So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
It's all about perception
For me the one word review is
SATISFACTION.
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Actually the camera on this phone is very good and not just average.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Google-Nexus-6P-review-Serious-contender-for-mobile-photography
Very satisfied with this phone. Android pay works with root, speedy and very good battery life for me. I can use different carriers. No bend for me as that is usually from non average handling and I always use a case.
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Loser.lon said:
So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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Overall as a total package it is the best Android phone I have used. The battery life is a bit disappointing as I was expecting iPhone 6S Plus type battery but I'm still overall very pleased.
It's a very good phone IMHO, but with the bending issue, noise on the headphone jack and no Android pay with Xposed I feel pretty dumb for buying this instead of a oneplus 2. I have a oneplus one and that phone is solid. I skipped the op2 because of nfc and now I have a bent 6p and still no Android pay. Might not be such a big deal but the 6p costs so much more for similar specs.
Yeah the 6p has a "better" display, but I can't really sus out a big difference unless I'm really looking for it. The camera is also a bit better(mostly in low light).
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So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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Are you serious? 810 was the best SOC at the time from Qualcomm, nothing better. This is the newest Super AMOLED from Samsung. Uses larger pixels for camera, best in class for all situations which often are low light. This is so successful Samsung took note and reduced 16mp to 12mp for larger pixel and sensor. Only Moto X Pure has better speakers. Add that with the excellent battery and software, there is little doubt Nexus 6P was the best Android Phone of 2015. No other phone provided the full package. The fingerprint is icing on the cake, Google's imprint is the best fingerprint solution on any smartphone to date.
For custom roms, 6P is heaven. I used Purity in the past, not available for 6P, but I am using it anyway. Building roms for 6P for either CM/AOSP/OMNI based roms is an absolute breeze.
As for quality issues? No idea since I haven't seen any Nexus 6P in the wild that aren't in pristine condition and well perfect.
For those complaining about Android Pay and they rooted for Xposed? That is hilarious...
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Are you serious? 810 was the best SOC at the time from Qualcomm, nothing better. This is the newest Super AMOLED from Samsung. Uses larger pixels for camera, best in class for all situations which often are low light. This is so successful Samsung took note and reduced 16mp to 12mp for larger pixel and sensor. Only Moto X Pure has better speakers. Add that with the excellent battery and software, there is little doubt Nexus 6P was the best Android Phone of 2015. No other phone provided the full package. The fingerprint is icing on the cake, Google's imprint is the best fingerprint solution on any smartphone to date.
For custom roms, 6P is heaven. I used Purity in the past, not available for 6P, but I am using it anyway. Building roms for 6P for either CM/AOSP/OMNI based roms is an absolute breeze.
As for quality issues? No idea since I haven't seen any Nexus 6P in the wild that aren't in pristine condition and well perfect.
For those complaining about Android Pay and they rooted for Xposed? That is hilarious...
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The Android pay issue is not the phones fault but it's worth noting that in my case I went into it after having used Google wallet for years with exposed on multiple devices. I didn't want the op2 because no nfc, little did I know that it wouldn't matter with Android pay since it locked down the ability to use with root.
I'm not going to get into a war that neither side can win since it's our opinion... But in my opinion, they are insanely overrated, 6P included. I will just leave it at that.
Actually it's underrated and keeps getting better with time & xda! :silly:
If your heavily invested in your mobile OS, and want everything to work, buy an iPhone.
If you prefer Android, and still want everything to work, Nexus is your best bet. Otherwise, you risk OEM skins breaking things (AA, Wear, etc.), and possibly never seeing a firmware upgrade that gets things right.
Glad your OPO worked perfectly for you; it did not for many.
This is of course just how I see things, but it is due to years of experience with my ear very close to the ground. (C;
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I'm not going to get into a war that neither side can win since it's our opinion... But in my opinion, they are insanely overrated, 6P included. I will just leave it at that.
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Yes we know, you spend all your time on XDA trying to stop folks from buying Nexus and buying a Galaxy phone. It's very clear from your post history you don't actually contribute anything to XDA other than negativity about the 6P.
Is the Nexus 6p Overrated? ....................A IPhone is Overrated. Honestly I would have to say NO, you cant even go to a carrier and pick one up yet. Here is my reason for a a Nexus device:
-Service
Supports CDMA, GSM and Voice over WI-FI, Great for me since I have Verizon and it also would make it easy for me to drop Verizon and go somewhere else without spend 700$+ on their new phone.
-Price to performance
For 499$-649$ now compare to the Samsung S7 edge 800-900$ and performing nearly the same and difference are in the 1-3 sec range (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smY4FOeVdvs)
-Pretty Great display
It's a Samsung AMOLED Display, only thing you don't get is a super bright mode for the outdoors.
-Great Camera
It not the best camera but it’s a great camera. It’s able to take great picture at night and during the day. 1080p and 4k recording is great when not moving. But I notice EIS work with 1080 but it disables somehow with 4k. I don't have a 4k display yet so I don't really use 4k feature. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMHeX8gGy3k)
- Metal build
I'm still wondering how in the world people are bending their phones. It seems like a lot of people watching YouTube these day a little too much. I guess I’m a lucky person who never had that issue. I loved the build but i do rock a case on it, the metal does make it feels like it worth its price.
-Finger print scanner
Best thing that could happen to a smartphone. but it need to be integrated in to more app other the android pay.
-Front facing speaker
Only one other phone that could come close to this level of sound quality is a HTC device with boom sound.
-Battery
This is one of the hardest subject because we all don't use our phones the same. More you play games and watch video faster your battery goes down. Usually on an 8 hour work I get to 83% with light (email, phone call, text message, Facebook). Come home and play games and watch YouTube for 4-5 hours and get to 20% -15%
-No bloatware (include carrier software)
-You know you are get a next Android Update
-Google provides a monthly security Update
-Most active developer community on the internet
-Knowing that you will be able to unlock your bootloader
-Having ROMs and Kernel
It definitely isn't overrated, its extremely reasonably priced in comparison to hilarious outrageous prices charged by Samsung and Apple, its a premium phone without the premium price tag with the best software experience around on a mobile OS. Also the camera definitely isn't average.
People around me think it's overrated (and way overpriced) too, but that's just because I'm in China where no one appreciates the simplicity and speed of AOSP-based Android. The camera is even better with the aid of apps like Camera FV-5 (e.g. macro), and finger scanning speed beats iPhones to it. They like the new MI 5 for instance, but they've never been able to get their hands on one
But yeah, I hate the looks the more I look at it. I don't want it to look like a Huawei phone, lest look like a Mate 7.
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zymphad said:
Yes we know, you spend all your time on XDA trying to stop folks from buying Nexus and buying a Galaxy phone. It's very clear from your post history you don't actually contribute anything to XDA other than negativity about the 6P.
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I spend all my time trying to stop people from buying this phone? Good job making up stories. I never once told someone not to buy it to my knowledge. I've given my opinion like you, but never flat out told someone not to buy it.
I have a right to my opinion that it's overrated. I've said this from the minute I became obsessed with Android phones years ago... People grossly overrate stock Android, hence Nexus phones as well.
