I take no credit for any of the work done in the links below, and am not the first to discover or prove any of this works. All I know is it works for now, and felt the best way was to start a brand new thread with both links contained to get the message to as many people as possible. And another soak test is coming from Motorola, so GET ROOT AND UNLOCKED WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!
Towelroot verified WORKING to root the 4.4.2 HD and HD MAXX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=135540530
Unlocking possible again as well, after using Towelroot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
LifeAsADroid said:
I take no credit for any of the work done in the links below, and am not the first to discover or prove any of this works. All I know is it works for now, and felt the best way was to start a brand new thread with both links contained to get the message to as many people as possible. And another soak test is coming from Motorola, so GET ROOT AND UNLOCKED WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!
Towelroot verified WORKING to root the 4.4.2 HD and HD MAXX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=135540530
Unlocking possible again as well, after using Towelroot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
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Just read this on Android Authority and was wondering if it would work. Great to hear this. Again, users got REAL lucky on this one considering this wasn't created specifically for this phone, but for the general population of unpatched 4.4.2 kernels.
Word of warning, if you used my UNIVERSAL script to flash 183 onto your phone, you must either manually flash the TZ partition or use my KEEP DATA script before rooting an unlocking else it will fail.
BTW, I just received an email notification from Motorola stating there is another soak test coming, so definitely root and unlocked your phones NOW and I can't stress that more than enough or else, you can kiss root and unlocking good-bye, especially if this is an 4.4.3 update. Once 4.4.3 comes out, /system is no longer writeable and things will get really ugly.
So, root and then unlock your phones on the 4.4.2 KK OTA before the next one comes out or you will be sorry.
BTW, if you're so worried about voiding your warranty, once you root, you've voided your warranty and there is a root checker built into the device, so they can tell if you've rooted or not, so if you're going to root, you might as well unlock the bootloader.
The warranty concern is nonsense. PLENTY of people sent back unlocked phones and no one ever complained. Yes, the soak emails were known about last night which is why we've been trying like hell to get this message out to everyone to get it done NOW. It's an almost certainty that the TZ partition will be secured again. And root will almost assuredly be patched since it was patched in the linux kernel on june 3rd. Unlocking is the surefire way of keeping root forever, and getting to play with new roms which is awesome. Plus, don't like kitkat? Downgrade with my UNIVERSAL script. (Yes, the one that's causing some problems for people unlocking. LOL). We can not stress this enough...NOW is the time to unlock before it's too late. I can't even begin to describe how lucky you all are.
One question. After I unlock the bootloader and they send out 4.4.3, will it be possible to take the update OTA?
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One question. After I unlock the bootloader and they send out 4.4.3, will it be possible to take the update OTA?
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yes but there may be some jumping through hoops like unrooting or sbfing but you will not lose any data and you can just reroot by flashing a superuser.zip . unless moto goes from nice to evil and this ota re locks boot loaders
That's what I'm wondering. Will they relock the bootloader or leave it be since these phones are nearly two years old.
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yes but there may be some jumping through hoops like unrooting or sbfing but you will not lose any data and you can just reroot by flashing a superuser.zip . unless moto goes from nice to evil and this ota re locks boot loaders
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Stop that. They're not going to relock the bootloader. However, screw OTA's. Wait for the FXZ to leak and use my RSD Script Generator to create a KEEP DATA or UNIVERSAL script and flash that with RSD. Flash custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) and flash supersu zip and be done with the whole thing. Forget unrooting and trying to make the OTA work. Too much effort. LMAO
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See what you've done? These poor people are now paranoid about bootloader relocking. LOL! They won't relock it. It's physically blowing an eFuse to do the unlock. Relocking would be extremely problematic and cause more problems than they'd solve. And given the likelihood that this was "accidentally" done (cough cough) in the first place, there's an almost 0 chance of relocking.
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That's what I'm wondering. Will they relock the bootloader or leave it be since these phones are nearly two years old.
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i dont think they will and even if they did we could probably get around it with @SamuriHL universal script we would just have to wait until the sbf/fxz files come out
Which I'm recommending you do anyway.
I never unlocked the bootloader the first go round but I'm sure going to this time.
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Good to hear. I want everyone with these phones to do so. This is a great opportunity. No one should be sitting on the fence this time.
