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[Q] does this thing actually not save data to the sd card?

When I install for instance a Gameloft game it downloads data to the SD card, at least in any other device. On here it seems there is a /mnt/sdcard directory but its part of the internal storage? My actual SD card is listed as /mnt/external_SD and is basically blank.
This is nuts is there any way to fix this? If I had known it does this I would not have bought only an 8 gb tab. I am running the ICS update.

GL2SD
It's the best option that I've found without symlinking... I don't know why the manufacturers have to have there own directory structures.

JdgM3NT4L said:
GL2SD
It's the best option that I've found without symlinking... I don't know why the manufacturers have to have there own directory structures.
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Seriously? I have to root this tab to make it operate the way any normal unrooted phone or tablet work? Surely this has to be a mistake or a bug in how the ICS update was set up. Also this is not just a gameloft problem, EVERY app that has data has dumped it to internal.
I was thinking what if I copied all that sd data to my card, deleted the SD directory, and then renamed my card from external_SD to SDcard. Probably won't work my luck.
A couple of people here even commented in another thread that the card I got (class 4) may affect game performance, how could it if the games don't even go to it!
As for as I know this worked fine prior to ICS....

Rogue Leader said:
Seriously? I have to root this tab to make it operate the way any normal unrooted phone or tablet work? Surely this has to be a mistake or a bug in how the ICS update was set up. Also this is not just a gameloft problem, EVERY app that has data has dumped it to internal.
I was thinking what if I copied all that sd data to my card, deleted the SD directory, and then renamed my card from external_SD to SDcard. Probably won't work my luck.
A couple of people here even commented in another thread that the card I got (class 4) may affect game performance, how could it if the games don't even go to it!
As for as I know this worked fine prior to ICS....
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If your trying to Move the 300+ mb for the game to your external_sd card and its only a class 4 im willing to bet it would suffer playback issues and more lag than normal since class 4 is on the slower side of things :-\ apps to sd might help solve some of your problems not sure though...

Rogue Leader said:
Seriously? I have to root this tab to make it operate the way any normal unrooted phone or tablet work? Surely this has to be a mistake or a bug in how the ICS update was set up. Also this is not just a gameloft problem, EVERY app that has data has dumped it to internal.
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Seeing that you have a nook color all cm'd out and stuff, I am wondering why you are reluctant to cram a nice rom on that sucker and be done with it. My games play, my data goes to my external sd card, and I can overclock. Plus the acer ring is pretty sweet. The new tools and stuff make it way easier than the nook was a year ago.
It's either that or dump the tab bro. You don't seem to be having any fun...

gears177 said:
If your trying to Move the 300+ mb for the game to your external_sd card and its only a class 4 im willing to bet it would suffer playback issues and more lag than normal since class 4 is on the slower side of things :-\ apps to sd might help solve some of your problems not sure though...
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Unfortunately App2SD doesn't work, its for moving the apk to the SD card. Class 4 cards are fine, and the go-to card on my phone for example, which is far slower than the A500 but plays games (like Modern Combat 3) fine with no lag at all. Class 6 is about as fast as you can go as the classes higher than that are made for digital cameras and don't work as well for all I/O operations.
I'm looking for just the game install data to be on there, I'm ok with the physical apks not moving. But it doesn't seem to do that. I find it bizzare that there is a mnt/sdcard directory and yet its on internal memory. Een if I download stuff my download directory points to mnt/sdcard/download instead of mnt/external_SD.
JdgM3NT4L said:
Seeing that you have a nook color all cm'd out and stuff, I am wondering why you are reluctant to cram a nice rom on that sucker and be done with it. My games play, my data goes to my external sd card, and I can overclock. Plus the acer ring is pretty sweet. The new tools and stuff make it way easier than the nook was a year ago.
It's either that or dump the tab bro. You don't seem to be having any fun...
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Other than this issue I really do love it. Its very fast and seems to work great as is. If this issue was cured I would be perfectly happy with it as-is (although HD youtube playback can be crappy at times, but I don't really watch much youtube anyway).
If I have to I'll go ahead and root it, but It just bothers me that I bought this as new and it has this issue, that I'd rather just fix. Kinda helps to perpetuate the cycle of Android being more complicated than it should be.
So is there any way to have the A500 use the SD card the way any normal non-rooted phone or tab would? It seemed like it worked right on HC, but isn't working right on ICS. Maybe a factory reset and starting over with the SD card in from the start?

Where you been????? This is not an A500 problem, this is an Android Tablet problem. Ever since Google introduced Honeycomb the micro sdcard was taken out of the primary storage loop. That is why phones were never released with HC. Why Google went this route who knows but your sdcard is basically now a media storage card and what not. Games and most apps can't take advantage of it for storage unless you root it and go through a series of hacks. And all those do is disable the internal memory in favor of the sdcard. It really sucks, but an 8gb tablet is worthless. I returned mine and got a 32gb. Everyone hoped that ICS would change this but it didn't.

