Sony decided to update our Z1 to Android 5.0 Lollipop...
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...d-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/
Super! Thanks for your information!
Sony used to be lazy in doing updates
I didnt expect even Xperia Z will have Android L
This is great. I just hope we would get the Ultra Stamina Mode and Vivid mode but justvkeeping my fingers crossed.
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wow, that is great
Amazing!!!
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KWOKSFUNG said:
Sony used to be lazy in doing updates
I didnt expect even Xperia Z will have Android L
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Not true, Sony was used to be lazy, now Sony is become the fastest to bring update..... Z1 was the first phone to get the 4.4.4 update before all other brand.... GREAT SONY KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
Excelent!
That kind of behavior puts Sony as the first for my next smartphone / tablet.
The way they keep supporting "older" devices and the fact that their "skin" is light and not intrusive (cough* cough* samsung) is a big plus in my mind!
I wounder if they will enable features like 4k / 120+FPS on the Z1 with the update. That would be awesome to get thoses things natively!
Any ROM makers planning on making a custom rom when it comes out? I'd love for a 5.0 rom real soon.
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Not true, Sony was used to be lazy, now Sony is become the fastest to bring update..... Z1 was the first phone to get the 4.4.4 update before all other brand.... GREAT SONY KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
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I also love how quick to announce these updates they were, and even included variants (Z1s, z3v) so we don't have to assume. Great support!
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I hope Material Design + Xperia Theme = Awesome ?
However I do not expect much from Sony so I will not be disappointed once the update will be available lol
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I hope Material Design + Xperia Theme = Awesome ?
However I do not expect much from Sony so I will not be disappointed once the update will be available lol
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Agreed ,I'm not expecting much. The update itself will be fine to me, any additional tweaks or stuff they add will be a bonus. Not expecting a miracle update ..just glad they're giving us the update.
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Agreed ,I'm not expecting much. The update itself will be fine to me, any additional tweaks or stuff they add will be a bonus. Not expecting a miracle update ..just glad they're giving us the update.
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If only the L features are there, which will be....that alone will make the device a whole lot better standby battery life wise and camera tweaks will help immensely. Many features users here on our Z1 forums have been wanting from the Z2/Z3 are there by default, an ultra stamina mode(restricted performance to drastically improve battery life in cases of emergencies), double tap to wake, move to wake, more camera controls(RAW, Exposure control, shutter speed and better quality photos).
Even if some of these aren't implemented on stock Sony apps the updated google apps for 5.0 will have them. I'm not expecting much from Sony's side either, but as long as they just update it, which they will, Google's tweaks alone will make things significantly better.
Problem is Sony ROMs are quite buggy. They haven't fixed the Camera not available issue yet and all headphones stop working randomly every 2-3 days and phone needs to be restarted. There's also a delay in the lock screen unlocking process. If they simply update to 5.0 and make it really bug free I'm happy.
Omg yessssss, they even confirmed Z1s, which is my lame phone hoorayyy victorryyyyy
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Also, since Android Lolipop said it's going to have a new type of camera api, that probably means our cameras will be going full potential possibly, same goes for the Xperia Z where people said it had horrible quality for a 13mp? was it or 8? i forget, other wise I hope our camera improves a lot since it's one of Android L's new features, or so iread somewhere
We all knew the z1 would be updated the z was the biggest shocker. I've just bought my z1 thinking my z would not be updated lol. Is there any news from cyanogenmod as when cm12 will be available
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We all knew the z1 would be updated the z was the biggest shocker. I've just bought my z1 thinking my z would not be updated lol. Is there any news from cyanogenmod as when cm12 will be available
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Cm 12 will be released by the end of the year, and I think the same for PA and other custom roms (just my opinion)
For cm I saw this article here http://www.tuttoandroid.net/news/cyanogenmod-12-android-l-cm-12-203109/ (sorry is in Italian)
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Cm 12 will be released by the end of the year, and I think the same for PA and other custom roms (just my opinion)
For cm I saw this article here http://www.tuttoandroid.net/news/cyanogenmod-12-android-l-cm-12-203109/ (sorry is in Italian)
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CM was pretty plagued with bugs after they started Kitkat, even on the Nexus I had back then.