For a small and quick example... The 6P is the first Nexus which doesn't have a downright embarrassing camera, yet people still said Nexus was the best. Camera is just one example. Let's not forget the laughable screens on the Nexus 4 and 5, and the color issues with the 6 and 6P.
Anyhow, glad you like your phone. You should if you're using it each day. Everyone has their own needs. I'm happy for you as much as you won't believe it lol. Remember, there is no wrong choice.
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I have a right to my opinion that it's overrated. I've said this from the minute I became obsessed with Android phones years ago... People grossly overrate stock Android, hence Nexus phones as well.
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Your arguments don't make much sense since Nexus phones were introduced as what Google meant android to be and as a development platform for app developers and for those who contribute to the AOSP project.
Nexus phones were advertised as the best stock android experience and that is true, this is as google meant android to be. Obviously a lot of folks want the Samsung/LG/HTC etc experience. It is ludicrous to say that is overrated, no brand of phone does stock android better. Anyone buying a Nexus device should know what it is they are buying.
Nexus as a mainstream device only came about because a following developed for the stock experience. Camera would not have been high on the list, promoting Android, and helping some manufactures gain brand recognition and growth was. It wasn't until Nexus 5 Google saw Nexus as a brand to go head to head with Apple. Nexus 6 first attempt, and Google managing to provide this level of camera experience and overall feel at $450 one year later is amazing.
Despite the amazing hardware and refinements, I still see Nexus phones as the best way to introduce someone to android on a budget. It comes with great hardware, 810/806, good battery life, fingerprint, monthly security updates, an open platform to use device as you wish (rooting, development), and a great simple point and shoot camera for all lighting conditions. I do not see how that is overrated.
If one wanted the absolute best camera, materials, quality controlled and tested build, and the prestige or popularism, Nexus clearly not the phone. Best to look at an iPhone frankly...
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So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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I had the LG G4 for 6 months, sold it and now am happily using a Nexus 6P. I missed my Nexus 5 and the "development" side of things, so going back to the Nexus family makes me happy.
Nexus is perfect for a specific type of user.... The smart ones! Besides the 6p has better low light camera response than g4/v10, which was best from last year.
It's a highly customizable device. Doesn't compare to Samsung or lg in this department. IPhone isn't even on the same planet, its the opposite of customizing.
Also the 6p's 810 v2 has received over 120,000 antutu benchmarks consistently without getting hot or rapid battery loss.
Lastly it will be current for at least 3 to 4 years (maybe more) with a custom ROM.
markwebb said:
Actually the camera on this phone is very good and not just average.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Google-Nexus-6P-review-Serious-contender-for-mobile-photography
Very satisfied with this phone. Android pay works with root, speedy and very good battery life for me. I can use different carriers. No bend for me as that is usually from non average handling and I always use a case.
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Haha sorry I was wrong when I said average camera. Better then average but maybe not up to s6 standard?
Everyone has different uses for their phone. Some likes phones with better camera who doesnt watch videos or play games... Some enjoy playing games and dont really use the camera. Some like to listen audio or surf the web.. Some who are rich and just needs a phone.
There is no 1 phone that is the best for everything. If it existed, it woudnt be cheap.. Just look at the 2 biggest players, Apple and Samsung.. their phones still has flaws and cost much more then Nexus devices, even though the nexus devices over the past years are getting up there... This device is just as good as any Samsung or iPhone (of the same year) IMHO...
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I recently went out of my way to purchase a 5x (MDA89E) by driving 40 odd miles to a carphonewarehouse store that I knew had it in stock (after having called them). Yes I'm crazy, but I just LOVED the nexus 5, even though I had my main gripes and complaints and issues with different production models etc, I did eventually manage to obtain a model that was perfect.
But anyhow, I have been thoroughly excited since the news of the 5x. But once having used the device for the most part of 2.5 days, I'm hugely disappointed.
The same magic android experience I felt immediately with the nexus 5 just is not there with the nexus 5x. It feels incredibly cheap and plastic, and the finish is not as precise or robust feeling as the Nexus 5. The black model doesn't have the same matt back as the nexus 5.
I am very pleased with the screen and the finger print sensor is rapid and the camera is better than the nexus 5, but apart from that, everything else is sub bar.
This is the first ever google android device that I have EVER owned whereby I have experienced a laggy experience and lag in general.
I never experienced any lag on the nexus 4, nexus 5 or the nexus 6. But the 5x, I am experiencing strange frequent lag, even whilst just generally surfing the net using chrome.
The webpages stutter, the scrolling from top to bottom on a webpage frequently lags and I am completely unsatisfied with the experience as a whole. Switching between certain apps like the camera app and the snapspeed app, I experience a strange delay for a few seconds.
I have compared this to the same apps on my nexus 5 and my nexus 6 and unfortunately I am yet to experience any lag at all. Not a single experience.
My second major complaint with the handset is the Audio.
Google and LG should be embarrassed with the Audio they have incorporated into the nexus 5x, and to be quite frank, it is unacceptable. The Audio is incredibly tinny and low powered, even worse than the nexus 5.
Plugging in headphones makes it even worse. My nexus 5 is louder with headphones plugged in.
Again, let me reiterate that this is completely unacceptable, considering handsets like the Motorola moto g (2015) and the moto x play have superb audio and are also priced cheaper. (I know the screens arent as good as the 5x and they don't have a finger print sensor, but my family members have both, and the android experience on these handsets have been sublime). Though incredibly underpowered compared to the 5x, they run smoother after a comparison last night!?!??!!!
I know this 5x is classified as a cheaper alternative to cater to the budget market, but £340 is not cheap, when the moto g is priced at £149.99 and the moto x play priced at £279.99 (argos).
I really feel google is not catering to the main element of owning a smartphone, and that is the media experience.
And I will also add that they aren't even catering to the main functionality of a phone itself, which is the actual call quality, which again, is abysmal and unacceptable for a device that is priced at £340.00. I can barely increase the volume enough to hear the other person in a call, and everybody I have spoken to during a call has asked me why i sound muffled??
I'm sorry to be sounding negative, but I was expecting a step up from the nexus 5, Not a step down with a better screen and an added fingerprint sensor.
This is unacceptable and I am contemplating returning the device. Hugely disappointing and totally unexpected from google.
When the nexus 5 was released, it had, at the time, the best specs at an extremely competitive price.
The 5x is mid range specs, a good screen and a finger print sensor/camera, but a regression in usability and functionality. I cannot use this phone for media. To watch or listen to music and videos etc during my daily commute or to have important telephone conversations in a public environment. If Im in a closed room with no other noise around, then yes, it is just about acceptable, but even low for smartphone standards.
I guess I wouldn't complain as much if everything was flowing utterly smooth like I expect from a google stock android device, but it isn’t. It doesn't. I have no idea why.
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I recently went out of my way to purchase a 5x (MDA89E) by driving 40 odd miles to a carphonewarehouse store that I knew had it in stock (after having called them). Yes I'm crazy, but I just LOVED the nexus 5, even though I had my main gripes and complaints and issues with different production models etc, I did eventually manage to obtain a model that was perfect.