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Where you been????? This is not an A500 problem, this is an Android Tablet problem. Ever since Google introduced Honeycomb the micro sdcard was taken out of the primary storage loop. That is why phones were never released with HC. Why Google went this route who knows but your sdcard is basically now a media storage card and what not. Games and most apps can't take advantage of it for storage unless you root it and go through a series of hacks. And all those do is disable the internal memory in favor of the sdcard. It really sucks, but an 8gb tablet is worthless. I returned mine and got a 32gb. Everyone hoped that ICS would change this but it didn't.
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can you just get a file explorer and move the data yourself?
there was also a soft modding tut to make the external the primary download spot and appear as the internal.

That is one of the mods you can try, my response was to the original OP bashing the A500 for this. I was trying to point out that this is not an A500 problem but an Android tablet problem with HC or ICS. Google should have made the internal memory just, that instead of calling it the sdcard. Forcing the actual sdcard to be called the external sdcard. This is where the problem lies, non of the developers of apps offer an option to save data to an external sdcard since that implies the sdcard will be removed and the app won't have it available.
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My phone (g2x) came set up like this too. Makes no sense. There are work arounds but IMO the best solution is to flash it with a better ROM. It solved the problem and gave me a better all around experience on both phone and tablet.
I know it sucks that you have to "fix" a new tablet...but honestly for me the customization is one of the great pluses of Android. Just my opinion.

cruise350 said:
Where you been????? This is not an A500 problem, this is an Android Tablet problem. Ever since Google introduced Honeycomb the micro sdcard was taken out of the primary storage loop. That is why phones were never released with HC. Why Google went this route who knows but your sdcard is basically now a media storage card and what not. Games and most apps can't take advantage of it for storage unless you root it and go through a series of hacks. And all those do is disable the internal memory in favor of the sdcard. It really sucks, but an 8gb tablet is worthless. I returned mine and got a 32gb. Everyone hoped that ICS would change this but it didn't.
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Ok finally, this makes sense (well it doesn't because it should just work right, but....). Does stock ICS behave this way on phones too? Aside from a beta of HC on my nook color, the highest version of Android I've used was 2.3.7 which I have now on my nook, so I was unaware of this.
Unfortunately mine is non returnable, I got it on eBay refurb from Acer. It was cheap, and honestly not completely useless with only 8gb, I just won't have much in the way of games. But in reality I play 99% of my games on my Xperia PLAY since thats what it was designed for. I would maybe have gone ahead and tried to set up a game controller on my A500, but now I'll just resolve to having to watch whats on there or.....
gears177 said:
can you just get a file explorer and move the data yourself?
there was also a soft modding tut to make the external the primary download spot and appear as the internal.
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Got a link to this?
bdkinney said:
My phone (g2x) came set up like this too. Makes no sense. There are work arounds but IMO the best solution is to flash it with a better ROM. It solved the problem and gave me a better all around experience on both phone and tablet.
I know it sucks that you have to "fix" a new tablet...but honestly for me the customization is one of the great pluses of Android. Just my opinion.
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Thats ridiculous as well. This partially eliminates one of the primary advantages of Android over iOS.
That said yes its nice to be able to customize of course, and I may end up just rooting it and using a custom rom. But theres always tradeoffs with that, and stock it works perfect except for this obviously inherent issue. Every GB rom I've used always had the occasional glitch here or there, where stock ones nailed it every time. Not to knock our devs out there, but in this case I have my nook and phone to screw with if I want to, I was hoping this would just work as is.

gears177 said:
can you just get a file explorer and move the data yourself?
there was also a soft modding tut to make the external the primary download spot and appear as the internal.
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Got a link to this?
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Anyone? Bueller?

Rogue Leader said:
Anyone? Bueller?
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from what i understand though only works on honeycomb as of now so you might have to rollback if you really want it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445720
totally reversible too

gears177 said:
from what i understand though only works on honeycomb as of now so you might have to rollback if you really want it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445720
totally reversible too
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Cool thanks

dont want to bring up old things but class 10 micro sdcards are actually preferred for smartphones and tablets was browsin walmart when i saw this hahaha...
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gears177 said:
dont want to bring up old things but class 10 micro sdcards are actually preferred for smartphones and tablets was browsin walmart when i saw this hahaha...
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No they definitely aren't. I don't have the link offhand, but Class 10 cards are good for taking video and pictures in cameras, but their I/O speeds are not as good as lower classes. There have been tons of tests on other forums on this site to confirm it.

