[Galaxy K Zoom] Extended Battery - Galaxy Camera General

Hello Folks!!!!
I have ordered this item....i'm waiting for its arrival!!!!!!
http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6195359693.html
in the meanwhile, i found this second battery:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Lowest-Price-of-Samsung-Galaxy-K_1976591285.html
and finally, the king of battery manufacturers:
http://mugen.co/mugen-power-4400mah...-samsung-galaxy-k-zoom-with-battery-door.html
when available, i'll order the mugen battery!

I've tested the "2850mAh High Capacity Battery" in the first link.
my suggestion is: DO NOT buy this battery.
this battery will charge faster than the original one but will drain very fast...faster than original!
in about six hours i used 30-40% of the extended battery power....whereas i spent about 20% using original battery.
the quality did not satisfy me.
now i'm testing mugen 4400 battery...results in a few days!
cheers!

livio80 said:
I've tested the "2850mAh High Capacity Battery" in the first link.
my suggestion is: DO NOT buy this battery.
this battery will charge faster than the original one but will drain very fast...faster than original!
in about six hours i used 30-40% of the extended battery power....whereas i spent about 20% using original battery.
the quality did not satisfy me.
now i'm testing mugen 4400 battery...results in a few days!
cheers!
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Thanks for your advice. Very interested in the results of the experiment... the original one last for little few hours.
Some questions:
In Mugen page i cant see the weight of the 4000mAh battery. How much does it weights?
With the "new" cover, it seems that tje flash is a bit "covered". Does it flash correctly?
Thanks again!

airtemisa said:
Thanks for your advice. Very interested in the results of the experiment... the original one last for little few hours.
Some questions:
In Mugen page i cant see the weight of the 4000mAh battery. How much does it weights?
With the "new" cover, it seems that tje flash is a bit "covered". Does it flash correctly?
Thanks again!
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hi!
soon i'll write my review!
now i can say that i get 15 hours of heavy use with 50% of battery energy. i'll make the photos you ask, maybe tomorrow!!!!!!

Hello Folks!
I'm testing the 4400mah Mugen battery. for now, i'll show you some photos of the product:
total width: 2 centimeters
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followed by a small comparison between original and extended battery
and original and extended case!
The smartphone, with this extended battery, becomes almost flat but there is a small security space (there are two studs) that separe the table from the camera, when you put your phone horizontally! the glass of the camera will not touch the table surface.
studs
security space
shortly i'll post the weight of the product!
i can confirm it can flash correctly!

as a last step (and detached post), i will show some photos of the 2850mah Aliexpress battery i bought....currently i'm disappointed with this.

Can u use case
Hi, HAVE U USED ANY CASE ESP AUTO POP CASE WITH MUGEN 4400 BATTERY
livio80 said:
as a last step (and detached post), i will show some photos of the 2850mah Aliexpress battery i bought....currently i'm disappointed with this.
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Hi!
i can add some words about 4400 Mugen battery life.
i'll add some screenshot of my KZoom. i made two kind of test: medium use (so a type of normal-medium stress) and heavy use (hard stress for smartphone).
MEDIUM USE
in the medium test i use my telephone like this:
in backgroung Whatsapp, Telegram, Viber, Skype, Cerberus
gps always active
wifi always active
data always active
2 or 3 photos
a few minutes of internet browsing
a few minutes of calls (audio calls, not video calls)
a few minutes of Google Maps
HEAVY USE
in the heavy test i use my telephone like this:
in backgroung Whatsapp, Telegram, Viber, Skype, Cerberus
gps always active
wifi always active
data always active
10-15 photos
about 15-20 minutes of internet browsing
about 20-30 minutes of calls (audio calls, not video calls)
a few minutes (maybe 5 minutes) of Google Maps
some update made by Google play or Samsung market on wifi
Today i made a further test: using smartphone as a camera.
in this use:
in backgroung Whatsapp, Telegram, Viber, Skype, Cerberus
gps always active
wifi always active
data always active
about 40 photos (made in about 4 hours); these are the results!
these are two photos, like an example:

Hi, Livio, Thanks for ur review,
Is the MUGEN COVER RUGGED/STRONG?
Which case do u use with MUGEN battery.
Does auto pop case fit?
Did u try to fit it with no back cover?

garlnt said:
Hi, Livio, Thanks for ur review,
Is the MUGEN COVER RUGGED/STRONG?
Which case do u use with MUGEN battery.
Does auto pop case fit?
Did u try to fit it with no back cover?
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Hi!
i tested these covers!
i bought them when i was on "stock" battery. None of them will fit the Mugen battery, even if strong forced.
No way, even with no Mugen cover!
i can add that according to my opinion, using a case with this battery will make the smartphone too much wide and large.

