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Hi guys,
I'm just a little curious. I've been lurking over the Xperia for a very long time now (ever since it was announced). I've read that people are having cracks all over the phone, even from people who have had the phones for as long as 3 months.
Why do people still purchase the phone knowing that the problem exists? Why blindly fork over so much money?
Oh, and by no means am I a trying to start a war or anything, I'm just curious. I've really been wanting to get this phone for such a long time now, and I'm really rather disappointed that Xperia's build quality is just crap.
What are your thoughts?
Cheers.
dude, there is a thread started by me.
In tat i say taht i threw my phone in a fit of rage, and it bounced off the floor, and hit two walls before falling down again. and alas, the slider is loose, but i can get it fixed. Other than that, no cracks, no broken lcd, no nothing.
And by the way, mine is a 08w44, this is the production batch everyone's having trouble with. So if my phone can come out with flying colours outta the torture i put it thro, i would say the build quality is good overall.
well it depends on what "crap" for you means, for your standards for a phone. But generally I would say people look these into a phone but not limited to:
1. Feature
2. Design
3. Advantages
4. Price
as for me I bought the phone not knowing the crack until 2 days that the phone is already with me and I'm looking at this forum for apps and custom stuff. You may consider things that Xperia can upset you but by far, its still the king of the hill.
with a few disappointments though, I still love the phone, and starting to hate the service.
The ones having problems with the phone are the ones that complain.
That's normal.
The ones without problems have no need not complain.
So don't think that a thread where all the cracks unite is representative for the whole series. Even a fraction of users have these cracks. Of course, that's still too many, but there is no need to be afraid of buying this phone because of this issue. The chance to get of a faulty one is very low.
Only a couple of production batches were affected with this issue
I've had 3 xperias sofar and none of them had cracks
What's more: IMHO, even a cracked xperia would be better than an Iphone or anything else out there
gtrab said:
Only a couple of production batches were affected with this issue
I've had 3 xperias sofar and none of them had cracks
What's more: IMHO, even a cracked xperia would be better than an Iphone or anything else out there
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A cracked xperia X1 is a far better option than a cracked iphone 3g... (every batch of them seems to crack, same as their mac books)
Guys,
Thank you for your replies so far. I apologize, I guess I was wrong to be quick about assuming that a lot of Xperias have these problems. I still wish to get this phone, and have been bidding my time, hoping that the quality control will get better over time (perhaps HTC will change the materials or something).
Right now, I was wondering, are the cracks specific to colors (Black vs Silver)? Or are there issues on both colors anyway?
Also, which product batches are affected by this issue?
The problem is, if I purchase a gray market phone, say, from Amazon or something, and there is no warranty on it, and I do get a crack, how can I go about repairing the chasis?
Cheers.
Looking at the crack thread, it would seem that cracks were more common in the silver models.
throw mine on the floor yesterday and some1 accidently stepped on it. looks as new as when i bought it. and no problem at all.
Well
Looking at the cracks and their positioning it seems to me that the cracks seems to be due to a weak point in the design and some people just manage to break them. The one near the stylus I'm guessing happens because people are pulling it out at an angle and putting stress on the body, instead of taking it easy.
The one inside, by battery seems to be that theyre getting a "bending" force applied to them, back pockets anyone? sitting on them? Anyway, had mine a week, seems ok, dropped it a few times,no problems, got a crystal case on it now too for Xtra protection.
Will see how it goes after a while, but to be honest, if it does crack etc, i'm sure the provider would have to replace it?
Guys,
Well, if I buy it from Amazon, it comes with no warranty and it is an unlocked phone.
I also disagree that the price of X1a is the same as X1i. The reduced video capabilities should have affected X1a's pricing (which is why I am not even considering SonyStyleUSA).
Cheers.
gtrab said:
Only a couple of production batches were affected with this issue
I've had 3 xperias sofar and none of them had cracks
What's more: IMHO, even a cracked xperia would be better than an Iphone or anything else out there
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Whoa, I'd love to have one of your phone. Though without the crack in my case, I still liked my phone. By the way, since you got three phone I was wondering, when I borrowed my cousin's black Xperia, the arc slider seem just a little oo shaky compared to mine, hers rebounds a bit when sliding in and out. mine doesn't .Don't you notice any differences in your X1s?
PoisonWolf said:
Guys,
Well, if I buy it from Amazon, it comes with no warranty and it is an unlocked phone.
