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ART] is a new Android runtime being introduced experimentally in the 4.4 release. This is a preview of work in progress in KitKat that can be turned on in Settings > developer options. This is available for the purpose of obtaining early developer and partner feedback.
Important: Dalvik must remain the default runtime or you risk breaking your Android implementations and third-party applications.
I just booted my phone in ART runtime from developer options.
ART vs Dalvik / AOT vs JIT
Android apps are deployed in Dalvik bytecode, which is portable, unlike native code. In order to be able to run the app on a device, the code has to be compiled to machine code.
Dalvik is based on*JIT (just in time) compilation. It means that each time you run an app, the part of the code required for its execution is going to be translated (compiled) to machine code at that moment. As you progress through the app, additional code is going to be compiled and cached, so that the system can reuse the code while the app is running. Since JIT compiles only a part of the code, it has a smaller memory footprint and uses less physical space on the device.
ART, on the other hand, compiles the intermediate language, Dalvik bytecode, into a*system-dependent binary. The whole code of the app will be pre-compiled during install (once), thus removing the lag that we see when we open an app on our device. With no need for JIT compilation, the code should execute much faster.
Except for the potential speed increase, the use of ART can provide an important secondary benefit. As ART runs app machine code directly (native execution), it doesn't hit the CPU as hard as just-in-time code compiling on Dalvik. Less CPU usage results in less battery drain, which is a big plus for portable devices in general.
ADVANTAGES
> increased speed in CPU floating operations by approx. 20%
> increased speed in RAM operations by approx. 10%
> increased speed in storage operations by approx. 10%
> CPU integer operations - slight advantage goes to Dalvik
Pretty neat, don't you agree? There is one more hidden, but very important benefit of ART. When you ask iPhone users how they feel about the look and feel of Android smartphones, they often complain thatAndroid feels laggy, despite the fact that hardware on both phones is top notch. Perceived lag/delay is the result of JIT compilation and it more or less disappears after switching to ART.
If u want to experience it just try it out.
CAUTION
THE BOOT TIME IS TOO LONG ,JUST DONT SWITCH OFF PHONE BY GETTING SCARED IT'S ALRIGHT
REGARDS,
#startracker
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Antutu and Quadrant BM results with ART
In my Nexus 7, There was a definite and good improvement in both the benchmark results.
But in MOTO E I was surprised that with ART both the BM scored much lower scores (Antutu 12500 with dalvik and 11700 with ART in Quadrant 5166 with Dalvik and 3350 with ART). Hence I have reverted to Dalvik Cache in my Moto E.
Please do post your results.
Regards
I booted my E with ART, the results, well, just saying I wasn't satisfied. Most of my games disappeared from the launcher, internal storage jumped from 500 MB to 1.1 GB(That was expected), and the whole system lagged like hell. I have no clue why. So I quickly reverted to Dalvik. I guess in the next update It'll be better. BTW did you notice the same issues.
I faced interface laggy !
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Well I had a totally opposite experience...
At first the mob got heated a lot while starting up.
Then there was some lag.
But after that the mob became fast...
I didnt saw any storage jump tooo...
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SArnab©® said:
Well I had a totally opposite experience...
At first the mob got heated a lot while starting up.
Then there was some lag.
But after that the mob became fast...
I didnt saw any storage jump tooo...
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Yes after an hour or so it becomes cool .I am gonna be permanently on ART NOW
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startracker said:
Yes after an hour or so it becomes cool .I am gonna be permanently on ART NOW
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Well cor me it was lag free within a minute after boot.
But yes Antutu rating falled by 400...
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I am getting less battery drain even after watching videos for half an hour that's cool
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I had a chat with a dev of MOTO e ,he said the work of ART is incomplete it will be fixed with next update
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i switched to ART, boot time wasnt that long and even the phone is cool as yet
There's any way to detect if ART is in use?
I changed to art in developer options but after the boot the setting was back to Dalvik.
Then I noticed the lib didn't change in build.prop and edited it manually to use libart.so... After boot I don't see any difference.
There's anything else I can do to manually change to art?
Noed said:
There's any way to detect if ART is in use?
I changed to art in developer options but after the boot the setting was back to Dalvik.
Then I noticed the lib didn't change in build.prop and edited it manually to use libart.so... After boot I don't see any difference.
There's anything else I can do to manually change to art?
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Try changing from developers option once again.
Let it shut down and boot itself.
May be something or the other went wrong the first time.
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ART is a No Go for me as of now. Yes the small boost in performance is evident but some of the apps I use aren't compatible with it. Given its a work in progress, stability issues are prominent. Frequent FC's (even with apps that are supported). So I'd stick to Dlavik for now.
PS: Just for reference as OP mentioned it. The lag in Android is not just 'cause of the runtime. There are other reasons too.
