is no root for z5 yet.
That said, that was only for locked-bootloader.
But I wounder, the S7 edge probably have an locked bootloader which is easy to unlock just as Sony?
And do I lose other features than Samsung Pay? In sony you lost a lot, camera, xreality etc.
If someone would give me an idea how fast a root will be available for samsung S7 edge either with locked/unlocked ( tripping knox) by compassing with S6 or S5 I would consider a pre-order or just wait until root is available.
The T-mobile version of the S6 was rooted within a week, I believe.
Only speaking for the T-Mobile versions, they have been rooted pretty quickly from what I have seen. The only thing that I lost from rooting was Samsung and Android Pay but I didn't care about those. Nothing else has ever been effected in my experience.
http://recomhub.com/blog/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s7-and-galaxy-s7-edge/
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http://recomhub.com/blog/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s7-and-galaxy-s7-edge/
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While I hope that is true, I doubt it is.
No one has the device in hand to root yet, and there is no links to this Odin file on that page.
Looks a lot like a clickbait to me considering the amount of blocked adds I get when going there.
If it does get rooted, Knox will probably be tripped, if Knox is tripped then your warranty is void and no Samsung repair center will touch it. ( happened to my boys S5 last week). Samsung pay WILL NOT work with a Knox tripped phone.
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If it does get rooted, Knox will probably be tripped, if Knox is tripped then your warranty is void and no Samsung repair center will touch it. ( happened to my boys S5 last week). Samsung pay WILL NOT work with a Knox tripped phone.
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Didn't the S6 have pingpong root that didnt trip Knox?
Not that I know of
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If it does get rooted, Knox will probably be tripped, if Knox is tripped then your warranty is void and no Samsung repair center will touch it. ( happened to my boys S5 last week). Samsung pay WILL NOT work with a Knox tripped phone.
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Strange they replaced the system board on my S4 with tripped knox in that case. It depends on the individual repair centre, it's not a blanket Samsung policy.
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Didn't the S6 have pingpong root that didnt trip Knox?
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The S6 originally had a method of rooting that didn't trip Knox. But Samsung updated and closed the exploit.
book marked just in case. I just want my titanium backup so i can freeze bloat
So shop samsung website just redirects you to carrier phones. There is no way to buy an "unlocked" version right? I don't even see last year's S6 on shop samsung. I live in South America, but I have friends that can bring the phone to me... Since I am going to pay the full price, where should I buy one? Wait and buy one from Amazon? Have someone go to BestBuy and buy it whenever it is released? (Because bestbuy.com doesn't let me choose the $800 full priced one)? I've had HTC phones for a long time and I could buy them unlocked online easily.
@Chainfire is the king of this subject, if he gets the right files in hand i guess root will be achieved pretty fast... issue after is to see if there is going to be a deepsleep issue on the S7 / S7 Edge.
As what we realised with the note 5 going from a rooted 5.1.1 to 6.0.1 the deepsleep issue came back and dr.ketan made a fix for it. But it is a possibility that samsung has had / will put a trigger in the phone that once the root is done, the deepsleep issue appears. But this can possibly be fixed buy a great dev.... now we need to test and see.
What's deepsleep?
MouldingClay said:
What's deepsleep?
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DeepSleep is when you have those dreams you have to clean up after, in the morning.
Seriously, it's the lowest-power mode of the system, most battery conserving, IIRC. More reading => http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/95625/what-is-androids-sleep-mode
C0derbear said:
DeepSleep is when you have those dreams you have to clean up after, in the morning.
Seriously, it's the lowest-power mode of the system, most battery conserving, IIRC. More reading => http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/95625/what-is-androids-sleep-mode
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ROTFL
wease said:
If it does get rooted, Knox will probably be tripped, if Knox is tripped then your warranty is void and no Samsung repair center will touch it. ( happened to my boys S5 last week). Samsung pay WILL NOT work with a Knox tripped phone.
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Samsung here in Canada has fixed my note 3,4 and 5 free, rooted, no questions asked.
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wease said:
If it does get rooted, Knox will probably be tripped, if Knox is tripped then your warranty is void and no Samsung repair center will touch it. ( happened to my boys S5 last week). Samsung pay WILL NOT work with a Knox tripped phone.
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I have S6 G920F and they changed display which had been scratched by original flip cover and nobody asked me about root or knox (they knew that it was rooted). But it could be a specal case with big media publicity.
My friend had an issue with screen (it didn't fit) and they told him that they could fix the screen but it wouldn't be under warranty and he must pay for it but (!)they didn't fix only the screen but they would to replace mainboard too! The fix would cost about 1/3 of price the phone so he refused the offer and bought a new one.