I also disagree that the price of X1a is the same as X1i. The reduced video capabilities should have affected X1a's pricing (which is why I am not even considering SonyStyleUSA).
Cheers.
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I don't know the laws in your country, but as far as I know, when you buy a new phone you always have warranty from the manufacturer as long as you have an invoice (bill?) for it.
Of course, you will have no provider where you can go, but sonyericsson itself has to be responsible.
I was wonder here if anyone has a similar story to mine or have any extra information they could share. I received my original Nexus 4 device in November around the release date. The first device I received was defect and had high battery drain and frequently overheated from minimal usage. So I asked for a replacement and when it arrived, that phone has a defective antenna and wasn't able to keep a connection with my service provider. Therefore, I had to send that phone back as well.
Google has already sent me 2 defective devices, most likely the fault of LG. I asked for another replacement and was told I would have it in 5 business days. After 5 days it never shipped, so I called them and was told due to the high demand in replacement phones, we did not except to go through our warehouse reserve so quickly and it will be 2-3 weeks till I receive my device.
Anyone else have this problem? How has Google dealt with it for you?
I haven't had one problem on this phone since I got it. granted it has only been 5 days. Been an awesome phone for me from the beginning.
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Only problem I had was the noise coming out of the top of my phone (front and back) and to be honest I didn't even notice it until someone made a forum post about it. On calls, I can barely hear it and voice calls are loud enough that i can still barely hear it. I will live with it as people received replacements and have yet to have a clean one. Doesn't really bother me tbh.
Enjoying the N4 very much
your first one was good i guess , most n4's have battery drain , by overheated u mean hot back or did it turn off due to being hot
yeah, the last batch seems to be much more reliable. everybody in an other german android forum, who recieved their new device a couple ago, seems to be very happy. no new issues reported so far.
this may sound strange but I think, you should be glad, they went through their warehouse reserve so quickly and got rid of the old unreliable devices.
Yeah I replaced mine for the buzzing noise but my new one has a clicking noise from the bottom plastic
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mkooner said:
I was wonder here if anyone has a similar story to mine or have any extra information they could share. I received my original Nexus 4 device in November around the release date. The first device I received was defect and had high battery drain and frequently overheated from minimal usage. So I asked for a replacement and when it arrived, that phone has a defective antenna and wasn't able to keep a connection with my service provider. Therefore, I had to send that phone back as well.
Google has already sent me 2 defective devices, most likely the fault of LG. I asked for another replacement and was told I would have it in 5 business days. After 5 days it never shipped, so I called them and was told due to the high demand in replacement phones, we did not except to go through our warehouse reserve so quickly and it will be 2-3 weeks till I receive my device.
Anyone else have this problem? How has Google dealt with it for you?
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From reading many other forums and articles around the web this seems like a problem with N4. Let's see if LG has addressed all these issues by now. We will have to wait for a few weeks to really know if the later batches are defect free.
Many are speculating that the Google stopped selling the devices for now until they address these issues. In the mean time they seem to be grappling with the volume of returned devices and fulfilling the replacements to customers.
There do seem to be a lot of issues but at the same time people with problems are going to be more vocal. I don't think stock issues should be linked to high defect considering we have no idea how much stock google has had on hand to begin with.
i think its more that people are doing RMAs for issues that are not really defects like the buzz sound from earpieces that ALL N4s have or even people who are coming form AMOLED phones and are doing RMAs for light bleeding even tho all N4s will have some level of light bleed cause its an LCD.
because of this there is no longer enough devices for people with REAL faults that prevent normal device operations.
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i think its more that people are doing RMAs for issues that are not really defects like the buzz sound from earpieces that ALL N4s have or even people who are coming form AMOLED phones and are doing RMAs for light bleeding even tho all N4s will have some level of light bleed cause its an LCD.
because of this there is no longer enough devices for people with REAL faults that prevent normal device operations.
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So why is the ear piece buzz normal? I can only hear it in a very quiet room when I put it to my ear.
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noobdeagle said:
i think its more that people are doing RMAs for issues that are not really defects like the buzz sound from earpieces that ALL N4s have or even people who are coming form AMOLED phones and are doing RMAs for light bleeding even tho all N4s will have some level of light bleed cause its an LCD.
because of this there is no longer enough devices for people with REAL faults that prevent normal device operations.
