Hello.
this is my first time creating a new thread, so please bear with me if it comes off as a bit noobish.
i recently purchased an android mobile called UMI Zero. here are some specs for it:
OS Android 4.4
CPU 2.0GHz, Octa-Core, 28nm HPM
GPU ARM Mali-450MP4,700MHz
RAM 2GB
ROM 16GB
Camera Back, 13.0MP SONY IMX214 F1.8 stacked Front, 8MP
i was fairly impressed about the review of the camera, but when i got the handset, i was fairly disappointed to see that it did not have a proper camera app which would support 4k video, i looked into it further and found that there were some other mobile phones out there which were using the same 13Mp Sony IMX214 camera to make 4k video recording. so i looked for apps which would give this phone that capability but all i found were threads for LG G2 phones (kk handsets?) and how they would enable 4k video on it with the help of files from LG G3. this got me wondering if it was possible for the UMI Zero as well. i will appreciate any guidance in the matter. Thank you.
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Maybe...
Well, it's not the camera module that's holding it back, or the processor, so actually I don't know.
The MT6592T is cabable of UHD recording, so I'm taking a guess that it would have to be software, they haven't done the stock rom on this phone well at all - I mean after all the phone records in 3GP, in 1920x1088, so actually I guess there would be a way of going through some source code and modifying.
Good luck!
Here's the specs for the 6592
Octa-core (1.7GHz or 2GHz) ARM Cortex-A7 processor
ARM Mali GPU
UMTS / HSPA+ R8 / TD-SCDMA / EDGE / LTE
Dual-band 801.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth, GPS, FM receiver
Full HD display controller
16MP image signal-processor
H.265 Ultra HD video record & playback
woodsynzl said:
Well, it's not the camera module that's holding it back, or the processor, so actually I don't know.
The MT6592T is cabable of UHD recording, so I'm taking a guess that it would have to be software, they haven't done the stock rom on this phone well at all - I mean after all the phone records in 3GP, in 1920x1088, so actually I guess there would be a way of going through some source code and modifying.
Good luck!
Here's the specs for the 6592
Octa-core (1.7GHz or 2GHz) ARM Cortex-A7 processor
ARM Mali GPU
UMTS / HSPA+ R8 / TD-SCDMA / EDGE / LTE
Dual-band 801.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth, GPS, FM receiver
Full HD display controller
16MP image signal-processor
H.265 Ultra HD video record & playback
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hi!
thanks for the info dude. i thought that maybe after all this time, someone might have done some tinkering but there still hasnt been anything on it
i would have tried modding it if i had the proper knowledge and a secondary mobile. youre also right about the devs doing a crappy job on the firmware. the camera software is only good for taking pictures but is absolute crap for video recording.
calistoz said:
hi!
thanks for the info dude. i thought that maybe after all this time, someone might have done some tinkering but there still hasnt been anything on it
i would have tried modding it if i had the proper knowledge and a secondary mobile. youre also right about the devs doing a crappy job on the firmware. the camera software is only good for taking pictures but is absolute crap for video recording.
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The MT6592 SoC is capable neither to record nor to play UHD video. Its max capability is [email protected] Datasheet (edit: I can't post links yet)
That's a question why MediaTek shows UHD recording and playback on their own product page. (edit: I can't post links yet)
bencebacsi said:
The MT6592 SoC is capable neither to record nor to play UHD video. Its max capability is [email protected] Datasheet (edit: I can't post links yet)
That's a question why MediaTek shows UHD recording and playback on their own product page. (edit: I can't post links yet)
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i went ahead and looked for more details on the SoC for the mt6592 and it turns out that it can encode up to 1088 and decode 2160. so i guess it means that it can play back UHD videos but cant make them.
http://system-on-a-chip.specout.com/l/425/MediaTek-MT6592. it leaves me kind of disappointed seeing as how they have gone on to incorporate a really good camera with UHD capabilities and a F 1.8 lens only to be let down by the lack of support on the SoC.
Sorry for offtop (i don't want to create new thread).