But anyhow, I have been thoroughly excited since the news of the 5x. But once having used the device for the most part of 2.5 days, I'm hugely disappointed.
The same magic android experience I felt immediately with the nexus 5 just is not there with the nexus 5x. It feels incredibly cheap and plastic, and the finish is not as precise or robust feeling as the Nexus 5. The black model doesn't have the same matt back as the nexus 5.
I am very pleased with the screen and the finger print sensor is rapid and the camera is better than the nexus 5, but apart from that, everything else is sub bar.
This is the first ever google android device that I have EVER owned whereby I have experienced a laggy experience and lag in general.
I never experienced any lag on the nexus 4, nexus 5 or the nexus 6. But the 5x, I am experiencing strange frequent lag, even whilst just generally surfing the net using chrome.
The webpages stutter, the scrolling from top to bottom on a webpage frequently lags and I am completely unsatisfied with the experience as a whole. Switching between certain apps like the camera app and the snapspeed app, I experience a strange delay for a few seconds.
I have compared this to the same apps on my nexus 5 and my nexus 6 and unfortunately I am yet to experience any lag at all. Not a single experience.
My second major complaint with the handset is the Audio.
Google and LG should be embarrassed with the Audio they have incorporated into the nexus 5x, and to be quite frank, it is unacceptable. The Audio is incredibly tinny and low powered, even worse than the nexus 5.
Plugging in headphones makes it even worse. My nexus 5 is louder with headphones plugged in.
Again, let me reiterate that this is completely unacceptable, considering handsets like the Motorola moto g (2015) and the moto x play have superb audio and are also priced cheaper. (I know the screens arent as good as the 5x and they don't have a finger print sensor, but my family members have both, and the android experience on these handsets have been sublime). Though incredibly underpowered compared to the 5x, they run smoother after a comparison last night!?!??!!!
I know this 5x is classified as a cheaper alternative to cater to the budget market, but £340 is not cheap, when the moto g is priced at £149.99 and the moto x play priced at £279.99 (argos).
I really feel google is not catering to the main element of owning a smartphone, and that is the media experience.
And I will also add that they aren't even catering to the main functionality of a phone itself, which is the actual call quality, which again, is abysmal and unacceptable for a device that is priced at £340.00. I can barely increase the volume enough to hear the other person in a call, and everybody I have spoken to during a call has asked me why i sound muffled??
I'm sorry to be sounding negative, but I was expecting a step up from the nexus 5, Not a step down with a better screen and an added fingerprint sensor.
This is unacceptable and I am contemplating returning the device. Hugely disappointing and totally unexpected from google.
When the nexus 5 was released, it had, at the time, the best specs at an extremely competitive price.
The 5x is mid range specs, a good screen and a finger print sensor/camera, but a regression in usability and functionality. I cannot use this phone for media. To watch or listen to music and videos etc during my daily commute or to have important telephone conversations in a public environment. If Im in a closed room with no other noise around, then yes, it is just about acceptable, but even low for smartphone standards.
I guess I wouldn't complain as much if everything was flowing utterly smooth like I expect from a google stock android device, but it isn’t. It doesn't. I have no idea why.
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I find it interesting that your review of this device is different from all the reviews I have heard. Maybe you could have a faulty device or preproduction OS? Just seems odd, I will keep my eyes out for more people to confirm but I have heard the opposite from so many people.
Thanks for the review
Thanks for the update.
If the call quality is really like this, then I will be also considering returning it... Most of the reviews were saying that the call quality is OK, I think I found one that were complaining about it...
I have ordered the 5X and cancelled more times than I am going to admit. Right now I am waiting. It seems like maybe this device would be good if you're coming from a Nexus 4 but if you currently own a Nexus 5 or 6 it really isn't much of an upgrade...certainly not worth $430. Hopefully Google goes with a smaller premium model next year.
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I have ordered the 5X and cancelled more times than I am going to admit. Right now I am waiting. It seems like maybe this device would be good if you're coming from a Nexus 4 but if you currently own a Nexus 5 or 6 it really isn't much of an upgrade...certainly not worth $430. Hopefully Google goes with a smaller premium model next year.
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You too? Mine is more than a dozen
But my last order locked into processing right away, and ill have it tomorrow. Going to be comparing it with my 96gb Moto X Pure.
My order is currently cancelled (for "only" the 2nd time) and I have been wary about the published reviews that are lukewarm at best. I guess what I'd really like is a 6p the size of the 5x. Have to wait and see more reviews on the forums...
joshuadjohnson22 said:
I find it interesting that your review of this device is different from all the reviews I have heard. Maybe you could have a faulty device or preproduction OS? Just seems odd, I will keep my eyes out for more people to confirm but I have heard the opposite from so many people.
Thanks for the review
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Droid Life compared the 5X to the 6P on their podcast, and said the 5X was noticeably more laggy than the 6P, and when double tapping the power button the launch the camera, it took significantly longer to do so on the 5X. They also mentioned battery life is average.
Maybe i could have a faulty unit. I remember the nexus 5 early production units had a few screen issues etc.
But i never remember ever experiencing lag on any previous nexus devices. This doesn't feel like a nexus buttery smooth device. It feels more similar to a device that is using a marshmallow stock rom.
I don't mean to be super critical, but the nexus 5 was a really amazing pure android butter smooth rapid fast lag free experience. I still love that phone, even to this day! Just because of the responsiveness and speed, it sort of cancelled out the negatives of the poor battery life etc
But my experience with the 5x isn't the same. It's not smooth and stutter free like how I've come to associate nexus devices to be.
Do you think I should request an exchange to see if it just isn't my unit or should I run a full reset and install everything again. This is the third day with the device, but frankly, I just feel a bit let down.
Maybe I should have been patient and just waited for the 6p, but the form factor of the nexus 5x is what i find hugely appealing.
I won't deny, the finger print sensor is first class. It's so rapid and class leading. The screen is vibrant and nice. Colors appear in great contrast, but not over saturated and vivid compared to the nexus 6 amo screen.
The camera is a huge step up.
But, for example, the vibration motor is really weak. They should have improved this. They should have improved the audio/media sound quality and the call audio quality. It makes sense if other cheaper alternatives can, why cant google?
Even lg's budget lg g3s and g4s have really decent audio and sound/call quality, as do the moto g, and moto play and especially the moto style.
Audio is hugely important, as is sound quality and call sound quality. This is what makes the media experience immersive when using a smartphone. I don't expect htc m8 or nexus 6 speaker quality, but then i don't expect quality so sub bar, that it's neigh on embarrasing, for a handset valued by google at £340.
I have just read a thread about using the phone with the charger plugged in causes lag.. I have been doing this but only in the morning and the evening. Not during my commute.
I really need to decide whether i should exchange or just return.
But overall, this doesn't feel like the usual nexus magic I've become so used to.
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Droid Life compared the 5X to the 6P on their podcast, and said the 5X was noticeably more laggy than the 6P, and when double tapping the power button the launch the camera, it took significantly longer to do so on the 5X. They also mentioned battery life is average.
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All reports that I've seen show that opening the camera on the 5x is laggy. Everything else seems to be smooth.