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I don't have the earpiece buzz or light bleed. Light bleed isn't a "grey" screen instead of pure black like I've seen some OLED people complain about, which I agree is ridiculous, but light bleed is when light actually bleeds out of an edge causing a non uniform display which is not an issue inherent to LCD. I get your point that some of the complaints are non-complaints and all phones nowadays seem to have a few months of growing pains, unfortunately.
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your first one was good i guess , most n4's have battery drain , by overheated u mean hot back or did it turn off due to being hot
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Hey guys. Finally said good bye to old champion Galaxy S2 and now on Nexus 4! Love the device. However, I'm in a situation where I need to decide if I should get a replacement or not.
- I do hear that buzz sound in earpiece (not loud though - sometimes its not there)
- Rattling sound -- it is related to lens I realize
Is it worth it to get replacement (given replaced device may be in the same boat lol). Lots of people are reporting these issues.
the buzz sound...I hope its not going to increase in future?
Rattling sound -- I don't really care about that. However, I do go to gym and run. Can it damage camera?
Let me know your thoughts
I hate restoring backups and configuring everything all over again. (including wasting the screen protector lol)
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Hey guys. Finally said good bye to old champion Galaxy S2 and now on Nexus 4! Love the device. However, I'm in a situation where I need to decide if I should get a replacement or not.
- I do hear that buzz sound in earpiece (not loud though - sometimes its not there)
- Rattling sound -- it is related to lens I realize
Is it worth it to get replacement (given replaced device may be in the same boat lol). Lots of people are reporting these issues.
the buzz sound...I hope its not going to increase in future?
Rattling sound -- I don't really care about that. However, I do go to gym and run. Can it damage camera?
Let me know your thoughts
I hate restoring backups and configuring everything all over again. (including wasting the screen protector lol)
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The rattling in the camera is normal. Auto shutter or some **** that moves. Its normal. The buzzing is not. Some have them some don't. If you can't ignore it replace it. You paid for a phone don't buzz so don't put up with it unless you don't feel its a big deal.
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searing_heat said:
Hey guys. Finally said good bye to old champion Galaxy S2 and now on Nexus 4! Love the device. However, I'm in a situation where I need to decide if I should get a replacement or not.
- I do hear that buzz sound in earpiece (not loud though - sometimes its not there)
- Rattling sound -- it is related to lens I realize
Is it worth it to get replacement (given replaced device may be in the same boat lol). Lots of people are reporting these issues.
the buzz sound...I hope its not going to increase in future?
Rattling sound -- I don't really care about that. However, I do go to gym and run. Can it damage camera?
Let me know your thoughts
I hate restoring backups and configuring everything all over again. (including wasting the screen protector lol)
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I bought my phone on launch day. I feel like my buzzing has become worse over time. And it gets worse the fewer bars I have (I recently traveled to a different state with worse coverage and the buzzing became annoying and would get worse right before it dropped a call). I'd consider RMAing it. However, even the new ones have the problem, as you can attest to. I'm probably going to RMA my phone at some point, I'm just lazy.
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I got replacement device and it still has the same issue!! even worse than the original one. So disappointed I love nexus but can't keep up with this week after week replacement.
will be sending device back for refund. Ahh what other phone is next. Not sure lol wait for S4 or try Z10
The rattle you hear isn't the camera.
It's the little thing you have to press to eject the simcard.
If u eject the simcard you can put a little piece of paper or something like that behind it and it stops rattling
Do this at your own risk!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8tMMV880Lk
If the issues are actually affecting you then get a replacement, Google send you the replacement first before you actually send your defective unit in so you dont have to worry about being without a phone.
I bought an N4 last year when they first came out. I had to send it back because of a number of issues with it, and I'd just like to know if they were ever solved? I'm very interested in the N5 when it comes out, but to say I'm apprehensive of buying another LG device would be a bit of an understatement.
1. My device had a constant squealing/buzzing noise coming from the speaker at all times. It was a known fault on these forums at the time. Did LG ever solve this in later batches of phones? Did anyone have a phone with this issue and just keep it, if so how is it now?
2. Awful washed out screen - my device just looked like cr*p. I guess this is something that could maybe have been solved with software? Was it ever?
3. Poor touch response - my N4 wouldn't register swipes properly, in fact it was almost unusable. Was this resolved?
I have to say that I'm not knocking the phone - aside from these issues it was a great phone (well, apart from the glass back and meagre 16GB storage, but those things were intentional, as opposed to poor components/manufacturing/software).
setspeed said:
I bought an N4 last year when they first came out. I had to send it back because of a number of issues with it, and I'd just like to know if they were ever solved? I'm very interested in the N5 when it comes out, but to say I'm apprehensive of buying another LG device would be a bit of an understatement.
