White balance - Xperia Z2 General

Sony, please fix white balance in your sensors
Alpha (samsung sensor), S5 (samsung sensor), Xperia Z2 (sony sensor)
http://s7.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2014/08/4852cf32c73ac8ec285af5208a61ef0e.jpg
Alpha (samsung sensor), One (ST-Microelectronics sensor)
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Alpha (samsung sensor), iPhone 5s (sony sensor), One (ST-Microelectronics sensor)
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Alpha (samsung sensor), Note 3 (sony imx135), Galaxy S4 (Samsung S5K3L2)
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All have Sony imx214 sensor
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Alpha (samsung sensor), Lumia 1020 (nokia sensor), Nokia 808 (nokia sensor)
http://s7.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2014/08/57f72f2f5d1ee2e1d60a38236f0d10c2.jpg
Also Samsung sensor (lenovo k920) vs Sony sensor (lg g3)
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/lenovo-vibe-z2.shtml#s7
samsung sensor vs sony sensor
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http://pp.vk.me/c618826/v618826401/95e2/NMeVKQWoFs0.jpg
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-G3-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S5_id3724/page/3
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...one-5s-LG-G2-Sony-Xperia-Z2-HTC-One-M8_id3728
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...hird-time-in-a-row-LG-G3-close-second_id57178
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...G2-iPhone-5s-HTC-One-M8-Sony-Xperia-Z1_id3694

White balance is a function of the image processing, not the sensor. (And it's very much personal taste, too. Some want all trace of the original light source removed, others prefer some to remain.)
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knoxploration said:
White balance is a function of the image processing, not the sensor. (And it's very much personal taste, too. Some want all trace of the original light source removed, others prefer some to remain.)
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Nobody wants to have yellow pictures and videos, you're lying, just nobody looks the tests and comparisons
"White balance is a function of the image processing, not the sensor"
Why apple, samsung, lg, sony, xiaomi, oppo, oneplusone shooting the same yellow photo and video?

sonyfan12 said:
Nobody wants to have yellow pictures and videos, you're lying, just nobody looks the tests and comparisons
"White balance is a function of the image processing, not the sensor"
Why apple, samsung, lg, sony, xiaomi, oppo, oneplusone shooting the same yellow photo and video?
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Wow no need to accuse him lying dude. I personally don't have any problem with the slight yellowish tint. I believe sony wouldn't be so reckless to release sensors that are "bad" as they tested it. IMO maybe its just like the screens we have on different phones like samsung like it super saturated and other not really. Matter of preference i would say.
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zyotty said:
Wow no need to accuse him lying dude. I personally don't have any problem with the slight yellowish tint. I believe sony wouldn't be so reckless to release sensors that are "bad" as they tested it. IMO maybe its just like the screens we have on different phones like samsung like it super saturated and other not really. Matter of preference i would say.
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After z3 and this screen of z2 is quite in keeping with Sony
samsung gives you the opportunity to choose between normal and oversaturation colors, and oversaturation occurs only at srgb images (95% of all content), because this mode is designed to adobe rgb images

sonyfan12 said:
Nobody wants to have yellow pictures and videos, you're lying, just nobody looks the tests and comparisons
"White balance is a function of the image processing, not the sensor"
Why apple, samsung, lg, sony, xiaomi, oppo, oneplusone shooting the same yellow photo and video?
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If I'm lying, explain why standalone camera manufacturers are specifically adding a feature to their cameras that retains some color from the source lighting. (Eg. Pentax's Color Temperature Enhancement aka CTE white balance, which will intentionally give slightly warm /yellowish results under incandescent light).
And if it's a function of the image sensor, not the processor, please explain how standalone cameras yield different results when using the same sensor, or for that matter why you can adjust those results yourself when you shoot raw?
If you can't answer either of those (and you can't), then I'm not lying and you owe me an apology.
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knoxploration said:
If I'm lying, explain why standalone camera manufacturers are specifically adding a feature to their cameras that retains some color from the source lighting. (Eg. Pentax's Color Temperature Enhancement aka CTE white balance, which will intentionally give slightly warm /yellowish results under incandescent light).
And if it's a function of the image sensor, not the processor, please explain how standalone cameras yield different results when using the same sensor, or for that matter why you can adjust those results yourself when you shoot raw?
If you can't answer either of those (and you can't), then I'm not lying and you owe me an apology.
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You answered. "adding a feature" "under incandescent light"
About sensors I answered in first post. This is engineer mistake or bug on low level (soft)

sonyfan12 said:
You answered. "adding a feature" "under incandescent light"
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Please answer again, but this time in English and using whole sentences.
About sensors I answered in first post. This is engineer mistake or bug on low level (soft)
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Sensors do not choose white balance; the processor does. The "low level soft" [sic] that you referred to is in the processor. Other than analog-to-digital conversion, no processing is done in the sensor itself. Not all sensors even do A-D conversion on-chip, though most do these days. All the sensor itself does is count photons and clock the data off for processing externally.