Indeed great news. Too bad my XT926 is not by me right now(being used by my father) and I can get my hand on it till september.
My XT926 is bootloader locked and has JB 4.2. build is 9.18.94 I guess. I have my phone rooted and since then using safestrape 3.12 and has stock rom and RageHD ROM on it. I can remember last time trying to install OTA the update process failed even I have used voodoo root keeper to hide the root.
So now my questions:
1. Is the right procedure for me: Remove Safestrape->Install OTA KK->using methods described here for KK for unlocking?
2. What was the reason the OTA update failed? Safestrape?
3. Can I uninstall Safestrape through it's "uninstall" function?
4. After uninstall if I choose OTA update, will it be the current KK which contains this old exploit for bootloader unlocking?
5. If I wait till september to do it myself, if there is another OTA out which patches this exploit again, can I fake a Moto web site and pointing it to the current KK (183), lets say change the host file on XT926. Is this even possible?
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Indeed great news. Too bad my XT926 is not by me right now(being used by my father) and I can get my hand on it till september.
My XT926 is bootloader locked and has JB 4.2. build is 9.18.94 I guess. I have my phone rooted and since then using safestrape 3.12 and has stock rom and RageHD ROM on it. I can remember last time trying to install OTA the update process failed even I have used voodoo root keeper to hide the root.
So now my questions:
1. Is the right procedure for me: Remove Safestrape->Install OTA KK->using methods described here for KK for unlocking?
2. What was the reason the OTA update failed? Safestrape?
3. Can I uninstall Safestrape through it's "uninstall" function?
4. After uninstall if I choose OTA update, will it be the current KK which contains this old exploit for bootloader unlocking?
5. If I wait till september to do it myself, if there is another OTA out which patches this exploit again, can I fake a Moto web site and pointing it to the current KK (183), lets say change the host file on XT926. Is this even possible?
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1.yes
2.yes
3.yes but ota will not install you will need to use what me and @SamuriHL posted to go to the ota
4.yes
5.no you you use the hack posted
billycar11 said:
3.yes but ota will not install you will need to use what me and @SamuriHL posted to go to the ota
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Ok, maybe you mean the following method?
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
xknobi said:
Ok, maybe you mean the following method?
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
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yes that is what i posted
Rooted and unlocked using the apk's. Doesn't get any easier than that. Now what is the preferred custom recovery for most of you?
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billycar11 said:
yes that is what i posted
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Thanks billycar11!
From the description I see that the script will flash a 760MB file, the KK 4.4.2 (KDA20.62-10.1). So I won't be afaid that when I wait for some months even if Moto patched their OTA for this bootloader exploit, the unpatched bootloader is still in (KDA20.62-10.1), which I assume is build 183, so I will still be able to use this exploit, as long as my phone is in JB (4.2) state?
newmanx4 said:
Rooted and unlocked using the apk's. Doesn't get any easier than that. Now what is the preferred custom recovery for most of you?
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twrp by @dhacker29 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776515
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xknobi said:
Thanks billycar11!
From the description I see that the script will flash a 760MB file, the KK 4.4.2 (KDA20.62-10.1). So I won't be afaid that when I wait for some months even if Moto patched their OTA for this bootloader exploit, the unpatched bootloader is still in (KDA20.62-10.1), which I assume is build 183, so I will still be able to use this exploit, as long as my phone is in JB (4.2) state?
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there is no jb 4.2 i think you mean 4.1..2 . but you will not be able to use it on jelly bean you need to update to kitkat root then unlock.
Related
RAZR HD and RAZR M Updates Fix the Kernel Exploit for Unlocking Bootloaders
The question I've yet to see answered is if it affects those who are already unlocked. Meaning, if I flash this will I have any problem putting custom recovery back on....I'm tempted just so we can answer that question.
SamuriHL said:
The question I've yet to see answered is if it affects those who are already unlocked. Meaning, if I flash this will I have any problem putting custom recovery back on....I'm tempted just so we can answer that question.
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Once u unlock it can't be relocked because the Bootloader Qfuse is blown when u unlock the Bootloader
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krazyace35 said:
Once u unlock it can't be relocked because the Bootloader Qfuse is blown when u unlock the Bootloader
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It's not that simple, I'm afraid. Having talked to Dan R about this subject, it's not as straightforward as that. Yes, one of the qfuses is blown and causes the phone to go into unlocked "mode" (for lack of a better description) but there isn't just one qfuse.....