Maybe some of you guys know where to buy side buttons fpc for umi zero or maybe someone have one? tnx
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The HD2's hardware (camera sensor, Snapdragon chipset, etc.) are capable of HD video recording, and other phones with almost the same hardware have it enabled (the HTC EVO 4G, for example).
Phones with lower-specced processing components, like the Samsung i8910 (ARM Cortex A8 at 600 MHz, PowerVR SGX530, Symbian), support HD recording as well. Even the ARM11-powered Samsung Omnia II on WM offers better video capture (even if not HD) than the HD2.
HTC says the HD2 can only record at up to VGA resolution due to a Windows Mobile limitation. Does anyone know specifically what the problem is?
I would love to hear the answer to this also, subscribing.
For what it's worth, I got another useless reply back from HTC after a few weeks (as expected):
It is a feature that was not requested by the carrier when the device was produced. We have no information on why this feature was not enabled on the device.
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I'd be curious to see if 720p recording can be enabled when Android is fully ported over to the HD2. The hardware seems capable and the EVO 4G supports it with nearly identical components (it does have the 8MP camera that the HD2 was originally slated to get, but even the HD2's 5MP sensor should be able to capture 720p I believe).
I'm just curious and want to know if the hardware in the HD2 is capable of higher quality video recording
OK so I have been looking at other phones with a 5MP camera and they can record video higher than 640x480.
One example is the N900. It can record up to 848x480.
Another example, the Droid can record 720x480.
Thx
Why are you posting multiple threads asking the same question (i.e., the other thread here)? You think someone will magically say yes?
For Windows Mobile, it is unlikely you'll see anyone develop any improved drivers for higher resolution video camera recording.
If you're unhappy with this fact, sell the phone and buy the phone that comes with the resolution you want to record at if video recording is so important to you. Didn't you even do your homework prior to buying the HD2?
I only asked if the hardware is capable of a higher resolution.
The hardware.
Read before you answer, ty.
scrizz said:
I'm just curious and want to know if the hardware in the HD2 is capable of higher quality video recording
OK so I have been looking at other phones with a 5MP camera and they can record video higher than 640x480.
One example is the N900. It can record up to 848x480.
Another example, the Droid can record 720x480.
Thx
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Do you really feel the HD2 video recoring its bad. I maybe used the recoring on my phone maybe 4 times in my entire life. The recording its above decent. There might be a hack for it but I doubt people actually dislike the quality of it
It's not so much a question of hardware as it is a question of software and drivers.
PoisonWolf said:
It's not so much a question of hardware as it is a question of software and drivers.
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Well it could be a hardware issue too. most camera sensors have a still picture mode and a video mode. If the video mode is only designed to do 640x480 then that's all your gona get. Sure an app may be able to be written to capture video frame by frame in still pic mode, but can the camera take pics that fast? does the sensor module to motherboard link have the bandwidth to do 5mpixel at 30fps? i doubt it. im guessing that the link between the module and motherboard is either an I2C serial bus or maybe just standard USB, Though in video mode the camera module itself might be doing the mp4 encoding, taking that workload off the CPU, if you tried to capture frame by frame, then your going to have the CPU convert either the raw data or jpeg data from the module into a video format.
I firmware hack or mod for the camera module might be able to enable say 720p video output from the module, but i find it doubtful that anyone is going to get their hands on that firmware and we dont even know if it is "field programmable"
Hi,
we can take photos in 3.2 megapixel, so why we can not record video in this resolution or in 1megapixel resolution?
this 3 steps maybe can work
3 easy steps
- if reason is weak processor speed? overlock it
- if reason is low ram? extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster
- custom recording app with modified recording resolution. or only change /data/local.prop (but not work for most phones)
True
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what a breaktrough!!! xD if it were that simple we would have 720p recording by now
ya.. it s possible.. but it just damn hard.. may b it needs to rewrite the vid rec driver.. :/
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erikkubica said:
Hi,
we can take photos in 3.2 megapixel, so why we can not record video in this resolution or in 1megapixel resolution?
this 3 steps maybe can work
3 easy steps
- if reason is weak processor speed? overlock it
- if reason is low ram? extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster
- custom recording app with modified recording resolution. or only change /data/local.prop (but not work for most phones)
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"extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster" ? ? ?