Official service in Czech Republic.
Then I was one of the unlucky ones. Keep your phone away from the Plano, Texas service center if Knox id's tripped, they didn't even give me the option to pay for the fix when I asked.
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Here is a link to something that looks legit
http://www.s7fanclub.com/2016/02/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge.html
Watti1974 said:
Here is a link to something that looks legit
http://www.s7fanclub.com/2016/02/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge.html
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That is nothing more than instructions how to root using CF Root, which most XDA users know already. It even says the required CF Root files for the S7 aren't released yet.
All of a sudden I've got a red line down the right side of my screen. Had the phone since June but obviously this happens to me a few days after rooting, etc and tripping Knox...
Wondering if anyone in the UK has had any luck with similar issues with the warranty? Bought the phone unlocked from carphone warehouse.
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It depends to which repair center you will send it. Some in my country, for issues like above they don't cut your warranty if knox is tripped. However, they can if they want...so it depends on your luck.
I believe EU consumer right law prohibits any company from voiding warranty on rooted devices, so you should be fine.
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I have had 2 devices go back to Samsung through Carphonewarehouse and both of them were sent back due to knox being tripped. Spent months pointing out to samsung EU directives but they did not budge at all. You may be lucky but sorry to say I wouldnt hold your breath.
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I have had 2 devices go back to Samsung through Carphonewarehouse and both of them were sent back due to knox being tripped. Spent months pointing out to samsung EU directives but they did not budge at all. You may be lucky but sorry to say I wouldnt hold your breath.
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In this case it's Carphone Warehouse you should be arguing with, as your consumer rights are via the place that sold you the phone, not Samsung directly.
Marshall1975 said:
I have had 2 devices go back to Samsung through Carphonewarehouse and both of them were sent back due to knox being tripped. Spent months pointing out to samsung EU directives but they did not budge at all. You may be lucky but sorry to say I wouldnt hold your breath.
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unfortunately, even here that's true, some are not official samsung centers and will reject you for anything they can...
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I believe EU consumer right law prohibits any company from voiding warranty on rooted devices, so you should be fine.
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This doesn't apply to the UK, and then only in certain EU countries. Here in the UK your screwed. You can try your luck but expect a no and you'll probably have to pay for shipping the device back. I'm taking from experience. I had a 6 month battle with HTC when my charger port basically fell out and it was rooted. Had to argue something rotten to get it fixed for free.
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This doesn't apply to the UK, and then only in certain EU countries. Here in the UK your screwed. You can try your luck but expect a no and you'll probably have to pay for shipping the device back. I'm taking from experience. I had a 6 month battle with HTC when my charger port basically fell out and it was rooted. Had to argue something rotten to get it fixed for free.
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Of course EU consumer rights apply in the UK. Whilst "we" may have voted to leave the EU, we are still part of the EU and therefore EU consumer rights still apply.
You make a valid point though when you say you had to argue to get something fixed - just like insurance companies, sellers will try to argue that something that is valid (i.e. a warranty) isn't valid when they know full well that it is. They do so because most people will back down and this saves them money.
Argue your point, don't take no for an answer, and, if necessary, threaten them with Trading Standards.
Chances are that the supplier will back down because at that point it is more cost effective for them to do so, because ultimately, if you're within the warranty period, they will have to prove that the fault was caused because the device was rooted.
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Dave
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This doesn't apply to the UK, and then only in certain EU countries. Here in the UK your screwed. You can try your luck but expect a no and you'll probably have to pay for shipping the device back. I'm taking from experience. I had a 6 month battle with HTC when my charger port basically fell out and it was rooted. Had to argue something rotten to get it fixed for free.
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I have sent a rooted M7 and M8 back to HTC with no problems, as did many of my friends.
OP, give it a go. No one I know personally, who has tripped KNOX on their S6 or S7 Edge has had a warranty claim denied. I'd most certainly get trading standards involved. Not worth the hassle. Same as getting the Ombudsman involved when banks try to screw you. Once you go to an official authority figure, companies wise up. The general person backs down hence them trying to pull a fast one.
You can't fight the system. I asked to replace my new S7E because my home button was defected (it was making strange noise when released, more like getting jammed on the glass) I was declined by my seller and told to go to my warranty service, there I was told they can fix it or I can write that I refuse the phone to be fixed and demand and exchange or money back. This all started OCT24 and best case scenario I will be getting the phone NOV28 or will be getting the same defected one... That is more then a month, rly disappointed in Samsung quality waited note7 for 2-3 month as a preorder, then got a defected S7E... Imo if they wont increase their quality I will skip Sammy next year and go to a dark side.