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Ok.. So i am ready to do root.. Just one question

I have done some reading and finally decided I will be using the Casual method to root my S 4, but I am stock with not wanting to end up with the custom lock pad permanently, and I have seen many people have not been able to get rid of it.
So here is my question... After using Casual, what would be the way to get back to stock? This method installs custom recovery, so I am not sure how to go back if indeed to....
Can some one point me in the right direction?
Appreciated!

Before we move forward here, have you updated? As it stands the update released yesterday effectively blocks root and more then likely also blocks Loki. O and it blocks Odin so you can't downgrade. This is like first and foremost if you even wanna run casual now.

no update on my phone yet...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
post #1 is about rooting/flashing. post #2 addresses returning to stock, which literally is about as simple as flashing stock firmware via odin and factory resetting. cheers

Awesome.. I read that post but forgot completely about it.. most appreciated!
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genesiss said:
Awesome.. I read that post but forgot completely about it.. most appreciated!
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as Thermalwolf stated, your firmware version is important. make sure you dont have the latest MF3

No.. MDL still
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If you're still on MDL I recommend rooting now before your phone tries to force MF3 on you as it blocks root and possibly loki.

Thermalwolf said:
If you're still on MDL I recommend rooting now before your phone tries to force MF3 on you as it blocks root and possibly loki.
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Yea, talk about making it just under the wire, your lucky you decided to root today and that your phone hadn't already updated.
I feel for those poor souls that updated, personally I think loki is patched and I remember sitting around for months and months while people tried and failed to unlock the rezound bootloader, locked bootloaders can be a b***h
Take care of your non MF3 Galaxy S4's everyone, they just became more valueable ...

movielover76 said:
Yea, talk about making it just under the wire, your lucky you decided to root today and that your phone hadn't already updated.
I feel for those poor souls that updated, personally I think loki is patched and I remember sitting around for months and months while people tried and failed to unlock the rezound bootloader, locked bootloaders can be a b***h
Take care of your non MF3 Galaxy S4's everyone, they just became more valueable ...
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Right?! This guy could not have picked a better day too root. Also I'm damn sure Loki is patched, we can't Odin back to MDL so that should speak for itself.
OP, Root and block the OTA APKs immediately! If your phone starts downloading just rip the battery out lol

Thermalwolf said:
Right?! This guy could not have picked a better day too root. Also I'm damn sure Loki is patched, we can't Odin back to MDL so that should speak for itself.
OP, Root and block the OTA APKs immediately! If your phone starts downloading just rip the battery out lol
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I just rooted last night. I keep postponing the update. I did some searching and found that I should rename wssyncmldm.apk and reboot to block the OTA update. Is this correct? Is there another file that should be renamed?
Thanks!

ok just did it.. had some issues with Windows drivers but it turns out MAC worked just fine.. i am currently doing nandroid back up..
thanks to all for replies..

ok everything works just fine.. now.. what would be my next step
. how can I avoid update? so far I am interested in staying stock. maybe remove some apps and add some.. but how can I assure I will not update?
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genesiss said:
ok everything works just fine.. now.. what would be my next step
. how can I avoid update? so far I am interested in staying stock. maybe remove some apps and add some.. but how can I assure I will not update?
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You need to read the existing threads. Go to the 'General" section read the stickies and then read the threads about the new OTA. ALL of your questions are answered in detail in those threads. Good luck.

Hopefully this works for me
I Bought my S4 yesterday and the sales rep at AT&T pressed the update button before handing it to me. I didn't think anything of it because as far as I knew android was designed to be open and easily rooted. Man was I mad when I got home. So today I went back and complained that the "phone was glitchy" and was handed another one. This time I told them not to touch it. Hand over the box and nobody gets hurt (keep in mind I paid full price for it too so i was extra mad). This one is on MDL. Now to root and block update. Hooray!

Ota upgrade fixes bootloader unlock exploit

RAZR HD and RAZR M Updates Fix the Kernel Exploit for Unlocking Bootloaders

The question I've yet to see answered is if it affects those who are already unlocked. Meaning, if I flash this will I have any problem putting custom recovery back on....I'm tempted just so we can answer that question.