knoxploration said:
Please answer again, but this time in English and using whole sentences.
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What you do not understand? You answered your own question. "adding a feature" "under incandescent light"
Sensors do not choose white balance; the processor does. The "low level soft" [sic] that you referred to is in the processor. Other than analog-to-digital conversion, no processing is done in the sensor itself. Not all sensors even do A-D conversion on-chip, though most do these days. All the sensor itself does is count photons and clock the data off for processing externally.
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Sensor passes more warm and less the rest of the spectrum. Again. Why apple, samsung, lg, sony, xiaomi, oppo, oneplusone shooting the same yellow photo and video?

sonyfan12 said:
What you do not understand? You answered your own question. "adding a feature" "under incandescent light"
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No, I did not. My question was why, if nobody wants the original source lighting to remain visible (eg. warmth under incandescent and sunlight, especially sunset light; cool under fluorescent, etc.), is this feature intentionally being added to standalone cameras?
The answer, since you're too cowardly to admit you're wrong, is that it is being added precisely because people *do* want some hint of light source hue to remain, because it looks unnatural to your eyes if for example shots clearly under incandescent light show no warmth -- because if you were there your eyes would perceive warmth.
Sensor passes more warm and less the rest of the spectrum. Again. Why apple, samsung, lg, sony, xiaomi, oppo, oneplusone shooting the same yellow photo and video?
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You clearly know nothing about how image sensors work. I suggest you go do some reading on the topic.

knoxploration said:
No, I did not. My question was why, if nobody wants the original source lighting to remain visible (eg. warmth under incandescent and sunlight, especially sunset light; cool under fluorescent, etc.), is this feature intentionally being added to standalone cameras?
The answer, since you're too cowardly to admit you're wrong, is that it is being added precisely because people *do* want some hint of light source hue to remain, because it looks unnatural to your eyes if for example shots clearly under incandescent light show no warmth -- because if you were there your eyes would perceive warmth.
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Why not original?
Watch my links, original color is not yellow. If in the room or outdoors will be a source of yellow light, the normal sensors (samsung, nokia, st-microelectoronics) show it. Sony sensors distort colors, everywhere showing a lot of yellow, where it is not. Admit it already. It's obvious. You just humiliate yourself and look like a goner fan
You clearly know nothing about how image sensors work. I suggest you go do some reading on the topic.
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lol. just go away

sonyfan12 said:
Why not original?
Watch my links, original color is not yellow. If in the room or outdoors will be a source of yellow light, the normal sensors (samsung, nokia, st-microelectoronics) show it. Sony sensors distort colors, everywhere showing a lot of yellow, where it is not. Admit it already. It's obvious. You just humiliate yourself and look like a goner fan
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No, they don't. If you have yellow pictures outdoors, you have a problem. Perhaps you should stop smearing peanut butter on the lens.
lol. just go away
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I've got an easier solution. You're a troll; you're on ignore. Buh-bye now, you don't get the last word.

knoxploration said:
No, they don't.
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omg
If you have yellow pictures outdoors, you have a problem. Perhaps you should stop smearing peanut butter on the lens.
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WHAT?

comparison wth DSLR cameras
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/366x727q90/633/39sG4t.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/367x734q50/907/N17fTs.jpg

Is it me or I haven't ever had this problem? My pictures don't have a yellowish tint, but thats maybe cause I always choose the settings in manual. But also if the pics look yellowish on the screen on the Z2... You can make the white balance better? I can tell you the settings to put to fix that OS wide yellow, it gives you real whites!

ArmedHitman said:
Is it me or I haven't ever had this problem? My pictures don't have a yellowish tint, but thats maybe cause I always choose the settings in manual. But also if the pics look yellowish on the screen on the Z2... You can make the white balance better? I can tell you the settings to put to fix that OS wide yellow, it gives you real whites!
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He's not interested in help, he's trolling. (And gets very angry when you point out that he has no idea what he's talking about.)

knoxploration said:
He's not interested in help, he's trolling. (And gets very angry when you point out that he has no idea what he's talking about.)
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I guess his name gives it away.

