AnandTech Review - Moto X (2nd gen) - X 2014 General

Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review

joelteixeira said:
Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
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Thanks for posting... As we can expect from AT, it was a more technically oriented review and had some of their usual good insights at the component level. Maybe the technical slant of their reviews colored the conclusion, but I felt the review didn't speak enough to the overall strength of the user experience. Not that it was a bad review - it definitely covered the quantitative aspects of the battery, screen, camera and SOC performance - but I think what was missing was balancing that against the experience of actually using the Moto X as a phone.
My plan is to jump on one in another month or two after my current contract expires, so for me there's time to wait for more reviews from actual users to get a true picture.

dstr72 said:
Thanks for posting... As we can expect from AT, it was a more technically oriented review and had some of their usual good insights at the component level. Maybe the technical slant of their reviews colored the conclusion, but I felt the review didn't speak enough to the overall strength of the user experience. Not that it was a bad review - it definitely covered the quantitative aspects of the battery, screen, camera and SOC performance - but I think what was missing was balancing that against the experience of actually using the Moto X as a phone.
My plan is to jump on one in another month or two after my current contract expires, so for me there's time to wait for more reviews from actual users to get a true picture.
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I tend to agree with you. It is easy to criticize someone on the choices they make but you have to appreciate the effort that they have put in. They may not have made the best android phone but they have gotten a lot of things right. Moto X 2013 was my favorite phone last year since it was a good balance between all the things I wanted in a phone and after going through everything from S5 to M8, I'm hoping Moto X 2014 will be the perfect balance one more time. IMHO, of course.

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I tend to agree with you. It is easy to criticize someone on the choices they make but you have to appreciate the effort that they have put in. They may not have made the best android phone but they have gotten a lot of things right. Moto X 2013 was my favorite phone last year since it was a good balance between all the things I wanted in a phone and after going through everything from S5 to M8, I'm hoping Moto X 2014 will be the perfect balance one more time. IMHO, of course.
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I agree
These battery tests with scripts are not even real world usage, no matter what they say. Scripts running could bring in other factors, like wakelocks, blah blah blah. So it boils down to users, and their usage. I am betting it'll be fine with me
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I agree
These battery tests with scripts are not even real world usage, no matter what they say. Scripts running could bring in other factors, like wakelocks, blah blah blah. So it boils down to users, and their usage. I am betting it'll be fine with me
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+1, I would be happier with a bigger battery but I'm fine with 2.300mha. According to extensive reviews I saw already I don't believe battery would be a problem but yes I'm worried about the camera. I saw a lot of noise of sample pictures and I take a lot of photos of my children. I'm not saying the camera is bad, it is really great for the price but if I could pay a little more and get a better camera I'd do it right away.
Because of camera I'm thinking about Galaxy Note 4. Great cam and great screen but I had a Galaxy s4 before and I, like many others, dislike touchwiz and the slow updates. Right now I don't know exactly what to do, the price of moto x is extremely appealing and Android L won't take long to show up. I'm fine with battery, I'm fine with the single speaker (it's on front anyway) but the camera is holding me back. Maybe not for so long - but I want to check more sample pictures before jump on the boat.

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+1, I would be happier with a bigger battery but I'm fine with 2.300mha. According to extensive reviews I saw already I don't believe battery would be a problem but yes I'm worried about the camera. I saw a lot of noise of sample pictures and I take a lot of photos of my children. I'm not saying the camera is bad, it is really great for the price but if I could pay a little more and get a better camera I'd do it right away.
Because of camera I'm thinking about Galaxy Note 4. Great cam and great screen but I had a Galaxy s4 before and I, like many others, dislike touchwiz and the slow updates. Right now I don't know exactly what to do, the price of moto x is extremely appealing and Android L won't take long to show up. I'm fine with battery, I'm fine with the single speaker (it's on front anyway) but the camera is holding me back. Maybe not for so long - but I want to check more sample pictures before jump on the boat.
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I feel you. The camera isn't that bad, when I saw pics. It depends on the lighting. But maybe consider buying a small, cheap camera? Moto X + cheap camera = a Note 4 probably. But having two devices is a cause of concern, so I understand
My battery on my n4 is 2100mah and it can't even get half of what Moto X gets. That's pretty good to me, since n4 battery is only 200mah less
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I feel you. The camera isn't that bad, when I saw pics. It depends on the lighting. But maybe consider buying a small, cheap camera? Moto X + cheap camera = a Note 4 probably. But having two devices is a cause of concern, so I understand
My battery on my n4 is 2100mah and it can't even get half of what Moto X gets. That's pretty good to me, since n4 battery is only 200mah less
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You're absolutely right, having two devices is exactly the problem to me. And don't get me wrong, when I talk to much about the camera maybe seems like I want a fantastic and ultimate quality camera but something on par with GS4 that is two years old now or more would be perfect fine to me. I'm complaining but in the end I think I'll do get a moto x. Like we said before, it's not the best android available but when you see the big picture it's a really great and balanced set.

Wow. Thanks for the link to review which I read in its entirety. This is giving me pause and I just received email from moto that my order is in assembly stage. I may cancel the order and wait for Nexus. I also think this phone will be discounted by Xmas like last year. ;(
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markwebb said:
Wow. Thanks for the link to review which I read in its entirety. This is giving me pause and I just received email from moto that my order is in assembly stage. I may cancel the order and wait for Nexus. I also think this phone will be discounted by Xmas like last year. ;(
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What do you mean discontinued? The OG x was never discontinued was it?

matt99017d said:
What do you mean discontinued? The OG x was never discontinued was it?
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He said "discounted" lol
Idk if the new Moto X will get discounted by much, since looking at the chipset, it's really up to date. Even the s5 hardly got a discount. I don't expect it
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He said "discounted" lol
Idk if the new Moto X will get discounted by much, since looking at the chipset, it's really up to date. Even the s5 hardly got a discount. I don't expect it
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True. But if sales are slow like last year I wouldn't be surprised at a slight reduction to move them during the holidays to compete with you know who.
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The thing I found most notable about this review was the complete dismissal of Moto Voice. For me, this was one of the best attributes of the original Moto X, and it worked well enough to impress iPhone users with its text-message-by-voice feature that mostly "Just Worked." Mileage may vary, obviously, for anyone who spends any time in a car this is a potentially very useful feature.
It'd be nice if the battery life reports had come back better, but they seem more or less as performant as the original model which for me was adequate if not ideal. Throw in the turbo charger, which will theoretically provide a useful enough charge of a 15 minute power up and I'm sold.

Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one

noobsquared said:
Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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If pocketnow tested the battery by actually using the phone and not by scripts (which I presume he did), then that just shows that running custom made scripts brings in some other factors that will kill battery. I can't trust reviews solely basing battery on scripts. I've read many reports saying that the phone was used and lasted for over 10 hours or whatever
Thank you for bringing more good news on this phone and its battery lol
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Using scripts to test battery life is fine, but were they really expecting? If you keep two phones on with roughly the same SoC and roughly the same screensize, but one has a larger battery, of course the one with the larger battery is going to win.
I'm more interested in knowing how the Moto X is optimized. When the screen is off, how frequent are the wakelocks? How is the ROM tailored to optimize the phone's battery life when it's not in use?
Does anyone know a site that runs those kinds of tests?

noobsquared said:
Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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I just read the review and it wasn't a ringing endorsement as they had some concerns expressed towards the end of the article:
http://pocketnow.com/2014/09/18/moto-x-2014-review
Is there another I am missing?
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joelteixeira said:
Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review
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I used to like anandtech because they could give real world meaning to synthetic benchmarks. I miss the user experience. Even the verge, which always seems very apple biased rated the moto x 8.8 (vs iphone6 9.0), when they verge likes an android phone that much you know it must be good (even if it doesn't have *the best* camera)

Pocketnow basically concluded. It's no better than the predecessor and I agree. Barely an improvement if any.. I had a bad feeling. Maybe Lenovo screwed this up, who knows.

cipsaz said:
Pocketnow basically concluded. It's no better than the predecessor and I agree. Barely an improvement if any.. I had a bad feeling. Maybe Lenovo screwed this up, who knows.
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but... they gave it an 8.9 lol
edit: from listening to the review, they're only disappointed with the camera. and, like he says in the vid, their readers actually liked last years cam. i won't say i like the cam on my current one, but it's not total crap either. it's usable.
edit: and the battery. but he ends it with saying he's purchased it haha.
i personally think battery and camera can be slightly underwhelming considering the package as a whole. my only complaint deals more with the screen but we'll see how that turns out.

sogrady said:
The thing I found most notable about this review was the complete dismissal of Moto Voice. For me, this was one of the best attributes of the original Moto X, and it worked well enough to impress iPhone users with its text-message-by-voice feature that mostly "Just Worked." Mileage may vary, obviously, for anyone who spends any time in a car this is a potentially very useful feature.
It'd be nice if the battery life reports had come back better, but they seem more or less as performant as the original model which for me was adequate if not ideal. Throw in the turbo charger, which will theoretically provide a useful enough charge of a 15 minute power up and I'm sold.
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Ever since I ported my Google voice number over to a real number. I use moto voice non stop while driving. You can kind of make it work on other phones if you do the okay Google on any screen but you have to have it plugged in and have it set to never turn the screen off while charging. There are apps that will read out your texts but none seem as refined as moto assists features. If the next nexus somehow gets moto voice I'll probably end up with that but I'll probably sacrifice battery to get the next moto x. From reading. It seems it's on par with the 2013 moto x at least.
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Related

To get the Razr MAXX HD or something else?