SamuriHL said:
It's not that simple, I'm afraid. Having talked to Dan R about this subject, it's not as straightforward as that. Yes, one of the qfuses is blown and causes the phone to go into unlocked "mode" (for lack of a better description) but there isn't just one qfuse.....
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I was just stating what I was told by several other developers but Dan should know since he unlocked it to start with. Thanks for letting me know that.
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I was just stating what I was told by several other developers but Dan should know since he unlocked it to start with. Thanks for letting me know that.
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I'm one of the ones that originally thought that since the qfuse was blown it couldn't be relocked, but, Dan corrected me and said it's technically possible since there's more than one qfuse. However, that being said, it's incredibly unlikely to ever happen. If they got it wrong and relocked a dev device, for instance, they could be in some trouble. So I'm not too concerned but it's something I like to at least consider with these OTA's.
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I'm one of the ones that originally thought that since the qfuse was blown it couldn't be relocked, but, Dan corrected me and said it's technically possible since there's more than one qfuse. However, that being said, it's incredibly unlikely to ever happen. If they got it wrong and relocked a dev device, for instance, they could be in some trouble. So I'm not too concerned but it's something I like to at least consider with these OTA's.
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Yea they would have to unlock those devices for everyone. I won't have to worry about getting relocked because I love 4.2.2 and love flashing roms
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krazyace35 said:
Yea they would have to unlock those devices for everyone. I won't have to worry about getting relocked because I love 4.2.2 and love flashing roms
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I just finished installing the update. I did get an assert failed at the end of the update, though. assert failed: motorola.bl.backup(). LOL. I can guess what that is and why it failed. As soon as it's done with the android upgrade script I'll put TWRP back on and try nandroiding it. I'm likely to go back to CM 10.1 shortly but I wanted the updated radios and to find out for sure if anyone had to worry about this update who's unlocked.
The current soak removes root but does not lock the bootloader.
Root can be kept with VoodooOTA.
I can attest to the above since I just went through it.
I have protected and unrooted via Voodoo, but how did you uninstall TWRP or get around that? Found the update in the cache directory, but obviously you can't just install from there.
Not so much an uninstall. You have to flash stock recovery. You can get the MR2 FXZ and flash it from that easy enough.
I'm not on this new update anymore. I don't want to scare people with my story, but, I actually managed to brick temporarily an unlocked phone. If I didn't have a backup to restore I could have been in quite a bit of trouble. I'm probably about to brick it again cause I need to know a few things about this stupid update and unlocked phones. And my curiosity won't allow me to leave it alone for long. I do wish we had an FXZ but such is life. It's possible I may not be able to get this update reinstalled without one though.
My apologies for coming into this discussion late... What update are we talking about? I am on 4.1.2, rooted, unlocked, but have no updates waiting in my "system updates". Or is my phone just one of the last to receive an OTA... AGAIN...
EDIT: Does it matter that I used the Utility 2.0 to get to 4.1.2 and not a previous OTA?
New soak test that got leaked this morning. Will be pushing out in a week or so most likely.
Thanks Samurai! Not only for keeping me informed, but also for working with the OTA leak to figure all of this out for us not-as-capable folk prior to full-scale release.
Don't mention it. Happy to help. This update is a pain in my....uh anyway. I got MR2 back on my phone...mostly. Backing it up and will attempt to install the update again.
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Update is now in fact installed, rooted, and is backing up in the new version of TWRP (2.6.0.0) that Hashcode just gave us. (It's up on goo). Finally.
the soak test has been released, i the received update about 2pm eastern today
So how do we update and keep all well?
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Don't mention it. Happy to help. This update is a pain in my....uh anyway. I got MR2 back on my phone...mostly. Backing it up and will attempt to install the update again.
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Update is now in fact installed, rooted, and is backing up in the new version of TWRP (2.6.0.0) that Hashcode just gave us. (It's up on goo). Finally.
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How were you able to install the update. I am too rooted and unlocked. Before I started to install the update I used voodoo rootkeeper to temp unroot. Then when I installed the new updated I thought it went thru; the installation process went smooth and my phone started back up and said installing new apps so I thought the install was actually gonna take. Then after the apps installed I received message saying that the update failed!. Please Help!!
