Nexus 4 High Defect Rate - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was wonder here if anyone has a similar story to mine or have any extra information they could share. I received my original Nexus 4 device in November around the release date. The first device I received was defect and had high battery drain and frequently overheated from minimal usage. So I asked for a replacement and when it arrived, that phone has a defective antenna and wasn't able to keep a connection with my service provider. Therefore, I had to send that phone back as well.
Google has already sent me 2 defective devices, most likely the fault of LG. I asked for another replacement and was told I would have it in 5 business days. After 5 days it never shipped, so I called them and was told due to the high demand in replacement phones, we did not except to go through our warehouse reserve so quickly and it will be 2-3 weeks till I receive my device.
Anyone else have this problem? How has Google dealt with it for you?

I haven't had one problem on this phone since I got it. granted it has only been 5 days. Been an awesome phone for me from the beginning.
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Only problem I had was the noise coming out of the top of my phone (front and back) and to be honest I didn't even notice it until someone made a forum post about it. On calls, I can barely hear it and voice calls are loud enough that i can still barely hear it. I will live with it as people received replacements and have yet to have a clean one. Doesn't really bother me tbh.
Enjoying the N4 very much

your first one was good i guess , most n4's have battery drain , by overheated u mean hot back or did it turn off due to being hot

yeah, the last batch seems to be much more reliable. everybody in an other german android forum, who recieved their new device a couple ago, seems to be very happy. no new issues reported so far.
this may sound strange but I think, you should be glad, they went through their warehouse reserve so quickly and got rid of the old unreliable devices.

Yeah I replaced mine for the buzzing noise but my new one has a clicking noise from the bottom plastic
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mkooner said:
I was wonder here if anyone has a similar story to mine or have any extra information they could share. I received my original Nexus 4 device in November around the release date. The first device I received was defect and had high battery drain and frequently overheated from minimal usage. So I asked for a replacement and when it arrived, that phone has a defective antenna and wasn't able to keep a connection with my service provider. Therefore, I had to send that phone back as well.
Google has already sent me 2 defective devices, most likely the fault of LG. I asked for another replacement and was told I would have it in 5 business days. After 5 days it never shipped, so I called them and was told due to the high demand in replacement phones, we did not except to go through our warehouse reserve so quickly and it will be 2-3 weeks till I receive my device.
Anyone else have this problem? How has Google dealt with it for you?
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From reading many other forums and articles around the web this seems like a problem with N4. Let's see if LG has addressed all these issues by now. We will have to wait for a few weeks to really know if the later batches are defect free.
Many are speculating that the Google stopped selling the devices for now until they address these issues. In the mean time they seem to be grappling with the volume of returned devices and fulfilling the replacements to customers.

There do seem to be a lot of issues but at the same time people with problems are going to be more vocal. I don't think stock issues should be linked to high defect considering we have no idea how much stock google has had on hand to begin with.

i think its more that people are doing RMAs for issues that are not really defects like the buzz sound from earpieces that ALL N4s have or even people who are coming form AMOLED phones and are doing RMAs for light bleeding even tho all N4s will have some level of light bleed cause its an LCD.
because of this there is no longer enough devices for people with REAL faults that prevent normal device operations.

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i think its more that people are doing RMAs for issues that are not really defects like the buzz sound from earpieces that ALL N4s have or even people who are coming form AMOLED phones and are doing RMAs for light bleeding even tho all N4s will have some level of light bleed cause its an LCD.
because of this there is no longer enough devices for people with REAL faults that prevent normal device operations.
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So why is the ear piece buzz normal? I can only hear it in a very quiet room when I put it to my ear.
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noobdeagle said:
i think its more that people are doing RMAs for issues that are not really defects like the buzz sound from earpieces that ALL N4s have or even people who are coming form AMOLED phones and are doing RMAs for light bleeding even tho all N4s will have some level of light bleed cause its an LCD.
because of this there is no longer enough devices for people with REAL faults that prevent normal device operations.
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I don't have the earpiece buzz or light bleed. Light bleed isn't a "grey" screen instead of pure black like I've seen some OLED people complain about, which I agree is ridiculous, but light bleed is when light actually bleeds out of an edge causing a non uniform display which is not an issue inherent to LCD. I get your point that some of the complaints are non-complaints and all phones nowadays seem to have a few months of growing pains, unfortunately.

