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http://youtu.be/_NHYYbleY7c
Just for laughs i posted this in the Nexus 5 forum and some of those guys did not take to kindly
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Just for laughs i posted this in the Nexus 5 forum and some of those guys did not take to kindly
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Everyone seems to have a rabid desire to defend their purchase.
i actually bought a nexus 5...but am strongly debating returning it and going moto x...lets see what this video makes me think. thanks op.
StephenMilone said:
i actually bought a nexus 5...but am strongly debating returning it and going moto x...lets see what this video makes me think. thanks op.
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No problem! hit the thanks button lol ps I had decided before this video to return my nexus 5 and keep my moto X this just solidified my feelings
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Everyone seems to have a rabid desire to defend their purchase.
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People don't want to think that they "wasted" their money. Their happiness/enjoyment of the device comes second
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People don't want to think that they "wasted" their money. Their happiness/enjoyment of the device comes second
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I wasted my money and bought an N5. I think im gonna refuse delivery though. I dont think I can live with a big phone again and I dont think I can live without active notifications.
Like the video...seems fair. Given the fact that 4.4 is coming our way, specs are relatively less important. X really shines
I'm thinking about buying a Nexus 5 to play with My ATT X will probably still be my daily driver but the locked bootloader just doesn't scratch that flashaholic itch my GNex did.
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mentose457 said:
I wasted my money and bought an N5. I think im gonna refuse delivery though. I dont think I can live with a big phone again and I dont think I can live without active notifications.
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Lol hope I don't get flamed for that wasted statement.
I'm fairly tired of my GNex's size. Anything bigger is a no go.
I have an unlocked boot and haven't flashed anything on "my precious" lol
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Nice comparison, thanks for the video link OP. Glad I decided on the X ( of course I didn't need the video to tell me that LOL).
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Glad you guys are liking it !
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yawdapaah said:
Lol hope I don't get flamed for that wasted statement.
I'm fairly tired of my GNex's size. Anything bigger is a no go.
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No, I agree with you. I did waste money on the N5.
Send it back bro your still within 30 days
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I have the Moto X on Verizon and bought the Nexus 5 and had to get T-Mobile on it. So my vote is skewed because Verizon is 10x better here. But I love both, I do miss the Moto X's notifications and camera flip when using the Nexus. However I like the Nexus' camera much better but it feels almost too big in my hand. Plus the Moto X getting 4.4 will make software comparisons pointless. So honestly right now I'm kinda leaning towards selling the Nexus and staying with the X. But I have 29 days left on my prepaid T-Mobile so we'll see as it goes
This thread just got shut down in the nexus 5 forums because a few zealots couldn't have a good discussion with the rest of the adults
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AndreaCristiano said:
This thread just got shut down in the nexus 5 forums because a few zealots couldn't have a good discussion with the rest of the adults
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I had a look at that thread. Some of those guys were pretty rabid.
Reposted from same thread in N5 forum-
Yeah I'm gonna have to agree with all these points here. I MUCH prefer the screen on the Moto X to the one on the N5. I get that colors may be more accurate on the N5 but I'm not a photographer and my phone isn't supposed to be a reference monitor. The Moto X's screen just pops and its black levels are ridiculous. It's absolutely gorgeous and it is very difficult to use the N5 next to the Moto X. Lets not forget about the fact that the amoled technology allows for active notifications which are hands down the best thing since sliced bread. When not comparing it directly to the Moto X's screen, the N5's is passable, but its bad black levels and poor viewing angles are somethings that will take me a while to get used to.
I also agree about the speed. Anybody who makes the claim that the X uses outdated tech has no clue. It has krait 300 cores which are the same ones that are in the S600 which was this years main flagship SoC. Now it's not an S800, but it is current tech and the way Moto designed it with its extra "contextual computing" cores makes it MORE advanced than basic S600s. The fact that its dual core setup runs circles around the quad core that's in the GS4 and HTC One speaks volumes about optimization vs. raw power. I'm not talking about BS benchmarks here, I am talking about actual use because that is what matters. Side by side with the N5 there is no noticeable speed difference and both phones are equally smooth and lag free. I will say this though, for gaming the N5 is an absolute beast. The X handles gaming well too with its adreno 320 only having to deal with a 720p screen, but man this N5 might be the ultimate gaming phone thus far (Note 3 is too big for my liking). I've hidden my navbar so I game on it full screen. NOVA3, MW4, and NFS:MW are friggin unreal on this thing. If gaming is your primary concern, the N5 is definitely the way to go.
Cameras are a wash for me because I don't take many pictures. They are both acceptable to me. Can't say which one is better because I don't know. I like the fact that the N5 has OIS, but mainly because it adds extra bragging rights. No clue if it actually helps or not.
The biggest thing for me between these two phones besides the screen is the feel. Where the N5 literally feels like a hollow store mockup to me, the X feels like a solid premium device. Its contours make it hands down the nicest feeling device in hand that I have ever used. The N5 at first felt very uncomfortable to hold but as I get used to it more and more I am starting to like the way it feels as well. I definitely like the way it feels in hand better than my old HTC One and GS4 Active, just not better than the Moto X. There is nothing that feels like a Moto X.