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nigezee said:
How were you able to install the update. I am too rooted and unlocked. Before I started to install the update I used voodoo rootkeeper to temp unroot. Then when I installed the new updated I thought it went thru; the installation process went smooth and my phone started back up and said installing new apps so I thought the install was actually gonna take. Then after the apps installed I received message saying that the update failed!. Please Help!!
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Um, Hmmmm. Well, I can tell you how I did it but it might not be a whole lot of help. I'm the author of the House of Bionic, so, I whipped up my own personal House of RAZR_HD. I restored my MR4 backup (I run CM 10.1 usually) and then had to downgrade that to MR2 using my utility. Basically it's an FXZ of MR2 that doesn't wipe the data partition. I booted into stock recovery, applied the update, got the awesome motorola.update.bl.backup() assertion error (which is fine from what I'm told...happens on unlocked phones), wiped the cache in recovery, and rebooted. From there once it did the android upgrade script, I rebooted into AP Fastboot, installed TWRP 2.6.0.0 (new version Hashcode just put up on goo), directly rebooted into TWRP (if you allow the phone to boot, it'll overwrite recovery...shut it off from AP Fastboot, and boot up into the menu and select recovery), installed the supersu zip in TWRP, ran a nandroid, and now I'm done. Upgrade taken, rooted, and backed up.
So I've been reading on this for a bit and before I accept or prolong the update when it gets to my phone I just am curious about something. What are the chances of the bootloader getting unlocked again with the fix? Currently, I have absolutely no intention of unlocking the phone or rooting as for once I am pretty happy with the performance, battery life, and interface. I don't see myself needing to do it in the near future, but there might be a time where I want to (i.e., when KLP is released).
I understand that the soak update only JUST got to phone in the last day or so, so I don't necessarily expect a definite answer, but are people at least going to work on it? If they're not, I might as well unlock it now before I get the update.
I was finally about to root my RAZR M after owning the phone about a year. My primary reason for rooting would be to uninstall all of the system bloat ware that came with it.
I've tried a few different ways to root, but it keeps failing. There was a new update installed a couple days before I tried rooting and I suspect this is the reason it won't work. Is this the case?
Is there a workaround for rooting RAZR M with the current update? If there is simply no way to do it, I would at least like to know if there's a way to remove pre-installed apps without root. Please help!!
Thanks in advance for your response.
mikephillipsart.org
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What's your system version? I you're on the most recent update, there's no way to root yet.
Thanks for your quick response.
98.30.1.XT907
Update happened literally the day I was planning on rooting!! Gotta loose that bloatware! Plus I'm a compulsive customizer.
I'm wondering if its possible to revert back to before the update.. my research so far has produced nothing so far
mikephillipsart.org
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flow motive said:
Thanks for your quick response.
98.30.1.XT907
Update happened literally the day I was planning on rooting!! Gotta loose that bloatware! Plus I'm a compulsive customizer.
I'm wondering if its possible to revert back to before the update.. my research so far has produced nothing so far
mikephillipsart.org
nixthelatter.bandcamp.com
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At the moment there is no way to root 98.30.1 without an unlocked bootloader. Reverting back to previous versions may brick your device.
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Leraeniesh said:
At the moment there is no way to root 98.30.1 without an unlocked bootloader. Reverting back to previous versions may brick your device.
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I have an unlocked bootloader and have the newest OTA, would you be able to point me to a way of rooting? Please and thank you!
dtraini7 said:
I have an unlocked bootloader and have the newest OTA, would you be able to point me to a way of rooting? Please and thank you!
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Grab the .zip from here and flash in recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
I got a Razr M from a friend who had already updated to 98.30.1 and I'm stuck now with a locked BL and Unrooted ROM. No hope in sight? Then there's this ... http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...y-warranties-on-developer-devices-reinstated/
Maybe there is a silver lining in the horizon?
Really bums me out there's no root for the new update, I was waiting to root till I decided I was gonna keep this phone then the Sept update came and now I can't root. Very disappointed. Wonder if it'll ever get bl unlock?
Anyone considered this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541739 ?
Has anyone been following the MotoX root method for Kit Kat seeing how it'll likely be the same for Ultra/Maxx? Wow! After seeing all the problems with RockMyMoto this method (assuming it'll work for us) is sure to be a doosie!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
SlapMyMoto 0.5c Beta (4.4 root, RW to system)
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What problems? Inability to follow directions?