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You too? Mine is more than a dozen
But my last order locked into processing right away, and ill have it tomorrow. Going to be comparing it with my 96gb Moto X Pure.
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I can also tell, even by looking at the 6P, that all the emphasis on design, software, user experience etc has been directed towards this model as opposed to the 5x, which is a total shame. Its like those who prefer the small form factor are literally ostracized and classed as second class citizens with a marked down substandard experience.
The 6P will undoubtedly offer the truer next gen nexus android experience. I can tell, it will be totally smooth as silk and lag free
Coming from an S6 edge, I don't have any complaints about my Nexus 5X not being smooth and feeling fast.
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Coming from an S6 edge, I don't have any complaints about my Nexus 5X not being smooth and feeling fast.
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That doesn't surprise me! touch wiz is just generally awful. Any nexus device would be a huge improvement on that front!
But can you honestly say you're not taken back by the lackluster sound quality/audio and the call quality of the 5x in comparison to the s6 edge? the quality of the vibration on the vibration motor?
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withdrawn said:
Maybe i could have a faulty unit. I remember the nexus 5 early production units had a few screen issues etc.
But i never remember ever experiencing lag on any previous nexus devices. This doesn't feel like a nexus buttery smooth device. It feels more similar to a device that is using a marshmallow stock rom.
I don't mean to be super critical, but the nexus 5 was a really amazing pure android butter smooth rapid fast lag free experience. I still love that phone, even to this day! Just because of the responsiveness and speed, it sort of cancelled out the negatives of the poor battery life etc
But my experience with the 5x isn't the same. It's not smooth and stutter free like how I've come to associate nexus devices to be.
Do you think I should request an exchange to see if it just isn't my unit or should I run a full reset and install everything again. This is the third day with the device, but frankly, I just feel a bit let down.
Maybe I should have been patient and just waited for the 6p, but the form factor of the nexus 5x is what i find hugely appealing.
I won't deny, the finger print sensor is first class. It's so rapid and class leading. The screen is vibrant and nice. Colors appear in great contrast, but not over saturated and vivid compared to the nexus 6 amo screen.
The camera is a huge step up.
But, for example, the vibration motor is really weak. They should have improved this. They should have improved the audio/media sound quality and the call audio quality. It makes sense if other cheaper alternatives can, why cant google?
Even lg's budget lg g3s and g4s have really decent audio and sound/call quality, as do the moto g, and moto play and especially the moto style.
Audio is hugely important, as is sound quality and call sound quality. This is what makes the media experience immersive when using a smartphone. I don't expect htc m8 or nexus 6 speaker quality, but then i don't expect quality so sub bar, that it's neigh on embarrasing, for a handset valued by google at £340.
I have just read a thread about using the phone with the charger plugged in causes lag.. I have been doing this but only in the morning and the evening. Not during my commute.
I really need to decide whether i should exchange or just return.
But overall, this doesn't feel like the usual nexus magic I've become so used to.
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It always surprises me how people complain about the audio on smartphones. It is impossible for any smart phone to have good audio when you have a speaker the size of an M&M, it's simple physics, they are all just degrees of rubbish really. That's why they have a headphone socket and Bluetooth, so we have options to stream to a speaker that stands some chance of providing full range sound :good:
In terms of performance, worth trying a reset, but you may have a faulty phone, could you try one in a phone shop and see how they compare? I can see no difference in performance between mine and the older 5, the speed is mostly governed by the animations and both phones are slowed down enough navigating around by the "smoothness" that CPU speed differences really isn't noticeable in use. You could have a super computer running Marshmellow and it would still be the same speed due to the animations. If you really want a performance boost pop into Developer settings and turn of the animations, it's miles faster then, but then the 'butter smoothness' is gone. Funny how Google have made slowing down the UI something we perceive as better performance.
Hope you get your issues sorted out.
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Coming from an S6 edge, I don't have any complaints about my Nexus 5X not being smooth and feeling fast.
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It always surprises me how people complain about the audio on smartphones. It is impossible for any smart phone to have good audio when you have a speaker the size of an M&M, it's simple physics, they are all just degrees of rubbish really. That's why they have a headphone socket and Bluetooth, so we have options to stream to a speaker that stands some chance of providing full range sound :good:
In terms of performance, worth trying a reset, but you may have a faulty phone, could you try one in a phone shop and see how they compare? I can see no difference in performance between mine and the older 5, the speed is mostly governed by the animations and both phones are slowed down enough navigating around by the "smoothness" that CPU speed differences really isn't noticeable in use. You could have a super computer running Marshmellow and it would still be the same speed due to the animations. If you really want a performance boost pop into Developer settings and turn of the animations, it's miles faster then, but then the 'butter smoothness' is gone. Funny how Google have made slowing down the UI something we perceive as better performance.
Hope you get your issues sorted out.
Regards
Phil
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When I'm talking about the sound quality, I am literally talking about the quality of headphones plugged into the device. Its so embarrassingly low on the 5x its unbelievable that google and lg would see this as fit for purpose when it obviously is not.
I just got mine and I am superbly disappointed of it comparing to my Galaxy S6. Anyone compared the 5X to the 6P yet in terms of OS performance, speaker quality, camera, etc?
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I just got mine and I am superbly disappointed of it comparing to my Galaxy S6. Anyone compared the 5X to the 6P yet in terms of OS performance, speaker quality, camera, etc?
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What are you disappointed with? The S6 is a much higher level phone than the 5X so I would expect it to be a downgrade in almost everything but software. I don't think Google has shipped at 6P's yet to end users to compare.
It's kinda funny that people are saying it feels and looks cheap. People must forget what others said about the nexus 5 when it came out.. That it looked boring, cheap, that nothing about it stood out.. I mean after the beautiful nexus 4 people were expecting a 5 that was premium like the 4.. And look what happened... That became the most loved nexus of them all so far..
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It's kinda funny that people are saying it feels and looks cheap. People must forget what others said about the nexus 5 when it came out.. That it looked boring, cheap, that nothing about it stood out.. I mean after the beautiful nexus 4 people were expecting a 5 that was premium like the 4.. And look what happened... That became the most loved nexus of them all so far..
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Trust me when I say that the phone is hard plastic. Like literally.
The moto X play feels more premium and that's a cheaper handset.
The nexus 5 wasn't as aesthetically pleasing to the eye like the nexus 4, but holding the nexus 5, it felt nice, especially the soft touch matte back.
The 5x is just straight up hard plastic.
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4 times here too, and twice with the 6p. Still have the 6p coming through......unless I cancel again [emoji4]
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So just like most you guys, I pre-ordered the Nexus 6p and awaiting shipment. Thankfully, a lot of reviews have been pouring in over the past week that gives us a pretty good idea of what to expect. To me, the biggest thing that makes me want to re-think this phone is the sheer fact of how TALL the phone is. I know it's a phablet, and I am currently on the OPO and I have fairly large hands ( I am 6ft tall) and I feel the height of the OPO is probably the max to go before it starts becoming uncomfortable. With the Nexus 6p being a good 1/4" Taller than the OPO, I don't know.. it just seems like it'll be a pain to use the phone with one hand. Plus Pure android does not have any software baked into it to make the interface easy for one handed use.
