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[Info]Galaxy S4 is coming ...don't go for any other phone.

According to an article in Korea times ...s4 will be released in Feb 2013...so most of us who did not upgrade to galaxy s3 should wait about 6 more months to get the most powerful beast in our hands...
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2012/09/133_120024.html

This is to destroy the so fana iphone 5 benchmark im sure ,! But please not too big Samsung !
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If they go for anything larger than the S3 they can forget about me buying that.
S3's size is utterly ridiculous (can't find many people who can 100% interact with it with only one hand), anything larger that that will be just sad.
Only thing left is to pray to the electronics god that Google makes their next Nexus in the size of the current one / S2's! can't imagine a better phone size, bigger than the tiny iPhone (yea, talking about the new fella) but easy to play with using one hand only.
if only the'll be able to also make it Super AMOLED Plus (like the S2's non-PenTile, but with S3's resolution).

S4 might not have a screen larger than S3 since the current size distinction gives proper difference between the S and Note lines. If size goes beyond 4.8 will impact sales of either of them.
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The more I use my S2..the more I feel it's the perfect size. I had a GNex for a bit and it was just a tad too wide. I think something the size of the s2 with a edge to edge screen would be great.

Yeah then we wait for the S5 next year :banghead: and S6 the year after that
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S4? U kidding they have to dump a huge number of S3 into market.. After huge success of this they ll plan for S3 with Dual sim then when competitors move to hexa core or jump into 2GB RAM then they start S4 may be,,
My wishlist for S4-
1. Quad core 2GHZ preferably Tegra 3 .
2. 2GB RAM with nVidia GPU.
3. 4.3" Super AMOLED HD display with 720*1280 res (Enough )
4. Design of S2 is must( Best designed phone)
5. Aluminum casing for back cover with S logo.
6. 12 MP camera carl zeiss.. (Nokia Fan)

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Prashanthme said:
S4? U kidding they have to dump a huge number of S3 into market.. After huge success of this they ll plan for S3 with Dual sim then when competitors move to hexa core or jump into 2GB RAM then they start S4 may be,,
My wishlist for S4-
1. Quad core 2GHZ preferably Tegra 3 .
2. 2GB RAM with nVidia GPU.
3. 4.3" Super AMOLED HD display with 720*1280 res (Enough )
4. Design of S2 is must( Best designed phone)
5. Aluminum casing for back cover with S logo.
6. 12 MP camera carl zeiss.. (Nokia Fan)
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May I ask, why Nvidia GPU? I should say that most benchmarks say that our mali-400mp4 clocked at 266mhz is just as powerful as the full clocked tegra 3 gpu variant, plus we have a much lower resolution screen than any tegra 3 powered deice I have ever seen, meaning our device can end up playing better games that quite a few of the devices with the tegra chip in it. Like with full effects enabled on dead trigger, it is so much smoother than my nexus 7 with it's gpu overclocked from 416mhz to 520mhz. Personally I would take the overclocked 440mhz mali-400mp4 in the s3 anyday over any nividia GPU. Althoug, the gpu going to be used in some of the new exynos 5 chips which should power the s4, looks incredible.

Prashanthme said:
My wishlist for S4-
1. Quad core 2GHZ preferably Tegra 3 .
2. 2GB RAM with nVidia GPU.
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Pfff......The exynos 4212 and MALI 400MP still kicks tegra 3 a** and the S4 will have a exynos 5250 with mali t604 which is a total BEAST.

sahibunlimited said:
Pfff......The exynos 4212 and MALI 400MP still kicks tegra 3 a** and the S4 will have a exynos 5250 with mali t604 which is a total BEAST.
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Because I saw my friends Nexus 7 which played dead trigger more finely and smoother(Even mine was smoother ) so i thought tegra would be nice. Is S4 confirmed?