Let's see how art works in 4.4.3
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I switched dalvik to art time , for the first time boot time takes more than 15 minutes
phone is heating during 1st boot on art time
while finish optimisation and sarting apps a message has pop up as ahowing "Unfortunately com.android.phone has stoped "
and phone doesn't get into home launcher :crying:
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After a reboot it works fine and internal memory is filled
game works very smoothly tested on shadow fight 2
ram consumption is awsome
drawback is internal storage is fulled my optimising
Noed said:
There's any way to detect if ART is in use?
I changed to art in developer options but after the boot the setting was back to Dalvik.
Then I noticed the lib didn't change in build.prop and edited it manually to use libart.so... After boot I don't see any difference.
There's anything else I can do to manually change to art?
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Facing the same problem , tried many times still in dalvik ....did u made it run in art time ?
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sham4u2sam said:
Facing the same problem , tried many times still in dalvik ....did u made it run in art time ?
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Do you have Xposed framework installed? If you've then you cannot switch to ART.
You should have atleast 1.2GB free internal memory & using ART you cannot move apps to SD card
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Do you have Xposed framework installed? If you've then you cannot switch to ART.
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Managed to get Art after uninstalling Xposed modules..... Thanks... Xposed modules won't work in ART ? Did somebody tried ?
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Managed to get Art after uninstalling Xposed modules..... Thanks... Xposed modules won't work in ART ? Did somebody tried ?
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Xposed doesn't support ART as of now.
It will ,once Android L is officially released, until then you have to use Dalvik if you have Xposed installed.
Related
Ok I thought I would start a page for everyone trying out the new beloved ICS alpha roms to talk. This way the developers can work and their pages stay clean.
I have installed the latest preview 1 plus the zip labled as hardware acceleration. plus the inivisable tweaks. This thing is running like a champ now. the keyboard is responsive. I turned off the animations and forced the 2d gpu settings. I also have v6 supercharger installed. Been running for almost 4 hours without any random reboots. 3d games will suck but the 2d ones are running good.
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Preview 4
What I have found that works
sms
wifi
1x
3g
Bluetooth
calls
gallery
hardware acceleration
gps
sound
moms
headphones
What does not work or work correctly
camera
4g (not that it will ever work for me Cricket does not support it)
this is all I have had time to test.
I would like to thank all the developers for all their had work. This is great so far!!
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Seems like people keep having hissy fits in the development thread.
But anyway, I'm excited to get proper HA and headphone port fixed, when that happens, this will be my daily.
I use Netflix too often to live without using headphones.
There's been great progress so far though. I popped over the Epic 4G Touch thread and they're nowhere near as close to getting a workable ICS like we are, just makes me happy I didn't upgrade to the Touch, I was very close to it.
man i posted a long post pertaining to getting email to properly work on the preview in the thread where they were ranting about the ics thread being locked and a min later the thread is gone ha should have copied it to a .txt document... o well ill write it out again
aside from everything already listed as working or not working..
market now lets you download and install which didnt work in A5
I had issues getting my exchange server at work and my phone to work.
The process i went through to get this to work was:
reboot into recovery
wipe data/reset to factory
wipe cache partition
wipe dalvik cache
Flash ROM
Flash hw_eccel
Flash uninvisibletweaks
Reboot phone
Then i setup all the incoming server configuration settings and connected finally everything is syncing
Rebooted into recovery
Flashed GAPPS for ICS
Rebooted and was good to go
On my second day of daily use and cannot believe how well this is running. No reboots. My only dislike is the lack of buttons in the notification bar. I can't wait for a beta version to be released. Having the camera working would be awesome. I want the lock screen that recognizes my face! That would be super cool.
Evo 4g on Cricket.
anybody having issues getting the home key to work? when i flashed a4 for the first time, i didnt have it working, then after a i wiped it and tried a few times i got it working...now on the latest update i havent been able to get it to work no matter how many times i try
I have had no issues with it so far, but as we know not all evos are created equal. The next release is due out later tonight or tomorrow. Headphones will be working along with a few other things. They are testing a new kernel. Will post more as it becomes available. Till then have fun with your new play toy!
Evo 4g on Cricket.
Preview 3 ics is out. Headphones now working and hardware acceleration is a go!
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I've been running Preview 3 all day, pretty awesome, way faster than all the previous releases
Well I just got preview 3 installed and must say it is great! Although I was wrong about the headphones they still don't work but the gallery does. Preview 4 is scheduled to be released tonight and headphones and mms is claimed to be fixed.
ICS evo 4g on cricket
Preview 4 got released earlier, can't try it right not but might later, btw, the download links are here: http://infectedrom.com/showthread.php/632-EVO-4g-Ice-Cream-Sandwich-from-source
Seems headphones are fixed, i still can't wait for proper HA to be implemented though, but the development has been going very speedy.