Just to clarify, I really do like the N5. It has been growing on me since I got it the other day. It's just hard for me to use it when I have a Moto X sitting right here too. Both are great devices, they both have their own merits, but for me the Moto X is still king. It's really the screen that kills it the most for me with the N5. If LG used a screen as nice as say the HTC One's, I might be singing a completely different tune here. I will definitely be using the N5 whenever I want to play a graphically intensive game though, because holy sh!t it handles them like a boss. You really can't go wrong with either phone, I think they are the two best phone currently available.
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Yes I don't understand the blatant childishness. If you can't discuss like an adult the people who are causing the issue should be dealt with not the thread being closed
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Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review
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Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
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Thanks for posting... As we can expect from AT, it was a more technically oriented review and had some of their usual good insights at the component level. Maybe the technical slant of their reviews colored the conclusion, but I felt the review didn't speak enough to the overall strength of the user experience. Not that it was a bad review - it definitely covered the quantitative aspects of the battery, screen, camera and SOC performance - but I think what was missing was balancing that against the experience of actually using the Moto X as a phone.
My plan is to jump on one in another month or two after my current contract expires, so for me there's time to wait for more reviews from actual users to get a true picture.
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Thanks for posting... As we can expect from AT, it was a more technically oriented review and had some of their usual good insights at the component level. Maybe the technical slant of their reviews colored the conclusion, but I felt the review didn't speak enough to the overall strength of the user experience. Not that it was a bad review - it definitely covered the quantitative aspects of the battery, screen, camera and SOC performance - but I think what was missing was balancing that against the experience of actually using the Moto X as a phone.
My plan is to jump on one in another month or two after my current contract expires, so for me there's time to wait for more reviews from actual users to get a true picture.
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I tend to agree with you. It is easy to criticize someone on the choices they make but you have to appreciate the effort that they have put in. They may not have made the best android phone but they have gotten a lot of things right. Moto X 2013 was my favorite phone last year since it was a good balance between all the things I wanted in a phone and after going through everything from S5 to M8, I'm hoping Moto X 2014 will be the perfect balance one more time. IMHO, of course.
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I tend to agree with you. It is easy to criticize someone on the choices they make but you have to appreciate the effort that they have put in. They may not have made the best android phone but they have gotten a lot of things right. Moto X 2013 was my favorite phone last year since it was a good balance between all the things I wanted in a phone and after going through everything from S5 to M8, I'm hoping Moto X 2014 will be the perfect balance one more time. IMHO, of course.
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I agree
These battery tests with scripts are not even real world usage, no matter what they say. Scripts running could bring in other factors, like wakelocks, blah blah blah. So it boils down to users, and their usage. I am betting it'll be fine with me
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I agree
These battery tests with scripts are not even real world usage, no matter what they say. Scripts running could bring in other factors, like wakelocks, blah blah blah. So it boils down to users, and their usage. I am betting it'll be fine with me
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+1, I would be happier with a bigger battery but I'm fine with 2.300mha. According to extensive reviews I saw already I don't believe battery would be a problem but yes I'm worried about the camera. I saw a lot of noise of sample pictures and I take a lot of photos of my children. I'm not saying the camera is bad, it is really great for the price but if I could pay a little more and get a better camera I'd do it right away.
Because of camera I'm thinking about Galaxy Note 4. Great cam and great screen but I had a Galaxy s4 before and I, like many others, dislike touchwiz and the slow updates. Right now I don't know exactly what to do, the price of moto x is extremely appealing and Android L won't take long to show up. I'm fine with battery, I'm fine with the single speaker (it's on front anyway) but the camera is holding me back. Maybe not for so long - but I want to check more sample pictures before jump on the boat.
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+1, I would be happier with a bigger battery but I'm fine with 2.300mha. According to extensive reviews I saw already I don't believe battery would be a problem but yes I'm worried about the camera. I saw a lot of noise of sample pictures and I take a lot of photos of my children. I'm not saying the camera is bad, it is really great for the price but if I could pay a little more and get a better camera I'd do it right away.
Because of camera I'm thinking about Galaxy Note 4. Great cam and great screen but I had a Galaxy s4 before and I, like many others, dislike touchwiz and the slow updates. Right now I don't know exactly what to do, the price of moto x is extremely appealing and Android L won't take long to show up. I'm fine with battery, I'm fine with the single speaker (it's on front anyway) but the camera is holding me back. Maybe not for so long - but I want to check more sample pictures before jump on the boat.
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I feel you. The camera isn't that bad, when I saw pics. It depends on the lighting. But maybe consider buying a small, cheap camera? Moto X + cheap camera = a Note 4 probably. But having two devices is a cause of concern, so I understand
My battery on my n4 is 2100mah and it can't even get half of what Moto X gets. That's pretty good to me, since n4 battery is only 200mah less
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I feel you. The camera isn't that bad, when I saw pics. It depends on the lighting. But maybe consider buying a small, cheap camera? Moto X + cheap camera = a Note 4 probably. But having two devices is a cause of concern, so I understand
My battery on my n4 is 2100mah and it can't even get half of what Moto X gets. That's pretty good to me, since n4 battery is only 200mah less
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You're absolutely right, having two devices is exactly the problem to me. And don't get me wrong, when I talk to much about the camera maybe seems like I want a fantastic and ultimate quality camera but something on par with GS4 that is two years old now or more would be perfect fine to me. I'm complaining but in the end I think I'll do get a moto x. Like we said before, it's not the best android available but when you see the big picture it's a really great and balanced set.