Thanks
livio80 said:
Hi!
i tested these covers!
i bought them when i was on "stock" battery. None of them will fit the Mugen battery, even if strong forced.
No way, even with no Mugen cover!
i can add that according to my opinion, using a case with this battery will make the smartphone too much wide and large.
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livio80 said:
I've tested the "2850mAh High Capacity Battery" in the first link.
my suggestion is: DO NOT buy this battery.
this battery will charge faster than the original one but will drain very fast...faster than original!
in about six hours i used 30-40% of the extended battery power....whereas i spent about 20% using original battery.
the quality did not satisfy me.
now i'm testing mugen 4400 battery...results in a few days!
cheers!
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The mugen is interesting, its weight will probably mean as heavy as with autopop but was it not possible to find an original spare battery to use ?
or do you find battery life of original just too short to live with.

livio80 said:
as a last step (and detached post), i will show some photos of the 2850mah Aliexpress battery i bought....currently i'm disappointed with this.
I can only share the same experience - these batteries does NOT perform up to specified mAh !! at best it is slightly under the stoch batt !!
-ALSO-
NFC does not work with 2850mAh batteries !?!?? I don't know why ??
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rugholm said:
livio80 said:
as a last step (and detached post), i will show some photos of the 2850mah Aliexpress battery i bought....currently i'm disappointed with this.
I can only share the same experience - these batteries does NOT perform up to specified mAh !! at best it is slightly under the stoch batt !!
-ALSO-
NFC does not work with 2850mAh batteries !?!?? I don't know why ??
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NFC chipset is located in the battery
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Livio, fantastico review.
I have the official Samsung spare battery and portable charger.
I got almost the same capacity, but I still must carry them on a pocket, bag, etc.
The Mugen is a good option to increase the battery capacity in a single package.

Related

eBay - 2x Batteries $13 shipped.

Found this deal while searching for a deal on batteries for the Fuze. Haven't bought them, usually skeptical about eBay items, especially from China. Figured I'd post a thread with it so if anyone would like to purchase at a low price. States that they're both 1340mAh. If they both work as expected it'd be a great price, but again still skeptical about buying from a Chinese eBayer.
Link to item:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-2x-for-...photoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262
eBay Seller name: otakugarden
I'm a sucker for a good deal, I took the bait. If/when I get them in I'll report back.
The only deal with that ebay seller for the same thing was for 18.88 total, which is still dirt cheap. So, I took the bait as well. Will report back if no one else does, or if I have a conflicting opinion.
it seems to me fake... i mean it's too cheap
I bought this back in early November, except then it was 2 batteries plus a standalone charger for about $20. They've all worked very well to date.
Blah I took the bait! Toooo cheap not too hmhmh
Kewlj1313
I bought one!
Hope they actually send me two working batteries and it's not some deceptive ad.
I saw this sellers offers on Ebay. I didn't pull the trigger as the last battery I purchased on ebay for my Tilt was a complete rip-off. As they say "if it's too good to be true, then it probably is".
Please let us know your experiences with this seller/batteries.
let me know how this goes, my battery already seems to lose juice quickly
I bit too, hopefully it's not bad.
I also bought the 2 batteries and charger for $20 like Lulugirl. All seem to work well. My only problem is that my Touch Pro doesn't recognise the battery level in the new batteries. So when I put in one of the new batteries, the battery meter on my device shows 0% battery. It still works though. I just use it until the phone turns itself off because of a low battery. Seems to last about as long as the stock OEM battery, but I'd of course prefer to have a warning as to how much battery life I have left.
Lolugirl (or anyone else), have you had this problem? If so, were you able to fix it?
All in all though, they were cheap enough that I am still happy with my purchase, especially since my usage drains the battery in less than a day.
juttonn said:
I also bought the 2 batteries and charger for $20 like Lulugirl. All seem to work well. My only problem is that my Touch Pro doesn't recognise the battery level in the new batteries. So when I put in one of the new batteries, the battery meter on my device shows 0% battery. It still works though. I just use it until the phone turns itself off because of a low battery. Seems to last about as long as the stock OEM battery, but I'd of course prefer to have a warning as to how much battery life I have left.
Lolugirl (or anyone else), have you had this problem? If so, were you able to fix it?
All in all though, they were cheap enough that I am still happy with my purchase, especially since my usage drains the battery in less than a day.
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That's proof that these batteries are fake.
I got the batteries after 2 weeks finally! They both have the same serial number and part number. But the serial and part numbers are different from the factory battery.
I noticed sticker on the battery is less clear than the factory battery I originally had. I will try it out later on my Fuze when I have the time.
I bought the same battery package as lulugirl896 (two generic batteries + standalone charger). They work fine, no problems whatsoever. The reason these batteries are cheap is because they are not OEM (HTC) batteries, but generic no-brand batteries. Since the labels are just copied, the serial numbers on all of these batteries are identical (13XA188P003454).
They are working fine in the original UK Touch Pro and Fuze (pretty much the same capacity as the OEM battery). However people who have CDMA Raphaels (Sprint/Verizon) have been having problems like juttonn described (always shows 0%, or "Battery not recognized").
The battery power seems jumpy. It was at 97% before I shut the power off for the night, then when I turned it on in the morning it was down to around 60%? I ran it for 8 hours on airline mode (the screen was on though), now it's down to 34%. I'll try it for another few days and report back.
Agent Blair said:
I got the batteries after 2 weeks finally! They both have the same serial number and part number. But the serial and part numbers are different from the factory battery.
I noticed sticker on the battery is less clear than the factory battery I originally had. I will try it out later on my Fuze when I have the time.
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Same here! just got mine yesterday, definitely a fake less clear label with the same serial number hmhm! Haven't tried mine yet either, maybe tonight hopefully they don't kersplode or anything!
JFlitt
Initial tests seem good!
When I first put this battery in straight out of the package it showed up in TBattery as FULL(mAh): 900, but after letting it charge once and then run all the way down and now as you can see from this screen shot it has charged back up again, it is showing the full 1340 mAh so thats good!
This battery lasted all day yesterday in my phone! I am very satisfied, but as stated above it is obviously a fake, the HTC label is a bit blurry and the serial is the same on both batts, but oh well! seems to work well!
Screenshot of new cheap battery:
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Glad to know! But the percentage I see is wrong most of the time. So I just switch batteries every day. My charger has a light to determine if the battery is fully charged or not.
Can anyone confirm that Tbattery fixes the problem with the fake battery? I am am a bit afraid of trying it out since I haven't even hard-spl my device yet and I know it's not an ordinary program.
mine arrived last week and have used both through 3 power cycles and they appear to do drain much quicker than my oem battery. Where do you get TBattery to test? Google doesn't seem to come up with anything.
nevermind: found it. mine says 1340mAh but these batteries definitely drain faster than the OEM. Hopefully after a few more powercycles they will begin to last a little longer. If not, they were still worth the ridiculously low price.
jpeel said:
mine arrived last week and have used both through 3 power cycles and they appear to do drain much quicker than my oem battery. Where do you get TBattery to test? Google doesn't seem to come up with anything.
nevermind: found it. mine says 1340mAh but these batteries definitely drain faster than the OEM. Hopefully after a few more powercycles they will begin to last a little longer. If not, they were still worth the ridiculously low price.
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I noticed after the 2nd and 3rd cycle the battery indicator is more accurate now and not jumping around. I also noticed the same, where they do drain faster than the stock OEM battery.