Really?
darksyde18 said:
"extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster" ? ? ?
Really?
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i think he meant swap partition..
Ever thought about this:
- sensor not good enought to record 60 (or even 30/15) Photos with 3,2 MP in one second
Every other camera also needs to lower the resolution when recording video. Thats not a question of processor speed or RAM.
rueolps said:
Every other camera also needs to lower the resolution when recording video. Thats not a question of processor speed or RAM.
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So...
what about this:
Apple Ipod Touch 4G
Camera
Photo: 0.7MP (960 x 720), It's VGA!
Video recording:720p 30fps, it's HD!
cadusir said:
So...
what about this:
Apple Ipod Touch 4G
Camera
Photo: 0.7MP (960 x 720), It's VGA!
Video recording:720p 30fps, it's HD!
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everything depends on the sensor......ours can handle higher res recording
but drivers need to be edited...
im trying to get a kernel with higher res but the drivers are tough and i have no
c++ experience...
darksyde18 said:
"extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster" ? ? ?
Really?
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Copied from android market:
SD-Booster speeds up your SD-Card (external memory-card) up to 40 times! Enjoy a new feeling of speed on your Android smartphone anytime and everywhere you are.
Starting apps, listing to your favorite music or just swapping data with your PC ? Whatever you do, the SD-Booster improve your phone speed!
SD-Booster needs root permission to run, otherwise SD-Booster can't do anything!
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I dont know this is really working but....
rueolps said:
- sensor not good enought to record 60 (or even 30/15) Photos with 3,2 MP in one second
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So try to record your PC desktop with 30fps in resolution 1280x1024 with PATA/ATA HDD and 2GHz processor (1 core) if your HDD is low it cannot save 30 images(frames) per second to your HDD without lag.
If processor is low for rendering 30 frames frames in 1280x1024 resolution into video file and if HDD is too slow to write it, it is Fail. so if in our mobile is possible to speed up read/write speed of sd card and is possible to overlock cpu from 667MHz to 1300MHz, increase the ram using swap, so hardware side is done.
I think it is possible to change /or create custom\ driver for camera and customize recording resolution to our phone.
Sensor is one, If it can capture photo in 3.2MP it can also capture 25 photos/frames\ per second in 3.2MP and render it into video file without lags.
But I think 3.2MP is too much for our devices hardware. So 720pixel is enough to record a pretty nice video.
im trying to get a kernel with higher res but the drivers are tough and i have no
c++ experience..
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I am only php developer so I cant help you in this :-\
you are talking about filmin a video in 3.2 megapixel?!?!? are you out of your mind? Good cameras and high end phones take video in 1080p - that is 1920x1080=2megapixels. You think our little phone can do better? Its not only about RAM, CPU, the drivers need to be reworked but there are always hardware limitations that can not be changed. I'll bet all my money that there is no possible way to get even 720p video with our phone. If we get vga (640x480) recording we can be very happy. That is really hard to do, it may even be impossible since that is 4 times the current quality and it probably takes 4 times more power from memory, CPU, GPU, RAM and 4 months of making new drivers.
ka'cipeder said:
you are talking about filmin a video in 3.2 megapixel?!?!? are you out of your mind? Good cameras and high end phones take video in 1080p - that is 1920x1080=2megapixels. You think our little phone can do better? Its not only about RAM, CPU, the drivers need to be reworked but there are always hardware limitations that can not be changed. I'll bet all my money that there is no possible way to get even 720p video with our phone. If we get vga (640x480) recording we can be very happy. That is really hard to do, it may even be impossible since that is 4 times the current quality and it probably takes 4 times more power from memory, CPU, GPU, RAM and 4 months of making new drivers.