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Exactly!
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Lol one of the issues we won't face is downgrading I am so glad the moto x gets these updates before us. We get to see all the pitfalls.
Buy dev edition. Unlock bootloader. Install custom recovery. Install su. Profit?
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arcanexvi said:
Buy dev edition. Unlock bootloader. Install custom recovery. Install su. Profit?
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Out of stock ATM
arcanexvi said:
Buy dev edition. Unlock bootloader. Install custom recovery. Install su. Profit?
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I've been thinking of finding someone willing to trade a dev edition for a regular+cash. It didnt make sense to get it at the time when the Verizon store had them for $499 and the dev edition was $650-ish, but i'm starting to itch for some custom ROMs. All this waiting for official stuff is getting old.
bigv5150 said:
Lol one of the issues we won't face is downgrading I am so glad the moto x gets these updates before us. We get to see all the pitfalls.
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And why wouldn't we have to down grade? And wipe all our date to update and root?
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And why wouldn't we have to down grade? And wipe all our date to update and root?
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I'm glad you asked because were already on 4.2.2 why would we downgrade. The moto x got the update and jcase hadn't created the exploit yet which requires you to be on 4.2.2 so they had to down grade. Jcase just updated the exploit and is looking for droid testers his instructions say to downgrade unless your already on 4.2.2 My advie is to not install the update yet if you want root. You will just have to downgrade its more work. If you take the update pull it and put on your PC don't install it. I have the updater frozen so as soon as the update is posted I will attempt to root again on 4.2.2 and install the update hope it works smoothly.
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I'm glad you asked because were already on 4.2.2 why would we downgrade. The moto x got the update and jcase hadn't created the exploit yet which requires you to be on 4.2.2 so they had to down grade. Jcase just updated the exploit and is looking for droid testers his instructions say to downgrade unless your already on 4.2.2 My advie is to not install the update yet if you want root. You will just have to downgrade its more work. If you take the update pull it and put on your PC don't install it. I have the updater frozen so as soon as the update is posted I will attempt to root again on 4.2.2 and install the update hope it works smoothly.
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That clears things up immensly! Thanks for taking the time to explain the process. I am currently on 4.2.2 and rooted. I'm just waiting for the update to drop so I can make a copy for people who need it. Then I'll try to root the new update.
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That clears things up immensly! Thanks for taking the time to explain the process. I am currently on 4.2.2 and rooted. I'm just waiting for the update to drop so I can make a copy for people who need it. Then I'll try to root the new update.
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Here check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48648074#post48648074 im waiting for jcase to get back to me if we need to unroot. I would assume so a fxz of 4.2.2 would be the best platform to try this on. It seems fairly simple to be honest his instructions are very straight foward. I feel bad for the guys that took the update they have to downgrade.
Just FYI, adb shell getprop ro.boot.write_protect is still 0 after unrooting, stock 4.2.2, then taking the KitKat OTA. Might this make it easier to root 4.4 standalone? Or should I just go back down to 4.2.2 and follow slap?
dtreth said:
Just FYI, adb shell getprop ro.boot.write_protect is still 0 after unrooting, stock 4.2.2, then taking the KitKat OTA. Might this make it easier to root 4.4 standalone? Or should I just go back down to 4.2.2 and follow slap?
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Would you be willing to:
1. Verify if downgrading back to 4.2.2 (12.15.15 firmware) is possible with the DROID line?
2. Verify if SlapMyMoto works with the DROID line?
dtreth said:
Just FYI, adb shell getprop ro.boot.write_protect is still 0 after unrooting, stock 4.2.2, then taking the KitKat OTA. Might this make it easier to root 4.4 standalone? Or should I just go back down to 4.2.2 and follow slap?
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You can't root on 4.4 only 4.2.2 doesn't matter that write protection is off. i wish it was that simple.
tehcodeman said:
Would you be willing to:
1. Verify if downgrading back to 4.2.2 (12.15.15 firmware) is possible with the DROID line?
2. Verify if SlapMyMoto works with the DROID line?
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I will when I get home. I have the files there, but I didn't grab my update.zip and I'm not sure if I can get it back after FXZing, so I may wait until I find it.