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your first one was good i guess , most n4's have battery drain , by overheated u mean hot back or did it turn off due to being hot
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battery drain issue will be fixed next month by a patch by google

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[Q] Problems occurring in batches?

After reading all of the crappy review for the transformer, it looks as if 50% are happy 50% are not.
I am wondering if the problems are occurring in batches because I just ordered mine from American TV and it will probably be here tomorrow or the next day.
A lot of the problems I have found are from the batches that have already been purchased and I don't know what to think.
Two things:
When asus was first bringing these to market, it could the problems are coming from they just naturally skimped on manufacturing quality because they are so damn cheap. Or they had a bad batch to get them to market quickly.
Asus could also just had normal manufacturing quality before and NOW since there is a high demand, newer units may experience worse manufacturing quality. Or they could be better because they knew of the problems.
Hope its not too confusing, what do you guys think? Newer units = worse quality? Older Units = better than newer?
i think logically you could expect the first units to have the most problems, however, we dont know if asus had enough complaints, or realized that there are defects (if there are--aside from software side) to be able to retool and make changes during the assem process to produce better revised hardware.
I actually gave this exact topic a lot of thought a few days ago, i thought about everyones complaints and how it was hit/miss it seemed, and i wondered whether the people that are complaining were truly the "first" adopters and got REV 1 hardware. Obviously, since they are playing with the tab and most of us are anxiously awaiting its arrival i would assume it just may be the case. Heres to hoping that these little glitches were an easy fix at the factory level (but knowing how they operate i doubt its a simple/cheap/quick process, which makes me doubt that the tabs that me and you will receive this week will be any diff from the ones recieved by the people last week and the one prior. the time frame is just too small, but then again, anythings possible).
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i think logically you could expect the first units to have the most problems, however, we dont know if asus had enough complaints, or realized that there are defects (if there are--aside from software side) to be able to retool and make changes during the assem process to produce better revised hardware.
I actually gave this exact topic a lot of thought a few days ago, i thought about everyones complaints and how it was hit/miss it seemed, and i wondered whether the people that are complaining were truly the "first" adopters and got REV 1 hardware. Obviously, since they are playing with the tab and most of us are anxiously awaiting its arrival i would assume it just may be the case. Heres to hoping that these little glitches were an easy fix at the factory level (but knowing how they operate i doubt its a simple/cheap/quick process, which makes me doubt that the tabs that me and you will receive this week will be any diff from the ones recieved by the people last week and the one prior. the time frame is just too small, but then again, anythings possible).
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Definitely have to agree. My guess they are the same and it is so difficult for Asus to actually respond to problems and transfer a fix to the manufacturing of the units. The only real thing I am worried about is the light bleed/dead pixels.
Moreover, the problem seems to be 50-50 and my estimate came from the assumption that there is manufacturing quality loss through increase production speed to meet the high demand. I tend to believe this because of the poor quality control. I am assuming (after reading the post about the guy receiving a 2.2 model) is that they do perform screen quality checks, to a certain extent. Some may have just slipped out.
Lets just hope we get a solid model.
I tend to side with the second poster...it's all about quality control....how many get out the door without their defects being noticed OR....being flagged as a defect.
I've worked around assembly lines all of my life...25+ years and I can understand some defects got through unnoticed....but the question is: when were they noticed and what steps were taken to prevent the same issue from occurring again?
And the second point is valid also....speed equals a mindset of "this one little corner-cutting decision won't make that big a deal in the long run...."
Unfortunately, rushing things to market to fill orders at a breakneck pace means that issues are more likely to get by...that's a fact of life.
When cash is on the line...decisions get made that might not otherwise gotten made.
I hope mine comes today without the glaring errors that I've seen here...crossing my fingers...
My only real complaint is the light bleed. I know it isn't the only device that's had this problem. I remember when I was reading the Evo 4G forums it had a similar problem when it first came out and recently the iPad2 had light bleed issues too.
The light bleed isn't a huge deal, but it is distracting while watching certain tv shows and movies imo.
I've had 3, first one was the very first batch in the UK, arrived mid April or thereabouts. The next one was around the end of April and the the latest one I received around the 6th of May.
1) Mid April
Some lightbleed on 3 of 4 edges. Perfect screen in terms of pixels. Imbalanced speakers. No sleep of death in 2 weeks or so. No gap in glass.