I have installed preview 4. Gallery is working along with the headphones. I had some issues with the browser closing immediately after opening but a couple of reboots later and it worked fine. Also a few display anomalies in landscape view but nothing consistent. Google is now syncing my apps. Still no camera yet but its on the way soon. Mms will send and receive! 3d games I use are working but are little bit slow yet usable. Newest version of script manager does work and so does v6 supercharger.
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I can confirm that if you wipe Cache and Dalvik Cache, you can flash P4 over P3 with no ill effects.
Preview 4 is good enough that I am now using it as a daily rom. But it has some weird issues, like after awhile apps won't open. They open then close right away, like the browser problem in the post above me. Hmm...ctually it may be that I have to close some apps from the multitask menu. I just thought about that idea. lol.
And the screen has a hard time coming on. But besides the obvious it's working great.
Did a benchmark test on this rom and it is right in line with the scores I got using cm7.
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I have v6 supercharger installed but have not installed the unvisabletweaks.zip on preview 4 yet.
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Ive been running the ICS P4 since last night and am loving it! Its butter smooth and I've only ran into a few snags. The primary being my home button isn't working and neither is flash. I'll try reflashing to see if i cant get the home button to work. These guys have done some amazing work! (Post 1 of 10, damn developers restriction)
Im having some problems with my ICS flash. The phone is flashed fine, did a minimal data, cache, & dalvik cache wipe but when flashed & running the menus a laggish on mine. But when loaded into an app it runs quickly. My market is all jacked up not allowing me to download some things, as i know some apps arent compatible. Help?
Second day on preview 4 with only one reboot. While using the xda app it froze and rebooted. Most of my apps work but I had to update a few to get them working. My gps is good within 15 ft. No sluggish menus but I also did a full wipe of everything. Market downloads have also not been an issue for me either. I am using the gapps listed as preferred. On the ics keyboard I can't get all caps to stay on, but I use SwiftKey X so it is not even a issue for me. Last night I flashed unvisable tweaks and only made about 3 point difference on the benchmark.
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Well just did a full factory wipe then a data wipe & all that biz & got the rom flashed with everything else & the rom is working absolutely awesome! Got no complaints besides my messages not going out if they exceed a certain character limit... Wonder whats wrong? Any fixes?
jlmancuso said:
Did a benchmark test on this rom and it is right in line with the scores I got using cm7.
I have v6 supercharger installed but have not installed the unvisabletweaks.zip on preview 4 yet.
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Btw jlmancuso how do you get the v6 script running on your phone? I got the zip file but it doesnt install says it needs update.txt or something like that.
Vulcan001 make sure you have the newest script manager installed and supercharger update 9.
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Stuff you may not have noticed in the new update:
Overview:
Sammobile have leaked Samsung's 4.1.2 update for the Galaxy SII today, it's a long awaited updated that, in my opinion, has completely changed the phone. I was disappointed when Ice Cream Sandwich was released as it appeared Samsung had put minimal effort into the update, the UI felt outdated and I personally preferred running CM9. For the first time since Gingerbread I am absolutely in love with the Samsung's stock ROM!
Whether it was Samsung's choice or one of Apple's stupid patents the entire UI for the SII, Note and some other devices have got the new Nature UX found first on the SIII. Most noticeably the TW Launcher, notification bar and title bar layout has been changed, but overall the entire OS looks much fresher and cleaner. I have personally not encountered any lag in this leak and it appears Project Butter is working fine, there are a few blips here and there such as lock screen lag/unresponsiveness. Without a doubt this is the smoothest my SII has been since I first bought it and it feels brand new again!
** Of course this is test firmware and is not recommended for daily use **
Some features you may not know about:
Vibration Patterns:
Under settings > sound > device vibration you'll find this menu, here you can change the vibration pattern of the phone.
If the presets aren't right for you, you can create your own custom ones by clicking on create under the above menu.
Changing the lock screen shortcuts
To change these go to settings > lock screen > lock screen options > shortcuts.
Hold your finger down on the preset icons and drag the old ones to the trash, click on the + sign to add your own.
Adding Facebook to the lock screen:
First you must have Facebook installed and you must be logged in.
To activate it navigate to settings > lock screen > lock screen options > information ticker > contents type > Facebook
You may need to refresh on the lock screen its self.
Personalising the Messaging App:
Open up the Messaging app, press menu and select settings - here you'll find a few settings.
Bubble style:
Background style:
Dropbox:
Samsung have kindly teamed up with Dropbox to give us 50GB of free storage. This would cost you a fair bit to buy so take it up even if you aren't a user, it's a really useful cloud app. I'm sure you're greeted with it during first boot, if not it can be added as an account under the settings menu.