The other thing that I hear most reviewers say is that they are not happy with the brightness nits in direct sunlight (android authority said it was like 400 nits or something which is pretty low).
So what are your concerns after watching the reviews so far? Anyone getting cold feet? Anyone thinking some other phone (like the Xperia Z5) would be a better option?
I think the reviews have made me more excited to get this phone. I'm coming from a Nexus 5 2013, so it'll be a big size increase. Reviewers are talking highly of the phone with their only negatives really being biases or personal preferences. The aluminum body, how fast and smooth it runs marshmallow , stereo front facing speakers, native fingerprint sensor, ambient display, doze, and all of the features android hub processor brings, large battery, fast charging, amoled display (reviewers seem to agree that it looks great with good colors, but isn't as bright as other amoleds, which can probably be tweaked with software), project fi support, and a low price tag of $499 for a phone that's being compared with all of the best phones available right now like the iPhone 6S Plus, Note 5, OnePlus Two greatly reinforces why I'm buying this phone.
For me this is hands-down the right upgrade for me. I won't support Apple and I won't support Samsung. The closed-source nature of those companies is something I cannot support. I don't much care for their products either.. but that's another topic.
I'm just a tad bit worried about the size, but I'm sure I'll get used to it. My phones have practically doubled in size every year since I had my first cellphone. Besides that, my only other real concern is if there are any repercussions for unlocking/rooting such as apps not working or warranty being voided.
How could you change your mind after the reviews? It's not like the OnePlus Two where there were obvious glaring issues. The only thing I see are mixed reviews on the battery and that all depends on how you use the device which none of the reviews have really gone in depth about. I am waiting for the GSMArena review, they have a standardized tests for all of the important stuff.
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If anything, the reviews are just reinforcing why I pre-ordered this phone as soon as possible. I think they have been very positive overall.
BTW, have you held an IPhone 6S Plus before? It is essentially identical in size to the 6P. This is how I made up my mind on whether I could really use a phone this big or not. I'm coming from a N4 so you could imagine I was a bit worried.
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Agree. My niece has the 6s+ and it feels amazing in my hand. I can't wait!!!
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I think the reviews have made me more excited to get this phone. I'm coming from a Nexus 5 2013, so it'll be a big size increase. Reviewers are talking highly of the phone with their only negatives really being biases or personal preferences. The aluminum body, how fast and smooth it runs marshmallow , stereo front facing speakers, native fingerprint sensor, ambient display, doze, and all of the features android hub processor brings, large battery, fast charging, amoled display (reviewers seem to agree that it looks great with good colors, but isn't as bright as other amoleds, which can probably be tweaked with software), project fi support, and a low price tag of $499 for a phone that's being compared with all of the best phones available right now like the iPhone 6S Plus, Note 5, OnePlus Two greatly reinforces why I'm buying this phone.
For me this is hands-down the right upgrade for me. I won't support Apple and I won't support Samsung. The closed-source nature of those companies is something I cannot support. I don't much care for their products either.. but that's another topic.
I'm just a tad bit worried about the size, but I'm sure I'll get used to it. My phones have practically doubled in size every year since I had my first cellphone. Besides that, my only other real concern is if there are any repercussions for unlocking/rooting such as apps not working or warranty being voided.
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And if it is too big, u can sell it (probably for a premium) online and buy a nexus 5x. It's a great thing!
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They have only made me want it more. I usually have my ambient light sensor set at like 20 to 30 percent and never had an issue. So luckily for me that won't matter... Size is a concern just like the nexus 6 was, but this looks to be much easier to hold. G4 was a big change from my nexus 5, but I adapted quickly. And this should have the similar feel in size changes since the width isn't as big as the nexus 6
Nope
Definitely had me rethinking, about how I am going to purchase it
No.
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The reviews only help solidify my choice of ordering the first day they went on preorder.
Hell to the no... Not worried at all about the size, I'm using the Nexus 6 so... Lol
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The reviews thus far have just reaffirmed my decision to purchase this phone. It really does seem like the perfect Android device so far. Even though there is no such thing as a perfect phone, for me, this seems like the device I have waited so long for!
The only thing I regret is no ir blaster and no wireless charging. I like my note 4's stylus, but I can probably live without that.
My only ragrat is that frost looks better every time I see it, and graphite looks worse
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The only thing I regret is no ir blaster and no wireless charging. I like my note 4's stylus, but I can probably live without that.
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I really wish devices would move away from IR remotes instead of wishing my phone has an IR blaster.
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As my phone's got bigger with each upgrade... I can assure you height won't matter. Width is key and is 1mm wider than the lg 4 I think. But each has their own preference for
Size so it's personal. Don't judge upon receipt... Give it a few days. You'll adjust quite quickly
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My only ragrat is that frost looks better every time I see it, and graphite looks worse
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Yea a made a quick decision early on to bail on the graphite and get silver as i felt the same.
Probably still nice anyway though
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I'm thinking I will be fine with my nexus 6 now. Apart from the finger print reader and camera there isn't much the 6P can do that the 6 cant.
The battery savings come from marshmallow and I have that already on the 6 so I'm losing the urge to upgrade. If I was coming from any other phone though I would be upgrading asap!
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ylexot said:
I really wish devices would move away from IR remotes instead of wishing my phone has an IR blaster.
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My devices are smart - connected to my wifi - been using apps to control then for a long time now.
I'd say time to into into the future, but the future has been here for a while now.
Can you please suggest me, what is going on in this country?
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Can you please suggest me, what is going on in this country?
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hell yes
Hmmm....
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hell yes
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Hell yeah...I had the oneplusone before my 6P have had it now for hmm nearly a month and am super happy with my Nexus 6P.
Rooted it and have now Viper4Android on it with Beanstalk/Marshmellow Runs like a dream!!
Nah I would wait for the ZTE AXOM MAX or the HTC A9
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Hell yeah...I had the oneplusone before my 6P have had it now for hmm nearly a month and am super happy with my Nexus 6P.
Rooted it and have now Viper4Android on it with Beanstalk/Marshmellow Runs like a dream!!
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And that's why I said yes it is a good upgrade
I've had the Oneplus One, moved on to the Oneplus Two, and finally settled on the Nexus 6P. I was actually pretty happy with all three devices but there are definitely strengths and weaknesses for each one. What tilted the decision in favor of the 6P was definitely the camera. I was expecting good things from the Oneplus Two, but its implementation left me disappointed.
Oneplus One:
+ Battery Life
+ Robust community for custom roms
- Plasticky external build quality
- Weak Camera
- Lacks fingerprint sensor
Oneplus Two
+ Dual Sim, a useful feature for me since I'm often travelling
+ Excellent external build quality
+/- OxygenOS isn't as bad as what others make it out to be and works well mostly
- Poor fingerprint sensor implementation (doesn't recognize my finger half the time)
- Camera can be further improved (keeps adjusting focus during video capture)
Nexus 6P
+ Best camera of the lot, even with the lack of OIS
+ Marshmallow: Doze has been phenomenal so far
+ Fingerprint sensor is consistently fast and accurate
+ Gorgeous screen and outstanding build quality
+/- Mixed feelings about Ambient Display for now, potentially useful but Android Wear supersedes its value
- DT2W not available on stock rom
- Bluetooth audio constantly skipping if Android Wear is connected concurrently (YMMV)
- Does not work with certain earphones without workarounds, e.g. Xiaomi Pistons
I'm assuming the OP is not a rhetorical question.