2) End April
Terrible lightbleed. 14+ stuck pixels (I gave up counting). I think the speakers were imbalanced too. No sleep of death, but only used it for a few minutes. No gap in glass was noticed.
3) Start of May
Some lightbleed, probably akin to 1. Around 8 or so stuck pixels, seen on black screen. Perfectly balanced speakers. Had 1 incident of the sleep of death within 5 days. Glass does not fit perfectly on left hand side (gap of 1-2mm allowing dust inside and glass to be lifted by nail)
Had I known what would happen I would now gladly stick with the first! So, from this small sample it seems that in my case the earlier devices were better in some ways but not in others. We'd have to have a huge sample to be able to answer definitively. I still love the tablet though.
I have a first US batch version and it's fine.
This is why I just ordered the Acer. I got mine and had some light bleed. It got worse. The creaking got worse. Now there is a small piece of dust under the screen. It is not very noticeable except on white background but it worries me that in 6 days of ownership it is getting worse. I now see a dust spec under the camera glass.
The edges of all the ports are razor sharp and can take off skin.
I love the weight the price and the ups screen but the build quality is very disappointing. If it was only the light bleed from day one I would keep but I can't handle how much more has happened in 1 week of ownership.
I got a 32 DB Livonia using coupons from staples for only 40 dollars more than a 16gb Asus cost me. The screen in store was quite good. The build quality seemed much better and despite the added weight it seemed more comfortable. To hold given the curved shape. If availability were better maybe I would exchange my Asus but no stock around.
in the end I might just opt for the new galaxy tab as it seems to be most like the load in size and weight.
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Just received
I just got the TF in the mail today. It is nice.. but there are some drawbacks from the xoom that I miss.
Xoom felt nicer in my hand and had that led notification. But the screen on the TF is WAAY better.
I do have light bleed in small sections, not terribly noticeable. Speakers are fine. no dead pixels, yet. not really a creaky sound, just when I press harder than normal on the screen. No glass misaligned. I will seal up the beast with a vinyl cover. Screen is responsive, no probs yet.
A bit disappointed
I received my TF this Thursday and was so very happy. After unwrapping it I pressed the power button and I got nothing. I thought OMG it's not working. Then I thought, maybe they didn't have time to charge the battery. So I charged it. I checked on in within a hour and pressed the button and it came on. I began to play with it and realized that after the TF wasn't in use for more than 5 mins the power button whenever pressed didn't wake the TF up... SO i pressed and pressed.. nothing.. so I waited about 30 sec after a press of the button and it came on.. After going thur this over and over I figured it was a defect and I RMA'ed it. I'm hoping that they didn't just push out a product that will have a lot of issues...
Here's my two cents:
Got my TF from Fry's in LA on May 5th. 32GB don't know manf date.
For light bleed - minimal sround the left lower edge and upper right edge. Dark room, bright up full, about a 1mm bleed - very slight and almost unnoticible.
Running latest update with no issues, just updated again today with no issues.
Sometimes after a long sleep it won't power back up with the power button, so I press the vol down and pwr at the same time (shut down) and it shuts down and restarts fine...Seems a sw glitch.
Other than that it's an awesome machine!
Dock - arrived on the 12th. charged up fine, docked fine, no mouse, brick or other issues other than the backspace key is touchy (actually not touchy -takes some effort), but all other keys work well. I think I'll RMA it later depending on how many show in production (I can live with this for now).
Case - had to cut a small hole in bottom to allow charging while case is closed. Otherwise great.
I hope this helps.
BTW, I don't follow these threads too much, so if you need something please PM me.
I feel like I've said this before, but I'm honestly surprised to hear of all of these issues. Mine doesn't seem to have any of them. No gaps around the screen, the glass fits perfectly, the casing for the tablet seems sturdy and doesn't budge at all. There's very little noticeable light bleed, if any. I've never had anything like a "Sleep of Death". I couldn't be happier with the quality of this beast.
EDIT: I should mention I have a 32GB version that I purchased from TigerDirect on Wednesday, got it this past Thursday.
My tablet and dock were among the older units. I had only one instance of SOD and the green screen with the camera issue which has been fixed via firmware update.
The tablet itself appears to be of high build quality,the bezel is secure, no gaps around the screen seal, no dust,no dead pixels,very minimal light bleed that I had to actively look for.
no problems to speak of
eGoing on 2 weeks ownership using various each day.
The only thing a few times I've come back to an unresponsive unit. Then I just held power button down 10 seconds and then rebooted. I take that with a grain of salt.
But. I am not going to update software for another week or so. Until I read more positive reviews
Many problems with mine
I ordered mine from The Best Buy batch on May 22nd, and it came with a not-smooth not-particularly-responsive screen; it then got two light leak spots, the clock disappeared from the menu bar once, and it bricked when I ran the 3.1 update. I sent it back, but I wonder, are the screens really not as smooth or responsive as the Xoom or Acer A500?

