Hellos guys
Herez the gud news for Xperia Z Series Flagship phones
First up, Jelly Bean 4.3
We’re pleased to tell you that we’ll start rolling Android 4.3 for Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1 from next month*.
We also mentioned that a few of our products would be jumping software version – so, we can confirm that Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V* will be upgraded to Android Jelly Bean 4.3… also from next month.
And, to Kit Kat 4.4
We’re also happy to tell you about the first raft of Xperia products that we’ll make Android 4.4 Kit Kat available for – they are: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1*.
On that, please stay tuned to the social newsroom and @SonyMobileNews, where we’ll update you with specific info on product upgrade timings & software features as things progress.
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to drop them below.
*Software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability may vary by market / carrier
check the below website
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11...ss&utm_campaign=on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4
Question is, when are they going to release the update?
I like it....
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davidvu396 said:
Question is, when are they going to release the update?
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Next month, as it says in the OP.
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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Where did you get this?
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EDIT: XPERIA Z will be the first Sony device that will receive both new android flavors 4.3 and 4.4
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Yes, so Sony tells us. Based on my experience with Sony i fear version 4.4 will be out by the time 5.0 already is availalble.
Hope Sony surprises us this time...
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Yes, so Sony tells us. Based on my experience with Sony i fear version 4.4 will be out by the time 5.0 already is availalble.
Hope Sony surprises us this time...
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Pretty sure they will. But probably not in a good way.
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Can't people just be happy that support for this phone has not been dropped (yet), instead of complaining about timescales for release of the promised updates?
I thought people on these forums are a little more in the know than most places and would realise that it's not a fast process to prepare, test and release an update that isn't completely broken/full of bugs.
I guess I was wrong lol.
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Can't people just be happy that support for this phone has not been dropped (yet), instead of complaining about timescales for release of the promised updates?
I thought people on these forums are a little more in the know than most places and would realise that it's not a fast process to prepare, test and release an update that isn't completely broken/full of bugs.
I guess I was wrong lol.
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Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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The developers here do a fantastic job and I have massive respect for everything they do for the modding/Android community. Several devices of mine have had their useful lives extended greatly because of people on XDA.
However, they are not under the same constraints as the devs that work for Sony.
Sony's devs will be under strict developmental, testing and qa constraints and cannot release updates with bugs and rely on people providing bug reports/logcats to fix said bugs after the fact. They have to release software with all features working and with minimal bugs.
Not to mention all the red tape/paperwork they no doubt have to deal with and the other devices that all need maintaining. I would also imagine that the budget for maintaining older devices is dwarfed by the budget for new devices.
It's also worth noting that a lot of the devs good work on XDA is only possible because of blobs/binaries provided by Sony's devs in the first place.
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Sony releases an update with a camera app that takes 4 sec to open and everyone loses sleep over it while some1 here releases an update with wifi issues, screen on delays etc, they get praise for the device bring up which gets labeled as 1st release. lol
Obviously Sony cant depend on rapid development and recoveries and backups and all the fancy stuff we do when we get into issues when it relates to the average android user who by the phone and occasionally plug it in for PC companion to update and that's it. When wifi stops working no one is gonna say " oh this is a first release. They will fix it soon". People take back the devices and swap brands like that. Consumers are a fickle bunch.
Also as I have always said to myself , AOSP is the most barebones and feature lacking kind of experience out there. Android has matured a lot since the froyo gingerbread days and so have the OEM modifications. The reason I decided on the XZ against the N4. I am one willing to sacrifice smoothness for functionality any day. My Z is still stock and I will probably keep it that way til the EOL is reached. I came from the LG O2x which got ICS in December/January so trust me when is say I can wait lol.
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Come on, you know this could be much much quicker of Sony would give this priority.
See what our XDA senior developers achieve in just a few weeks, days, hours...
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I agree, I think we all know they could have done this even 2 months ago. But do consider, they have to put in all bugs and make the OS laggy...you know how hard a job that is?
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Like I said... They made money already. Why would they spend more?
You know how much its costing them to pay 1 second-grade developer and 4 trainees so they could have a running upgrade dept? $120 a day! Thats too much for them.
(sorry for the ranting sarcasm...moving on...)
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http://androidcommunity.com/android-4-4-update-teased-for-sony-xperia-devices-20131101/
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xchasa said:
http://androidcommunity.com/android-4-4-update-teased-for-sony-xperia-devices-20131101/
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There is nothing teased, it's just the news they put up.
Real question is, who cares?
I have seen no difference with kitkat and 4.2. apart from google now, now on the left. so I am not excited at all. The apptray needs the border removed on the Z, also camera improvements welcome.
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Real question is, who cares?
I have seen no difference with kitkat and 4.2. apart from google now, now on the left. so I am not excited at all. The apptray needs the border removed on the Z, also camera improvements welcome.