Samsung i9000 Galaxy S ~ Battery Type

Guys,
I've been following the Galaxy S forum over at hardwarezone.com and one topic that's struck up is to do with the type of battery the Asian guys are finding in their phones.
The Asian release seems to have the G7 Battery, whereas the one that GSMArena reviewed and gave a high 7hrs 25mins video time was a G9.
It will be interesting to hear what type will be shipped to the rest of the world.
As and when you get your phone can you please post the battery info.
Here's a pic of the one from GSMArena
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Guys,
I've been following the Galaxy S forum over at hardwarezone.com and one topic that's struck up is to do with the type of battery the Asian guys are finding in their phones.
The Asian release seems to have the G7 Battery, whereas the one that GSMArena reviewed and gave a high 7hrs 25mins video time was a G9.
It will be interesting to hear what type will be shipped to the rest of the world.
As and when you get your phone can you please post the battery info.
Here's a pic of the one from GSMArena
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Thanks Beard for opening a thread. In regards to the battery, below is the information printed on the battery.
EB575152VU
1500mAh
5.55Wh (printed next to the 1500mAh)
S/N: AA1Z512oS/5-B
生产日期 (Meaning Date of manufacture) 2010-05-12
G7
The position of the above is similar to the above image, except with the additional 5.55Wh printed on.
Regarding the battery life, a number of us do experience short battery life. However this is very subjective, for the reasons that each one perception of short or long is difference, and each one's personal usage pattern is different. But one thing I am pretty certain, whatever GSMArena had tested, we here will not be able to replicate the same results.
Therefore, I will be very interested to know how the rest of the countries, US, Europe, or even the Middle East will have in the battery.
I hope users could share their information over here.
Many thanks g00ndu. Again appreciated.
I also left you a 'Thanks' in the AndroidForum.
But one thing I am pretty certain, whatever GSMArena had tested, we here will not be able to replicate the same results.
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Check this site, all the way at the bottom.
hardwarezone.com/product-guide/view/20283/review/43433/page:4
De GS does 418 minutes (=7 hours) in that test. With the following settings:
In our customary battery life test, we play back in a continuous loop a test video encoded at 240 x 320 resolution under the following conditions: 100% screen brightness and volume and Wi-Fi and Bluetooth active, with push email or data being pulled from the network at regular intervals.
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So thats the second source stating that de battery life is good. Those bad comments from singapore are all from new batteries, they need to be charged about 5 times to reach their full capacity.
mbr01 said:
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So thats the second source stating that de battery life is good. Those bad comments from singapore are all from new batteries, they need to be charged about 5 times to reach their full capacity.
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Perhaps so, what was played is a 240x320 video. I wonder if we can maintain the same length of time if a HD video is played.
Besides, usage for each one varies, and still there is a subjectivity in the test. The tendency of playing with a new phone (especially I'm a noob in android phone) will be a lot more. I'm still keeping my finger crossed here, though. Haha, worst case scenario, I can always get a backup battery, unlike some fruity phones I know.
Please do share the information whoever has the phone.
It's just a placebo effect. There's no difference.
hmmmm.. battery ohh battery.. why are you so.. hehehe
in reality the battery life of Galaxy S is not so great.
wish samsung or 3rd party will produce or manufacture high capacity battery for the phone.. hmmmm.. like seidio (innocell) for example.
m3keni said:
in reality the battery life of Galaxy S is not so great.
wish samsung or 3rd party will produce or manufacture high capacity battery for the phone.. hmmmm.. like seidio (innocell) for example.
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Waiting on that too hehe.
mine is G7, received from UK Handtec
Archius said:
Waiting on that too hehe.
mine is G7, received from UK Handtec
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yup yup.. hopefully in the near future.
have you tried draining your battery then charge it fully 5 times.. not in one go.. read information online where they say that you need to charge it 5 times to fully get the battery working at 100% capacity.
Yes, I'm not sure how GSMArena got hold ogf that G9 battery.
Mine too is a G7.
Mine is G7 and ordered from the UK.
Mine is g7 as well.
G7 too, from Handtec. I have found that over several months of using my HD2, about the same average usage, the battery life does seem to have improved. So I'm expecting better results from this one over time.
Here (The Netherlands) also G7
First: Whats the difference between "G7" and "G9"?
Second: I don't understand the problem. (Referring to the initial post: "The Asian release seems to have the G7 Battery, whereas the one that GSMArena reviewed and gave a high 7hrs 25mins video time was a G9.")
gsmarena test:
we charged the Galaxy S until it said full and looped a standard definition XviD video with the screen brightness set to 50% until the battery level fell to 10% (beyond that point the handset automatically turns off the video player and doesn’t allow restarting it)
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hardwarezone test:
we play back in a continuous loop a test video encoded at 240 x 320 resolution under the following conditions: 100% screen brightness and volume and Wi-Fi and Bluetooth active, with push email or data being pulled from the network at regular intervals.
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Different testing conditions, different results...
I claim that even the content of the video itself will play a significant role. AMOLED uses less power for darker scenes and most for very bright scenes. So it's something different if I play a horror movie or a comedy.
All in all: Is there a real difference between G7 and G9 or did you just claim it cause of the different results?
Anything special about the "G8" battery version? Found it here (it's number 67 in the list):
http://english.gmarket.co.kr/challe...der=samsung+galaxy+S+samsung+galaxy+S+battery
Straputsky said:
First: Whats the difference between "G7" and "G9"?
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No idea, that's why I asked what batteries others were getting so that we could then ascertain the differences.
Second: I don't understand the problem. (Referring to the initial post: "The Asian release seems to have the G7 Battery, whereas the one that GSMArena reviewed and gave a high 7hrs 25mins video time was a G9.")
gsmarena test:
hardwarezone test:
Different testing conditions, different results...
I claim that even the content of the video itself will play a significant role. AMOLED uses less power for darker scenes and most for very bright scenes. So it's something different if I play a horror movie or a comedy.
All in all: Is there a real difference between G7 and G9 or did you just claim it cause of the different results?
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I was not suggesting there was a problem and I'm not that bothered myself about these test either.
All I want to try and achieve is:-
a) Are there two batteries (G7 & G9)
b) If there are indeed two batteries, is there any differences in both performance and hot running.
@beards
I agree
My battery is also a G7, and my phone was bought in Scandinavia.
my Vodafone UK 16gb GS came with a G7, it doesn't last a full day
**update**
After charging for around a week, it now lasts a lot longer, i can get a full day of normal use ie. a few phone calls a few texts, browsing the internet for around 30 mins and some application use.