Sony will surely have a good rom much faster.
My only worries are: Xposed+ART is nogo, will rooting with locked BL be possible with all the new security stuff.
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CM was pretty plagued with bugs after they started Kitkat, even on the Nexus I had back then.
Sony will surely have a good rom much faster.
My only worries are: Xposed+ART is nogo, will rooting with locked BL be possible with all the new security stuff.
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Saw some articles on net: Android L is already rooted and the dev of xposed will release a new separate version that supports art
See more here: (sorry it's in italian)
http://www.androidworld.it/2014/10/...mi-commenti-rovo89-predicano-pazienza-253430/ (xposed)
http://www.tuttoandroid.net/android...e-il-root-per-android-lollipop-lpx13d-225117/ (Android 5.0 root)
Anyway yes we should wait official release from sony to see if it will be full rootable, but remember we have great devs here
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wow...wow...wow...wow
By the time it hits the Z1 the Xperia will likely have released
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I meant The Z5 sorry for the double post, I'm using the new xda one app and it doesn't allow editing of posts
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Hellos guys
Herez the gud news for Xperia Z Series Flagship phones
First up, Jelly Bean 4.3
We’re pleased to tell you that we’ll start rolling Android 4.3 for Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1 from next month*.
We also mentioned that a few of our products would be jumping software version – so, we can confirm that Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V* will be upgraded to Android Jelly Bean 4.3… also from next month.
And, to Kit Kat 4.4
We’re also happy to tell you about the first raft of Xperia products that we’ll make Android 4.4 Kit Kat available for – they are: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1*.
On that, please stay tuned to the social newsroom and @SonyMobileNews, where we’ll update you with specific info on product upgrade timings & software features as things progress.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them below.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability may vary by market / carrier
check the below website
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11...ss&utm_campaign=on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4
Question is, when are they going to release the update?
I like it....
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Question is, when are they going to release the update?
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Next month, as it says in the OP.
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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Where did you get this?
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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Yes, so Sony tells us. Based on my experience with Sony i fear version 4.4 will be out by the time 5.0 already is availalble.
Hope Sony surprises us this time...
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Yes, so Sony tells us. Based on my experience with Sony i fear version 4.4 will be out by the time 5.0 already is availalble.
Hope Sony surprises us this time...
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Pretty sure they will. But probably not in a good way.
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Can't people just be happy that support for this phone has not been dropped (yet), instead of complaining about timescales for release of the promised updates?
I thought people on these forums are a little more in the know than most places and would realise that it's not a fast process to prepare, test and release an update that isn't completely broken/full of bugs.
I guess I was wrong lol.
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Can't people just be happy that support for this phone has not been dropped (yet), instead of complaining about timescales for release of the promised updates?
I thought people on these forums are a little more in the know than most places and would realise that it's not a fast process to prepare, test and release an update that isn't completely broken/full of bugs.
I guess I was wrong lol.
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Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
pietrucci said:
Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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The developers here do a fantastic job and I have massive respect for everything they do for the modding/Android community. Several devices of mine have had their useful lives extended greatly because of people on XDA.
However, they are not under the same constraints as the devs that work for Sony.
Sony's devs will be under strict developmental, testing and qa constraints and cannot release updates with bugs and rely on people providing bug reports/logcats to fix said bugs after the fact. They have to release software with all features working and with minimal bugs.
Not to mention all the red tape/paperwork they no doubt have to deal with and the other devices that all need maintaining. I would also imagine that the budget for maintaining older devices is dwarfed by the budget for new devices.
It's also worth noting that a lot of the devs good work on XDA is only possible because of blobs/binaries provided by Sony's devs in the first place.
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Sony releases an update with a camera app that takes 4 sec to open and everyone loses sleep over it while some1 here releases an update with wifi issues, screen on delays etc, they get praise for the device bring up which gets labeled as 1st release. lol
Obviously Sony cant depend on rapid development and recoveries and backups and all the fancy stuff we do when we get into issues when it relates to the average android user who by the phone and occasionally plug it in for PC companion to update and that's it. When wifi stops working no one is gonna say " oh this is a first release. They will fix it soon". People take back the devices and swap brands like that. Consumers are a fickle bunch.