1. My device had a constant squealing/buzzing noise coming from the speaker at all times. It was a known fault on these forums at the time. Did LG ever solve this in later batches of phones? Did anyone have a phone with this issue and just keep it, if so how is it now?
2. Awful washed out screen - my device just looked like cr*p. I guess this is something that could maybe have been solved with software? Was it ever?
3. Poor touch response - my N4 wouldn't register swipes properly, in fact it was almost unusable. Was this resolved?
I have to say that I'm not knocking the phone - aside from these issues it was a great phone (well, apart from the glass back and meagre 16GB storage, but those things were intentional, as opposed to poor components/manufacturing/software).
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1. You speaker must have been defective.
2. This is Google's colorimetry for the Nexus 4, it can be fixed by flashing a tweaked kernel.
No idea about 3. I usually don't have a problem with swipes, but some apps such as Shuttle Music Player may be less sensitive than others.
setspeed said:
I bought an N4 last year when they first came out. I had to send it back because of a number of issues with it, and I'd just like to know if they were ever solved? I'm very interested in the N5 when it comes out, but to say I'm apprehensive of buying another LG device would be a bit of an understatement.
1. My device had a constant squealing/buzzing noise coming from the speaker at all times. It was a known fault on these forums at the time. Did LG ever solve this in later batches of phones? Did anyone have a phone with this issue and just keep it, if so how is it now?
2. Awful washed out screen - my device just looked like cr*p. I guess this is something that could maybe have been solved with software? Was it ever?
3. Poor touch response - my N4 wouldn't register swipes properly, in fact it was almost unusable. Was this resolved?
I have to say that I'm not knocking the phone - aside from these issues it was a great phone (well, apart from the glass back and meagre 16GB storage, but those things were intentional, as opposed to poor components/manufacturing/software).
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It sound like you are knocking the phone. It very well may be the best value on the market today. I never experienced any of those issues and neither have the friends of mine who happen to have the same model.
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Hello,
so as a user of Xperia Z2 I have my rights to complain. This phone is nothing but amazing when it comes to functionality but sucks at build quality. My phone has a gaps around the frame of the display. At top right there is a small gap, on bottom left and on the left of the phone. These places, especially the gap in left side of display, collect dust and other trash. Also the USB flap is popping off all the time dispite having been cleaned and replaced by polish warranty service, propably because the phone's frame has a little arch in there. Also back of the phone had a bit of a move. It has been replaced by afore mentioned service and it does not sqeak anymore when pressed but the top of frame of the phone has been scratched in the process.
So my experience with service has been quite bad. They did replace back and USB flap(so they say but taking into the account it has had dust on silicon seal when I received it I am not so sure) but it left a scar on the phone. So the flap is popping off anyway, making phone not waterproof and annoying.
Now I would like to point out that I use magnetic charger so the port has not been opened too many times actually. Also sending the phone off for repair is not an option now because it will take them another 3 weeks time to repair it.
To be honest I wrote this to scare off some potential Sony buyers because build quality simply is not too good or at least make them check their new phones thoroughly and return if they are flawed.
HugePotato said:
Hello,
so as a user of Xperia Z2 I have my rights to complain. This phone is nothing but amazing when it comes to functionality but sucks at build quality. My phone has a gaps around the frame of the display. At top right there is a small gap, on bottom left and on the left of the phone. These places, especially the gap in left side of display, collect dust and other trash. Also the USB flap is popping off all the time dispite having been cleaned and replaced by polish warranty service, propably because the phone's frame has a little arch in there. Also back of the phone had a bit of a move. It has been replaced by afore mentioned service and it does not sqeak anymore when pressed but the top of frame of the phone has been scratched in the process.
So my experience with service has been quite bad. They did replace back and USB flap(so they say but taking into the account it has had dust on silicon seal when I received it I am not so sure) but it left a scar on the phone. So the flap is popping off anyway, making phone not waterproof and annoying.
Now I would like to point out that I use magnetic charger so the port has not been opened too many times actually. Also sending the phone off for repair is not an option now because it will take them another 3 weeks time to repair it.
To be honest I wrote this to scare off some potential Sony buyers because build quality simply is not too good or at least make them check their new phones thoroughly and return if they are flawed.