I owned a OnePlus One briefly and I currently have a OnePlus Two. Neither holds a candle to the Nexus 6P. Everything about the 6P, from the build to the display to the camera to the SoC to the fingerprint sensor, is a step up from the OnePlus Two, let alone the OnePlus One, which is getting long in the tooth at this point.
The lack of out-of-the-box double-tap to wake (which, frankly, is a huge pain-point for me since I love the feature and I don't think it'd tax Android too much, frankly -- Windows 10/8.1. has it, for crying out loud -- it doesn't cause much drain on lesser hardware so I don't know why this isn't a stock feature of Android's) is one the few minuses for the Nexus 6P.
I've not had issues with other things like connectivity (6.0.1. apparently introduced some LTE issues for some users), or popping glass or bending chassis. I suspect there are things behind those stories (except the LTE issue, which is quite fixable) than the reports suggest.
Let me use an analogy to answer your question. The OnePlus One is a nice little Volkswagen Beetle (emissions issues aside). Reliable, affordable, fun to drive, nice to look at, etc. Meanwhile, the Nexus 6P is a 5 series BMW. An elegant, high performance machine that also projects a certain level of means. They're in different classes of cars so comparing them is like comparing apples and bananas. At the end of the day, while you'll always love your Beetle, if you can afford to get a 5 or 7-series BMW, you should definitely get one. The same thing can be said for the OnePlus One and the Nexus 6P.
^good analogy! Why drive a car if you can fly First Class! Nexus6 P ftw
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FWIW: My OPO died at 14 months and OPO refused to do anything about it saying that it was out of warranty so I was out of luck. You can draw your own conclusions.
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I just came from a opo, its not as big of an upgrade as you might think. The in hand feel is nice, but the opo feels sturdier, performance is nice, but not that much better than when I was running sultanxdas marshmallow release. The battery does not last as long on my 6p, but the camera and upcoming band 12 support are the reasons why I switched. That's about it. Oh the fingerprint reader is cool, but I used smartlock so I rarely needed to unlock anyways.
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So I guess, sticking to my One Plus One isn't a bad idea after all.
This poll is to determine and estimate how much the new nexus (2016) is anticipated in nexus 6 community.
Used to be YES! But not if the front speakers are gone. Sticking with n6.... Looking at ZTE axon 7 as bootloader is unlocked and twrp plus good hw and cheaper price, good speakers seems worth a better look.
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I see moving to a 5.5" screen as a downgrade.
After spending the price of two laptops on my N6 (£549) I expect it to last more than a couple of years. I like new toys, but there's a limit imposed by common sense. Newer processors may give an infinitesimal improvement in performance, which no doubt can be measured by benchmarks, but the N6 is plenty fast enough for me. The screen may not be the best around these days, but every time I watch a video I think "Wow, this is an amazing quality picture", so again, good enough for me.
No point in squandering resources, is there...?
("I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Best)
I'll stay with Nexus 6, it's the best phone I ever had, even if it's not my daily phone because it's too big, it's really wonderfull with big screen, nice resolution (ready for carboards), enought RAM, 25Go is enought for me, nice photos/videos, good stereo sound with front speakers, fast charge... :good: I still love it
The Nexus Marlin and Sailfish will indeed not be true Nexus devices. It has been announced that Google is rebranding the Nexus brand, rumored at the moment to just be called "G"; and it will not feature a stock version of android, rather there will be G-only features built into the ROM. No word of bootloader yet.
(source: http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/30/12712722/google-new-nexus-phones-brand-name-change)
If there is no Nexus device then maybe I will get the One Plus 3
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I see moving to a 5.5" screen as a downgrade.
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Me too, not going to happen as long as there are decent 6" or bigger phones available. It's a pain trying to type messages or emails on such a small screen.
I really want a 64 bit mobile to develop my rom, but the 6P might break if I think about it too hard. So I'll check the new ones, but if they are too expensive here in Europe, and the early reviews are negative, then I'll just keep my N6.
I still love my N6 but I cracked the screen a bit in the corner.
I also want to finally make the move to Project Fi so I'm hoping for a bundle deal.
If what is in the leaks is true. I rather buy note 7. Back design too ugly for me.
There are a lot of reasons why people buy a Nexus device. The 2 most common reasons I always see is either the simplicity of the device (dare I say, bare bones of what a phone should do/have) and stock skin of Android or on the other side, the complex and customisable options that is possible with the fact that Nexus devices are easy to tinker with combined with the support of the developer community who are constantly providing support for devices for years even after they reach their sell by date(shoutout to all the devs btw )
Combined with this I guess its safe to stay for the most advanced users and beginners alike it all depends on if they're specific needs are still being met for them to stay with Nexus 6 or any other device for that matter and if not then it's time to upgrade.
Personally I will probably stick with Nexus 6 for as long as it lasts me or if a phone gets released with everything the Nexus 6 is and hopefully more ( Preferably a phone such as the Xperia Z5 Ultra , if Sony ever release it )
The price is too high for me. No front facing speakers, "just" a 5.5 Inch screen etc etc. For the moment my N6 is fast and stable enough to use it for the best part of the next year as well.
Bottom line, I would rather buy a OnePlus 3, than a "New Nexus" at this point.
Did they unviel it yet? I have my credit card ready. But i love my n6 to much lol
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I've grown to the size of my phone and cant seem myself owning anything smaller.
Since first buying the Nexus 6 a couple years ago or so I've had a Moto X Pure, Huawei Mate 7, OnePlus 3, and now I'm back to the Nexus 6. This phone just has everything I want in a phone. 6 inch screen (which for me is the perfect size), simple, clean design, great development, stereo speakers, and good battery life. No point in updating to a newer phone for minimal gains in speed at the cost of at least a couple of the N6's great features.
More than likely I'm going to upgrade. My N6 will be paid off in October.
I'm ready for a smaller form factor, unless they completely **** it up and the design is completely underwhelming, I will be getting one, I'm not gonna get it on launch day like the Shamu though , gonna take my sweet time waiting for reviews to make a final decision, there is a chance I will be sticking with this device for another cycle, we'll see
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Me too, I wish they would make another Nexus with a screen this size! They did it once and never again! I LOVE my N6!
I'll be keeping my N6 or getting the One Plus 3 if what I have heard and read about the new devices is true. I just love my N6, has everything I've ever wanted (minus a removable SD and/or battery which I really don't miss). Got my son a OP3 and it is really nice, I really liked my OP1. OnePlus is as close to a Nexus as you can get and unlike recent Nexus they are still inexpensive.
Nexus 6
What's your opinion of this phone now that it's been out for more than six months?
Build quality, development, etc.
Compared to previous phones or compared to whatever your expectations might have been.
Me?
I'm sorry to say that I wish I never left my Moto X Pure with BrokenOS' MarshMallow ROM.
Pixel is great though, in many ways.