[Poll] 10.1 Retail Build quality survey, please participate ...

Dear Galaxy Tab 10.1 (RETAIL) owners,
Please if you can participate on this survey.
Retail means the one you bought at NY June 8th and/or after June 17th.
If you have exchanged one, let us know what was the problem?
Hardware issue like screen bleed, cracking speaker noise, wi-fi issue, etc ...
Or probably functionality issue like bricked, boot loop, etc ...
With this poll, we could get a rough picture about how well the manufacture / production of Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (Retail version), Samsung QA, those kind of things.
None of the reported issues here.
Hi, thanks for your input.
Please if you can vote in the poll.
The poll options was created a bit late
cekle said:
None of the reported issues here.
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I've gone through a looooot of Android devices lately and I can honestly say this is the first one I have not had to exchange. I'm very impressed with Samsung.
Mine is perfect. I am impressed.
Exchanged mine 3 times.
First unit bought on June 15th in NYC had an "oil spill" effect under the screen in one spot.
Second unit - display light bleed in the lower left corner.
Third unit - dead pixel.
Last unit seems to be ok.
I had the "oil slick" issue under the glass...my new one is on the way so I'll respond to the poll when it gets here.
I had to return my first one because one of the edges was rough to where it seemed as if the paint quality was bad. My second one is perfect though!
Lol... the results from this poll is an exact reciprocal of the Asus Transformer polls.
I will be exchanging mine today. there is a bulge on the back where it looks like they forced the cover onto the device with a loose screw or worse a broken component.
Mmm ... I dont understand what you mean
akarol said:
Lol... the results from this poll is an exact reciprocal of the Asus Transformer polls.
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How bad was the edge?
zzz525 said:
I had to return my first one because one of the edges was rough to where it seemed as if the paint quality was bad. My second one is perfect though!
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Can you guys please explain how you found these issues I think we all want to check ours throughout. To find oil under the screen was the display off in order to see? Back light bleeding can you just check by pulling up a black image and making sure nothing is bleeding through?
So far mine is perfect I haven't noticed anyrhing!
Returned my first one. Was having lots of wifi problems. Got a second one and about 75% of the wifi problems are gone now and I think the other 25% of my wifi problems could just be crappy apps (Pandora and TuneIn Pro seem to really suck on my tablet).
I think I got a good tablet this time. But Android 3.x and app bugs don't make it easy to be sure. Haha.
So far, so good
Received mine on the 20th. It's a little early to make a judgment with a high degree of confidence, but no issues to date. Clean unit here.
I just got mine today, so im still checking everything out, but no issues so far. Exterior build quality looks good and no real software problems (had minor issue connecting to my wifi, but a modem/router reset fixed it).
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Exchanged mine twice.
First had light bleed. Second had screen separation. Hopefully the 3rd time is the charm.
I had the IO version and it felt cheaper and plasticky but this one is sturdier. This device has an even ring around it whereas the IO devices were thrown together test manufacturing models. No issues here.
I noticed the back of the tablet below the camera can be flexed in some. Not a big deal, but it felt kind of odd.
I was at the launch (of s2).here in dubai - about 2 devices had oil spill (mind you'll this was a demo unit - one was a 8.9 and other was 10.1)
I'm having double mind of shipping it in - i'll pick it when it's locally available
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Nexus 7 worth it with all the problems?