Like I give a ****.
Seriously, the longer I wait for Jelly Bean, the more I want a Nexus.
Besides that I hope they won't make the screen any bigger. Otherwise we'll run around with 11" smartphones and 17" tablets very soon.
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Prashanthme said:
Because I saw my friends Nexus 7 which played dead trigger more finely and smoother(Even mine was smoother ) so i thought tegra would be nice. Is S4 confirmed?
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Dead trigger is optimized from tegra 3 and the mali400 in s2 is a bit weaker from terga 3's gpu

TheSniperFan said:
Like I give a ****.
Seriously, the longer I wait for Jelly Bean, the more I want a Nexus.
Besides that I hope they won't make the screen any bigger. Otherwise we'll run around with 11" smartphones and 17" tablets very soon.
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Ya ur rite S2 is the Best screen size which fits perfectly in hand.. mainly robust Tablets max 10"

well samsung wants to keep a one year product schedule so its not news,but this reports states the phone will be 5 inches from 4.8, i wonder if the note will be bigger

According to Sammobile latest news, Samsung denied an S IV release in february or march. Link from source: http://sammyhub.com/2012/09/18/samsung-debunks-galaxy-s-iv-rumor/. Another link is http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_responds_to_galaxy_s_iv_rumors_debunks_them-news-4819.php

If someone released a 4inch Nexus with good hardware and a solid build I'd be all over it like a rash.
Instead the phones are getting too big and too ugly. I've never had an iPhone but I can see the appeal. You invest in an iPhone 5 now and you're guaranteed long term software support and your device maintains its value. I'm sick of all these phones coming out that feel outdated and forgotten in 6 - 12 months. Who do you hear saying "don't buy an iphone 5 the iphone 6 is coming out next year".

jackierobinson said:
If someone released a 4inch Nexus with good hardware and a solid build I'd be all over it like a rash.
Instead the phones are getting too big and too ugly. I've never had an iPhone but I can see the appeal. You invest in an iPhone 5 now and you're guaranteed long term software support and your device maintains its value. I'm sick of all these phones coming out that feel outdated and forgotten in 6 - 12 months. Who do you hear saying "don't buy an iphone 5 the iphone 6 is coming out next year".
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Sadly you're kinda right.
I've already made my decision. My next phone will be a Nexus, period.
I could forgive the longer wait for updates, if I'd actually use them. At the moment the only reason I'm waiting for updates is because the cm team can make a proper one with those.
There is only one manufacturer that does great modifications to android, but those phones aren't available here. :'(
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Hey Guys,
i was thinking about buying a new smartphone. Now that Samsung and HTC both have released their flagship device for 2013 I did some research and ended up with the Galaxy S3, the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy S4 in mind. I'm having some trouble to make up my mind about these smartphones. I compared them considering their performance. (excluded the S4 with octacore tho) and found out that basically performance benchmarkwise goes like this: S3> N4> S4.
I watched some video reviews as well and found out that these devices are pretty much equal in everyday performance. (opening apps and websites with maybe 1 second difference at most) The Nexus 4 stuck out a bit because unlike the S4 and S3 almost had no stuttering or dropped frames in the UI while even the S4 had a few.
So I'm not really sure whether the S4 is worth it for me, as I'm probably not gonna make frequent use of all the gimmicks and stuff. The 16 GB Nexus 4 is even a bit more expensive than the S3 now and the timely updates for the N4 are no dealbreaker for me as i will flash custom roms on the S3 anyway. The Nexus 4 however has no replacable battery and no sdcard slot.
Please correct me on these statements if they are flawed or simply incorrect.
Also I heard about the Snapdragon 800 and Nvidia Tegra 4 (maybe even the Exynos Dualcore of the Nexus 10 which is supposed to be released as Quadcore soon?) which are basically the next big thing when it comes to processors. I thought the S4 would make a HUGE jump (and the octacore version actually does) but it didn't. Now I wonder whether i should wait for the next generation of processors/smartphones. (I don't want to wait longer than Q4 2013)
I would appreciate your help a lot!

schnip said:
Hey Guys,
i was thinking about buying a new smartphone. Now that Samsung and HTC both have released their flagship device for 2013 I did some research and ended up with the Galaxy S3, the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy S4 in mind. I'm having some trouble to make up my mind about these smartphones. I compared them considering their performance. (excluded the S4 with octacore tho) and found out that basically performance benchmarkwise goes like this: S3> N4> S4.
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A little math lesson for you
the side with less goes here < the side with more goes here
the side with more goes here > the side with less goes here

Joe0Bloggs said:
A little math lesson for you
the side with less goes here < the side with more goes here
the side with more goes here > the side with less goes here
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thank you for cluttering the thread and posting bull****

Why are you disregarding s4's superior screen and resolution?

