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While the camera and processor of the new S6 looks amazing, the lack of external memory and battery changing is a deal breaker for me.
Let's start with the memory. Samsung's claim that they don't need to have the external memory slot is because 1.) The on board memory is faster 2.) Android doesn't really allow you to install apps to the external memory anymore 3.) They now offer 128GB models.
While all the above is true, that does not mean i don't want my external memory. Let's start with the price of the phone. A 16GB model will be the base. Then for another $100, you can get the 32GB. Another $100, you can get the $64. And then for another $100 (or probably $200), you can get the $128GB. That means, that the extra memory will cost you at least $300-$400. And remember, this is on a phone that will only last you 1-2 years before you want to upgrade it. So that is $300-$400 wasted. On the other hand, I can buy a Sandisk 128GB microSD card for $100. Everytime I switch phones, I can easily take my memory to the next phone. It's an investment that does not get wasted.
The speed or Android limitations of the external memory doesn't matter for things like movies, ebooks, comics, magazines, music, etc. I keep all that on my memory card, and it loads in less than a second on my phone. On top of that, when I need to load more items, I don't use the slow USB 2.0 interface. I pop out my microSD and put it in my $15 USB 3.0 reader and copy my multimedia over 3-4x faster. With the internal memory of the phone, I would be stuck using a USB 2.0 interface to copy multimedia which can take ridiculously long.
Oh.. and for added bonus, when I want to watch a movie on my Galaxy Tab S 10.5, I can take the 128GB memory card out of my phone, and pop it into the tablet. No muss, no fuss.
Now let's look at the battery.
Since Samsung used the glass back, you can no longer have replaceable batteries. This is my biggest issue with iPhones. I had to set up a charging station at my apartment for all my friends who came here, as their iPhones were always on low battery (or even dead). Meanwhile, I could bring a small pocketable battery with me everywhere. I keep one in my winter jacket and have one to slip into my jeans. I currently have a Note 4, and have only had to change the battery twice, but it's nice not worrying the entire night that showing my friends pics or texting with a friend, will result in a dead battery for the night.
Sure, you can carry a external battery charger.. But now you have to carry that and a cable that needs to be strapped in all the time to charge. (BTW.. if a manufacturer of these external batteries comes up with a way to utilize Fast Charging to charge the phone 50% in ten minutes, they will make some big $$$$)
I'm not even going to get into the topic of all the cracked iPhone backs I see daily... Which depending on the strength of this new gorilla glass, will probably happen.
Basically my point is, the reason I didn't make the move to iPhone (which 95% of my friends have) is due these options. By removing them, Samsung has made less options available for me to claim that my phone is better than an iPhone.
I'm going to stick with my Note 4. But Samsung.. if you do this same thing to the Note 5, I am switching brands.. or moving to iPhone. (EDIT: I am NOT moving to an iPhone.. I guess no understands my humor)
No external memory, no exchangeable battery, no way! What alternatives do we have if we limit this discussion to high end Android phones?
I agree with the all the key points made by EvanWasHere, furthermore, the reason I didn't go for the iPhone, is because no matter how much internal memory they give you, everything you load into your phone such as pictures, video, music, apps., etc......... Will eventually will impact the performance of your phone, unless you upload everything to a virtual storage, such as Drop Box, Google Drive etc...... I think I am going for the Note4.
No replaceable battery makes the AMOLED screen the only reason to still stick with Samsung. Given that a Galaxy phone is still pricey, I wonder if it is this one feature which is worth sticking to Samsung.
Looks like they don't like non-business customers to buy their devices anymore.
I'm not sure where you get $300-$400 from... There is no 16GB S6, it starts at 32GB. Also many Android phones go up by $50 per storage capacity, while a few go by $100 increments. Either way, you are looking at either $100 or $200 more for a 128GB over a 32GB, not $300-$400. Stop being so dramatic.
USB 2.0 is 480Mbps (60MB/s), and from my SanDisk 64GB MicroSD card I usually get around 50MB/s on my USB 3.0 card reader, so it's really not that much slower.
Why downgrade?
1. No micro SD slot
2. Non user-replaceable battery
3. Non user-replaceable battery cover, can't install dual sim adapter, useless unibody design specially when I travel.
4. Not water resistant. I use my S5 to take pics when inside pool, in rain, in snow, in Ocean as well. Unibody design should make it waterproof..unbelievable that its not even water resistant!
5. Not buying is the only way to show Samsung they their "Vendor lock in" strategy has failed.
I blame all the idiot tech journalists that are in bed with Apple and claim metal body as "premium feel/design". I also blame the sheep people that agree with these opinions. I do understand if some people genuinely prefer metal body, at least they got what they wanted in terms of design, not sure about features though.
Going to wait for G4 and Z4 now, or get Note 5 as Samsung will be back into their senses by then.
PS SanDisk just announced a 200GB microSD to rub salt on our wounds !
VICosPhi said:
1. No micro SD slot
2. Non user-replaceable battery
3. Non user-replaceable battery cover, can't install dual sim adapter, useless unibody design specially when I travel.
4. Not water resistant. I use my S5 to take pics when inside pool, in rain, in snow, in Ocean as well. Unibody design should make it waterproof..unbelievable that its not even water resistant!
5. Not buying is the only way to show Samsung they their "Vendor lock in" strategy has failed.
I blame all the idiot tech journalists that are in bed with Apple and claim metal body as "premium feel/design". I also blame the sheep people that agree with these opinions. I do understand if some people genuinely prefer metal body, at least they got what they wanted in terms of design, not sure about features though.
Going to wait for G4 and Z4 now, or get Note 5 as Samsung will be back into their senses by then.
PS SanDisk just announced a 200GB microSD to rub salt on our wounds !
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I agree with you on some of the points . No micro sd is a huge one. But this dramatic change is much needed for samsung because the s5 wasn't doing so well and if they came up with another s5 then it's going to be a big loss for them. I personally think this is the best decision samsung took. People got tired of the same recycled galaxies and the numbers are showing this. Sales are down apple is back things aren't looking good.