Is it even worth it? I mean with most of the people suffering from screen lifting, creaking,screen cracking easily washed out screen,screen flicker, dead pixels, screen burn-in/ghosting, LAG etc even with the replacements, seem to take the fun out of the tablet. I heard the replacements work for a few days and then start displaying the same issues.
What do ya'll think and suggest? Is the C8O the one to get or does that also have the same problems with it?
At this price point this is a steal but would still want an enjoyable tablet without the annoying problems.
Yeah, it's worth it - at least the 8 GB one is. I got it mainly to play with though. I have a XYBoard that I use for work. The issues are irritating, but it's not like I'm losing productivity. When I get home I put down the tool (XYBoard) and pick up the toy (N7)
Wait and see what Amazon comes out with tomorrow
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Most people have a nexus 7 that is fine. A lot of people on xda like to complain about small problems; however, they are a miniscule minority compared to the number of tablets that had to have been sold at this point. It does make these forums pretty boring imo. Mine has been fine since buying it at Gamestop the first day they sold it.
madhad said:
Is it even worth it? I mean with most of the people suffering from screen lifting, creaking,screen cracking easily washed out screen,screen flicker, dead pixels, screen burn-in/ghosting, LAG etc even with the replacements, seem to take the fun out of the tablet. I heard the replacements work for a few days and then start displaying the same issues.
What do ya'll think and suggest? Is the C8O the one to get or does that also have the same problems with it?
At this price point this is a steal but would still want an enjoyable tablet without the annoying problems.
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Maybe I'm one of the lucky few, but I haven't had any of the aforementioned problems. I am 100% happy with the N7 I received. I know it seems discouraging that a lot of people are having problems, but it's a great tablet.
The people suffering from LAG issues have there internal storage pretty full. From what I've heard it starts when you have 1-2gbs free space, I've never gone below 9gbs of free space.
I really love it but in really hate having to find one that doesn't have issues. Just got a replacement today and the same issue and is older than its a c60k but the one I had was the c80. If you can find one that has everything in check its awesome but these little defect are ridiculous. Asus did a terrible job with quality control. Not that every company doesn't but this is too damn widespread.
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What issues?
Had mine since the first shipment and have not seen any issues.Most likely it is just a few people that have any problems.Most of us got what they wanted and are very happy with it.Sure you see a lot of threads but it probably is not really that many people with issues since the same ones post of all them. I am sure google sold a lot more units than the few where we read about having issues.
You have to remember that complaints are like spilled oil.......doesn't take much to look like a real big mess!!!
I preordered mine from the Play Store. Had it rooted about 10 minutes out of the box and I haven't had one single defect!!! And I do believe that I am the rule rather than the exception. Keep in mind that Google is expected to sell five to six million of these things by the end of the year. And that's a lot of 7's!!
No problems with my 16gb C6O. Bought it last month. Use it every day!
Bought mine from a retail store 2days ago, in love with it even though its fairly new. Its an amazing device, its fast as hell, faster than my iPad 3. I also bought a one year warranty that covers pretty much anything for a year for just 50$. I would recommend anybody to do the same if they can, that way there's nothing to worry about.
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Not to be a dink, but couldn't you read one of the dozen or so other "should I get this/is it worth it" threads?
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Trust me alot of people make a mountain out of a mole hill when it comes to the N7. Its a great device don't let the people with OCD keep you from getting a fantastic device. As far as the creaking, its made of plastic kinda expected, colors being washed out? Compared to a amoled display, yes its washed out but you can't expect them to use a top notch display and keep the price @ $200.
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So the screen is supposed to be lifted and make ripples when I press on it? And the screen becomes unresponsive when it gets hot? These aren't mountains? Or its just me being to picky... the lag part is people being picky... people pointing out physical damage and defects are not being picky.
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veryy worth it
The nexus 7 is a very popular device that is being looked at thru a nano microscope. There are issues in some of the devices. But we see way more I love my nexus we see lots of support ..
I myself have a 8 gb with the screen lift issue. The reason i have not replaced it yet is because i had a 16 gb version delivered last week . Not 20 minutes after opening the box in my hand the screen crushed under my thumb. These things will happen to any device. The issue is how the company deals with these issues. I have noticed some Questionable i broke my my screen just broke threads. Really read them and you can kinda see the legit ones. This is a tough call for the Manufacture But we will hope they do the right thing..
SO YES ITS A AWESOME Device with questionable very questionable Quality Control.by a KNOWN 3RD Rate build partner..
If you buy one and have trouble REPORT IT quickly and get it replaces. When its said and done i bet there will be very small return numbers in comparison to the number of the devices sold...