My digitizer just died on my HTC One X and bought it out right and looking to get a new phone. I found out I was approved for a concession line at work so I am looking for a new phone on Verizon. The Motorola Maxx HD just came out, the S3 has been out for a while, and the Note 2 just came out. I am trying to decide between each, and are wondering yall’s recommendation. I like the S3 and its size, and how there is a lot of development of it. The Maxx HD has epic batter life and I like the design and materials used and the note 2 I love the screen size. I am trying to decide between which. Give me your comments!
I sold my S3 and kept the Razr HD for the feel and build. Plus I love the Moto UI, or lack there of. The s3 does have more development and a better camera, but the battery trade off is worth it to me for the Razr. Both work with a 64gb micro sd. The Note 2 I can't comment much on, I've had no interest in a screen that big
I agree with derty - what Moto has done with Blur is awesome! Not too intrusive yet it has some very useful features. I played with both the S3 and Note 2 in the stores and, for me, TouchWiz is just WAY too much! Cumbersome and extremely intrusive ... it almost appears to completely overwrite the base Android OS.
The battery is unmatched IMO - it is mind boggling what this thing can do!
Connectivity is awesome - strong 4G, fast WiFi to 4G handoffs and great call quality.
The build quality is second to none! Feels sturdy and stout but still feels good in-hand.
I am very happy with my choice ...
~~ Tapped from the 7th dimension~~
Just to add, yes the SG3 has.more development but its been out much longer. Between the build quality, the battery life and the future the HD is the way to go IMO.
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I use Motorola products, last four phones were Motorola Androids but I do look around, even checked the iphone a few times. I didn't like the last two Samsung phones I tried, one I used for 10 days, the other I didn't take home, just used in the store (felt cheap, low volume). We're so close to seeing what Google is launching, I'd wait. The problem (at least I think its a problem) is with Verizon, the time it takes to get updates is very long, even bug fixes. Nexus device updates are delayed on Verizon but at least you'll see these while Motorola you'll see maybe 2-3 for the life of the phone this includes bug fixes, not only OS upgrades.
I have the RAZR M and it is a really nice phone but unlike you I'd rather have the smaller form. I had always used two batteries so if you get the Note, just plan on keeping a second battery with you. For me if was as natural as taking my wallet and it fit nicely in my watch pocket in my jeans, no big deal. With the RAZR M I don't get all day battery life, I get about 8 hours off the charger. When the Maxx was updated to ICS battery like took a hit, maybe 8-10 hours at most. I use about 90-120 minutes of phone time a day and what I would call moderate use during the day; no streaming, listening to stored media or games.
I haven't been disappointed in the build quality of Motorola phones, they sound good, no real signal problems and are loud enough on the streets of NYC to hear a conversation over the drone of construction, traffic and crowds. But what would you expect to hear in a Motorola forum
I'm pretty much set on either Nexus models or "Developer Editions" right now. I pay full price anyway to keep unlimited data.
LG NEXUS!
LG has screwed me.in the past with crap products... even a Nexus can't sway me in that direction.. there are rumors of a Moto Nexus next year!
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GoClifGo05 said:
LG has screwed me.in the past with crap products... even a Nexus can't sway me in that direction.. there are rumors of a Moto Nexus next year!
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A moto nexus would b great
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LG NEXUS!
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LG Nexus doesn't even have LTE. I wouldn't go that route.
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leyvatron said:
LG Nexus doesn't even have LTE. I wouldn't go that route.
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really depending on where you live (and the strength of 3g coverage), i dont know where i couldnt deal without LTE ...
seandidk said:
My digitizer just died on my HTC One X and bought it out right and looking to get a new phone. I found out I was approved for a concession line at work so I am looking for a new phone on Verizon. The Motorola Maxx HD just came out, the S3 has been out for a while, and the Note 2 just came out. I am trying to decide between each, and are wondering yall’s recommendation. I like the S3 and its size, and how there is a lot of development of it. The Maxx HD has epic batter life and I like the design and materials used and the note 2 I love the screen size. I am trying to decide between which. Give me your comments!
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I'd suggest you the note 2 if you can stand big display , it has great removable battery, good non-pentile screen , best audio quality on a smartphone, great specs (quad and 2gb of ram) and the spen.... I'm not a Samsung fan but the note 2 is really great, but if you prefer smaller screen is suggest you the Maxx as it has great built quality, best battery life.
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I'd suggest you the note 2 if you can stand big display , it has great removable battery, good non-pentile screen , best audio quality on a smartphone, great specs (quad and 2gb of ram) and the spen.... I'm not a Samsung fan but the note 2 is really great, but if you prefer smaller screen is suggest you the Maxx as it has great built quality, best battery life.
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Hard to suggest against this beast of a phone. That Note 2 does look very nice though...
I was planning on the LG Nexus, but no LTE is a hands down deal killer.
I was thinking of the Note 2, but that stupid menu button and Touchwiz really bothers me.
It's a shame this phone does not have an unlocked bootloader, but that's Verizons doing.
Hmmm.. Decisions decisions...
Jeff_in_LA said:
I was planning on the LG Nexus, but no LTE is a hands down deal killer.
I was thinking of the Note 2, but that stupid menu button and Touchwiz really bothers me.
It's a shame this phone does not have an unlocked bootloader, but that's Verizons doing.
Hmmm.. Decisions decisions...
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Again, you can always go with the Dev edition on VZW.
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Again, you can always go with the Dev edition on VZW.
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True, but I would really like the Maxx unlocked. I'm a die hard android fan.. my only gripe is battery life. That bigger battery would be awesome.
I'm so sick of plugging my phone in to sip power everywhere. That big battery should help.
Also, the development community will be fairly small with this device.
It still kills me the Nexus 4 does not have LTE.. Very Apple like for Google.
Jeff_in_LA said:
Also, the development community will be fairly small with this device.
It still kills me the Nexus 4 does not have LTE.. Very Apple like for Google.
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I hope that's not true. With it being the first unlocked moto device I'm hoping the dev will be amazing (even if it's only a few people working on it.) You may be right though.
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True, but I would really like the Maxx unlocked. I'm a die hard android fan.. my only gripe is battery life. That bigger battery would be awesome.
I'm so sick of plugging my phone in to sip power everywhere. That big battery should help.
Also, the development community will be fairly small with this device.
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I'm looking at the HD Maxx as well. My only remaining complaint with my GNex is the battery life. Kinda stinks when your out at faires or conventions and you want to take pictures with your phone, but the event lasts all day and you need Navigation to get home after. I'm sick of carrying around two batteries.
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I'm looking at the HD Maxx as well. My only remaining complaint with my GNex is the battery life. Kinda stinks when your out at faires or conventions and you want to take pictures with your phone, but the event lasts all day and you need Navigation to get home after. I'm sick of carrying around two batteries.
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I feel ya on that...in fact that was the MAIN reason I grabbed the Maxx. I took my daughters to the Justin Bieber concert two weeks ago...and they were happy, smiling...it was nice. Snapped a few pics with my One X. Pics came out beautifully. Then not even half way through the show, I go to take another pic and I noticed I had little to no battery left. I had to turn the phone off. So because of the battery being almost completely dead, I couldn't snap no where near as many pics as I had wanted. So to have this phone with this big battery is nice imo :laugh:
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I feel ya on that...in fact that was the MAIN reason I grabbed the Maxx. I took my daughters to the Justin Bieber concert two weeks ago...and they were happy, smiling...it was nice. Snapped a few pics with my One X. Pics came out beautifully. Then not even half way through the show, I go to take another pic and I noticed I had little to no battery left. I had to turn the phone off. So because of the battery being almost completely dead, I couldn't snap no where near as many pics as I had wanted. So to have this phone with this big battery is nice imo :laugh:
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I just want batteries to keep getting bigger and bigger. Screens can do whatever they want. If I can have 6 day battery life with a 3 inch screen, so be it. Haha.
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I feel ya on that...in fact that was the MAIN reason I grabbed the Maxx. I took my daughters to the Justin Bieber concert two weeks ago...and they were happy, smiling...it was nice. Snapped a few pics with my One X. Pics came out beautifully. Then not even half way through the show, I go to take another pic and I noticed I had little to no battery left. I had to turn the phone off. So because of the battery being almost completely dead, I couldn't snap no where near as many pics as I had wanted. So to have this phone with this big battery is nice imo :laugh:
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Your phone just had Beiber fever, that's all lol
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Compared to the Galaxy Nexus...