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You can't root on 4.4 only 4.2.2 doesn't matter that write protection is off. i wish it was that simple.
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What I meant by my comment was "hey guys, MotoWpNoMo survived OTA! Would this make it easier to develop a 4.4 root method that does not require downgrading?"
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I will when I get home. I have the files there, but I didn't grab my update.zip and I'm not sure if I can get it back after FXZing, so I may wait until I find it.
What I meant by my comment was "hey guys, MotoWpNoMo survived OTA! Would this make it easier to develop a 4.4 root method that does not require downgrading?"
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I don't think it matters but that is a ? For jcase.
So in my excitement to flash 4.4, I forgot to take into account losing the root. So I tried to downgrade as per JCase's suggestion, but there's a big problem if you already successfully installed the OTA. It is an updated security signature and software. Because of this, RSD Lite and fastboot return with the error of "Flash failed. Downgraded security version". Does anyone have a workaround or an updated FXZ that will flash over 4.4 to revert back to 4.2.2 so I can try the JCase's backdoor method?
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So in my excitement to flash 4.4, I forgot to take into account losing the root. So I tried to downgrade as per JCase's suggestion, but there's a big problem if you already successfully installed the OTA. It is an updated security signature and software. Because of this, RSD Lite and fastboot return with the error of "Flash failed. Downgraded security version". Does anyone have a workaround or an updated FXZ that will flash over 4.4 to revert back to 4.2.2 so I can try the JCase's backdoor method?
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Mad at you. How do you have the 4.4 update already.
After unlocking the booter, and following the instructions for SlapMyMoto, I was able to install the update for my Mini and retain root. You can do it!
zefyx said:
After unlocking the booter, and following the instructions for SlapMyMoto, I was able to install the update for my Mini and retain root. You can do it!
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It doesn't unlock the bootloader. Just takes off the write protection so you don't need to reboot your phone into recovery to turn it off. Which allows you to use the actual stock recovery as well.
Hello, I was wondering for those who kept root going from 4.1.2 to kitkat 4.4, how did you do it? My phone is currently locked but rooted and I just downloaded the OTA kit kat update but haven't installed it yet. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
No current method so don't upgrade if root is essential. Only unlocked bootloaders can get root back.
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We haven't seen anybody maintain root on a locked device across the OTA yet.
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We haven't seen anybody maintain root on a locked device across the OTA yet.
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what about on a device that is unlocked?
voodoo?
On an unlocked device you can just flash SuperSU in recovery...
And Voodoo won't work with a KitKat OTA.
how do you flash if root was lost when updated..im unlocked and had twrp but heard that is no longer working..and what is stranger is that developers option in settings s not there
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davekaz said:
how do you flash if root was lost when updated..im unlocked and had twrp but heard that is no longer working..and what is stranger is that developers option in settings s not there
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First off, in regards to TWRP, there is a newer version of CWM recovery that works with KK. Use that.
Second, the developer options have been hidden, but you have to pay me to get the info.
JUST KIDDING!
Here is what you do:
Go to settings.
Click on "About Phone"
Scroll down and then start mashing on "Build Number". It will inform you that you have so many presses before going to developer mode.
After that, it will give you a toast saying developer mode has been activated. You're done!
If someone could kindly put together a walk thru on
How to go from stock, rooted, and unlocked to kit Kat w/root
That would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
I am in the same boat, rooted on stock ROM. I don't want to lose root, but my phone keep popping up the update installer request. My phone has kept me so happy for so long that I have not kept up with the forums. I just haven't had any problems, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, is there no root for 4.2.2 yet? Or there just isn't a way to preserve it across the OTA? Should I go back to stock unrooted, update and re-root? I've been reading around the forums and I am just not seeing a whole lot of info about this yet.
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I am in the same boat, rooted on stock ROM. I don't want to lose root, but my phone keep popping up the update installer request. My phone has kept me so happy for so long that I have not kept up with the forums. I just haven't had any problems, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, is there no root for 4.2.2 yet? Or there just isn't a way to preserve it across the OTA? Should I go back to stock unrooted, update and re-root? I've been reading around the forums and I am just not seeing a whole lot of info about this yet.