The galaxy s6 would've been amazing if it had a bigger battery and a micro sd. Otherwise, this is truly a powerful device that's much more polished than any previous iteration.
EvanWasHere said:
i am switching brands.. or moving to iPhone.
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memory cards corrupt (especially the higher capicity san disk)
do you know how many bad card readers samsung phones have had? its liabillity plus the fact the android makes copy to sd harder now.
theres wifi almost everywhere, so cloud storags is an option.
they sell phone cases that have extendable batteries built in. and u can still change the battery if ur willing to take the phone apart.
if thats all thats stoping u from using an iphone, u really dont seem to interested in what android offers over ios then
malek777 said:
People got tired of the same recycled galaxies and the numbers are showing this. Sales are down apple is back things aren't looking good.
The galaxy s6 would've been amazing if it had a bigger battery and a micro sd.
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Nothing against you bro, but I just want to point out something so quoted you!
Sales are not down because of recycled galaxies...think about it for a second. Sales are down because of the saturated market, and all the super phones! I won't name them all since you can pick just about any to compare and we see the power of these devices i.e. the note 4 what CAN'T it do, the S5 the g3, I phone 6, Nexus 6...
All of the above mentioned are the reason sales are down.
Same reason why development is down also, the devs have so many choices and devices to support it got overwhelming...think HTC HD2 had so many devs they were tripping over each other cause everyone had that phone. Now not only many phones also variants like edge, active, mini further hampers this.
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GreeleyXda said:
memory cards corrupt (especially the higher capicity san disk)
do you know how many bad card readers samsung phones have had? its liabillity plus the fact the android makes copy to sd harder now.
theres wifi almost everywhere, so cloud storags is an option.
they sell phone cases that have extendable batteries built in. and u can still change the battery if ur willing to take the phone apart.
if thats all thats stoping u from using an iphone, u really dont seem to interested in what android offers over ios then
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While I appreciate your points, this is probably how the discussion went at Samsung that led to the poor decision to drop so many of the staple features. The case argument it's the worst...7-9 hundred dollar premium phone and you need to buy more stuff to make it work like it used too (should)! TAKE THE PHONE APART??? Ya they took that feature away REMEMBER!
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EvanWasHere said:
I'm going to stick with my Note 4. But Samsung.. if you do this same thing to the Note 5, I am switching brands.. or moving to iPhone.
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No external memory and non user replaceable battery is deal breaker for you for SGS6, but you will move to iPhone? On iPhone can you swap battery or you have external memory?
Some interesting points I personally could live without non removable able battery and possibly sd card forsake of a beautifully crafted premium looking phone. However I fear Samsung are going to go crazy on the price which will be a complete put off. Base price is £579 for the 32gb version and probably another £50-£100 for next model up, which is a rip off just like iPhone.
Edge will probably come in at £699 for 64gb which is crazy even though it looks fantastic.
having said all that I'm really pleased spammy finally moved away from crappy plastic which was really costing them just one more major change required get rid of TW and possibly amoled and try lcd.
Yeah, Second thing I usually do with my phone is root and flash to stock to get rid of TW.
First is to swap the microsd out from my old phone, and buy a spare battery and plastic case, so premium build is sort of lost on me, and the rest....
Setting my hopes on the G4 now.
For all of you who are ranting about this phone not having a removable battery, I ask a serious question: How many times have you actually swapped batteries out? And if you have swapped, is it because you basically let your phone die (meaning you had opportunities to charge it but didn't just because you had the battery)?
I don't think I've EVER had my G3 die on me - and this phone is not known for its battery life. I have a charger at work and a charger at home and I'm usually at one of these places so I'm never far away from a charger. Does not having a removable battery IN ACTUAL USE really make that big of a difference? If the S6 can last you from morning to night, is that not enough?
My S4 is currently carrying its third battery, the two previous ones (one Samsung, one third-party) slowly died of old age (decreasing health with increasing charging cycles). I rarely forgot to charge my phone over night. It's just that I'd like to use it until the actual hardware fades away, not just until the battery lifetime is reached.
Japultra said:
For all of you who are ranting about this phone not having a removable battery, I ask a serious question: How many times have you actually swapped batteries out? And if you have swapped, is it because you basically let your phone die (meaning you had opportunities to charge it but didn't just because you had the battery)?
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I've never switched the battery in my phone, well since my Ericsson T18. But there wasn't a phone since that I ddin't have to remove the battery to turn it off completely, because something got stuck and kept crashing. Or it was the easiest way to boot into recovery after a boot loop. Tablets without removable batteries have reset switches, but any software method you use can't reinitialize hardware as a physical power off can.
This thread was inevitable. I mean Samsung could even make pigs fly, but there will be threads like this. The whole galaxy section is littered with such threads, which shows the sorry mental state of our society. Just relentless cribbing, crying and whining.
You know what, I get it you don't like it, you won't buy it and like some other device. Perfect. Why don't you go to HTC/LG/Sony/Apple forum and post a positive comment why you actually want to buy that phone instead of crying in this S6 forum? Saying something positive (don't mean astroturfing) is much better than reading this non-stop negative comments.
- So you feel that you should encourage others also not to buy the phone
- You want sympathy from the other members that Samsung failed to live to to your high standards and expectations
- You want to start a movement to force Samsung to stop the launch and give you want you wanted
- You feel the members are not educated enough to judge what's good for them
- Just sharing your thoughts and feel obliged to open a new thread even though the exact thing was mentioned probably 7450 times in last 2 days.
^^ These are the only options I can think about. If this is the usual 'sharing your feelings' option, I think one of the Moderators should open a "GS6 SUCKS" thread where everyone of us can go and put all our diatribe.
We have now come to a state where these comments/threads are nothing but a
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riz157 said:
Some interesting points I personally could live without non removable able battery and possibly sd card forsake of a beautifully crafted premium looking phone. However I fear Samsung are going to go crazy on the price which will be a complete put off. Base price is £579 for the 32gb version and probably another £50-£100 for next model up, which is a rip off just like iPhone.