I know this might sound like a stupid question, but hear me out.
I currently own a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. As of last week, I am due for an upgrade. I am interested in the Moto X mainly because of the size and battery life so I've been browsing the forums trying to find out which device I should upgrade to. Here are some questions I have:
Compared to the Galaxy Nexus, how is the camera quality? I've heard mixed things in this department, but if the sensor in the Moto X is better than what I have now, I'll take it.
How is the battery life on the Verizon model? I know people have been reporting good battery life on the AT&T models but I know LTE modems can suck the life out of Verizon phones (like the GNexus).
I don't really do much but take pictures and browse the web. I need good battery life as I commute to school during the week. Is this phone good enough for my needs? I was also looking into the HTC One but I just hate not using a relatively stock Android phone. I know this is the absolute wrong place for this, but for someone in my situation, would it make sense to look into the iPhone 5S? Great camera and battery life is important but I don't know about dealing with iOS 7.
This topic is mainly for users who are in my situation (coming off a two-year contract) and looking to upgrade. If you own a Galaxy Nexus on any carrier, please feel free to chime in!
I get my Verizon x today...will try to report back. I am also coming from a Galaxy Nexus (that stopped working)
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I have have both the new Maxx and the X was delivered this morning. Maxx is a great phone with a suburb battery. With that being said I absolutely love the form factor of the X. My worry is going to be battery also. I gave the X a quick charge just to have something and off I went. Long story short, the battery goes fast. Having the note 2 in the past and now the Maxx, I have been spoiled. The only thing that would make me return the X will be the battery. I will give you a better idea by tonight.
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I have have both the new Maxx and the X was delivered this morning. Maxx is a great phone with a suburb battery. With that being said I absolutely love the form factor of the X. My worry is going to be battery also. I gave the X a quick charge just to have something and off I went. Long story short, the battery goes fast. Having the note 2 in the past and now the Maxx, I have been spoiled. The only thing that would make me return the X will be the battery. I will give you a better idea by tonight.
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remember, you have to use the phone for a few days before you judge the battery. please don't say "it's going fast" when you are spending all your time installing and loading and playing with it. it needs to learn you. come back after 48 hours and report what you think.
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remember, you have to use the phone for a few days before you judge the battery. please don't say "it's going fast" when you are spending all your time installing and loading and playing with it. it needs to learn you. come back after 48 hours and report what you think.
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Compared to the GNex the battery of the X for me is night and day. The X seems to have good battery life for me.
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remember, you have to use the phone for a few days before you judge the battery. please don't say "it's going fast" when you are spending all your time installing and loading and playing with it. it needs to learn you. come back after 48 hours and report what you think.
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Worked for Verizon store manager, regional manager and tech support. for 10 years. Owned Droid, RAZR, RAZR Maxx, Thunderbolt, Incredible 1 and 2, S3,S4, Note 2, Bionic etc etc...
Thanks for telling me what I can and cannot say. I think I can do this on my own. Thanks dad.
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I would also love to know how it compares signal/antenna wise. My GNex is killing me at my new work location. It always sucked at home, but I'm really curious how much of that was the crappy antennas/radio on the GNex. My wife's little LG lucid rocks 4G in places my Nexus gets nothing at all!
Where I used to work must have been underneath a tower
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I would also love to know how it compares signal/antenna wise. My GNex is killing me at my new work location. It always sucked at home, but I'm really curious how much of that was the crappy antennas/radio on the GNex. My wife's little LG lucid rocks 4G in places my Nexus gets nothing at all!
Where I used to work must have been underneath a tower
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Don't let the Verizon Nexus signal be any indication of how ANY other phone is. That phone was the worst I had...period. The signal and battery were atrocious. Even with the extended battery it never made it through the day. Moto makes great radios. You will not need to worry in that regard.
The x kills the gnex on every level imo, especially battery
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Awesome, thanks. One more follow-up for folks that have used the X a bit on VZW LTE ... how's the heat under load/weak cell signal? Other than the piss-poor radio/antenna, this was my biggest issue with the GNex. But that did force me to get a tablet to play games; so it wasn't ALL bad!
so how does this phone compare in size to the gnex? I know the screen size is basically the same, but from the cases I saw, it looks like the physical size is a little smaller, is that a problem for you guys?
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I have have both the new Maxx and the X was delivered this morning. Maxx is a great phone with a suburb battery. With that being said I absolutely love the form factor of the X. My worry is going to be battery also. I gave the X a quick charge just to have something and off I went. Long story short, the battery goes fast. Having the note 2 in the past and now the Maxx, I have been spoiled. The only thing that would make me return the X will be the battery. I will give you a better idea by tonight.
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I'm pretty sure motorola is lying about the actual battery size in this thing, short of gaming there is no way you will kill this thing in under 16 hours it is quite impressive.
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so how does this phone compare in size to the genex? I know the screen size is basically the same, buy from the cases I saw, it looks like the physical size is a little smaller, is that a problem for you guys?
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The size is still just fine in the hand and im all about making the device only as big as it needs to be to house of the screen. and yes it it's a little shorter and thinner but it wasn't really super noticable for me but I should say it has been awhile since I had a gnex.

Are you happy with it?

So through a whole of problems with the GS4, and a little stroke of luck, I happened upon a Moto X 2014. I must say, the phone is smooth as butter. But I still feel like something is missing. My battery isn't a great feet, my camera is poor at best. The phone however is the fastest and smoothest I've ever seen an android phone. It makes me melt. But after using the LG G2 which I had for 2 days before this....I miss it comparatively to this. Just as fast, much larger battery, beautiful screen. The Moto X doesn't even have a "power save" feature, and that would at lest be helpful. I almost want to wait for the Droid Turbo, but by then my 14 days would be up. I'm just not sure what to do. So my question to others.....Are you happy with this device? or would you switch, given the opportunity? If so, to what?