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Overall Performance seems better on KK. The difference between ART and dalvik is pretty big in some apps aswell. 4.3 brings trim.
The camera however ... Not so sure about that. I doubt they will even update the camera stuff. Why bother spending time and money optimizing an old flagships camera when people can just buy the New flagship with a camera that is advertised to be incredible? That's how a big company works. Time is money. Sad reality.
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The C6616 model hasn't even gotten the 4.2 update yet.
Ya hopefully the C6616 will see 4.3 if not we will have to flash C6603
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I believe Sony should realese the Xperia Z with 4.2.1 so as to outpace its competitors even if they postpone it accordingly to skin the 4.2.1 with Timescape UI it is really neccesary at this time cause 4.2.1 was released on 27th November
This post has also has been created on Sony's official forum ---> Talk Sony Mobile Thread number: 69065
please all of you that agree can go dicuss and there so that Sony can see the requirments of the consumer.
GameKing95 said:
I believe Sony should realese the Xperia Z with 4.2.1 so as to outpace its competitors even if they postpone it accordingly to skin the 4.2.1 with Timescape UI it is really neccesary at this time cause 4.2.1 was released on 27th November
This post has also has been created on Sony's official forum ---> Talk Sony Mobile Thread number: 69065
please all of you that agree can go dicuss and there so that Sony can see the requirments of the consumer.
I WOULD LIKE AN XDA MODERATOR TO MAKE A SONY XPERIA Z CATEGORY FOR DISCUSSIONS
AND MOVE THIS POST THERE
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act like a boss..LOL
GameKing95 said:
I believe Sony should realese the Xperia Z with 4.2.1 so as to outpace its competitors even if they postpone it accordingly to skin the 4.2.1 with Timescape UI it is really neccesary at this time cause 4.2.1 was released on 27th November
This post has also has been created on Sony's official forum ---> Talk Sony Mobile Thread number: 69065
please all of you that agree can go dicuss and there so that Sony can see the requirments of the consumer.
I WOULD LIKE AN XDA MODERATOR TO MAKE A SONY XPERIA Z CATEGORY FOR DISCUSSIONS
AND MOVE THIS POST THERE
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You do...do you now!! :silly:
You know, nothing would be wrong if they simply put GB on it, and then each month release a new major update (ICS, both JBs);
Because, the more Android versions a phone can handle (officially), the better it is for development...
The Nexus S is a perfect example;
GB>ICS>JB>JB.2.1
someone755 said:
You know, nothing would be wrong if they simply put GB on it, and then each month release a new major update (ICS, both JBs);
Because, the more Android versions a phone can handle (officially), the better it is for development...
The Nexus S is a perfect example;
GB>ICS>JB>JB.2.1
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Creating a major update every month is close to impossible. Well, actually possible, but then don't expect a bug-free and/or stable update.
Besides, why provide so many? GB is getting old already, ICS is still in use, as JB hasn't been around for very long. These 2 are just fine.
JB.2.1 doesn't exist for nexus s kindly check your facts before posting
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JB.2.1 doesn't exist kindly check your facts before posting
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I think he means jb.2.1 as in 4.2.1
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Read a few days back that sony would be releasing 4.2 immediately after releasing the Z
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I think he means jb.2.1 as in 4.2.1
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Yes I know that and 4.2.1 for Nexus S has never been released by Google
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Read a few days back that sony would be releasing 4.2 immediately after releasing the Z
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That's what they said to Xperia S buyers, too. ICS update immediately after the release.
And guess what happened:silly:
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I believe Sony should realese the Xperia Z with 4.2.1 so as to outpace its competitors even if they postpone it accordingly to skin the 4.2.1 with Timescape UI it is really neccesary at this time cause 4.2.1 was released on 27th November
This post has also has been created on Sony's official forum ---> Talk Sony Mobile Thread number: 69065
please all of you that agree can go dicuss and there so that Sony can see the requirments of the consumer.
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I'm actually surprised that Xperia Z comes with 4.1, instead of 4.0.4. ROFL
Sv: Sony Xperia Z should launch with Android 4.2.1 (Jelly Bean)
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That's what they said to Xperia S buyers, too. ICS update immediately after the release.
And guess what happened:silly:
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I'm actually surprised that Xperia Z comes with 4.1, instead of 4.0.4. ROFL[/QUOTE
as far as I can see!!! no schedule only this
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It cant be launched with 4.2.1 cuz qualcom, and many other manufactures didnt create drivers for that android version.
That decision isnt make by sony, sony do what it can do.
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It cant be launched with 4.2.1 cuz qualcom, and many other manufactures didnt create drivers for that android version.
That decision isnt make by sony, sony do what it can do.