Edge will probably come in at £699 for 64gb which is crazy even though it looks fantastic.
having said all that I'm really pleased spammy finally moved away from crappy plastic which was really costing them just one more major change required get rid of TW and possibly amoled and try lcd.
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Apparently the base model for the UK is going to be the 64gb model so I don't know how this will affect the pricing which has not been confirmed anywhere . If you go on the Samsung UK site they only have 64gb and 128gb listed .
allmine1976 said:
Apparently the base model for the UK is going to be the 64gb model so I don't know how this will affect the pricing which has not been confirmed anywhere . If you go on the Samsung UK site they only have 64gb and 128gb listed .
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This will save dumb buyers from buying too small of a memory size.
VICosPhi said:
1. No micro SD slot
2. Non user-replaceable battery
3. Non user-replaceable battery cover, can't install dual sim adapter, useless unibody design specially when I travel.
4. Not water resistant. I use my S5 to take pics when inside pool, in rain, in snow, in Ocean as well. Unibody design should make it waterproof..unbelievable that its not even water resistant!
5. Not buying is the only way to show Samsung they their "Vendor lock in" strategy has failed.
I blame all the idiot tech journalists that are in bed with Apple and claim metal body as "premium feel/design". I also blame the sheep people that agree with these opinions. I do understand if some people genuinely prefer metal body, at least they got what they wanted in terms of design, not sure about features though.
Going to wait for G4 and Z4 now, or get Note 5 as Samsung will be back into their senses by then.
PS SanDisk just announced a 200GB microSD to rub salt on our wounds !
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Sounds like the s5 is perfect for you! No need to buy another phone....unless you're one of the "sheep" that believes you MUST upgrade every year.
The unibody design is the only real difference over the s5. A faster processor that you won't notice unless you use an app to tell you how fast it is, and some minor software tweaks. The good news is, you already have the phone to fit your needs!
Can't please everyone. The number if people crying about a removable battery is small compared to the ones who don't care. Samsung s6 sales will be through the roof with this new design...then what argument will you guys make? Keep your current phone, problem solved.
GreeleyXda said:
memory cards corrupt (especially the higher capicity san disk)
do you know how many bad card readers samsung phones have had? its liabillity plus the fact the android makes copy to sd harder now.
theres wifi almost everywhere, so cloud storags is an option.
they sell phone cases that have extendable batteries built in. and u can still change the battery if ur willing to take the phone apart.
if thats all thats stoping u from using an iphone, u really dont seem to interested in what android offers over ios then
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I've had multiple microSD cards. 16GB, 64GB, and now 128GB. In 3-4 years of service, swapped between 3 Samsung phones, the 64GB only became flaky once, disconnecting every once in a while. So I had it warrantied. I still retained all my data. Total cost of the cards is still less than I would be paying with a phone that essentially loses value in 1 year. And yes, Android did make it harder to use external SD, but they fixed most of that in Lollipop. It is still fine for multimedia.
Cloud storage is NOT an option. 1.) Cloud storage is slow depending on where you are. My T-Mobile phone drops from LTE to 4G for no apparent reasons sometimes. Plus, when I'm in the air, on the subway, etc, I have no service. So for me to want to watch a 2GB 1080P movie during those time from "cloud storage" is impossible. 2.) Cloud storage costs a month fee as well as has a cap on file size. Have a 8GB 1080p MKV movie.. too bad.. can't store it on your cloud provider.
I don't want a cell phone case with an extended battery in it. The whole point of having a newer phone is a smaller size. As for taking the phone apart to change the battery... No..
I was making a joke about going to iPhone. I have been Android always, but Samsung is the one making the similarities too complete.
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No external memory and non user replaceable battery is deal breaker for you for SGS6, but you will move to iPhone? On iPhone can you swap battery or you have external memory?
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I was making a joke about the iPhone move. See above.
CLARiiON said:
This thread was inevitable. I mean Samsung could even make pigs fly, but there will be threads like this. The whole galaxy section is littered with such threads, which shows the sorry mental state of our society. Just relentless cribbing, crying and whining.
You know what, I get it you don't like it, you won't buy it and like some other device. Perfect. Why don't you go to HTC/LG/Sony/Apple forum and post a positive comment why you actually want to buy that phone instead of crying in this S6 forum? Saying something positive (don't mean astroturfing) is much better than reading this non-stop negative comments.
- So you feel that you should encourage others also not to buy the phone
- You want sympathy from the other members that Samsung failed to live to to your high standards and expectations
- You want to start a movement to force Samsung to stop the launch and give you want you wanted
- You feel the members are not educated enough to judge what's good for them
- Just sharing your thoughts and feel obliged to open a new thread even though the exact thing was mentioned probably 7450 times in last 2 days.
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Oh you poor thing. You had to read my post. Sorry for that. Have a cookie. It will make you feel better.
The POINT of this post is to go on record so hopefully someone from Samsung can see it, and realize that they are hurting their fan base. There are now dozens of articles now talking about this, but without giving it a voice from individuals, Samsung may continue down this path. To try and silence this with a broken record image is pointless and doesn't help the discussion. But thanks for taking the time to write that all out.
On another note, this was just tweeted: https://twitter.com/aadetugbo/status/572446586938232832 (reddit discussion here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2xpld4/one_explanation_on_why_the_s6_has_no_sd_card/ )
"Another of the hidden benefits - this type of RAM. The amount of RAM - 3 GB, the system will not work in 32 and 64 bits. In December 2014, Samsung launched the industry's first production of mobile memory chips LPDRR4 density 8Gb (20 nm process). This technology allows to produce memory chips up to 4 GB, currently available chips 2 and 3 GB (8 and 6 Gbit chips). The maximum data transfer rate of this type of memory is 3.2 GB / s, that is twice higher than the chip rate DDR3, used on the PC. Such a data rate of the following tasks - recording 4K for an unlimited time, simultaneous recording of HD-video on the front and rear camera, continuous shooting at a resolution of 20 megapixels with no limit on number of images. Also, the use of this type of memory is a partial explanation for the rejection of memory cards. Why so? It is because by using slow memory cards, many operations can be problematic, and have main memory can be occupied with user data. Normal users will not understand what the problem is, because there is free memory, which means a bad phone and manufacturer".