Also as I have always said to myself , AOSP is the most barebones and feature lacking kind of experience out there. Android has matured a lot since the froyo gingerbread days and so have the OEM modifications. The reason I decided on the XZ against the N4. I am one willing to sacrifice smoothness for functionality any day. My Z is still stock and I will probably keep it that way til the EOL is reached. I came from the LG O2x which got ICS in December/January so trust me when is say I can wait lol.
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Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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I agree, I think we all know they could have done this even 2 months ago. But do consider, they have to put in all bugs and make the OS laggy...you know how hard a job that is?
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Like I said... They made money already. Why would they spend more?
You know how much its costing them to pay 1 second-grade developer and 4 trainees so they could have a running upgrade dept? $120 a day! Thats too much for them.
(sorry for the ranting sarcasm...moving on...)
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-4-4-update-teased-for-sony-xperia-devices-20131101/
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-4-4-update-teased-for-sony-xperia-devices-20131101/
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There is nothing teased, it's just the news they put up.
Real question is, who cares?
I have seen no difference with kitkat and 4.2. apart from google now, now on the left. so I am not excited at all. The apptray needs the border removed on the Z, also camera improvements welcome.
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Real question is, who cares?
I have seen no difference with kitkat and 4.2. apart from google now, now on the left. so I am not excited at all. The apptray needs the border removed on the Z, also camera improvements welcome.
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Overall Performance seems better on KK. The difference between ART and dalvik is pretty big in some apps aswell. 4.3 brings trim.
The camera however ... Not so sure about that. I doubt they will even update the camera stuff. Why bother spending time and money optimizing an old flagships camera when people can just buy the New flagship with a camera that is advertised to be incredible? That's how a big company works. Time is money. Sad reality.
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The C6616 model hasn't even gotten the 4.2 update yet.
Ya hopefully the C6616 will see 4.3 if not we will have to flash C6603
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Right I know it's too early to guess regarding the development of the Z2, but I checked out the Z1 subforum, and I'm unimpressed to be honest.
The Z1 was released September 2013. The HTC M8 was released April this year. The M8 is fast approaching the number of threads/kernels/ROMS.
Why are the Sony devices being left behind? I'm still waiting for my Z2, but I have something in the back of mind telling me the M8 will excel with development and stay updated/refreshed longer.
Any thoughts?
I have an M8 and a Z1 - awaiting my preorder of the Z2.
I'm actually selling the m8 as I actually prefer the Z1 over it. For me I much prefer look and feel and to be fair the only thing that I feel I will miss will be the gestures etc. However I believe some of those will be on the Z2 so no biggie.
The other is the screen as the z1 is inferior in that dept. But most important for me the Z1 pisses all over the M8 camera everyday.
So for me development or not I'm happy with stock and the far superior camera (like I said that is very important to me).
Can't wait to get my Z2.
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This is something I am worried about too. Doesnt look like many developers / cooks are going for sony devices. M8 and S5 forums are already brimming with kernels / mods / roms (I know z2 is yet to be released worldwide) but there is only a very limited amount available even for z1.
Part fun of being in this community is the development. To be honest, I find it more interesting to follow a device that's an underdog from the beginning. I went and looked in the Z1 development part of XDA and I saw CM11 ,paranoidandroid... Thats enough for me by far. It will be fun to study how Z2 develops.
I have no fear, only joy.
This also bugs me a lot. I currently have HTC desire HD which came with 2.2. So far I have flashed 2.3 4.0.4 4.1 4.2 4.3 and 4.4. Till 4.1 I have flashed both sense and asop roms. Does Z2 will keep up like this?
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The good old Desire HD one of the best phones I've had. I'm still using a sensation at the moment because of the brilliant devs on this site.