In happy, if the camera was better, I would be happier, but I'll hold out for L in hopes of improved camera performance. If not, I have another upgrade in April, maybe grab a turbo if it doesn't look as bad as it has in the leaked photos.
I'm think off going back the LG G2. The camera may be the breaking point for me.
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I don't take many pictures, but the ones I have taken have been fine. On par with a majority of the smart phones I have owned except a few that were above average. Most of them are just "meh" and any difference is still not great so I just don't let it get to me. If pictures were priority I would still be on the Lumia 930 hands down, or maybe the iPhone 6 plus, but not most of the Android handsets available that's for sure.
Overall I love the phone though. It just a great phone to use and really when it comes down to it that is what matters. There are things that could use improvement (screen brightness, camera, battery life). But none of those factors are BAD, just not exceptional. I get through a day with ease and the screen is fine except in bright sunlight. The phone makes up for it with a great feel and ease of use. Its super fast and fluid, and little things like ActiveDisplay just make it all that much better of an experience. Of all the phones I have owned in the last year (a lot) it is the first one I feel content with and not pining for a new phone (which is rare for me). I am excited for Android L .
I love my Moto X. I too came from a Galaxy S4 running CyanogenMOD and this is so smooth without having to do any tweaking whatsoever. I've had this phone for 11 days and I already try to wave my hand over other people's phones and expect it to just turn on when I pick it up. These may be new features I can't live without.
Short answer....best phone I have ever owned
I came from the HTC One, HTC One M8, and LG G3. Also had the Nexus 5 as my daily driver before leaving it for LG G3. ... This phone trumps them all (still use m8 for low light photos)
The bad......nothing really. The camera and battery are decent enough.....just nothing to brag on.
As far as performance....nothing is close. So smooth...so fast.....so fluid.
The phone screen looks amazing and the stereo headphone jack is provides the best sound I have heard outside of the HTCOne.
No phone is perfect.....but this phone came very close
I think it's too top heavy and not comfortable to hold. Maybe cuz I got leather and have a subconscious fear of scratching it or something. Ultimately, its fate w/me is doomed due to no root on verizon.
I'll give up the X if nexus comes out on verizon.
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I think it's too top heavy and not comfortable to hold. Maybe cuz I got leather and have a subconscious fear of scratching it or something. Ultimately, its fate w/me is doomed due to no root on verizon.
I'll give up the X if nexus comes out on verizon.
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This is the only downfall for me as well. I want gravitybox so bad. Just for the PIE controls so I can hide the nav bar. That extra screen real estate along with the one handed reachability would make this phone perfect for me.
I don't care about the camera quality, not a big deal for me. And the battery life is sufficient for me.
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So through a whole of problems with the GS4, and a little stroke of luck, I happened upon a Moto X 2014. I must say, the phone is smooth as butter. But I still feel like something is missing. My battery isn't a great feet, my camera is poor at best. The phone however is the fastest and smoothest I've ever seen an android phone. It makes me melt. But after using the LG G2 which I had for 2 days before this....I miss it comparatively to this. Just as fast, much larger battery, beautiful screen. The Moto X doesn't even have a "power save" feature, and that would at lest be helpful. I almost want to wait for the Droid Turbo, but by then my 14 days would be up. I'm just not sure what to do. So my question to others.....Are you happy with this device? or would you switch, given the opportunity? If so, to what?
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you'll be happy that L will bring this:
1. power saver built in
2. native code for camera stuff
3. project volt, which is supposed to help in battery
4. ...and much more
right now, there is nothing on the market that I want. so no, i would not switch. next year, maybe
after a week or so of using its okay. battery life sucks, i dont care about the camera, not sure why but many apps crash on it more than my nexus 5, and i can barely just barely see some hiccups/lag when navigating through the homescreen and some apps ill wait for android L tho
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after a week or so of using its okay. battery life sucks, i dont care about the camera, not sure why but many apps crash on it more than my nexus 5, and i can barely just barely see some hiccups/lag when navigating through the homescreen and some apps ill wait for android L tho
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Do you have ART enabled?
This phone is not top heavy, the center of its mass is right in the middle of the phone.
Just balance it on the index finger and you will see.
Best phone I used so far as well. But I never had any flagship devices before. Just a last years moto x, moto g, galaxy i9070... and an HTC one m8 as a phone for work, that's it.
But I saw many friends struggling with flagships while I was enjoying my moto x 2013.
I gave the HTC one m8 back to my boss and use the mx2013 now for my work and the mx2014 for private uses.
The mx2013 gave me an excellent experience, so I had no other choice than buying its successor.
BTW I hated the m8 even compared to the mx2013.
If Motorola doesn't **** it up, I'll buy their devices for a long time.
I could not be happier
Battery life could be bettet but ive yet to run out of it after a full day of work
How do you enable ART and what does it change? I assume this is the ART vs dalvik thing?
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How do you enable ART and what does it change? I assume this is the ART vs dalvik thing?
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It's in developer options. Don't enable it. Several users have reported an increase in force closes.
It's a bigger, faster, smoother moto x. If you liked the 2013 x but wanted something bigger, this will make you happy.
I like it, originally I let all the negative reviews get to me and even went back to my nexus 5 for a day. Then I realized how much nicer the moto x is. Its a great well rounded device. Unlocked bootloader with full warranty in tact, good camera, decent battery life, fast updates, near aosp and other great specs. Oh, and every time I'm on the phone I can smell wonderful leather lol.
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I like it, originally I let all the negative reviews get to me and even went back to my nexus 5 for a day. Then I realized how much nicer the moto x is. Its a great well rounded device. Unlocked bootloader with full warranty in tact, good camera, decent battery life, fast updates, near aosp and other great specs. Oh, and every time I'm on the phone I can smell wonderful leather lol.
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Unlocking the boot loader on the pure edition does not void the warranty? I have heard it does not but not sure.
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Unlocking the boot loader on the pure edition does not void the warranty? I have heard it does not but not sure.
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That's what I read from the Motorola feedback network administrator, he said they are "treating the pure edition like the 2013 Dev edition."
I love it, but I am interested in seeing what the Turbo and Nexus 6 bring to table, especially since it'll be on VZW. That being said, jumping to 5.2" from 4.7" was noticeable, can't really imagine carrying around 5.96"...