Quick access to the camera:
This is activated under settings > lock screen > lock screen options > camera quick access
I can't post a screenshot as I don't have enough hands... At the lock screen, place one finger on the screen and rotate the camera 90 degrees to launch the camera.
Did Samsung forget the ripple lock feature?!
No, they did not. I'm sure it will be included by default several releases down the line but remember this is test firmware. I can't stand 240dpi, so the first thing I did was change to a lower one - 180. Once rebooted the ripple lock worked! If I have some free time this week I shall make a multi dpi TW Launcher and dialer as everything else appears to work without modification.
Would I recommend it?
To put it bluntly, yes! I've been using it for a few hours with no problems what so ever, of course if you want to protect your warranty do not. You do risk bricking your phone and starting World War III, so do so with caution. I'm sure all of you Gingerbread lovers will enjoy this too!
Hopefully some of you found this helpful, thanks!
I just want to thank you for having a *CLEAN* thread (formatting, screenies, English quality).
There's a gazillion of threads here that hurt my eyes to look at.
I'll thank you once again, once you do get those multi-dpi phone and twlauncher. Also, the messaging apk is also a bit strange under 160dpi.
I havent tried 160 yet, will have a look into it
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NIce thread! What about Smart Stay?
Smart stay is there, and so is popup play!
How do you change dpi?
Also did you see how when you plug in headphones you get quick launch icons for your media apps in the notification panel.
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Er sammobile dint get it first == a xda member did...
so how do you change teh DPI and why would you change it?
whats the difference?
also you forgott about Allshare Play
thats the biggest thing that have ever happend to the S2
For me stock browser crashes if i try 180 dpi, 160 and 240 works fine.
Also The clock crashes for me eveytime i try to turn og an alarm both at 240 and 160 dpi.
Am I the only one having this problems? If not do you know if it can be fixed like the dailer?
Just wanted to point out that other than that it works awesome for me.
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May I know if we still have 2GB position on internal storage? Our we have one large storage in one go?
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mobilio said:
May I know if we still have 2GB position on internal storage? Our we have one large storage in one go?
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Still have the internal 2GB separate from the rest.
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Did any one notice 'Sound Alive' and the Music Square in the music player? We don't need any Beats mods any more... Sound Alive really shows the power of this underestimated Yamaha DAC!
I'm an audiophile so it matters to me
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jj_95nano said:
Did any one notice 'Sound Alive' and the Music Square in the music player? We don't need any Beats mods any more... Sound Alive really shows the power of this underestimated Yamaha DAC!
I'm an audiophile so it matters to me
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I'm an audiophile myself and when i first experimented with this rom, i was fascinated by sound alive. So awesome...
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what?
they not adding multi window to s2? they added multi window and other cool note 2 features to s3 in leaked update
So ripple lock can be enabled by a mod? I think we'll get in the next leak
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Can someone explain in settings "Cloud"?
I have not signed into Samsung yet, so I'm curious what this cloud does, what we can use it for compared to Dropbox, and how much storage is there.
Thanks...
OP, change the credits to izap and not sammobile! This time they did not leak the firmware! Due Credits
Damienoid said:
Can someone explain in settings "Cloud"?
I have not signed into Samsung yet, so I'm curious what this cloud does, what we can use it for compared to Dropbox, and how much storage is there.
Thanks...
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I signed in dropbox with new account and got 50gb storage.
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Ankit Tulsian said:
I signed in dropbox with new account and got 50gb storage.
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Yes I got that too, but there is another 'cloud" setting in settings, I was just wondering if you use this to back up Samsung settings or whatever.
using this awesome rom
i liked stock more than aokp and cm because of camera quality,and now they hav added new features..its cool
but i hav a concern..i ma using perfmon and what i observed is that cpu remains on 800mhz most of the time while using the phone(not when screen is off)..as i hav flashed stock kernel after a long time interval,its weird for me..but i dont know,may be stock kernel are designed this way only..
scrolling is also very good..but msging app has very poor scrolling...the audio quality of speakers is definitely better..video player is awesome..just loving this rom..waiting for a kernel from dorimanx or Gm..but they need source of kernel
SO PLEASE INFORM THEM IF U HAPPEN TO KNOW ABOUT IT...thnx
As of the Official Update of Jelly Bean 4.3 has been started to Rolling out, the users who have installed started using it. So if you find any bug pls report here so Others can be saved.
As far am using it more than 24 hrs,
- Touchwiz is still bit laggy
- Few app including XDA app is getting FC
- Ram usage is high
- Battery is same
- Opening and closing of app is taking bit more time
- Still Finding
Is it worth the update or should I wait?