Rogue Leader said:
No they definitely aren't. I don't have the link offhand, but Class 10 cards are good for taking video and pictures in cameras, but their I/O speeds are not as good as lower classes. There have been tons of tests on other forums on this site to confirm it.
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Are you saying wall-mart the all powerful money eater of America with their billions of products and customers would ever be wrong.......
correct me if I'm wrong doesn't the class refer to the write/read speed of the SD card....so playing HD video would be quicker and moving files from computer to tablet would be quicker.
so using a class ten card would be beneficial over a class 4 card?(just saying might be wrong)
these micro sd cards are said to be "perfect" for a smartphone all class ten.
http://m.staples.com/mt/www.staples...DHC-Class-10-Flash-Memory-Card/product_366335
http://pocketnow.com/phones/samsung...sd-card-for-smartphones?wpmp_switcher=desktop
Actual testing of a class 4 class 6 and class 10
http://blog.whitesites.com/microSDH...-Class-6-Class-2__634469748755468750_blog.htm

Luv my note BUT things I hate (compared to iphone)

Luv the screen pen etc.
But samsung upgrade policy is archaic to say the least. I'm still waiting nearly a month since the german version has been released. At least give us the dates ...and what excuse could there be mines unlocked.and I dont really want to root it and lose the warranty.how come apple can update millions more in a single day ..come on samsung
Kies software is a joke up to five hours to back up and then it doesn't restore ( on the web thousands of people have the same problem.
Why can't I back up my phole phone inc memry card easily and fast.
Still not found a soft app for a keybourd as good as the iphone re spell check etc.
Just my thoughts I would luv another brand with the pen etc.
It seems samsung looks after new customers only.
Just my thoughts
I have no loyaty to samsung
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magichoward said:
Luv the screen pen etc.
But samsung upgrade policy is archaic to say the least. I'm still waiting nearly a month since the german version has been released. At least give us the dates ...and what excuse could there be mines unlocked.and I dont really want to root it and lose the warranty.how come apple can update millions more in a single day ..come on samsung
Kies software is a joke up to five hours to back up and then it doesn't restore ( on the web thousands of people have the same problem.
Why can't I back up my phole phone inc memry card easily and fast.
Still not found a soft app for a keybourd as good as the iphone re spell check etc.
Just my thoughts I would luv another brand with the pen etc.
It seems samsung looks after new customers only.
Just my thoughts
I have no loyaty to samsung
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Sounds like you shoulda stuck with the iphone, I don't see what benefits you would have coming over to android if you're not prepared to root and try ROMs, yes samsung is a joke, but I can honestly say I have never regretted leaving iOS for android once.........except when the phone hangs during A PHONE CALL!!!! you know the thing it was actually made for - making and receiving phone calls, Not a regular occurrence I must admit but quite an ironic defect of many new ROMs I've tried in the past, LOL

magichoward said:
Luv the screen pen etc.
But samsung upgrade policy is archaic to say the least. I'm still waiting nearly a month since the german version has been released. At least give us the dates ...and what excuse could there be mines unlocked.and I dont really want to root it and lose the warranty.how come apple can update millions more in a single day ..come on samsung
Kies software is a joke up to five hours to back up and then it doesn't restore ( on the web thousands of people have the same problem.
Why can't I back up my phole phone inc memry card easily and fast.
Still not found a soft app for a keybourd as good as the iphone re spell check etc.
Just my thoughts I would luv another brand with the pen etc.
It seems samsung looks after new customers only.
Just my thoughts
I have no loyaty to samsung
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Plug your phone into a computer like you are used to and get your update.
Apple can update in a day because there are very few models.
Boot into recovery to back up to phone.
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You don't need to be rooted to use PC Odin to install the latest official ROM.
There are great keyboards out there...instead of just one on the iPhone. Look at Thumb Keyboard or Swiftkey. There is even an iPhone keyboard...gasp.
And since you don't want to root (you can unroot for warranty purposes and Samsung is none the wiser....) checkout MyBackup Pro in the market.

Samsung - a joke as a company?!?! Do us a favor and never, ever buy a Motorola phone. If you are going ballistic over a Galaxy, you'll kill yourself with a Droid...

you can just copy all the files from your sd to your computer very very very easily using a usb cable, have you never used a computer before? Or alternatively download dropbox and use that to back up your phone. Little bit of research about how android works might actually benefit you. About the updates, if you wanna get all the amazing features of android compared to iphone, you'll have to put up with the update schedules, but updates don't really matter on android you still have more functions that ios.