Considering this phone, couple of questions and feedback from owners please...

I've been away from all this phone thing for a couple of years. In fact, I was never very much into it, I just used to buy whatever flagship there was at the moment as that would usually be cheaper - a phone that would last for a long time and be able to keep getting support. Seems like things~have changed quite a lot and flagship phones are waaaay too big and cost what they cost because of a lot of stuff I don't use or need.
I currently own an LG G2, which from my searches seems to be still very up to date. Best two things about it is the size and screen/body ratio that allows for single hand use; big battery (3000mah). It's getting old though and I was thinking of replacing it but I'm lost.
This X Play got my attetion mainly because of the price, battery life and the near stock Android which should be easy and quick to keep up with Android updates. Motorola being owned by Google made me think these would get a fast and prompt support.
But after reading and watching a few reviews, I'm no loner sure I should spend my money. A few specific questions and a more general one:
- Many reviews end up saying battery life is nowhere near the values claimed with regular use, with screen on times of about 4 hours (web browsing and such). Is that the case? Lower spec Snapdragon and over 3600mah sound like it would last a lot more.
- How are updates with Motorola and what would it mean in the future, now that it's going to Lenovo? Is Pure close to owning a Nexus or no?
- Do benchmark numbers like Geekbench mean anything? My old G2 wipes the floor with this one if they mean anything, making a lot less sense getting it. It would be a huge downgrade.
And the more general and probably more useful question for me...
- Are you happy with this phone and why? If you know the G2, is it worth replacing it for this one? I mainly use these things as phones, web browser, social media and light games when I need to kill some time (no crazy high spec FPS games or watching movies or playing music). An immediate disadvantage to me is that this phone is already a bit too big for my liking. Borderline too big though, so pluses could easily outweigh this.
Just to give you guys a bit more context, the Nexus 5x would be my no brainer choice if it had at least 3000mah battery. Like the OnePlus X for size, specs and price but I think my current G2 is clearly a better phone on pretty much everything.
Sorry for the long post but you see I don't have a real clear idea of things, so I can't really make very specific questions. Any thoughts appreciated regarding these generalities! :fingers-crossed:
- Considering the primitive specs sheet and the huge battery, the battery life could have been better. But still it is better than most of the other phones available now
- It's almost a Nexus except for perhaps the dialer and a few motorola goodies thrown in. From my past experiences with Motorola phones, the first update is quick, the second comes a bit late
- I like holding the Play in my hand better than G2, it feels more sturdy.
- If not for the Motorola goodies, it's not worth the upgrade (assuming your G2 is still holding up). The battery life is only slightly better (but much much better than G3).
- If it matters to you, there is no Gyroscope in Play. The camera on X play is slightly better but again there is no OIS.
- x Play is water repellent. I am one of those people who don't use a cover and am more than happy to take my phone out when it's drizzling or snowing
Personally i am disappointed with the screen on X play. The previous versions of Moto X had an AMOLED screen and the Moto Display was great on it, and up to the mark on the LCD screen.
Hope this helps and forgive my poor English
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- Considering the primitive specs sheet and the huge battery, the battery life could have been better. But still it is better than most of the other phones available now
- It's almost a Nexus except for perhaps the dialer and a few motorola goodies thrown in. From my past experiences with Motorola phones, the first update is quick, the second comes a bit late
- I like holding the Play in my hand better than G2, it feels more sturdy.
- If not for the Motorola goodies, it's not worth the upgrade (assuming your G2 is still holding up). The battery life is only slightly better (but much much better than G3).
- If it matters to you, there is no Gyroscope in Play. The camera on X play is slightly better but again there is no OIS.
- x Play is water repellent. I am one of those people who don't use a cover and am more than happy to take my phone out when it's drizzling or snowing
Personally i am disappointed with the screen on X play. The previous versions of Moto X had an AMOLED screen and the Moto Display was great on it, and up to the mark on the LCD screen.
Hope this helps and forgive my poor English
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Thanks for that and your English looks just fine to me, don't know why you would apologize! But then again, English is not my main language either, so I wouldn't know
I've been asking around but it seems I'm keeping my money and my G2. I can't really find a phone that is a solid, all round improvement over it and that justifies spending the cash. Oh well... :highfive:
Honestly dude, this is a very good value phone. Performance with the underpowered chip is really pretty good minus the occasional hiccup (I don't game, but I like a fluid ui... which this definitely has 99% of the time. Sometimes it'll hang for a bit under load but sorts itself out pretty quickly and is a very minor nuisance). The battery is a beast too. I dunno what setup the other guy has that he's only getting average BL (xposed cuts life in half I've noticed, so I stopped using it), but mine is great. Build quality feels kinda cheap and the way it rattles when it vibrates makes me cringe, but this is not a flagship phone. I got mine for 150 CAD outright on a carrier promo, but honestly I'd still be satisfied if I paid double that
I have the phone and found it an upgrade over my iPhone 6 and my wife's S6. I hate gimmicky features, which the S6 has.
Battery life is very nice on this phone in my opinion. I average 4 hours SOT and I'm mostly on cellular data and have a BT headset on all day. Even then I'm only down to around 45% give or take.
Performance is great for me. I had a Nexus 5 for a while and that was really the only other Android phone I have had that was as fluid or more fluid than this phone. The S6 and iPhone 6 had hiccups in the ui, even more than this phone.
All that being said though, if your G2 is still working nicely, I would highly recommend just sticking with it. Maybe invest in a new battery and a case to freshen it up. The new Qualcomm chips don't really seem to be that much more powerful than 2 or so generations ago. Even ram counts and storage space haven't gone up as much as I would have expected. Kinda like we have hit a brick wall. I expect that a flagship phone shouldn't start off with 16gb anymore... Looking at you Apple.
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I have the phone and found it an upgrade over my iPhone 6 and my wife's S6. I hate gimmicky features, which the S6 has.
Battery life is very nice on this phone in my opinion. I average 4 hours SOT and I'm mostly on cellular data and have a BT headset on all day. Even then I'm only down to around 45% give or take.
Performance is great for me. I had a Nexus 5 for a while and that was really the only other Android phone I have had that was as fluid or more fluid than this phone. The S6 and iPhone 6 had hiccups in the ui, even more than this phone.
All that being said though, if your G2 is still working nicely, I would highly recommend just sticking with it. Maybe invest in a new battery and a case to freshen it up. The new Qualcomm chips don't really seem to be that much more powerful than 2 or so generations ago. Even ram counts and storage space haven't gone up as much as I would have expected. Kinda like we have hit a brick wall. I expect that a flagship phone shouldn't start off with 16gb anymore... Looking at you Apple.
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Thanks guys! I was sort of doubting my conclusion... from what I was seeing, there's no real differences in usage for the perspective of an average user. Its a good thing though, a cheap(ish) phone like this would actually give me a better experience over some (all) the current flagships.
I might be getting old, apparently I'm no longer a member of the market when a company thinks about a new phone... From what I've seen, my perfect phone would be the combination of 3 current models and that combination doesn't exist: OnePlus X for size and looks, Nexus 5x for the stock Android and this Play for battery life.
I came across some Chinese phones that claim crazy insane MAH batteries(*) but, knowing how they go about rewrapping batteries and LiPo packs with absurd numbers that are impossible, I'm not even looking into those. If they are for real I'll eventually hear something about them...
(*) Google "Ulefone Power" just for kicks...
I know exactly what you mean there. It's frustrating but that seems how the market works these days.
I'm only 26 myself and I feel like in the older part of the market these days! I had been contemplating some of those cheap Chinese imported phones myself, but found the X Play in store and that's what changed my decision. I'm overall happy with it. Mobile CPUs have seemingly advance more in the midrange/low range sector than the high end chips.
I don't see any reason to buy a flagship phone any more, or if you do, buying an older generation phone for the cost savings. Especially if you unlock the bootloader and load other firmware.
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I know exactly what you mean there. It's frustrating but that seems how the market works these days.
I'm only 26 myself and I feel like in the older part of the market these days!
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Well, I guess one gets used to certain things and stops feeling the need for more. But apparently the good thing about flagships to us is that they make what we consider good gear mainstream and affordable. I had to buy a new PC the other day and I ended up with an odd looking and tinny HP Mini i5 8gb plugged into a 32' TV. Waaay cheaper than an entry level gaming rig, does everything I want effortlessly, doesn't take up room... so there's a good thing about getting old (I'm 38 btw)
More on topic though, and picking up your point about past flagships, I've just found the Galaxy S6 Active. I had never seen one of those things before, don't think it was ever on sale here in Portugal. Ugly as hell, looks like something made for the zombie apocalypse but it's an S6 with a top notch battery! That could be interesting, must check that one out better...
If it's not an AT&T exclusive and available everywhere, it would have been an obvious choice for some.
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Honestly dude, this is a very good value phone. Performance with the underpowered chip is really pretty good minus the occasional hiccup (I don't game, but I like a fluid ui... which this definitely has 99% of the time. Sometimes it'll hang for a bit under load but sorts itself out pretty quickly and is a very minor nuisance). The battery is a beast too. I dunno what setup the other guy has that he's only getting average BL (xposed cuts life in half I've noticed, so I stopped using it), but mine is great. Build quality feels kinda cheap and the way it rattles when it vibrates makes me cringe, but this is not a flagship phone. I got mine for 150 CAD outright on a carrier promo, but honestly I'd still be satisfied if I paid double that