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Lack of need for "development" was one of the reasons why I ordered a Z2.After four years of Samsung on my i9000 and i9300 and the need to root it to remove the bloat,wherafter "enjoying " the "development of CM / PA/ Slimrom etc ,and the frustration of the poor results of this development,
I decided to go for the best phone available atm because Sony stays very close to "stock "android the way I enjoy it on my N7.
Maybe from now on I can only enjoy this beautifull phone without ending up running around in circles as a "flash.a.holic" again.
For those who wish to persist in their "flashing" habits : good luck with it....
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The good old Desire HD one of the best phones I've had. I'm still using a sensation at the moment because of the brilliant devs on this site.
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Sony plan on releasing a new flagship every 6 months so they will quickly leave you behind in official updates, so really one would hope that they can benefit from ROMs.
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Lack of need for "development" was one of the reasons why I ordered a Z2.After four years of Samsung on my i9000 and i9300 and the need to root it to remove the bloat,wherafter "enjoying " the "development of CM / PA/ Slimrom etc ,and the frustration of the poor results of this development,
I decided to go for the best phone available atm because Sony stays very close to "stock "android the way I enjoy it on my N7.
Maybe from now on I can only enjoy this beautifull phone without ending up running around in circles as a "flash.a.holic" again.
For those who wish to persist in their "flashing" habits : good luck with it....
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Meant to quote you in post above
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Samsung S3 ownwers are left behind on 4.3,their choice : stay on 4.3 or use any of the CM/PA/Slimrom 4.4.2 Roms.
This leads to a phone with the latest android version,the price you have to pay for it: camera malfunction,bluetooth sound stutters and sound issues for heavy gamers are only a few of the problems.I went up and down between 4.3 and 4.4.2 many times and learned my lesson ;better stay on the version thats working properly ( Samsungs Rom )
Sony updates all Z phones to Kitkat in may,so even with a Z of one year old you are not left behind.
Even if Sony leaves me behind at any time in future I will remember the lessons learned....
I'll release an early cm build next week if all goes well
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brouwerchris said:
Samsung S3 ownwers are left behind on 4.3,their choice : stay on 4.3 or use any of the CM/PA/Slimrom 4.4.2 Roms.
This leads to a phone with the latest android version,the price you have to pay for it: camera malfunction,bluetooth sound stutters and sound issues for heavy gamers are only a few of the problems.I went up and down between 4.3 and 4.4.2 many times and learned my lesson ;better stay on the version thats working properly ( Samsungs Rom )
Sony updates all Z phones to Kitkat in may,so even with a Z of one year old you are not left behind.
Even if Sony leaves me behind at any time in future I will remember the lessons learned....
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Samsung S3 has the exynos chipset, that makes it harder to develop for, but the kitkat roms on there aren't as buggy as you say, they will most likely be stable by the time Sony finally rolls out their kitkat update to the Z (possibly it's last update ever knowing Sony). I personally hate the idea of buying a Smartphone and in a year it feels ancient and like a thing from the past, I am not rich enough to update my phone so often and most contracts are lasting 2 years. The aftercare you get from Sony is too poor for me personally
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I'll release an early cm build next week if all goes well
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Any idea of rooting this phone with locked bootloader? so we all can happily back up the TA partition.
While we're on the subject, is there a guide I can read explaining this Sony stuff? Mainly regarding the root process/DRM keys etc etc?
I'm new to Sony
mushtafa said:
While we're on the subject, is there a guide I can read explaining this Sony stuff? Mainly regarding the root process/DRM keys etc etc?
I'm new to Sony
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This is all about DRM/TA partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
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I'll release an early cm build next week if all goes well
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@krabappel2548: Might be too early to ask you this question, but doesn't do any harm to ask I guess.
I really can't wait to replace the stock ROM with CM, but on the other hand I wouldn't want to loose functionality that is ROM specific, most importantly camera functions. As far as I understand it is not possible to install the Sony stock camera in another ROM because it comes with a whole framework (which I guess can't be ported?!). In addition to that I'm under the impression that previous versions of the xperia Z shot better pictures in low light with the stock ROM.
Do you know if we're gonna loose the camera app and it's features or is it possible to port it over to CM?