I still don't find this explanation acceptable. Especially using 4K, the internal memory will be filled. If I was going out for a day and shooting videos, I would love to have the option of shooting 4K to my internal and moving these videos to my external card as my internal filled. And normal users will not have a problem understanding why the memory is slower as not every normal user would buy an external memory. And those that do, can have a simple pop up on the screen when the phone sees the memory that states that there may be issues or slowness due to this memory.
If you have a Note5, give us your first impressions and thoughts about the device. Tell us about the display, sound, feel, camera, quality or whatever else comes to mind. If you've had any problems, we'd like to know about that too.
Unboxing pics are encouraged
Thanks!
I thought there were a couple other threads like this already going on. here's one...
'For the ones who ACTUALLY have the device'
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3183298
I personally love it. it's got its niggles, but it is what it is.
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Several active threads already going on about all of these things. Reading is fundamental!
Dr. Evo said:
Several active threads already going on about all of these things. Reading is fundamental!
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Yes, this is the problem. Most device forums have one roll-up thread for user reviews. We don't need a new thread each time someone buys the device. It clutters the forum and makes finding information difficult.
tallazzPilipino said:
I thought there were a couple other threads like this already going on. here's one...
'For the ones who ACTUALLY have the device'
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3183298
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This thread has an ambiguous title and seems to be only for the OP's benefit, so it keeps sinking to the bottom as people ignore it and start another thread unnecessarily.
I have a question here :
When popping up Aircommand menu does it works with finger while clicking on any app or not ?
But how is it in the hand without any cover? Is it not slippery as....?
Advice is needed whether to buy Samsung Galaxy Note 5 or Samsung s6 edge. All suggestions are welcome
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Advice is needed whether to buy Samsung Galaxy Note 5 or Samsung s6 edge. All suggestions are welcome
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The S6 edge is great if you want more looks and it's a better party trick kind of phone. The Note 5 is much more functional, has the S-Pen, bigger screen, a battery that will actually last a full day, and an extra gig of ram (meaning less aggressive app killing). If you want a party trick type phone, get the edge. If you want a functional phone, get the Note 5.
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My only real design issue involves point 3 in this thread by @zeesh86. I don't consider myself a fatfinger (maybe just like a little sausagy-fingered), but I was opening, moving, and deleting apps regularly on accident. I'm blaming it on the rear curved sides and smaller distance between the screen and side of the phone. Less bulk means my grip overlaps the sides and my fingers touch the screen. I ended up having to lock the apps (Nova Launcher) because it was such an oft occurring issue; however, since adding a case (and not even a bulk one) it's no longer a problem.
Pros
- big display with good colors
- powerful CPU (altho i read it gets hot and performance is questionable)
- Stylus
- nice camera (http://echostorms.net/camera.png)
- fast charging
Cons
- no removable SD card
- no removable battery
- locked bootloader (verizon and AT&T), making it difficult to root, and prevents fun stuff
- heavy KNOX hardware
- uses 75%+ of the 4GB RAM when nothing is running (just like the Galaxy S6)
- advertised as octa-core, but actually 2 quad core CPUs. Probably because one is at 1.5GHz while the other is 2.1GHz, bigger numbers = higher sales, so hide the fact that one is slower
unfortunate to say, but iOS > Android
I could probably come up with more pros/cons, but these first that came to mind.
i did a camera test earlier today, records at 1440p? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYu-5LPWPy4
Own it. Love it. I've never been happier in a mobile device.
Screen is gorgeous, sound is loud for a cell phone, the feel in the hand is great as well. The curved back makes it easy to hold. If you don't have your thumb centered the fingerprint scanner won't read. Fast charging is amazing too. Have 15 minutes? Boom Extra 20-25% of juice. I've noticed that this phones battery life is better than my previous Note 4, 3, 2 and any other device I've owned. Coupled with the fast charging and wireless charging it's a breeze. If I don't remember to charge my phone overnight--no problem. Charge it real quick while I get ready for work and I'm usually at 100%
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If you don't have your thumb centered the fingerprint scanner won't read.
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That can be remedied by moving your thumb around a bit when registering your fingerprint. Sure you can't just use the corner of your thumb, but as long as your covering most of the button, it shouldn't matter whether it's centered or not if you've recorded enough of the print.
I didn't want to create a new thread for this but don't know exactly where to express this sentiment.
Today my brother bought an AT&T Galaxy S6. It's still on 5.0.2. That really worries me for my AT&T Note 5. How long does AT&T take to update their devices? How long has 5.1 been available while a flagship device on AT&T is stuck on 3+ month year old software? Will we ever see Marshmallow on AT&T?
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I didn't want to create a new thread for this but don't know exactly where to express this sentiment.
Today my brother bought an AT&T Galaxy S6. It's still on 5.0.2. That really worries me for my AT&T Note 5. How long does AT&T take to update their devices? How long has 5.1 been available while a flagship device on AT&T is stuck on 3+ month year old software? Will we ever see Marshmallow on AT&T?
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AT&T notoriously takes longer than other carriers to send updates. Been like that for ages.
My list of Ps and Cs coming from an iPhone 6+ and Oneplus One
Pros:
-Battery life has been very good
-Camera takes quality photos and video
-Voice calls are clear
-Phone has a relatively small footprint, so the size is not unwieldy
-s pen works very well, no issues
-s pen integration with the note is a very cool feature and high up on my nice-to-haves
-Screen is gorgeous and easy to read in daylight, I've compared to the iPhone 6+ screen for fun and text looks sharper and most pictures and video look sharper.. there are times the iPhone looks better for certain games that I'm sure were not optimized for the higher resolution
-FAST CHARGING IS REAL and is freaky fast!!!