SamuriHL said:
The question I've yet to see answered is if it affects those who are already unlocked. Meaning, if I flash this will I have any problem putting custom recovery back on....I'm tempted just so we can answer that question.
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Once u unlock it can't be relocked because the Bootloader Qfuse is blown when u unlock the Bootloader
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krazyace35 said:
Once u unlock it can't be relocked because the Bootloader Qfuse is blown when u unlock the Bootloader
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It's not that simple, I'm afraid. Having talked to Dan R about this subject, it's not as straightforward as that. Yes, one of the qfuses is blown and causes the phone to go into unlocked "mode" (for lack of a better description) but there isn't just one qfuse.....

SamuriHL said:
It's not that simple, I'm afraid. Having talked to Dan R about this subject, it's not as straightforward as that. Yes, one of the qfuses is blown and causes the phone to go into unlocked "mode" (for lack of a better description) but there isn't just one qfuse.....
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I was just stating what I was told by several other developers but Dan should know since he unlocked it to start with. Thanks for letting me know that.
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krazyace35 said:
I was just stating what I was told by several other developers but Dan should know since he unlocked it to start with. Thanks for letting me know that.
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I'm one of the ones that originally thought that since the qfuse was blown it couldn't be relocked, but, Dan corrected me and said it's technically possible since there's more than one qfuse. However, that being said, it's incredibly unlikely to ever happen. If they got it wrong and relocked a dev device, for instance, they could be in some trouble. So I'm not too concerned but it's something I like to at least consider with these OTA's.

SamuriHL said:
I'm one of the ones that originally thought that since the qfuse was blown it couldn't be relocked, but, Dan corrected me and said it's technically possible since there's more than one qfuse. However, that being said, it's incredibly unlikely to ever happen. If they got it wrong and relocked a dev device, for instance, they could be in some trouble. So I'm not too concerned but it's something I like to at least consider with these OTA's.
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Yea they would have to unlock those devices for everyone. I won't have to worry about getting relocked because I love 4.2.2 and love flashing roms
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krazyace35 said:
Yea they would have to unlock those devices for everyone. I won't have to worry about getting relocked because I love 4.2.2 and love flashing roms
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I just finished installing the update. I did get an assert failed at the end of the update, though. assert failed: motorola.bl.backup(). LOL. I can guess what that is and why it failed. As soon as it's done with the android upgrade script I'll put TWRP back on and try nandroiding it. I'm likely to go back to CM 10.1 shortly but I wanted the updated radios and to find out for sure if anyone had to worry about this update who's unlocked.

The current soak removes root but does not lock the bootloader.
Root can be kept with VoodooOTA.
I can attest to the above since I just went through it.

I have protected and unrooted via Voodoo, but how did you uninstall TWRP or get around that? Found the update in the cache directory, but obviously you can't just install from there.

Not so much an uninstall. You have to flash stock recovery. You can get the MR2 FXZ and flash it from that easy enough.
I'm not on this new update anymore. I don't want to scare people with my story, but, I actually managed to brick temporarily an unlocked phone. If I didn't have a backup to restore I could have been in quite a bit of trouble. I'm probably about to brick it again cause I need to know a few things about this stupid update and unlocked phones. And my curiosity won't allow me to leave it alone for long. I do wish we had an FXZ but such is life. It's possible I may not be able to get this update reinstalled without one though.

My apologies for coming into this discussion late... What update are we talking about? I am on 4.1.2, rooted, unlocked, but have no updates waiting in my "system updates". Or is my phone just one of the last to receive an OTA... AGAIN...
EDIT: Does it matter that I used the Utility 2.0 to get to 4.1.2 and not a previous OTA?

New soak test that got leaked this morning. Will be pushing out in a week or so most likely.

Thanks Samurai! Not only for keeping me informed, but also for working with the OTA leak to figure all of this out for us not-as-capable folk prior to full-scale release.