FYI: EVO 4G Battery fits!

I noticed today when my firend had his EVO 4G apart that the battery was almost the same size. I test fit it into my Dinc and IT FITS. The EVO battery is about 2mm thicker but the stock Dinc back case still snaps on the back (although tighter than with the stock battery).
Dinc capacity 1300mah, EVO 1500mah.
So for anybody that wants to squeeze a little more juice out of their phone while still being compact skinny this is the perfect solution!
HTC HD2 battery also fits and it's 1500mah as well...I think it's just an HTC OEM.
And the, now old, TP2 battery (which is also 1500mah, got it for like $15 online), and the Eris battery (same size though).
This is nice to hear, as I run down my Inc's battery very quickly every day. Although I think seeing a battery that was NOT bright red in my phone would be strange now lol. Is the Evo's battery red too? I know the TP2's is not.
EVO Battery
You can get 2 EVO batteries and a ext charger on ebay for 10 bucks.
I have ordered one. I will post back with results.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-1500mAh-batt...Accessories&hash=item3a5b690056#ht_2016wt_955
Looks nice! Especially the dock charger. I would love to not ever have to plug in my phone and be able to just swap batteries with the dock charger.
Please let us know how it all turns out including how well the dock charger handles the charging (especially when you leave the battery on the charger for longer than needed.)
Sent from my Droid Incredible using XDA app!
nixon7606 said:
You can get 2 EVO batteries and a ext charger on ebay for 10 bucks.
I have ordered one. I will post back with results.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-1500mAh-batt...Accessories&hash=item3a5b690056#ht_2016wt_955
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Be careful with those knock off batteries...
nixon7606 said:
You can get 2 EVO batteries and a ext charger on ebay for 10 bucks.
I have ordered one. I will post back with results.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-1500mAh-batt...Accessories&hash=item3a5b690056#ht_2016wt_955
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hong kong knockoffs, nuff said.
llaufhutte said:
This is nice to hear, as I run down my Inc's battery very quickly every day. Although I think seeing a battery that was NOT bright red in my phone would be strange now lol. Is the Evo's battery red too? I know the TP2's is not.
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Yup the EVO 4G battery is the same bright red as ours so it matches too
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This is REALLY good to know! Thank You!
m52power said:
Yup the EVO 4G battery is the same bright red as ours so it matches too
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Excellent I may be buying an EVO battery or two. I could really use the extra juice and the extended life batteries make the phone feel way too big.
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If you are going to order a battery why not just get the Seidio 1750 mAh battery? Same size as stock, bigger capacity. I wouldn't say it is life changing, but it definitely helps get me through the day.
http://store.androidcentral.com/seidio-innocell-1750mah-extended-battery/8A37A6399.htm
fastandlight said:
If you are going to order a battery why not just get the Seidio 1750 mAh battery? Same size as stock, bigger capacity. I wouldn't say it is life changing, but it definitely helps get me through the day.
http://store.androidcentral.com/seidio-innocell-1750mah-extended-battery/8A37A6399.htm
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The Seidio 1750mAh battery has been tested several times to actually be a 1500mAh battery... I'd stick with OEM over third party.
Its Nice
i saw this post last week.. and ordered an Evo battery for $20 from Amazon. It fits,, i am not going to say it fits perfectly.. but i use a skin i use to protect my incredible so.. it doesnt make any difference for me.. i did a full charge.. and i definitely got 2 hours more with heavy use.. and i think its similar or better than the 1750mah battery...
I've been using an EVO 1500 battery as well as the Seidio 1750 battery, and I can honestly say that I get much better battery with the Seidio 1750 battery. I know that the tests (or test, batteryboss only really tested one battery) out there say it's not as good as what a 1750 mAh battery is supposed to be, but I know that I've gotten better battery life out of it than both the stock 1300 and the EVO 1500. It's also a smidgen smaller than the EVO 1500, so it fits a little bit better in the phone.
Berzerker7 said:
I've been using an EVO 1500 battery as well as the Seidio 1750 battery, and I can honestly say that I get much better battery with the Seidio 1750 battery. I know that the tests (or test, batteryboss only really tested one battery) out there say it's not as good as what a 1750 mAh battery is supposed to be, but I know that I've gotten better battery life out of it than both the stock 1300 and the EVO 1500. It's also a smidgen smaller than the EVO 1500, so it fits a little bit better in the phone.
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Battery boss isnt the only one who tested it. There was someone over on androidforums who tested the batteries out and the 1750 actually came out to less the the 1500s. The 1500s on the other hand (oem ones) actually were all pretty consistent.
I personally wouldnt pay the extra money to get what may "seem" like slightly better battery life. My $10 1500 serves me fine.
Dont take this as a criticism though, if you feel youre getting more on the 1750 then the 1500 then more power to you. I just wanted to put this information out there.
Does using an EVO battery or HD2,etc affect the Droid Incredible negatively in any way? i.e. differences in voltage, or some other feature that comes from using batteries not made for the phone? Or is it pretty much a one-size-fits-all deal where as long as the battery fits physically it doesn't matter. (i.e. will using a different battery void any warranties?)
Thanks!
I bought knock off batteries from China and loved them but the temperatures reported wrong
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FWIW, I purchased a charger that looks identical to this one (from CellphoneShop.net http://www.cellphoneshop.net/pro2desktop.html) and it works great! The light strip across the top goes from red to blue once it is fully charged. I have the stock battery plus a 2150Ma, so I just switch them out when I go to bed and the 2150 is ready to go in the morning when I leave for work. Another bonus to this type of charger is that it doesn't stress your USB port. I've had a few phones that I had to return because the port stopped charging/got loose and you had to fiddle with it. I for one like to leave the port for fun stuff like ADB or copying new ROMs to flash!
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[Q] extended battery