Got mine Monday. I'm in love. Playing some Crash Team Racing for ps1 at a steady 60 fps.
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So the screen is supposed to be lifted and make ripples when I press on it? And the screen becomes unresponsive when it gets hot? These aren't mountains? Or its just me being to picky... the lag part is people being picky... people pointing out physical damage and defects are not being picky.
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First off dude did I say I was talking to you directly? Did I say everybody was making a big deal out of everything?? No I didn't. Im aware that some people do in act have issues. But when you have people who want the screen to look as good as a iPads, complain about the slightest amount of light bleed, get mad when a plastic device makes the slightest bit of noise when squeezed then that my friend is making a big deal out of something small. Its a $200 tablet. Try to find a tablet that offers more at that price point...
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madhad said:
Is it even worth it? I mean with most of the people suffering from screen lifting, creaking,screen cracking easily washed out screen,screen flicker, dead pixels, screen burn-in/ghosting, LAG etc even with the replacements, seem to take the fun out of the tablet. I heard the replacements work for a few days and then start displaying the same issues.
What do ya'll think and suggest? Is the C8O the one to get or does that also have the same problems with it?
At this price point this is a steal but would still want an enjoyable tablet without the annoying problems.
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All these issues are real enough. And I confess that I've kinda focused on them and let the issues bother me more than they should. But then I decided to just use the tablet, I even stopped reading this forum for a while and I'm really enjoying it and don't really notice the problems much anymore.
Yes, I have screen lift on the left side. While most of the bezel has a very tiny lip around the glass, on the left side the glass is just a hair higher than the bezel. I wish it wasn't that way, but it's easy enough to forget that defect is there if I'm not being reminded of it daily on this forum.
I've already tried a couple RMAs and have pretty much had the same issues with every replacement I've gotten. Except creaky bezel, haven't had that on any of my Nexus 7s, so I'm hopeful that's a rare issue that you won't encounter.
As for the washed out screen. There are two things going on here. Firstly playing many videos will cause the screen to look very washed out or over saturated while and after the video (though the video itself looks great). This goes away quickly on it's own after the video has stopped. If you are rooted there are automatic scripts you can install to disable the "smartdimmer" behavior causing the problem, which I have done. The other issue is the colors do look a bit washed out all the time. This is much more subtle and if you didn't have another tablet or phone to compare with you might not even notice it. I'm hoping Google can can fix this, but I'm growing doubtful that they will if they haven't by now. But I can live with the slightly washed out colors and the "smartdimmer" video issue is easy to fix ourselves with root access.
I don't think there is any screen burn in issue. I think some people mistake the ghosting for it. With the smartdimmer disabled I really don't notice the ghosting anymore. I think it's still there to a small degree, but minor.
I've not experience lag with any of my Nexus 7 tablets. With the exception of Chrome, seems like it should be performing better, it does very well in benchmarks. Not sure what the issue is, but the lag really isn't that terrible. While I find Dolphin much faster, I still use Chrome because I like the synchronization with my desktop and I still find it plenty fast for my needs anyway.
It's definitely not the best looking screen. But getting a pure Nexus experience and at only $250, I'm very impressed and pleased with my purchase. And this tablet is light and feels really good in my hand. So it more than makes up for the multitude of minor issues I've had with all of mine.
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First off dude did I say I was talking to you directly? Did I say everybody was making a big deal out of everything?? No I didn't. Im aware that some people do in act have issues. But when you have people who want the screen to look as good as a iPads, complain about the slightest amount of light bleed, get mad when a plastic device makes the slightest bit of noise when squeezed then that my friend is making a big deal out of something small. Its a $200 tablet. Try to find a tablet that offers more at that price point...
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Apparently I wrote that with an angry tone. What I was trying to point out is there is quite a number of people complaining about defects and that is what he is reading about. And when you say "oh its people making a mountain out of a mound hole" that is not true. I didn't mean to make it sound like I was pissed.
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Yes, it's absolutely worth it - pending you buy an extended/accidental warranty. I baby my devices, but that didn't stop my Nexus 7 screen from randomly breaking. Now I'm dealing with headaches from ASUS in an attempt to get it fixed. At this point, I don't see how you can purchase the Nexus 7 WITHOUT that sort of warranty.
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Yes, it's absolutely worth it - pending you buy an extended/accidental warranty. I baby my devices, but that didn't stop my Nexus 7 screen from randomly breaking. Now I'm dealing with headaches from ASUS in an attempt to get it fixed. At this point, I don't see how you can purchase the Nexus 7 WITHOUT that sort of warranty.
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Randomly breaking?