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Sorry for this bro
My xperia z2 i buy in Brazil,is perfectly build,no gaps no flaps coming out,i buy in pré order,i might be Lucky,ask for a total replacement if you have warranty, it might help
Got no buildproblems with my z2 that was bought back in September, but there could be some z2 with build quality issues as indicated by the op
you could post your problem here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2744197 + telling your batch number. If people from the service made any damage to your phone you have to complain about it and ask for a new device since it was not your fault... its kinda late now i guess.
I myself have always used Samsung phone in the past until this year when I got the Z2 after many hours reading and watching reviews. Never once did a read or watch a bad review regarding the build quality of the Z2.
For me, the Z2 totally outshines my previous Samsung phones on the build quality site of things. It totally feels like a premium device to me.
I have similar issues as well. Flaps pop out repeatedly after cleaning and replacement. Had gaps in phone, which caused water damage...
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Plain Water said:
I have similar issues as well. Flaps pop out repeatedly after cleaning and replacement. Had gaps in phone, which caused water damage...
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One of the reasons that gaps open itself (if they are clear with no dust in it) is the pressure in the phone that is coused in situations for example like in your pocket and you run/bend.Thats why when you drop it to the ground the flaps are opening to release the pressure.The water test which is provided in the menu of the Z2 have the same way of working as well - pressure determinate that if the phone is sealed and ready for a swim when you bend it abit. :highfive:
my Z2 has gaps in the corners on both front and back side
can it be waterproof with the gaps?
HugePotato said:
Hello,
so as a user of Xperia Z2 I have my rights to complain. This phone is nothing but amazing when it comes to functionality but sucks at build quality. My phone has a gaps around the frame of the display. At top right there is a small gap, on bottom left and on the left of the phone. These places, especially the gap in left side of display, collect dust and other trash. Also the USB flap is popping off all the time dispite having been cleaned and replaced by polish warranty service, propably because the phone's frame has a little arch in there. Also back of the phone had a bit of a move. It has been replaced by afore mentioned service and it does not sqeak anymore when pressed but the top of frame of the phone has been scratched in the process.
So my experience with service has been quite bad. They did replace back and USB flap(so they say but taking into the account it has had dust on silicon seal when I received it I am not so sure) but it left a scar on the phone. So the flap is popping off anyway, making phone not waterproof and annoying.
Now I would like to point out that I use magnetic charger so the port has not been opened too many times actually. Also sending the phone off for repair is not an option now because it will take them another 3 weeks time to repair it.
To be honest I wrote this to scare off some potential Sony buyers because build quality simply is not too good or at least make them check their new phones thoroughly and return if they are flawed.
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You just describe exactly what is happening with mine. Just the same issues.
Quite sad that Sony can't give you a well built phone for this price...To be honest after having Desire 816 for 3 weeks in the meantime as Sony was being serviced I started regretting that I didn't buy M8. It would be **** specwise compared to Sony but the build quality is just marvelous...Or wait for Z3. I think I could call myself Sony fan some time ago but now I am not so sure. Will have Z2 in mind when buying next phone in 1.5 year time.
Not trying to offend anyone but I believe that a great bunch of us XDA members are extremely anal about our devices.
Every device I've owned has had people complaining about the most minor of issues that no regular users ever hear of.
"MY PHONES CAMERA IS 0.01MM AWAY FROM BEING CENTRED, IS SONY FOR REAL, HOW COULD THEY DO THIS, BLAH BLAH"
I bought my Z2 being incredibly happy with the build quality and i still am.The metal/glass body is exceptional in terms of build quality. Compared to the plasticy build of the G3/other devices, our phone is amazing.
The issue is more of a quality control issue but the thing is that the "issues" we have are so very minor. The gaps form no actual issue, same with off centred camera (that i know of), the flaps popping off is an actual issue but i dont personally know anyone who has had this happen to them, only a few xda users. (Probably due to the constant opening for flashing purposes/other purposes)
Sending it back should fix it, and if it doesnt then send it back again.
Also, all phones have issues. Look on any other phone forum. Our phone is actually better off when compared to others in terms of quality control.
hi guys i want to buy this phone soon and i just wanted to check if the build quality issues i read about are real or not
1) do the flaps really pop up on their own? and if yes what has caused them to do so?is it a manufacturing error?