Hi
i've just received an extended battery (cheap non htc) from ebay for my HD2. But since I placed my order I've heard that some nand roms don't work correctly with this type of battery.
Anybody know what type of problem I might run into with an extended battery, which roms definately don't work with an extended battery and if there are any fixes for the roms that don't work with one?
The only non-working batteries with Android are the HTC original 2300 ones.
Every other battery works fine with NAND.
And I got one of those expensive HTC things....
The only non-working batteries with Android are the HTC original 2300 ones.
Every other battery works fine with NAND.
And I got one of those expensive HTC things....
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Phew! I very nearly bought one, glad i didn't. Saved myself £30 and a whole load of trouble in that case!
die_braut said:
The only non-working batteries with Android are the HTC original 2300 ones.
Every other battery works fine with NAND.
And I got one of those expensive HTC things....
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Confirming this is true for the OP as I do use the 2400mA from Ebay (got it for $13) on NAND, also used it with all SD builds, Non-EB and EB based.
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Confirming this is true for the OP as I do use the 2400mA from Ebay (got it for $13) on NAND, also used it with all SD builds, Non-EB and EB based.
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Really? Wow, so you dont notice any issues with overheating when charging or not being able to charge to 100% in the phone?
What sort of battery life do you get? Should be like 35-40hrs right?
I have an ebay 2600mah that I got for $13 which seems awesome but I've only run it in the phone for a short period so far. It even has the back cover with a kickstand. I had to wait a month for it to get here from Singapore and it just got here yesterday.
I've switched to NAND ROMs now but at one point I had an SD build that I was getting 20+hrs battery life out of. I havent really had he chance to fully evaluate the battery life with my NAND builds but so far it looks to be not as good....
I just bought one..ships from Hong Kong..prolly have to wait ~ 3 wks for it arrive.
ive been looking into buying an extended battery recently.
im running android 2.2 nand.
so i wont have any problems with any extended battery?
2400mah? 2600mah?
The word out there is that aftermarket extended batteries - like the 2400mAh work well with NAND. I forked out $10.00 USD, what the hey..they've all gotten decent reviews, and work with NAND.
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Really? Wow, so you dont notice any issues with overheating when charging or not being able to charge to 100% in the phone?
What sort of battery life do you get? Should be like 35-40hrs right?
I have an ebay 2600mah that I got for $13 which seems awesome but I've only run it in the phone for a short period so far. It even has the back cover with a kickstand. I had to wait a month for it to get here from Singapore and it just got here yesterday.
I've switched to NAND ROMs now but at one point I had an SD build that I was getting 20+hrs battery life out of. I havent really had he chance to fully evaluate the battery life with my NAND builds but so far it looks to be not as good....
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60% better than the stock is what I get, depending on how I use it, I CAN go 2 days easily.
I don't have any heat issues, it gets warm but nothing that seems different than with the stock.
I got the same as you, just 2400mA, comes with the cover and the kickstand, the cover is cheap plastic and pops off easy, it's not a durable and nice as the stock back and the kickstand broke after like 3 uses but oh well, a $13 battery with 60%+ battery life is fine with me.
Keep in mind, when you get your EB, it WILL drain from 100% to 0% and turn off (same as the stock battery) however, when it dies you just take the battery out and put it back in then reboot and it'll have ~60-65% remaining.
In my opinion, NAND and SD have the same battery life, NAND ahead a little bit because it doesn't spike as frequently.
eyeisdasteve said:
ive been looking into buying an extended battery recently.
im running android 2.2 nand.
so i wont have any problems with any extended battery?
2400mah? 2600mah?
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Read above, UNOFFICIAL batteries like Ebay work fine, OFFICIAL (HTC) batteries require an Extended Battery Kernel
Mik0 said:
The word out there is that aftermarket extended batteries - like the 2400mAh work well with NAND. I forked out $10.00 USD, what the hey..they've all gotten decent reviews, and work with NAND.
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Well worth the money =P
--- All of this is based off of hands-on experience, I use the 2400mA Ebay Battery with the cover and kickstand and have been since Late September.
Yeah I bought the cheap one with the kickstand, only took 11 days to reach the UK from hong kong.
No issues so far other than it seemed to drain really quickly from 100% to 79% in about 2 hours with no usage, its been okay from 79% though, dunno if it needed a long 1st charge.
I got the same issues with the HTC extended battery.
Charging / usage is reported wring by NAND kernels, worked OK tho with Hastarin's kernel. On MDJ's kernel it will even shut down at boot-up.
With SD builds when I plug in the phone it shows up as charging extremely fast then after unplugging charge falls also extremely fast to about 70-60% and then drains normally.
Offering as tester if anyone has any idea or beta NAND kernel that might fix this.
By the way in WinMo it charges perfectly and drainage is excellent/normal as advertised, so it's not a battery issue but a kernel support issue.
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60% better than the stock is what I get, depending on how I use it, I CAN go 2 days easily.
I don't have any heat issues, it gets warm but nothing that seems different than with the stock.
I got the same as you, just 2400mA, comes with the cover and the kickstand, the cover is cheap plastic and pops off easy, it's not a durable and nice as the stock back and the kickstand broke after like 3 uses but oh well, a $13 battery with 60%+ battery life is fine with me.
Keep in mind, when you get your EB, it WILL drain from 100% to 0% and turn off (same as the stock battery) however, when it dies you just take the battery out and put it back in then reboot and it'll have ~60-65% remaining.
In my opinion, NAND and SD have the same battery life, NAND ahead a little bit because it doesn't spike as frequently.
Read above, UNOFFICIAL batteries like Ebay work fine, OFFICIAL (HTC) batteries require an Extended Battery Kernel
Well worth the money =P
--- All of this is based off of hands-on experience, I use the 2400mA Ebay Battery with the cover and kickstand and have been since Late September.
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Hey, thanks very much for your reply. It is much appreciated.
I'm using the EB now. The back door for it seems lightweight but I cut a hole in the back of a protective case I have for my phone and the whole thing now feels pretty solid.
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Just wanted to report back. I have the $13 Singapore 2600 mah battery and it works with MDJ Cyanogenmod 7 v2.6.
I dont even have to remove and replace the battery for it to work. It's not perfect though, it basically runs down normally (slightly faster than I would like) and lasts a full day getting down to a 15% charge. Then it stays at 15% for another entire day and then discharges normally from there.
With all the progress that has been made on Android for HD2, I feel optimistic that the last several minor bugs will eventually be worked out and the device should function flawlessly.
I dont even have to remove and replace the battery for it to work. It's not perfect though, it basically runs down normally (slightly faster than I would like) and lasts a full day getting down to a 15% charge. Then it stays at 15% for another entire day and then discharges normally from there.
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Yeah I get exactly the same with the cheap EB, dont need to remove the battery but it runs down fairly quickly to 15% then stays at 15% for ages. I have tried a variety of roms both nand & CWM, they all give similar results. Obiously the battery isn't running down very quickly at all, rather it's the way its level is being reported by the OS.