Stock browser with quick controls and full screen enabled doesn't hide the nav bar properly... A bug since first leak.
4.3 Consumes 1.3gb to 1.7gb ram never lower than 1gb. Same in s4. I prefer 4.1.2 its faster
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torbjorne said:
Is it worth the update or should I wait?
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Its better u can wait or Flash DN3 Rom.. but i can say this update is stable than S3 update.. less bugs..
The autobrightness is really bad
Even if I am setting it at +5 its really dim indoors as compared to 4.1.2
Really any idea how to fix it
Am I alone facing this issue
The "HealthService" starts, but I dont have the S Health app, and dont know why this service starts after reboot of the phone.
any one else with this?
akashsgpgi said:
The autobrightness is really bad
Even if I am setting it at +5 its really dim indoors as compared to 4.1.2
Really any idea how to fix it
Am I alone facing this issue
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Am using in -2 , for me its gud in indoor and in sunlight also..
With about 90 apps installed, of which BBM, WhatsApp, Vonage, LBE Security Master, Greenify, CSipSimple, Google+ and KeepScreenOn run all the time in addition to the usual stuff like TW, Messaging, GMS that runs with Android, My RAM usage with MK4 is 784MB. I don't find any lag in TW or in any of the games I play (except Ingress, of course - but that is an app issue).
I of course have rooted, disabled a bunch of stuff from loading automatically at boot, and frozen Sammy crap that I don't want or use. And no Knox.
XDA App is working perfectly fine, deep sleep seems to pretty good - lost 1% overnight after 2 recharge cycles. Auto Brightness is cranky at times - sometime stuck at lowest or brightest - but returns back to sanity after a display off-on.
Overall there is nothing new or extraordinary in the MK4 version from what we have seen in the leaks - except of course the knox status in the bootloader (I didnt care about it as am out of warranty anyways).
Haven't tried the stock browser with quick controls+full screen though, I rely on Chrome...
Xposed Framework with Wanam's module, per app dpi setting, message notification to toast, and then some more - all works great.
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My RAM usage with MK4 is 784MB.... [and then some more] - all works great.
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Can I ask, I just need some clarification: are you running a stock version or a custom ROM?
If it is the stock, which Open version are you using?
Static-Noise said:
Can I ask, I just need some clarification: are you running a stock version or a custom ROM?
If it is the stock, which Open version are you using?
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This is a stock ROM, the only changes being removing the Knox related apk and rooting. I'm not sure what you mean by open, can you explain on it?
Any of you having issues with official rom should join me in using DN3 custom rom for note 2 with a bunch of note 3 features and very few bugs.
Sent from my Note 2 using DN3 V2.
grk007 said:
As far am using it more than 24 hrs,
- Touchwiz is still bit laggy
- Few app including XDA app is getting FC
- Ram usage is high
- Battery is same
- Opening and closing of app is taking bit more time
- Still Finding
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- for me its a bit smoother than 4.1
- i haven't got any FC even on the leaked MI6
-not really
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with many apps running
-yeah battery about the same as 4.1
-i think its about the same as 4.1
Many sincere thanks for taking the time to reply.
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This is a stock ROM, the only changes being removing the Knox related apk and rooting.
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And, as much as this may seem like a stupid question, could you please show me which one you were using? I assume that you have upgraded and forfeited the "warranty void" issue for the new ROM?
ph03n!x said:
I'm not sure what you mean by open, can you explain on it?
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I meant, for example, 'Open Asia', 'Open India', 'Open Europe', etc.
Henchman007 said:
...[You]... should join me in using [DN3 custom rom]... [with] very few bugs.
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I am running that ROM at the moment, and to be honest, as much as I love it, there is still the issue with the screen off when the phone is in use, And the leg you get upon finishing the call itself.
Apart from that, is a fantastic update.
Major update but with few bugs.
When installing an app from play store, the downloading process is smooth but just when the installation is about to complete there are frame drops for a second or two and it really annoys me as a heavy play store user.
Frame drops and touchwiz!!! Brother's for life!!!
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I'm getting the odd FC, but it's very rare. I had to force a reboot twice since upgrading, but I've also been using my device like crazy and installing a lot of apps as i test this new firmware.
My only real gripe is that bringing up the multitasking list (long press home key)takes longer than before.
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Many sincere thanks for taking the time to reply.
And, as much as this may seem like a stupid question, could you please show me which one you were using? I assume that you have upgraded and forfeited the "warranty void" issue for the new ROM?
I meant, for example, 'Open Asia', 'Open India', 'Open Europe', etc.
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I upgraded to the INU ROM that got released - http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=21880 - that is open India I guess (and there is no other 4.3 official ROM released yet? At least that's what Sammobile says...)