If you could shed some light onto this issue, I would appreciate that.
Hopefully there'll be GP edition of this!
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hillbicks said:
@krabappel2548: Might be too early to ask you this question, but doesn't do any harm to ask I guess.
I really can't wait to replace the stock ROM with CM, but on the other hand I wouldn't want to loose functionality that is ROM specific, most importantly camera functions. As far as I understand it is not possible to install the Sony stock camera in another ROM because it comes with a whole framework (which I guess can't be ported?!). In addition to that I'm under the impression that previous versions of the xperia Z shot better pictures in low light with the stock ROM.
Do you know if we're gonna loose the camera app and it's features or is it possible to port it over to CM?
If you could shed some light onto this issue, I would appreciate that.
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No, stock camera app won't work on cm, but you can always use 3rd party apps
I'm almost finished with device tree for Z2
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No, stock camera app won't work on cm, but you can always use 3rd party apps
I'm almost finished with device tree for Z2
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Well, it seems like the Sony camera is way better than any 3rd party camera out there, that's why I asked. I'll open up a new thread and see where that takes us.
btw. do you think we will be able to backup the TA partition on the Z2? I still haven't rooted my device
I think as Android improves with every iteration, OEMs are slowly learning that simple is good. The stock feature set on the Z2 is fantastic, as in the camera. Less and less people are going to be willing to sacrifice things like the native camera app when the perceived benefit of switching to a custom ROM diminishes.
Personally, the first thing I did when I got my Z2 was install Google Now Launcher for a vanilla Android look and feel, but I wouldn't even consider doing a build of my ROM for this phone at this point in time because the stock features are brilliant a they are.
I don't think lack of development is an indicator of an unsuccessful phone anymore, but rather the opposite.
HTC devices are inherently going to have a lot of development as long as they continue with Sense, because Sense is such a user polarizer.
I think the current state of the factory ROM after .55 update is quite stable with some small issues. I am content with the current ROM. It is snappy, no lag and smooth. No carton-ish icons or effects like the Samsung phones
If you guys could switch from z2 right now to any phone what would it be? Share
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There isn't really a phone I'd swap to.
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There isn't really a phone I'd swap to.
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Another Z2, but only because this hypothetical switch would give me an extra couple of months' warranty. There's nothing out there which remotely compares to this phone other than the Z3, and most of its advantages will likely be in the Z2 soon, too. And personally, I prefer the styling of the Z2 over the Z3.
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Another Z2, but only because this hypothetical switch would give me an extra couple of months' warranty.
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Ha ha hadn't thought of that, a purple Z2 for me then
Yeah i know worst year for smarphones mostly everything was a fail.
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Z3 compact
I would only trade it for the Z3, that hi-res audio is very appealing
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Pretty much the same as everyone else.
I've only had my Z2 for a few weeks, but as far as I'm concerned, I don't want to swap for another phone, even a Z3.
Like some of the other guys, I prefer the styling of the Z2 and, thanks to Niaboc79's ROM, I have most of the Z3's bells and whistles anyway. HD Audio and a slimmer design just aren't enough of a reason to upgrade to a Z3 and there's nothing else out there that catches my eye.
For me...
If my Z2 was completely irrepairable or stolen & I had to claim for it...
A M8, the M8 was my 1st choice but it wasnt available until after 2 weeks after I had already opted for the Z2.
I owe @niaboc79 the credit for making me not regret getting the Z2...
He has single handedly unleashed the dormant potential of this device.
I only used HTC devices prior to getting the Z2 and HTC custom ROM development is on a level of its own.
We are extremely lucky to have niaboc,
Kudos to him
Think I would consider an LG G3
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I would only trade it for the Z3, that hi-res audio is very appealing
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That will be available in the next update for z2... Right??
Id probably swap for a Z2 with a 4.4.4 FTF on the internal storage
In other words im happy with Z2
You will need to wait until March / April time for the next batch of phones. After how Sony treated the Z2 i do not think i will ever touch a sony phone again.
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For me...
If my Z2 was completely irrepairable or stolen & I had to claim for it...