Replacing the battery on the Axon 7

Anyone know where i can get the battery replaced on the Axon 7 in the UK? My battery drains too quickly and does not last a day. Ive looked at the videos on Youtube and it looks tricky to replace the battery. I love my Axon 7 especially the front facing speakers.
I replaced mine a few days ago. It's one of the easiest battery replacements I've ever done. It's very easy. Just make sure you have the proper tools
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karl100100 said:
Anyone know where i can get the battery replaced on the Axon 7 in the UK? My battery drains too quickly and does not last a day. Ive looked at the videos on Youtube and it looks tricky to replace the battery. I love my Axon 7 especially the front facing speakers.
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If you look up in Amazon as I can not post the link:
"Cameron Sino 3100mAh Li-Polymer Replacement Battery for ZTE Axon 7"
Just be careful when disconnecting the ribbons and carefully removing the battery from the screen as mine took a lot of finesse and some heat to pry it loose. I now have a great battery but now have no home and back button after attempting to repair many times. Luckily there is an app you can use to at least make my phone usable again.
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If you look up in Amazon as I can not post the link:
"Cameron Sino 3100mAh Li-Polymer Replacement Battery for ZTE Axon 7"
Just be careful when disconnecting the ribbons and carefully removing the battery from the screen as mine took a lot of finesse and some heat to pry it loose. I now have a great battery but now have no home and back button after attempting to repair many times. Luckily there is an app you can use to at least make my phone usable again.
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how did you break those? The ribbon for the buttons is on the other side of the frame... are you sure your screen ribbon is well connected?
Have you tried pushing on the screen roughly where the volume buttons are located, to see if it gets reseated? It's weird that the screen works but it might be just that
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how did you break those? The ribbon for the buttons is on the other side of the frame... are you sure your screen ribbon is well connected?
Have you tried pushing on the screen roughly where the volume buttons are located, to see if it gets reseated? It's weird that the screen works but it might be just that
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I took the phone apart 4 times ensuring the ribbons were well connected hoping that may have been the culprit. Also took the battery out each time, applied pressure all around the screen which makes me think I might have shorted out something. Strange though the right button still works, just the home and back button not functioning.
And this, folks, is exactly why you shouldn't be dissasembling phones unless you're very skilled with with electronics repair. You forget to connect a cable or w/e, then post here with complaints. I'm not physically well coordinated, my hands lack the fine motor skills and dexterity to work with small parts. If I have electronics hardware I need worked on, I take them to a friend's shop and he does the work for a small fee. I get everything back knowing the job is done right.
Hi Karl,
I have pretty basic electronic skills, and I found the battery replacement pretty easy.
There are plenty of guides on youtube, and as long as you have a decent toolkit--spudger, flat metal pry tool, correct sized bits--it should be an easy thing to do.
One step to watch out for is at the beginning; you need a hair dryer/heat gun to loosen the plastic bezels at the top/bottom of the front face. Be careful applying too much heat. My top bezel has a small bend divot from where it got too soft and bent when I removed it.
Just go slow and take your time; I think my take apart and reassembly was just over 30 minutes.
Good luck!
Are you sure that the battery is really the reason?
When I switched to the last LOS 15.1 ROM a few month ago, I noticed a rapid decrease of battery time.
And also the latest version of the imgur-app drains the battery extremely - if active, the battery only lasts for about 4 hours.
(I constantly force-quit it to get over half a day)
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Are you sure that the battery is really the reason?
When I switched to the last LOS 15.1 ROM a few month ago, I noticed a rapid decrease of battery time.
And also the latest version of the imgur-app drains the battery extremely - if active, the battery only lasts for about 4 hours.
(I constantly force-quit it to get over half a day)
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same here,and more users report it.Its not the issue from battery hardware
seliqui said:
Are you sure that the battery is really the reason?
When I switched to the last LOS 15.1 ROM a few month ago, I noticed a rapid decrease of battery time.
And also the latest version of the imgur-app drains the battery extremely - if active, the battery only lasts for about 4 hours.
(I constantly force-quit it to get over half a day)
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that's the kernel, it's probably not too optimized - but it's not necessarily the only reason! If you set up a decent ROM with a good kernel like one of Kran's EAS kernels and still get bad battery life, then you can bet it's the battery (you still don't need to - run Accubattery, let it log for about 3 days, then check the capacity estimate).
I honestly don't know or care about the persist stuff because I've gone through roughly the same ROMs than these guys here and have no such trouble. But I won't deny it
Btw if you get a fast discharge of a couple % after disconnecting the phone or your phone shuts down unexpectedly at 10/20/30%, those are telltale signs of battery degradation.
Introducing too many variables can confuse the issue.
I've been on the same rom since 9/2017 - RR 14.x based. I used to go 2 days between charges, now it's 1 day. Usage hasn't change all that much. I have a battery on order. I'd also like to update to 15.1. Goal is not to do any upgrading until at least a week or two after installing the new battery. Otherwise, existing SoT and battery usage numbers will have little value.
Of course, it's a good idea to perform a backup (twrp/titaniuam) for anyone replacing the battery just in case something goes wrong along the way and your phone turns into a brick.