Wow. Thanks for the link to review which I read in its entirety. This is giving me pause and I just received email from moto that my order is in assembly stage. I may cancel the order and wait for Nexus. I also think this phone will be discounted by Xmas like last year. ;(
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Wow. Thanks for the link to review which I read in its entirety. This is giving me pause and I just received email from moto that my order is in assembly stage. I may cancel the order and wait for Nexus. I also think this phone will be discounted by Xmas like last year. ;(
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What do you mean discontinued? The OG x was never discontinued was it?
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What do you mean discontinued? The OG x was never discontinued was it?
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He said "discounted" lol
Idk if the new Moto X will get discounted by much, since looking at the chipset, it's really up to date. Even the s5 hardly got a discount. I don't expect it
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He said "discounted" lol
Idk if the new Moto X will get discounted by much, since looking at the chipset, it's really up to date. Even the s5 hardly got a discount. I don't expect it
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True. But if sales are slow like last year I wouldn't be surprised at a slight reduction to move them during the holidays to compete with you know who.
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The thing I found most notable about this review was the complete dismissal of Moto Voice. For me, this was one of the best attributes of the original Moto X, and it worked well enough to impress iPhone users with its text-message-by-voice feature that mostly "Just Worked." Mileage may vary, obviously, for anyone who spends any time in a car this is a potentially very useful feature.
It'd be nice if the battery life reports had come back better, but they seem more or less as performant as the original model which for me was adequate if not ideal. Throw in the turbo charger, which will theoretically provide a useful enough charge of a 15 minute power up and I'm sold.
Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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If pocketnow tested the battery by actually using the phone and not by scripts (which I presume he did), then that just shows that running custom made scripts brings in some other factors that will kill battery. I can't trust reviews solely basing battery on scripts. I've read many reports saying that the phone was used and lasted for over 10 hours or whatever
Thank you for bringing more good news on this phone and its battery lol
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Using scripts to test battery life is fine, but were they really expecting? If you keep two phones on with roughly the same SoC and roughly the same screensize, but one has a larger battery, of course the one with the larger battery is going to win.
I'm more interested in knowing how the Moto X is optimized. When the screen is off, how frequent are the wakelocks? How is the ROM tailored to optimize the phone's battery life when it's not in use?
Does anyone know a site that runs those kinds of tests?
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Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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I just read the review and it wasn't a ringing endorsement as they had some concerns expressed towards the end of the article:
http://pocketnow.com/2014/09/18/moto-x-2014-review
Is there another I am missing?
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joelteixeira said:
Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review
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I used to like anandtech because they could give real world meaning to synthetic benchmarks. I miss the user experience. Even the verge, which always seems very apple biased rated the moto x 8.8 (vs iphone6 9.0), when they verge likes an android phone that much you know it must be good (even if it doesn't have *the best* camera)
Pocketnow basically concluded. It's no better than the predecessor and I agree. Barely an improvement if any.. I had a bad feeling. Maybe Lenovo screwed this up, who knows.
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Pocketnow basically concluded. It's no better than the predecessor and I agree. Barely an improvement if any.. I had a bad feeling. Maybe Lenovo screwed this up, who knows.
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but... they gave it an 8.9 lol
edit: from listening to the review, they're only disappointed with the camera. and, like he says in the vid, their readers actually liked last years cam. i won't say i like the cam on my current one, but it's not total crap either. it's usable.
edit: and the battery. but he ends it with saying he's purchased it haha.
i personally think battery and camera can be slightly underwhelming considering the package as a whole. my only complaint deals more with the screen but we'll see how that turns out.
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The thing I found most notable about this review was the complete dismissal of Moto Voice. For me, this was one of the best attributes of the original Moto X, and it worked well enough to impress iPhone users with its text-message-by-voice feature that mostly "Just Worked." Mileage may vary, obviously, for anyone who spends any time in a car this is a potentially very useful feature.
It'd be nice if the battery life reports had come back better, but they seem more or less as performant as the original model which for me was adequate if not ideal. Throw in the turbo charger, which will theoretically provide a useful enough charge of a 15 minute power up and I'm sold.
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Ever since I ported my Google voice number over to a real number. I use moto voice non stop while driving. You can kind of make it work on other phones if you do the okay Google on any screen but you have to have it plugged in and have it set to never turn the screen off while charging. There are apps that will read out your texts but none seem as refined as moto assists features. If the next nexus somehow gets moto voice I'll probably end up with that but I'll probably sacrifice battery to get the next moto x. From reading. It seems it's on par with the 2013 moto x at least.
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Let the debate begin. Obviously these 3 devices will be the highest end you can buy.
As for me, I am completely torn between the 3 devices.
I am really upset that the Droid Turbo/Moto X Play will have better specs than the Nexus 6. (21mp camera, HUGE Battery)
Here are my thoughts.
Nexus 6
- Always will have latest version of Android
- 6 inch display is too damn big. (But will look very nice with 2k )
- Camera is nowhere near top of the line by today's standards.