ArmedHitman said:
Is it me or I haven't ever had this problem? My pictures don't have a yellowish tint, but thats maybe cause I always choose the settings in manual. But also if the pics look yellowish on the screen on the Z2... You can make the white balance better? I can tell you the settings to put to fix that OS wide yellow, it gives you real whites!
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Because you do not compare. I thought so too until comparisons. Settings do not help, I've tried. And all of these tests are also made ​​with normal settings

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He's not interested in help, he's trolling. (And gets very angry when you point out that he has no idea what he's talking about.)
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goner fan attacks

i had quite a terrible yellowish hue to alot of my indoor pictures but my new unit doesnt suffer this problem, they are just lightly tinted yellow with correct manual settings
outdoor shots in daylight are solid, color reproduction is solid
i do believe the sensor may be at fault because this issue arises across all firmwares weather the camera driver be peices of stock.. or ones built from scratch
lets hope your reading sony...

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Are there apps that take better photos and videos than the stock Camera app?

Hi, I don't know how various settings affect the results. However, I wish to be able to take excellent photos and videos under different conditions. Are there any good apps that take better photos and videos than the stock Camera App? I am using GB. Thanks
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Or 1up
Might be dependant on hardware cause of varying quality pics
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what is wrong with pictures taken by the stock camera app? can you provide some example of a 'bad picture'?.
if you want an interface that is more DSLR like try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite
here are some of my pics, i dont feel that they are of bad quality for a 'phone camera'.
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_164915.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120525_151334.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_191654.jpg
I am happy with the stock camera.. Many features too
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Perhaps it is better to talk about this via samples.
Any suggestion on better camera settings is appreciated.
I guess I may need an app that stores a set of preset settings
for taking photos/videos under different environments. Thanks.
In photo 1, I do not know why the ceiling lights are like that.
I changed various settings but there was no improvement.
In some cases, the overall color of the room changed.
In photo 2, the room appeared to be dark but it was not.
I changed the flash to auto, on along with changing other
settings. The room still appeared to be dark.
In photo 3, again, that place was not dark. Setting the flash
to auto or on did not help.
In photo 4, everything including the room appears to be somewhat yellowish.
In reality, the wall is white and the pillows are gray.
madbird said:
what is wrong with pictures taken by the stock camera app? can you provide some example of a 'bad picture'?.
if you want an interface that is more DSLR like try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.lite
here are some of my pics, i dont fell that the are of bad quality for a 'phone camera'.
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_164915.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120525_151334.jpg
http://www.flugbaerchen.de/lnkimg/egypt12/20120506_191654.jpg
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Thanks for the suggestion but I am not a professional. I don't know how various settings affect the results. By the time I have tested out various settings, things that I want to capture will have been gone.
ah now things are getting clearer . your pictures looks a little bit like something is wrong with the 'white balance' of your camera. so you can try different settings for the white balance, the default should be automatic (AWB). I'm not an photoexpert too, but maybe some one else can guide you further with this.
Thanks for pointing this out. I also tried white balance but it did not help. Perhaps I did not do it properly. Hoping somebody could provide some tips. Are the strong glares from the ceiling lights in photo 1 also caused by the white balance?
hajime_android said:
In photo 1, I do not know why the ceiling lights are like that.
I changed various settings but there was no improvement.
In some cases, the overall color of the room changed.
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This effect on the ceiling lights is due to a hardware fault, there are no settings within the phone that can correct this. You can try, like me, and use photoshop. For me, its no problem because I have used photoshop for many years, but others are not so fortunate. This fault is well documented. Samsung know about it, yet have done nothing to correct it. The only way is to send the unit back to the retailer for a new unit. I tried three or four brand new units and they were all the same.