Wow ... cool it guys. OP is simply used to the apple way of doing things. Give him some time to explore the wonderful world of Android iam sure he'll start to love it.
OP please google a bit or check the play store you will find the solutions for all your complaints.
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I just checked your other posts, almost all of it is about Samsung not updating the note to ics.
Why do you want the stock ics so badly ?
Do you honestly believe that ics will solve all your problems magically?
Believe me stock ics is a can of worms that is better left unopened . (personal opinion pls don't flame me guys )
but If you are so desperate please flash any custom roms which suits your needs, I recommend paranoid

Just to add, since i got my note i have had to firmware updates. One to 2.3.6 and then the 4.0.3 update. This is since April. Now you tell me of any iphone that has had 2 updates in that timeframe. (including major updates like ics )....
And apple can update easier as in total there are only 5 phone's ,of which only a couple of model get the update. Think his many different droids there are!
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magichoward said:
a keybourd as good as the iphone re spell check etc.
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Please tell me you're having a laugh.... Have you never been on http://www.damnyouautocorrect.com/ ?

i wanted new set of icons....with flashy colours...i just installed a ROM....and my friend has an iphone and he wanted to change the icons too....o]h wait...you can only change WALLPAPERS in that... thats AWESOME

ACTUALLY I have the Note and I have never rooted. I don't find it necessary. I have an application called Folder Sync, and what it does is it backs up my files every night (especially camera files, but you can set it up to your entire SD card) to Dropbox or SugarSync, it has a lot of options for providers. The benefit is that you don't manually need to connect to a computer or anything. You will always have your files synced up. I even have it so when I delete a file off of the server or my computer, it'll be reflected as well on the phone. I hated having to have to connect my phone to my computer every time I wanted to update a folder, sync something, or download something. Every night my phone waits until 4AM, plugged in and has wifi on to sync my 32 gig SD card with its content.
As for the keyboard, it might take you some time to, you know, actually get used to a normal keyboard. Apple had good autocorrect. But I'd rather take the more accurate typing space on the Note over the iPhone's smart predictive text. Apart from that, I have AutoText Replacements which means I can type ty and thank you will come out. I have "putmail" and my mailing address comes out. This is really helpful, and it can't be done on the iPhone, but yes on Android. Try Ultra Keyboard, that's what I use. Tons of themes, settings and it's fairly intuitive.
There are a lot of benefits to Android. If you're just angry about ICS not out yet in your region, I'm sorry, but many times it doesn't only depend on Samsung. It depends also on the carriers, which most bend over backwards for Apple only because they're what's hot and hip right now.
I'd say that if you're easily frustrated, stick to iOS. If you like to tinker a little, stay with Android. The possibilities are endless with apps and configurations.
Once again, I don't root because I think Android is open enough the way it is. You can download an original rom and install it without voiding your warranty, using PC Odin.
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Ultra Keyboard link

This is as close as Im getting to a rotten Apple
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zkyevolved said:
Every night my phone waits until 4AM, plugged in and has wifi on to sync my 32 gig SD card with its content.
Once again, I don't root because I think Android is open enough the way it is. You can download an original rom and install it without voiding your warranty, using PC Odin.
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This won't give you full peace of mind compare to Rooted.
Agree, If you are noob then should avoid from custom things and playing of different mods.
There is nothing wrong to have rooted Note with rest of completely stock.
Here are some must reason to root (for me)
- Backup you are creating is just additional data, you can get it again once you have application installed on device. And this data is having rare chance to get delete. even you format(hard reset) this data still survives. Only thing which is better to have is backup of Camera (DCMI folder) which you can't get(here folder sync really need). But i do save it on ext memory card, so in case of anything goe wrong still it will escape.
Now if you are rooted, then you can schedule your backup tottaly different way. Like my system stuff backup will start three days of weeks at 4AM, which backup my contacts, SMSs or watever sytem data.
And rest of three days it backup all newer installed application + data (here you will get app + setting, after restoring even you don't need to enter credential, OR won't lose levels you have completed in games)
- What I need is google Maps, In my country still google don't providing me navigation (just direction), but with moded Map I can get it. And yes root is needed for that.
-Remove lots of bloatware from stock system
-Stoping unnecessary auto starting application on boot.
Reagarding warranty, anytime you can just flash stock ROM with PC Odin and your root will erase and you get warranty back

KitKat update worth the headache?

Just hoping for some user experience on stock kitkat vs custom .
Currently using Free Xperia 302 based on CM 10 JB 4.3, I cant find a single thing wrong with this rom. It's very fast and stable, GPS, camera and netflix working great!
Should I update, is the os as smooth as JB 4.3 cm build? I would imagine it would not because it is not ASOP. But is it that different in speed?