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So the Nexus 4 is running on pixie dust then? Of course there's drivers! The biggest reason is simply that during the months of software/hardware testing JB 4.1 would have been the current OS.. so that's what it's releasing with.
M.
electrash said:
It cant be launched with 4.2.1 cuz qualcom, and many other manufactures didnt create drivers for that android version.
That decision isnt make by sony, sony do what it can do.
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Go troll somewhere else.
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Go troll somewhere else.
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Lol idiot.
Some recognized dev tell that, i only forward what he says.
Go use your ****ty brain with your mum
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nice thank u
nice thank u
Just to add something to those people.
Answer me which phone or tablet have android 4.2.1 exept nexus line?
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Just to answer you....
Nexus devices are running qualcom, nvidia and samsumg SoC's.
So tell me again these manufacturers that havent released these drivers you are waiting on.
No other devices have 4.2.1 because
1. 4.2 is buggy...look at the bluetooth issues for example
2. Updating UI to 4.1/4.2 needs more care as to not break your own UI features
3. 4.2 came so (relatively) soon after 4.2 that most manufacturers havent even finished up 4.1
waiting for this phone to release in india
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Just to answer you....
Nexus devices are running qualcom, nvidia and samsumg SoC's.
So tell me again these manufacturers that havent released these drivers you are waiting on.
No other devices have 4.2.1 because
1. 4.2 is buggy...look at the bluetooth issues for example
2. Updating UI to 4.1/4.2 needs more care as to not break your own UI features
3. 4.2 came so (relatively) soon after 4.2 that most manufacturers havent even finished up 4.1
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Yes i know that im not dumbass.
I asked which phone exept nexus line have 4.2.1
I will buy xperia z and i dont care about that update, i just ask those who want that.
Only nexus line have 4.2.1 and that will remain in that way for sime time.
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Hi folks,
Some of you may have noticed that Android 4.2.2 JellyBean has been certified through PTCRB for our device (SGP321).
More on XperiaBlog, but can't be too long now. http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/06/2...e-certified-for-xperia-tablet-z-10-3-a-0-407/
Will be interesting to see if the UI changes on the Z are also on the Tablet Z.
Based on how the Xperia Z and ZL were updated, I doubt that Sony will change the UI.
But we can. Once the system dump leaks.
Edit: I thought you talking about the Z Ultra. My bad.
Thats great news, im placing my bets on sony making a come back with quality devices, software, and support
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That is great to hear! I hope we can expect this to be announced for the SGP311.
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My biggest wish for the update is multiuser support. That would be awesome!
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Will Sony drop the traditional tablet UI in favour for the Nexus 10 phone layout?
Reading on Wiki and video reviews of android 4.2.2 tablets, none seem to adopt the Tablet UI we currently have.
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Will Sony drop the traditional tablet UI in favour for the Nexus 10 phone layout?
Reading on Wiki and video reviews of android 4.2.2 tablets, none seem to adopt the Tablet UI we currently have.
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I really hope they don't. I don't like it by any means.
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Will Sony drop the traditional tablet UI in favour for the Nexus 10 phone layout?
Reading on Wiki and video reviews of android 4.2.2 tablets, none seem to adopt the Tablet UI we currently have.
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I doubt they well. It's one of the good things they have going on
heard the interface has become much more smoother on 422 but not many changes in UI etc. no multi user support either.
Please no phablet UI Sony. It's one of the things i hated about my Nexus 7 and why i put PA on it straight away.
I tried CM10.1 on my Z Tab yesterday and couldn't stand the phablet ui. It's just so unintuitive and wastes space.
I hope they'll release or at least "leak" it soon. The current firmware is quite stable and fast, but the slightly laggy UI and the mediaserver bug (has nothing to do with Sony, well known problem within 4.1.2) need to be ironed out.
Xperia Tablet Z to received 4.2.2 from early August. So could be as early as next week:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/07/2...ia-zr-to-get-android-4-2-2-from-early-august/
Don't celebrate too early.
On Xperia Z the 4.2.2 update is buggy...
It's well possible that it could be better to remain on 4.1.2 until some dev releases a usable 4.2.2 custom ROM with the device-specific features intact.
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Don't celebrate too early.
On Xperia Z the 4.2.2 update is buggy...
It's well possible that it could be better to remain on 4.1.2 until some dev releases a usable 4.2.2 custom ROM with the device-specific features intact.
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Where are you seeing reports of bugginess on the as-yet unreleased (I'm assuming leaked?) update?
Regards,
John Francis
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Where are you seeing reports of bugginess on the as-yet unreleased (I'm assuming leaked?) update?
Regards,
John Francis
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He was talking about the Xperia Z phone software being buggy...
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He was talking about the Xperia Z phone software being buggy...