Code:
Model: GT-N7100
Country: India
Version: Android 4.3
Changelist: 2099172
Build date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 06:00:26 +0000
Product Code: INU
PDA: N7100XXUEMK4
CSC: N7100ODDEMK1
MODEM: N7100DDEMJ9
And yes, I voided my Knox bootloader warranty - because I bought the phone from Singapore and didnt have India warranty anyway. And the phone is more than a year old too...
I see a delay in the caller number or name getting displayed when someone calls me (ringtone sounds, but screen is blank), but then that's nothing that can't be fixed with a build.prop edit.
I dont have a lag anywhere, at least nothing I can find - I have made a few tweaks to the PegasusQ parameters though (reduced freq_step from the default 37% to 5% so that all the frequencies of the CPU are used, Set the cpu_up_rate to 12 and cpu_down_rate to 16, set the hot plug frequencies to 600-400, 800-600, 1000-800 and hot plug run queues to 175-175, 275-275 and 375-375, down_differential to 10, sampling_down_factor to 1 nd sampling_rate to 30000) based on my experience with earlier stock and non-stock kernel performance.
I'm overall happy about the update, though we could have been shown some more love from the S4 / Note3 devices
Clipboard options have been removed and multiwindow isn't working.
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are you refering to the n7105 Nordic 4.3 that release 2 days ago? can u put that in title or OP. n7100 users might get confused. (crazy cousins) think its about them......
finally LTE gets its rom date.
I had at beginning multi window issue where it was inactive but after full wipe it was fixes. Today I have an issue with keyboard as I can't switch to other languages rather than English anybody has this problem?
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OTA is out
http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/benefits-note-4-4-2-15.pdf
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This link only takes me to the vzw homepage in spanish...
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This link only takes me to the vzw homepage in spanish...
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you're not alone.. sigh :/ And I'm really happy we're finally getting it but it's a bit too late for me as I'm moving on to the S6 Edge, hopefully it gets rooted or I'll end up returning it and just going back to a Note developer edition perhaps
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This link only takes me to the vzw homepage in spanish...
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PDF opened fine here. Here's a screenie: http://imgur.com/a/Agzyc
And did we rely just get 4.4 root and lollipop in the same day? Figures. Lol.
Edit: I uploaded them in reverse order.. Sorry guys
Of course this happens as we are about to get root lol. Looks like I might hold off on the update for a couple days.
Seriously as soon as I get hyped about root coming this week (possibly) now I have to decide if I want to wait around to see how long it takes for lolipop to get rooted.
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Seriously as soon as I get hyped about root coming this week (possibly) now I have to decide if I want to wait around to see how long it takes for lolipop to get rooted.
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If his claims regarding root are accurate, he says it supports lollipop as well. Meaning that this would have to be, essentially, a 0 day exploit or leverage the USB connection dealio that got moto/LG root.
easy decision for me... I'll take root first.
Wonderful. Lollipop and root announced the same day!
Nothing in North Carolina yet.
Still nothing here in North Carolina
ugh...nothing in nj yet but do i update when i can or wait for a custom lollipop rom =/
i really do lead a tough life
Anybody able to confirm if the new Theme Engine for TWiz is included in this like it will be on the S6?
The biggest things that made me return my Note 4 were my inability to handle how ugly I found the notifications and color scheming and the bloat. If we have root (soon it sounds) and theming...I may jump back in.
Perhaps a point that the Note 4 is already great, I do not see the point in the update. My Note 4 already has good signal reception, great battery life and performance. These are knowns. The unknown is updating to Lollipop and how it behaves in regards to the things already working fine. The one known is the ART file system will result in about 3GB less overall storage space. $crew that. JMO, so hope everybody that updates is happy. Losing the storage space alone would make me not happy. Need a 64GB device with micro sd before I bother with the ART file system.
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Perhaps a point that the Note 4 is already great, I do not see the point in the update. My Note 4 already has good signal reception, great battery life and performance. These are knowns. The unknown is updating to Lollipop and how it behaves in regards to the things already working fine. The one known is the ART file system will result in about 3GB less overall storage space. $crew that. JMO, so hope everybody that updates is happy. Losing the storage space alone would make me not happy. Need a 64GB device with micro sd before I bother with the ART file system.
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I think you will be pleased with lollipop especially when root drops so it can be debloated. I've been running beanstalk based off 5.0.1 on my N4 dev-edition and it's much faster than 4.4.4. ART works great. I know TW is entirely different than CM12 but I'm sure the performance will be similar. As for extra space you are not going to get any extra useable space for file storage from removing system apps. The partition size for system will remain the same no matter how many apps are removed. Your storage space and system space are two different partitions. When 5.0 drops then development can finally pick up and will be a win for everyone.