I personally don't see much of an advantage and you're probably getting great or better performance already. I guess some points come to mind:
Pros
-Small Apps will return with stock
-I like the Sony UI
-I don't know if you've installed a compatible IR blaster with your custom rom but if not you'll get that functionality back with stock.
Cons
-SD card permission problem (but I guess you'll still root)
-Apparently there is a battery drain issue with Google Play Services on 4.4 (and opting out of interest based ads in the settings is supposed to help)

Thanks, I'm not upgrading. Cheers!
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Just posted this in another thread; pretty happy ATM thought I'd share
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And will always be. Nightlies doesn't mean unstable. Each omni nightlies are daily drivers, rest assured about that [emoji6]
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Thanks for recommending this ROM: installed it last night and wow! Installed
omni-4.4.3-20140614-pollux_windy-NIGHTLY.zip
Its flawless! Games look better and game frame rates are higher I'm coming from CM 4.3.3
All hardware works; GPS, Camera, etc. Netflix too. I uninstalled DSP manager and replaced with Viper4android. So awesome!! KitKat 4.4.3; it is so buttery smooth and stable; no crashes of FC.I recommend everyone at least try this build; its money! I'm so glad I didn't upgrade to official Sony Kitkat ROM and that I saw you post. Definitely will be sending a donation tithes guys for doing such a good job. This will be my new rail driver.
Omni awesome!
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Warning no!!!! Do never upgrade to kitkat!!!!! (BAD MISTAKE TO DO THAT!!!!!)
http://source.android.com/devices/tech/storage/ said:
The WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE-permission must only grant write access to the primary external storage on a device. Apps must not be allowed to write to secondary external storage devices, except in their package-specific directories as allowed by synthesized permissions. Restricting writes in this way ensures the system can clean up files when applications are uninstalled.
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Well, you see, this is just one of the BIG KK-Disadvantage.
So Upgrading to KitKat is a QuiteVERY BIG AND BAD DISASTER! A horribly bad mistake that many people (incl. my self) trap into!
If you install CameraMX for example, make videos and photo-recordings etc. then let's see what will happen, if you deinstall/uninstall it...!
Android 4.3.1/Lower: All Recordings will stay. Only the app itself is deleted. Even on the External Storage you'll keep them all.
But since 4.4.0, your recordings will all be erased forever.
Thank you Microsoft to introdûce MTP just for Zune Player. A good alternative to Mass-Storage. No access to File System=Inrecoverible!
And if your BootLoader is Locked, the „Factory_Data-Reset“ will WIPE, SAFE DELETE OFF ALL FILES so that the recoverage-chance would be absuloutelý dead!
But: If MTP would not be there, maybe GooGLE would have made something even worse!
Google has done every version very well. But since KitKat, theý, the Programmers and Android-Enginierrs did actually ruin it all!
Well done, Google! Good JOB!
Top 4 Worst KitKat-Versions:
#3 - 4.4.0
#4 - 4.4.1
#1 - 4.4.4
#2 - 4.4.3
#0 = Android 4.4.2 KitKat
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Some another KitKat-Problems:
>WiFi not stamina (Only for 4.4.2)
>Battery-problems because of task „Android·OS“ - Only 4.4(.0) and 4.4.2!
>64% of all 4.4.2 users have battery-problems with Skýpe. Google recommends you to UN - INSTALL!!! ! ! - Have i got to give a comment about Googles recommendation??? ? ?-Well..., i don't think so. So what...?
>And many other problems. If you want to know more, then ask me.
If you haven't got a XDA-Forum Account but you want to know...
Well, then just NOT UPGRADE, if you don't want to take any risk!
>New Accent-Colour (betonungsfarbe) of the Status-Bar.
>WiFi and Network-Status ↑↓ is not shown up anymore „to avoid battery and useless CPU-Usage. “
AnD THE WORST:
More and More phones START WITH KshITKAT!
The first KK-Statrer was the Nexus 5. Well, it's a Google-Phone, so it's got the newer „better“ version!
And ALL S5 Variants too! (S5 +S5Mini+Active+Sport+all others.... like LTE-A)
All new HTC One, luckily not the MAX.
Sony Xperia: Z2 and Z2 Tablet, Z3, Z3 Compact and the Z3-Tablet·ComPact!
Galaxy Tab S, Note Pro, Tab 4.
And many others too.....
Did you think that you see all the others by pressing the button (eine Schaltfläche) you'll see all other ones? Probably yes...!
Best JB-Phone: Samsung Galaxcy Note 3 - Only Upgrade to the newwest BaseBand-Version of Jelly Bean! The Galaxy Note 3 is the World's best JellyBean-Phone
A Question:
What is actually the newest baseband-version with Jelly Bean on the Note 3?
Higest-Resoulotion Jelly Bean Phone: Oppo Find 7 not 7a! - It's got a 1440p-QHD Screen - 4x Galaxy S3 Res! 2560x1440=1440p/1280x720=720p (Galaxy S3,
S5 Mini, Xperia Compacts, Htc 1 Minis(both) etc.
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ishaang said:
I personally don't see much of an advantage and you're probably getting great or better performance already. I guess some points come to mind:
Pros
-Small Apps will return with stock
-I like the Sony UI
-I don't know if you've installed a compatible IR blaster with your custom rom but if not you'll get that functionality back with stock.
Cons
-SD card permission problem (but I guess you'll still root)
-Apparently there is a battery drain issue with Google Play Services on 4.4 (and opting out of interest based ads in the settings is supposed to help)
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You can say that agian and louder!
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ishaang said:
I personally don't see much of an advantage and you're probably getting great or better performance already. I guess some points come to mind:
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Cons
-SD card permission problem (but I guess you'll still root...)
-Apparently there is a battery drain issue with GooglePlay Services on 4.4 (and opting out of interest based ads in the settings is supposed to help)
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yep, but 4.4.4 is a pretty good one, especially if fine-tuned a bit.