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this has been discussed many times.
if you have a LOCKED phone, there is NO way to have or preserve root going to KK
if you have a UNLOCKED phone, update to KK, flash the KK cwm, flash su zip in cwm, profit!
those are the only 2 options PERIOD.
bweN diorD said:
this has been discussed many times.
if you have a LOCKED phone, there is NO way to have or preserve root going to KK
if you have a UNLOCKED phone, update to KK, flash the KK cwm, flash su zip in cwm, profit!
those are the only 2 options PERIOD.
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Ok, well, I am not unlocked. So is there a way to stop the OTA?
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Ok, well, I am not unlocked. So is there a way to stop the OTA?
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you can freeze the updater. i dont recall the exact file name(s).
someone else can jump in, or you could google it.
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you can freeze the updater. i dont recall the exact file name(s).
someone else can jump in, or you could google it.
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You are correct, just freeze the updater.apk. Well, it's worked for me anyway.
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You are correct, just freeze the updater.apk. Well, it's worked for me anyway.
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Some people say it's better to rename System > etc>security > otacerts.zip. Equal amount of people say to freeze updater. I'll follow you and freeze updater for now.
I'm itching to update to KK, and I can almost part with a rooted phone since I am running stock ROM anyway. But life without Titanium Backup just doesn't seem like a life at all.
Thanks again for the tips.
Speaking of freezing the update app, I have been doing that since before the last update so I'm currently running 4.1.2 9.16.6.XT926 does anyone know if it will cause me any trouble skipping an OTA?
Thanks.
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Speaking of freezing the update app, I have been doing that since before the last update so I'm currently running 4.1.2 9.16.6.XT926 does anyone know if it will cause me any trouble skipping an OTA?
Thanks.
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you should unlock the bootloader first if you havent already. after you update you will no longer be able to ever.
as for the update, if you flash it with rsd there shouldnt be any issue that im aware of. if you unfreeze the updater and take the actual ota(s), it will not skip any, it will pull the next in line each time until you get to the most current.
however, you will still need to use rsd before taking or sideloading the KK ota or root will cause it to fail.
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you should unlock the bootloader first if you havent already. after you update you will no longer be able to ever.
as for the update, if you flash it with rsd there shouldnt be any issue that im aware of. if you unfreeze the updater and take the actual ota(s), it will not skip any, it will pull the next in line each time until you get to the most current.
however, you will still need to use rsd before taking or sideloading the KK ota or root will cause it to fail.
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Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
"after you update you will no longer be able to ever" What will I not be able to update again? The bootloader?
Thanks.
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Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
Thanks.
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He's saying you could probably find someone who would be willing to pay you handsomely to trade phones.
Once you update your phone, the bootloader can't be unlocked....as far as we know, ever again. If you don't care, which it sounds like you don't, go ahead and update your phone.
sheep348 said:
Thanks for the help but I don't have a lot of knowledge about rooting. If I don't care about keeping root can I just take the OTAs or are you saying they will they fail if I don't first unlock the boot loader?
Thanks.
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most people who dont unlock the bootloader when they had the chance regret not doing it. its not a problem if you dont want to, i was just giving you a heads up more or less.
as for the updates,(this has nothing to do with the bootloader) im pretty sure the first 2 will install fine but im positive the 3rd, KK, will fail because you had root before.
so if you want to go to KK, you really have no other option but to use rsd first to return your phone to stock.
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He's saying you could probably find someone who would be willing to pay you handsomely to trade phones.
Once you update your phone, the bootloader can't be unlocked....as far as we know, ever again. If you don't care, which it sounds like you don't, go ahead and update your phone.
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Thanks bweN diorD and gadsden,
I appreciate the help. I only use my root access for killing music apps and I have some bloatware frozen. So personally I think I'll go ahead and update to KK since the benefits should outweigh the loss of root access for me. Should I do a factory reset first or should I be good to go taking the OTA?
Thanks again I'm always hesitant to do things to my phone because I don't have the knowledge to fix it or the money to replace it.
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bweN diorD said:
most people who dont unlock the bootloader when they had the chance regret not doing it. its not a problem if you dont want to, i was just giving you a heads up more or less.
as for the updates,(this has nothing to do with the bootloader) im pretty sure the first 2 will install fine but im positive the 3rd, KK, will fail because you had root before.
so if you want to go to KK, you really have no other option but to use rsd first to return your phone to stock.