It was a much needed update from my aging Nexus 6.
Was briefly contemplating iPhone, but stuck with the Pixel.
Overall, I love the camera, the battery is a champ, and so far I feel no need or want to modify the device.
I think google did well with this one.
Let's hope LG doesn't botch the next one.
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What's your opinion of this phone now that it's been out for more than six months?
Build quality, development, etc.
Compared to previous phones or compared to whatever your expectations might have been.
Me?
I'm sorry to say that I wish I never left my Moto X Pure with BrokenOS' MarshMallow ROM.
Pixel is great though, in many ways.
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It's the cherry ? bomb. Like all my Google phones.
Unprecedented battery life.
Fast as Lightning (Especially w/sdcardfs)
No cracks or damage.
Best reception I have ever had.
Extremely challenging to hack. Very easy once you have the slots and Google stops playing games. Lol
Speaker sucks. But I can live with it.
Never have and never will buy anything but a Google phone.
I can go on and on.....
BTW Moto Rocks!
I came from an S5 so anything would have been an upgrade for me. So this thing is screaming fast to me
I bought the phone after I had to send my Note 7 back. I liked it, but didn't keep it long. I've been through a few different phones in the meantime, but finally came back. It's faster than any phone I've used, and still feels really solid, and good in the hand
I came from a N6 as well. I miss the stereo speakers and the bigger screen size of the N6.
The positives of Pixel are the speed, battery life and the general smoothness of the phone.
The cons are pathetic speakers (What was google thinking?), huge bezels (which I find hard to digest coming from a lesser bezel N6) and the lack of development. On my N6 I had flashed almost 10 custom ROMs at different times.
There is hardly much choice for Pixel XL other than a handful ROMs. Perhaps the high price of the phone and the slot rigmarole turns off developers here.
I'm happy with the Pixel , but it was close to $900 and I just feel that I did not get my money's worth. That said, I can't deal with non-Google phones. Was thinking about a One Plus 5, but that's about it. Hopefully Google does something nicer with Pixel XL2.
I love stock Android and EAS is the best thing to happen to Android but..
Just can't justify the price for what you get. I'm a big Audio guy and the speaker is worst I've heard along with 3.5mm jack just sounds awful..
have to run an External DAC to make up for the poor quality
Video recording seems a bit meh blury/grainy no matter what I can't take a clear video unless it's in direct sunlight and then have to deal with the *Lense Flare* another pain in the ass
Rest of the phone is good
Development it's pretty much none existent seems like if you want roms/kernel's either stick with a 6P or OnePlus/Other China device
But I feel like it should of been priced at same as the 6P $440 we only got minor improvements nothing "WOW" to make up for the $300 extra..
I guess we paid for that "Made By Google" bs marketing. Also was never in stock anywhere + the hardware issues drove people away lets hope HTC isn't making again so we can have a great launch and hopefully bring people back :good:
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I love stock Android and EAS is the best thing to happen to Android but..
Just can't justify the price for what you get. I'm a big Audio guy and the speaker is worst I've heard along with 3.5mm jack just sounds awful..
have to run an External DAC to make up for the poor quality
Video recording seems a bit meh blury/grainy no matter what I can't take a clear video unless it's in direct sunlight and then have to deal with the *Lense Flare* another pain in the ass
Rest of the phone is good
Development it's pretty much none existent seems like if you want roms/kernel's either stick with a 6P or OnePlus/Other China device
But I feel like it should of been priced at same as the 6P $440 we only got minor improvements nothing "WOW" to make up for the $300 extra..
I guess we paid for that "Made By Google" bs marketing. Also was never in stock anywhere + the hardware issues drove people away lets hope HTC isn't making again so we can have a great launch and hopefully bring people back :good:
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I do miss the value days of the Nexus program. Minus Shamu of course. That was expensive. When I bought those Nexus, I felt like I was getting an incredible value for a smartphone.
Here is something I truly value and want everyone to think about.
How much is it worth to us for,
Monthly security updates
Major OS upgrades for two years
Bugfixes along the way
I'll tell you by saying what I've chosen as my daily driver and where my SIM card is and what's in my pocket right now. I've had marlin since Nov '16 and iPhone 7 plus since Jan '17. The marlin is in my pocket right now. The iPhone 7 plus is a great device (iMessages, waterproof) but the reason I love android is the ability to modify (stock or ROM-root-kernel) and access to that SD Card. Otherwise the 2 are pretty much equal as to camera, battery, speed, smoothness, response to touches, etc. at least in my perception. So, obviously I'm very pleased with marlin since I prefer it to a very popular alternative. Had a Samsung Galaxy S7 in early 2016 but sold it after 2 months, Pixel much better device to me.
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I came from a N6 as well. I miss the stereo speakers and the bigger screen size of the N6.
The positives of Pixel are the speed, battery life and the general smoothness of the phone.
The cons are pathetic speakers (What was google thinking?), huge bezels (which I find hard to digest coming from a lesser bezel N6) and the lack of development. On my N6 I had flashed almost 10 custom ROMs at different times.
There is hardly much choice for Pixel XL other than a handful ROMs. Perhaps the high price of the phone and the slot rigmarole turns off developers here.
I'm happy with the Pixel , but it was close to $900 and I just feel that I did not get my money's worth. That said, I can't deal with non-Google phones. Was thinking about a One Plus 5, but that's about it. Hopefully Google does something nicer with Pixel XL2.
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Agreed 100%. Thats why i skipped this one looking forward to the next one. For the price it must have stereo speaker, better audio, water resist, better design and quality. Oh and wireless charging. Then i will jump right in.
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Six month user here. And my main complaint for the Pixel remains exactly same as it was back when I bought it. The sudden freezing problem. Just out of nowhere the screen freezes for a second or two, if I am playing a game, then its done, simply over, have to restart, and I can't express how much I hate that. Of course its most noticeable/affecting while gaming, but it happens basically everywhere too, but just less frustrating in other places.
I was advised to format the phone, not root it and blah blah but exact same happened there too, without installing any apps at all! Ridiculous problem and IMHO the most annoying issue Pixels have.
Other than this, I don't know, sometimes the low light photos come with a really weird greenish cast, completely off coloured and way too much noise (yeah with HDR+ On, that's the only one I use anyway) etc.
But other than these two, I have no complaints. Tremendous call quality, more than acceptable display (though still no Apple!), excellent GPS (though Google Maps says to calibrate compass every now and then), buttery smooth interface all around most times, at max volume the loudspeaker is excellent (though at half volume it can't be heard and equally ****e!), really low SAR value etc., I am contemplating the U11 now, just for the sound and camera, but if I don't go that route I am gonna keep this phone for at least two years, and the maximum I have ever used a mobile phone was for 15 months, the Galaxy S2 back in the days, should suffice what I think about this phone.
I also have the OnePlus 3 in office, and I know some people compare it and I can say its basically Guava vs Apples comparison.
PS: Sorry didn't comment about development, but I honestly don't care much about it at all. I bought the Pixel so that I won't be needing the optimise it, let Google optimise it for me, and they did a fairly decent job, but after using Franco kernel I can say Google could have done a much better job. So that's all I need, a custom kernel.
coming from Samsung and LG devices, this phone has been a breath of fresh air even with this new partition scheme. Phone does well, battery life holds up for two days. I just have an issue with bluetooth not consistently sending music info to my radio. Some days it works, other days it's like what music info...