schnip said:
So I'm not really sure whether the S4 is worth it for me, as I'm probably not gonna make frequent use of all the gimmicks and stuff. The 16 GB Nexus 4 is even a bit more expensive than the S3 now and the timely updates for the N4 are no dealbreaker for me as i will flash custom roms on the S3 anyway. The Nexus 4 however has no replacable battery and no sdcard slot.
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Maybe you should wait for the "S4 Nexus" that will be released June 26th (if you live in the US, of course). It will aggregate the best in hardware and software and will come with an unlocked bootloader.
Between the N4 and the S3, if you're gonna flash a custom rom, get the S3 version with 2gb ram (without exynos). It has a removable battery and sd card slot which always helps.
Regarding the processors you've mentioned (Snapdragon 800 and Tegra 4), it doesn't matter much if the software is not optimized. Just look at TouchWiz, even with a brutal processor there are lags and stutters. IMO processors are powerful enough nowadays to provide a smooth experience in the UI and with games, but the software is not optimized and good enough to use all those cores wisely. OEMs further 'helps', clogging the system with bloatware.

pedrohz said:
Maybe you should wait for the "S4 Nexus" that will be released June 26th (if you live in the US, of course). It will aggregate the best in hardware and software and will come with an unlocked bootloader.
Between the N4 and the S3, if you're gonna flash a custom rom, get the S3 version with 2gb ram (without exynos). It has a removable battery and sd card slot which always helps.
Regarding the processors you've mentioned (Snapdragon 800 and Tegra 4), it doesn't matter much if the software is not optimized. Just look at TouchWiz, even with a brutal processor there are lags and stutters. IMO processors are powerful enough nowadays to provide a smooth experience in the UI and with games, but the software is not optimized and good enough to use all those cores wisely. OEMs further 'helps', clogging the system with bloatware.
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Thank you for the informative post
i have made similar experiences when comparing android to ios. the hardware is actually brutal but its not enough to compensate for the rather unoptimized software. unfortunately i do not live in the US and even if I did it wouldnt make much of a difference to me as i could flash custom vanilla android on the S4 anyhow.

schnip said:
i have made similar experiences when comparing android to ios. the hardware is actually brutal but its not enough to compensate for the rather unoptimized software. unfortunately i do not live in the US and even if I did it wouldnt make much of a difference to me as i could flash custom vanilla android on the S4 anyhow.
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I understand. Just be sure to get the S4 model with Snapdragon 600, as the 'S4 Nexus' will use it instead of the Exynos octa (no LTE). Then once its stock rom is released by fellow devs you can flash without issues

CorruptedSanity said:
Why are you disregarding s4's superior screen and resolution?
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actually i dont disregard it. for me the screen is one of the few improvements that really have a noticeable effect on everyday performance. unfortunately it comes at a great cost when comparing 300€(S3) to 600€(S4). I think the S3 is far more worth than only 1/2 of an S4
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I understand. Just be sure to get the S4 model with Snapdragon 600, as the 'S4 Nexus' will use it instead of the Exynos octa (no LTE). Then once its stock rom is released by fellow devs you can flash without issues
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Ok thanks for the advice!
Edit: " get the S3 version with 2gb ram (without exynos)"
As far as my research goes:
The exynos is the quadcore version whereas the snapdragon version of the S3 is dual core.
The quadcore version usually does not have 2GB ram but i found some spec sheets that had Quadcore + 2GB RAM (LTE version)
Id say better have quadcore instead of dualcore and 2GB ram right?
Edit 2:
Unfortunately i cant get the 2GB version with dualcore in Germany.
I can order
Exynos Quad 2GB RAM LTE and
Exynos Quad 1GB RAM no-LTE
I dont really need LTE but is the 1 GB of extra RAM worth the 50€? (apprx 65$)

schnip said:
basically performance benchmarkwise goes like this: S3> N4> S4.
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schnip said:
Please correct me on these statements if they are flawed or simply incorrect.
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Joe0Bloggs said:
A little math lesson for you
the side with less goes here < the side with more goes here
the side with more goes here > the side with less goes here
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schnip said:
thank you for cluttering the thread and posting bull****
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You asked to be corrected on your statements in the OP and that's what I did. Either you misued the comparison symbols or you thought both the S3 and N4 do benchmarks better than the S4.
I did what you asked people to do and an insult is what I get in return?
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Samsung Galaxy Note III LTE = SnapDragon 800

we've see in the news the South Korea only GS4 with the Snapdragon 800 beast
I hope Samsung release a 800 powered Samsung Galaxy Note III LTE in September :good:
Who else :highfive:

It's surely gonna be in the note 3.
unless there's a better one at that time
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Has Note series ever used SDragon?

tuxonhtc said:
Has Note series ever used SDragon?
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nope, but samsungs own 8 core (4x A15 4 4x A7) as used in the S4 i9500 does not have LTE, but the snapdragon S4 I9505 version does

tuxonhtc said:
Has Note series ever used SDragon?
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cirian75 said:
nope, but samsungs own 8 core (4x A15 4 4x A7) as used in the S4 i9500 does not have LTE, but the snapdragon S4 I9505 version does
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That's not entirely true, AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717 (not Internationa N7000) used a SnapDragon as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1493

jeffs99 said:
That's not entirely true, AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717 (not Internationa N7000) used a SnapDragon as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1493
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ok, there has been a snapdragon dual core note.
The 3 kings of CPU the hill right now are
the LTE quad core Snapdragon's
600 as used in the LTE S4 i9505 and HTC one
800 beast as used in the South Korea only S4
and the
Non LTE Exynos 5 Octa 5410 8 core
I hope Samsung will put the 800 in the Note 3

what's wrong with Octo core?

FinancialWar said:
what's wrong with Octo core?
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big.LITTLE architecture failure, too much over heating! the s4 i9500 comes with a lot of issues & problems related to the exynos hardware! I used to own one, came back to note 2

tbb1mb said:
big.LITTLE architecture failure, too much over heating! the s4 i9500 comes with a lot of issues & problems related to the exynos hardware! I used to own one, came back to note 2
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My wife own a S4 (i9500) and never had a heating problem or any problem at all. Yes it's a little bit hot when the A15 kicks in for a long time but summer in Shanghai is really hot and nothing to freak out. I also sold a couple of them to people I know and none of them have issues. They all love it. I think you highly exaggerate when you say "lot of issues".

Note II/III LTE with Snapdragon 800
I am purchasing the note III that will have the Snapdragon 800!!! I Want it!
I for one would love to see a note II ( a 720p screen) & the snapdragon 800 paired together. Add a custom kernel to U.C. (& U.V. [ but not necessarily along with other performance tweaks]) to around 1.5-1.8Ghz from 2.2-2.3GHz and I believe we would have a device with a great balance of performance and even better battery life that the current Note II.
The Adreno 330 matched up with 2-3GB of ram would definitely handle the 720p resolution with amazing grace, completing task and powering down quicker than the Adreno 320 even in Multi-view. For game play and performance, I will let you use your imagination but I am not referring to Words with Friends or Angry Birds.
I do not use S-Voice. Google Now is my preferred software of choice. I like to have a snappy UI (with great graphics, it is eye pleasing) and wish for even longer battery life when undergoing long periods of heavier use ie: 2.5hr of phone calls then; watching Netflix or a 720p film/tv episode from my sd card while responding to 20-30 mssgs/emails; an hour of HD game play and then video chat before going to bed. I travel often, can you tell? Let us not forget about constantly web browsing to search for the latest updates on S800’s/platforms power draw.
Look, we cannot have everything that we want, trade-offs are inevitable. A Beast of a phone/phablet that can handle the next 2 OS upgrades is what we all are praying for. I’m saying I would love that balance and think others would too. A Snapdragon 800 clocked up to 1.72-1.78Ghz in a note II with S-Voice wake commands disabled should have a comparable UI experience, if not slightly better, compared to the current NII’s and hopefully improved battery life.
Once again, I know this is about the Note III - please no flaming I am purchasing the note III that will have the Snapdragon 800!!! I Want it!
I an thinking of (min/max increase to) 1.5-2.5days of battery life on moderate to heavy use... am i the only one thinking that could be possible using a 720p screen? ... because i do also want the Adreno 320 GPU higher off-screen capabilities for presentations & gameplay
I know,... i do want it all but who doesn't... but what do you think about the 720p idea?

New octa would be better than S800 imo.