- No removable battery or expandable storage
- Wireless charging!
- No IR blaster. (Sorry, this feature is awesome. Have you ever turned off a TV at the bar in the middle of the game?? )
- It's gorgeous
Moto X Play/Droid Turbo
- I would rather take 5.2 in display over 6 in
- Tablet sized batterry
- 21MP Camera!
- No guarantee it will always have latest version of Android
- Moto X Play will probably will take forever to come out after Droid Turbo because of Verizon exclusive. I want my new phone NOW
Note 4
- Great camera (Better than nexus 6)
- Replaceable battery and expandable storage
- IR Blaster
- It is also gorgeous
- Touchwiz has always, and will always suck.
- Flashing any AOSP/CM based rom will break a lot of the features. It will also degrade camera performance because of the new kernel
What y'all think?
I am only torn between 2. The moto x and the Nexus 6....I just can't stand touch wiz.
Really my only doubt is the size of the Nexus but it is a Nexus. Love my N5 and i still feel it has a lot of longevity but man oh man do I want that new hardware....
I'm torn with note 4 and nexus. I'm on verizon now and plan to move to t mobile. My fear with the turbo is major bloat and the inability to root and use recovery.
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I'm torn with note 4 and nexus. I'm on verizon now and plan to move to t mobile. My fear with the turbo is major bloat and the inability to root and use recovery.
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I am on Tmo. There should be a GSM variant of the Turbo coming out called the Moto X Play per an FCC filing.
I think it is safe to say that from a pure specs perspective, this phone is at the top.
Hmmm intriguing. Now I'm more confused and sad I have to wait. Haha
Its also worth noting that all of these moto phones coming out are still operating under Google ownership. This should be good thing with keeping the bloat to a minimum.
What is this Moto X Play thing, I never heard of that. As far as I understand the official name is Droid Turbo.
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Where did you even make this conclusion from? Have you actually used it or are you just basing it on Megapixel counts?
I have used the OnePlus before which use the Sony Exmor214 sensor, which is actually pretty high end. A lot of it will come down to post processing software. So we have to wait and see. Here is a 4K DCI example of the video recording using the same sensor as in the Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y4GvxAHFxU
I got some pretty high quality images from the OnePlus camera myself, even though it doesn't have the best post processing technology.
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What is this Moto X Play thing, I never heard of that. As far as I understand the official name is Droid Turbo.
Where did you even make this conclusion from? Have you actually used it or are you just basing it on Megapixel counts?
I have used the OnePlus before which use the Sony Exmor214 sensor, which is actually pretty high end. A lot of it will come down to post processing software. So we have to wait and see. Here is a 4K DCI example of the video recording using the same sensor as in the Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y4GvxAHFxU
I got some pretty high quality images from the OnePlus camera myself, even though it doesn't have the best post processing technology.
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Hey. Here is some info on the Moto X Play FCC filing.
I was under the impression that the Moto X and the Nexus 6 would have the same camera. From what I have seen in the review videos of the Moto X is that the camera is not good at all.
I will check out the sample you sent... should be interesting.
I'm torn between the nexus 6 and the moto x play. On the one hand the play (or whatever it will be called on Att and tmobile) has that awesome battery, super camera, more usable size. However it appears to lack LTE band 12 for the non vzw variant. That's a bummer because 700 mhz is awesome for building penetration and T-Mobile has bought a lot of it this year.
Nexus 6 has it plus a reasonable battery. I love my nexus 5 except for the battery could be 25% better.
One the size issue, I held an iPhone 6 plus the other day and it wasn't that bad. I could see myself getting used to it.
Note 4 is right out. Can't stand Samsung devices except for my galaxy nexus (still have).
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I have the note 3 and its tits, I'm getting the nexus 6. If I ever get annoyed, I can always go back to my note 3. Nexus 4 and 5 were a bore to me. I'm actually very boob excited for this nexus 6
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pedxing said:
I'm torn between the nexus 6 and the moto x play. On the one hand the play (or whatever it will be called on Att and tmobile) has that awesome battery, super camera, more usable size. However it appears to lack LTE band 12 for the non vzw variant. That's a bummer because 700 mhz is awesome for building penetration and T-Mobile has bought a lot of it this year.
Nexus 6 has it plus a reasonable battery. I love my nexus 5 except for the battery could be 25% better.
One the size issue, I held an iPhone 6 plus the other day and it wasn't that bad. I could see myself getting used to it.
Note 4 is right out. Can't stand Samsung devices except for my galaxy nexus (still have).
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The Moto X Play seems badass in theory, but it's pretty much just vapor right now. If it is an AT&T exclusive, it will be locked down incredibly tight and there likely won't be much development going on for it. I'm sure it will get rooted, but Motorola's bootloaders are notoriously difficult to crack. If ROMing is your thing, then the Moto X Play probably won't be. I don't know if you've considered the regular Moto X but I would give it an honest shot too. You can pick up the Pure edition which is free of carrier bloat and has an unlockable bootloader essentially making it a 5.2" Nexus phone. It is hands down the nicest feeling Android phone I've ever held in my hands, and its performance is top notch.