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I was comparing the X Play's battery to G2's battery
Compared to most flagship's available now, yes the battery is a Monster but with G2, it's only a slight bump (not the capacity but the actual performance) and i thought he was looking to replace his G2
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It can be had unlocked, I've looked into ebay and I can get one from within the EU but they look like unlocked and tested AT&T used units. Price is about the same or higher than a brand new X Play. And despite being checked units with warranty, that still doesn't tell me if it has a fresh battery in it or not - probably not. Getting one from the US is out of the question as with taxes and duties the price could easily be 30 to 40% higher.
That and the fact that it is an AT&T phone. My current one is also an AT&T branded unit and it's a PITA to update it. No OTA updates for me as I'm not in the US and the phone has to be registered to the network to get the updates - or something like that, don't really know that works but I have to manually flash it.
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I was comparing the X Play's battery to G2's battery
Compared to most flagship's available now, yes the battery is a Monster but with G2, it's only a slight bump (not the capacity but the actual performance) and i thought he was looking to replace his G2
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I sort of am yekollu, but it's not like I need a new phone because mine is about to die, it's more the capricious wish to have a new toy. My G2 is getting old in the way it has some scuffs to the body (mostly hidden by a low profile case) and battery went through many cycles already but its health is still good. I just thought that after a couple of years not looking into phones things would have leaped hugely and the most recent models would wipe the floor with the G2. Some do but only in high end games I don't play and at the cost of having to have the phone constantly charging.
I still haven't gave up on the idea of a replacement and the X Play is a strong candidate as battery life is more important to me than most things but I'm not yet convinced I'll feel like it was money well spent. I do appreciate your and other people's feedback as reviews have wildly different numbers and results, and I don't know how some of those numbers translate to everyday real usage. :highfive:
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I sort of am yekollu, but it's not like I need a new phone because mine is about to die, it's more the capricious wish to have a new toy. My G2 is getting old in the way it has some scuffs to the body (mostly hidden by a low profile case) and battery went through many cycles already but its health is still good. I just thought that after a couple of years not looking into phones things would have leaped hugely and the most recent models would wipe the floor with the G2. Some do but only in high end games I don't play and at the cost of having to have the phone constantly charging.
I still haven't gave up on the idea of a replacement and the X Play is a strong candidate as battery life is more important to me than most things but I'm not yet convinced I'll feel like it was money well spent. I do appreciate your and other people's feedback as reviews have wildly different numbers and results, and I don't know how some of those numbers translate to everyday real usage. :highfive:
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If it's battery life, go for X play!! Like i mentioned earlier even though it's slightly better than G2, it's much better than most other phones available now (I still use my G2 as standby phone).
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If it's battery life, go for X play!! Like i mentioned earlier even though it's slightly better than G2, it's much better than most other phones available now (I still use my G2 as standby phone).
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I just got another email from GB about the Elephone P9000 Power... at 180 bucks from China (so import duties most likely on top of that), and from a couple of youtube reviews I've seen, might be something worth the punt. As fas as I can tell, it runs stock Android also. It's a big 5.5 screen but so is the Moto and this thing looks a lot more compact. Sounds and looks too good to be true, so I'll have to look more into it. If what they, costumers and reviewers are saying is true, this is the real flagship killer and best phone to beat by a country mile.
...man, 6050mah battery?? And stock Android so no more ties to a company I don't know on the update side of things?
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I just got another email from GB about the Elephone P9000 Power... at 180 bucks from China (so import duties most likely on top of that), and from a couple of youtube reviews I've seen, might be something worth the punt. As fas as I can tell, it runs stock Android also. It's a big 5.5 screen but so is the Moto and this thing looks a lot more compact. Sounds and looks too good to be true, so I'll have to look more into it. If what they, costumers and reviewers are saying is true, this is the real flagship killer and best phone to beat by a country mile.
...man, 6050mah battery?? And stock Android so no more ties to a company I don't know on the update side of things?
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Dont buy those chinese phone. Their battery capacity is only good on paper. Im not even sure that they put real capacity on it
I'll post these screenshots to give you an idea of my battery usage. It's a beast in standby with MM as well my friend. I haven't modded mine much either, just rooted and gravitybox.
Oh I actually just remembered another phone that may interest you. The Alcatel Idol 3 5.5. It doesn't have the same size battery, but similar chipset. I played with it in store and it seems quite capable. I'm not sure about software updates though, haven't heart about MM for it yet.
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Way better battery life then when I had a G2, just saying..
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Dont buy those chinese phone. Their battery capacity is only good on paper. Im not even sure that they put real capacity on it
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Of course not... I can't even find their site. Or maybe a do but if that's their site... To make it worst, I know the brand from the electronic cigarette world, which was the only thing that worked at stopping me from smoking. They have a very cheap device with awful QC. They sound like a brand that will trough an electronic device together if they can find some NOS parts and with no clear focus or market.
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I'll post these screenshots to give you an idea of my battery usage. It's a beast in standby with MM as well my friend. I haven't modded mine much either, just rooted and gravitybox.
Oh I actually just remembered another phone that may interest you. The Alcatel Idol 3 5.5. It doesn't have the same size battery, but similar chipset. I played with it in store and it seems quite capable. I'm not sure about software updates though, haven't heart about MM for it yet.
Thanks! The more I look into this, and even without an urgent need to switch phones, the more interesting it looks. What sucks here in Europe is the price. It's a good price at just under €400 but no quick charger or anything. And the phones like the G4 or the Nexus 5x can be found cheaper. All worst on battery but still hard not to think about those for the price...
The US gets much nicer stuff, no fair! The Moto Droid 2 Turbo (or something like that) looks like a beasty, including battery life. But just like the S6 Active was an AT&T exclusive, the Droid 2 is a Verizon exclusive. No Moto Maker also but that's not a real bummer with the Play, I would end up with a similar look for it anyway. Not a fan of metal or matchy matchy colours that aren't either dark grey or black.
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Way better battery life then when I had a G2, just saying..
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The G2 has a great battery life only because most flagship phones suck at that. I came to the G2 from an HTC OneX, flagship for less than a month because HTC released the OneX+ right away and without warning there would be such a thing. Essentially the same thing with a bigger battery because the original would last half the time of a G2. So the LG looked amazing to me.
I now can't say for sure but I'm pretty certain I could go through a whole day of heavy use when I owned the first Galaxy. Those AMOLED displays wouldn't use much battery... you couldn't see a thing when on the outside but they were great little phones when in dark, smoky bars frequented by ladies of dubious reputation
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Of course not... I can't even find their site. Or maybe a do but if that's their site... To make it worst, I know the brand from the electronic cigarette world, which was the only thing that worked at stopping me from smoking. They have a very cheap device with awful QC. They sound like a brand that will trough an electronic device together if they can find some NOS parts and with no clear focus or market.
The G2 has a great battery life only because most flagship phones suck at that. I came to the G2 from an HTC OneX, flagship for less than a month because HTC released the OneX+ right away and without warning there would be such a thing. Essentially the same thing with a bigger battery because the original would last half the time of a G2. So the LG looked amazing to me.
I now can't say for sure but I'm pretty certain I could go through a whole day of heavy use when I owned the first Galaxy. Those AMOLED displays wouldn't use much battery... you couldn't see a thing when on the outside but they were great little phones when in dark, smoky bars frequented by ladies of dubious reputation
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You can try samsung galaxy a7 2016.
Touchwiz is better now and the screen and battery is great
Thanks for the original poster for this thread, because i am actually looking at the exact same doubt. I don't own a G2 right now, but i did in the past and i achieve 8 something hours SOT. I also found the battery life reviews tricky, with some stating massive stand by times and others just getting 4.5 hours SOT.
Also... the price difference is huge right now. We can get a decent G2 for 150 CAD$, and a moto x play on Wind carrier, still sells for 450 CAD$, plus tax, which totals 500$...
Shouldn't we be all achieve at least 8 hours with moderate usage? web browsing, calls, texts, facebook?
so... USED LG G2, or NEW Moto x play?
The difference in SOT amongst users comes down down to different usage scenarios.
Battery life will deplete according to 2g/3g/4g mode.
Also whether mobile data is used or wifi is used also counts.
The brightness at which phone is used also counts.
The signal reception of area again counts.
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LG G5 reviews