86Dragons said:
I am purchasing the note III that will have the Snapdragon 800!!! I Want it!
I for one would love to see a note II ( a 720p screen) & the snapdragon 800 paired together. Add a custom kernel to U.C. (& U.V. [ but not necessarily along with other performance tweaks]) to around 1.5-1.8Ghz from 2.2-2.3GHz and I believe we would have a device with a great balance of performance and even better battery life that the current Note II.
The Adreno 330 matched up with 2-3GB of ram would definitely handle the 720p resolution with amazing grace, completing task and powering down quicker than the Adreno 320 even in Multi-view. For game play and performance, I will let you use your imagination but I am not referring to Words with Friends or Angry Birds.
I do not use S-Voice. Google Now is my preferred software of choice. I like to have a snappy UI (with great graphics, it is eye pleasing) and wish for even longer battery life when undergoing long periods of heavier use ie: 2.5hr of phone calls then; watching Netflix or a 720p film/tv episode from my sd card while responding to 20-30 mssgs/emails; an hour of HD game play and then video chat before going to bed. I travel often, can you tell? Let us not forget about constantly web browsing to search for the latest updates on S800’s/platforms power draw.
Look, we cannot have everything that we want, trade-offs are inevitable. A Beast of a phone/phablet that can handle the next 2 OS upgrades is what we all are praying for. I’m saying I would love that balance and think others would too. A Snapdragon 800 clocked up to 1.72-1.78Ghz in a note II with S-Voice wake commands disabled should have a comparable UI experience, if not slightly better, compared to the current NII’s and hopefully improved battery life.
Once again, I know this is about the Note III - please no flaming I am purchasing the note III that will have the Snapdragon 800!!! I Want it!
I an thinking of (min/max increase to) 1.5-2.5days of battery life on moderate to heavy use... am i the only one thinking that could be possible using a 720p screen? ... because i do also want the Adreno 320 GPU higher off-screen capabilities for presentations & gameplay
I know,... i do want it all but who doesn't... but what do you think about the 720p idea?
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No way! We need 1080p now! Now that the s4 and HTC one are out.
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jetbruceli said:
No way! We need 1080p now! Now that the s4 and HTC one are out.
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Anything above 300ppi is wasted on normal eye from more than 10cm, from more normal 25cm, 240ppi is more than enough. I have note 2 and lenovo k900, side by side from normal distance I can see no difference in black text on white screen quality (white on black is better on Lenovo, that is true). So it would be nice, but by no means a dealbraker for me

mat9v said:
Anything above 300ppi is wasted on normal eye from more than 10cm, from more normal 25cm, 240ppi is more than enough. I have note 2 and lenovo k900, side by side from normal distance I can see no difference in black text on white screen quality (white on black is better on Lenovo, that is true). So it would be nice, but by no means a dealbraker for me
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Who says 300 is perfect? I was at the local o2 shop and played with a s4 and was amazed at the screen. Ever since Apple started this retina display I always wanted that in our devices. With a 1080p on 5.7 inch it's gonna be just awesome to read and play on the note 3.
Seriously try out the s4 and see how well the text looks.
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jetbruceli said:
Who says 300 is perfect? I was at the local o2 shop and played with a s4 and was amazed at the screen. Ever since Apple started this retina display I always wanted that in our devices. With a 1080p on 5.7 inch it's gonna be just awesome to read and play on the note 3.
Seriously try out the s4 and see how well the text looks.
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I say it's perfect. I have both to compare as I wrote @5.5 inch 720p and 1080p are almost indistinguishable from normal use distance. You say it's not, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Unless you put your nose almost to the screen you won't see any difference. Of course, given chance I would take FHD but to pay premium for it? No way Reading books - I do it every day on Note 2, playing games - with current GPU it would be suicide to try FHD gaming @ full details. Note 3, whatever they put in it will have to be much faster to handle FHD, the only reason I'm happy about that is because I will use MHL to play on my TV and then it will finally use full resolution. Other than that FHD on screen this size is useless, companies have limited numbers to compete with, so they up the display resolution (putting further strain on battery because higher res requires faster GPU and CPU to drive it well) or camera megapixels.
It drives my all the closer to switching to Chinese phones - 1/2 the price, almost the same hardware - you can get Note 2 lookalike (although with MTK CPU, but almost equal in speed) for about 300$, of course, no SPen, but that was only an example.
Oh, and you get FHD display that you like so much