As far as the iPhone 6 is concerned, it's a seriously awesome piece of hardware. I always have at least one Android device as well as an iPhone since I love multiple things about both platforms and can honestly say that with the 6, there is less of an itch to pick up my Android phone than ever before. I think Apple knocked it out of the park with this one and can recommend it wholeheartedly. If I was stuck on a deserted island and had to choose either Android or iOS to keep with me I'd still choose Android, but it would be a tougher decision to make and live with now that I have the 6.
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I'm on verizon. Sold my note 3 because I could not stand touchwiz. Bought the moto x it is a fantastic phone but I miss being able to play with phones like my galaxy nexus. Im buying the nexus 6 the instant it is available.
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The Moto X Play seems badass in theory, but it's pretty much just vapor right now. If it is an AT&T exclusive, it will be locked down incredibly tight and there likely won't be much development going on for it. I'm sure it will get rooted, but Motorola's bootloader safe notoriously difficult to crack.
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Agree with you there. I was hoping for a play edition of the x play.... Maybe it's a unicorn though.
I'll probably preorder the nexus 6 and see how it goes and if the battery isn't good enough and the magical moto comes out with pure android I'll grab that and try it.
Hopefully Motorola will do it like the did with the g and the new x.
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pedxing said:
Agree with you there. I was hoping for a play edition of the x play.... Maybe it's a unicorn though.
I'll probably preorder the nexus 6 and see how it goes and if the battery isn't good enough and the magical moto comes out with pure android I'll grab that and try it.
Hopefully Motorola will do it like the did with the g and the new x.
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If and when it does come out, its software will be as close to stock as you can get without it being an official "pure android" device. Ditching Blur was the smartest thing Motorola did- they went from having the worst software to having the best software overnight. The additional software features that Motorola includes in their phones now actually make stock android better. Active display is the greatest thing in the world since man first discovered that oysters are edible.
Guys how would this compare to the Galaxy S5?
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Guys how would this compare to the Galaxy S5?
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It's not an essential upgrade of course, but this is XDA and usually most people upgrading here aren't doing it because they need to. From the Carphone Warehouse video, the camera is apparently almost as good as the Note 4's in daytime shots and slightly better in lowlight shots. So it should be comparable, if not a bit better, than the S5's. The Nexus 6 will certainly be a great deal bigger, so assess whether or not a big phone is for you (I'd test out an iPhone 6 Plus and a Note 4 and see if you think you can adjust). It's subjective, but I and many others vastly prefer stock Android over TouchWiz and that's always been a reason to buy a Nexus device for me. Take in mind you'll be giving up expandable storage and removable batteries. I'm not sure if that's important to you or not, though.
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Guys how would this compare to the Galaxy S5?
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As far as the iPhone 6 is concerned, it's a seriously awesome piece of hardware. I always have at least one Android device as well as an iPhone since I love multiple things about both platforms and can honestly say that with the 6, there is less of an itch to pick up my Android phone than ever before. I think Apple knocked it out of the park with this one and can recommend it wholeheartedly. If I was stuck on a deserted island and had to choose either Android or iOS to keep with me I'd still choose Android, but it would be a tougher decision to make and live with now that I have the 6.
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I'm specifically replying to agree with what you're saying about the iPhone 6. I've been using mine since launch (4.7", 128gb), and I almost hate how much I love it. The last time I tried out an iPhone was with the iPhone 5 and after three weeks I felt like I was being held back in functionality over Android and switched back to my original HTC One, sold the iPhone, and didn't look back. This time, though, I don't see myself doing that. I'm past the honeymoon phase and am still finding very few things to dislike. The screen, the camera, the battery life, the smoothness. It's all on point. I've been annoyed by a lack of customizability a couple times, but my lack of complaints in other areas allow it. This is the first device I've ever had that I don't believe has an Achilles heel. It's almost a shame that it's an iPhone, though. I'm hoping the Nexus 6 will be the Android equivalent.
I was torn between the Nexus 6 and the Xperia Z3, but after actually seeing the N6, that's what I'm going with!
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My opinion
Samsung is pleasing to the eye when it's not randomly rebooting/overheating and the biggest negative is TOUCHWIZ
Everything else other than Samsung is a plus
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Hey. Here is some info on the Moto X Play FCC filing.
I was under the impression that the Moto X and the Nexus 6 would have the same camera. From what I have seen in the review videos of the Moto X is that the camera is not good at all.
I will check out the sample you sent... should be interesting.
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No the Nexus 6 has a newer/better camera hardware than the Moto X.
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@gregk232
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Samsung is pleasing to the eye when it's not randomly rebooting/overheating and the biggest negative is TOUCHWIZ
Everything else other than Samsung is a plus
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The only thing I like about Touchwiz, is the Messaging App and the Photo Gallery/Editing Options. Everything else is just way over the top.
The debate is pretty simply...do you wish to get an OS update before you sell the device?
If so...then Samsung is right off the list.
So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
It's all about perception
For me the one word review is
SATISFACTION.
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Actually the camera on this phone is very good and not just average.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Google-Nexus-6P-review-Serious-contender-for-mobile-photography
Very satisfied with this phone. Android pay works with root, speedy and very good battery life for me. I can use different carriers. No bend for me as that is usually from non average handling and I always use a case.