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Damn, it's easy to ignore the missing 'Tablet'... thanks for the clarification.
Regards,
John Francis
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/07/25/on-android-jelly-bean-4-3/
Apparently, 4.2.2 will arrive in Early august, and I would assume 4.3 a month or so after that.
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Don't celebrate too early.
On Xperia Z the 4.2.2 update is buggy...
It's well possible that it could be better to remain on 4.1.2 until some dev releases a usable 4.2.2 custom ROM with the device-specific features intact.
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Your Xperia Z buggy but not everyone feel that. Factory reset solved everything, as for Album issue, today got someone had received new version and it run smoothly also.
I am running happily with 4.2.2 on my Xperia Z before, and now using happily with Honami leak ROM.
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/07/25/on-android-jelly-bean-4-3/
Apparently, 4.2.2 will arrive in Early august, and I would assume 4.3 a month or so after that.
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Best joke of the year! HAHAHA! A month! Pfffff.... HAHAHA, ROFL!
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Best joke of the year! HAHAHA! A month! Pfffff.... HAHAHA, ROFL!
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Seriously?
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So, Sony’s Jelly Bean 4.2 upgrade for Xperia Z and Xperia ZL is well underway* – next up, Xperia ZR and Xperia Tablet Z will start receiving 4.2 from early August.
Yesterday you probably saw Google announce the next version of Jelly Bean (Android 4.3) – we’re already getting stuck in and can confirm we’ll make 4.3 available for: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP and Xperia Z Ultra…
We’re also looking at uplifting some of our other devices running 4.1 direct to 4.3 – we’ll share more info / deets / timings when we can, so be sure to follow @sonymobileNews for all the latest.
If you fancy learning a little bit more about the technical side of our software development, check out Developer World’s latest piece on how we’re improving and refining our efforts to bring users new Android versions.
On that note, thank you for all the feedback on our Jelly Bean 4.1 rollout for Xperia 2012 products – we’re aware the process hasn’t been as succinct or as timely as you might’ve expected. As part of Developer World’s piece, Fredrik Ekstrand, our Head of Software Product Management, elaborates on some of the reasons for this, but essentially – we’ve heard your frustrations and are constantly improving the way we do things.
If you have any questions, feel free to drop them below.
Ant.
Source: http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/07/25/on-android-jelly-bean-4-3/
sxrmafia said:
So, Sony’s Jelly Bean 4.2 upgrade for Xperia Z and Xperia ZL is well underway* – next up, Xperia ZR and Xperia Tablet Z will start receiving 4.2 from early August.
Yesterday you probably saw Google announce the next version of Jelly Bean (Android 4.3) – we’re already getting stuck in and can confirm we’ll make 4.3 available for: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP and Xperia Z Ultra…
We’re also looking at uplifting some of our other devices running 4.1 direct to 4.3 – we’ll share more info / deets / timings when we can, so be sure to follow @sonymobileNews for all the latest.
If you fancy learning a little bit more about the technical side of our software development, check out Developer World’s latest piece on how we’re improving and refining our efforts to bring users new Android versions.
On that note, thank you for all the feedback on our Jelly Bean 4.1 rollout for Xperia 2012 products – we’re aware the process hasn’t been as succinct or as timely as you might’ve expected. As part of Developer World’s piece, Fredrik Ekstrand, our Head of Software Product Management, elaborates on some of the reasons for this, but essentially – we’ve heard your frustrations and are constantly improving the way we do things.
If you have any questions, feel free to drop them below.
Ant.
Source: http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/07/25/on-android-jelly-bean-4-3/
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M sure even when 4.3 is released...SP will get its update only by the end of the year....
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M sure even when 4.3 is released...SP will get its update only by the end of the year....
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We'll be lucky if it come before Christmas...
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We'll be lucky if it come before Christmas...
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M sure even when 4.3 is released...SP will get its update only by the end of the year....
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Wow! The Sony slagging has started already. Unbelievable.
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technaudio said:
Wow! The Sony slagging has started already. Unbelievable.
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Don't get me wrong, I would love to be wrong They are currently doing big efforts to be efficient and that why I bought a sony device in the first place.
They are the first to reply at the google announce so I hope for the best.
I would like to suggest the DEV Team to pay special attention to the Camera and Audio quality on the latest Xperia 2013 line , Using the the exmor sensor and as it was hyped the quality is just horrible and unacceptable from a sony device.
Just release the AOSP for this! Then the "XDA Dev Team" *lol* can take over..
It owuld be much easier for them.
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Seriously?
Android 4.2 was announced 8 month ago, and you will not give it to our Xperia SP, we must wait again some month (6? ). And they said, without no shame, "Check out on how we're improving our efforts"!
I think, they actually laughing about us!
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Wow! The Sony slagging has started already. Unbelievable.