Don't mention it. Happy to help. This update is a pain in my....uh anyway. I got MR2 back on my phone...mostly. Backing it up and will attempt to install the update again.
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Update is now in fact installed, rooted, and is backing up in the new version of TWRP (2.6.0.0) that Hashcode just gave us. (It's up on goo). Finally.

the soak test has been released, i the received update about 2pm eastern today

So how do we update and keep all well?
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SamuriHL said:
Don't mention it. Happy to help. This update is a pain in my....uh anyway. I got MR2 back on my phone...mostly. Backing it up and will attempt to install the update again.
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Update is now in fact installed, rooted, and is backing up in the new version of TWRP (2.6.0.0) that Hashcode just gave us. (It's up on goo). Finally.
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How were you able to install the update. I am too rooted and unlocked. Before I started to install the update I used voodoo rootkeeper to temp unroot. Then when I installed the new updated I thought it went thru; the installation process went smooth and my phone started back up and said installing new apps so I thought the install was actually gonna take. Then after the apps installed I received message saying that the update failed!. Please Help!!
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nigezee said:
How were you able to install the update. I am too rooted and unlocked. Before I started to install the update I used voodoo rootkeeper to temp unroot. Then when I installed the new updated I thought it went thru; the installation process went smooth and my phone started back up and said installing new apps so I thought the install was actually gonna take. Then after the apps installed I received message saying that the update failed!. Please Help!!
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Um, Hmmmm. Well, I can tell you how I did it but it might not be a whole lot of help. I'm the author of the House of Bionic, so, I whipped up my own personal House of RAZR_HD. I restored my MR4 backup (I run CM 10.1 usually) and then had to downgrade that to MR2 using my utility. Basically it's an FXZ of MR2 that doesn't wipe the data partition. I booted into stock recovery, applied the update, got the awesome motorola.update.bl.backup() assertion error (which is fine from what I'm told...happens on unlocked phones), wiped the cache in recovery, and rebooted. From there once it did the android upgrade script, I rebooted into AP Fastboot, installed TWRP 2.6.0.0 (new version Hashcode just put up on goo), directly rebooted into TWRP (if you allow the phone to boot, it'll overwrite recovery...shut it off from AP Fastboot, and boot up into the menu and select recovery), installed the supersu zip in TWRP, ran a nandroid, and now I'm done. Upgrade taken, rooted, and backed up.

So I've been reading on this for a bit and before I accept or prolong the update when it gets to my phone I just am curious about something. What are the chances of the bootloader getting unlocked again with the fix? Currently, I have absolutely no intention of unlocking the phone or rooting as for once I am pretty happy with the performance, battery life, and interface. I don't see myself needing to do it in the near future, but there might be a time where I want to (i.e., when KLP is released).
I understand that the soak update only JUST got to phone in the last day or so, so I don't necessarily expect a definite answer, but are people at least going to work on it? If they're not, I might as well unlock it now before I get the update.

[Q] To root or wait?

Hey guys,
I want to root to use V4A and some root apps but I have a question.
Shall I root now or wait for 4.4 and then root?
Because when I root now I need to do alot of things to be able to update to 4.4, right?
Thanks in advance.

kpieters5 said:
Hey guys,
I want to root to use V4A and some root apps but I have a question.
Shall I root now or wait for 4.4 and then root?
Because when I root now I need to do alot of things to be able to update to 4.4, right?
Thanks in advance.
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I think you should wait.. The Big month has arrived..
you can root it now,its not that hectic or hard to go back to stock..
Press thanks if I helped you..

kpieters5 said:
Hey guys,
I want to root to use V4A and some root apps but I have a question.
Shall I root now or wait for 4.4 and then root?
Because when I root now I need to do alot of things to be able to update to 4.4, right?
Thanks in advance.
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You don't necessarily need to do a lot of things to un-root after you root. Are you familiar with flashing factory images? Right when 4.4 comes out, Google should release the 4.4 factory image for the Nexus 4. You should be able to grab the images and flash them the same day they announce 4.4, whereas if you want to grab the OTA update for 4.4 (which you might have trouble grabbing if you're rooted), you might have to wait a week or so. Here are some helpful links:
Helpful guide to flash factory images
Obligatory root guide; great as a reference
I would recommend getting comfortable with adb and fastboot before flashing, well, anything. I know in the perfect world that would be possible, but most people want root and just want it done without fully understanding what's going on. If you follow the above guides line for line, you should be ok. Another helpful tip: no matter what, as long as you can get into the bootloader, your phone is not bricked and can fully be fixed.
All of that said, if you can wait, then I'd say wait. The announcement should be within the next few weeks.