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So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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Overall as a total package it is the best Android phone I have used. The battery life is a bit disappointing as I was expecting iPhone 6S Plus type battery but I'm still overall very pleased.
It's a very good phone IMHO, but with the bending issue, noise on the headphone jack and no Android pay with Xposed I feel pretty dumb for buying this instead of a oneplus 2. I have a oneplus one and that phone is solid. I skipped the op2 because of nfc and now I have a bent 6p and still no Android pay. Might not be such a big deal but the 6p costs so much more for similar specs.
Yeah the 6p has a "better" display, but I can't really sus out a big difference unless I'm really looking for it. The camera is also a bit better(mostly in low light).
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So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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Are you serious? 810 was the best SOC at the time from Qualcomm, nothing better. This is the newest Super AMOLED from Samsung. Uses larger pixels for camera, best in class for all situations which often are low light. This is so successful Samsung took note and reduced 16mp to 12mp for larger pixel and sensor. Only Moto X Pure has better speakers. Add that with the excellent battery and software, there is little doubt Nexus 6P was the best Android Phone of 2015. No other phone provided the full package. The fingerprint is icing on the cake, Google's imprint is the best fingerprint solution on any smartphone to date.
For custom roms, 6P is heaven. I used Purity in the past, not available for 6P, but I am using it anyway. Building roms for 6P for either CM/AOSP/OMNI based roms is an absolute breeze.
As for quality issues? No idea since I haven't seen any Nexus 6P in the wild that aren't in pristine condition and well perfect.
For those complaining about Android Pay and they rooted for Xposed? That is hilarious...
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Are you serious? 810 was the best SOC at the time from Qualcomm, nothing better. This is the newest Super AMOLED from Samsung. Uses larger pixels for camera, best in class for all situations which often are low light. This is so successful Samsung took note and reduced 16mp to 12mp for larger pixel and sensor. Only Moto X Pure has better speakers. Add that with the excellent battery and software, there is little doubt Nexus 6P was the best Android Phone of 2015. No other phone provided the full package. The fingerprint is icing on the cake, Google's imprint is the best fingerprint solution on any smartphone to date.
For custom roms, 6P is heaven. I used Purity in the past, not available for 6P, but I am using it anyway. Building roms for 6P for either CM/AOSP/OMNI based roms is an absolute breeze.
As for quality issues? No idea since I haven't seen any Nexus 6P in the wild that aren't in pristine condition and well perfect.
For those complaining about Android Pay and they rooted for Xposed? That is hilarious...
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The Android pay issue is not the phones fault but it's worth noting that in my case I went into it after having used Google wallet for years with exposed on multiple devices. I didn't want the op2 because no nfc, little did I know that it wouldn't matter with Android pay since it locked down the ability to use with root.
I'm not going to get into a war that neither side can win since it's our opinion... But in my opinion, they are insanely overrated, 6P included. I will just leave it at that.
Actually it's underrated and keeps getting better with time & xda! :silly:
If your heavily invested in your mobile OS, and want everything to work, buy an iPhone.
If you prefer Android, and still want everything to work, Nexus is your best bet. Otherwise, you risk OEM skins breaking things (AA, Wear, etc.), and possibly never seeing a firmware upgrade that gets things right.
Glad your OPO worked perfectly for you; it did not for many.
This is of course just how I see things, but it is due to years of experience with my ear very close to the ground. (C;
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I'm not going to get into a war that neither side can win since it's our opinion... But in my opinion, they are insanely overrated, 6P included. I will just leave it at that.
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Yes we know, you spend all your time on XDA trying to stop folks from buying Nexus and buying a Galaxy phone. It's very clear from your post history you don't actually contribute anything to XDA other than negativity about the 6P.
Is the Nexus 6p Overrated? ....................A IPhone is Overrated. Honestly I would have to say NO, you cant even go to a carrier and pick one up yet. Here is my reason for a a Nexus device:
-Service
Supports CDMA, GSM and Voice over WI-FI, Great for me since I have Verizon and it also would make it easy for me to drop Verizon and go somewhere else without spend 700$+ on their new phone.
-Price to performance
For 499$-649$ now compare to the Samsung S7 edge 800-900$ and performing nearly the same and difference are in the 1-3 sec range (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smY4FOeVdvs)
-Pretty Great display
It's a Samsung AMOLED Display, only thing you don't get is a super bright mode for the outdoors.
-Great Camera
It not the best camera but it’s a great camera. It’s able to take great picture at night and during the day. 1080p and 4k recording is great when not moving. But I notice EIS work with 1080 but it disables somehow with 4k. I don't have a 4k display yet so I don't really use 4k feature. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMHeX8gGy3k)
- Metal build
I'm still wondering how in the world people are bending their phones. It seems like a lot of people watching YouTube these day a little too much. I guess I’m a lucky person who never had that issue. I loved the build but i do rock a case on it, the metal does make it feels like it worth its price.
-Finger print scanner
Best thing that could happen to a smartphone. but it need to be integrated in to more app other the android pay.
-Front facing speaker
Only one other phone that could come close to this level of sound quality is a HTC device with boom sound.