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Bro wld loved to b proved wrong...but going by Sony's past history just taking a gig...even with the latest version India was the last to get the latest official update from .211 to .257
Better late than never!
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Seriously?
Android 4.2 was announced 8 month ago, and you will not give it to our Xperia SP, we must wait again some month (6? ). And they said, without no shame, "Check out on how we're improving our efforts"!
I think, they actually laughing about us!
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So, some other manufacturer like Samsung also skip the Android 4.2 to 4.3 in their last year flapship phone but u not complaint them also?
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So, some other manufacturer like Samsung also skip the Android 4.2 to 4.3 in their last year flapship phone but u not complaint them also?
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The S Advance had a huge jump, from GB to JB.
"你看到了没? 爱让我流胆怯的泪..."
"Have you seen it? Love has made me cry cowardly tears..."
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The S Advance had a huge jump, from GB to JB.
"你看到了没? 爱让我流胆怯的泪..."
"Have you seen it? Love has made me cry cowardly tears..."
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That's true. But I still stand by my choice of getting AOSP for the phone first.
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That's true. But I still stand by my choice of getting AOSP for the phone first.
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Sure thing.
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The S Advance had a huge jump, from GB to JB.
"你看到了没? 爱让我流胆怯的泪..."
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I also got s Advance last time(for a week ) ,but JB stock Rom is too horrible so after use one week directly sell it
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sss2sssss said:
I also got s Advance last time(for a week ) ,but JB stock Rom is too horrible so after use one week directly sell it
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It's only laggy if you don't know what to do
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It's only laggy if you don't know what to do
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Errr ,the S advance not consider laggy ....=.=
What I see from the ROM ,they put the default min and max frequency is always 1000MHz
And the RAM management is unoptimize , the apps always in buzy usage and phone just hang at there ,need to wait it respond back
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A few hours ago the 4.2.2 update for the ZR started to roll. I hope we see it in our C530X in a few days or weeks
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A few hours ago the 4.2.2 update for the ZR started to roll. I hope we see it in our C530X in a few days or weeks
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I dont think so. Because Sony already gave a statement that it will skip 4.2 for Xperia SP und move directly to 4.3
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solid0snake said:
I dont think so. Because Sony already gave a statement that it will skip 4.2 for Xperia SP und move directly to 4.3
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No they didn't. Where the f did you even read that? They both implied that the SP update won't come early august and that they won't be skipping 4.2. That or they don't know how to write news releases.
Straight from sonys website:
So, Sony’s Jelly Bean 4.2 upgrade for Xperia Z and Xperia ZL is well underway* – next up, Xperia ZR and Xperia Tablet Z will start receiving 4.2 from early August.
Yesterday you probably saw Google announce the next version of Jelly Bean (Android 4.3) – we’re already getting stuck in and can confirm we’ll make 4.3 available for: Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR, Xperia Tablet Z, Xperia SP and Xperia Z Ultra…
We’re also looking at uplifting some of our other devices running 4.1 direct to 4.3 – we’ll share more info / deets / timings when we can, so be sure to follow @SonyMobileNews for all the latest.
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Guys as we all face several delays and miss in informations about the new software upgrades we wish to sign a petition to force sony To share us the stages and phases about the new upgrade not as before waiting 3 months and no info,as you saw what happeb to xperia SP they delay the updates wothout any reason so guys who can help us to do it so we can get some info fron the source neither leaks nor rumors are you in guys so who can help us???
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Guys as we all face several delays and miss in informations about the new software upgrades we wish to sign a petition to force sony To share us the stages and phases about the new upgrade not as before waiting 3 months and no info,as you saw what happeb to xperia SP they delay the updates wothout any reason so guys who can help us to do it so we can get some info fron the source neither leaks nor rumors are you in guys so who can help us???
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They're already pushing updates faster than they ever have, their update process is pretty easy to follow if you put in the time and effort to research it a little. Unlike a lot of brands they put a large emphasis on optimisation which means that things run a lot smoother, note the limited number of bugs in the 4.3 software. Yet again another spam thread about where's my update, the long and short of it is you have to be patient and wait like the rest of us.
wright_ac is correct about this. Their updates has been more faster than the originally before. Even faster than optimization than the Samsung updates which tells you something already. I've been largely patient with the updates and with the newest update, I've been noting but impress with optimization and additional little UI changes which does have it quirks of wondering why they haven't done that in the first place haha. The only glimpse I have is to replace the vibration module which have been ordered. DIY here I come haha.
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Guys as we all face several delays and miss in informations about the new software upgrades we wish to sign a petition to force sony To share us the stages and phases about the new upgrade not as before waiting 3 months and no info,as you saw what happeb to xperia SP they delay the updates wothout any reason so guys who can help us to do it so we can get some info fron the source neither leaks nor rumors are you in guys so who can help us???