Rootk1t said:
yep, but 4.4.4 is a pretty good one, especially if fine-tuned a bit.
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The Note 4 has 4.4.4
But i hate 4.4.2
4.4.4 is still much better than 4.4.2.

We should be getting 5.0.2 this month or early next month, which should bring some worthwhile changes to the table.

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We should be getting 5.0.2 this month or early next month, which should bring some worthwhile changes to the table.
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For some phons, it's already there.
Sure, Nexus 5,6,9
HTC One M9
Galaxy S6
And Xperia Z4, whenever it comes out.

The Impact of Encryption

So after having a Nexus 6 and rather liking the perceived security benefits of Encryption and seeing how it all but killed the useability of the device I wanted to know what the impact is of Encryption on the S6.
Now as we know Google backed down from requiring encryption on Lollipop devices. However, with my limited findings Samsung didn't have a thing to worry about.
I ran AndroBench 2 runs back to back on a clean boot with no background applications. I am posting up the fastest of each round. (The two runs were back and forth but within 3mb of each other or so)
Stock S6 64GB - 38GB free currently. The process took about 20 minutes on a full charge.
Before - No Encryption
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Not bad at all! Looks like I will turn this on when I get mine... I will run the same tests. I ordered the 128GB and I am no expert but don't expect it to be much different than your scores. Am I reading some of that wrong... looks like some of the tests improved?
edit: I got the edge but will still report out.

jatipton said:
Not bad at all! Looks like I will turn this on when I get mine... I will run the same tests. I ordered the 128GB and I am no expert but don't expect it to be much different than your scores. Am I reading some of that wrong... looks like some of the tests improved?
edit: I got the edge but will still report out.
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Yeah I did a bunch more tests and all of them varied slightly, some faster some slower but not by much. Between them all I'd say the results equal out before and after.

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So after having a Nexus 6 and rather liking the perceived security benefits of Encryption and seeing how it all but killed the useability of the device I wanted to know what the impact is of Encryption on the S6.
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I couldnt disagree more. The lag was more related to android 5.0 vs 5.1. 5.1 with encryption vs de-encryption has no noticeable difference (and I think most people agree with me). You might see different numbers in synthetic benchmarks but real world=no difference.

The Browser speed has seemed to have halved once it was encrypted.
That seems like a BIG HIT, and a deterrent to most users.
The other applications seem to have slight delays too, but I think the Browser speed is probably the most important factor right there. I mean, it is used the most often.
I'm not sure why Google backed down from their decision, I commend Apple's stance.
Perhaps Google saw the delays and didn't want to demonstrate lag or something?

not bad !:fingers-crossed:

Nexus 6 is a disaster.

Oh cool! Another thing to waste the battery which is already poor!

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Oh cool! Another thing to waste the battery which is already poor!
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I got the best longevity yesterday after encrypting it since I have had the phone. Now if you are doing a ton of RW with big files or a lot of little ones it could have an impact, but for the normal Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Instagram it worked out perfectly.
I can honestly say there is no discernible impact to battery life.

I have to encrypt my phone for work and the htc one m8 would take a huge hit however the sgs6 so far has been great and no hick ups like i used to get with the m8.
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Out of curiosity.. Those that encrypt notice a major decrease in download speeds for 4G LTE and wifi? Also, after encrypting does your wifi hotspot for tethering still work?

So just to clarify this "encryption" your talking about is the Settings > Security > Encrypt Device? And that makes things run FASTER?

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So just to clarify this "encryption" your talking about is the Settings > Security > Encrypt Device? And that makes things run FASTER?
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There is no reason things are running faster when encrypted. What people are stating here just means that there is no performance decrease after encryption. The slightly faster results might just be random. Some parts are faster some parts are slower. But in general it seems the speed seems to be nearly equal encrypted or not.