-Battery
This is one of the hardest subject because we all don't use our phones the same. More you play games and watch video faster your battery goes down. Usually on an 8 hour work I get to 83% with light (email, phone call, text message, Facebook). Come home and play games and watch YouTube for 4-5 hours and get to 20% -15%
-No bloatware (include carrier software)
-You know you are get a next Android Update
-Google provides a monthly security Update
-Most active developer community on the internet
-Knowing that you will be able to unlock your bootloader
-Having ROMs and Kernel
It definitely isn't overrated, its extremely reasonably priced in comparison to hilarious outrageous prices charged by Samsung and Apple, its a premium phone without the premium price tag with the best software experience around on a mobile OS. Also the camera definitely isn't average.
People around me think it's overrated (and way overpriced) too, but that's just because I'm in China where no one appreciates the simplicity and speed of AOSP-based Android. The camera is even better with the aid of apps like Camera FV-5 (e.g. macro), and finger scanning speed beats iPhones to it. They like the new MI 5 for instance, but they've never been able to get their hands on one
But yeah, I hate the looks the more I look at it. I don't want it to look like a Huawei phone, lest look like a Mate 7.
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Yes we know, you spend all your time on XDA trying to stop folks from buying Nexus and buying a Galaxy phone. It's very clear from your post history you don't actually contribute anything to XDA other than negativity about the 6P.
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I spend all my time trying to stop people from buying this phone? Good job making up stories. I never once told someone not to buy it to my knowledge. I've given my opinion like you, but never flat out told someone not to buy it.
I have a right to my opinion that it's overrated. I've said this from the minute I became obsessed with Android phones years ago... People grossly overrate stock Android, hence Nexus phones as well.
For a small and quick example... The 6P is the first Nexus which doesn't have a downright embarrassing camera, yet people still said Nexus was the best. Camera is just one example. Let's not forget the laughable screens on the Nexus 4 and 5, and the color issues with the 6 and 6P.
Anyhow, glad you like your phone. You should if you're using it each day. Everyone has their own needs. I'm happy for you as much as you won't believe it lol. Remember, there is no wrong choice.
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I have a right to my opinion that it's overrated. I've said this from the minute I became obsessed with Android phones years ago... People grossly overrate stock Android, hence Nexus phones as well.
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Your arguments don't make much sense since Nexus phones were introduced as what Google meant android to be and as a development platform for app developers and for those who contribute to the AOSP project.
Nexus phones were advertised as the best stock android experience and that is true, this is as google meant android to be. Obviously a lot of folks want the Samsung/LG/HTC etc experience. It is ludicrous to say that is overrated, no brand of phone does stock android better. Anyone buying a Nexus device should know what it is they are buying.
Nexus as a mainstream device only came about because a following developed for the stock experience. Camera would not have been high on the list, promoting Android, and helping some manufactures gain brand recognition and growth was. It wasn't until Nexus 5 Google saw Nexus as a brand to go head to head with Apple. Nexus 6 first attempt, and Google managing to provide this level of camera experience and overall feel at $450 one year later is amazing.
Despite the amazing hardware and refinements, I still see Nexus phones as the best way to introduce someone to android on a budget. It comes with great hardware, 810/806, good battery life, fingerprint, monthly security updates, an open platform to use device as you wish (rooting, development), and a great simple point and shoot camera for all lighting conditions. I do not see how that is overrated.
If one wanted the absolute best camera, materials, quality controlled and tested build, and the prestige or popularism, Nexus clearly not the phone. Best to look at an iPhone frankly...
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So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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I had the LG G4 for 6 months, sold it and now am happily using a Nexus 6P. I missed my Nexus 5 and the "development" side of things, so going back to the Nexus family makes me happy.
Nexus is perfect for a specific type of user.... The smart ones! Besides the 6p has better low light camera response than g4/v10, which was best from last year.
It's a highly customizable device. Doesn't compare to Samsung or lg in this department. IPhone isn't even on the same planet, its the opposite of customizing.
Also the 6p's 810 v2 has received over 120,000 antutu benchmarks consistently without getting hot or rapid battery loss.
Lastly it will be current for at least 3 to 4 years (maybe more) with a custom ROM.
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Actually the camera on this phone is very good and not just average.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Google-Nexus-6P-review-Serious-contender-for-mobile-photography
Very satisfied with this phone. Android pay works with root, speedy and very good battery life for me. I can use different carriers. No bend for me as that is usually from non average handling and I always use a case.
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Haha sorry I was wrong when I said average camera. Better then average but maybe not up to s6 standard?
Everyone has different uses for their phone. Some likes phones with better camera who doesnt watch videos or play games... Some enjoy playing games and dont really use the camera. Some like to listen audio or surf the web.. Some who are rich and just needs a phone.
There is no 1 phone that is the best for everything. If it existed, it woudnt be cheap.. Just look at the 2 biggest players, Apple and Samsung.. their phones still has flaws and cost much more then Nexus devices, even though the nexus devices over the past years are getting up there... This device is just as good as any Samsung or iPhone (of the same year) IMHO...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...oogle-store-in-a-puff-of-underwhelming-smoke/
Its so sad to see Google our lord and savior pull the plug on our Nexus 9 :crying:
So guys did the Nexus 9 deserve all the hate it got?
Edit: this does not mean support for it has been dropped it just means you can't buy it at google anymore.