A M8, the M8 was my 1st choice but it wasnt available until after 2 weeks after I had already opted for the Z2.
I owe @niaboc79 the credit for making me not regret getting the Z2...
He has single handedly unleashed the dormant potential of this device.
I only used HTC devices prior to getting the Z2 and HTC custom ROM development is on a level of its own.
We are extremely lucky to have niaboc,
Kudos to him
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Are you talking about his ROM? Can it be flashed on locked bootloadrers?
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Are you talking about his ROM? Can it be flashed on locked bootloadrers?
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Yes, @niaboc79's ROM is the single reason I have got a M8, REAL TALK!!!!!
Check out NUT's dual recovery for locked bootloaders, ist a combination of a stock kernel with a custom recovery.
There are threads in the Z2 forums that detail the process.
I have a unlocked bootloader, so I just smash & flash...
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That will be available in the next update for z2... Right??
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It's hardware related not software so unfortunately we won't get it.
But I'm sure we will get all the other features
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Jiyeon90 said:
It's hardware related not software so unfortunately we won't get it.
But I'm sure we will get all the other features
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Is it the DSEE HX thing? If it is, according to the leak 4.4.4 rom, the Z2 will get it also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/development/rom-exr-sony-xperia-z24-4-423-0-1-0-t2907571
sofia-captivate said:
Yeah i know worst year for smarphones mostly everything was a fail.
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Quite the opposite, it's just that the Z2 ticks all the boxes for me, but at a push the M8 or Nexus 6 would suffice.
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ldorbin said:
Think I would consider an LG G3
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I was all set and then I heard about the battery life.
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For me...
If my Z2 was completely irrepairable or stolen & I had to claim for it...
A M8, the M8 was my 1st choice but it wasnt available until after 2 weeks after I had already opted for the Z2.
I owe @niaboc79 the credit for making me not regret getting the Z2...
He has single handedly unleashed the dormant potential of this device.
I only used HTC devices prior to getting the Z2 and HTC custom ROM development is on a level of its own.
We are extremely lucky to have niaboc,
Kudos to him
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Whose niaboc? Why is z2 better because of him? Anyone explain?
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sofia-captivate said:
Whose niaboc? Why is z2 better because of him? Anyone explain?
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Creator of existenz rom
Very good dev, very good in coding
able to make 'well put together' and clean stock based custom roms
Many use of very serious post though
Android 5.1 Lollipop is currently in development for lots of Xperia devices and it is scheduled for a July release. The Xperia devices, which will get the 5.1 update are:
Sony Xperia Z3 series: Xperia Z3, Xperia Z3v, Xperia Z3 Compact and Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact
Sony Xperia Z2 series: Xperia Z2 and Xperia Z2 Tablet
Sony Xperia Z1 series: Xperia Z1, Xperia Z1 Compact, Xperia Z1S, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z Ultra GPE
Sony Xperia Z series: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR and Xperia Tablet Z
Sony Xperia M2 and Xperia M2 Aqua
Sony Xperia T2 Ultra
Sony Xperia C3
The dual SIM flavors of the devices above will be treated with 5.1 Lollipop as well.
The updates will roll out starting this July. Naturally, the availability of those updates will vary by markets and carriers, but eventually they should reach to all compatible devices out there.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_announces_massive_android_51_upgrade_plans-news-12525.php
Poeple in these forums complain a lot, but Sony is really on its game with the updates.
SylverPT said:
Poeple in these forums complain a lot, but Sony is really on its game with the updates.
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yeah I think with some justification though, but thats partly down to the insanely stupid lolipop mess. They had this testing for months and still released a half bodged version which has to be patched up.
good to hear from sony, maybe ill upgrade from kk if its any good.
Z3C 23.4.A.0.348 testbuild userdebug global generic
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5.1?
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shafiq01 said:
Z3C 23.4.A.0.348 testbuild userdebug global generic
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Download?
DrEzkimo said:
yeah I think with some justification though, but thats partly down to the insanely stupid lolipop mess. They had this testing for months and still released a half bodged version which has to be patched up.
good to hear from sony, maybe ill upgrade from kk if its any good.