In general. The camera has limitations because of its size and proximity to other circuitry that may introduce noise etc. Its 8megapix with a tiny lens, so as is, I feel it does a pretty good job (apart from that pink dot that is). To get better pictures, consider post processing with photoshop. If that's not an option, and quite frankly I would not recommend purchasing it just for pics from any camphone, try the GIMP, its free and does an awful lot to enhance your pics. You can find the GIMP here www.gimp.org it will run on linux, windows and the Mac
Hope that helps
So, getting something like Camera ZOOM FX won't help.
hajime_android said:
So, getting something like Camera ZOOM FX won't help.
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Nope. sorry about that.
bigstarrynight said:
This effect on the ceiling lights is due to a hardware fault, there are no settings within the phone that can correct this.
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Is there a name for this hardware fault? Does the S3 has this problem as well?
hajime_android said:
Is there a name for this hardware fault? Does the S3 has this problem as well?
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Good question. I know the S2 does, and we all know about the Galaxy Note. I can see evidence of the problem on a slashgear.com presentation, and its that presentation that stopped me from going over to the S3. However, there are plenty of youtube tests where it seems pretty good. The S3 has only just been released, so it might be a while more before any issues become apparent. I think its one where you try before you buy. Personally, I'm not touching either the S3 or the 'Note until I have proof that the issue has been resolved.
Edit. The fault is commonly known as "the pink dot"
In photo 1 was the lens clean? Might sound obvious but even the slightest bit of grease or diet can affect how sources of light spear in photos. Typically in any photo I take where I light bulb or something similar is in the picture if the lens was not completely clean I got a similar effect as in photo 1
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spfraggle said:
In photo 1 was the lens clean? Might sound obvious but even the slightest bit of grease or diet can affect how sources of light spear in photos. Typically in any photo I take where I light bulb or something similar is in the picture if the lens was not completely clean I got a similar effect as in photo 1
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Well, there must be a lot of pink dirt around. My crappy clam phone must have pink dirt repellent, because no matter how greasy the lens gets, pics from it don't have a pink dot. Neither does my DSLR when the uv filter gets filthy, or my specs come to that. Sorry, but the dirt bit on this issue is a red herring. The camera has a defect.
I use UCam. A lot of "pro" settings and also some cool. And... you can disable shutter sound.
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i think you should send the device to service/repair, because i think this is an hardware issue. i saw a lot of pictures taken by the note (not only my own device) and they are al just fine with the standard settings.
I just noticed that there is a protective film covering the back camera. Probably Samsung put it there to protect the lens. Do you think this is the cause to all of my problems? Am I supposed to remove it? For the first few days after purchase (3 weeks ago), the Note took excellent photos. As for last week and the week before that, it depends. The thin protective film has been there right from the beginning. Let's say the protective film covering the lens caused the pink dot, how do you explain why the cafe in photos 2 and 3 appeared to be dark whereas in reality, it was not. Also, photo 4 looks yellowish overall.
Hi,
Protective film would most likely create the effect on pic one. (which would be visible when a direct light source or reflection is in the frame.)
Pic two - could be a metering issue. Try changing the (cog wheel =>) metering setting and / or exposure level.
Yellowish photo is the result of incorrect "white balance". Change the white balance setting to incandescent.
I'm using both the stock ICS camera and camera zoom fx. On my previous phone the fx produced much better photos than the stock one. On my G - Note I don't see much difference.
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I just noticed that there is a protective film covering the back camera. Probably Samsung put it there to protect the lens.
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Yes you are supposed to remove it. It does say so in the instructions that came with your phone. Check the camera after you have done this.