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that's the kernel, it's probably not too optimized - but it's not necessarily the only reason! If you set up a decent ROM with a good kernel like one of Kran's EAS kernels and still get bad battery life, then you can bet it's the battery (you still don't need to - run Accubattery, let it log for about 3 days, then check the capacity estimate).
I honestly don't know or care about the persist stuff because I've gone through roughly the same ROMs than these guys here and have no such trouble. But I won't deny it
Btw if you get a fast discharge of a couple % after disconnecting the phone or your phone shuts down unexpectedly at 10/20/30%, those are telltale signs of battery degradation.
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Latest LOS 15.1 Unofficial fix this for me. Maybe dev make better the kernel now.
Hello,
Speaker grills can be bought on Ali... easily so no problem at all for battery replacement BTW. you can buy original ZTE battery on Ali too.
nays_pl said:
Hello,
Speaker grills can be bought on Ali... easily so no problem at all for battery replacement BTW. you can buy original ZTE battery on Ali too.
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You think there's much difference between an oem and third party battery? I'm only two charges in on the cameron sino, but still showing about 2700 mAh with accubattery. Tempted to get one of those usb amp meters to see what it's really taking in.
So far 3 full charges (1-2% to 100%). Accubattery still showing ~2650-2700 mAh capacity.
Actual use seems to be restored. Note the pic below.
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Hello,
Speaker grills can be bought on Ali... easily so no problem at all for battery replacement BTW. you can buy original ZTE battery on Ali too.
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point is, there is pretty much no way to know whether the battery you are buying is original or not. many bought the original looking ones and they have the font slightly off, knockoff-like... Which doesn't matter anyways because they perform just as good (or bad?) as a new OEM battery.
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So far 3 full charges (1-2% to 100%). Accubattery still showing ~2650-2700 mAh capacity.
Actual use seems to be restored. Note the pic below.
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well, you could claim a bad battery if that's the case. 2700 mAh is just dead
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well, you could claim a bad battery if that's the case. 2700 mAh is just dead
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Past use wasn't quite the same. I'd typically recharge around 40% (to 100%). Getting to 40% would take less than a day. So there's definitely more life to it. Going 2 days between charges would be satisfactory.
I'll give it another full cycle to see how it's doing. Not sure another battery would make a significant difference. Seller might offer an exchange but is it really worth the hassle.........
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Past use wasn't quite the same. I'd typically recharge around 40% (to 100%). Getting to 40% would take less than a day. So there's definitely more life to it. Going 2 days between charges would be satisfactory.
I'll give it another full cycle to see how it's doing. Not sure another battery would make a significant difference. Seller might offer an exchange but is it really worth the hassle.........
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you don't get it entirely. If that battery really has 2700 mAh, its capacity is about to fall off a cliff, and your phone will start having early shutdowns whenever you give it any load. that's pretty much how it works with lithium, it is advised to change the battery when it is at 80% capacity since it'll start behaving like crap in no time
Our batteries probably have a newer/better chemistry than those on the picture (they are charged at 4.4V), but the concept is the same.
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you don't get it entirely. If that battery really has 2700 mAh, its capacity is about to fall off a cliff, and your phone will start having early shutdowns whenever you give it any load. that's pretty much how it works with lithium, it is advised to change the battery when it is at 80% capacity since it'll start behaving like crap in no time
Our batteries probably have a newer/better chemistry than those on the picture (they are charged at 4.4V), but the concept is the same.
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Accubattery indicated ~2000/2100 mAh for the old battery. In terms of actual use I'd be at ~30% by the end of the day with my typical use. Phone never shut down/rebooted. I don't play games or run cpu benchmarks. Probably the most intensive activity would be creating twrp backups with compression, titaniumbackups, playing youtube (hd), or running speed tests (symmetrical gigabit network). We'll see how the phone works after a month. This was an ebay/paypal transaction so there's 180 days to make any sort of claim on it. It's a $16 battery - If I'm able to go two days between charges like I used to, I'll be a happy camper regardless what the app says. I do have one of those KEWEISI amp meters on order so it'll be interesting how that compares to the app.
gpz1100 said:
Accubattery indicated ~2000/2100 mAh for the old battery. In terms of actual use I'd be at ~30% by the end of the day with my typical use. Phone never shut down/rebooted. I don't play games or run cpu benchmarks. Probably the most intensive activity would be creating twrp backups with compression, titaniumbackups, playing youtube (hd), or running speed tests (symmetrical gigabit network). We'll see how the phone works after a month. This was an ebay/paypal transaction so there's 180 days to make any sort of claim on it. It's a $16 battery - If I'm able to go two days between charges like I used to, I'll be a happy camper regardless what the app says. I do have one of those KEWEISI amp meters on order so it'll be interesting how that compares to the app.
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that's weird. if anything i can tell you i had lots of shutdowns when my battery was at 2500 mAh, and people around here are using batteries around the same capacity with the same problems.
But it's possible that you just don't abuse it that much, I'm talking about 100% CPU usage, for example taking an HDR+ enhanced pic with GCam (CPU pegged, 10+ pictures snapped in a second). there was no way to do that with less than 30% battery, it shut down immediately.
still, i guess you saw the graph. Please tell me how it goes with the charge counter, it might just be that Accubattery is off by ~400 mAh and that's why you didn't get nearly as much trouble with the older battery.

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