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Since when did a petition ever force any person or any company to do anything?
All it is likely to do is telegraph the impatience of the self obsessed.
7 updates, including 2 upgrades to new versions of Android in less than a year aren't enough for you?
4.1.2
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How fast do you expect Sony to release updates if that isn't enough for you?
My previous device was a LG P990. It received 2 updates in the 2 years that I had it. Both were bug ridden messes that shouldn't have even been betas, never mind released.
So think yourself lucky with what you get from Sony.
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Unlike a lot of brands they put a large emphasis on optimisation which means that things run a lot smoother, note the limited number of bugs in the 4.3 software.
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Spot on!
Just as the Playstation 1 with the limited hardware got better and better games and graphics, so does the Z stock ROM get better and faster.
I love this device.
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7 updates, including 2 upgrades to new versions of Android in less than a year aren't enough for you?
4.1.2
350 -> 434 -> 253 -> 307
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423 -> 244 -> 67
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569
How fast do you expect Sony to release updates if that isn't enough for you?
My previous device was a LG P990. It received 2 updates in the 2 years that I had it. Both were bug ridden messes that shouldn't have even been betas, never mind released.
So think yourself lucky with what you get from Sony.
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instead of wasting time with incremental updates, they should focus their attention to more timely updates.
I'm on 4.2 waiting on 4.3.
4.3??!! , i should be getting 4.4 now!
samxool said:
instead of wasting time with incremental updates, they should focus their attention to more timely updates.
I'm on 4.2 waiting on 4.3.
4.3??!! , i should be getting 4.4 now!
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lol... you should buy a nexus or GPE phone if you want the latest greatest android version instantly, if you want Sony's refined software, we need to give Sony time to work on it.
TO should stop whining and start learning how to develop new ROM's himself. You sound like a little kid.
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They're already pushing updates faster than they ever have, their update process is pretty easy to follow if you put in the time and effort to research it a little. Unlike a lot of brands they put a large emphasis on optimisation which means that things run a lot smoother, note the limited number of bugs in the 4.3 software. Yet again another spam thread about where's my update, the long and short of it is you have to be patient and wait like the rest of us.
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Sony firmware is just as buggy and comes with as many issues as updates from other manufacturers so your optimization argument is just bull.
The truth is flagship for flagship, Sony is much later than its competitors as far as updates go.
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instead of wasting time with incremental updates, they should focus their attention to more timely updates.
I'm on 4.2 waiting on 4.3.
4.3??!! , i should be getting 4.4 now!
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You heard it here, Sony. Don't bother fixing any bugs or bother with any quality assurance. Get those updates out the door now!
Seriously, it's plain from your post history that you have no idea what it takes to prepare, test and release an update, especially an upgrade to a new version of Android. Just stop commenting altogether until you do. Or even better go and complain on Sony's support forum like you've been told to many times in the past.
This is a development forum, primarily for people to share work they have produced and for similarly interested people to share knowledge and to learn, not a place for people with no clue to vent about things that nobody here has any control over.
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Sony firmware is just as buggy and comes with as many issues as updates from other manufacturers so your optimization argument is just bull.
The truth is flagship for flagship, Sony is much later than its competitors as far as updates go.
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Here's someone else that only comes here to complain about Sony when updates are on the horizon. Hooray!
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Sony firmware is just as buggy and comes with as many issues as updates from other manufacturers so your optimization argument is just bull.
The truth is flagship for flagship, Sony is much later than its competitors as far as updates go.
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Right, let's look at it this way is there any major bug in the 4.3 Rom that is detrimental to performance/usability, not really. If you look at how smooth 4.3 runs compared to 4.2.2 you'll see what I mean, if it's "bull" as you so call it then move to another manufacturer like HTC or Samsung. If people looked at what went into it all and saw the amount of work it takes you'd all stop complaining less.
I think more than 50% of the people forget that SONY always more than 3 phones support with updates.
How kingvortex said, there is a lot of time and management needed to realese a update or upgrade.
Do not forget this guys! That is really hard work for SONY.
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You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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Ok some question.
What visible changes has htc made in the 4.3 update?
-None
What new great things were contained in the new update?
-Almost none
I've seen bloatwiz and sense updates and wasn't impressed at all.
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You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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Do not forget, not every human buys every year a new phone. What I wanna say: HTC and Samsung does not give that update support as SONY. They update more or less the flagship and let the other phones waste after a year.
Also the most of people want a stable and smooth ROM. If SONY would release Android 4.4 after 1 week, I do not think that all would be stable.
And I prefer 1 good update than one which is not finished and I have to wait again for an update.