Cons (very small issues):
-Occasional lag when scrolling... after using Oneplus One and iPhone 6+ it's hard not to notice a few glitches here and there when scrolling pages, especially pages with a lot of rich media; but it's hardly noticeable and I've already gotten used to it, disabling some of the bloatware definitely helped, I'm confident of that.
-Bluetooth is inconsistent when connecting to my Samsung soundbar, which sucks because it's the only device in my house that can't connect. I need to play around a little bit to figure out why.
-Bloatware, bloatware, bloatware
Overall, if I was asked to rate this phone I would say 10/10 compared to other phones in the same class.
Some experience about my note 5
I was tempting by the charging cloud
Actually, Samsung do some innovation on Note 5. I love the glass body very much. Fast wireless charger inside was truly a great progress, which made me want more!!
foulmouthedruffian said:
That can be remedied by moving your thumb around a bit when registering your fingerprint. Sure you can't just use the corner of your thumb, but as long as your covering most of the button, it shouldn't matter whether it's centered or not if you've recorded enough of the print.
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:good::good::good:
Hey guys! We have a new section here in the Note5 forum, it's kind of experimental. It's a place where you users can rate and review the many different facets of what makes a device unique like maximum (and minimum) screen brightness, app launch speed, speakerphone quality, and more. Check it out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/review
My mistake of buying Note 5
Oh Lord how I miss having an SD card.
I've never had problems with deleting old stuff off of my phone this is the first time I had to delete stuff of my phone.
On bright side- it helps me stay on top of things but now I gotta continuously monitor storage.
Even now i'm down to free space 2 gb lol
Apparently S7 has sd card in it again- so I'm guessing Note 6 will have it too. Not sure if I'd get it or not but it's nice to see Samsung is going back on track.
What do you guys miss?
Oh Lord I miss the sunlight, it's been a long depressing winter here.
On the brighter side 110gb on onedrive , 17gb on Google drive, plus you can use a OTG drive. My Note 5 has 64gb too !
I miss my dog too, he died and my wife has left me What am i gonna do now?
I have been trying to figure out what my next phone will be, and dreading the possibility of having to crawl back to apple. My choice is through my company. It's either a samsung, a blackberry, or an iphone. I currently am still on the s5. If they truly do bring back the micro SD on the s7, I cannot wait to be a happy owner. If not, I am torn. Please make the right decision samsung.
The rumor of the MicroSD slot returning is definitely one that caught my interest. Plus the fact that they are supposed to be working with Google to improve TouchWiz makes things sound even better. I am interested in the S7 with al the rumors going around, but I still want to see what the other companies have to offer before I make my choice.
Given my choices, the decision will be easy, assuming the micro sd card returns. I personally would also love to see the return of remove-able battery, but I can live without that. Whatever phone I wind up with, is going to go right into a protective case, so the solidness and elegance of the build is of little importance. Nice, but for me, form is trumped by function. The S6 was too much of an iPhone wannabe. I'd rather get an iPhone. The ability to expand storage on a phone that is also highly customizable, that is what I love about my S5. It is like having a phone that is also a highly powerful computer. I can sync with my home pc remotely, pull files over to myself, etc. These are features you lose with iPhone without jailbreak, but there are things IPhone does better than Samsung. It would be a real toss up. The return of the sd feature alone, would make my decision for me.
Well, the choices you have right now make the S7 an easy choice, but remember this is a new year and therefor new phones from other companies later on. With the Snapdragon 820 in effect now I rather wait a few months to see what happens even though I do like the way the S7 is looking.
Yeah, despite how much I hate the idea of a phone without replaceable battery, if the S7 comes with SD, that will probably be enough to upgrade from my S4, which is actually still plugging along nicely. I was all set to get an S6 until it was released, but losing both battery & storage cost them a sale.
I'm really leaning towards the S7 if they have the return of the sdcard slot. I'm currently using the Note 4. But I also want to see what the Note 6 has in store as well. If they do indeed decide to put back in the sdcard and have better battery life then I"m all in. But thats almost 7 months away, not sure if I can hold off that long...lol.
Bigger battery & Quick Charge 3.0 (I assume this will be present with the SD820) should make life easier, but I much prefer having extra internal batteries to a bank, & not looking forward to either plunking down a big chunk of change to have the battery replaced or having to buy a new phone when the battery inevitably loses its ability to hold a charge. Fully powering off in case of a bad ROM flash looks like another potential issue, but it looks like almost all manufacturers are going that way in exchange for having a pretty exterior, which I don't give a CRAP about.
I will wait to see what note 6 brings. I still keep my note 4. I can't justify "upgrade" to phone without sd card, non removable battery, lack of infrared port and hdmi out. All those features I regularly use
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Bigger battery & Quick Charge 3.0 (I assume this will be present with the SD820) should make life easier, but I much prefer having extra internal batteries to a bank, & not looking forward to either plunking down a big chunk of change to have the battery replaced or having to buy a new phone when the battery inevitably loses its ability to hold a charge. Fully powering off in case of a bad ROM flash looks like another potential issue, but it looks like almost all manufacturers are going that way in exchange for having a pretty exterior, which I don't give a CRAP about.
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So true. Who cares how the phone looks. It is nice to have a slim, aesthetically appealing phone, but I would take an extra mm or 2 thickness for an extra 300-500ma on the battery any day, and having a remove-able battery is important when your phone crashes and you need to completely shut the thing off. Function trumps form, though form can be cool, just know that a case is going to minimize the cool day 1.
On my S5, when it occasionally crashes, holding down the power button for 7 seconds does nothing for me. I have to remove the battery to shut the dang thing completely off. I am curious if this is also true on the S6, and if so, what they heck users do when their phone crashes? Wait out the battery drain?
Return of SD Card is crucial. My company pays for the minimum phone, and don't allow us to chip in for upgrades, which means if I want to use a company phone (free phone), I am stuck using the lowest storage option. 32gb ain't going to cut it. Removable battery would be nice, but not a deal breaker. Return of Waterproof would be killer as well, again, not a deal breaker. When I search leaked features on the web, it seems as though return of sd card is a done deal, though I cannot find an original source. Anyone know if this is true? Fingers crossed...