It's great and definitely a worthy upgrade from my Nexus 6. The only thing I miss is the front facing speakers but I didn't use them much anyways, well that and I guess it's way more slippery than my Nexus 6 because I don't use cases at all.
Couldn't be happier. Presently have a 7 Plus and the XL that I swap my sim between. IPhone is great in many ways but I just keep coming back to the Pixel XL....something about the experience I get using it that I really enjoy.
As for the other characteristics of the device others have already commented. I purchased mine at launch and received it later October.
I currently have the Nexus 6P. Damn that is a nice phone! I'm seriously doubting anything will "crush" this phones performance. But I decided I wanted to move up to the Pixel XL. I'm a decent Android gamer, so the updated GPU was nice. Plus, the camera is supposedly just that much better. Among other things, like 4GB RAM instead of the 6P's 3GB.
I don't receive the Pixel XL until Monday, so I'm wearing a path through my foyer, pacing back and forth, waiting for it to arrive.
I've spent at LEAST 30 hours this week doing research on the Pixel, its partition layout, how to get root to work, TWRP limitations, etc. This is certainly more complicated than the 6P.
Part of the reason I decided to plop down for the Pixel, was because I didn't see a lot of development going for it, as there is for the 6P. And since people seem to like my ROMs, I figured I'd toss something out there that I made, and see what kind of life it can breathe into the Pixel.
I think I'll like it. Tried it out in-hand at BestBuy yesterday. Solid device, great screen, color accuracy is actually better than the 6P, and for the first time, I kind of like the phone WITHOUT a case! Never though I'd say that.
I've used iPhones since the 3GS up until the 6S Plus (all jailbroken). I decided to try out the Nexus 6P (first ever Android phone) and fell in love with it! Custom ROMs, kernels, tweaks, Xposed, etc. were all new to me and I loved every bit of it!
However, for some reason, I decided to sell it and pick up an iPhone 7 Plus when it released. As iOS matured, security got tighter, and jailbreaking became more difficult. I got tired of waiting for a jailbreak to release and realized how locked down the OS is (when not jailbroken) compared to Android.
I sold my 7 Plus and bought this Pixel XL. I wasn't a huge fan at first, just because of the confusion with the slots and the lack of development compared to the 6P.
Now that there is more development and that I understand the slots better, I'm really enjoying this phone!
Overall, if I had the choice, I would still probably pick the 6P over this; that thing was just a beauty in basically every aspect, and it was the phone that first introduced me into the Android world.
Not a huge fan of the single downfiring speaker or the bottom chin, but otherwise it's a great phone, especially the camera!
I'm going to see what the OnePlus 5 has to offer, and may switch to that - but I'll definitely keep this XL around until the 2nd gen Pixels release. I'll be purchasing the second gen Pixels only if Google allows them to be development friendly like how the Nexus line was. If not, I may make a permanent switch over to the OnePlus line.
CZ Eddie said:
What's your opinion of this phone now that it's been out for more than six months?
Build quality, development, etc.
Compared to previous phones or compared to whatever your expectations might have been.
Me?
I'm sorry to say that I wish I never left my Moto X Pure with BrokenOS' MarshMallow ROM.
Pixel is great though, in many ways.
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Well I had the LG G6, S8+, and I sent the G6 back and sold the S8+. The pixel was snappier than both, better camera than both which is a great feature having and outstanding camera, and more reliable than both. I like stock Android, clean, fast, stable. I like being able to unlock and do what I want with my phone when I want and still have the same snappiness, camera quality, and reliability on custom ROMs. Most times you sacrifice things to go custom. Not with Google devices, Nexus, Pixel, etc. I still have it since released and can't see getting rid of it any time soon. Ya, maybe people thinking of OnePlus 5, but I also had the 3 and 3T and one thing I hated about that is when using anything custom, the camera was horrible, BT for me had issues, and other little nags. All in all, this is definitely my go to device and I've had many.
I give it a C+
After having the Pixel XL since I returned the Note 7 (Best phone I've ever owned IMO), There are issues with it that really bug me.
- For one, Youtube stutters and desyncs the audio from the video almost every video I watch, and I watch a lot of YT.
- Second, the bluetooth does not sync right in my Audi, and every 15 minutes it sounds like a modem for like 20 seconds and reconnects. It also doesn't know what to do on voice calls and frequently bounce back and forth between car speakers, and phone speaker mode, so I just turn it off for voice or Hangouts/Meet calls in the car.
- Third, the battery life has been dwindling over time, so I charge twice a day now. Yes, I'm a power user and need at least 6-8 hours of screen on time per day. That being said the phone charging speed is ridiculously fast. I can charge at least 50% in 30 minutes.
- The speakers are crap, and the audio jack doesn't give me enough volume. The setting between say 60-65% volume is way too loud, so the volume curve is not good.
-As a pro, the Camera is excellent, even in low light if you know what you're doing. The video, if you use the auto stability is crap so just don't use it.
The phone does stutter, and take a while sometimes. I am using the stock ROM, and have made no modifications to the file system or home screen at all. As is, this phone is average, so for the price, not worth it. I do have the Verizon version, and not sure if that makes a difference. Can't wait for the Note 8 to come out.
I've had mine since November and still love it. I came from the G7 edge which I was quite fond of as well. The following are the good things that keep me on the Pixel.
- Camera, for stills easily the best available. Wish the EIS didn't cause the jello effect when panning while video recording, but nonetheless I've been quite pleased with the camcorder as well.
- Software, clean, simple, fluid and robust. I am on stock unrooted. I reboot my phone once a month for updates and the phone never lags, gets janky or develops issues requiring a reboot. Additionally, the speed of updates means I'm always up to date with the most secure version of Android available.
I've had my Pixel XL 128gb since launch. I came from a Note 7, so was very challenging to get used to having a very lean software base which didn't offer many features in comparison to the Samsung series. I missed many software features from the Note 7.
The thing that gets me the most, is that I was already bored of the device 6 months in. I usually hold onto a phone for 12-24 months. The Note 4 I held onto for the longest time (24months). I enjoyed it as there were both android OS updates, and touchwiz updates, so it constantly got a new lease to life looking fresh or having new features. 8 months on and the Pixel looks exactly the same, with no updates.
I also feel that the design looked dated when I bought it, but it now is really showing it's age with the HUGE bezels. I have also struggled to find any good screen protectors (I've tried them all) as they don't sit properly. The phone is huge with a smaller screen than most phones this price/size.
It's got the worst bluetooth of any phone I have every owned, partly down to Android but also to the Pixel.
Had a lot more ROM options for Samsung, being that you can go Note 4 roms, Note 5 roms, Note 7 roms, AOSP builds, CM, MIUI. I feel like the Pixel has AOSP, stock. That's it really. They are all the same with very minor changes.
Otherwise it's mostly buttery smooth - although i'm constantly keeping my eye out for a new phone, so could be the shortest period I have owned a phone for.