[Q] Need advice , Which Note should I buy? Tad urgent

Ok
I've been debating with my self whether or not I should jump in and buy the note 10.1 2014 edition, but in my fact finding efforts certain questions arose ( with a lot of confusion)
1 Will HMP be available to the Exynos 5420 ? I keep finding information that goes both ways...yes...no...maybe
2 Does a root solution exist ( or is in works) that won't void warranty? (knox issues??)
3 Snapdragon or Exynos ( this brings me back to the HMP question!! IF HMP = yes well then Exynos, but...if not...?)
4 Any drawbacks when compared to comparable gen tablets? Lack of features, performance issues , instability etc?
I'm not doubting whether or not I want a pen enabled tablet, but with the new Nvidia pen enabled tablets in the works, samsung is losing it's unique position.
Now I know there are tons of posts all over the place that in essence answer a lot of the same points, but many of the threads go a bit back and forth and often misinformed on key issues...
Like Developer support for and against the Exynos vs Snapdragon etc And HMP support?
Now there is a small ticking clock attached to these questions, I've been offered a 17.5 % discount on the note ( LTE or wifi edition , my choice) But it expires on wednesday (30.okt)
Thanks in advance!!!
Cheers lads!

Short version, get the 32GB LTE version with Snapdragon 800.
Long version:
On current 28nm node forget about 8-core since it consumes too much power and runs too hot. Only possible once it hits ~16nm.
As far as stability Note series is best from experience. In over a year of owning Note 2 and original 10.1 have never experience a random reboot compared to even Google devices that have rare random reboots and other quirks.
For productivity and creativity there's nothing else right now that compares. If you want paperless note taking and drawing this is your best choice.
With high end specs and 3GB DRAM you're future proof for easily two years or more.

mi7chy said:
Short version, get the 32GB LTE version with Snapdragon 800.
Long version:
On current 28nm node forget about 8-core since it consumes too much power and runs too hot. Only possible once it hits ~16nm.
As far as stability Note series is best from experience. In over a year of owning Note 2 and original 10.1 have never experience a random reboot compared to even Google devices that have rare random reboots and other quirks.
For productivity and creativity there's nothing else right now that compares. If you want paperless note taking and drawing this is your best choice.
With high end specs and 3GB DRAM you're future proof for easily two years or more.
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But why choose Snapdragon over Exynos? It's more reliable? Better performance? OR?
What about Samsungs talk about HMG capabilities on new gen Exynos?
Anyone know anything about the root question?

DeBoX said:
But why choose Snapdragon over Exynos? It's more reliable? Better performance? OR?
What about Samsungs talk about HMG capabilities on new gen Exynos?
Anyone know anything about the root question?
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Snapdragon 800 has better graphics performance so that has bigger impact on user experience.
Forget about Exynos HMP for now until they get the node down to ~16nm as previously mentioned.
There's already root that doesn't trigger warranty negating Knox for Note 3 Snapdragon 800 which is a smaller Note 10.1 2014 Snapdragon 800.

mi7chy said:
Snapdragon 800 has better graphics performance so that has bigger impact on user experience.
Forget about Exynos HMP for now until they get the node down to ~16nm as previously mentioned.
There's already root that doesn't trigger warranty negating Knox for Note 3 Snapdragon 800 which is a smaller Note 10.1 2014 Snapdragon 800.
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Yeah l heard that snapdragon is 20 + % faster gpu. So there's that
But I can't help wonder how HMP (if it's going to be available to the note) would impact the performance of both gpu and cpu (I know that I'm a bit of a broken record)
Didn't know about the root, good to know, but there isn't one ready for the note yet...?
Anyone done a battery comparison between the two SoC ?
Anyone found articles on HMP and note? Looking for solid proof

mi7chy said:
Snapdragon 800 has better graphics performance so that has bigger impact on user experience.
Forget about Exynos HMP for now until they get the node down to ~16nm as previously mentioned.
There's already root that doesn't trigger warranty negating Knox for Note 3 Snapdragon 800 which is a smaller Note 10.1 2014 Snapdragon 800.
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Btw what about this:
Here is a youtube video from ARM, demonstrating Samsungs Exynox Octa 5420 running all eight cores simultaneously:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=fLrSTJECVaU
And this one with Angry birds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LNPxExkLMo

DeBoX said:
Btw what about this:
Here is a youtube video from ARM, demonstrating Samsungs Exynox Octa 5420 running all eight cores simultaneously:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=fLrSTJECVaU
And this one with Angry birds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LNPxExkLMo
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As mention before the real problem with HMP is heat or should i say overheat and the battery life.
Do we need 8 core for real ?
It is simple i you need LTE/4G you have to go for SP version, otherwise buy the Exynos and save some $.