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There is no reason things are running faster when encrypted. What people are stating here just means that there is no performance decrease after encryption. The slightly faster results might just be random. Some parts are faster some parts are slower. But in general it seems the speed seems to be nearly equal encrypted or not.
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The Exynos is ARMv8 & should have the feature set for hardware accelerated encryption (ex. AES) unlike v7 CPUs. You can keep it active without a major hit to I/O performance, so you won't have the same experience as the Nexus 6. One thing that may be of interest is whether encryption affects battery because most users probably don't need encryption...
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Hi there,
I own a Samsung Galaxy S6 32GB and had to turn on the device encryption due to security policies of the company I work for to get access to my MS Exchange mails.
After turning on the encryption I had the feeling that the battery life got worse.
To prove if this is right or wrong I started the decryption yestrerday. Now it is almost 24h ago and the decryption still is running.
I am not sure if the device is really still decrypting or if the device is having problems.
Has anyone experience how long the decryption takes to finish? I would like to restart the device but I do not want to lose any data...
Can anyone help?
Greetings,
Jan

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Hi there,
I own a Samsung Galaxy S6 32GB and had to turn on the device encryption due to security policies of the company I work for to get access to my MS Exchange mails.
After turning on the encryption I had the feeling that the battery life got worse.
To prove if this is right or wrong I started the decryption yestrerday. Now it is almost 24h ago and the decryption still is running.
I am not sure if the device is really still decrypting or if the device is having problems.
Has anyone experience how long the decryption takes to finish? I would like to restart the device but I do not want to lose any data...
Can anyone help?
Greetings,
Jan
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Of its been decrypting for 24 hours is stuck and you have to reset it. This will make you factories reset, so you will lose your data.

loneclone said:
Hi there,
I own a Samsung Galaxy S6 32GB and had to turn on the device encryption due to security policies of the company I work for to get access to my MS Exchange mails.
After turning on the encryption I had the feeling that the battery life got worse.
To prove if this is right or wrong I started the decryption yestrerday. Now it is almost 24h ago and the decryption still is running.
I am not sure if the device is really still decrypting or if the device is having problems.
Has anyone experience how long the decryption takes to finish? I would like to restart the device but I do not want to lose any data...
Can anyone help?
Greetings,
Jan
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I had a similar problem where my device was not getting to decryption, but getting stuck on the initial "Decrypting" screen.
I solved it by changing my screen lock method to password (i was using fingerprint) and then running the decryption option. This made the difference and the device decrypted on my next attempt.

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loneclone said:
Hi there,
I own a Samsung Galaxy S6 32GB and had to turn on the device encryption due to security policies of the company I work for to get access to my MS Exchange mails.
After turning on the encryption I had the feeling that the battery life got worse.
To prove if this is right or wrong I started the decryption yestrerday. Now it is almost 24h ago and the decryption still is running.
I am not sure if the device is really still decrypting or if the device is having problems.
Has anyone experience how long the decryption takes to finish? I would like to restart the device but I do not want to lose any data...
Can anyone help?
Greetings,
Jan
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hi body i had same experience , it is like stop its encryption processing , so i couldn't wait any more , about 10 hrs passed and nothing happen i restart it by holding power+volume+home button then asked me to refactor it and all data gone , i encrypt it after refactor took 10-15 min to complete processing and show processing percentage in compare to before it shows nothing i thing one of the big problem with galaxy s6 that has no external memory card , lost all my data ,

Anyone notices decreased performance when using the broser?

Free Memory in Marshmallow

Hi guys i have just sideloaded OTA to my nexus 9. It seems to consume quite a lot of memory. when i first booted it was using 1.7-1.8gb.
I closed all the apps by swiping on the task switcher and got to 1.5gb as below
Could anyone who have been recently clean flashed tell me how much memory their device is using?
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That seems to be the norm based on my experience, even back on the previews.
I don't think there's much we can do. I uninstalled Facebook as it was the main culprit, but other apps just picked up the slack.
Google was dead wrong not giving this device 3 GB for the price we paid.

Same here
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Android OS seems to use a lot more than on nexus 5!
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Really, really disappointed from day 1, worst battery life, insufficient ram, laggy here and there, memory leaks and redraws, black smudges on white screen while scrolling, this is my second replacement, and Android 6.0 which I had I hopes for fixing the nexus 9 is even worse, I just moved back to lollipop the new build lmy48t.
I'm selling my nexus 9, I love nexus and their products, I own a nexus 5 and nexus 7, they both get more battery than the nexus 9, they are faster than the nexus 9, nor have I had a bad experiences with them, they both have 2gb ram and can open crazy tons of apps without redraws or any lock ups, $610 AU dollars in the trash, buying either a new nexus 7 2013 or a Samsung tab s2. Don't say oh factory reset, bro I've tried all ROMs, ive done 1000s of factory resets and this crap ain't working with me, the only thing the nexus 9 hasn't let me down is gaming that's IT!!!, BESIDES ITS A BLOODY HEATER, 80 DEGRESS Celsius, I'll probably use this as a heater in winter.