I've seen many rumors about SD, but there's a good chance we won't know until the official announcement. I can grudgingly accept the battery situation, but unless they offer a 256GB variant, lacking SD will be a deal killer for me.
if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)
More excited about waterproofing coming back, micro sd is icing on the cake. Reason I didn't give up my S5, one its rooted and running custom rom and runs smooth and slick, but loved the water resistance, even taken vids and pics underwater and they actually come out real nice lol.
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if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)
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There is not even a remote chance of that happening.
It's almost certain according to leaks that Edge will have 3600mAh, regular S7 will have 3000mAh.
Any way to estimate if the Edge with the larger battery (and larger screen) will have significantly better battery life than the S7 with its 3000mAh and smaller screen?
If the Edge was say 20% longer, I'd consider trying it out. Don't love phablets, but do love battery life.
I think SD card expansion option really needs to be considered. Modular design is way to go.
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Any way to estimate if the Edge with the larger battery (and larger screen) will have significantly better battery life than the S7 with its 3000mAh and smaller screen?
If the Edge was say 20% longer, I'd consider trying it out. Don't love phablets, but do love battery life.
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Batterylife on Edge will be better in standby, simply because of larger batteries. But in benchmark tests which only checks on-screen time, they will be neck-in-neck.
Batterylife (if everything else remains equal) is dependent surface area of display.
Area ratio = (5.5/5.1)^2 = 1.16
Battery ratio = 3600/3000 = 1.20
Edge version will give you better standby, in actual usage, on-screen batterylife will be almost same.
All variants of the device are said to come housed in a black frame, with a choice of black, white, silver or gold finishings, and the disagreeable camera bump is apparently now gone from the rear of the device.
On the subject of the camera, the sources both confirmed that Samsung has dropped the megapixel count from 16 to 12, and the f-stop is now a very appealing 1.7. Samsung plans to market the camera as being extremely adept at taking night shots, thanks to the lower aperture number, increased sensor size and dual-photodiode technology, which you can read more about in the camera section at the bottom of the page.
The pair of sources also confirmed that the S7 will be dust and waterproof, will house a hybrid dual SIM slot, returning support for microSD cards, up to 200 GB, and will have an increased battery capacity – all things that had previously been rumored.
The size, resolution and a number of other S7 specs were confirmed through another leak coming via. The leak comes in the form of a photo of a presentation slide, showing the S7 as part of the evolution of the S series.
On the slide, the device is given a 5.1-inch screen with 1,440p resolution, a 12 MP BRITECELL camera, 4 GB RAM and the Snapdragon 820 or Exynos 8890 processor. None of this is new or surprising, but it does begin to set long-running rumors in stone.
musiclover7 said:
I have been trying to figure out what my next phone will be, and dreading the possibility of having to crawl back to apple. My choice is through my company. It's either a samsung, a blackberry, or an iphone. I currently am still on the s5. If they truly do bring back the micro SD on the s7, I cannot wait to be a happy owner. If not, I am torn. Please make the right decision samsung.
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It's not a rumor. It's 100% true. I got to play with one for a few minutes this week. It's a slick little device, a noted evolutionary, rather than revolutionary, improvement over the S6.
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if the rumors of a 4500mah battery on the Edge and a Snapdragon 820, version, I'll possibly go back to Samsung. (dumb question: about the kernel sources, who would be the one to release it? Samsung or Qualcomm?)
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What rumor of a 4500mAh battery? I have never once heard that, and there's no way in hell they'd almost double the battery size.
Its 3500 on S7 Edge version, 3000 on S7
I felt completely alienated as a Samsung fan when they announced the S6 and S6 edge last year. I thought that they had abandoned the ideals of Android to focus on appealing to current iPhone users. With the absence of the micro SD slot, removable battery, and IP67 rating, I saw it as a major downgrade from the S5. This was all to simply make the phone look better aesthetically.
I couldn't see why Samsung would willingly kill off so many of the features that sets it apart from iPhones.
What used to separate Apple and Android is beauty and simplicity vs. functionality. With the S6, Samsung turned the notoriously functional Galaxy line into Android's iPhone and made the war against Apple beauty vs. beauty.
But with the S7, Samsung has become the first phone manufacturer to successfully merge beauty and functionality. No more compromising.
The specs say it:
Powerful processor (SD 820)
Great battery (3000 mah S7 / 3600 mah S7 edge)
Micro SD compatibility
Waterproof
There has never been a phone that is this beautiful spec wise. The closest was the S5, but it seemed like that progress was completely derailed after the S6.
The only spec that we are missing here is a removable battery, which is not a huge issue with 3600 mah or even 3000 mah.
I believe that the S7 will be the first smartphone to completely satisfy many users (or at least me). Even without an unlocked BL, I think that this is the perfect Android phone.
The perfect Android phone is a Nexus.
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The perfect Android phone is a Nexus.
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Could not disagree more... But each to their own. I LIKE a lot of the features TouchWiz and samsung apps being. Stock Android is lacking.
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* No USB-C
* No new design
* Touchwiz hasnt been improved from what I read
* Samsung sucks at updates.
Seems like a decent phone but not anywhere near 'perfect'.
If only they used something other than glass on the back then it would have been close to perfect.
I saw that 12MP is just 4:3, 16MP was 16:9 i hate 4:3.
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I saw that 12MP is just 4:3, 16MP was 16:9 i hate 4:3.
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9.1 MP 16:9 lol.
gekkehenkie11 said:
* No USB-C
* No new design
* Touchwiz hasnt been improved from what I read
* Samsung sucks at updates.
Seems like a decent phone but not anywhere near 'perfect'.
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New Design is not a requirement to be a better phone. The S6 was a good phone, samsung had no reason to radically change it. If anything they probably would have just made it worse.
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*No removable battery.
glass back is stupid, no matter how you drop your phone you break the glass on back, front or both, if you put it in case, what's the difference if it was cheap, easy to replace plastic? Anyhow, very happy Samsung came back to it's senses and made flagship a flagship, but then after last year releases , anything is improvement. I guess they saved usb c/3 and removable batt. for next year?