Johmama said:
You don't necessarily need to do a lot of things to un-root after you root. Are you familiar with flashing factory images? Right when 4.4 comes out, Google should release the 4.4 factory image for the Nexus 4. You should be able to grab the images and flash them the same day they announce 4.4, whereas if you want to grab the OTA update for 4.4 (which you might have trouble grabbing if you're rooted), you might have to wait a week or so. Here are some helpful links:
Helpful guide to flash factory images
Obligatory root guide; great as a reference
I would recommend getting comfortable with adb and fastboot before flashing, well, anything. I know in the perfect world that would be possible, but most people want root and just want it done without fully understanding what's going on. If you follow the above guides line for line, you should be ok. Another helpful tip: no matter what, as long as you can get into the bootloader, your phone is not bricked and can fully be fixed.
All of that said, if you can wait, then I'd say wait. The announcement should be within the next few weeks.
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Thank you very much for the links and the info!
Luckly, im pretty handy with adb/rooting and stuff like that, but I still have a question though.
If I root now and remain stock(no custom rom and kernel) will unrooting and flashing stock recovery trough ADB make me able to install OTA update of 4.4 without wipe?
Thanks again!

As far as I've known, a rooted Android phone can safely receive an update as long as you don't change things like the kernel, custom rom, etc). The only thing that should happen is that you'll be unrooted once you update your phone but don't quote me on it. HOPEFULLY SOMEONE WITH MORE KNOWLEDGE WILL CHIME IN AND CONFIRM WHAT I SAID
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if you want or need root, then root. if you dont want root or dont need it, then dont root. it doesnt matter what everyones opinion on the matter is, they are not you and dont know what your needs are. my guess is that you dont need it, since you arent decisive and need opinions. i need an opinion also, should i wash my hair today?
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to update to 4.4 after having root is a non problem.. you either will have to flash a prerooted rom, or youll youll take the ota update, then reflash a custom recovery and the su binaries. both of which takes just a few minutes.

simms22 said:
i need an opinion also, should i wash my hair today?
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Don't wash your hair today, let the natural oil build up.

eksasol said:
Don't wash your hair today, let the natural oil build up.
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little do you know, i am bald, and have the rest shaved off
but i need to come back here and thank you, when i get some thanks again. you made my evening!

Thanks for all the answers! helped me alot!

Razr hd / hd maxx 4.4.2 rooting and unlocking - get it while you can!!

I take no credit for any of the work done in the links below, and am not the first to discover or prove any of this works. All I know is it works for now, and felt the best way was to start a brand new thread with both links contained to get the message to as many people as possible. And another soak test is coming from Motorola, so GET ROOT AND UNLOCKED WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!
Towelroot verified WORKING to root the 4.4.2 HD and HD MAXX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=135540530
Unlocking possible again as well, after using Towelroot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912

LifeAsADroid said:
I take no credit for any of the work done in the links below, and am not the first to discover or prove any of this works. All I know is it works for now, and felt the best way was to start a brand new thread with both links contained to get the message to as many people as possible. And another soak test is coming from Motorola, so GET ROOT AND UNLOCKED WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!
Towelroot verified WORKING to root the 4.4.2 HD and HD MAXX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=135540530
Unlocking possible again as well, after using Towelroot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
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Just read this on Android Authority and was wondering if it would work. Great to hear this. Again, users got REAL lucky on this one considering this wasn't created specifically for this phone, but for the general population of unpatched 4.4.2 kernels.

Word of warning, if you used my UNIVERSAL script to flash 183 onto your phone, you must either manually flash the TZ partition or use my KEEP DATA script before rooting an unlocking else it will fail.