You guys do know that's average use
Also even closing all the apps it will stay high because it's average over time
To get to the real one.
Go to developer options
Then to running services

HasnaCuz said:
Really, really disappointed from day 1, worst battery life, insufficient ram, laggy here and there, memory leaks and redraws, black smudges on white screen while scrolling, this is my second replacement, and Android 6.0 which I had I hopes for fixing the nexus 9 is even worse, I just moved back to lollipop the new build lmy48t.
I'm selling my nexus 9, I love nexus and their products, I own a nexus 5 and nexus 7, they both get more battery than the nexus 9, they are faster than the nexus 9, nor have I had a bad experiences with them, they both have 2gb ram and can open crazy tons of apps without redraws or any lock ups, $610 AU dollars in the trash, buying either a new nexus 7 2013 or a Samsung tab s2. Don't say oh factory reset, bro I've tried all ROMs, ive done 1000s of factory resets and this crap ain't working with me, the only thing the nexus 9 hasn't let me down is gaming that's IT!!!, BESIDES ITS A BLOODY HEATER, 80 DEGRESS Celsius, I'll probably use this as a heater in winter.
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ok, you said this already on a thread you started!! if it was from day 1, why didn't you return it!

Used memory is a GOOD thing as long as it is releasing it when a new app requests it. Why have RAM sitting around unused when it can be used for helping the OS/apps run faster?

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Used memory is a GOOD thing as long as it is releasing it when a new app requests it. Why have RAM sitting around unused when it can be used for helping the OS/apps run faster?
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The ram usage is for a base system, the absolute minimum for the Google software stack to run. There is basically no more ram left for any other applications without paging out essential processes. Hence the home screen redraws, background media being killed, redraws on tab switching in chrome, lag on application start up. 2gb is simply not enough for a 64bit android environment.

I have 1.3GB Used, 21 in memory in the last 3hrs. No problems so far. I also have HW rendering turned on not software, that may help some too.

Here is another data point. Been running 6 for about 5 days, no problems at all. Bone stock, unrooted/unlocked.

Mine too guys. Clean installation and always 1.5-1.6 ram used in idle. Hopefully in the future this will change.

Best advice I can give... Use Fire-Ice kernel.
Use zram at about 200mb. And activate KSM.
KSM will save you at least 300mb (it did for me), while zram will make sure that you still have a bit of extra RAM for ram intensive apps, like chrome.
Update:
I'm currently sitting at 1.3GB and I have not closed any of my extra applications.
Between Android OS, System UI, Android System and Launcher3 I'm using 1026MB.
This is not that bad
If you have background apps which are consuming a lot of memory even though you're not using them.
Use greenify to keep them closed, this will keep memory free for apps you actually use.
This managed to keep me afloat when it was still on Lollipop with its damned memory leaks. Im pretty sure it can handle MM.

device slows to a crawl......to the point i can't even unlock the device without waiting 10-15 seconds for it to respond. Marshmallow on Nexus 9 is not good....

rogerchew said:
device slows to a crawl......to the point i can't even unlock the device without waiting 10-15 seconds for it to respond. Marshmallow on Nexus 9 is not good....
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I'm on marshmallow and my N9 is faster than when it was on lollipop. Battery life is better.
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rogerchew said:
device slows to a crawl......to the point i can't even unlock the device without waiting 10-15 seconds for it to respond. Marshmallow on Nexus 9 is not good....
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Do a factory data resrt. That should help quite a bit.
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Does nobody think that the differing experiences are not due to hardware/Marshmallow but to errors in the coding of apps used? Google has extensive documentation on app coding and memory performance diagnostics - start here http://developer.android.com/training/articles/memory.html

Mine is around 1.6GB running on stock Marshmallow.
Grinds to a halt at times, so frustrating!

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Mine is around 1.6GB running on stock Marshmallow.
Grinds to a halt at times, so frustrating!
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Read my previous post. It will help you quite a lot.
For MM most people are recommending to use a custom ROM and Kernel.

It's the same on mine. Everything works great except multitasking. It's impossible to multitask like on phones (or video reviews of Nexus 9!).
The worst is Chrome - only one tab can stay loaded, if I have two or three or more it has to reload them every time I switch a tab.
- Yesterday I clered cache and data - it works better now (usually Google's apps like gmail and drive stay loaded - Chrome still has the same problems).
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