Something I find amazing about the S3 camera!

I've just discovered something very interesting about the S3 camera -its ability to use very -and i mean VERY high shutter speeds. I first noticed it in the EXIF data of a shot taken into a misty sun...a shutter speed of 1/10,000th second..so I decided to experiment a little to see what the shortest shutter speed the camera was capable of. I first took a close up photo of 250w infrared bulb filament with the bulb on. The result? A clear picture of the filament at 1/55,000th of a second! The highest I've seen so far is an only slightly overexposed closeup shot of the emitting surfaces of a 5w LED bulb straight on at 1/199,680th of a second!!. That's 1/200,000th of a second!!
This must be near a record for any consumer camera...now to find a use for it Filament photos becme a little boring after a while......
Post the picture?
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Post the picture?
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Yup, curious about the photo too
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Note the almost black LED surround in reality is too bright to see properly by eye, the LEDs are just a blaze of brightness, not discernible by eye. Check the EXIF data for exposure.
http://www.carbontide.com/led.jpg
http://www.carbontide.com/bulb.jpg
You don't have any noise in your picture. How come? :-o
I want my Canon EOS 550 to do that (no more NDs needed)
Noise
DeadSOL said:
You don't have any noise in your picture. How come? :-o
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I've never noticed much noise in my S3 camera, besides at the reduced size of the images you wouldn't see noise anyway. If you're getting what you feel is 'noise' have you made sure your camera lens covering glass is scrupulously clean?
(BTW before the noise debate rises again I have a Sony module camera in my S3, my wife's S3 has a Samsung camera module and appears to have about the same noise level as noise as mine -both are excellent for such a small sensor)
nokia n8 camera can also do that for you...better than s3 i suppose!
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DeadSOL said:
You don't have any noise in your picture. How come? :-o
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Here's the original shot that triggered my interest (full sized) taken with my wife's Samsung camera module S3. Not too bad for noise I think, check the clouds -the unresolved distant gravel and mist droplets look like noise but aren't.
http://www.carbontide.com/drive.jpg
kiwi_radical said:
Here's the original shot that triggered my interest (full sized) taken with my wife's Samsung camera module S3. Not too bad for noise I think, check the clouds -the unresolved distant gravel and mist droplets look like noise but aren't.
http://www.carbontide.com/drive.jpg
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That would make a good homescreen wallpaper!
My wife uses it as her homescreen wallpaper.
kiwi_radical said:
Here's the original shot that triggered my interest (full sized) taken with my wife's Samsung camera module S3. Not too bad for noise I think, check the clouds -the unresolved distant gravel and mist droplets look like noise but aren't.
http://www.carbontide.com/drive.jpg
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Yeah, I agree. It's a brilliant shot with minimal amount of noise. The S3 does indeed have an excellent camera but it doesn't perform in medium to low light conditions as expected. For example, my friends and I went to a somewhat dimly lit restaurant. Let's say it was just above low light conditions. The camera took rather blurry pictures (as expected of moving subjects in low light conditions) and there was a large amount of noise in the picture.
I've attached the picture (it is cropped a bit at the top). You can see a large amount of noise on the blue table.
Actually, I wonder if the "party/indoor" scene in the camera might have resolved this issue. It seems to be doing quite a fine job on dark indoor pictures right now. Hmmm...
Really???
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Yeah, I agree. It's a brilliant shot with minimal amount of noise. The S3 does indeed have an excellent camera but it doesn't perform in medium to low light conditions as expected. For example, my friends and I went to a somewhat dimly lit restaurant. Let's say it was just above low light conditions. The camera took rather blurry pictures (as expected of moving subjects in low light conditions) and there was a large amount of noise in the picture.
I've attached the picture (it is cropped a bit at the top). You can see a large amount of noise on the blue table.
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Hey come on now, that's low light.and I'd call the amount of noise totally reasonable for a high ISO, low light shot. The level of noise is way below the resolution of the photo..i.e.the noise is sharp the image isn't from camera shake. You're expected a lot from a phone camera. I've been a photographer for 40 years...from long before digital cameras and I'm very happy with the performance of my S3 in low light..I think it's nothing short of marvelous for a phone camera!
Samsung could have easily included more noise reduction for high ISO shots, but it would have reduced resolution, its always a trade off.
If you're worried about noise check out Noise Ninja..(for PC) with it you can select your own trade offs between visible noise and resolution on any given image.
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Ah, okay. lol. Well, I suppose I have high expectations because I've been using a DSLR a lot for the past few weeks.
I just took a few more outdoor sunlight shots and they're brilliant! So, no big gripes with the camera.
Z3US911 said:
nokia n8 camera can also do that for you...better than s3 i suppose!
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But it runs on outdated out phased symbian
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kiwi_radical said:
I've just discovered something very interesting about the S3 camera -its ability to use very -and i mean VERY high shutter speeds. I first noticed it in the EXIF data of a shot taken into a misty sun...a shutter speed of 1/10,000th second..so I decided to experiment a little to see what the shortest shutter speed the camera was capable of. I first took a close up photo of 250w infrared bulb filament with the bulb on. The result? A clear picture of the filament at 1/55,000th of a second! The highest I've seen so far is an only slightly overexposed closeup shot of the emitting surfaces of a 5w LED bulb straight on at 1/199,680th of a second!!. That's 1/200,000th of a second!!
This must be near a record for any consumer camera...now to find a use for it Filament photos becme a little boring after a while......
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how about the possibility that the EXIF data might be wrong? how else can you verify the true speed with what the EXIF says? shoot a hummingbird in mid flight?
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But it runs on outdated out phased symbian
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oo yeah! symbian is **** like hell.
but we r talking abt camera here
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EXIF validity
lukesky said:
how about the possibility that the EXIF data might be wrong? how else can you verify the true speed with what the EXIF says? shoot a hummingbird in mid flight?
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Firstly experience tells me it's very bright...after all 1/200,000th @ F2.6 is roughly the same as 1/6000 @ f16 which is about 35 times brighter than full sunlight on a 18% gray card...that seems reasonable.given that it's looking right into a very bright light.
Second, I then metered it with my DSLR and got 1/8000th @ F22 at 100 ISO which equates to 1/256,000 @ F4 which is close enough for me.to the S3's overexposure at 1/200,000th @ F2.6 at ISO80
So I think it's both using a real 1/200,000th, and writing the EXIF data correctly.
Z3US911 said:
nokia n8 camera can also do that for you...better than s3 i suppose!
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+1
Love n8 camera.. but i hate it OS.. LOL
bala_gamer said:
But it runs on outdated out phased symbian
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yeap, but the camera is still great :good:

HTC one great phone, lacks focus

I mean it in a literal sense.
If you look at the image below, youll be able to see that its a bit blurry,
I've drawn 2 black lines in the image, notice that the top and the bottom is blurry and the center is focused.
It doesnt occur alot, but it does happen and sometimes even in videos.
Any help as to why? Perhaps 4.2.2 might fix this?
I think the DOF is so narrow because the lens has a wide aperture of F2.0 which helps in low light.
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I think the DOF is so narrow because the lens has a wide aperture of F2.0 which helps in low light.
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Can you explain what DOF is?
Is there anyway I could fix it? You think anyone else has this problem?
"depth of field (DOF) is the distance between the nearest and farthest objects in a scene that appear acceptably sharp in an image." - (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field)
And I don't think it's a problem. It's just how the lens is made with a large aperture to allow more light in to the image sensor.
You could try to compensate this a bit by increasing the sharpness from the camera menu.
I'd be more concerned with the poor dynamic range shown in the top of the pic. ;O)
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That`s totally normal for the one, it only exposes the focus point, instead of the whole image, could htc not have given us a choice
John.
americasteam said:
I'd be more concerned with the poor dynamic range shown in the top of the pic. ;O)
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
That`s totally normal for the one, it only exposes the focus point, instead of the whole image, could htc not have given us a choice
John.
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Well that sucks. One of the reasons I bought this phone was for the camera.
Do you know anyway I could fix this? or atleast minimize it?
The problem is when the image contains both dark and bright areas, if you focus on the bright, the dark areas will be underexposed and if you focus on the dark the bright areas will be overexposed, you need to find an area to focus on that will give you an average exposure for the entire image.
I have the same problem, but some photo`s are amazing and some are utter crap.
Try using hdr mode, it takes multiple images at different exposure levels and then integrates them into one photo, but you need to keep the phone very steady, hopefully HTC will fix this problem.
John.
uzman1243 said:
Well that sucks. One of the reasons I bought this phone was for the camera.
Do you know anyway I could fix this? or atleast minimize it?
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Mine does this as well. Easiest fix I've come across is just tapping on the screen in the area you want focused...it seems to hold focus better after the first time and the photos look a lot better.
Problem is, I generally forget about this until after the first picture is taken without it. So it's a process for sure.
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Has anybody tried some other camera apps from the play store, maybe we can find one that exposes correctly, i wish the one had my nikon`s matrix metering
John.
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I bought this Camera Zoom FX app for £0.50p on sale that i never used, i think it`s about time i tried it.
John.
Mine is the same way. Wasn't bashing the camera was just giving my first impression of the pic posted. I think the camera is excellent for a phone. Small sensor and tiny optics will only go so far. This device is fantastic as an overall package.
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The sensor is great for a phone camera, but the software that does the exposure is very very poor or am i missing something???
John.
You rack focus
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Why are all you guys saying this is normal? Either you have defective phones or you don't know how to take pictures! ... The only time my One does this is when I use touch to focus on Macro mode. I have taken hundreds of pictures and no pictures look like yours unless I wanted them to.
Agreed. The picture in the OP looks like an issue with OIS, not depth of field.
If it was a one time thing then this thread doesn't need to exist. If it happens a lot the phone needs to be replaced.
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Agreed. The picture in the OP looks like an issue with OIS, not depth of field.
If it was a one time thing then this thread doesn't need to exist. If it happens a lot the phone needs to be replaced.
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Well its not a repetitive condition but occurs once in a while. Even in videos.
Try camera fv-5 from playstore. DSLR style camera app with multiple metering modes.
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Why are all you guys saying this is normal? Either you have defective phones or you don't know how to take pictures! ... The only time my One does this is when I use touch to focus on Macro mode. I have taken hundreds of pictures and no pictures look like yours unless I wanted them to.