VaggD said:
As mention before the real problem with HMP is heat or should i say overheat and the battery life.
Do we need 8 core for real ?
It is simple i you need LTE/4G you have to go for SP version, otherwise buy the Exynos and save some $.
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8 cores would in theory allow for better utilization of resources if we could get proper octa core. In essence if you're doing low yield tasks with limited needs, then you're using 1-4 of the A7's , if it's moderate then you switch to the A15 cluster, but if it's really demanding then the co-op between the two clusters might come in handy.
It would be great to have the capability available if possible, yeah it would be a drain on the battery, but think of it this way if you really need the power you're going to give up juice one way or another. The question is how smart the algorithms are to figure out your needs.
LTE isn't a must for me, it would be nice but I could go both ways on that issue. I'm more focused on performance, mod possibilities and overal performance vs battery balance.
What can I say I have a need for speed...

DeBoX said:
8 cores would in theory allow for better utilization of resources if we could get proper octa core. In essence if you're doing low yield tasks with limited needs, then you're using 1-4 of the A7's , if it's moderate then you switch to the A15 cluster, but if it's really demanding then the co-op between the two clusters might come in handy.
It would be great to have the capability available if possible, yeah it would be a drain on the battery, but think of it this way if you really need the power you're going to give up juice one way or another. The question is how smart the algorithms are to figure out your needs.
LTE isn't a must for me, it would be nice but I could go both ways on that issue. I'm more focused on performance, mod possibilities and overal performance vs battery balance.
What can I say I have a need for speed...
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Lets be realistic no HMP for note3/10.1!
If you can afford the lte version buy it! But i don't think you gonna see a big difference. Real speed is one thing, benchmark is another one!
I believe the majority buys high-tech devices not because they really need them but other reasons.... i think we should enjoy more those devices and stop compering benchmarks.
Personaly i will buy the SP version cause i need 4G.

VaggD said:
Lets be realistic no HMP for note3/10.1!
If you can afford the lte version buy it! But i don't think you gonna see a big difference. Real speed is one thing, benchmark is another one!
I believe the majority buys high-tech devices not because they really need them but other reasons.... i think we should enjoy more those devices and stop compering benchmarks.
Personaly i will buy the SP version cause i need 4G.
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I hear what you're saying, but how do you explain the youtube clips? Proof of concept? (not being sarcastic, honestly asking)

DeBoX said:
I hear what you're saying, but how do you explain the youtube clips? Proof of concept? (not being sarcastic, honestly asking)
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No offence taken :good:
Its not like its impossible!
Lets say that tomorrow sammy release the update that allows the 8 cores to work simultaneously, how can they be sure that the device after one month or year will not stop working... we already have read complains that some times the note gets hot.. They can't release a product that might break down every moment.. Imagine the loses the company will take in 2 year time (guaranty) plus the bad reputation.
P.S sorry for my English.

VaggD said:
No offence taken :good:
Its not like its impossible!
Lets say that tomorrow sammy release the update that allows the 8 cores to work simultaneously, how can they be sure that the device after one month or year will not stop working... we already have read complains that some times the note gets hot.. They can't release a product that might break down every moment.. Imagine the loses the company will take in 2 year time (guaranty) plus the bad reputation.
P.S sorry for my English.
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That is true, and absolutely something to consider. There is no real way to predict what effect HMP would really have on the CPU, and for that mater how much of a boost.
I'm just a tad pissed at Samsung for not being clear if / when/ what effect etc an HMP patch would have. In principle it might go fine, and the thermal sleeve on the 5420 might be able to take the heat. Maybe even the algorithms are in place to utilize the full effect and capabilities of the HMG tech. Or the whole thing might not even surface until Samsung S5 with Exynos 5430
I'm just stuck on the fenc, like any true tech geek the idea of true octa core is very tempting, and I'd be kicking my self if sammy Did release the patch tomorrow , but I already bough a snapdragon edition today....
Agony of choice is better then no choice, right?