Here it doesn't matter if we are fanboys or not. That's fact yes, but what is better? 3 updates/phone in a year or 15 updates/phone in 2-3 years and be more or less up 2 date for long time?. If you don't like that, buy next time an other phone or unlock your bootloader and flash custom ROMs or buy a GPE.
Tommy-Geenexus said it, SONY give us also much of (new) features. They gave us the whole UI from the new Z1 with the 4.3 update.. That isn't of course. And also do not forget, SONY have to "change" all from "Android design" in to the "SONY design", that needs a lot of time.
I like the update policy because I know, every time when I read SONY will give us a new update, there will be a lot of new changes that can make me happy.
But however. Everyone should have their own opinion, they should just be realistic.
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You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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Looking at your post history, you seem to have a long history of buying Sony phones and coming here to whine about every little thing.
Yet you still keep on buying Sony phones.
Why is this exactly? You would have thought anyone that seems to dislike a manufacturers practices so much would have moved on by now.
You like to throw the word fanboy around a lot, when people are simply disagreeing with what you say. This just looks like you defending you irrational hatred of Sony. I mean, you don't post here for months at a time and only pop up when updates are released to whine and moan in every slightly related thread. Sell your phone and move on if it causes you to do that!
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You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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The great and powerful zoltar sees an iPhone in your future.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49017766#post49017766
It's been closed on the forum it started in....
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You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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Stop talking trash. I prefer Sony way of updating, it takes time but SURELY get its job done. The changes in UI and optimization speaks the truth.
Mind you, currently I have samsung note 3, samsung update (ex: MK7) was trash. Battery drain was a huge let-down.
Right I know it's too early to guess regarding the development of the Z2, but I checked out the Z1 subforum, and I'm unimpressed to be honest.
The Z1 was released September 2013. The HTC M8 was released April this year. The M8 is fast approaching the number of threads/kernels/ROMS.
Why are the Sony devices being left behind? I'm still waiting for my Z2, but I have something in the back of mind telling me the M8 will excel with development and stay updated/refreshed longer.
Any thoughts?
I have an M8 and a Z1 - awaiting my preorder of the Z2.
I'm actually selling the m8 as I actually prefer the Z1 over it. For me I much prefer look and feel and to be fair the only thing that I feel I will miss will be the gestures etc. However I believe some of those will be on the Z2 so no biggie.
The other is the screen as the z1 is inferior in that dept. But most important for me the Z1 pisses all over the M8 camera everyday.
So for me development or not I'm happy with stock and the far superior camera (like I said that is very important to me).
Can't wait to get my Z2.
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This is something I am worried about too. Doesnt look like many developers / cooks are going for sony devices. M8 and S5 forums are already brimming with kernels / mods / roms (I know z2 is yet to be released worldwide) but there is only a very limited amount available even for z1.
Part fun of being in this community is the development. To be honest, I find it more interesting to follow a device that's an underdog from the beginning. I went and looked in the Z1 development part of XDA and I saw CM11 ,paranoidandroid... Thats enough for me by far. It will be fun to study how Z2 develops.
I have no fear, only joy.
This also bugs me a lot. I currently have HTC desire HD which came with 2.2. So far I have flashed 2.3 4.0.4 4.1 4.2 4.3 and 4.4. Till 4.1 I have flashed both sense and asop roms. Does Z2 will keep up like this?
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The good old Desire HD one of the best phones I've had. I'm still using a sensation at the moment because of the brilliant devs on this site.
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Lack of need for "development" was one of the reasons why I ordered a Z2.After four years of Samsung on my i9000 and i9300 and the need to root it to remove the bloat,wherafter "enjoying " the "development of CM / PA/ Slimrom etc ,and the frustration of the poor results of this development,
I decided to go for the best phone available atm because Sony stays very close to "stock "android the way I enjoy it on my N7.
Maybe from now on I can only enjoy this beautifull phone without ending up running around in circles as a "flash.a.holic" again.
For those who wish to persist in their "flashing" habits : good luck with it....
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The good old Desire HD one of the best phones I've had. I'm still using a sensation at the moment because of the brilliant devs on this site.
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Sony plan on releasing a new flagship every 6 months so they will quickly leave you behind in official updates, so really one would hope that they can benefit from ROMs.
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Lack of need for "development" was one of the reasons why I ordered a Z2.After four years of Samsung on my i9000 and i9300 and the need to root it to remove the bloat,wherafter "enjoying " the "development of CM / PA/ Slimrom etc ,and the frustration of the poor results of this development,
I decided to go for the best phone available atm because Sony stays very close to "stock "android the way I enjoy it on my N7.
Maybe from now on I can only enjoy this beautifull phone without ending up running around in circles as a "flash.a.holic" again.
For those who wish to persist in their "flashing" habits : good luck with it....