BTW, I just received an email notification from Motorola stating there is another soak test coming, so definitely root and unlocked your phones NOW and I can't stress that more than enough or else, you can kiss root and unlocking good-bye, especially if this is an 4.4.3 update. Once 4.4.3 comes out, /system is no longer writeable and things will get really ugly.
So, root and then unlock your phones on the 4.4.2 KK OTA before the next one comes out or you will be sorry.
BTW, if you're so worried about voiding your warranty, once you root, you've voided your warranty and there is a root checker built into the device, so they can tell if you've rooted or not, so if you're going to root, you might as well unlock the bootloader.

The warranty concern is nonsense. PLENTY of people sent back unlocked phones and no one ever complained. Yes, the soak emails were known about last night which is why we've been trying like hell to get this message out to everyone to get it done NOW. It's an almost certainty that the TZ partition will be secured again. And root will almost assuredly be patched since it was patched in the linux kernel on june 3rd. Unlocking is the surefire way of keeping root forever, and getting to play with new roms which is awesome. Plus, don't like kitkat? Downgrade with my UNIVERSAL script. (Yes, the one that's causing some problems for people unlocking. LOL). We can not stress this enough...NOW is the time to unlock before it's too late. I can't even begin to describe how lucky you all are.

One question. After I unlock the bootloader and they send out 4.4.3, will it be possible to take the update OTA?
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newmanx4 said:
One question. After I unlock the bootloader and they send out 4.4.3, will it be possible to take the update OTA?
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yes but there may be some jumping through hoops like unrooting or sbfing but you will not lose any data and you can just reroot by flashing a superuser.zip . unless moto goes from nice to evil and this ota re locks boot loaders

That's what I'm wondering. Will they relock the bootloader or leave it be since these phones are nearly two years old.
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billycar11 said:
yes but there may be some jumping through hoops like unrooting or sbfing but you will not lose any data and you can just reroot by flashing a superuser.zip . unless moto goes from nice to evil and this ota re locks boot loaders
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Stop that. They're not going to relock the bootloader. However, screw OTA's. Wait for the FXZ to leak and use my RSD Script Generator to create a KEEP DATA or UNIVERSAL script and flash that with RSD. Flash custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) and flash supersu zip and be done with the whole thing. Forget unrooting and trying to make the OTA work. Too much effort. LMAO
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See what you've done? These poor people are now paranoid about bootloader relocking. LOL! They won't relock it. It's physically blowing an eFuse to do the unlock. Relocking would be extremely problematic and cause more problems than they'd solve. And given the likelihood that this was "accidentally" done (cough cough) in the first place, there's an almost 0 chance of relocking.

newmanx4 said:
That's what I'm wondering. Will they relock the bootloader or leave it be since these phones are nearly two years old.
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i dont think they will and even if they did we could probably get around it with @SamuriHL universal script we would just have to wait until the sbf/fxz files come out

Which I'm recommending you do anyway.

I never unlocked the bootloader the first go round but I'm sure going to this time.
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Good to hear. I want everyone with these phones to do so. This is a great opportunity. No one should be sitting on the fence this time.

Indeed great news. Too bad my XT926 is not by me right now(being used by my father) and I can get my hand on it till september.
My XT926 is bootloader locked and has JB 4.2. build is 9.18.94 I guess. I have my phone rooted and since then using safestrape 3.12 and has stock rom and RageHD ROM on it. I can remember last time trying to install OTA the update process failed even I have used voodoo root keeper to hide the root.
So now my questions:
1. Is the right procedure for me: Remove Safestrape->Install OTA KK->using methods described here for KK for unlocking?
2. What was the reason the OTA update failed? Safestrape?
3. Can I uninstall Safestrape through it's "uninstall" function?
4. After uninstall if I choose OTA update, will it be the current KK which contains this old exploit for bootloader unlocking?
5. If I wait till september to do it myself, if there is another OTA out which patches this exploit again, can I fake a Moto web site and pointing it to the current KK (183), lets say change the host file on XT926. Is this even possible?