DeBoX said:
That is true, and absolutely something to consider. There is no real way to predict what effect HMP would really have on the CPU, and for that mater how much of a boost.
I'm just a tad pissed at Samsung for not being clear if / when/ what effect etc an HMP patch would have. In principle it might go fine, and the thermal sleeve on the 5420 might be able to take the heat. Maybe even the algorithms are in place to utilize the full effect and capabilities of the HMG tech. Or the whole thing might not even surface until Samsung S5 with Exynos 5430
I'm just stuck on the fenc, like any true tech geek the idea of true octa core is very tempting, and I'd be kicking my self if sammy Did release the patch tomorrow , but I already bough a snapdragon edition today....
Agony of choice is better then no choice, right?
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Hope you enjoy it as much as possible !!! I thinking of buying the 16GB LTE but i don't now if 16GB are enough ? (I will keep the device at least 2-3 years) Of the 16GB how many does the device(stock ) use ?

VaggD said:
Hope you enjoy it as much as possible !!! I thinking of buying the 16GB LTE but i don't now if 16GB are enough ? (I will keep the device at least 2-3 years) Of the 16GB how many does the device(stock ) use ?
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If I've understood it properly, the OS takes about 4-5 gigs ( note that's the OS and the apps that come with it etc) , so in essence you should have something like 10-12 gig of user available space.
I'de say go for the 32 gig variant.
Yes, you can always add micro SD cards etc, but most apps still don't like moving to ext storage, and in most cases they don't move all of the content but just part of it.
I won't be gaming a lot, but a few games that I do like , GTA 3 and GTA vice city er about 2 gig each ( give or take) so there goes the space, some documents here and there, and apps, and so on and so on...
Anyone know of any difference in lag between the Snapdragon and Exynos versions?

Nexus 6 or not

Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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First thing, there is always something better round the corner, so when this new chip comes out, there will be an even better one planned for 6 months time. Second, apart from the kick of having the best hardware, would you necessarily be using it?
I say that since the N4 doesn't have 4G (apart from the modem hacks which aren't valid for Europe, where I am). I don't miss it, since I don't have a need for ultra-fast data transmission on my phone.
If you really need/expect to use the possibilities that the hardware enables, if I were you, I would wait until a terminal is equipped with it. If it's not critical, I'd go for either the N6 or an equivalent hi-end Xiaomi or Oppo.

anees167 said:
Well, as I currently have the nexus 4 I was expecting to be getting the nexus 6. However as the leaks suggest the fact that it would have 2K display and have 13mp camera that's all perfect. But it would have the snapdragon 805 which is around 2.7ghz quad core (which is just a speed bump from current flagships that have 801). The only thing it will have is a much powerful GPU which is adreno 420. But in January they will release the Snapdragon 810 which compared to 805 its a beast has a new processor architecture 20nm and would be OctoCore, 64 bit and the ram would be as twice as fast and so many more features. Because this would make the nexus 6 be outdated quickly. So thinking in that way would be a good option to get the nexus 6 or not ? What do you guys think?
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even if the hardware becomes outdated its still going to be strong enough for pretty much anything for couple of years but again If they put **** to mediocre battery life as usual then no thanks

Well it's the "perfect" useless 2K screen that's gonna eat up the battery. I hate QHD on 5-inchers.

You have good valid points but normally Qualcomm have updated their chips at a good rate and considering the fact on estimate around 4 months after the Nexus 6 release the chip would be a big difference in performance in every way and looking at their site. It will also have pretty cool featues
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In my opinion it's impossible to talk about buying/not buying the Nexus 6 as long as we have no official specs and before it is released

We need more details about the Nexus 6. Storage availabilities (microSD? I hope, but doubt it), battery size (removable?), etc.

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n6 or google silver,hardware software to much confision but will be best again i guess

Planterz said:
We need more details about the Nexus 6. Storage availabilities (microSD? I hope, but doubt it), battery size (removable?), etc.
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Very unlikely it will be removable battery
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anees167 said:
Very unlikely it will be removable battery
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Yeah, I know...
It's been a while since Motorola made a phone with a removable battery, and it's been a while since we've seen a Nexus with one.
My next phone, as soon as I can afford one, will most likely be a Sony Z3 Compact (although I might pick up a second Nexus 4 first). I love using big screens, but I hate carrying one. Months ago I was hoping to pick up a Z1 Compact and a OnePlus One. But life happened, and I can't afford those anymore, and even if I could, the Z3 is out soon, and the OPO...well...'nuff said. I still like the idea of having a smaller phone for daily life, then swapping the SIM to a phablet for gaming at home or reading eBooks. The Nexus 6 or S or whatever they end up calling it might just fill that spot if the price isn't absurd, but that'll probably have to wait until tax season.