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Meant to quote you in post above
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Samsung S3 ownwers are left behind on 4.3,their choice : stay on 4.3 or use any of the CM/PA/Slimrom 4.4.2 Roms.
This leads to a phone with the latest android version,the price you have to pay for it: camera malfunction,bluetooth sound stutters and sound issues for heavy gamers are only a few of the problems.I went up and down between 4.3 and 4.4.2 many times and learned my lesson ;better stay on the version thats working properly ( Samsungs Rom )
Sony updates all Z phones to Kitkat in may,so even with a Z of one year old you are not left behind.
Even if Sony leaves me behind at any time in future I will remember the lessons learned....
I'll release an early cm build next week if all goes well
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brouwerchris said:
Samsung S3 ownwers are left behind on 4.3,their choice : stay on 4.3 or use any of the CM/PA/Slimrom 4.4.2 Roms.
This leads to a phone with the latest android version,the price you have to pay for it: camera malfunction,bluetooth sound stutters and sound issues for heavy gamers are only a few of the problems.I went up and down between 4.3 and 4.4.2 many times and learned my lesson ;better stay on the version thats working properly ( Samsungs Rom )
Sony updates all Z phones to Kitkat in may,so even with a Z of one year old you are not left behind.
Even if Sony leaves me behind at any time in future I will remember the lessons learned....
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Samsung S3 has the exynos chipset, that makes it harder to develop for, but the kitkat roms on there aren't as buggy as you say, they will most likely be stable by the time Sony finally rolls out their kitkat update to the Z (possibly it's last update ever knowing Sony). I personally hate the idea of buying a Smartphone and in a year it feels ancient and like a thing from the past, I am not rich enough to update my phone so often and most contracts are lasting 2 years. The aftercare you get from Sony is too poor for me personally
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I'll release an early cm build next week if all goes well
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Any idea of rooting this phone with locked bootloader? so we all can happily back up the TA partition.
While we're on the subject, is there a guide I can read explaining this Sony stuff? Mainly regarding the root process/DRM keys etc etc?
I'm new to Sony
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While we're on the subject, is there a guide I can read explaining this Sony stuff? Mainly regarding the root process/DRM keys etc etc?
I'm new to Sony
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This is all about DRM/TA partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
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I'll release an early cm build next week if all goes well
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@krabappel2548: Might be too early to ask you this question, but doesn't do any harm to ask I guess.
I really can't wait to replace the stock ROM with CM, but on the other hand I wouldn't want to loose functionality that is ROM specific, most importantly camera functions. As far as I understand it is not possible to install the Sony stock camera in another ROM because it comes with a whole framework (which I guess can't be ported?!). In addition to that I'm under the impression that previous versions of the xperia Z shot better pictures in low light with the stock ROM.
Do you know if we're gonna loose the camera app and it's features or is it possible to port it over to CM?
If you could shed some light onto this issue, I would appreciate that.
Hopefully there'll be GP edition of this!
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@krabappel2548: Might be too early to ask you this question, but doesn't do any harm to ask I guess.
I really can't wait to replace the stock ROM with CM, but on the other hand I wouldn't want to loose functionality that is ROM specific, most importantly camera functions. As far as I understand it is not possible to install the Sony stock camera in another ROM because it comes with a whole framework (which I guess can't be ported?!). In addition to that I'm under the impression that previous versions of the xperia Z shot better pictures in low light with the stock ROM.
Do you know if we're gonna loose the camera app and it's features or is it possible to port it over to CM?
If you could shed some light onto this issue, I would appreciate that.
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No, stock camera app won't work on cm, but you can always use 3rd party apps
I'm almost finished with device tree for Z2
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No, stock camera app won't work on cm, but you can always use 3rd party apps
I'm almost finished with device tree for Z2
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Well, it seems like the Sony camera is way better than any 3rd party camera out there, that's why I asked. I'll open up a new thread and see where that takes us.
btw. do you think we will be able to backup the TA partition on the Z2? I still haven't rooted my device
I think as Android improves with every iteration, OEMs are slowly learning that simple is good. The stock feature set on the Z2 is fantastic, as in the camera. Less and less people are going to be willing to sacrifice things like the native camera app when the perceived benefit of switching to a custom ROM diminishes.
Personally, the first thing I did when I got my Z2 was install Google Now Launcher for a vanilla Android look and feel, but I wouldn't even consider doing a build of my ROM for this phone at this point in time because the stock features are brilliant a they are.
I don't think lack of development is an indicator of an unsuccessful phone anymore, but rather the opposite.
HTC devices are inherently going to have a lot of development as long as they continue with Sense, because Sense is such a user polarizer.
I think the current state of the factory ROM after .55 update is quite stable with some small issues. I am content with the current ROM. It is snappy, no lag and smooth. No carton-ish icons or effects like the Samsung phones