2) i read about some camera issues with not starting from lockscreen
3) some devices has reported that because of the size of the phone the device has suffered from cracks and niggles caused by the pressure while in pockets?
and please if u can give me your overall experience with the phone and should i buy it or not
p.s : i'm coming fro htc one m7 but the m8 is too expensive and i want to try sony now
thanks in advance to all
super-user2.3 said:
hi guys i want to buy this phone soon and i just wanted to check if the build quality issues i read about are real or not
1) do the flaps really pop up on their own? and if yes what has caused them to do so?is it a manufacturing error?
2) i read about some camera issues with not starting from lockscreen
3) some devices has reported that because of the size of the phone the device has suffered from cracks and niggles caused by the pressure while in pockets?
and please if u can give me your overall experience with the phone and should i buy it or not
p.s : i'm coming fro htc one m7 but the m8 is too expensive and i want to try sony now
thanks in advance to all
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1. Not for me, most problems are there with early batches which are harder to comeby now
2. Camera seems to launch fine from lockscreen although a rather large delay
3. The self cracking issue i cant realy tell, my device undergoes my fat behind sitting on it also being extremly hot to cold, i left it in my freezer one time at -30 celcius for a hr and its fine
alb3rtt said:
"MY PHONES CAMERA IS 0.01MM AWAY FROM BEING CENTRED, IS SONY FOR REAL, HOW COULD THEY DO THIS, BLAH BLAH"
terms of quality control.
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I agree with some of these issues arent realy issues
Ive had 4 Z2 replacements and i only had them replaced due to serious heating issues, large quantities of dead pixels and one if not both speakers being dead
Im happy with my off centre Camera and my dim led light and my single dead pixel
So Dear other users
If it doesnt affect your handling of the device its best to forget about it.
super-user2.3 said:
hi guys i want to buy this phone soon and i just wanted to check if the build quality issues i read about are real or not
1) do the flaps really pop up on their own? and if yes what has caused them to do so?is it a manufacturing error?
2) i read about some camera issues with not starting from lockscreen
3) some devices has reported that because of the size of the phone the device has suffered from cracks and niggles caused by the pressure while in pockets?
and please if u can give me your overall experience with the phone and should i buy it or not
p.s : i'm coming fro htc one m7 but the m8 is too expensive and i want to try sony now
thanks in advance to all
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1. Not for me. Probably extreme use/excessive opening.
2. Nope. Perfect here.
3. Well i personally havent had this happen. I have dropped my phone onto concrete without a case while running from my pockets and its still perfect with literally only 1 small not noticble mark on the corner so i doubt itll crack from pressure in your pocket.
Go for the z2. Its a great phone imho.
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Envious_Data said:
I agree with some of these issues arent realy issues
Ive had 4 Z2 replacements and i only had them replaced due to serious heating issues, large quantities of dead pixels and one if not both speakers being dead
Im happy with my off centre Camera and my dim led light and my single dead pixel
So Dear other users
If it doesnt affect your handling of the device its best to forget about it.
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4 Z2's?!?!? Holy sheet metal. Wow you are very unlucky. I personally have a 100% perfect no issues at all z2. If your current phone has issues, just keep returning it. I had 3 nexus 5's, all with various actual issues before i got a perfect one... then i water damaged it. Lmao
build quality issues can affect waterproofing?
maddboss said:
build quality issues can affect waterproofing?
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headphone port, gaps and speaker grill problems can potentially hurt the devices water resistance ability
alb3rtt said:
The gaps form no actual issue, same with off centred camera (that i know of), the flaps popping off is an actual issue but i dont personally know anyone who has had this happen to them, only a few xda users. (Probably due to the constant opening for flashing purposes/other purposes)
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Envious_Data said:
I agree with some of these issues arent realy issues
Ive had 4 Z2 replacements and i only had them replaced due to serious heating issues, large quantities of dead pixels and one if not both speakers being dead
Im happy with my off centre Camera and my dim led light and my single dead pixel
So Dear other users
If it doesnt affect your handling of the device its best to forget about it.
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so you're sayin that gaps can't affect waterproofing?
maddboss said:
so you're sayin that gaps can't affect waterproofing?
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Well the gaps and headphone port issues im not too sure realy.
Envious_Data said:
Well the gaps and headphone port issues im not too sure realy.
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anyway I'll try it sometime but I'm a bit scared about the gaps
maddboss said:
so you're sayin that gaps can't affect waterproofing?
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They dont. If you want to make sure that it is waterproof, go on the test if waterproof without water thread.