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I think you will be pleased with lollipop especially when root drops so it can be debloated. I've been running beanstalk based off 5.0.1 on my N4 dev-edition and it's much faster than 4.4.4. ART works great. I know TW is entirely different than CM12 but I'm sure the performance will be similar. As for extra space you are not going to get any extra useable space for file storage from removing system apps. The partition size for system will remain the same no matter how many apps are removed. Your storage space and system space are two different partitions. When 5.0 drops then development can finally pick up and will be a win for everyone.
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I have been with Android since the G1 and have modded up until the Note 4. Note 4 works great already, so have no desire to bother modding the Note 4. I used to be compelled to root/mod due to performance issues. I am not at all compelled with the Note 4, since already works great. Will also pass on the update as a result
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Perhaps a point that the Note 4 is already great, I do not see the point in the update. My Note 4 already has good signal reception, great battery life and performance. These are knowns. The unknown is updating to Lollipop and how it behaves in regards to the things already working fine. The one known is the ART file system will result in about 3GB less overall storage space. $crew that. JMO, so hope everybody that updates is happy. Losing the storage space alone would make me not happy. Need a 64GB device with micro sd before I bother with the ART file system.
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ART is a runtime, not a file system. yaffs2, vfat, ntfs: these are file systems.
ART replaces the Dalvik VM that the platform runs applications on. Your file system handles reading/writing data to and from storage devices.
That being said, ART is much smoother than Dalvik's JIT compiling, so it's all a matter of preference. If you want a choppy, outdated device with hard drive space, go ahead! I have plenty of cloud storage, so performance is key to me.
Source: I manage around 1,000 VZW Note 3 & 1,800 VZQ Note 4 devices for my company.
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ART is a runtime, not a file system. yaffs2, vfat, ntfs: these are file systems.
ART replaces the Dalvik VM that the platform runs applications on. Your file system handles reading/writing data to and from storage devices.
That being said, ART is much smoother than Dalvik's JIT compiling, so it's all a matter of preference. If you want a choppy, outdated device with hard drive space, go ahead! I have plenty of cloud storage, so performance is key to me.
Source: I manage around 1,000 VZW Note 3 & 1,800 VZQ Note 4 devices for my company.
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You're misunderstanding his point. ART uses more storage space because it saves the compiled package from the apk on the NAND, and that is bigger than the apk. I don't know where he got the 3gb figure from, but ART will always take up more space than the same phone/software with DALVIK as the runtime.
Not up for me yet
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Perhaps a point that the Note 4 is already great, I do not see the point in the update. My Note 4 already has good signal reception, great battery life and performance. These are knowns. The unknown is updating to Lollipop and how it behaves in regards to the things already working fine. The one known is the ART file system will result in about 3GB less overall storage space. $crew that. JMO, so hope everybody that updates is happy. Losing the storage space alone would make me not happy. Need a 64GB device with micro sd before I bother with the ART file system.
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You're probably missing out on some pretty important security updates too, but whatever floats your boat. This thread is probably not the place for you.
I'm seriously looking foreward to lollipop on my note 4. My note felt much faster than my old nexus 7 2013 tablet, until it got lollipop. ..after it got that, I stared using the tablet more often at home, because it out performed my note 4, which was only a month or so old!
I'm expecting to see the same performance gain on my note 4 once we get lollipop.
I'll root, but only so I can finally install an ad blocker. As far as storage space, I've got a 32gb sd card, and I can always replace that with up to a128gb sd card. I couldn't care much at all about losing a little space in the phone itself, and lollipop with fix the external app sd card access, making the SD card much more functional.
Hi guys i have just sideloaded OTA to my nexus 9. It seems to consume quite a lot of memory. when i first booted it was using 1.7-1.8gb.
I closed all the apps by swiping on the task switcher and got to 1.5gb as below
Could anyone who have been recently clean flashed tell me how much memory their device is using?
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That seems to be the norm based on my experience, even back on the previews.
I don't think there's much we can do. I uninstalled Facebook as it was the main culprit, but other apps just picked up the slack.
Google was dead wrong not giving this device 3 GB for the price we paid.
Same here
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Android OS seems to use a lot more than on nexus 5!
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Really, really disappointed from day 1, worst battery life, insufficient ram, laggy here and there, memory leaks and redraws, black smudges on white screen while scrolling, this is my second replacement, and Android 6.0 which I had I hopes for fixing the nexus 9 is even worse, I just moved back to lollipop the new build lmy48t.