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I find it to work pretty fine aside of battery life being reduced and camera missing camera2 API. If you think its half bodged version, what should Samsung and HTC owners say about theirs... Memory leak bug still present after numerous tries to patch it, while Sony released it already bug-free...
By all accounts, 5.1 still has the 'mobile radio active' bug that is draining peoples' batteries. I have noticed that bug and am currently testing my second install of 5.0.2 to see how much of a problem it will be with my usage patterns, so I might end up going back to 4.4.4 rather than forward to 5.1
Sony's Lollipop is great. Samsung freaking had to cease the update of Galaxy S5 because it was so bad. Sony's one actually had only one or two bugs which quickly got fixed. There are nearly no issues on the lastest firmware really minus the headphone profiles bug
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Sony's lollipop has the same bugs as stock android as far as I can tell. It does have a few nice extras, but also has a few fugly touches and some bloat.
My biggest gripe is the Android "mobile radio active" bug... is no-one else experiencing this with the sony firmware?
Sadman Khan said:
Sony's Lollipop is great. Samsung freaking had to cease the update of Galaxy S5 because it was so bad. Sony's one actually had only one or two bugs which quickly got fixed. There are nearly no issues on the lastest firmware really minus the headphone profiles bug
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No man, Sony Lollipop sucks because the Ram Managment is very, very bad... Maybe you don´t use a lot multitasking, but users that buy this phone and use it for work and need a good amount of apps opened all time with 2GB or 3GB of RAM are very disappointed, we are waiting 5.1.1 too, to see if Sony fixes that, we hope that. With 2GB or 3GB this problem doesn´t have to happen.
iFlasher said:
No man, Sony Lollipop sucks because the Ram Managment is very, very bad... Maybe you don´t use a lot multitasking, but users that buy this phone and use it for work and need a good amount of apps opened all time with 2GB or 3GB of RAM are very disappointed, we are waiting 5.1.1 too, to see if Sony fixes that, we hope that. With 2GB or 3GB this problem doesn´t have to happen.
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I have all of these apps open. And they are all cached. They open instantly. I don't know of this multitasking problem you speak of. One day, i had a file minimised in office suite and it was still there the next day and opened instantly. I don't know what you guys are doing wrong but my phone is flying and is managing RAM better than any manager at Walmart.
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I haven't noticed any issues with the D5803_23.1.A.1.28 second release of 5.0.2. Rooted and running very nicely; battery life seems similar to KitKat, possibly very slightly worse (could be an updated app causing that).
I've not noticed any issues at all with lollipop I play a lot of memory intensive games and occasionally forget to close them >_<
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hopefully the camera issue will be resolved.
Sadman Khan said:
I don't know what you guys are doing wrong but my phone is flying and is managing RAM better than any manager at Walmart.
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HEYOOO! Shots fired! lol
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HEYOOO! Shots fired! lol
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I bet Tasmia was very happy he was taking screenshots during their conversation because he needs to show the world his z3c has no memory leaks!
What a nerd
istux said:
I bet Tasmia was very happy he was taking screenshots during their conversation because he needs to show the world his z3c has no memory leaks!
What a nerd
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Just trying to prove a point bro
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Just trying to prove a point bro
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[OT]
Never let a woman know that you're not listening to her.
Just an advice bro
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I have to second him actually. My phone has zero memory problems. dunno what the lot of you are doing with yours to cause them.
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Never let a woman know that you're not listening to her.
Just an advice bro
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She's nowhere near XDA and she was actually studying at that time
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Bad news or good news mate,? Our beloved device will not get the M. So this is the time for change our device is'nt it?
Source :
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow
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odie70 said:
Bad news or good news mate,? Our beloved device will not get the M. So this is the time for change our device is'nt it?
Source :
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow
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Or you can stick with cyanogemod and wait for a port of Sony apps and câmera,Just like older xperias does...
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I'm pretty sure we will get Android M through various different means, even if Sony doesn't do it.
Does this include the AOSP developer version or just official stable roms?