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glass back is stupid, no matter how you drop your phone you break the glass on back, front or both, if you put it in case, what's the difference if it was cheap, easy to replace plastic? Anyhow, very happy Samsung came back to it's senses and made flagship a flagship, but then after last year releases , anything is improvement. I guess they saved usb c/3 and removable batt. for next year?
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Pretty sure that removal battery isn't coming back. From what I see, most users don't care much for it either. I really don't, I'd rather have all day battery endurance than a skimpy battery that I have to swap out.
Battery is sealed. In a year'ss time it will only hold the equivalent of 2500 mah depending on use, so it would be s6's level, but in 2 years time it can be as low as the equivalent of 2000 mah which is very little for 5.1 inches.
Sealed batteries are a liability to those that hold on to a phone for 2+ years. For everything else I agree, it seems an interesting phone and since Qualcomm is back we'll prolly see some development too...
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I really don't, I'd rather have all day battery endurance than a skimpy battery that I have to swap out.
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You won't in a year to two, lithium batteries degrade. That's the basic use of removable batteries, they're easy to replace when they degrade. Also S5 had a 2800 mah battery. It's possible for a replaceable battery not to be skimpy.
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I feel I get cheated having those 3 bottom buttons on the screen. Samsung is the only one making real physical buttons. Thats why it cost more.
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* No USB-C
* No new design
* Touchwiz hasnt been improved from what I read
* Samsung sucks at updates.
Seems like a decent phone but not anywhere near 'perfect'.
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like the design, don't mind micro USB but touchwiz and updates are issues for sure. I also think the glass back is the biggest downside... having said that this phone is very close to perfect and that's coming from a longtime nexus user.
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Battery is sealed. In a year'ss time it will only hold the equivalent of 2500 mah depending on use, so it would be s6's level, but in 2 years time it can be as low as the equivalent of 2000 mah which is very little for 5.1 inches.
Sealed batteries are a liability to those that hold on to a phone for 2+ years. For everything else I agree, it seems an interesting phone and since Qualcomm is back we'll prolly see some development too...
You won't in a year to two, lithium batteries degrade. That's the basic use of removable batteries, they're easy to replace when they degrade. Also S5 had a 2800 mah battery. It's possible for a replaceable battery not to be skimpy.
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Well I agree, it sure would be nice to have replaceable batteries, especially when it comes to reselling phones. It's just I don't see it happening. I can't ever imagine Samsung making a modular design like LG did or going with a plastic removal back again. On top of that the number of people supporting removable batteries just aren't a significant number these days.
No doubt lithium ion batteries degrade, it's one of the few reasons I upgrade my phone every year. (I know most people hold onto their phones for longer, but I'm one that loves having the latest thing.)
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* No USB-C
* No new design
* Touchwiz hasnt been improved from what I read
* Samsung sucks at updates.
Seems like a decent phone but not anywhere near 'perfect'.
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The design is a year old, you can't redesign your phone every year.
The updates are well worth an upgrade in my opinion.
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Here it is short, sweet, and to the point. I have had EVERY single popular android phone since the HTC g2 and this honestly seems to be the best overall phone that has ever come out. Sure you might not like touchwiz, but why? Because everyone else says they hate it? Put a theme over the top and be done with it. Also how is a glass back a bad thing? I have yet to see any s6 with a cracked back. Never thought I'd say this but I can't wait to get rid of my 6p and switch over to a s7 edge!!
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Here it is short, sweet, and to the point. I have had EVERY single popular android phone since the HTC g2 and this honestly seems to be the best overall phone that has ever come out. Sure you might not like touchwiz, but why? Because everyone else says they hate it? Put a theme over the top and be done with it. Also how is a glass back a bad thing? I have yet to see any s6 with a cracked back. Never thought I'd say this but I can't wait to get rid of my 6p and switch over to a s7 edge!!
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I'm excited as well but "on paper" the druid turbo was the perfect phone. And..it was not lol.
My biggest worry is memory management. Hopefully fixed on the S7.
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Battery is sealed. In a year'ss time it will only hold the equivalent of 2500 mah depending on use, so it would be s6's level, but in 2 years time it can be as low as the equivalent of 2000 mah which is very little for 5.1 inches.
Sealed batteries are a liability to those that hold on to a phone for 2+ years. For everything else I agree, it seems an interesting phone and since Qualcomm is back we'll prolly see some development too...
You won't in a year to two, lithium batteries degrade. That's the basic use of removable batteries, they're easy to replace when they degrade. Also S5 had a 2800 mah battery. It's possible for a replaceable battery not to be skimpy.
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Who...the hell...keeps a phone, especially on this site, for 2 years? Or even 1 year considering lease programs out now (ie. Jump, Next, Edge).
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Who...the hell...keeps a phone, especially on this site, for 2 years? Or even 1 year considering lease programs out now (ie. Jump, Next, Edge).
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I think you'd be surprised how many keep their phone for 2 years and even more... Also XDA members.
These cheap lease contracts you talk about aren't available everywhere.
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Who...the hell...keeps a phone, especially on this site, for 2 years? Or even 1 year considering lease programs out now (ie. Jump, Next, Edge).
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I do. As well as my parents.
What's going to be the better phone?
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I was actually waiting for the N7, but grabbed this to test out for a little bit. If you compare the 2 devices, they are very similar. N7 is a touch bigger at 5.7, has the stylus and is waterproof. Obviously the Z has mods and is thinner. I really like the Z. It's built very well and I like the vanilla android experience much more than TouchWiz. Also, if the N7 has same OS battery drain as the S7e, I will shoot someone!! This battery is fantastic!! I think the N7 shooter will probably be a little better, but the Zs camera is pretty darn good. I may just keep the Z over the N7. But I need to see a ton more mods if that's the case.
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Can you comment more on battery? I had note 5 and s7 and I couldn't stand the random battery drain
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I would say Force. I have the s7 edge seems s7 will be a larger one. It really is personal taste. Grab one and see when it comes out. I found so. E lag still on my edge so far no lag and beautiful screen.