The stock experience of Nexus 9 is not great (quite bad actually). But with good custom rom and kernel i very much enjoy it.
For me, it deserved a lot of it. Mine is still working but just had to do one of the required, every-other-month wipes to prevent issues (lag, reboots). The screen size (and quality) is still perfect for me which is why I moved from n7 2013. Altering dpi settings helped with some lag, esp. Chrome. I can't help but wonder if one more GB of ram wouldn't have totally changed how this device works. For the $, it should have been there. It seems HTC did a particularly poor job with policy/warranty repairs.
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18 month support?
So Google have always said that they support their Nexus devices with official firmware for 18 months but does that mean from device release date or from when they stop manufacture and the device and cannot be purchased anymore?
It wouldn't be fair for someone to have bought the device last week only to find the official firmware would soon stop...
I know that the N9 will get Android 'N' but would that be it?
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So Google have always said that they support their Nexus devices with official firmware for 18 months but does that mean from device release date or from when they stop manufacture and the device and cannot be purchased anymore?
It wouldn't be fair for someone to have bought the device last week only to find the official firmware would soon stop...
I know that the N9 will get Android 'N' but would that be it?
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At this point I would consider it to be possible for the N9 to get O, but ultimately we'll have to wait and see
I don't think the device on its own is that bad, (apart from the lightbleed.) All the hate should be directed at Google for not sorting out the issues and not asking HTC for a 3GB device from day 1. :crying:
My N9 has been OK. A bit of light bleed but not an issue. Run custom Rom from new and it does everything goes I want it to do smoothly.
I love the device but for a tablet, I feel they kinda skimped on the specs a little... to a degree that its pretty noticeable especially with many of the latest changes to android requiring more processing power and the fact that a tablet ought to be able to easily handle multi-tasking. It almost seems like their design is more proof of concept based rather than user satisfaction. Either that or they are doing too much and drop the ball on some stuff.
I regret paying so much and getting so little. I will never buy a new device, only after 6 months!
^ Yes, what he said. At $250, this is a great tablet, but for $400 this tablet is a total disappointment.
You don't pay for a BMW, and expect to get a Toyota.
Sure, 3 GB of RAM would have gone a long way to improving this device, but the shoddy construction of the first batch of N9's is simply inexcusable.
Not to mention, the poor quality of the motherboards, which are now failing, leaving many users with a device that crashes when battery gets below 40%.
The reason I'm not buying a pixel c, is because of my experience with the N9.
If 6 months from now, the pixel c still proves to be a quality product, then I'll look at picking one up (once they're on sale, of course)
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^ Yes, what he said. At $250, this is a great tablet, but for $400 this tablet is a total disappointment.
You don't pay for a BMW, and expect to get a Toyota.
Sure, 3 GB of RAM would have gone a long way to improving this device, but the shoddy construction of the first batch of N9's is simply inexcusable.
Not to mention, the poor quality of the motherboards, which are now failing, leaving many users with a device that crashes when battery gets below 40%.
The reason I'm not buying a pixel c, is because of my experience with the N9.
If 6 months from now, the pixel c still proves to be a quality product, then I'll look at picking one up (once they're on sale, of course)
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I enjoy mine, and I like large tablets. With the rumored new Nexus 7, I'll probably grab a pixel c around Christmas if there's no new large Nexus. 7" just doesn't make sense to me with the size of phones.
no, I got two and they are great devices..
No. Though the stock firmware has a bad experience, we still have lots of custom roms and they're great.
If I would have paid $400 for mine I would definitely hate it, but I got it for around $250 directly from HTC in one of those flash sales and I've been pretty happy.
Even if it hurts to say it, as an android fan, for $400 I would rather save a little bit more and grab an Ipad. I had an Ipad 2 for like 3 years and that damn thing never quit, still lasted like 11hrs Sot and even months sleeping (for real). Finally gave it to my GF and her 5yo niece uses and abuses it and that thing still works flawlessly, it's incredible.
Whilst owning the N9 and running CM13, I also picked up a LG v500 for only £70. I put CM13 on the v500 and the performance shows up the N9 for smoothness, consistency and multitasking. This goes against all the benchmarks where the N9 is significantly faster.
With nothing running, the N9 is smoother. Load up a ton of things in the Ram, and it all comes crashing down for the N9 whereas the v500 is still as smooth and speedy as when little is in Ram.
As the N9 was gathering dust, I got rid. R.I.P. Nexus 9.
seems like disabling certain content providers and their corresponding services/receivers for the google play services app has made more than a significant improvement for me. I usually try not to mess with that stuff since it could really screw stuff up too. also, do not deny permissions for anything google. use xposed AppOps to control those. completetely different experience. sad that Google's objective is far more important than user experience.
I paid full price on release day. I hate my decision. This is life. Learn by mistakes.
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I paid full price on release day. I hate my decision. This is life. Learn by mistakes.
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So did I and I love mine!
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So did I and I love mine!
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Just curious, can you tell me what rom are you using in your nexus 9 ? Don't tell me the kernel also, I know that already.
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Just curious, can you tell me what rom are you using in your nexus 9 ? Don't tell me the kernel also, I know that already.
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I was using Pure Nexus
But I built myself AOSP so I'm using that at the moment
Kernel what how lol