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not in 3.2 in 720pixel
This theory could work, but I think we need a driver re-write. Not only that, but can our GPU even display 720p +?
erikkubica said:
not in 3.2 in 720pixel
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Someone was arguing about video in 3.2mp. Anyway, we can't even play 720p video without stutering, so recording is impossible. VGA could be possible however, lg p500 has vga recording with 600mhz CPU and better GPU, if we can get the CPU to do more job than GPU there is a chance. Unless the sensor just can't take it, then we are stuck.
ka'cipeder said:
Someone was arguing about video in 3.2mp. Anyway, we can't even play 720p video without stutering, so recording is impossible. VGA could be possible however, lg p500 has vga recording with 600mhz CPU and better GPU, if we can get the CPU to do more job than GPU there is a chance. Unless the sensor just can't take it, then we are stuck.
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we should be aiming for about 720x480 or close......
its a good res and our gpu should be able to handle it!
i can smoothly play dvd rips on mine without lag or anything at stock speed..
sensor shouldnt be a prob we just need a guy who is good with c++ knowledge
or driver writing experience....anyone?? if u need help with kernel i have successfully compiled a kernel from source and have all the necesary tools
It would be good if we were able to record in aac audio quality,and not like now - in amr.
What will give to us higher resolution if audio is horrible ?
GT-I5800 (Galaxy 3) Video Recording: increase please
Hello at all,
i use the DutchMods ROM V5.3 on my Galaxy 3. In my opinion it's a perfect firmware... but there is a thing: poor camera (Photo and Video). It don't change change from Samsung Stock one. Video has 320x240... a very poor resolution. I think there is some possibilities to increase the resolution to 640x480 (15 fps). The solution can be a post elaboration. When you save the video, the apk Interlace the photo or video. In this way you can have 640x480 video and more high megapixel in photo. The are very good routines for interlace (for example in N70 Nokia there was a program who shot 4 photos and build an high resolution photo using 4 low res photo). The same with video : 320x240 can be 640x480 video with less number of frames. It's a suggest for all custom firmwares.
Thank you at all.
Bye.
Jean-Luke
Talking is useless guys..
This is intended for Froyo
Records at 1920X1080 2mp
but video players decode it to a lower rate
unreal3000 said:
we just need a guy who is good with c++ knowledge
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of course , this is DAMN C++
erikkubica said:
if reason is low ram? extend it
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ARE YOU KIDDING ?
"I can see that SDbooster or whatever, even if it converts the r/w speed to 1TBps, its not to be used as a ram
SD card is a removable media, "if it can hold apps moved from the phone memory, IT IS MOVING. same for data and everything.."
but by no means it can be used as "Random Access Memory"
RAM is directly connected to the phone and it is permanent. Thats all a person can explain"
BTW, reason is the SCREEN RESOLUTION and LENS
rueolps said:
Ever thought about this:
- sensor not good enought to record 60 (or even 30/15) Photos with 3,2 MP in one second
Every other camera also needs to lower the resolution when recording video. Thats not a question of processor speed or RAM.
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I don't think that is a problem cause 25 FPS is enough right!!
Hi,
I believe that the Snapdragon 800 msm8974 CPU SoC used by the G2 supports video encoding up to 120fps 1080p video or 30fps 4K video. Indeed the Note 3 which also uses the Snapdragon 800 can record 4k. Whilst 4k recording isnt of much use at the moment, 120fps 1080p video would be!
Any thoughts on whether an app can be developed to tap into that functionality or would it require a firmware update from LG?
Thanks
Would love to know this as well
Is the camera even capable of it?
Bump! - ya, why did LG not include 120fps? the hardware fully supports it..
Im swapping my Note 3 for a G2 as soon as VZW drops the white one, and no 120fps kinda bums me out.
Bump again. I was reading a review on AnandTech and they said LG only enabled up to 1080p60 since the sensor can handle it. Does that mean the sensor can't handle 1080p120? What about 720p120? A friend of mine showed me the slow-mo on his 5s and it looked better than the slo-mo we can do on the G2, which I'm assuming is because of the 120fps. Would love 120fps, even if it's at 720p. It would be something I would root this phone for.