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I do think it's a flaw in the camera software that exposure and focus can't be decoupled. I LOVE the shallow depth of field but can't use it property because touching-to-focus blows out highlights.
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I mean it in a literal sense.
If you look at the image below, youll be able to see that its a bit blurry,
I've drawn 2 black lines in the image, notice that the top and the bottom is blurry and the center is focused.
It doesnt occur alot, but it does happen and sometimes even in videos.
Any help as to why? Perhaps 4.2.2 might fix this?
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Most of these comments come from people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Your phone is perfect. Nothing wrong with it. All you did was tap to focus on the middle of the picture.
This did 2 things.
1. It will FOCUS on the center of the pic. Other areas will be blurred. Hence the term, focus. That's how cameras work.
2. The exposure was adjusted to where you focused it to. What does that mean?
If you focused on a light area the camera will adjust the exposure to compensate. What that means is if it's light, the camera will darken the overall image. Lights become darker, farms become darker.
If the photo is focused on a dark area, the camera will adjust the photo by making the dark area brighter and the bright areas, as a result, brighter. Which is why you have super white skies.
To fix it, go to the camera settings and I think select touch to capture. But to say fix means it's a problem.
It's not.
For landscapes, use landscape mode which will focus on the entire image and bot blur. Also you can tap on the area where you want adjusted, ie brighter or darker. Blur again is only cause you focused. Don't focus on landscapes.
Photographer here. Focus on this comment and not anyone who says your phone is messed up. This is why.
Take a look at my two attached photos. One I clicked on the sky and the other I clicked on the grass. Light then dark. Can you figure out which was which and see what happened to the photo?
Note that it was overcast and cloudy. There were NO BLUE SKIES. it was grey. So the sky wasnt killed by the camera
Btw don't always use Hdr. Don't. Its not a saving grace every time. If you shoot in the sun you're shooting in the sun. Photography rule #1: DON'T.
ALWAYS USE THE SCENES WHEN YOU CAN. WHICH IS WHY THEYTE THERE AND EXIST. SLRS HAVE THEM TOO FKR A REASON!
As for the lines, panorama? Did you move too fast? That's what happens when you do - camera can't stitch properly
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Most of these comments come from people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Your phone is perfect. Nothing wrong with it. All you did was tap to focus on the middle of the picture.
This did 2 things.
1. It will FOCUS on the center of the pic. Other areas will be blurred. Hence the term, focus. That's how cameras work.
2. The exposure was adjusted to where you focused it to. What does that mean?
If you focused on a light area the camera will adjust the exposure to compensate. What that means is if it's light, the camera will darken the overall image. Lights become darker, farms become darker.
If the photo is focused on a dark area, the camera will adjust the photo by making the dark area brighter and the bright areas, as a result, brighter. Which is why you have super white skies.
To fix it, go to the camera settings and I think select touch to capture. But to say fix means it's a problem.
It's not.
For landscapes, use landscape mode which will focus on the entire image and bot blur. Also you can tap on the area where you want adjusted, ie brighter or darker. Blur again is only cause you focused. Don't focus on landscapes.
Photographer here. Focus on this comment and not anyone who says your phone is messed up. This is why.
Take a look at my two attached photos. One I clicked on the sky and the other I clicked on the grass. Light then dark. Can you figure out which was which and see what happened to the photo?
Note that it was overcast and cloudy. There were NO BLUE SKIES. it was grey. So the sky wasnt killed by the camera
Btw don't always use Hdr. Don't. Its not a saving grace every time. If you shoot in the sun you're shooting in the sun. Photography rule #1: DON'T.
ALWAYS USE THE SCENES WHEN YOU CAN. WHICH IS WHY THEYTE THERE AND EXIST. SLRS HAVE THEM TOO FKR A REASON!
As for the lines, panorama? Did you move too fast? That's what happens when you do - camera can't stitch properly
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The black lines on the image, I DREW to show where it gets blurred (not panaroma).
You're right, but when I focus on the center, all objects in the background should get blurred right? I mean thats how the focus works. You focus on a particular subject (lets assume in the foreground) the objects in background gets blurred.
If you see the image I uploaded (in the top line) the upper part of the tree is blurred and the lower part is focused.
It doesn't work like that right?