Official stable roms.
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Or you can stick with cyanogemod and wait for a port of Sony apps and câmera,Just like older xperias does...
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If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.
xasbo said:
If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.
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Bad luck man,3 years is good time tho
You'll be happy with z5 mate
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I know that sony can definitely make it. Z1 is a beast even these days, and it isnt much different compared to Z2. It's just sony doesnt care to do it coz it's old. Though I think Z1's life should be a little longer compared to the original Z. A little unfair here.
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I know that sony can difinitely make it. Z1 is a beast even these days, and it isnt much different compared to Z2. It's just sony doesnt care to do it coz it's old. Though I think Z1's life should be a little longer compared to the original Z. A little unfair here.
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You're right, I think we deserve the android M from Sony
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If only I didn't have a LB phone... bad luck for me.
I suppose around that time I will be wanting a new phone anyway, so *shrug*. 3 years on a handset is pretty solid IMO.
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Hehe, my xperia is just 3 months old I'm a little angry because a few weeks ago xiaomi released redmi note 2 that will get A6 and it's even cheaper than a new z1. Only it's not made from metal and glass and it's not waterproof.
Lets post that we need it
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Soft...arshmallow-Which-Xperias-will-be/td-p/1033227
And comment here
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/06/sony-xperia-and-android-6-0-marshmallow/
wmcdrugs said:
Lets post that we need it
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Softw...e/td-p/1033227
And comment here
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/10/...0-marshmallow/
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Both of those links are broken.
Fixed, thanks
SuperLamic said:
Hehe, my xperia is just 3 months old I'm a little angry because a few weeks ago xiaomi released redmi note 2 that will get A6 and it's even cheaper than a new z1. Only it's not made from metal and glass and it's not waterproof.
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Yes, sony dev are suck i guess
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Judging from driver issues(ex: No 5GHz wifi listed on some device, and terrible wifi speed) on both 5.0.2 & 5.1.1, SONY seems to doing copy & paste the rom source from another variable like Z2.
Will there be any differences between SONY's official and ported ROM from Z2? I guess no.
No hating, but I suggest we all turn up the heat with Z1 getting 6.0. I mean look at the Z, it received updates up until 5.1.1, so it doesn't seem logical that the Z1 being a much newer and higher spec phone compared to the Z gets up to 5.1.1 only. We should get the 6.0 update. As for the Z, IMHO it's update until 5.1.1 is already a welcome farewell to the grandfather beast. Because of the Z, Sony has come along way.
Z1 got 4 major updates, more than most other phones, why are you all complaining it is being ditched?
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Z1 got 4 major updates, more than most other phones, why are you all complaining it is being ditched?
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Mostly because the updates where just all a mess except 4.4.4
But my mayor concern is if the Z5 sales fail - Sony will for sure sell their Xperia department this time ...
I was really keen to get a Z5, but considering the awesome specs of the Lumina 950 and 950XL, updates as you are used to get them on Windows I probably give it a try. Continuum is just to good to be true. Would the 950 be Waterresistant, no doubt at all to move...
Some people fighting for latest firmware. And there's people like me who still staying with Kit kat for stability and stuff.
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Judging from driver issues(ex: No 5GHz wifi listed on some device, and terrible wifi speed) on both 5.0.2 & 5.1.1, SONY seems to doing copy & paste the rom source from another variable like Z2.
Will there be any differences between SONY's official and ported ROM from Z2? I guess no.
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The core of the ROM is mainly from another device such as the Z2, but they're built against specific device configs. It's really not that complicated and it's something that Sony could easily support as it'd be no different to what they've already done with Lollipop.
The Nexus 5 is similar to the Z1 and that'll be receiving Marshmallow. Hell, the Z2 isn't all that different from the Z1 either. The only difficult part to deal with is the camera, but it's not like Sony can't get it done.
People should keep complaining and demanding the 6.0 update for the Z1 and then we might end up with an update, but if people sit quiet and don't even bother to ask about it then we'll be stuck on 5.1.1 unless you want to unlock your bootloader and install ROM's that will never be 100% stable.