xknobi said:
Indeed great news. Too bad my XT926 is not by me right now(being used by my father) and I can get my hand on it till september.
My XT926 is bootloader locked and has JB 4.2. build is 9.18.94 I guess. I have my phone rooted and since then using safestrape 3.12 and has stock rom and RageHD ROM on it. I can remember last time trying to install OTA the update process failed even I have used voodoo root keeper to hide the root.
So now my questions:
1. Is the right procedure for me: Remove Safestrape->Install OTA KK->using methods described here for KK for unlocking?
2. What was the reason the OTA update failed? Safestrape?
3. Can I uninstall Safestrape through it's "uninstall" function?
4. After uninstall if I choose OTA update, will it be the current KK which contains this old exploit for bootloader unlocking?
5. If I wait till september to do it myself, if there is another OTA out which patches this exploit again, can I fake a Moto web site and pointing it to the current KK (183), lets say change the host file on XT926. Is this even possible?
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1.yes
2.yes
3.yes but ota will not install you will need to use what me and @SamuriHL posted to go to the ota
4.yes
5.no you you use the hack posted

billycar11 said:
3.yes but ota will not install you will need to use what me and @SamuriHL posted to go to the ota
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Ok, maybe you mean the following method?
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/

xknobi said:
Ok, maybe you mean the following method?
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
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yes that is what i posted

Rooted and unlocked using the apk's. Doesn't get any easier than that. Now what is the preferred custom recovery for most of you?
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billycar11 said:
yes that is what i posted
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Thanks billycar11!
From the description I see that the script will flash a 760MB file, the KK 4.4.2 (KDA20.62-10.1). So I won't be afaid that when I wait for some months even if Moto patched their OTA for this bootloader exploit, the unpatched bootloader is still in (KDA20.62-10.1), which I assume is build 183, so I will still be able to use this exploit, as long as my phone is in JB (4.2) state?

newmanx4 said:
Rooted and unlocked using the apk's. Doesn't get any easier than that. Now what is the preferred custom recovery for most of you?
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twrp by @dhacker29 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776515
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xknobi said:
Thanks billycar11!
From the description I see that the script will flash a 760MB file, the KK 4.4.2 (KDA20.62-10.1). So I won't be afaid that when I wait for some months even if Moto patched their OTA for this bootloader exploit, the unpatched bootloader is still in (KDA20.62-10.1), which I assume is build 183, so I will still be able to use this exploit, as long as my phone is in JB (4.2) state?
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there is no jb 4.2 i think you mean 4.1..2 . but you will not be able to use it on jelly bean you need to update to kitkat root then unlock.

Noob root question. If i get an OTA can i just flash SuperSU once im already rooted?

Sorry for the confusing title, I'm coming from a Nexus 6 that was one of the easier phones to root and customize. So far I'm on month 3 with my V20 and haven't rooted it yet. If I do and receive a OTA I will obviously lose my root, but once I have an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery installed, can I just reflash SuperSU to reroot?
Thanks.

OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.

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OTAs on this device overwrite the bootloader and recovery. you WILL lose root. and all methods to get it back.
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So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!

tjlmbklr said:
So then rooting is pointless right now?
Should have got the Pixel.
Thanks!
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Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.

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Rooting isn't pointless. You still have access to all the exclusive root features you wouldn't normally have of course. Why would you want to take an OTA anyways unless you have some issue with your phone (just curious)? You could just wait for someone to post TWRP flashable updates for your variant of the V20 so that you can keep root access while still updating.
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I'm waiting on 7.1 and fear I will finally root and it will come along in a OTA and I will not be able to root again until someone comes up with a new form of root.
I could be way off though, like I said, noob question, I came from a Nexus 6 where root and flashing custom ROMs was a cake walk for a guy like me.
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all you need is someone who can provide updated stock roms like i do on the ls997 On the sprint model we have the latest OTA applied

Yeah but as you know development on the H990ds isn't exactly buzzing.

Neither are the other devices anymore

I guess. Surprises me as the V20 is a fantastic device.
But LG didn't make anything easy for you devs.