I'm selling my nexus 9, I love nexus and their products, I own a nexus 5 and nexus 7, they both get more battery than the nexus 9, they are faster than the nexus 9, nor have I had a bad experiences with them, they both have 2gb ram and can open crazy tons of apps without redraws or any lock ups, $610 AU dollars in the trash, buying either a new nexus 7 2013 or a Samsung tab s2. Don't say oh factory reset, bro I've tried all ROMs, ive done 1000s of factory resets and this crap ain't working with me, the only thing the nexus 9 hasn't let me down is gaming that's IT!!!, BESIDES ITS A BLOODY HEATER, 80 DEGRESS Celsius, I'll probably use this as a heater in winter.
You guys do know that's average use
Also even closing all the apps it will stay high because it's average over time
To get to the real one.
Go to developer options
Then to running services
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Really, really disappointed from day 1, worst battery life, insufficient ram, laggy here and there, memory leaks and redraws, black smudges on white screen while scrolling, this is my second replacement, and Android 6.0 which I had I hopes for fixing the nexus 9 is even worse, I just moved back to lollipop the new build lmy48t.
I'm selling my nexus 9, I love nexus and their products, I own a nexus 5 and nexus 7, they both get more battery than the nexus 9, they are faster than the nexus 9, nor have I had a bad experiences with them, they both have 2gb ram and can open crazy tons of apps without redraws or any lock ups, $610 AU dollars in the trash, buying either a new nexus 7 2013 or a Samsung tab s2. Don't say oh factory reset, bro I've tried all ROMs, ive done 1000s of factory resets and this crap ain't working with me, the only thing the nexus 9 hasn't let me down is gaming that's IT!!!, BESIDES ITS A BLOODY HEATER, 80 DEGRESS Celsius, I'll probably use this as a heater in winter.
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ok, you said this already on a thread you started!! if it was from day 1, why didn't you return it!
Used memory is a GOOD thing as long as it is releasing it when a new app requests it. Why have RAM sitting around unused when it can be used for helping the OS/apps run faster?
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Used memory is a GOOD thing as long as it is releasing it when a new app requests it. Why have RAM sitting around unused when it can be used for helping the OS/apps run faster?
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The ram usage is for a base system, the absolute minimum for the Google software stack to run. There is basically no more ram left for any other applications without paging out essential processes. Hence the home screen redraws, background media being killed, redraws on tab switching in chrome, lag on application start up. 2gb is simply not enough for a 64bit android environment.
I have 1.3GB Used, 21 in memory in the last 3hrs. No problems so far. I also have HW rendering turned on not software, that may help some too.
Here is another data point. Been running 6 for about 5 days, no problems at all. Bone stock, unrooted/unlocked.
Mine too guys. Clean installation and always 1.5-1.6 ram used in idle. Hopefully in the future this will change.
Best advice I can give... Use Fire-Ice kernel.
Use zram at about 200mb. And activate KSM.
KSM will save you at least 300mb (it did for me), while zram will make sure that you still have a bit of extra RAM for ram intensive apps, like chrome.
Update:
I'm currently sitting at 1.3GB and I have not closed any of my extra applications.
Between Android OS, System UI, Android System and Launcher3 I'm using 1026MB.
This is not that bad
If you have background apps which are consuming a lot of memory even though you're not using them.
Use greenify to keep them closed, this will keep memory free for apps you actually use.
This managed to keep me afloat when it was still on Lollipop with its damned memory leaks. Im pretty sure it can handle MM.
device slows to a crawl......to the point i can't even unlock the device without waiting 10-15 seconds for it to respond. Marshmallow on Nexus 9 is not good....
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device slows to a crawl......to the point i can't even unlock the device without waiting 10-15 seconds for it to respond. Marshmallow on Nexus 9 is not good....
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I'm on marshmallow and my N9 is faster than when it was on lollipop. Battery life is better.
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rogerchew said:
device slows to a crawl......to the point i can't even unlock the device without waiting 10-15 seconds for it to respond. Marshmallow on Nexus 9 is not good....
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Do a factory data resrt. That should help quite a bit.
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Does nobody think that the differing experiences are not due to hardware/Marshmallow but to errors in the coding of apps used? Google has extensive documentation on app coding and memory performance diagnostics - start here http://developer.android.com/training/articles/memory.html
Mine is around 1.6GB running on stock Marshmallow.
Grinds to a halt at times, so frustrating!
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Mine is around 1.6GB running on stock Marshmallow.
Grinds to a halt at times, so frustrating!
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Read my previous post. It will help you quite a lot.
For MM most people are recommending to use a custom ROM and Kernel.
It's the same on mine. Everything works great except multitasking. It's impossible to multitask like on phones (or video reviews of Nexus 9!).
The worst is Chrome - only one tab can stay loaded, if I have two or three or more it has to reload them every time I switch a tab.
- Yesterday I clered cache and data - it works better now (usually Google's apps like gmail and drive stay loaded - Chrome still has the same problems).
Android 6.0 MRA58K