For me the Force is just SOLID.
I have been using Samsungs for the past few years and was going to wait for the Note 7 but the Z Force got me. Battery drain on Samsungs are a joke...and even Samsung couldn't tell me why. My wife's Note 4 would get twice the SOT as me and we got ours at the same time.
I like the big screen of the Note but never really used the SPEN.
Don't get a Samsung Note.
As an owner of two Samsung Galaxy Note 5 devices - they are of suspect quality. Not to mention an exploding battery on my prior Galaxy S4 and a max of 3 metres wifi on my S3... The Note 5 has terrible battery life, even once debloated and rooted with custom kernels - in comparison to my old LG G2. (not to mention it's laggy compared to than that phone)
After having my 2nd N5 in my pocket while traveling to the states, two purple dots appeared and have almost entirely consumed the screen after a couple of days. The terrible customer support in the states won't even fix it as it was not purchased in the US - no **** I'm on holiday Samsung. >_>" These Samsung devices have caused me nothing but grief.
LG and Motorola on the other hand sell much better devices in my opinion.
I have a N7 and a Z Force and short story. N7 is for sale on craigslist.
N7 is slower. Noticeably slower. I get better battery life on the z force and it charges faster.
All and all Moto z is a superior phone. Now the nay Sayers will chime in with this on how its better.
S pen. Screw the s pen
Retina scanner. It sucks and it is a gimmick. Its not secure you can trick it with a proper image. And it takes longer
to unlock. Its a step back from a fingerprint.
Better Camera. Z's camera is just as good you just need to have a steady hand and know how to use the manual controls.
Feels good in the hand. And it does. But that glass scratches almost as easy as the plastic screen on the z. Same goes with the back. It will need a case and a screen protector on it from day one or it will be scratched to high hell.
Water proof. Well i dont use my phone as a fishing lure. And moto's have the water repelling nano coating so im guess it will do just as good when you get the accidental dunk in water.
The N7 is a nice phone. But it fails to bring anything new and exciting. It fails in holding up under normal use. The coating on the screen is very thin and scratches way to easy. Battery life is bad and if you want to use the always on display well my N7 will suck up around 8% of the battery on that. They should of did it like moto's
The note is what it is now. And thats basically an iphone. Its hip and trendy but is stale and has no real innovation. Nothing to wow anyone. Fan boys will defend it to the end saying its so smooth. No its a laggy turd that requires nova launcher and settings changed just to make it smooth. And my N7 was not installing any apps either its touchwiz. Not as bad as before but still laggy and it will never not be laggy.
Want a phone that people will know what it is and say uhhhhh ahhhh he has a note 7. Then go note 7. Want a s pen go note 7. Want a phone thats a improvement over a s7 edge go note 7. Its a s7 edge refinement. But if you want a phone that has a future go Moto z. You want a phone with shock and aww go moto z and slap on a projector mod. Want a phone that you can change to your needs go moto z. Want a phone that gets great battery life and charges at 6amps. go moto z.
Moto z has a future with moto mods. The note 7 what you buy now is what you get. It will never be better. But in a year who knows. With your moto z you might be able to pick up a mod that offers 2 more sd card slots that raids them. Or pick up a mod that allows you to use a m.2 or msata ssd. Maybe a rear eink display. With the z out of the box you get the smoothest fastest android phone out. But you also get a future for your phone with mods. Who knows what can come out but there can be some amazing mods that can transform the z. Maybe a solar panel mod that offers a thin mod that gives you a little trickle charge for the days you do not need a battery mod. Need better wifi? How about a high gain wifi adapter. Thats what makes the z exciting you have something to look forward to.
I had a mod dev kit here. Im working on a mod right now. "i work with electronics" Still getting a feeling for it. But The mod im working on will house a SD or Micro SD card. Have a usb type c port and battery. This will let me transfer files from my phone to my pc using the mod like a portable harddrive. It will also let me toss in another 250gig sd in it and get some battery life. After i finish this then i will see about putting in some stand alone wifi for wireless transfers that will use the mods battery to power it. I can see why people are not really excited about the mods. They just see what are already made. But working with electronics i see the dev kit and i flip out at having phone with a perforated board so i can start prototyping circuits.
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I think the N7 shooter will probably be a little better,
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Actually it's not.
I did some testing and the Z Force has better saturation and marginally better detail zoomed in. Seeing all the the S7 vs Moto Z comparisons I thought the N7 would blow the Z Force away.
The choice in phones comes down to preference. I dislike Samsung but the N7 is a pretty good phone. Every feature they could cram in there is in there too. That makes is slightly slower than the Z Force.
This is actually the first time I've had a device beat my wife's in benchmark testing. The Note 3 actually tested better than my LG G4!
I was going to check out the Samsung phones, but I had the original Moto X and I just love the Moto software.. close to stock but with the nice touches like the Moto Display and the gestures (with young-ish kids, the twist to get to the camera is a godsend). I've heard mixed reviews on the Samsung flavor of Android and in the end, I just decided that I just needed to get the Z Force in my hand to make sure I didn't totally hate the feel, and I didn't.
bignazpwns said:
Water proof. Well i dont use my phone as a fishing lure. And moto's have the water repelling nano coating so im guess it will do just as good when you get the accidental dunk in water.
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My daughter killed her 1st gen moto x with the nano coating with a dunk in the toilet. I would say the motos are light rain resistant, probably.
Based on everything I've read, I made the jump from Samsung Fan Boy to the Moto Z Force TODAY! I believe I'll be happy.... after I make the necessary adjustments!
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Based on everything I've read, I made the jump from Samsung Fan Boy to the Moto Z Force TODAY! I believe I'll be happy.... after I make the necessary adjustments!
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Love my z,.The projector is the shizznit..Speaker is good..Great to know all the mods can get software updates too..Hope for more mods other than a camera mod...Just don't use camera at all..I've gotta get used to no root and Roms ,
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