the reviews are starting to come :
Digital Trends
Forbes
Trusted Reviews
GSM Arena
Seems like the "reviews" are playing it safe at this point. No one seems to be blown away by the phone just yet.
Mine is on pre order so I guess I will know soon. Despite having returned both G4 and V10 I'll keep an open mind.
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I had a feeling battery life wouldn't be too great.
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barondebxl said:
I had a feeling battery life wouldn't be too great.
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It blows mate, it's like an iphone.
Actually, review are bad....
I don't know why they take the time to test the S7, particulary with the camera. With the LG G5 review, We see so many bloom of samples even with daylight and very few low light samples... When we know the quality of the LG G4 and we read than the LG G is a little better, the reviews don't seems to push the quality of the camera.
Maybe LG don't have give enough money for the reviews^^
For the battery, it's not a problem with QuickCharge 3 or the removable battery or an support battery or .... When i see in the reviews the lack of wireless charging, what's the problem ? We lost more energy to charge an smartphone than charge it himself. Maybe in ten years, wireless could be gone, but if you have a family with all the devices who use actually, the wireless charging, welcome to your bill of electricity !
Finally, a good thing : the speaker for the voice communication. With all my Samsung devices, i find the sound is bad, with Motorola, it's excellent and with LG also.
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the reviews are starting to come :
Digital Trends
Forbes
Trusted Reviews
GSM Arena
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All video reviews filtered by recent:
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=lg+g5+review&sp=EgIIAg%3D%3D
AlwaysQuestion said:
Actually, review are bad....
I don't know why they take the time to test the S7, particulary with the camera. With the LG G5 review, We see so many bloom of samples even with daylight and very few low light samples... When we know the quality of the LG G4 and we read than the LG G is a little better, the reviews don't seems to push the quality of the camera.
Maybe LG don't have give enough money for the reviews^^
For the battery, it's not a problem with QuickCharge 3 or the removable battery or an support battery or .... When i see in the reviews the lack of wireless charging, what's the problem ? We lost more energy to charge an smartphone than charge it himself. Maybe in ten years, wireless could be gone, but if you have a family with all the devices who use actually, the wireless charging, welcome to your bill of electricity !
Finally, a good thing : the speaker for the voice communication. With all my Samsung devices, i find the sound is bad, with Motorola, it's excellent and with LG also.
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all these reviews use a Pre production unit with non final software... so we all wait for full reviews after availability
iMaterial said:
It blows mate, it's like an iphone.
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I prefer Android.Let's stick to the pursuit of better android
Until you've used the phone 3 weeks all day every day that is the only review you can trust. I can't wait to write my G5 review. My S7 Edge review goes live tomorrow. And just 10 mins after writing the Review my S7 Edge ground to a halt. Deleting photos in the gallery quickly and the phone can't keep up.
So after I thought the S7 Edge was really good I'm now in a dilemma. Probably a bug.
With all the early previews they give you an idea but not true reality. I'm very excited over the G5.
Damn, battery life sucks and the screen sucks too, what are those, this Delta E is highhh 5.6 average up to more than 10 and this low brightness.
FAILED.
iMaterial said:
It blows mate, it's like an iphone.
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But how can you possibly say that?
And that other guy that says the battery life sucks. You both telepathic? From the reviews I've watched or read they've said they were pleasantly surprised, again that's on a pre production unit
sstanton86 said:
But how can you possibly say that?
And that other guy that says the battery life sucks. You both telepathic? From the reviews I've watched or read they've said they were pleasantly surprised, again that's on a pre production unit
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I'm quite surprise too, it's not comparable to S7 (according to GSMArena results) but still is better than both G4 and V10
A little bit better for the battery life, a little bit. Pre unit or not, it's always the same, when they say it's pre unit it's the final software and hardware... and means it sucks.
I must have watched a million reviews online about mobiles and ever since the "smartphone" came out all everyone says is battery life could be better. I'm personally not too bothered, plus I'd rather have poor battery life on a phone which I can change the battery on. Either I've preordered mine and can't wait for its arrival.
I read up on this phone daily, and though all the previews/reviews make note of the fact they are using a pre-release unit, most seem to agree battery life isn't up to par and the module clip/battery is not easy to remove/replace. I've read/seen previews where they almost thought they were going to break something, and that is not good.
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I read up on this phone daily, and though all the previews/reviews make note of the fact they are using a pre-release unit, most seem to agree battery life isn't up to par and the module clip/battery is not easy to remove/replace. I've read/seen previews where they almost thought they were going to break something, and that is not good.
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All because it's something new in my opinion. Of course you have the thought in the back of your mind about breaking it. No other phone has ever let you rip apart the bottom half lol.
But always a double edge sword, if it were to easily slide out, ppl would complain about build quality and the potential of the module slipping out on basic usage. The community's will always have their own thoughts. And I agree with the fellow a couple post ahead of me, literally every single smartphone that has ever been announced the people said they wanted longer battery life lmao. If I get an hour less standby time than my buddy with an S7. Who cares. I save 2 hours of charge time by swapping out another battery in 30 seconds or less. Im a huge phone buff and I have to say I'm more than ecstatic about this device.
"LG's G5 Smartphone Is A Giant Leap In Photographic Capabilities Over The G4"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/patrick...raphic-capabilities-over-the-g4/#ec273e833d00
Looks better in automatic mode maybe, but giant leap ?
DoKaTSuYa said:
"LG's G5 Smartphone Is A Giant Leap In Photographic Capabilities Over The G4"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/patrick...raphic-capabilities-over-the-g4/#ec273e833d00
Looks better in automatic mode maybe, but giant leap ?
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Giant leap is a bit of an exaggeration, but their examples were quite good. That again was also a pre-production sample they were using. I personally am very much looking forward to the camera on this phone.
MobileSyrup's review:
https://youtu.be/_7B8PGyrLR0
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Killua96 said:
I'm quite surprise too, it's not comparable to S7 (according to GSMArena results) but still is better than both G4 and V10
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http://www.greenbot.com/article/3045340/android/lg-g5-benchmarks.html
Battery performance the same so as usual take all reviews with a pinch of salt. Some reviews claim S7 last a little ,onger but then mention the swappable battery on the G5 so usual a draw in comparison.

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