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Again thanks, I guess I'll have to look into finding out how to use rsd and go back to stock.
Just got another email from Motorola to sign up for a preview of a new software release. Probably fixes issues that were discovered after the KK upgrade.
CAUTION FOR THOSE WITH LOCKED DEVICES: Considering you just got a new root method, I would steer clear from this if you want to keep root. I have a feeling Towelroot will not work after this since it only works for kernels dated before June 3, 2014. Also, this might break the current tethering hack as well for 4.4.2.
It would be nice if this were a 4.4.3 update, but I don't know at this time. Since I'm unlocked, I'm going to go ahead and sign up for it and see what happens.
Just wanted to get the word out to anyone with locked bootloaders to probably stay away from this unless you don't care about root and the tethering hack.
The bad news about this means the "can I unroot my KitKat phone" won't go away once the OTA comes out.
Pretty obvious that locked users should be careful with the new OTA, same as before, don't rush ahead of yourself and install every OTA that Moto pushes out. Also today is a great day, we've got a root and apparently locked users can unlock their bootloader while being on 183.46.10 update. So I'd rather recommend people to take root and unlock and do whatever the hell they want after that, considering rooting and unlocking is as simple as just installing and running 2 apks.
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Pretty obvious that locked users should be careful with the new OTA, same as before, don't rush ahead of yourself and install every OTA that Moto pushes out. Also today is a great day, we've got a root and apparently locked users can unlock their bootloader while being on 183.46.10 update. So I'd rather recommend people to take root and unlock and do whatever the hell they want after that, considering rooting and unlocking is as simple as just installing and running 2 apks.
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What? Locked users can unlock the bootloader? How? I didn't see that. Motopocolypse, from what I understand, doesn't work with anything after 9.16 OTA. I got lucky and was able to unlock mine about a year ago (didn't have 9.18 OTA applied from the factory). Still, if people can unlock their bootloaders with the KK, that's great, but again, I have not heard nor seen anything that states this. I only knew about Towelroot and that's it.
As for it being obvious, didn't matter after this past KK upgrade. People did it anyways and we got an unflux of "how do I root this sucker?" over and over again.
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What? Locked users can unlock the bootloader? How? I didn't see that. Motopocolypse, from what I understand, doesn't work with anything after 9.16 OTA. I got lucky and was able to unlock mine about a year ago (didn't have 9.18 OTA applied from the factory). Still, if people can unlock their bootloaders with the KK, that's great, but again, I have not heard nor seen anything that states this. I only knew about Towelroot and that's it.
As for it being obvious, didn't matter after this past KK upgrade. People did it anyways and we got an unflux of "how do I root this sucker?" over and over again.
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I guess I'll be late and you've found that after upgrading to KK and rooting it, you can unlock bootloader with Motopocalypse ^^. Also idk why wouldn't anyone want to unlock BL, considering the phone is on its end of life cycle and won't get anymore android updates (e.g 4.5+) it seems rather wise to unlock and have all the goodies now and in the future.
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Also, this might break the current tethering hack as well for 4.4.2.
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I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Droid Maxx "Developer Edition"
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I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
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Awesome. Thanks a bunch for that. I'll definitely want to try it out once I the new OTA comes in. Since I have an unlocked bootloader, I'm not too frightened to do the OTAs, but to know that we can get another tether mod if it does indeed break with the next OTA, that's a relief.
tether seems broken..
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I see you guys have been using the tether mod I posted for the ultra. no problem, I developed a new mod for 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 so if it does break tether and can make one for the HD.
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I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Just to confirm, from what I can tell yes the tether hack seems to have broken, I am rooted, unlocked and all that good stuff so I can always flash back, but as a warning I tried to get it working again with no success.
Now I am not ruling out the possibility that I am a dope and screwed up the procedure somewhere, in which case I pray someone can confirm it works and maybe teach a fool to fish .
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I used to have an HD so I'll help you guys out.
Just to confirm, from what I can tell yes the tether hack seems to have broken, I am rooted, unlocked and all that good stuff so I can always flash back, but as a warning I tried to get it working again with no success.
Now I am not ruling out the possibility that I am a dope and screwed up the procedure somewhere, in which case I pray someone can confirm it works and maybe teach a fool to fish .
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Uh. the tethering hack still works. Go here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...d-native-tether-exploit-build-183-46-t2872547