Slow mo?
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Slow mo?
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Yeah, what happens is that the video is shot at 120fps and he slowed the video down, similar to how we can slow play speed. The video is played at 60fps in slo-mo and looked a lot smoother and less grainy than the video on the G2.
I'd like to know too if our device(D802) can hande [email protected] as [email protected] is quite the same amount of data to process
aryan79 said:
I'd like to know too if our device(D802) can hande [email protected] as [email protected] is quite the same amount of data to process
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I've seen a modified camera app for the lg g2 here on XDA. The developer tried to make more than 60 fps and in the next version of the changelog he put it back to 60 fps cause LG "limits" the fps to 60. Too bad.
But he says that is an HW limit or it's limited by SW? :crying:
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But he says that is an HW limit or it's limited by SW? :crying:
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1) Back Camera Records 720P Videos @ 90 FPS. [Broken- Max FPS limited by LG is 60]
You can check it out at (V_2.5.6 EXPT_3 Details):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471900
LG G2 has Sony IMX135 sensor which support max:
1080p30 (HDR) | 1080p60 | 720p60
So LG is not blocking anything it is HW related thing!
The Samsung Note 3 that records 4k vids also has the Sony IMX135 sensor:
http://image-sensors-world.blogspot.se/2013/10/samsung-galaxy-note-3-features-latest.html
Anandtech is usually correct too:
"There’s an IMX135 sensor inside the Note 3..."
"On the video side of the Note 3 we have an interesting new addition, 4k30 (or UHD) video record support, alongside both 1080p60 and 720p120"
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/6
/EDIT
A mod for the Note 3 allows 4k recording up to 100Mbit!
Over 4Gbyte on exFAT cards, though not an option on the G2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519180
READ HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548974 :laugh:
Great news! Now we have to wait for KitKat
YES!!! Here in Italy the Vodafone branded phones(D802) have already reveived it. I'm waiting it for my nobrand D802 :victory:
It works on my D802 rooted! GREAT!!!
(Xdabbeb's 2.2.0 APK version)
So in this video I used a tripod which took some amazing video. But I also took 4k video while driving (I was not driving) and the camera did a good job at keeping a still video. There was still a lot of movement but it shows less in the video then there actually was. I captured mainly movement to see how the camera could keep up with it.
You can watch the video here:
blackout720 said:
So in this video I used a tripod which took some amazing video. But I also took 4k video while driving (I was not driving) and the camera did a good job at keeping a still video. There was still a lot of movement but it shows less in the video then there actually was. I captured mainly movement to see how the camera could keep up with it.
You can watch the video here:
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Wrong forum, S6 "edgers" not apply lol
Brava27 said:
Wrong forum, S6 "edgers" not apply lol
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True, but the camera is the same so it still goes for the S6 itself. Both phones are equal when it comes to camera.
Do you know if the 4k video was encoded with the native h.265 encoder rather than the older h.264? The exynos soc supports native h.265 encode / decode which should help with 4k video size.
testinguser said:
Do you know if the 4k video was encoded with the native h.265 encoder rather than the older h.264? The exynos soc supports native h.265 encode / decode which should help with 4k video size.
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Honestly not sure.
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Honestly not sure.
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Here is a utility that can show you details about your media file. Just point it to the raw video file that was generated by the s6. By the time it gets uploaded to youtube, it is transcoded so no way to tell the native encode format prior to the conversion on youtube.
One of the strong features of the new chips, including the 810 are it's ability to natively encode and decode h.265. This is remarkable as even intel chips cannot completely hw encode+decode the new format. The newer nvidia/amd cards are making progress towards h.265. So I hope you can appreciate that little device in your hands can do this. But whether it actually does and makes use of it is the question. I hope you indulge us.
The quality of the focus is amazing.
https://youtu.be/TCvKSexuzK4
Please see this thread for the continued discussion of this topic.