Thinking about picking one up tomorrow. Are defects really a huge issue?

The forums seem to be full of "Do you have defects?" posts, with tons of responses citing things like the screen being unattached from the case, dead pixels, auto rotate that doesn't work, a screen that is cracked even from a 2 ft fall, etc.
I'm just wondering if the devices they're shipping now are any different than the very first batch? Have they tried to fix any of these problems, or are these problems so rare that they're not doing anything about it? I hear that Google has a fantastic customer service policy as long as you get it from the Play Store and NOT Gamestop/retail, so I'll definitely be getting one straight from google.
Are these problems something I should worry about? Has Google done anything about them so far?
Thanks! I'm really excited to own this guy... hopefully no issues
They are NOT a huge issue. Remember that people with problems are much louder than those who are happy.
The biggest issue seems to be the slight screen lift on the left side of the screen. My device has it, but it doesn't bother me at all. And if the screen cracks in the future because of it, I will just get it fixed by Asus under the warranty.
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The forums seem to be full of "Do you have defects?" posts, with tons of responses citing things like the screen being unattached from the case, dead pixels, auto rotate that doesn't work, a screen that is cracked even from a 2 ft fall, etc.
I'm just wondering if the devices they're shipping now are any different than the very first batch? Have they tried to fix any of these problems, or are these problems so rare that they're not doing anything about it? I hear that Google has a fantastic customer service policy as long as you get it from the Play Store and NOT Gamestop/retail, so I'll definitely be getting one straight from google.
Are these problems something I should worry about? Has Google done anything about them so far?
Thanks! I'm really excited to own this guy... hopefully no issues
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Don't get all paranoid about issues with ur device lol, just look for screen lift and dead pixels. Other than that enjoy ur new tablet
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Nospin said:
They are NOT a huge issue. Remember that people with problems are much louder than those who are happy.
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+1
Made sure I got one where it is easy as pie to return and that was Walmart. So far mine has been great and I've had it a little over a week and I used it ALOT each day to make sure.
Coming from someone who's screen cracked in my hand, I still can't hold that much of a grudge against the N7. Lemons exist and always will, even in the holy iPad lineup. Just check your device when you pick it up (preferably from a B&M store for easy returning) and if it's good, carry on.
Granted, I'm still a little miffed at ASUS over the whole thing, as I had to really fight to get my tablet fixed, but it's done and almost here at my house. We'll see how the re-unboxing goes. :good:
(fyi, according to the watering hole a good chunk of the N7 complaints may have stemmed from Apple fanboys making accounts just to spam fake issues, seemingly to take credibility away from the N7... lame)
i was also very worried with all the bad news about the nexus 7 but after close examination i have found very minor screen lift but everything else has been perfect
my ipod touch had a creaky screen and my tf101 had some screen lift and creaking but nothing bad came of them.
be sure to fully check it for peace of mind if nothing else but most of all enjoy it and test everything good about it too

creaking noise

So how many of you hear creaking noise when slightly pushing the Sony logo on the back of the phone? Started recently with me for no reason. Otherwise no issues. I don't know if it's even worth exchanging it and getting one even worse (self cracking, etc)
I've only seen two threads about this issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/help/xperia-z2-clicking-sound-t2912920 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2747319
Did you buy yours sim free or did it come from the network operator.
It'll be interesting to know if the majority of users experiencing issues with build quality and quality control are sim free buyers.
That would suggest that Sony may be prioritising network operators sending the best batches there.
I've always got my units through the networks and have never had to replace any Sony phone I've had going back to my x10 and x10 mini which by the way are still working perfectly to this day.
I've heard reports over the years of varying issues with different models but have never experienced any of them. Could it just be luck or is there more to it than at first meets the eye?
One wonders!
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So how many of you hear creaking noise when slightly pushing the Sony logo on the back of the phone? Started recently with me for no reason. Otherwise no issues. I don't know if it's even worth exchanging it and getting one even worse (self cracking, etc)
I've only seen two threads about this issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/help/xperia-z2-clicking-sound-t2912920 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2747319
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Literally just noticed this now.
Doesn't bother me cause i use a flip case with my phone but if it does/eventually will affect my phones functionality, i will rma it
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Literally just noticed this now.
Doesn't bother me cause i use a flip case with my phone but if it does/eventually will affect my phones functionality, i will rma it
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Yeah same here I have case on it so I don't notice. Otherwise I don't have any issues with the phone
i tried now but didn't hear any sound .. if you can deal with the sound just forget it. i have 4 stuck pixels and didn't replace my phone
there is a more chance to replace the phone to another faulty one, maybe worse.

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