What on earth? this thing takes amazing photo's!

What on earth is everyone talking about?!?!
This thing takes AWESOME pics?!
I have not snapped ONE single disappointing picture so far.
How about some examples
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How about some examples
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Coming right up.
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Coming right up.
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here we go
Those are actually pretty nice pics. Almost any camera will take amazing near focus shots though.
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As far as photos go from this phone, they're very nice, but sadly, the purple hue is still highly visible in both shots (especially in the area of your cats ears)
I absolutely LOVE my Moto X, but the camera makes me sad. I hope for a fix in an upcoming firmware update.
P.S: Your cat is pretty
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As far as photos go from this phone, they're very nice, but sadly, the purple hue is still highly visible in both shots (especially in the area of your cats ears)
I absolutely LOVE my Moto X, but the camera makes me sad. I hope for a fix in an upcoming firmware update.
P.S: Your cat is pretty
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Thanks =) She's an F2 Savannah, Amazing animal.
I guess i'm easy to please? i don't look at small details with stuff like a purple hue, and etc.
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Thanks =) She's an F2 Savannah, Amazing animal.
I guess i'm easy to please? i don't look at small details with stuff like a purple hue, and etc.
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Sadly, it's one of the biggest problems this camera has. The problem is more evident in scenes with a lot of white objects or backgrounds.
Take the attached image as an example (yep, I brought Starbucks into a bar, lol)
Thankfully this is something that will likely be fixed in a firmware update.
No offense the first pic you posted is absolutely terrible. The colors are muted out and the entire thing is red.
Unless you're telling me you have red paper towels in your house.
as long as we're doing this. I know nothing about photography, i just thought these were decent pics
the third one i only put because somethign about the water and the way it caught the bird in flight so crisp i thought was amazing
This is with a quick auto correct of some colors and look at the difference. And it still looks like it's got a bit of a red tint.
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This is with a quick auto correct of some colors and look at the difference. And it still looks like it's got a bit of a red tint.
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What app did you use to do that?
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Nice pics! Just if phones have the ability to edit a photo like a Photoshop does..
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What app did you use to do that?
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Pixlr
no issues with the tint... I can fix that in 2 clicks. my problem is the "dry brush filter" look. You can't get those pixels back.
Youre all making laugh, I guess a benefit to being color blind is I don't notice the purple hue:sly:
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It's a phone that has a camera, I don't expect to shoot National Geographic on this thing, so for me the camera is just fine.
A trick that you can try to prevent some of the redness or out of balance colors (not the purple hue) is to cover the light sensor on the front off the phone with your finger and then find something white to aim at and rebalance the shot before taking the picture. The sensor is to the left of the earpiece. It seems to help a lot when taking pictures in rooms lit by yellower CFLs.
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Regarding all of the complaints of the Moto X's camera, are (some or all of) these things fixable by software/firmware updates or is it in the hardware? Anyone know? Details would be nice. Thanks.
ShamanicEnzan said:
It's a phone that has a camera, I don't expect to shoot National Geographic on this thing, so for me the camera is just fine.
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I think this is a pretty bad attitude. There are decent cameras in phones that cost just as much or less. There's no reason to make excuses, the camera can be bad, but don't write it off like it's not important or they couldn't include a decent sensor.

Redness camera

Sony, why?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OgN7fSbgxU
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/189f/cr44xqo6abt2wy3fg.jpg
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/8d86/6gc5rrrtr412h2dfg.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x899q50/538/PrHm5r.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x899q50/540/TKHy7h.jpg
May be just a defective model? Tried to replace it?
Sony loves color tint on its camera first purple then red
doctor_droid said:
May be just a defective model? Tried to replace it?
Sony loves color tint on its camera first purple then red
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This is not my tests. This defect in the software, it does not always correctly defines color balance
also
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHhz6rJxH0&list=UUYRkOO_tpXUtlrk4ojpZesA
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This is not my tests. This defect in the software, it does not always correctly defines color balance
also
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzHhz6rJxH0&list=UUYRkOO_tpXUtlrk4ojpZesA
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Cant see YouTube wid my college wifi....
Report it to sony mobile forum...they may have a look at it..
I wouldnt say a red tint...
Galaxy Alphas video colours are much warmer and Z3's is more neutral.
Pretty sure the colours can be tweaked.
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I wouldnt say a red tint...
Galaxy Alphas video colours are much warmer and Z3's is more neutral.
Pretty sure the colours can be tweaked.
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I wouldnt agree....redness is seen specially on the steel part of the pic...which should be silver greyish
King p1n said:
I wouldnt say a red tint...
Galaxy Alphas video colours are much warmer and Z3's is more neutral.
Pretty sure the colours can be tweaked.
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Look at the clouds and the wall of the house
I'm not seeing any problems either.
I dont see a problem either. you can choose the white balance and it'll look just like the galaxy alpha if thats what you like. maybe sony should default to that mode because its pleasing to the eye and would get more buyers.. exactly why samsung and apple do it.
also, what with people all uploading 4k recordings at 720p? thats kinda defeating the purpose a bit...
I think it appears only in the video
Photos is very good
Xperia z3 have the same problem
The video is really bad - colours are way off. It's nothing like as noticeable in the photos, with the exception of the ferris wheel. It's pretty obvious on that one.
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The video is really bad - colours are way off. It's nothing like as noticeable in the photos, with the exception of the ferris wheel. It's pretty obvious on that one.
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Last two pictures from video. It is not photo.
z3 videos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/white-balance-video-t2889760
same. good photos, but bad videos

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